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apprehend dimaggio. this obsessed middle-aged man who went so far as to murder the teenager's mother, christina anderson and her younger brother ethan, and then burn their home near san diego and then dimaggio led local and state and federal officials on a far-flung hunt that spread from the mexican border to the no-return wilderness in idaho where on friday dimaggio's car was discovered after a rider on horseback reported a man and girl hiking through the rugged brush 40 miles east of the tiny town of cascade, idaho. once that rider realized that the pair he had seen hiking in the woods were these most wanted people. his calls to law enforcement ignited a massive response, and as hundreds of deputies and federal agents flooded the area, they ultimately found di image e owe's car stripped of a license plate and hidden in the brush. there had been fears that the

car was booby trapped, but it was not the case. and while the search spread through half a dozen states, it seems clear, folks that dimaggio planned on escaping to idaho or some stim lar rugged wilderness from the very beginning, buying camping equipment and other gear days in advance of his murders of the mothers and the 8-year-old boy and the torching of that home in southern california. joining me now on the phone, from cascade, idaho, is the reporter for the "a.i.d. idaho statesman "the main newspaper in the region, and tell us how it happened. >> well, the fbi said in a briefing that ended a few moments ago that fbi agents that were in either a helicopter or a plane spotted both james dimaggio and hannah anderson at 5:20 mountain time.

they didn't give us a lot of details, but they said that one of the fbi agents shot dimaggio, and killed him. they were able to rescue 16-year-old hannah anderson unharmed. >> so, john, tell me this, was there a gun fight or was the firing as far as we know just by the fbi sniper taking out the kidnapper? >> yeah, we don't e know any details like -- a question was asked whether there was a confrontation or whether they tried to, you know, get him to give himself up or not or whether they just shot him dead. so we don't have those details right now. >> tell me exactly where the takedown took place. how far from the tiny town of k cascade from which you are calling us right now. >> well, probably talking about 50 to 60 miles here. they told us that the shooting took place not far from the area

where the man from jim kocounty idaho spotted him on wednesday afternoon. that location is probably 68 miles east of the trailhead where he parked the car in and left it. and just a few miles west of moorhead lake. >> go ahead, john. sorry. i didn't mean to interrupt you. and almost what? >> well, yeah, they said that they didn't go very far. i was talking today to the fire chief that has been here for decades, and an outfitter that regularly flies into the area, and they said that even a fit person would have a hard time going more than about five miles a day. that is how rugged these conditions are in the frank c r church river of no return wilderness. >> john sowell, tell me this,

when the hiker or the horseback rider spot the pair hike, did it appear to him as if the man was dragging the 16-year-old or did she appear to be a willing participant in the flight through the wilderness as you described? >> yeah, it didn't appear that from his observations that she may have been, you know, looking like a hostage and stuff, but he didn't realize until he got back home that evening that there was a search out and that authorities were looking for these two, and he sought reports on tv and saw their photos and said that looks like the people i saw. he described their encounter, they exchanged pleasantries and he said he didn't have any fears or anything, but it seemed odd, but there was no explanation of what was going on. >> i didn't realize, john

sowell, "idaho states reporter" that joe dimaggio is dead and hannah anderson is released. i didn't realize they had spoken. >> well, they exchanged plez san tris and it was not like are you out here hiking or camping, but he reported that they did have camping gear with them. >> john sowell, thank you. we will check back with you as updates warrant. with me on the phone right now, eric robert campbell, and eric is 8-year-old ethan anderson's, the slain child's godfather. and so how are you responding right now? >> everything has been so distressful, and we finally have something to celebrate.

we have had faith that hannah would come home safe and been praying with friends and family and nationwide, and finally, it is just prayers not going to waste, and we got good news and people are so ecstatic. >> how did you get the news? how did you get the good news? >> i got the news, and i was with the family, eating a meal, and someone got a text saying something about hannah saying that is she all right or something along those lines and we checked on the tv and with the news broadcasts, and the slough of information, we determined that jim was dead and hannah was safe. at that time all of us bursted out in tears and just the most happiness that you can imagine. >> erik as godfather to ethan, i have heard dimaggio's crime in this regard described as a colossal betrayal.

is it not a fact that he was almost part and parcel of the family that he became uncle to this child that henatched? >> yes, he is very close. and -- >> and yet he could murder the 8-year-old and murder the woman who would, you know, effectively be his sister? >> exactly. the worst betrayal imaginable, and you could not imagine that someone who could befriend a family and be that close without any warning signs come to do something like this. it is just -- >> and what have the author thes told you? what killed young ethan? did he die in the flames? was it smoke or diddy maggio hand's on murder that child? >> i don't know the facts. >> and what are you now hearing in terms of hannah's well-being and her condition, erik? >> well, i'm here at the

grandparents' house. we are waiting for them to come back. we have a bunch of family here waiting for them. >> describe who is there, erik. tell us who is there in the home with you. >> oh, just aunts, aun uncles, friends of the family and different parts of the family. it is just a bunch of people that have the best interest of hannah and celebrating that she is alive and well. it is a joyous occasion after being at this house a couple of days ago feeling like we are just perpetually in limbo and not knowing what is going on. we had a good idea that the body of ethan when we first heard that a child's body was turned up in the fire, realistically, we did know that it was ethan, and we knew that tina was gone. so we had one shred of hope that

hannah, the third person would somehow come out of this miraculously, and that is what we have been putting the prayers and hopes for. we have not been able to mourn the other two, because we need to put the positive energy and efforts and prayers into bringing hannah home. >> erik, as you stay there with the family, we'd love to speak with whoever wants the talk with us. i have got the take a quick break now, but er ric, if -- but er ric, if you would spread the word, because ladies and gentlemen, we are bringing you the latest from southern california where the family originated and where this, this drama began to the wilderness in idaho and itened happ-- it ende happily where an agent took down this vile person after snatching this 16-year-old after murdering her mother and brother. the headline is that hannah is safe and dimaggio is e dead, and we shall return after this. ♪

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a fox news alert continuing with the stunning and very happy news that hannah anderson has been rescued. the 16-year-old snatched by james di mimage e owe, and he i dead. he is dead. there's how it was announced at the press conference. still loading. dominic natally joining us from the west coast bureau with reaction. dominic, give us the very latest. >> well, the very latest is of course that hannah has been found. the authorities here now deciding how the investigation moves forward. the fbi is certainly going to be continuing to do its investigation on the scene of where it happened and also in the area of particularly further investigation into the car. there is a team coming in from d.c. to salt lake city i understand at the moment where it is going to do a review of precisely how the tactical

procedure moved out. then it will move to san diego and be sensitive down there, and the san diego county sheriff's office dealing with it, but a huge sigh of relief here in california because there have been a huge outpouring of concern for her welfare after this dramatic week of a kidnapping and two terrible killings in san diego. so, as i said a huge relief from here. what the authorities intend to do next, as i was saying that san diego county has to look into what precisely happened. how they got into idaho and what particularly happened to the house. the 8-year-old ethan, his body was only formally identified late last night, and it took dna samples to confirm his identity. so no indication yet of how specifically he killed. his body was left charred for certain, and they will want to know what happens then, and that is where to a majority of the news flow will come from, a nd

how hannah is and she will be physically evaluated and of course, a psychological evaluation and perhaps days, geraldo. >> thank you, dominic. this is how it went down, and this is how it was announced. >> anna appeared to be safe and was rescued and, you know, reunited with her family in the near future. obviously, we would like mr. dimaggio to surrender and face justice in the court of law, but that is not the case. >> he got his justice. remember how it happened al ber alert igniting mobile devices throughout the state of california in the middle of the morning, and controversy surrounding the amber alert and people were annoyed that it woke them up and the rest of that, and look at how it ended, because of the amber alert, everybody was hip to fact that to getaway car and the nissan and what it looked like and everybody was eye's on and looking for it. and now that horseback rider who goes back to his house says, hey, i i saw those people and

calls 911 and the rest now is unfolding history as we speak to you this evening. joining me on the phone is the family friend of the andersons, angelina amaudi, and you spoke with hannah's dad and have you touched base with anybody? >> no, i haven't. >> tell me your own relief, angela. >> well, just when my daughter called me, i literally hit the brakes of the car and a um willp went into my throat and i started crying. >> did you know dimaggio? >> yes, i met him and i have had lunch with him at hannah's sweet 16 party, yes. >> did you think that he was freaky, that he had something in his own mind going on with a 16-year-old? >> no, i actually i didn't. if i did, brett and tina would have known firsthand. >> so this came as a utter surprise. describe how hannah, you know,

was she a normal 16-year-old in every regard? >> very. 100%. happy, and your typical 15 or 16-year-old. she had just turned 16, but she was a typical teenager. >> did she have a boyfriend? >> she had boy crushes. >> all right. so there was nothing as far as you know nothing between the two di m dimaggio -- did you think of him as part of the family, angelina amadi? >> as brett and tina's family, yes. i did not have that relationship with him to feel that way, but i knew it was brett and tina's family so to speak in so many words. >> do you believe that the man betrayed a sacred trust? >> 100%. >> well, as you contact the family, please let us know. jonathan gilliam is with me here in the studio and he is ceo of the united states continued service and former fbi agent and navy s.e.a.l., and thank you for

your help this evening. describe the team that took down the kidnappers and alleged murderer. >> well, it is a tactical team and the hostage team that was used and it was announced earlier that they were used. the hostage rescue team was also used in the boston bombing so it played out in a similar case where everything in law enfor enforcement from the amber alert -- >> hold on, hold on. we have hannah anderson's dad on the phone. dad, congratulations! my goodness we send you love and a big brasseau, and tell us how you are reacting right now? >> well, i will tell you, it is a great feeling that we are going to get my daughter home. i love these guys out there in law enforcement, because they did their job great, and props to them. it is just very exciting. i am still saddened for my son and wife, and mourning them, but it is a mixed emotion right now. >> now coming from the depths of despair and your daughter

missing and your wife and son dead, and describe how you got the news that your daughter survived? >> well, i almost collapsed. it was just, it -- it was tremendous. there was something, something good came out of such evil, it is unexplainable. >> now, what are your plans? have you heard from your daughter as of yet? >> i have not talked to my daughter. my plans are to get out there as soon as possible, and that is all being arranged and hopefully be with her as soon as a possible. and from there, just, you know, it is a healing stage, and you know, keep us all in your prayers, and i have no idea what she has been through. she's a strong girl, but this is very testing. >> and then in terms of the betrayal of this teen that snatched her? >> i really don't care to talk

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fox news alert, it is over. hannah anderson is safe, and james lee dimaggio the man accused of snatching her is shot dead by an fbi sniper. jonathan gilliam is in the studio with me as we get calls from the family and others throughout the west coast, and jonathan here in new york with me. now, you were saying that the team is the same team that took down the boston marathoner, or involved in the boston marathon

investigation and sounds like one shooter. what do you think? describe the scene in idaho as you perceive it? >> from what we know a helicopter out there and spotters in the helicopter, and snipers as well, but they weren't that far in the woods so maybe they were guiding a team in or maybe a shot from the hill, and they had the capabilities of doing both. >> they had the capability of taking him out or from the chopper, but you think that the shots came from the ground? >> i don't know, geraldo, but it is either one, because the sn e snipers are trained in the hee lows and the ground, both. >> and typically in an operation like this, the fbi comes in and they supersede local and state operatives? >> not really, what you will see here is a perfect example of how law enforcement from all levels. the amber alert and the initial law enforcement, and the individuals on the ground where it steps up to have fbi involved and they develop a task force and then in the case, the hostage rescue team came there, and this is a good example of when things get big how law enforcement comes tot and all of

the assets that the bureau has to play with come in, and they r are used in this case in a task force manner. >> and jonathan, the former fbi and navy s.e.a.l., and you are not surprised that dimaggio became part of the family? >> no, when you look at the pedophiles, they are the greatest con artists that there are, and child predators and they are a predator, and they go in to do whatever it takes to get into the family, and a lot of times, it is through the church or the family friends themselves and they actually become a part. it is not uncommon. >> he plotted this thing and buying the camping equipment and so forth? >> probably. a lot of times when they get to the point of agitated a enthings are are desperate, you will see violence. this is following a typical pattern of a child predator. >> and what is atypical is that the victim is successfully rescued. all right. jonathan stay with me, and guests from throughout the country when we come back. you can't go to school like this, c'mon. don't do it! no! (mom vo) you never know what life's gonna throw at you. if i gotta wear clothes, you gotta wear clothes.

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live from american headquarters a prayer vigil for the victims of friday's plane crash there, and four people were killed and at least two of thel children on the ground when a small plane from new jersey went down. authorities believed that it crashed after missing an approach to tweed new haven airport. authorities say that the pilot had survived a previous crash in 2009. authorities in mexico are on edge. a kingpin and others could be released in two weeks. along with drug running they

were in prison for torture and murder of u.s. law enforce ment officers in 2009. the u.s. department calls the release troubling. they say that his client was tried in the wrong court. i'm maryann rafraferty. now back to "geraldo at large." >> at the end of the lake, suspect james lee dimaggio was shot and killed by an fbi tactical agent assigned to an fbi headquarters unit. h hannah anderson was located with dimaggio. she appears well and rescue and will be transported to a hospital in idaho. >> this case brought to mind another murder/kidnapping that ended in idaho back in 2005 that we covered very extensively when a serial killer of multiple sex offender joseph edward duncan

snatched an 8-year-old snamed shasta and her brother, 9-year-old duncan after murdering the children's mother and brother and the mom's fiancee, and folks, you may remember how shasta was rescued after the perpetrator brought her out of the wilderness to have dinner at a local denny's restaurant. her brother had already been killed by duncan, and duncan by the way is now serving nine life sentences. craig interviewed shasta in october of last year. >> when she was just 8 years old, shasta groene and her 9-year-old brother dillon were the subject of a massive manhunt in 2005. >> i made it out okay and my brother didn't. i wish it didn't happen that way and i wish we could have both gotten out together. >> for the first time shasta, now 15, speaks in detail about

the ordeal to offer insight into the mind of a child sex predator. >> we were told from day one that our family was alive and that we they were going to be home when we came home, and then right before like we were told that we were doing be brought home, we were told that they weren't there anymore and so i think that my brother kind of gave up hope. >> after stalking the children for days convicted sex predator joseph edward duncan the third bludgeoned shasta's mother and 13-year-old brother slade, and mark mckenzie to death during the home invasion. >> i was trying the piece together what might be happening, because i did not understand what was going on. >> both children were repeatedly abused by duncan before he tortured and murdered 9-year-old dillon at a remote western montana camp site. that shasta survived is a miracle. >> i was scared that if i fought him that something bad would

happen to me or my brother. >> after losing most of his family to brutal murder and for a time being himself the object of suspicion, shasta's dad did not end there. he was later stricken with throat cancer and had the voice box removed. >> it is thanks to shasta that you got dillon back. >> yes. and it is thanks to her, and she if she had met the same fate i do not know where my children were. >> weeks after shasta's abduction, duncan was arrested in a courtelane restaurant when the waitress called the police, and shasta's testimony helped to convict him who is serving three life sentences while awaiting crime

crimes against children. >> you are incredibly brave for an 8-year-old to be able to remember all of the details enough so to put this guy behind bars forever. >> i liked putting him behind bars for good. and in a lot of ways that helps me know that i did change someone's life for the better. >> he is gone the jail for being a sexual predator and yet he was out on the streets. what are your thoughts of that? >> in a lot of ways, it makes me ainge richlt -- angry. i don't think that anybody who has that kind of background should ever be let out of prison. >> it is something that impacts you forever, isn't it? >> yes, definitely. people tell me to learn how the forgive and forget, and forgive but never forget, and he cannot run my life anymore than he has or take it, and tear it down

anymo anymore. >> yu must be very proud of your daughter, because she is incredible. >> i'm extremely proud of her. >> so shasta now is how old? >> 16 years old, the same age of hannah anderson and you look at the similarities in the woods of idaho that shasta was found after a violent abduction, watching her brother and mother killed before her. she says that it is not a day that goes by that she doesn't think about it, but she doesn't want it to define her. but just imagine how hannah 16 years old now all that she remembers in the drama and the trauma she is going to go through. >> and hannah has to get over the death of her 8-year-old brother just as shasta has to get over the 8-year-old brother. >> and the sexual abuse that she ok occurred is a horrible, horrible thing. >> but shasta is on the comeback trail. >> she is on the comeback trail and she wants to provide therapy

to people who are victims of sexual abuse, and use her experiences in a positive way now that she is out there, and it took a while before she came public and now she wants to use what happened to her, and her experiences in a positive way. >> she is the same age of hannah and maybe shasta can reach out the hannah and help to heal togeth together. >> yes. >> and jonathan, you know, the crimes against children, and i want to talk very briefly about the amber alert system, baud it was controversial, but wasn't it also instrumental in many ways and plus it engages the public in solving these crimes. >> right. absolutely ins truptal, and one of the things that the report brought up is that it really hits home is that this is real. these things are real. this is not just going to happen every now and then. these predators are out there and it is good for people to realize this, and so you get an amber alert at night and get woken up, this girl is alive because of that.

these situations are so real and so many of these people out there, that people need to take it seriously, and help each other out. we are all citizens and we need to realize that i can protect you and you can protect me. this is a perfect example from the ground-up in how things should work. >> well said. we have to watch each other's back. every parent out there should understand. i am sure does understand the significance of citizens involvement in helping to solve this crime. but or the that rider on horseback, we would never have known that the two were in the woods of idaho where they were. and now, you know, it has, you know, a measured happy ending at least the 16-year-old has been rescued. >> right. well, you know, we both have daughters, teenage girls and you have to be so aware of their surroundings. >> everybody is looking at them. >> i look at everyone up and down. >> they are children and 16 years old. >> i don't trust anybody. >> and think are looked at as adults. >> all right. jonathan, i want to thank you, and what we will do is that we

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spoke at a national convention for disabled veterans. the president's family begins time off after relentless pressure of al qaeda in southern yesmen and aimed at disrupting a threat on the arabian peninsula. a drone strike there the eighth in two weeks killed two more suspected al qaeda militants. the good news is that the al qaeda threat that forced us to close 19 of the embassies and consulates overseas never materialized, but the bad news is that it was serious enough for us to seem to run scared and shutting our doors and evacuating some of the people through the muslim world. what does congressman peter king think? let's ask the former chairman of the house homeland security committee. congressman, was it an overreaction? >> well, it is not an overreaction, and i support what the president did in the limited time frame, because once we saw the enormity of the potential

attack as it would have been difficult to defend a number of embassies of certain attacks, i see why the president did what he did, however, i think that one of the reasons that we leave ourselves vulnerable like this is that we are not aggressive enough as the new al qaeda threats and the president is sending mixed signals, and also we -- i don't believe we have a close enough relationship with some of the countries in the region, and the bottom line is that al qaeda is many ways is stronger than it was before 9/11 and there was a very serious attack planned, and still may occur. it is not over yet. you know, the threat is not over yet. >> it is obvious that what we did in terms of cautionary measures closing the embassies and the consulate was to avoid a repeat of what happened that tr tragic night september 11th, 2012, and they didn't want to do that, and now in benghazi, finally, after various reporters have interviewed one of the suspects in that attack, we now have a sealed indictment against

him. what do you think of the, you know, the promptness, the depth, the seriousness of our going after the people who killed our people in benghazi a year ago? >> well, it is not the oversimply it, but it is too a little too late. we are back to the pre-9/11 mindset to be treating it as a law and order issue and criminal justice issue rather than an act of war. to wait an year before we indict someone and not have them arrested is too little. with e no e who he is and where he is and we had every right to go take him and grab limb and take him and do what we have do in an act of war. if we are talking about a criminal proceeding in the courts, then again, we have not learned the lesson of 9/11 that we are not involved in some civil dispute or law and order dispute, but involved in a war, a war against al qaeda and a war against islamic terrorism which they started against us, and so

to me, it is the wrong thing to do. >> and the idea of as you flirt with running for president is a schism, you and the people who think like you and governor chris christie on one side and the side that says that we have to be tough against al qaeda and these national security threats, and there's the other side, rand paul and maybe some of the other guys, ted cruz who suggest that, you know, we have to worry about our own homeland, almost, isolationist frame of mind and a different frame of mind than your own, and do you worry that the republican party is split in half on this? well, i'm worried about the isolationist view of the republican party and how important it is for the country. all of us need to worry about the country, my god. but if we don't have a presence in the world and we don't protect the borders we are leaving ourselves vulnerable to attack. in the era, the vacuum will be

filled by al qaeda or other terrorists which means that the united states is at rising. we can't afford do it, and rand paul and senator cruz are wrong and in particular senator paul. >> and senator, before i let you go, you referenced the nsa snooping which appears to be larger than we thought and you say that you had no problem with it, and obviously, senator paul does in terms of the domestic surveillance there is a schism in the party. >> there is, and i don't consider it spying or snooping, but i do consider it surveillance. the fact is that it is geared almost entirely toward a foreign element overseas and not looking at phone calls and looking at the nsa that don't have the authority or the power to do that and stopping plots overseas and no government that is more close closely to monitor the nsa and the fisa courts on top of them and senator paul is doing a

disservice to implying that the government knows where he is doing or reading his e-mails or listening tos phone calls and he know it is untrue. >> congressman peter king, call me any time. appreciate i. >> thank you, geraldo. >> we go from the serious to the silly to the two of the ladies of reality tv are live tonight to react to the indictment of joe and theresa guidice on the "real housewives." . [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no. [ male announcer ] share more. save more. at&t mobile share for business. ♪

>> 19 times! [ bleep ]. >> 41-year-old theresa is the drama king on the "housewives of

new jersey." >> don't talk about my wife. don't talk about my wife. >> her italian immigrant husband joe has also had a hunk of crazy on the show. but neither was ready for the drama that slammed into their family. the colorful couple were charged in a federal indictment that alleges a slew of white collar crimes including mail and wire fraud, frank kraud, bankruptcy fraud as well as making false statements on loan ary cases. >> the investigations went on for a pretty long time and we're confident we have enough evidence to convict the defendants beyond a reasonable doubt. >> joe is also accused of failing to file tax returns from 2004 to 200. and going from bad to worse, he's now facing possible deportati deportation.

it's undeably harsh treatment that joe's attorney says is happening just because of joe's larger than life celebrity. >> he's being treated differently because of his celebrity status. >> the u.s. attorney says not so fast. >> joe giudice is a citizen of italy. and in the event of his conviction, he's facing possible deportation to italy. >> facing up to 50 years behind bars, teresa and joe will be back in court next week and are expected to plead not guilty. >> they'll be sentenced to court you should the advisory sentencing guidelines. ite seems like you have quite an extensive paper trail. >> the investigation went on for a pretty long time. we're confident that we have enough evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. >> monica's feud with the now infamous couple caused her to be thrown out of a peter being televised for bravo's "real

housewives of new jersey." our friend karen bravano, star of "mob wives" thinks that they're all amateurs. her father allegedly killed 19 people. divorce the whole reality tv thing for a minute. just respond as moms to the 16-year-old being rescued alive hannah anderson. >> thank god they found her. i can't even imagine what she went through. >> my prayers are with the family, hannah and her father. i can't even imagine what they're going through. but it just goes to show you that you can't be safe enough, you know, even with your friends close by. you have to always be on guard with everybody surrounding your children at all times. soo. >> i tell you, adult men around your children, treat them as if they were the enemy, i'm sorry. >> until proven guilty, absolutely. >> the mob wives and all the rest. now, you have had lots of legal problems with teresa and joe and

a lot of, almost threatening letter. do you feel vindicated by the federal indictment of this couple? >> i think vindication would come for my client more so than for me. i feel validated that my hard work as an attorney wasn't in vain. and that at the end, my client will be vindicate popped. >> who is your client and what did they, quickly, have to do with joe and teresa. >> my former client was a business partner with the giudices and buildings and apartment buildings. at some point in 2007, that relationship was deteriorated and they wanted to separate. the giudices owed my client money in the tune of $500,000, which was latest reduced to about $260,000. from that point forward, the giudices refused to pay my client back. and, in fact, that's where all the litigation came from. >> why did they throw you out of the party? >> well, that came a couple of years after the fact.

that was just bravo trying to get ratings. i'm not really sure. >> did they want you to be one of the real house wooifs? did you want to be one? >> well, i always heard rumors after the fact that people said i wanted to be one. call me a lot of things but don't ever call me a housewife. >> would you rather be a mob wife? so karen, first of all, what do you think of the real house wooifs. as a mob wife, as a mob daughter, rather. well, both, i guess. >> i enjoy the show, as far as the mob, i don't know their relation to it as, you know, i heard there's a lot of rumors they were involved in that lifestyle. but obviously if they are, they're going to have to take a 101 class because they have a big mess going on now. >> and in terms of your mob connections now, do you feel like the feds are always looking over your shoulder? >> i do, in my case. i don't feel like they're per say always looking over my shoulder .. i want to be careful in everything i do.

especially when i'm becoming very public in my life, i want to make sure everything is in order, i don't want to go back to a place i was before. i walked away from that type of lifestyle pl i wasn't a gangster. but i did get into my own troubles. and the reason i did come on tv was to get my life together and get past it. i'm going to be clean and squeaky. they can look all they want. >> dupg the giudices are being treated unfarley because of their celebrity? >> i don't want to say unfairly. ainge lot of times they're going to throw all the charges out there, the media is going to pick it up. being in this situation similar with my family, it's played out the media, i think it will drop. >> they were guilty of fraud maybe. your dad killed a lot of people. >> yeah, but it still played out on tv. >> "mob daughter" is your book. you have a new one coming? we had to shorten your time because of all this news, but thank you. (alarm beeping) stop foro one. what? it's red hot deal days. get $100 off the samsung galaxy note ii

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