>> alisyn: thank you. >> brian was great, he was great. >> alisyn: thanks. >> you're so welcome. >> steve: see you tomorrow. bill: that's an epic shot, isn't it? save that one. good morning, everybody. fox news alert. fireworks over obamacare because the price tag is going higher. some leading republicans pushing a new effort to defund the law entirely as we get more bad news how much it will cost all of us. good morning i'm bill hemmer. welcome to "america's newsroom." heather is in for martha. >> i'm heather childers. nice to be here for martha maccallum. republicans are making a new push to kill the controversial law by voting against any new money to fund. senator ted cruz is saying now is the time to take a stand. >> we've got to win the argument. look, this becomes an epic battle. i don't think for a second it is

an easy fight. if we don't fight it here, we never will. the alternative is surrendering and obamacare isn't working. it is failing. it is hurting jobs. it is hurting the economy. it is hurting people. it is hurting the 40-hour work week. there is bipartisan agreement this isn't working f we can't fight it now, shaun, i don't think we ever can. bill: delay the in employer mandate will cost the government $12 billion in missed revenue from expected penalties. stuart varney, host of "varney & company," fox business network. good morning, sir. real money. $12 billion increase. why is that happening? >> because next year employers will not be fined if they do not offer health insurance for the employees. if they had been fined the government would take in $100 million a month. they're not going to be fined. so the government does not take in $100 million a month. that is a great deal of money.

we didn't know anything about this. we couldn't read the bill before it was passed. by the way, individuals will be paying those kind of fines next year. bill: so cbo also says in this report a million americans will lose their employer coverage. and about half of them they believe will go to the exchanges or to medicaid as a result of this policy. >> yeah. bill: what happens, you like your coverage, you keep your coverage? >> i've not heard the president repeat that promise in recent years. and it is certainly not going to happen. if you liked your coverage four years ago, if you wanted to keep your coverage four years ago, your hopes have been dashed. you probably will not be able to do it. costs are going up. the level of coverage is going down. bill: meantime you've got a push in the senate. some of these republicans are trying to defund obamacare in the fall. we'll see whether or not they get traction even within their own party in fact. mike lee coming up a bit later today shoe sure. bill: we just received a snapshot of the economy.

is this a good number or bad number when it comes to gross domestic product, stuart. >> frankly bill, it is a rotten number. you see on your screens the rate of growth in the american economy in march through june period, 1.7%. that is not good. the big news they revised downward for the rate of growth from the january through march period, only 1.1%. that is a very, very weak rate of growth. four years after the end of the recession we should be growing, 4, 5, 6%. we're not. bill: it is brussels, brother. see you at 9:20, fbn. stuart varney. >> very good. bill: talk to you soon. heather. >> bill, meanwhile a look of united front from the republican party on defunding obamacare baffling conservative radio show host rush limbaugh. rush went "on the record" with greta last night. >> i always thought as republicans we oppose democrats. we wanted to beat them. i don't see that. i don't see any pushback against

anything obama wants to do. the pushback is against the tea party. the push back is against conservatives. it's, it's a stunning thing. the republican party has decided that capitulation with the democrats seems to be the ongoing strategy. >> so here's the question, why isn't there more support to defund obamacare? we will have much more on that. coming up when we talk congresswoman michele bachmann and senator mike lee. that's coming up a little later in the show. bill: about four minutes past the hour now. embattle the new york city mayor, the candidate, anyway, anthony weiner releasing a defiant new video saying he simply will not quit this race. listen. >> i know that there are newspaper editors and other politicians that say, boy, wish that guy weiner would quit. you don't know new york. certainly don't know me. quit isn't the way we roll in new york city. we fight through tough things.

we're a tough city. there are people all around new york city who get up 249 morning with a pretty tough day ahead of them and they don't quit. bill: that is not nearly all that happened on the story yesterday. julie banderas on the story in new york. julie, good morning to you. at some point he said he would stop talk about the sexting scandal and focus on the campaign. that is not working out because these questions follow him as they should. >> i don't think they will stop. where should i start? let's say it has been another bad start for the week for weiner. another public relations nightmare for his embattled campaign. first his campaign manager quits, a drop in the polls and this. barbara morgan, campaign communications director called a former worker a bleeping slut bag, and other terms. said most of weiner's staff were inexperienced or only interested in weiner's wife's connection to

hillary clinton. morgan reportedly said, quote, i'm dealing with like, stupid bleeping interns who make it on to the cover of "the daily news" even though signed non-disclosure agreements and oar they proceeded to trash me. in a statement morgan later apologized saying in a moment of frustration i used inappropriate language and what i thought was an off the record conversation. it was wrong and i am very sorry which is what i said tonight when i called and e-mailed olivia to apologize. talking points editor memo writes on twitter the interview was on the record. you have two sides. bill: unbelievably graphic language. >> i had to leave out most of that. bill: you're right, not even suitable for cable even late night. >> no. bill: weiner had a words for group of voters what did he say last night. >> he was on the campaign trail doing due diligence damage control at a community center in the bronx. asked why people should trust him after obviously become

apparent and public he continued sexting even after a sexting scandal forced him to give up seat in congress two years ago, in true weiner style he refused to quit. >> i did it i was wrong. that was wrong. and people have every right in the world to say that it disqualifies me. but i'm not going to quit based on that. >> reporter: unlike quitting congress, weiner's campaign is proceeding full steam ahead that is if his staff doesn't do him in first. weiner's wife is taking extended vacation from the day job working with hillary. bill: that is a shocker. he says that is not the way new yorkers roll. we'll find out whether new yorkers roll him out of this campaign. thank you, julie banderas, from our newsroom in new york. >> reporter: sure. jamie: >> we're just moments away from the start of the sentencing phase of the court-martial. of sentencing of former private bradley manning after a military

judge found manning guilty of 20 offenses, facing 136 years in prison for charges including espionage, theft, computer fraud but not the most serious charge of aiding the enemy. peter doocy is love for us in washington with more on this. so, peter, how long until we know bradley manning's sentence? >> reporter: heather, it will probably take a few weeks. there is going to be more evidence and witness testimony as part of this sentencing phase and some of it will likely be new because during the trial the judge, army colonel denise lynn, didn't let either side talk about how harmful or harmless private first class manning's leaks actually were to american national security and american troops deployed in war zones but all of that is fair game in this sentencing phase. so are arguments about manning's motives and also possible that the 25-year-old manning could testify on his own behalf. he chose not to testify during the trial but there's a possibility he could still take the stand. when all this is done, then

comes the automatic appeal. >> if the sentence involves either one year or more of confinement, or he's discharged, or both, then it automatically goes to the army corps of criminal appeals which i think is very likely here and then it would go to the court of appeals for the armed forces which is essentially the supreme court for the military. then ultimately it could go to u.s. supreme court. there are three possible levels of appeal here. >> reporter: in order to prove that private first class manning aided the enemy prosecutors were tasked by the judge to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that manning had reason to believe the files he leaked would help america's enemies and the judge acquitted manning on that charge but he was still guilty on 20 of 22 counts in all. which adds up to a possible 136 years in prison. heather. >> peter, what is wickly leaks saying about the conviction?

>> reporter: they're not happy about those convictions. the official wikileaks twitter account blasted out a message to almost two million followers yesterday that says, manning faces 136 years on charges he has been convicted of today. dangerous national security extremism from the obama administration. we saw him and heard reaction from the obama administration or the lawyers who argued either side of this case. heather? >> peter doocy live for us from washington. bill: peter watches that from washington. we'll watch it from fort meade coming up in 20 minutes. the hearing begins at 9:30. >> we'll debate it a little bit later. bill: that is coming up this morning. also coming up the president says he has a new grand bargain to offer republicans but is it really so grand after all? reaction from karl rove minutes away. >> plus the irs stonewalling congress on the investigation into targettings of conservative groups. why a top republican says the agency isn't coming clean. bill: also a daring prison

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so -- bill: that is on the road in chattanooga yesterday. president obama back at it again making a rare appearance. today on the hill to sell his so-called grand bargain. cut in corporate taxes and return for more spending that he argues will create more jobs. here is mitch mcconnell reacting to that idea. >> it is just a further left version of a widely-panned plan he already proposed two years ago. this time with extra goodies for tax-and-spend liberals. bill: republicans already calling this a nonstarter. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, you just heard him on the florida. karl rove is with me out of austin, texas. good morning to you. i'm hear a lot about the right, been there, done that, for get bit. >> yeah. look, this is an old proposal and mitch mcconnell was right, dressed up with some new ribbons and bows designed to appeal to liberals, not to conservatives. essentially the president said let's lower the corporate tax rate which is 35%, highest of

any major industrialized country in the world, let's lower to 28% for some companies and 25% for manufacturing and come up with a way to have, encourage u.s. companies with profits of their subsidiaries abroad, paid the tax in germany, paid the tax in england but kept the profit there is and don't want to bring it home to pay a second tax of 35%, find them away to pay a lesser rate and bring it home. the problem is this, bill, in april the president made this proposal in his budget and it was revenue neutral. last week harry reid said we don't need revenue neutral, we need one trillion dollars in tax this is not about tax reform. and about tax cuts. it is about tax increases and there's a reason for that. bill: all right, let's get to that then. what's at work here? you have a whiteboard. explain how you see it. >> what is at work here is that in 2011 there was a budget agreement and it set amounts for

discretionary spending by year. this year's budget cap for discretionary spend something two, excuse me, $967 billion. the president obama and the senate democrats want to spend in the coming fiscal year that starts october 1, $1,058,000,000,000. that is above the cap that the president agreed to in the 2011 budget agreement. the president wants a trillion dollars roughly in new tax revenues in the next 10 years in order to pay for $91 billion this year and making that into the cake, putting in baseline of the budget and putting in the next decade. he will say to republicans i will say tax reform but i really mean tax increase. rather than applying that to the debt i want you to give me more spending. there is not anything in there that a single republican will like. bill: in the house they will not go for that. >> a lot of democrats will not

go for that. look you have a bunch of democrats up in the senate next year in conservative states that will not like going home, yeah, i voighted to raise taxes and incidentally spend money on new government spending. there is a reason why they're concerned about this. this year, in this fiscal year, the amount of money that the federal government is spend something equal to 22.7% of the economy. that is to say, 22.7 cents out of every dollar of economic activity in the country is being taken and spent by the federal government. that is higher than all but six of the last 68 years since world war ii of those six years and four of them occurred while president obama is in office. one was in 1946 after world war ii, bringing troops home, demobilizing from world war ii. one was during the reagan years when he was beefing up the military. but of the six years which the federal government has been taking 22.7% of more of the economy, four of the six are on

president obama's watch. and he wants to keep that level high. bill: that is government with a capital g but he is also settings up an argument for this fall where there will be big battles over the debt ceiling and the budget et cetera. is now the time he lays groundwork for an argument to come in sent? >> yeah, absolutely. this is a setup. in fact a setup for the fall battles. there are two battles, you're right. one is the budget battle, how much will the federal government spend starting october 1 and second one is raising the debt ceiling. i'm devoting my column tomorrow in the "wall street journal" exactly about that. president says i'm pivoting to the economy this is all about the two budget battles up. the president tried to lay the predicate i need more revenue and more spending. the way to get the economy going is to spend more money. we've been doing that since 2009. the government is taking a larger share of the economy than it has historically done and the recovery is anemic. the job creation, we aren't back to the level that we were of people being employed, the number of people employed in

america that we were in december of 2007 and won't be for a year. bill: republicans say look, you can't even go with corporate tax reform unless you do individual tax reform as well. and they argue that the whole pitch yesterday, they heard bit through reporters and through the media. >> sure. bill: there was no contact between the white house and republican leadership on the hill. karl, thank you. go ahead. >> you bet. bill: last comment. make your point. >> the president's going to capitol hill today and only meeting with democrats. this shows how unserious the proposal is. bill: thank you, karl. enjoy austin. almost august. >> you bet. bill: see you soon. heather. heather: still to come, sleeping on the job and letting their friends and family slide through security. just another day with the tsa. the shocking allegations in a new government report. that is coming up next. bill: also the irs is underfire. why one top republican says that the tax agency is now stonewalling congress. we'll explain. the great outdoors...

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bill: got some stunning numbers on the cost of maintaining the prison at gitmo and ammunition for those that want to close gitmo. according to a group of congressional democrats the total cost of operating it will top five billion by the end of next year. so far officials say they have spent about 450 million this year, 2013. they're estimated $2.7 million for the prison. heather: a brick wall from the irs. house oversight committee chairman darrell issa is saying that the agency is stonewalling the investigation into the targeting of conservative groups. in a recent letter to acting commissioner danny werfel, issa wrote this, this is a quote, the actions of the irs under your leadership have made clear to

the committee that the agency has no intention of complying completely or promptly with the committee's oversight efforts. david drucker is senior correspondent for the "washington examiner." he joins us now. thank you for joining us. >> good to be here, heather. heather: so is the irs stonewalling? >> well i think part of this is the usual friction you have between a legislative branch and the executive branch particularly when the parties are different and you have one side trying to get information and the other side is sort of protective of its turf but i think part of this could be that the administration changed its tact on the irs situation. in the beginning the president was outraged and the argument was that clearly something wrong happened. it shouldn't have happened but it wasn't political and there was no political motivation behind it and now what you're hearing from both the president and his aides are, this is a phony scandal that doesn't exist and what you've heard from

democrats on the hill is a transition from outrage, this shouldn't have happened, we hope it is not political to, it wasn't political at all. we know it's not political. progressive groups were also targeted. this as treasury secretary lew said on "fox news sunday" over the weekend, this was an equal opportunity problem. so i think it is part and parcel of where the administration has gone with this in an effort to see this thing go away. to a degree it helps instead of argument we know something happened it is political, one is saying nothing happened and the other side is saying it did. heather: hoping if they say phony scandal enough, people will believe it. the bottom line, the agency they have turned over 12,000 pages so far out of roughly 64 million pages that it deemed, potentially relevant to the investigation. so how do you explain that?

>> well i explain it that the irs doesn't want to help house republicans, who have subpoena power, senate republicans don't, house republicans do, they don't want to help them sort of conflate this in the media and, potentially reveal problems or, or present a picture that there might have been problems, and one of the ways that you stop the opposition from doing that to you is not giving them the documents they want that might show that bad things happened. or might give them an opportunity to suggest that bad things happened even if they didn't. we've seen this before with other administrations and other congresses and so politically it really makes sense because right now the public is not up in arms demanding as a whole that the administration release all of these documents. people are focused on other things. it is the middle of the summer. jobs and the economy are still foremost in people's minds,. even though there was outrage the heat on this has diminished.

there is no reason for the administration and irs to feed into what house republicans want. heather: there is new information coming out though, that the irs even after grantings tax except status, at least three groups, including the billy graham evangelist tick association, they continued to take a closer look at after the fact. maybe that will develop into something as well. thank you for joining us. we appreciate your insight. >> thanks a lot, heather. bill: there is a major hearing underway looking at the nsa program spying on your phone calls. there is breaking news on the story. we'll bring that to you after the break so don't leave. heather: plus we're awaiting the sentencing phase of the bradley manning court-martial as outrage grows over the verdict. we'll have those details.

bill: we've got a fox news alert now. talking about this right best break now. director of national intelligence james clapper just authorizing the release of documents all related to the nsa's controversial surveillance program. this comes as a hearing is underway, you're looking at it live now, how to improve your privacy while keeping the country safe. steve centanni is live in washington. what was just put out, steve? >> reporter: the director of the national intelligence, james clapper a spokesman put out a press release saying that documents related to the surveillance program are being made public as an effort to provide more transparency about exactly what's happening. what kind of telephone records,

what kind of internet records are being intercepted and how they're being used. that is why there is a hearing underway on capitol hill right now. there is a lot of suspicion how it is being collected and how it is being used and these members of congress, in both the house and the senate, and in the general public as well, want to know more about the program as chuck grassley said just a little while ago. this would increase the public trust of the program and reduce the suspicion. so we'll find out exactly what documents are being released by the director of national intelligence. but this could go a long way toward defusing this controversy. bill: a lost politics involved in this too, steve. what is the political significance from this hearing? >> it shows there is growing momentum on both sides of the aisle to rein in the program, the nsa spying. it all stems of course from edward snowden and his release of the secret surveillance, the program about gathering telephone and internet records for almost every american. at first there was very little appetite for curtailing the

program but when the house was only able to block reform measure by just a handful of votes last week, surveillance opponents were given new encouragement. today's hearing chaired by senator chuck, sorry by senator patrick leahy, sponsoring a bill to make the surveillance more public. listen. >> i think the patience of the american people is beginning to wear thin but what has to be more concern is democracy is the trust of the american people is wearing thin. just because we have the ability to collect huge amounts of data does not mean we should be doing so. >> reporter: the top republican on the panel, senate judiciary committee chairman chuck grassley says the surveillance program has saved lives and i thinks there needs to be greater transparency and release of the dni of more documents that could help matters, bill. bill: when there are more headlines come back. steve centanni watching that in washington. heather: the sentencing hearing just getting underwray for

former army private bradley manning after a military judge found him guilty of most of the charges against him except the most serious charge. he was found not guilty of aiding the enemy. cully stimson, former secretary of defense tore detainees and legal fellow with the heritage foundation and mike barrett, former intelligence officer for the office of the secretary of defense. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> thanks for having us. heather: why not guilty for aiding and abetting the enemy? i will start with you, cully. >> heather to, prove aiding the enemy under the statute the government had to prove one, knowingly provided intelligence to the enemy. the enemy is al qaeda an the taliban and two he did so knowingly. so there was a double burden. the judge had to be firmly convinced that was the case and clearly they didn't prove their case. one thing if he provided directly to al qaeda or taliban

and posted to one of their websites. imagine this, if he gave the same information to "washington post" and guardian, and published some of it would he be charged with aiding the enemy? i doubt it. so there was a failure of proof. heather: mike, can you compare wikileaks to "washington post" and "the guardian"? >> i think cully is right. we don't want a single judge making that determination on a single basis. wikileaks today, what is the website in five years and 10 person and single person making that kind of judgment about what is and is not a quote, unquote, legitimate news source. for the legal case this was the right outcome. from a practical standpoint we can understand bradley manning is a criminal and he did in fact, you know, aid and abet the enemy, not just al qaeda and the current enemies in afghanistan and other places for the war on terrorism but frankly some of our other issues like rising tensions with china and

diplomatic ties. >> so we are three years later, 700,000 leaked documents. speaking of wikileaks, cully, what do you think this decision means for them? >> well, i'm not sure what it means for them except that when you look at the charges in the manning case, that brought in federal charges, people in positions of power who have access to intelligence information who release it, those are going to be very likely the same charges or similar charges that snowden is going to be facing. and so, you look at the history of leaking. the leaker is usually the person, the one caught who gets prosecuted, not the leakee, the recipient. i think from reports i read, there is grand jury investigation against wikileaks. eastern district of west virginia's office is doing that. whether there is indictment sealed i don't know. they need to be careful. heather: mike, a lot of people are calling him a hero, saying he did the right thing and

others say he is a traitor. in your opinion which is he? >> he is clearly a traitor. he had special privileged access. he took an oath to defend the country. he had special access to secret information. he got disgruntled on his own would release it. to me the real heroes are those that that go to work both in uniform fighting to defend the nation and places like nsa and working to win the war on the intelligence front and living those lives in the shadows and being exposed to programs and things we can't talk about and living a certain type of a life-style because we have security clearances. i think those are real heroes. the people out there every day trying to secure the nation. not just some 23-year-old guy who decides on his own pretty naively, not understanding the big picture that he doesn't like something so he will release it all publicly. heather: that being said, facing 136 years in prison, cully, it has begun already, the sentencing phase. >> right.

heather: some say it will last through august. what do you think will happen? >> look as a military judge i can tell you i've, sometimes been in the position where i've seen all the evidence, the person's found guilty, okay, i think the sentence should be x. but then all of a sudden the prosecution puts on their aggravation evidence or they don't and the defense puts on mitigation evidence or they don't and turns out a way i don't expect. we haven't seen one sled of aggravation evidence and we certainly haven't seen mitigation evidence. this judge who is a friend and thoughtful, prudent lawyer, will be able to take into situation all the aggravating mitigating evidence to decide on appropriate sentence. the range is from no fun pushment to 136 years. so she has a wide range of options. heather: we'll see what happens. cully stimson, mike barrett, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, heather. bill: still to the entertainment world bidding a fond farewell to emmy winning actress eileen brennan, best known for the role as goldie hawn's commanding

officer in the 1908 mitt movie, "private benjamin." >> what? really, my -- >> i don't care. i don't care what the recruiter told you benjamin. i'm telling you there is no other army. bill: what a film. brennan's tv credits including recurring roles on 7th heaven and will and grace and 30 something. her family says she died after a battle with bladder cancer at 80 years young. had a full life. heather: i love that movie "private benjamin." might have to watch it again tonight. bill: great idea. 20 minutes before the hour. rush limbaugh going "on the record" with greta asking why republicans are not fighting harder to stop obamacare and more. >> they will dictate how you eat, where you eat and what kind of health care you get or don't get as a result. that's th it is control. the elimination of individual liberty and freedom. and there is no pushback on this i'm sitting here stunned.

bill: more on that and michele bachmann reacts live next. heather: and truth that even pro athletes are not always so light on their feet. when a fist pump get as little out of control. ♪

bill: rush limbaugh with some heavy criticism for some members of the republican party saying they're giving up and the fight over obamacare and giving in on all sorts of issues. listen. >> that's not a strategy. that's capitulation. that's not even pushing back against it. even if you don't have a chance to stop it, why not make a stand. tell people who you are as

republicans, as conservatives? you've never had, they have never had a greater chance to contrast who they are with liberal democrats and what's happening now and instead of doing that, the republican establishment seems to be going along with them. obamacare, immigration reform, amnesty, whatever it. bill: there is no disagreement, there is no pushback on it. bill: strong words with greta last night "on the record." republican congresswoman michele bachmann back with us. you remember the tea party caucus, et cetera, et cetera. what do you think of that? >> i'm the chair of the tea party caucus and i started the tea party caucus is the tea party allowed the republican party the gavel out of pell pell's hand into john boehner's hands. those ideas energized american people. the american people didn't want obamacare. that is why republicans won control of hoist in 2010. the american people are expecting to us act on that, which is they want us to defund

obamacare and they're against amnesty for illegal aliens. there are two lines in the sand that the democrats have right now. one is, full-on, put their arms around obamacare. our response should be we're not going to, we're going not going to fund it. because we have the power of the purse. number two on immigration, our line in the sand, should be border security first. get it done. when it comes to the democrats, their must-have is amnesty first, border security never. so we don't have any lines in the sand. we need to get some lines in the sand because then people know that we have a backbone. we have listened to them and we're fighting for them. bill: i don't hear a lot of disagreement with you based on what rush said? >> no, not at all. i totally agree with rush limbaugh. i think he is exactly right. i live that every day. bill: why not more pushback then? >> you do see push back among rank-and-file pub pus. that is what we're trying to do. we have disparate voices.

we need to have one voice. where you see the democrats have a line in the sand when it comes to amnesty and a line in the sand when it comes to obamacare. does anyone really know what the line in the sand is for republicans? i think it needs to be clearer. we need the line in the sand and it is defund obamacare. and we need the line in the sand which is, full-onboarder security first. get that done. then we talk about the next step. bill: we'll bring mike lee on, senator from utah next hour to address that very thing. he was on the floor of the senate yesterday talking about that issue. the rest of the interview rush limbaugh had with the greta van susteren last night he believes the obama strategy does associate himself with anything connected with washington and play the role off the outsider and is that what is going on and does that work? >> that will not work. he is is the consummate insider and all about building up bigger and bigger d.c. a month ago the democrats said

their plan would be to embrace obamacare. everyone hates obamacare. so he embracing a losing strategy. that is why this is wide open opportunity for republicans. embrace what works. and embrace what the american people wants. they have been waiting for us to do that and i think we can really make strides if we do. bill: do you think this is a president who runs away from governing or, does not attach his name or association in any way to the, what, democrats consider phony scandals in washington? >> well i actually -- bill: that way he doesn't have to hang his name on it. >> i don't think he is that tough to figure out honestly, bill. i think if everything he does is through the lens of politics. how will it impact him? this is what's so tragic. because as president of the united states, it shouldn't be about him. it should be about us. the american people. the country. but look at all the metrics. look at lack of jobs.

look at the lack of wage growth. look at the lack of benefit package increases. we're going down as a country. we're not going up. that shows failure on the part of the president unfortunately but tragically he has never made this about us. he has always made his presidency about him and politics. that doesn't resonate with the american people. that's again why the republicans have an absolute, wide open door for a positive message. i really believe we can win a lost elections and turn the country around, just embrace the position that the american people hold. bill: before we get to that though, you have really big battles in the fall. we'll see how republicans shape their strategy. >> that's good. we need that. it's an opportunity. bill: good to have you on with us. michele bachmann out of washington. heather. heather: don't go away. a brazen prison escape caught on camera. how this hardened criminal pulled it off and the latest on the manhunt and who authorities

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bill: been a tough sees sop for the florida marlins. seen simple celebrations are, difficult. miami pitcher chad qualls gets the strikeout. does the fist pump and down. got the strikeout and picked up the hit and roll against the new york mets. tough way to go about it. you can't erase this stuff. it's on video. it is recorded forever. heather: the announcer apparently said he is no tiger woods. that is because tiger woods doesn't go like this. he goes like think, has more balance and control as opposed to qualls. heather: got to do it the right

way. heather: caught on tape the daring prison escape of a hardened criminal and he is still on the loose. now the up mate making his escape through a small window. police give chase but this bad guy didn't do it all alone. reporter melissa schroeder from our fox affiliate in arkansas has more. >> reporter: this surveillance video from the booking area shows how derek estell put a elaborate escape plan into action. inmate william harding distracted employees. >> they had their back turned at that time. >> reporter: as estell jumped over a counter and through a sliding glass window. sheriff's deputy followed him through the window and front door of the detention center. nearby, tamara had the car waiting with the door open and deputies tried to stop the car but it didn't happen. this video taken by 91 news, shows the car.

they don't know where he is driving or where he is going but apparent deputies are not giving newspaper we're investigating several leads. >> heard about it on the radio. >> reporter: former inmate austin avery isn't sure how the escape could happen. >> i never seen any way for an escape unless the cops are not doing their job. >> reporter: it would be hard to pull off an escape because phone calls, jails visits are monitored and plan something challenginged unless -- >> i have known there are cell phones smuggled in. >> reporter: avery said it would be better estell to serve time because once he is caught and will spend more time i behind bars and less time what inmates call the free world. heather: estell should be considered armed and dangerous. if you have information about his whereabouts, please call the garland county sheriff's department. bill: all right. a big hearing on benghazi happening right now in fact. where lawmakers may finally get answers after months of delay. the u.s. commander who would

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bill: morning, everybody. brand new hour and a fox news alert. after months of delays a key military commander with unique insight into what happened on the night in benghazi is now brief briefing a house panel behind closed doors. what will he say many months later? welcome to a brand new hour. i'm bill hemmer in "america's newsroom." martha has vacation time. heather: i'm glad to be here. i'm heather childers. george bristol the commander of the northwest africa task force. bill: that means he would know

and what military options would be available to protect the consulate when it was attacked. congress was pushing to meet with him for months and was repeatedly denied by the pentagon what military officials say was a clerical error. steven hayes, fox news contributor. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: colonel george bristol, what authority did he have in north africa last year. >> members of congress want to question him on, what exactly his rolly was as events of that night unfolded. they had been trying to get in touch with him as you point out and have him testify for months. his was a name you heard early in this investigation. then he so the of disappeared for a while. there was renewed interest in him because of some things he was saying behind closed doors, suggesting to people that he might have insight as to what happened that we hadn't yet heard. bill: okay, now, he has said that immediately he thought it was terrorism but then he's also

suggested, that you know, sending a rescue team in there was not possible. you wonder just how much he will give up of that today. would you expect big headlines from this witness? >> i don't honestly. i tend to think that if he was going to say something explosive we likely would have heard it by now. i could be wrong about that but i think, you know, the line that he is offering about a possible rescue is consistent with things that you've heard from other folks with the administration. i think the real question is, will he be able to shed any additional light on why those things weren't sent. where the decision point was? who was the one who actually made those decisions? here we are now some 10 months after those attacks and we still don't have answers to those questions. bill: what's funky, is lindsey graham has been pushing for his testimony and the pentagon said he's retired. then they found out he was not retired but he was on his way

out. and they could not compel him to testify. seems a little funky, doesn't it? >> yeah, it's odd. this is the kind of thing if this kind of misunderstanding, if that's what it was had happened in the context of, an administration that seemed forthcoming that seems to be wanting to provide information to congress you would probably shrug it off, but this context where you have an administration has gone to great lengths to deny cooperation to congress, to note provide information, paperwork, e-mails, what have you, that have been requested, in some cases have been subpoenaed, it is odd when you have somebody who is, you know, they tell us was retired. it turns out he is not retired. the story kept changing. bill: we will see whether or not that is cleared up or not based on today's hearing. now cbs news apparently is saying that lindsey graham told their folks on the hill that they have very good lead on who is responsible for benghazi. 10 months later no one has been

held accountable. >> yes. bill: if there are good leads, if these reports are true that some of these suspects are sitting around in coffee shops in benghazi, why have we not taken action? what would explain that? >> that is a very good question. fox has been reporting for weeks we actually know the names of nearly a couple dozen of the people who participated in the attacks but we can't get access to them. from everything that i understand the situation on the ground is so unstable there that the fbi is basically reluctant to send people in to get these guys. one would think that you could find a way to stablize the situation, if it were made a priority from the top of the administration down. if people at the fbi and elsewhere were told, we want to get these guys, we want to hold them responsible, this is important to us. that is not happening apparently. bill: if, if. steve, thank you. steve hayes. we'll see what comes of this hearing today. thank you, sir, in washington. heather. heather: meanwhile the new leader of the fbi is under increasing pressure from congress to get to the bottom of

the benghazi terror attacks. fox news confirming eight republican lawmakers are writing a letter to james comey, demanding that the investigation be a priority. the congressman frustrated by the slow pace of the investigation 10 months later. comey was confirmed on monday, by the way to replace robert mueller at the helm of the fbi. bill: senator lindsey graham, we mentioned him, out of south carolina, one of the lawmakers who signed a letter to director comey. he was on earlier on fox and friend weighing in on the administration classification as benghazi, quote, a phony scandal. here is the senator. >> this is not a phony scandal. this is a pathetic effort to bring people to justice. if you got these folks you would find out how terrorist centric this attack was. it was never based on a video. maybe they're looking for the guy on the video and maybe that is why they can't find these folks. my feel something the people who killed our folks are roaming around in libya in the wide open

and wee not doing a damn thing about it. bill: that goes to our conversation with steve hayes. senator graham is frustrated that the fbi has yet to ininterview key people within the militant group believed to be responsible. heather: fox news alert for you now. awaiting a rare voice foyt president obama to capitol hill. the president meeting with democrats hyped closed doors to rally support for his latest economic push. senior white house correspondent wendell goler is live at the white house. so, wendell, what is the timing of the president's visit? >> reporter: lawmakers are headed home for their summer break on friday to meet with their constituents. the president wants democrats to promote his plans to reform the corporate tax coved and use the money that generates to rebuild roads and parts of country's infrastructure that will create jobs. he said it is an idea that historically has drown bipartisan support. >> i will try offering that something for serious people in

both parties should be able to support. a deal that simplifies the tax code for our businesses, and, creates good jobs with good wages for middle class folks who work at those businesses. >> reporter: the president speaking at an amazon.com facility in chattanooga, tennessee, yesterday. the tax changes he wants would be expected to produce a windfall in the first year and be revenue neutral. heather. heather: how are republicans reacting? we're under a time crunch here. >> reporter: not very enthusiastically. house speaker john boehner said the plan didn't sound much like a compromise. he called it president obama's position on taxes and president obama's position on spending. he said it leaves small businesses and american families behind. at the same time republicans in the senate said there's no doubt that the corporate tax code needs reform. >> we now have the highest rate in the developed world. we also have a non-competitive international system where almost all of our competitors have gone to a system that enables them to favor their

companies over ours and again this is why you see companies moving offshore. you see investment going offshore. you see movement of capital offshore. >> reporter: national federation of independent business says the president's plan doesn't really move the ball forward but big business groups are more supportive. heather? heather: wendell goler, live from washington for us. thank you. bill: we mentioned this a moment ago. president obama is heading to the hill in at mare of moments. that's a live look i believe on the hill or is that the white house? heather: it is a parking lot. i can tell that. bill: that's a fact. right on. i will meet with democrats to talk about the grand bargain but only democrats. so it makes you wonder what kind after grand bargain this is after all in the end? wendell was just talking about the president rolling up his sleeves. that's what the white house wants you to know and getting to work on all this but we'll see whether or not this is something that will fly in the end with republicans because apparently it ain't going much further. heather: we have the august break coming up. so we'll see. bill: got that. from the parking lot we move on,

heather. bipartisan deal to lower student loan interest rates expected to pass the house today. that billings rates to the financial markets. immediately most borrowers will save money but costs are expected to rise as the economy gets better. the cbo estimates the bill will cut the deficit by $715 million over a 10-year period. heather: coming up, new calls for the gop to defund the health care law at any cost. senator rubio, even comparing the overhaul to a marketing flop. >> what did coca-cola do when new coke began to flounder? they didn't say, we'll continue to make more of it. they backed away from it. they went back to the original formula. they learned from their mistake and they didn't double down. heather: coming up we'll speak to another senator, republican mike lee from utah, about the health care law and he says if you fund it, you're for it. bill: he is all-in on that. also new york mayoral candidate anthony weiner avoiding a few

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heather: welcome back. a car slamming into a day-care center in kansas city, pinning two children under the vehicle. a police say it happened when a suv rammed into a parked car, sending it crashing through the wall. there were 40 children inside at the time. three of the children were hurt but none of the injuries are said to be life-threatening. that is good news. the 80-year-old driver of the suv was also injured. no word on what may have caused that crash. bill: this morning there are new

questions in the anthony weiner scandal. when asked whether or not he is still texting and sexting women, strangers, people he has never met in person, "the daily news" reports this. weiner said, i mean, oh, yeah, all that stuff is behind me. you can quibble about, you know, beginnings, middles and end but it was basically a year ago. suggesting that is when he stopped. alan colmes, host alcan combs radio show and brad blakeman, former advisor to president george w. bush. gentlemen, i presume, good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. bill: i, i'm speechless. i don't know if he can win, brad, but it is quite apparent day after day no matter how deep the hole gets he is not quitting. >> no. and look, anthony weinerer is irrelevant. it is sad. nobody takes joy when somebody takes their life and nobody should take he joy when somebody commits political suicide. that is what we're seeing played

out in front of us. in anthony weiner cared about his family and city of new york, the way we roll in new york we fest up to weaknesses and get out of the race. bill: we'll see whether or not new yorkers roll him out of the campaign. alan, quickly weigh in. i have a number about stuff. >> i agree with brad, basically. look, voters have right to voight for who they want to vote. i understand weiner's position, for his own personal good would be best if he got out of the campaign. i feel terrible for his wife who sadly is smeared all over the media through no fault of her own. bill: people i thought were friend, people i trusted when i communicated with them. trusted friend. the guy was married. these people were strangers. for a while he was a member congress doing this, brad? >> look, there's no excuse for it. and the fact that he obviously has a severe mental problem is quite apparent i think to everybody. there is no credible democrat who believes he should stay in the race. he is hurting the party. most importantly as alan points out he is hurting his family.

that is really the tragedy here. >> people will forgive once, if you can convince people your mea culpa is sincere. then come back to the second time to the public, well-being okay, it is not what i told you the first time that is where the problem really is. bill: to brad's point, i don't think he cares. it's all-in, all about him. here we go, on camera. another one, weiner. >> quit isn't the way we roll in new york city. we fight through tough things. we are a tough city. someone wants to come out with something embarrassing about you in your private life you have to talk about that for a little while but it also remeaned me citizens when they come up to you and they want to talk to you a situation on their block or their child's school or something going on at their job site that is what the campaign is all about. i will never forget that. bill: many people suggest he doesn't belong in the mayor's office. he belongs in a doctor's office. >> he said at beginning a year ago, i got a couple of days of therapy. as if that will solve the

problem. he mows recently said i'm talking to people. he maybe is getting help. i hope for his sake he is. bill: you don't know whether or not he stopped activity. all the dates are kind of fudged a little bit, alan? i don't know it is relevant whether he stopped or not because i think he is obvious, he is not a player in this candidate's race at this point. bill: at this point. that could change though. you don't know what happens. i mean, you don't know how people will react to this. latest polling had him dropping to fourth place at about 16%. that it after he was flying high. brad his communications director apparently doesn't help either. intern went public with all this salacious material about the campaign. campaign -- communications director in a interview went off, in language entirely unsuitable for any television show. >> not only is weiner unfit to be a candidate but his staff, i read that there is not any part of article i can repeat on the air. people he is surrounding himself are as bad as candidate himself

which is prescription for disaster. this is real problem. he is sucking or again out of the air from other democrats that want to talk about issues in the primary. that is the sad point. we're not getting issues before the voters. they have to consider weighing their options too there are good candidates in the race. you have thompson.like very as you point out, we're not talking about the issues. we're -- bill: alan, does he stay in or does he drop out? >> i guess at some point he will drop out. bill: you do believe? brad? >> he is in it. this guy is a narcissist without equal. bill: i agree with that. brad thank you. alan, thanks to you as well. >> thank you. bill: we'll see what happens in the end. heather. heather: coming up the agency charged with keeping you safe when you fly apparently not doing a good job. disturbing new reports on the tsa. that is up next. bill: you're driving along, minding your own business and the earth comes crashing on top of you. where this happened and wait

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bill: this is one road trip you will never forget. watch here now. this car driving, suddenly swamped by a landslide. whoa. covered in mud and dirt. happened in china. remarkably everyone survived inside of that car. two men were driving. they got out. two others were rescued soon after. the mud keeps coming off that mountain. higher than normal rainfall caused widespread flooding and landslides like these in parts of china. heather: how do you even know what to do? all right, a possible turning point to tell you about in america's energy future. as many recent, large-scale solar projects go bust, william la jeunesse reporting live for us from a new solar array in los angeles.

william? >> reporter: well, heather, right now the battle is between small inner-city solar systems like you see here at occidental college and big ones in the desert. secondly, is it time for rate-payers who can't afford solar to stop subsidizing those who can? whether it is produced in the desert -- >> epa entered into a long term agreement to purchase all of the power that solan will produce. >> reporter: or on a rooftop. >> this is power whether it is needed and where it is needed. >> reporter: this is solar power generating business. >> we're over 300 application as month. >> reporter: and controversy. >> not every project or every contract that is being signed turns into a full-scale plant. >> reporter: in 200916 companies sought permits to build large solar plants in california. six then nine canceled or postponed their plans. by contrast, rooftop solar installations jumped 160% in each of the last two years. >> the good thing about local

solar is it is spread out. >> reporter: l.a. water and power manages america's largest rooftop program. demand is off the charts but non-solar customers help pay the price. >> get a 30% federal tax credit and the utility gives you extra incentive to help you pay to offset the cost of that system. >> reporter: those incentives mandated by regulators are prompting a backlash. in arizona the utility says rooftop solar costs other rate-payers $1,000 a year, an unfair subsidy. in hawaii lawmakers are trying to reform a similar subsidy, costing taxpayers millions. >> we want to support renewable energy use in hawaii, there is no doubt about it but not at the expense of all the taxpayers who are heavily subsidizing this one component. >> reporter: now this is a small part of the utility business the subsidies seem insignificant, heather. but now prices fallen, more people can afford the system, utilities say we can't afford this any longer.

that right now is the fight going on. back to you. heather: william la jeunesse is reporting for us, thank you. bill: 23 minutes past. a leading medical researcher pleading not guilty to poisoning his wife. what we're learning about the prosecution's case and something that was on the doctor's credit card record. heather: a look closely. is a man flying side by side with a boeing b-17. jet man joins us live straight ahead. bill: cool guy too. ♪

bill: we are finding this out about america's air force. the tsa not doing their job very well. lawmakers holding a hearing to find out why. what does the report say? reporter: it looks like there were indications of folks sleeping on the job, stealing from suitcases and plucking family and friends from those

intrusive lines. according to the government accountability office it is on the rise. in the last three years there has been 26% increase in instances. they found more than 9000 cases of misconduct including dozens of stolen items from laptops to ipad. hundreds of ethical violations and almost 2000 cases were considered dangerous security threats. bill: what is next for the tsa? >> the agency has responded to the report, a total of four recommendations including established processes to conduct reviews of wrongdoing. four recommendations to ensure the agency establishes a process to verify tsa staff and airlines are in compliance and working to implement these recommendations.

two subcommittees are holding a hearing underway now. the gal found inconsistent punishment to about 50% of the cases in 2012, so for example those workers sleeping on the job got a letter. we hope to hear how the tsa plans to handle employees caught in the act in the future. bill: thank you. martha: a prominent medical researcher pleading not guilty to killing his wife. accused of poisoning his wife with a lethal dose of cyanide. now we're learning more of what police have on the doctor. but is it enough to make the case? a former prosecutor and trial attorney, and keith sullivan and defense attorney.

thank you for joining us. i want to start with you. what evidence do they have against them? >> they have motive, access and opportunity. the doctor had purchased this poison found in his dead wife's body just days before she died. we have access because we know he was only within his control locked up in a safe at his office. we know he had an opportunity to do this because the text messages between the husband and the wife revealed she thought she was taking something that would help her get pregnant so we have a very strong circumstantial case against the doctor for killing his wife. martha: in terms of defending him as a defense attorney, how would you handle this case? >> let me answer that question, there is no evidence, they have

no direct evidence linking him to the death. he has told his lawyers lawyers have told the detectives purchased cyanide with his wife as a physician, she could have accidentally used it, there is no evidence whatsoever in this case. i look at three lights, no evidence cases, circumstantial evidence cases and direct evidence cases. at best this is a circumstantial evidence case. with each and every element of the crime has to be met without a reasonable doubt. under the law we have to see these elements can be met. they should not have made this arrest so soon. martha: you make a very good point. we cannot convict him in the press this early on. this is the beginning of the case, but his employer has said there is no legitimate purpose

for buying cyanide. >> i also wanted to ask you about a daughter in this case, possibly a witnessed what happened, i don't know what she saw what she did not see. how will that planned this case? >> there is a young six-year-old who has now lost her mother and her father's who prosecuted the death. this child is right now in the care of the grandparents by order of the court for the immediate future. the court will determine the long-term or permanent solution for the six-year-old. it is not uncommon in a situation like this the child does not return back to the father during this case. martha: about his allegation he was running from the law?

ratrifle for the tutelage of the visit his was pulled over in west virginia. >> he was driving back. i knew he had a lawyer. this is not a guy running, this is media hype creating a hype this was a national manhunt. they knew where this guy was. they confiscated his car, the confiscated his computers, they have found no direct evidence linking him to this case. martha: it is much easier to cross examine an eyewitness entry but circumstantial evidence like we have in this case. it will be very difficult for the defendant unless he has plausible explanation, which of course the law does not require that will be difficult for him in this case goes to trial to rebut the circumstantial evidence. >> the cyanide was found in her system so if he did not do it,

then went to figure out who did. >> she is a medical doctor, no doubt the doctor had it. he admits to purchasing it and for a future project. >> she thought she was going to take creatine and her husband believed that she was cheating on him. so there is your motive and the creatine and cyanide are identical. martha: thank you for joining us. bill: sounds like an interesting case. in the meantime, shocking allegations against a couple in san francisco. accused of stealing luggage from the baggage terminal at the airport in the chaotic days after the crash of asiana flight 214. meanwhile, luggage had been piling up in the terminal because of the crash causing delays and cancellations and routed flights.

the couple made off with several suitcases including one that contained $30,000 in closing. both face several felony charges. try and figure that one out. martha: the circumstances of the crash itself and then to have something happen, it is unfortunate. calls for the g.o.p. to defund the health care law, republican mike lee of utah saying if you fund it, you are for it. bill: a woman trapped upside down in her suv for 18 long hours. how in the world did she make it out alive? >> anybody would have done the same.

bill: if you are still in your 401(k), check it out, we're on triple digits coming off of economic numbers based on the

second quarter for 2013 and a bit of revision. some jobs in the private sector slightly better than many had expected that can explain why we are moving little bit. 15,628. some will make the argument we're going to 16,000 on the dow. martha: what do you think? bill: i don't know. in this case it is headed higher. you are okay to look now. 105 happening on wall street. martha: lucky to be alive, an 18-year-old counting her blessing today after this, and upside down car 18 hours after the accident. pennsylvania police say she crashed into a guide wire, landing her in this culture.

nobody heard or saw the crash. likely a neighbor going for a walk saw the car. >> i thought it was a dog at first. but then i noticed she tilted her hair back and i could see her face. martha: he says he hopes to meet the girl he saved. good for him. bill: republican lawmaker issuing a challenge to the colleagues as a new budget approaches. i vote to fund any part of obamacare is a vote in favor for obamacare. >> i would invite you to consider the possibility that what you are doing and thinking about funding it is not where you really want to go.

consider what might be said about this. defund it or own it. if you fund it, you are for it. bill: senator mike lee with me now. make your case, what were you trying to point out there? >> americans have long known this law will make health care unaffordable. we now know the laws going to be unfair because the president is selectively enforce this against individuals while giving corporations a break. it is not ready to be implemented, making health care more effective, recognizing these facts need to backup the recognition with a vote that says we will vote to fund government but not health care. tied to it in the sense regardless of what funding bill would look like, vote for something keeping the government functioning as long as there is no obamacare funding in it.

my point is we ought not to tie obama to find everything else in government. make sure obamacare is funded by the american people don't want obamacare. bill: as it stands now, how many votes would you get? >> 66 or 67 signatures on a letter with this commitment, we had 12 yesterday, yesterday morning, republican senator from idaho joined us. there are others who will eventually be there but haven't yet signed on. this is why we started this effort in july even though the children will not occur until september. bill: so you think in order to stop obamacare this is your last line of defense? that battle is over.

>> once it kicks and it is difficult to stop by getting new entitlement programs that will not go away. the time to do it is now. i'm encouraging people don't find it.com. to express their opinions be bill: you know you are long ways from getting the votes. he says he might need a 67 votes to get what you want. 67 votes is a long ways to go. democrats control the senate chamber. >> i happen to disagree with him on this. he is mistaken so just and 67 votes. we take 67 votes to override a presidential veto. we can fund the government without any kind of a veto override battle because we can agree to find everything else in government but leave obamacare funding out.

but in the present in position to tell him reckon people if he can't get everything he wants, he will not let government get anything. bill: the signature piece of legislation. it would be unrealistic of what we're asking was a full repeal, but i think it is realistic with republicans in both houses of congress to unanimously believe we should not be funding obamacare, we should not be implementing obamacare. it is reasonable i do not want obamacare. it is reasonable to suggest we should be willing to vote to fund everything else in government but we should not fund obamacare. bill: they are in lockstep with you on this, but others are not. some criticism is harsh. i've heard words like silly, dumb, dishonest. senator bob corker, it is a silly effort. what would you say?

>> those kind of statements are not helpful, those kind of statements are dismissive but they are nothing compared to what we're going to hear from the american people. when they discover this law goes into effect. and if we fund th imitation of s horrible law, those of us who are republicans and claime claie against obamacare who happen to vote to fund it will have a lot to pay, a lot to answer for with our constituents. bill: there is a study that suggests $12 billion more because the employer mandate has now been suspended for another year. a minimum of $12 billion added to the tab of the health care law. >> that is right. on top of an already escalating bill. a huge bill that keeps going up. twice as expensive as we were told it would be on the outset.

it is not fair, to make health care less affordable and we should not fund it. bill: we will see how you do on the vote tally going forward. thank you for your time, sir. >> thank you. >> john scott has a preview of what is happening. >> president obama hits the hill today meeting only with democrats is not likely to get much done a very divided capitol hill. republicans continue to hammer away at the president's agenda and hammer away at several scandals that continue to suck the political oxygen out of the air. also with us, we will take a close look at the devilish ways hackers are targeting you and me. what they are doing to try to protect all of us.

"happening now." heather: thank you, jon. a dream of many to fly like a bird now one man is making that in reality. is that bill hemmer? take into the sky and he is here next.

heather: a daring rescue of a teenager who fell at least

100 feet down a ravine while hiking in oregon. taking rescue crews three hours to reach him because it was so steep. friends say they had been hiking up the hillside and he just slipped. >> cap saying i was sorry. i tried saving him, i grabbed the jacket but the zipper unzipped and he rolled out of his jacket. i felt bad because he is one of my best friends and i was honestly feeling like he was not going to be conscious when i found him. heather: he was airlifted to the hospital and is expected to be okay. bill: you need to be at the movies to see something like this, but in oshkosh, wisconsin, all you had to do was look up and see jet man 6000 feet above the ground with thousands below to see him in action. by way of skype, meet the jet

man himself. originally out of switzerland, good morning to you. i want to know what in the world this feels like as you are flying around. >> it feels good to ge. normally have a big machine around you. i had just this little wing with my four engines and it pushed me in the air, completely free. i can state information with other planes. bill: do you feel weightless or geforce is on your body? what do you feel? >> it is almost weightless because the wing holds me in the air, so i'm just hanging in my harness.

i can pull with the move of my torso i can pull up to three geez. for example, when i'm doing a loop, i can pull up to three gs. bill: we were wondering how the world you practice something like this. when you watch in hd, but i guess her safety harness or your fallback plan is a parachute because you're wearing a parachute in case something goes wrong or when you want to land, is that correct? >> that is exactly right. i exit an airplane going freefall first looking for speed and as soon as i have speed, the air is becoming consistent around me, as the end of my fu

fuel, i cut the engine and open my parachute and come down on the ground. bill: that is amazing stuff. a 6-foot carbon fiber wing, you mentioned the four jet engines, 45-pound engines strapped on your back literally. a big airshow. like heaven for aviation folks we had do you ever worry about your safety, not coming back down the way you wanted? >> yes, i have some situations, but as a professional at plan b, i have a handle and anytime i

can come out of a situation, the wing has a rescue parachute. the level of safety is high, that is why i am still here. 18 years of work. bill: we were happy to see you, as your wife is as well. an american from north carolina. today in wisconsin. heather: can imagine the passenger on a plane, looking out and seeing that? coming up another scandal rocking the irs, today's new call for lawmakers to rein in the agency. what are you doing back there?

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