bridge in new york city. finally the ugly. a 15-year-old speeding in a bmw responsible for this massive pileup in a mall parking lot. the teen and passenger tried to flee the scene but were caught. >> thanks for joining us. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> bye. >> good morning. hope you had a fantastic weekend. it is monday, august 12. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time. fox news alert. this teenage girl miraculously now safe and we're now hearing from the heroic horseback riders who spotted hannah anderson in the woods of idaho. >> they were like a square peg going into a round hole. they didn't fit. >> the tall tales and signs that gave them away coming up. >> parts of a florida resort near disney world

collapses as guests try to escape. details ahead. >> wrestling got the boot but now one group is trying to shed its boots to get into the olympics. will pole dancing make the cut? one can only hope. "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ >>gretchen: i knew eric would not lead -- read that lead-in without personal commentary. they look athletic, right? >>eric: they do. they look great. this is impressive in its way. it is an olympic sport. >>tucker: maybe it is. i'm open-minded. >>gretchen: glad the two of you open-minded gentlemen are joining me. tucker carlson.

>>eric: i'm in for brian. >>gretchen: technically. we're in a new studio in case you haven't noticed. sofas a little bit of a lighter color. we're over in -- what studio is this? >>eric: d. >>gretchen: okay. does huckabee still do his show here? >>eric: he does. >>gretchen: behind us here is a studio audience. maybe we can have a camera shot of that at some point. there it is. this is going to be the temporary home for awhile until i guess sometime in september, something like that. >>eric: brand-new studio. we start with brand-new developments in the kidnapping of research and -- kg of hannah anderson. horseback riders are speaking out. >> this story continues to unfold. one of the men saying almost immediately that he knew something didn't seem

right when he encountered them in a remote area of idaho known as the river of no return. the first red flag? james dimaggio and hannah anderson didn't have any hiking or rain gear with them and the teenager, hannah, was wearing pajama bottoms. >> it was like a square peg going into a round hole. they didn't fit. he might have been an outdoorsman in california but he was not an outdoorsman in idaho. he didn't fit. >> another red flag for those horseback riders? dimaggio told them he was red for the salmon river but going the wrong direction. another rider noticed hannah looked scared and was troubled by her behavior. >> we didn't know if it was the horses or what. when i turned and talked to him a little bit, i just didn't -- had a gut feeling about him. >> the group ran into them a little later at a lake. and just as they were about to leave, hannah said something that made little sense at the time.

>> she said looks like we're all in trouble now, or we're in real trouble now. and i thought it extremely strange. >> eventually that man called police after seeing the amber alert for hannah on tv. his call setting off a series of events that ended in her rescue and dimaggio's death. meantime we're learning a lot more about the eerie similarities between the life and death of dimaggio and his father. back in 1989 james dimaggio sr. was arrested for breaking into a home and holding a 16-year-old girl at gunpoint. he later committed suicide on august 10. august 10, that's the same day that james dimaggio was killed by the f.b.i., on saturday. this morning hannah remains in an idaho hospital with her father by her side. and coming up, two of those horseback riders who helped save her life will be live on "fox & friends." back to you.

>>gretchen: thanks, ainsley. we have other stories developing. while you were sleeping a sink hole forcing people out of a resort in florida. take a look at these dramatic pictures out of clermont. the villas are being swallowed by the sink holes. 60 feet wide, appears to be getting bigger now. the roof in some places snapped in two, cracks in the concrete. people who live there heard windows breaking as those villas sank but everyone got out safely. >> an amber alert was issued for isaiah perez on sunday morning after his mom and another woman were found murdered at their home. >> this was just a vigilant patrol officer sticking in the area, working on hunches on his home and he comes upon the child wandering. >>gretchen: officials don't know how isaiah ended up there. 22-year-old malcolm crowell under arrest in connection

with the homicides and kidnapping. in the aaron hernandez murder case, police believe he asked his fiancee to get rid of the murder weapons. surveillance footage shows jenkins carrying a lockbox out of hernandez' home. police believe she dumped it in the woods or took it to a storage facility. lea michelle giving a tribute to her boyfriend cory monteith when she accepted an award for choice tv actress. >> for all of you who admired and loved cory monteith as much as i did, through your love we'll get through this together. whether you knew him personally, he reached out and became a part of our hearts and that's where he'll stay forever. thank you guys so much. thank you.

>>gretchen: cory monteith died last month of alcohol and heroin overdose. >>eric: at day break colorado crews will continue searching for a woman last seen clinging to a tree during a flash flood and mudslide that left at least one person dead. more on the wild weather hitting the nation. >> witnesses this morning saying they saw the young woman described as having blonde hair on friday night as they fled the rushing waters near colorado springs. the flooding, the mudslides triggered when nearly one and a half inches of rain fell in 30 minutes over an area stripped of vegetation by a 2012 wildfire that same day. authorities recovered a man's body buried beneath the debris. >> it can be a dangerous situation. we don't know exactly what's in a lot of this debris. >> over in oklahoma city, a 60-year-old man drowned while trying to rescue a relative who was stranded

by flood waters. while in missouri's ozarks region, one of the hardest hit, a woman and her son were swept away during flash flooding in waynesville. crews spotting her body once the water receded. the national weather service says flooding is the deadliest thunderstorm-related weather event in the u.s. more people die from flooding every year than from lightning strikes or tornadoes. >>gretchen: heather childers live for us. thank you very much. let's talk about what happened over the weekend with regard to the sunday talk shows and lon snowden, father of edward snowden, the n.s.a. leaker, was on some of the chat shows and he was responding to what the president said during his press conference the day before about his son. i know eric, you're close to this story. you've spoken to the father before. >>eric: i have. i've spoken to lon personally. he's very concerned, a concerned father. he's also a concerned american. he's worried about what's going on. listen to what he had to

say. he was with his attorney on one of the talk shows. >> at this point what i would like is for this to be vetted in open court for the american people to have all the facts. what i've seen is much political theater. i was dis pointed in the president's press conference. i believe that's driven by his clear understanding that the american people are absolutely unhappy with what they've learned and that more is going to be forthcoming. we do have a perception problem and we have to deal with that. we need to let the american public know that this program is a program that protects them but does not violate their privacy. for an individual like snowden to turn his back and to give information to china, to russia, to al qaeda, that's wrong. he should be given a membership card to al qaeda because he has sure helped them evade our intelligence gathering which we use to protect us. >>eric: so this is on the heels of president obama's big speech on friday on surveillance and what he

was going to do in response to ed snowden leaking some information. the president did say they're going to come up with a website to allow more transparency for the n.s.a. and also put together a panel of people to discuss how to be more transparent in the privacy issues. but it seems a little bit too late and too little and i think lonnie snowden, his father, was pointing that out. >>tucker: i don't think that overstatement helps at all for congressman ruppersberger to compare snowden to an al qaeda. it is a bit of a side story. the core story remains the fact that the federal government has the ability and intention in some cases to spy on all 350 million americans. you may think that is a good thing or bad thing but it is worth debating. the idea that we should trust the obama administration, be quiet, that is silly. >>gretchen: the comment from the father of edward snowden was on the heels of president obama saying edward snowden was not a

patriot for what he had done. that was the response to it. will this n.s.a. program change? there are a lot of americans upset. will it change now under president obama? remember he kreut sighed president bush -- criticized president bush and a lot of his policies. i think it's pretty much going to stay the same. >>eric: tucker is right. they have the ability and they are spying on all 350 million americans. the only problem is they don't have the law behind them. it is not legal to spy on americans. the fisa, foreign intelligence surveillance act, foreign, has to be one of the factors when you're looking, when you're listening to, when you're reading e-mails or grabbing phone records, maybe even listening to phone conversations. the foreign part has to be part of it. it's in the patriot act. in my opinion, i think they violated the constitution and also the patriot act when they do it. >>tucker: this is not just an academic question. there's case after case of americans who have been swept into criminal investigations because of information the feds gathered on them

surreptitiously supposedly in the hunt for terrorists. lots of americans have felt the effect of this and you don't need to be a crazy aclu person to have concerns about it. >> it is a very interesting speech, speech in front of a press conference. to me, the most telling thing he said was perhaps something he didn't quite say. he didn't suggest he was going to operationally change this program. there's no suggestion that what he was doing and what president bush was doing before him with regard to these programs was anything other than lawful, effective and appropriate. >> i would disagree with that. lawful, you have to go by the patriot act. i have section 215 of the patriot act here. it says must -- must -- can only be used to obtain foreign intelligence information not concerning a u.s. citizen. if there is a foreign phone call made overseas.

what they're doing is what's happening tucker. let's say i make a phone call or send an e-mail to someone and it hits a server that's held offshore. >>tucker: eric is sending tucker an e-mail but hits offshore, they're counting that as a -- are you questioning the obama administration's good intentions? >>gretchen: i think he's questioning the way president bush did it as well. i think he's disagreeing with both. >>eric: president obama has taken the patriot act and blown it to bits. he said the patriot act says you're allowed to listen under certain circumstances. you can read e-mails under certain circumstances. president obama's administration has taken that and said those certain circumstances don't need to be metonym. we're just -- don't need to be met anymore. we just need to listen. >>gretchen: he had criticized many of those programs with regard to war on terror. he took an oath to do no harm but this morning a doctor is under arrest accused of giving patients chemotherapy that didn't need it. the reason why you may find

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wages for restaurant workers. >>eric: last we can we had breaking news that the restaurant workers were going to walk off the job. they were looking for double the minimum wage. >> right now the number is $15 an hour. here's the thing. like with these particular organizations, what they've done is you go, you talk to workers, you guys want to unionize, let's go to management, let's vote on it. they're using strong-arm tactics back in the day when there were fisticuffs. we're not talking fisticuffs but intimidation. recently in capital grill not too far from here, at the same time diners got up, about a dozen, and my check! my check. if you're having lunch with a potential business client, you're going to get up and walk away. sort of idea is to scare off, if you will, potential customers and force

restaurants to come their way. it's interesting, the focus on darton restaurants is big time. they own olive garden, red lobster, capital grill. i think there is a couple of reasons for it. when obamacare came out, darton, the owner said i've got to put my workers on part time because of the obamacare. people were shocked. >>tucker: the reality is the restaurant business has one of the slimmest profit margins of all businesses. all restaurants and all big-box retailers together they make less profit annually than apple alone. they don't have big profit margins. >> apple can have a 50% profit margin. >>gretchen: this caught my eye. you're talking about what

you feel is the end result of doing this. >> what i see is the creation of the modern-day welfare state. i think what i'm seeing is the left realized you can't fund this strictly on higher taxes. they keep trying and it's not working. the idea now is to suck it directly from the private sector. instead of more welfare payments, take a $7 job, a job that commands seven bucks in the open market and pay $15. instead of having the government fund mortgages, you might have had a job for months, you shifted money and suck it out of the private sector. i think that is going to be the big-time goal for -- >>eric: got to go. you're going to host varney and company. >> will we be able to get back on track? we'll find out today. >>gretchen: next on the rundown, new details about james dimaggio. did the alleged kidnapper actually want to die? we have a homicide detective looking at the

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>>eric: a volcano leaving six people dead in indonesia. more than 500 people refused to leave and the lava swept through their homes while they were sleeping. the volcano has been rumbling since last october. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu recovering from emergency hernia surgery. doctors say he will make a full recovery after a few days of rest. >>gretchen: after her six

day hostage deal a shootout killing james dimaggio, hannah anderson now in the hospital ostensibly safe. how did this go down and what can we learn now? fox news contributor rod wheeler joining me now. good morning. everyone relieved hannah has been found and she's safe and in the hospital reunited with her father. what do you make of the whole scenario and how he was caught and how he was killed? >> i think that's one of the questions that everyone is trying to figure out. what is the correlation between everything that has occurred with this case, going all the way back to the fire, going all the way back even before the fire. what was the relationship like between this guy did i i -- this guy dimaggio and this family so much so that dimaggio would set the house on fire, kill the mother and kill the little boy. what is the untold story between hannah and this guy dimaggio. there's been a lot of

rumors. it is important to wait until the actual facts come out. but the psychological investigators from the f.b.i. is trying to figure out what was the correlation, what is the correlation between this guy and young hannah. >>gretchen: i interviewed the father, brett anderson last thursday on the program and he confirmed to me that james dimaggio was a very close family friend and he went off to tennessee -- the father i'm speaking about -- to work for six months and he had no problem with his family spending time with this man. now it's coming out that quite possibly this man on the screen, james dimaggio, now deceased, may have gone on a trip to hollywood with this 16-year-old girl, the two of them, some months ago and they came back early because she felt uncomfortable. couple that with the fact that he told friend he had a crush on her. what do you do with that information? >> the term used, creepy, was used by hannah. that's because this guy was creepy.

hannah's girlfriends made mention to reporters that hannah said this guy had an affection towards her. i find the fact that her father, her biological father is a little different, i should say. i know people express their sympathy and their grieving a little bit different. but i looked at the interview yesterday that he gave and he seems awfully calm to me, for his daughter to have gone through such a traumatic experience. again, gretchen, i think what the psychological investigators and the f.b.i., which is what they're doing right now, trying to figure out what exactly was going on with this family and this guy dimaggio. >>gretchen: is it a good thing or a bad thing that the suspect is now dead? >> well, put it like this. we in law enforcement, we always would like to bring our preference is to bring the accused before the court of law. however sometimes situations dictate otherwise. in this case it's a good thing because this guy became aggressive towards

the f.b.i. agents. they had no other recourse but to take lethal action. >>gretchen: rod wheeler, an expert on all this. thanks so much. remember the newspaper that published the names and addresses of the gun owners in the state of new york? it turns out could have been a giant misfire. why? because this editor -- what happened? we'll explain. could pole dancing now be could pole dancing now be in the olympics? [ male announcer ] running out of steam? ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. need a little kick? ooh! could've had a v8. in the juice aisle.

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♪ keep it ♪ coming ♪ don't stop it ♪ no >> your shot of the morning. carlos danger doing his best to become top banana at the dominican parade in new york city. that's a woman offering anthony weiner a giant plantain. didn't exactly shy away from it. here he is busting a move in a moment he probably wishes was not captured in a photo. the mayoral candidate has been coming up short in the polls since admitting

sexting with many more woman. >>gretchen: was that woman handing him the plantain as a joke? he needs a fashion director for those red pants, i think. >>tucker: ready for the bullfight. >>gretchen: he's coming up in the polls. >>tucker: how could he not? he definitely gets points for exuberance. >>gretchen: that's the interesting mayoral situation we have here in the city. now we've got to tell you about extreme weather happening elsewhere. crews searching for a woman last seen clinging to tree during a mudslide. witnesses last saw the woman with blonde hair on friday as they fled the rushing waters. this is near colorado springs. two other people who were reported missing have been found safe. maria molina has been tracking the danger.

a different kind of danger than the one we were just alluding to. >> a much more serious danger across parts of colorado. out there it doesn't take much rain to produce flooding like you saw on your screen. we're talking about one, two inches of rain that could produce widespread flash flooding and we're looking at more storms possible for today. a very unfortunate situation across parts of colorado especially areas that have had to previously deal with wildfires. that's something to keep in mind. those burn areas are going to be more susceptible to flooding. we're talking about one, maybe two inches possible in some spots as far as additional rain today into tomorrow. other areas across the center of the country like kansas, oklahoma, last week we were dealing with extreme flooding out this, even parts of missouri. today, tomorrow, and wednesday looking at the potential for more showers, more thunderstorms and even damaging hail and isolated thunderstorms will be possible in kansas and oklahoma. in dallas, 101 for your

high. 82 in new york city. parts of the great lakes are in the low 80's. chicago, minneapolis, we're going to see a cold front move through today and also the next several days. air behind that system will be so much cooler than we're dealing with right now, you're going to really notice the difference especially during the early-morning hours. tucker, gretchen, eric, some of the early morning hours, 4:00, 5:00 in the morning could be in the low 30's. very unusual stuff especially for this time of year. >>gretchen: thanks so much, maria. now some other stories making headlines. a michigan doctor charged with medicare fraud will stay behind bars until at least tuesday. dr. fattah accused of misdiagnosing patients with cancer and ordering chemo for some who didn't need it. he billed medicare for tens of millions of dollars for the treatment but his lawyers say the charges are bogus. >> the government has not

retained an expert to give an opinion that there was misdiagnosis or unnecessary tests given to any patient. >>gretchen: prosecutors believe if fata is a flight risk. the next hearing will be tomorrow. >> be prepared to show your i.d. to buy nail polish remover. c.v.s. customers will have to show they are at least 18 years old and will be limited on the numbers of bottles they can buy. they say the new policy is to prevent criminals from buying it to make crystal meth. >> take a look at your tv screen. this is video of a meteor shower. the dazzling display released 50 fireballs an hour. the newspaper editor who came under fire for publishing names and addresses of licensed gun owners has been fired. karen mcbride editor of

the journal news in new york. those are your headlines. >>eric: took awhile. how about sports? jason dufner finally did it. dufner was a bogey on the 18th hole to win the p.g.a. championship. he finished ten under par. a major redemption for dufner who had an epic collapse two years ago in the same tournament. this is dufner's first major championship. tiger woods tied for 40th. winless in his last 18 majors. check out this photo. jamaica's usain bolt reclaiming his 100 meter world title in striking fashion. a real lightning bolt flashes across as he finishes -- crosses the finish line. he won in 9.77 seconds. this after bolt lost the crown two years ago for a

false start. atlanta braves made two world war ii veterans heroes. the pair got a standing ovation from the huge crowd at turner field on sunday. >>gretchen: that was a good transition. >>tucker: speaking of sports, it was too obvious, wrestling on its way out in many american schools and colleges and in the olympics, but one group is trying to replace it with a new sport. pole dancing. pole dancing grows out of the world of burlesque. it is normally associated with naked women. but they are trying to convince olympic authorities that this ought to be every four years in the olympics. >>gretchen: when you look at this type of pole dancing, you say that looks relatively athletic. i know i couldn't begin to do that. look at that move.

this looks like it takes a lot of practice, a lot of muscle tone and a lot of agent let seufplt but is it -- athleticism. but is it the correct thing to get rid of wrestling? is it right to do that and replace it with something like this? they might have to change some of the terminology of some of the moves. have you heard of some of the terminology? >>tucker: are you going to do this? >>gretchen: no, i'm not. i was hoping you would. >>tucker: no way i'm biting that one, gretchen. we have this athletic, beautiful, fit woman doing those moves. is there men's pole dancing. >>eric: i'm not sure i want to watch that sport. >>tucker: they're trying to change pole dancing, give it a new image. spectators cannot put dollar bills into the uniforms. they are saying no dancing can be done in an overtly erotic manner which is a little like saying you have a boxing match but it can't

be violent. >>gretchen: it said the gluteal dance. no hats, canes. anything that is not considered attached to the -- >>eric: you know that one sport where like a ribbon attached to a stick. >>gretchen: rhythmic gymnastics. >>eric: is that still an olympic sport? baseball and wrestling aren't but you wave a ribbon. >>tucker: we can be open minded. if you can fire a gun on cross-country skis, why can't you dance around a pole? >>gretchen: i don't have a problem including new sports as long as you keep the mainstay ones, which is what we're talking about. wrestling and baseball are some of the original sports, and maybe we just feel that way because baseball is an american sport. but wrestling is pretty

much a worldwide sport obviously. greco- roman. >>tucker: an american innovation, we need to take credit for that. >>gretchen: pole dancing? >>eric: pole dancing, the computer, the automobile. there are a lot of things we can lay claim to and i think we should as americans. >>gretchen: let the viewers let us know. you can tweet us or e-mail us. should pole dancing be an olympic snort coming up -- an olympic sport? coming up, what's in a name >>tucker: next time someone tells you to go fly a kite, you better not do it in this city because it it in this city because it could cost you big-time. [ female announcer ] it balances you...

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>>gretchen: 45 ph-pbs after the top of the hour. quick headlines for you. what is in a name? apparently not messiah. a judge in tennessee made the parents of a seven month old boy named messiah change his name. they went with martin. the judge says the name is for one person only and that is jesus christ. the mom says she will appeal. apple set to unveil a new iphone coming out. september 10 the iphone 5-s expected to have a similar design as the current iphone 5 but have a finger print reader for added security. tucker? >>tucker: remember this? ♪ beauty school ♪ dropout >>tucker: you really can fail at beauty school. the state of tennessee requires a person to be licensed just to shampoo

hair. this is one of the many hoops they have to jump through. joining us to discuss regulation nation is our republican strategist. it requires a license to shampoo hair in tennessee? >> five states require a license. tennessee has the most onerous regulations. you need 300 hours of education in the prep theory of shampooing. >>tucker: does this include conditioning? >> it does. brushing, combing, shampooing, rinsing and conditioning. you take two entrance exams. >>tucker: is rinsing on the exam? the point of this is to prevent other people from entering the business. it is a cartel that protects people who currently have licenses; correct? >> there you go. >>tucker: st. louis, wonderful city, kind of a breezy city. love to fly a kite there. can i? >> you can as long as you don't have anything on it that would conduct electricity. ben franklin experiment not

allowed. you cannot buy, sell, trade anything that has an appendage that would conduct electricity on it. >>tucker: amazing. this is another law in st. louis i was not aware of. the city's municipal code says it is unlawful to bring into the city a pauper or insane person who is likely to become a charge on to the city. i'm against regulation in general but very strongly for this regulation. why can't washington, d.c. apply a similar law? >> we wouldn't have any members of congress, would we? >>tucker: i guess that's true. are these laws enforced? >> looking at the pauper and insane one in st. louis, it's technically you can fine the president or director of the common carrier like an airline or bus company or train company that would bring these people in theoretically so that they don't become a debt on the city. if you have to pay for their food and everything. but it's funny because we as taxpayers pay for them across the board. we pay for their health care, food stamps, pretty

much everything. i don't know if this is st. louis's problem anymore as much as yours and mine. >>tucker: amazing what is on the books. i'm all for lawmakers taking long vacations and staying there. thanks for joining us. the president telling disabled veterans they might lose their benefits because of the sequester. but wait, wasn't the sequester thought of in the white house, the obama white house in the first place? we'll take a closer look at that. some kids go to camp, others go on vacation. this kid spent his entire summer mowing lawns and is giving away all the money he made. $16,000. $16,000. we'll tell you more.

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together. >> eric: wasn't the sequester his idea in the first place? joining us is ceo of concerned vets for america, pete. first of all, give us a sense, the veterans are sitting there, disabled vets, listening to president obama basically point his finger at congress saying it's their fault that the sequester is in place. your benefits are safe now because of me. but next year maybe not. what was the response? >> well, i wasn't in the room. but they're effectively listening to a veiled threat. this is a president saying hey, your benefits are good to go now, but going forward, they might noting because of congress. and to me, you got to see through -- here is the guy who is supposed to be leading our nation and he's standing up not leading, but demagoguing and anyone who has followed this known it's been the president's insistence on raising taxes, unwilling to do the heavy lifting of getting rid of things

raising taxes. >> eric: the president quotes wreckless across the board budget cuts. reckless? we're $16 trillion in debt. >> the reckless in the nature for the military in that hey, we're cutting critical programs, maintenance and training. there is definitely a reckless nature when itless could to our fighting forces. but we could reform the way the pentagon spends money in targeted ways to save about the same amount of money, but also make sure we're cutting fat. >> eric: this is a great nation. this country is amazing. we spend a lot of money on a lot of things. talk to us about the v.a. backlog. there are 780,000 disabled vets waiting for benefits. 500,000 are back logged. what's the nature of that? >> this is the first time he's talked about it in years. our group, concerned vets for americas, other groups have you been pushing hard on this issue. the only thing mentioned is it's

taken too long, but gone down 20%. yeah, a million down to 800,000. there are still 500,000 veterans in america waiting in line. that's not good enough. you know why? because v.a. is a bloated bureaucracy that's never been truly reformed. if the president wanted to turn that around, he would bring some accountability to that department. either the secretary should step down or be empowered to hire and fire as necessary in the department where you can't even get rid of the worst. >> eric: this back log increased under president obama, even though it's coming down from its peak, right? >> absolutely. it's gone up 2,000% under this administration, while funding for v.a. has gone up 40%. we've thrown more money at the problem. it has not been fixed. this president said he would do it. he hasn't. and he should be held accountable, the secretary should be held accountable for the failures of the v.a. >> eric: pete, thank you very

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manhunt. this morning we're learning what she may have been doing with the suspected killer. >> it's just like a square peg going into a round hole. they didn't fit. >> gretchen: hear from the heros who helped spot her straight ahead. >> eric: while you were sleeping, the resort near disney started sinking. vacationers evacuated as a massive hole gets wider and more of the buildings collapsed. the late breaking details coming up next. >> tucker: if republicans thought president obama was hard to beat, donald trump says hillary might be much tougher. is he thinking about throwing his hat into the ring for 2014? donald joins us live. "fox & friends" starts right now >> this is boone pickens, great show. watch it every morning. >> gretchen: we haven't heard one of those little entrees for quite some time. >> eric: he's a good man.

>> gretchen: he should have done a hello to tucker carlson and eric bolling who are flanking me. steve and brian are off. welcome to the two of you. >> tucker: thanks for having us. >> eric: pleasure to flank you. >> gretchen: thank you very much. [ laughter ] it's making me think of flank steak and now i'm hungry. let's get to the brand-new developments in the kidnapping of hannah anderson. there has been a development. the horseback riders helped lead authorities to hannah and her accused kidnapper, james dimaggio. now they're speaking out. one of the men saying almost immediately he knew something didn't seem right when he met them. the first red flag, dimaggio and anderson didn't have any hiking or rain gear with them. >> they were just like a square peg going into a round hole. they didn't fit. he might have been an outdoorsman in california, but he was not an outdoorsman in idaho. he didn't fit. >> gretchen: eventually that man called police after seeing the amber alert. he returned back home and realized wow, those two people i saw, they're looking for them. his call setting off a series of

events that ended in her rescue and dimaggio's death. that horseback rider is going to join us live coming up next hour. while you were sleeping, a sink hole forcing people out of a resort in florida. dramatic pictures out of claremont. this is a half hour from disney. the villas are being swallowed by that sink hole. 60 feet wide. appears to be getting bigger. the roof in some places snapped in two. the cracks in the concrete are massive. people vacationing there heard windows breaking as the villas sank. >> you know, this is our first day of vacation of the weekend and taking the kids to see mickey and at this point, we're just trying to take an assessment and be thankful for that. >> gretchen: luckily everyone got out safely. many of the people evacuated are being relocated to nearby hotels. also new overnight a missing toddler found alive and well less than ten miles from his hometown.

this is in rhode island. an amber alert had been issued for isiah perez on sunday morning after his mom and another woman were found murdered in their home. >> this was just a vigilant patrol officer sticking in the area, working on hunches on his own and he comes upon the child wandering. >> gretchen: officials do not know how isiah ended up there. 22-year-old man is under arrest in connection with the homicides and kidnapping after he had a struggle with police. texas boy spent his summer vacation mowing yards for extra cash. earning thousands of dollars. he was not stuffing his own piggy bank. 11-year-old dylan sending the money to victims of the oklahoma tornado disaster. he mowed nearly 90 lawns, making $16,000 in two months. it's called starting a business. two dozen people died in oklahoma. dozens more were hurt in may when those violent tornadoes

ripped through moore, oklahoma, south of oklahoma city. all right. good work, dylan. >> tucker: so the headline is, you can make $16,000 in two months? i don't have any calculator. >> eric: 2,000 a week. >> gretchen: i wonder what he charged. >> eric: i'm sure he said look, i'm doing this for the victims in oklahoma. give what you can give. i'm gog mow your lawn. great job, though. >> tucker: that's the way to do it then. if you're going to mow lawns. >> gretchen: say you're giving it to charity? >> tucker: yeah. >> gretchen: i like the fact that he did all the hard work because sometimes young kids get a bad rap in this day and age that they don't want to do jobs like that. >> tucker: that is so much more than i paid reporters. >> gretchen: all right. let's talk about the nsa leaker's father. edward snowden's dad was on one of the sunday chat shows yesterday. this comes on the heels of president obama friday afternoon saying that ed snowden, when asked, he believed he is not a patriot for what he did.

here is lonnie snowden. >> at this point when you consider many of the statements made by our leaders, leaders in congress, they are absolutely irresponsible and inconsistent with our system of justice. they have poisoned the well, so to speak, in terms of a potential jury pool. where my son chooses to live the rest of his life is going to be his decision. but i would like at some point in time for him to be able to come back to the u.s. whether he's going to live the rest of his life here or not and face this, because i believe that the truth will shine through. >> gretchen: i don't know if he's going to have a choice of where he'll live the rest of his life. he's committed crimes, according to the law in the united states. right now he has temporarily asylum in russia. if he comes back hooks, he would -- back here, he would have to face a federal trial. >> eric: president obama -- the question was asked of president obama whether ed snowden has become a whistle blower now or is he still -- in the president's mind, not a patriot or traitor, whatever

terminology. he said no, he's not a patriot. the question is, would -- would we be having this nsa discussion without ed snowden? i submit that we probably would not be. he shined a light on something that most americans didn't realize was going on, specifically that the fisa court, foreign intelligence court that decides who and what they can listen to has been allowing the government to listen to regular americans', without any suspicion of terrorist activity, listen to their -- i'm sorry, read e-mails, at least look at their phone records, possibly listen in as well. and i think it's at least opening the -- the debate has been good for america. >> tucker: that's a violation of the law, flat out. the nsa is not chartered to spy on americans, period. and what is striking to me is of course snowden has been charged, of course he ought to come back here and face justice like a man. everyone charged in american court out to face justice in my view and be judged. but the people in the

administration are violating more profound laws will never be charged. you can bet your week salary on that. and instead, they're comparing this guy to al-qaeda. i'm not defending ed snowden. i'm merely saying, let's not take our eyes off the core story which is the u.s. government is treating you like a suspect. >> gretchen: will there be any change with regard to that because president obama -- criticized president bush for these policies, and yet many would say he expounded on these more than president bush ever envisioned. is that a good or bad thing for the safety of america as we continue to battle the war on terror? here is michael hayden -- is he the former c.i.a. director? >> eric: c.i.a., right? >> tucker: certainly nsa director. >> gretchen: here he is. >> you need to be careful, all right? there is very powerful oversite now. the president said so. i don't think it's necessary. i think it's pretty clear the president doesn't think it's necessary to avoid abuses. you need to be careful, as i

said on air. what looks like additional oversite looks like bureaucratic layering after trying to slain why you weren't agile enough to stop the last attack. >> eric: can i jump in? i was wrong. it was former nsa director. here is the problem with what's going on. the people who are defending what the nsa is doing, they're putting up this false argument. if you're for privacy, they say you're against security. and that's not the case. i would say i would submit for myself, but i'm for all legal means to use whatever legal means you can to find out who are the bad guys and bring them to justice. just do it legally. just do it under the constitutional rights that you've been given and we'll all be okay. >> tucker: trust us is not a policy. that's what the president has asked the country to do. trust us, we're not going to misuse this data. just like we didn't misuse data the irs had. oh, wait, you did. >> gretchen: you would be against these policies no matter

who is running the white house. >> tucker: i would say it's really important, especially for conservatives, to keep in mind that a centralized power in the federal government can be misused. we've seen it misused recently. be skeptical anyway. of course there is a balance between security and privacy, but the idea that anyone who questions this is somehow abating al-qaeda, that's unfair. >> eric: we found out about a week ago that the f.b.i. said that they can actually flip the switch on your cell phone, and they can listen to your cell phone, the speaker on your cell phone. you know that there are ways that they can listen into phone conversations -- >> gretchen: maybe they could help me with my phone. >> eric: if you can't trust the irs, the irs is work with the dea who is working with the nsa, who is working with the f.b.i., is it that much of a leap to say they may share information and share content of conversations? >> tucker: they have. >> gretchen: let's deal in donald trump on this issue and so much more. he had a really special trip that he took. hey, donald. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: so were you in iowa, by any chance? >> i was, i was.

a friend of bob who said, would you do me a favor? come out and make the keynote. >> gretchen: okay. >> we had a great time. >> gretchen: you know what time are going to think now. iowa, donald trump, 2013. you running for >> it's certainly too early to even be thinking about it. welch three years, a long time to go. i had a great time there and amazing people. amazing. >> gretchen: that's as quiet you've ever been on any topic. >> really? wow. that sounds good to me. it was really something special, the people, the whole iowa thing is amazing. bob sander flats, who you know s a terrific guy. >> tucker: i can see you going over big in iowa. in the meantime, you've been giving advice about the bill, could be a death wish for the republican party if it passes. what do you mean by that? >> it's interesting, i'm watching people go in and then go out of that subject. they like the subject, then office they start backing off. senator rubio is backing off a

lot, as you probably have been noticing. but really when you think of it, we have 11 million illegal -- as they call them, illegals. a rough word, but it's a word nevertheless. every one of them, if they get the right to vote, is going to be voting democratic. now, that's fine and that's good, but are the republicans wanting to put themselves in that position? over a period of time, you'll have 36 to 40 million votes that perhaps 95% of those votes will be democratic. i think the republicans are starting to think about it and it's a problem. now, you have to do what you have to do. you have to do what's right. but virtually every one of those votes will be against republicans. so they have to be very careful and they have to think. >> gretchen: let's talk about what you think with regard to hillary clinton running for office. i know you were giving a warning to republicans that you feel like she's going to be tougher to beat than president obama. >> i think she's going to be the nominee, assuming good health and lots of other things. again, it's a long time in that case also.

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16-year-old hannah annualerson now safe after a week long manhunt for her and her suspected kidnapper. james dimaggio was shot dead. while his victim may be okay physically, her emotional state is unknown. her father talked about what he would do when he saw her again. >> let her know that i love her and her country was looking for her. you know, this was something that we'll have to take day by day and see what kind of help she's going to need and what kind of help for that i'm going to need. we'll move on from there. >> tucker: her father is at her bedside. what kind of recovery does she face going forward? dr. wendy walsh is an author and psycho therapist and joins us to answer that question. thank you for coming on. what psychological condition is hannah likely to be in right now? >> well, of course, she's completely traumatized, but

whether that manifests itself into posttraumatic stress, we'll have to see. she'll need a lot of grief counseling. she lost her mother and brother. >> gretchen: it's tough to ask, but there was a report out that she went away on a separate trip with this gentleman to hollywood, california several weeks ago, that she had told a friend that she felt uncomfortable with him now because he had some sort of a crush on her. but could she be complicit in this in any way? >> well, i don't like to use the word complicit, but i will say that this kind of predator grooms his victim often for years so that as adolescence with her was probably where it began and she probably felt flattered by his attentions, she probably -- she could have even had some delusion of having feelings for him, but again, this is all part of the manipulation. it's very easy to manipulate a

young girl. so i wouldn't say she was complicit, but who knows that she didn't sort of cooperate with him because she was under his magic spell. >> tucker: sure. it seems like fertile ground for stockholm syndrome. we interviewed her father yesterday that he had not spoken to her after she was rescued by the f.b.i. team in idaho. why would that be? do you have any sense? is there some reason the authorities would keep the father from speaking to the daughter? >> i don't know enough details, whether it was just purely -- that it was too complicated because he was trying to pack his bags and get onto airport and get on a flight, et cetera, whether she was being interrogated in another place or being given a specific kind of treatment or counseling, it could have been a practical matter, but i know the authorities will want to get all the information from all the sides separately before they put everybody together. >> gretchen: how does this affect her moving forward with relationships?

>> well, of course, she's going to a hard time trusting relationships for the rest of her life. one third of american girls suffer some form of abuse, whether that abuse is physical, sexual, or emotional. it most often comes at the hands of somebody they love. so this can be very confusing. girls can grow up to have an anxious or disorder detachment kind of style. again, we don't know how severe the trauma will be on her mentally. whether she'll have toss traumatic stress disorder, these flashback, just like a war veteran or whether she'll have survivor sin drum. she is young, so wonderfully, the brain has some ability to heal very, very well. we don't know. time will tell. >> gretchen: dr. walsh, psychotherapist and author. thank you for your time this morning. >> thanks. >> tucker: he survived two i.e.d. attacks, but not a walk on the beach. coming up, a veteran kicked off the boardwalk because police didn't believe his dog was a

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>> eric: time for news by the numbers. $35 million. that's how much money a doctor is accused of billing medicare and misdiagnosing patients with and ordering chemo for patients who didn't need it. $10,000, that's how much each survivor of the flight that crash landed in san francisco will get as compensation from the airline. they can still sue for more. and $425,000. that's how much u.s. taxpayers are paying for a new customs

faciliti' abudabi international airport. it will be fasterring that going through kennedy at new york in the usa. gretch? >> gretchen: thanks very much. this weekend america crowned a new miss teen usa. take a look. >> your first runner up is south carolina! which means miss teen usa 2013 is california! >> congratulations to you on the new miss usa, teen usa 2013! >> gretchen: hard to believe that was just a couple hours ago. fresh off the pagean winner cassidy wolf from california. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: so here you are in the big city and you're starting off your tour. i just found out you're going to be going to the new york film academy for a year. >> yes. >> gretchen: this is something in your blood. >> yes, i've been a dancer since i was two years old. this kind of is a new thing, but i'm excited. >> gretchen: you had already attended a year of college back in california.

what's the eventual goal for somebody who has this happen so young in their life? >> i've attended a year of community college. i just took on my own student loans and paying for my own schooling. this next year i'll be attending the new york film academy and have a year to kind of figure things out. so we'll see where things go from here. yeah. >> gretchen: we said we want to do give a message to parents out there and to teens with regard to social media. it's so tough. i can speak for myself as a parent 'cause you're trying to learn it while your child is learning it. odd scare. tell us -- you had a scare. tell us what happened. >> it's about on-line safety. about three months ago, i kind of got involved with an on-line stalker and hacker and it's an ongoing federal investigation. so i can't take say too much about it. but what i can say is that you just need to be so extremely careful with what you do on-line now adays because you never know what people can be doing to you on-line. social media is a huge thing now, so it's very important.

>> gretchen: even got to the point -- i know you can't say much. but i want to give a warning to parents -- that the hacker got into your computer, into your web cam in your bedroom and actually had shots of you there. >> yes. just things you're doing in your room, in the privacy of your own room that you never expect to being watched through. >> gretchen: what advice could you give to other young teens or to parents about that? >> constantly change your password. i had the same password forever, for years. so now seeing that someone can easily hack into my stuff just by downloading an incorrect link, it's very important to change your passwords, delete cookies, put a sticker over your web cam because you never know when someone could be watching. >> gretchen: great advice. the interesting thing is, folks, she's going to be living in the dorm. the new york film academy, we had always heard miss teen usa lived in this apartment in new york with miss universe. you'll have special hack he --

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(pig sounds). >> gretchen: oh, my god. >> tucker: unbelievable! contestants were judged on originality, clearness and vigorous. look at him deliver it. [ laughter ] >> eric: that could be the all-time best hog calling ever. >> gretchen: it's a multi-facetted talent. you have to do the suy and the snort. you want to give it a try? >> tucker: why do i feel threatened by that? i'm not sure. [ laughter ] >> tucker: he is all in. >> eric: yep. >> gretchen: what do they win? we got to find out. >> tucker: i think he's already won. >> eric: he's on fox. that was amazing. extreme weather alert. this morning, crews will continue searching for a woman last seen cling to go a tree during a flash flood and mud slide that killed another

person. witnesses last saw the young woman with blond hair on friday as they fled the rushing waters near colorado springs. two other people were reported missing have been found safe and maria has been tracking the danger there. maria? >> good morning. out here in new york city, we've had to deal with showers this morning. we're in a break in midtown manhattan, but could be seeing more showers later on today. it's a widespread area, including colorado that could have rain today. we are expecting more rain today in parts of colorado and like you just mentioned, we still have one person missing and one person was killed over the weekend due to flash flooding occurring from some of the storms. it doesn't take much rain in parts of colorado to see extreme flooding, especially in the areas that have already been impacted by wildfires. the burn areas are very susceptible to flooding. otherwise more showers and storms across the center of the country. some of those in parts of kansas and oklahoma, especially throughout the afternoon and

evening hours, could be producing damaging winds in excess of 60 miles an hour, large hail and isolated tornadoes. temperature wise, hot again in texas. high temperature in dallas, forecast to be 101 degrees. 82 in chicago, cleveland, expecting a high of 84. eric, tucker and gretchen, we have a new cold front that will swing through parts of the great lakes. tomorrow morning and also wednesday morning, some people across parts of minnesota and parts of wisconsin could be seeing some temperatures in the early morning hours in the low 30s. very, very unusual for the month of august. >> gretchen: yeah. but they're used to it. i remember snow on halloween frequently. all right maria. thanks so much. now to the other stories making headlines overnight. another twist in the aaron hernandez murder case. police believe that he asked his fiance to get rid of the murder weapon. according to a search warrant, surveillance footage shows jenkins carrying a lock box out

of his home. police believe the gun was inside and she may have dumped it in the woods or even took it to a storage facility. the editor who came under fire for publishing the names and address of legal licensed gun owners came under fire. the paper's on-line gun map drew widespread outrage before the paper pulled it down. he survived two ied attacks in afghanistan, but he can't complete a simple walk on the beach. army vet jared was taking a walk with his service dog along the boardwalk when an officer insisted guide dogs form the blind were allowed. he gave him a summons. the police department is investigating his claim. take a look at this incredible video. no one gets seriously hurt. a father and his son leaving a restaurant in romania when -- we're going to watch in surprise together. this is what happens.

whoa. a driver loses control of his car, crashing within inches of the pair. the man behind the wheel suffered minor injuries. dad and his son are fine. no word on why the driver lost control. and those are your headlines. >> eric: continuing coverage of a fox news alert. a week long manhunt ending in a irrigates national stand-off with police. james dimaggio, the man accused of kidnapping 16-year-old hannah anderson after killing her mother and her eight-year-old brother, shot dead by federal agents saturday night. >> tucker: what exactly happened in the moments leading up to this rescue and how is hannah doing now? joining us is the spokeswoman for the sheriff's department in idaho. thank you for joining us this morning. so can you tell us, one of the missing puzzle piece social security what happened in the final -- pieces is what happened in the final confrontation? was there a gun fight? how exactly did this unfold, his

killing? >> that's what the f.b.i. shooting review team is in idaho to determine. that is the team's job is to make sure that they get every piece of information they can about exactly what happened just before and just after hannah's rescue, and it's up to that team to decide. that investigation, of course, in-depth one and it will take several days and weeks. >> tucker: was mr. dimaggio armed? >> we don't have that information. that's all part of that investigation. >> gretchen: how important was it for these horseback riders -- we're going to be speaking to them coming up on the show in about 40 minutes or so -- but how important was there information when they apparently saw the pair, went back home, realized there was an amber alert out and called authorities? >> this is the most critical piece of information. these four people led the f.b.i. team, led all of those rescuers straight to where hannah and dimaggio were. and they were able to give us so

much information about the land, about the trails that lead to them, they told us where they expected their vehicle had to be. if you've seen the pictures of that car, it would have been very, very difficult to find had we not had some information about a likely location. so they really did -- they are the biggest piece of bringing hannah home. >> eric: a lot of people are trying to figure out how hannah ended up to be with this 40-year-old gentleman. is there any light you can shed on this situation, what her demeanor was like? was she scared? did she look like she was comfortable? anything you could do to help us out to figure this out? >> no. i know that that's information that people are hoping to get. but at this point, really our main concern is just making sure that hannah is safe now and getting all of the help she needs as she goes through what is undoubtedly a very emotional time. >> gretchen: so you had teams flying over this wilderness area looking before you had actual

officers move in close. so how do you do that without raising suspicion? if i'm dimaggio and i see choppers above me, i'm probably thinking they're coming after me. >> we're absolutely using the best technology we can to get a visual of that and we did have people in aircraft that were able to spot what they thought were two people and then they were able to get a little closer, they determined that it looked like this pair met the description -- matched the descriptions and then once the teams were on the ground, they were able to confirm that as well. >> gretchen: then, of course, they shot james dimaggio. he is now deceased and they were able to get hannah away safely. andrea, you're the spokesperson for the sheriff's department in idaho. thanks for your time today. >> you're welcome. >> gretchen: a fox news alert. a sink hole causes a florida resort to partially collapse. guests had been evacuated.

this as the sinkhole continues to grow and another section is still sinking. the owner is calling the villa a total loss. wofl reporter he live with the very latest. ray, what happened? >> gretchen, this was a nightmare for some 20 residents who were inside building 104 here at the summer bay resort, about ten miles west of disney. residents who were inside villas, which are two bedroom, two bathroom villas, describe hearing loud cracks, seeing cracks all along the walls of their villas and all of a sudden, hearing glass shatter as the building fell into the sink hole which we understand was about 60 feet wide and about 15 feet deep. we understand more than 50 people were evacuated from the area. some residents we spoke to described running for their lives and seeing people jump out of windows in order to get to cover and safety. the whole building has been destroyed. we got a chance to speak with one person who was inside at the

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drink driving accident, it's the power company's fault. does that sound reasonable? joining me for a legal debate, arthur and defense attorney david schwartz. david, he's suing the power company 'cause the power company has the money. they're not the ones who got drunk and drove into a pole. >> that's very true. they have the money. they're the deep pocket in this case. but they have every right to sue. this is not even a close call. i know it sounds funny, it's not even a close call. unless you want to undo hundreds of years of common law and theories of negligence, this passenger has every right to sue the power company. >> although the higher court agreed with david, it's such a not close call that the lower court, the judge on the ground level, the judge who has his hands dirty every day with doing the people's business said, get out of my courthouse! get out! you go into a car with a woman who you know is bombed, then she speeds. it's one thing you're drunk, okay, but listen, dude, we're going to try to get home under

the influence, let's go slow. speeding, boom! hits the pole! >> david, what about -- this pole has been there for a long time. thousands, hundreds of thousands presumably of nondrunk motorists have driven by and not hit it. >> actually the pole was hit two other times. so the county was on notice. that's first thing. the power company was on notice. the bottom line, you can argue as a lawyer and a jury may buy the argument that the pole was too close to the street and therefore, the power company was negligent. the judge ruled on a motion -- >> this is where common sense gets thrown out the window. >> tucker: people who can pay damages are guilty. >> exactly. >> that's not true! not guilty, but let's go after them. look, should the power company have to put the pole where it should be put ten feet from the roadway? >> yes. >> negligent per say. >> not per se. it has to be causation, it means the pole had to be an integral

part of the accident. if it was ten feet away would the accident have happened? in other words, did she just brush the pole or did she slam into it and didn't matter if it was five or ten feet away? >> tucker: don't you give up the right -- >> and she pled guilty. >> it's a civil case. to answer artie's questions, the driver was trying to veer out of the way. >> tucker: and the pole jumped out? >> yes, the pole jumped out! >> she clipped it. >> look at the facts! >> if the pole -- look, the law is the law. >> she pled to a felony. >> tucker: all right. >> a b felony. >> tucker: i think you've conceded that you're wrong. but i appreciate the spirited defense. arthur, great to see you, too. he charged an enemy fire to help rescue injured soldiers. but now the federal government has abandoned the man who helped him. a medal of honor recipient joins

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>> gretchen: good morning, everybody. it's monday, august 12, 2013. i'm gretchen carlson. things so much for spending part of your day with us today. fox news alert. new details about the daring rescue of this young woman, ma in a anderson. at this hour, you're going to meet the four horseback riders, at least some of them, who likely saved her life. >> tucker: new overnight, part of a florida resort near disney world collapses. the rest of it is still sinking as vacationers desperately try escape, some through the windows. details straight ahead. >> eric: anthony wiener doing his best to be top banana in new york's mayoral race. the pictures you have to see. "fox & friends" starts right now

>> i'm donald trump. you're watching "fox & friends." if you turn the channel, you're fired. >> gretchen: yikes. good thing donald trump was already on the show 'cause he sounded like he was hot under the collar this morning. you might be fired if you're not in line. good morning, everybody. tucker carlson is here and eric bolling is here. >> eric: great to be here with the carlsons. >> gretchen: we have to start with brand-new developments in the kidnapping of hannah anderson. horseback riders who helped authorities find hannah and her kidnapper is speaking out. one of the many saying immediately he knew something didn't seem right. the first red flag, they didn't have any hike or rain gear. this is in idaho. >> they were just like a square peg going into a round hole. they didn't fit. he might have been an outdoorsman in california, but he was not an outdoorsman in

idaho. he didn't fit. >> gretchen: so eventually that man called police after seeing the amber alert when he got home for hannah on tv. his call setting off a series of events that ended in her rescue and dimaggio's death. two of the horseback riders will join us live coming up in about 30 minutes. check this out, a sinkhole forcing people out of a resort in florida. this is dramatic scene. claremont, florida. it's only a half hour from disney. the villas are literally being swallowed by the sinkhole, 60 feet wide and appears to be getting bigger. the roof in some places snapped in two, cracks in the concrete. they're massive. people vacationing there heard the windows breaking as the villas sank. >> you know, this is our first day of vacation of the week and we were supposed to be taking the kids to see mickey. at this point, we're just trying to take assessment of our lives and be thankful for at least

that. >> gretchen: luckily everyone got out safely. many of the people evacuated are being relocated now to other parts of that resort. also new overnight, missing toddler found alive and well less than ten miles from his hometown in rhode island. an amber alert was issued for isiah perez on sunday morning after his mother and another woman were found murdered at their home. >> it's just a vigilant patrol officer sticking in the area, working on some hunches on his own and he comes upon the child wandering. >> gretchen: officials don't know how isiah ended up there. 22-year-old man under arrest at this hour. he's been arrested for the two homicides and the kidnapping after a struggle with police. lea michelle giving a touching tribute to her late boyfriend and "glee" co-star, cory monteith. at last night's teen choice awards, she became emotional when she accepted the aword for choice tv actress.

>> for all of you out there who loved and admired cory as much as i did, i promise that with your love, we're going to get through this together. whether you knew him personally or not, cory reached out and he became a part of all of our hearts and that's where he'll stay forever. thank you guys so much. thank you. >> gretchen: monteith died last month of an alcohol and heroin overdose. fort hood shooter trial resumes this morning and prosecutors say it could wrap up sooner than expected. casey stegall is live in fort hood, texas with the very latest. what does that mean, casey? >> good morning. they're going through these witnesses very, very quickly and if they continue to go at this pace, we could see closing arguments, according to some legal analysts, toward the end of this week. that is unless there is any kind of a major hick couple, which -- cup hiccup, which we saw last week.

everyone is waiting to see because it's a wild card at this point. major nidal hasan is representing himself. he's not a lawyer and he's had some interesting questions in court, although he hasn't participated very much, which is one of the reasons why this is moving so quickly. we are in week two of this long-awaited court-martial. the shooting happened here on the fort hood military post in november of 2009. everyone returns first thing this morning. 10:00 o'clock eastern is when this resumes. the prosecution or the government in this case got through 44 witnesses last week. we're more than halfway done. we really knew what happened on that day was terrible. but we didn't know much else. that is until stories started emerging from the witness stand last week. accounts of blood soaked floors, people pleading for their lives before they were shot, even stories of heroism. multiple eyewitnesses telling the court about retired chief warrant officer michael cahill

and captain gaffney and how they were killed trying to charge the gunman with a chair to stop him. hasan looks frail, emotionless. he sits in his heel chair. remember he was paralyzed on that day when he was finally shot and taken down. he stares at the defense table the majority of the time, asking very few questions and not making much eye contact with the witnesses on the stand. people he is accused of shooting. gretchen. >> gretchen: casey stegall, thanks much. this is still very controversial for a variety of reasons, but the big thing is that it's being labeled as workplace violence and that has a domino effect for these victims. not only do they have to come and testify in front of nidal hasan, but they are not receiving certain benefits because they have not been -- it has not been deemed as a terrorist attack. >> eric: and he continues to earn his salary, upwards of

$300,000 since the isn't took place. gets to defend himself, has evidentiary rights that he would not have had he been deemed a terrorist. you kill 14 people and yell allah akbar, it should be labeled terrorist. >> tucker: now it's not even a question. certainly there was some confusion why he acted the way he did, why he murdered all these people. now there is no question, he's been really clear, including in communications with fox news, he acted out of his religious beliefs. he is an islamic extremist, this was domestic terrorism. >> gretchen: the government said if he's found guilty, then they may change the title of what they're calling it. but that's certainly still outrageous to the families who had all these years, now fourth year waiting for that. it affects the way in which they can receive purple hearts. so these families -- for that matter, the nation really, many people upset at the terminology being used here.

let's talk about the nsa. we disagree on the couch about this. still friends with carlson and boling, but the father of the nsa leaker, edward snowden, lon snowden was on one of the talk shows yesterday morning and responding to president obama saying that he does not believe that his son is a patriot. listen to this. >> at this point what i would like is for this to be vetted in open court for the american people to have all of the facts. what i've seen is much political theater. i was disappointed in the president's press conference. i believe that's driven by his clear understanding that the american people are absolutely unhappy with what they've learned and that more is going to be forth coming. we do have a perception problem and we have to deal with that. we need to let the american public know that this program is a program that protects them, but does not violate their privacy. for an individual like snowden to turn his back and give information to china, to russia,

to al-qaeda, that's wrong. he should be given a membership card to al-qaeda because he has sure helped them evade our intelligence gathering which we use protect us. >> tucker: it's not helpful to dismiss snowden, whatever you think of him, as a member of al-qaeda. i mean, you can believe he's a criminal, but we can all agree that the country deserves a vigorous public debate on the degree to which the government can spy on its own citizens and to write off anyone who disagrees as a terrorist ends the debate. >> eric: let's not forget on friday, president obama said ed snowden should have done it the whistle blower way. he said there are proper avenues, but don't forget, this is the same group, dennis clapper, director of national intelligence -- james clapper, raised his right hand under oath and said that we weren't doing exactly what we're doing, the nsa, wasn't data mining millions of innocent americans and then had to come back later and

apologize for misleading the american people. the point is, if clapper is snowden's boss' boss' boss' boss and he was willing to lie, i mean, doesn't really set autopsy great whistle blower program. >> tucker: how is the obama administration treated whistle blowers? it sent some of them o prison, including a form c.i.a. officer who was in prison now for blowing the whistle on what he believed were abuses. for the president to say, be a whistle blower, yeah, right. good luck with that. >> gretchen: who would have ever thought that if you are a pole dancer -- we get special music for this. anyway, could it become an olympic sport now? pole dancing? keep in mind wrestling, one of the first ever olympic sports. remember greco roman wrestling? that's on its way out, unfortunately. baseball, which i think got into the fray with the olympics in

the '80s, and now that's going to be a time of the past. but this may be an olympic sport. >> eric: just to clarify, i believe it's september 20, there is a hearing to decide whether or not they're going to remove wrestling. baseball i think was already removed. they may reopen that case. but then they'll also decide whether pole dancing -- again, very, very athletic moves. she's doing a very, very good job. however, don't remove wrestling and baseball. >> tucker: we should be clear, this is not your grandfather's pole dancing. >> gretchen: meaning? >> tucker: you can't put a single dollar bill into the uniform if you're in the audience and i'm quoting now. it cannot be done in an overtly erotic manner. >> gretchen: can you imagine somebody commenting on this? you know how they comment while it's going on? they can't use any of the terminology that's currentsly used. we can't even say it on tv. they'll have to come up with a whole new way of describing exactly what that act is right there. >> eric: can you imagine, you're a perfect 10 pole dancer?

>> tucker: yeah. >> gretchen: i'm not sure how they're going to grade them, on what scale? shear a tweet from marie, olympic quality pole dancing sounds more interesting and athletic than that ribbon thing or synchronized swimming. >> tucker: laurel writes, should we laugh or call dr. keith ablow to see if this event or sport is normal or nuts? actually i'd love to know what he thinks of this. >> gretchen: okay. we'll have to ask him. he charged into enemy fire to help rescue injured soldiers, but now the government abandoned the man who helped them. dakota myer here next. >> eric: want asylum in the united states? all you need to say are three simple words. the shocking words, the details next hour so then the little tiny chipmunks go all the way up...

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>> tucker: two years ago, dakota myer received a medal of honor for bringing back bodies his fallen comrades. but he was not alone in that. he was joined by his afghan translator. that translator who helped the u.s. fight the taliban would like a visa to come to the united states. he faces threats in afghanistan. but despite his heroism, he and his family remain stuck in bureaucratic limbo. joining me now, dakota myer, and the co-author of a book. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me on. >> tucker: hafez is the name he's using. tell us about what he did for you and for this country. >> you know, for the day i received the medal of honor, he was in the truck with us after that first time going in. he was in the truck.

he covered me multiple times with the gun on the truck. he would get out with me. he was next to me, within arm's distance the entire time and helping me look for my team. and when i went in and me and another guy met up with him, he had come out and he had already been wound once. i asked him to go back in because i told him i needed to find my team. and he said, you know, it's very bad there. he just kept saying it's very bad. i said look, will you please come with me? i really need you. he said if is my day to die, then it's just my day. and he went in with me. he stayed there the whole time. >> tucker: he sounds like brave, brave man. why can't he come to this country? >> i don't know. we've tried to do everything going through the system. we've put in his visa. i actually -- my team put in the visa, the final part of the package. i think it was maybe the first or second time we had to reapply

back in 2009 and we've been following this process. we have multiple e-mails trying to get this going since then and i don't know. it's caught in the system, i guess. i don't know why he can't get here. nobody can give me any answers. >> tucker: the state department is slow walking this. in the meantime, he and his family are stuck in afghanistan. what is life like for them there? >> he wrote me an e-mail the other day and he said -- he starts off, he's so considerate of everyone else, but he basically is having to provide security at his house at night for fear he'll be killed and also doesn't have a job now. >> tucker: there is really no question at all that this man behaved heroically on behalf of the united states. and you and your comrades fighting in the marine corps there, and yet he is facing imminent death in afghanistan. have you gone up the chain at all? have you complained to office holders, for example, or your commanding officers? >> i have. i've complained to office

holders and the response i got back from that was, well, there is only x amount of visas for that. he should apply for this visa 'cause there is more there. in the vehicle that day, there was five of us. there was one medal of honor awarded. swineson is up, two navy acrosses and this guy can't even get a visa? >> tucker: there are 5,000 visas set aside for afghans who help u.s. forces in afghanistan and a very small number of them have been used. this reminds me, and tell me if it reminds me, of how our government has treated the pakinstani doctor. you see him there on the screen, who helped locate bin laden for us and then was promptly arrested by the pakinstani government and i believe remains in prison. we basically abandoned him, too. what kind of message does that send? >> people are going to stop helping us. these guys have done so much. i can't tell you how many times an interpreter has kept me out of a bad situation and probably saved lives.

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>> tucker: quick headlines this morning. a stunning report, hundreds of illegal aliens taking advantage of a loophole to cross the border and get asylum here in the u.s. >> they're told if they come across the border, when they come across, they say certain words and they're allowed into the country. >> tucker: three of those magic words, a credible fear of drug cartels. nearly 200 people used it in just a single day. take a look at your tv screen. brand-new photos of the perseid meteor shower, lighting up the sky overnight and producing 50 fire balls an hour. the shower happens every august. don't miss it. eric? >> eric: thank you. many american teens are heading off to college along with that personal independence comes financial independence. so what can parents teach their teens today to avoid major money trouble down the road? >> gretchen: luckily we have personal finance expert and ceo

of betterment investments, john stein with us this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. it's great to be back with you. >> gretchen: let's start off with what your company does. >> it's an investment platform that automates investing and makes easy for anyone to invest for the long-term. some of the tips that we want to give to recent grads or soon to be college students are the same kind of advice that we would give o anyone who is pursuing a long-term goal. >> gretchen: all right. so when we're talking about college, we're talking about student loans and they're just ballooning out of control. >> it's a major national problem. you can't discharge that debt in bankruptcy. what we say is be careful about how much student debt you take on. so i have friends who would use it for a fancy apartment or expensive vacation. but just think about $50,000 worth of student debt means you'll be paying $500 a month for the next ten to 15 years to pay that debt down. that's a significant drain when you're just starting out. >> eric: talk to us about this next one. a lot of kids get in trouble with this, credit cards. what are you saying? understand credit card before go

away and get your own? >> absolutely. learning early is important. university of cambridge study said that most financial behaviors are learned by the age of seven. so we're learning from our parents. we're learning from those role models at an early age. the important thing is to balance your budget. some people say don't even use the credit card in front of your kids. we think it's okay to spend cash. if you need help balancing a budget, you need a budget.com or mint.com. >> gretchen: didn't they change the rules with credit cards for kids? i think they did. >> that's right. >> gretchen: they used to be able to recruit them at colleges. >> absolutely. they've clamped down on it, which is good. some credit can be good, as long as you're balancing the budget. one way is our third point, which is get a job. you never want to be spending more than your earning. i worked at a hamburger joint when i was in school. it not only taught me great lessons about team work and leadership and all of that that i still relate back to this day, but it also was a great way to balance the budget. i always had money coming in and i would never spend more than i was earning that month. >> eric: i love this fourth one, personal experience in college.

i bought a pinball machine. i bought a used one, put it in the fraternity house, every night i take the money out and guess what i did with it. invested in college. >> here you are today. >> eric: college students shouldn't be afraid of investing. >> absolutely not. especially with a service like betterment, which makes it easy to automate those good behaviors. but even warren buffet bought his first stock when 11. you may not have a lot of money, he didn't when he started. but that power of compound interest over that long period of time makes a huge difference. >> gretchen: how much money are you talking about? if somebody has 100 bucks? >> that's fine to get started. there are services like ours that have no minimum balance. so you can start with nothing and you can contribute regularly in an automated way. >> eric: we got to go. but do you have some sort of cut rate service for kids who are in school? >> betterment is a great platform for actually starting out. you can invest just 100 bucks a month and it's extremely inexpensive and takes almost no time to manage.

>> gretchen: all right. check it out. thanks, john. >> thank you. >> gretchen: coming up, they were just out for a trail ride and they ended up finding the girl america was looking for. meet the four horseback riders who likely saved hannah anderson from her kidnapper. >> eric: anthony wiener doing his best to be the top plantain in new york city. why this guy just won't quit what makes your family smile? backflips and cartwheels. love, warmth. here, try this. backflips and camm, ok!s. ching! i like the fact that there's

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to prevent him from becoming mayor. >> gretchen: himself. >> tucker: and wearing red pants. >> gretchen: there is so much innuendo in that. let's just leave it be. >> tucker: you wouldn't vote for him? i'm tempted. that's hilarious. >> gretchen: i'm wondering if she was handing it as a joke or a serious gesture. >> eric: imagine being like, that's my mayor. that's my man. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: all right. on to a much more serious issue. continuing coverage, 16-year-old hannah anderson found safe after a manhunt for hess kidnapper comes to a dramatic end. earlier last week, two couples on horseback spotted the duo in the i haded wilder -- idaho wilderness, but something didn't feel right so they reported it to police when they got home. mark and kristy and make and mary are credited with helping save hannah's life and for them, we should mention that the two gentlemen can hear us and the

two women cannot. so we may have to relay a couple questions to the women through you two gentlemen if you don't mind. good morning to all of you. >> good morning. how are you? >> gretchen: we're doing great. mark, why don't i start with you. tell me what you thought was unusual or suspicious or what you thought at all when you saw this couple together. >> well, one thing that was really suspicious was that this guy was -- he just didn't fit. he had the wrong kind of clothing on. everything was out of order with him. kind of like a round peg going in a square hole. then when we got down to the lake, then he carried a cap back in that rough country and was standing there stroking a cat. that was really unusual, along with the fact that he had brand-new slacks and tent and

everything and tent was big, heavy. the girl was -- they didn't want to talk to us. >> eric: maybe you could tell us -- you saw them, they looked a little out of place. but you hadn't heard about the story yet. is that right? >> no, we hadn't heard anything about the amber alert. >> eric: then what did you do? >> well, we just tried to talk to them, but they didn't want to talk to us very bad. they avoided it. that was extremely strange. when we got home, we seen the amber alert. i told my wife immediately, that was the girl we seen on the mountain. then we called the state police, got the ball rolling. >> tucker: what did she say? apparently you all exchanged words with hannah. what was her disposition and what did she say to you? >> what did hannah say to you? >> she didn't say anything to me. she was at the lake soaking her feet, which i'm sure she had lots of blisters from that long

hike. i wanted to go over there and mark discouraged me because we really didn't have any reason. i think he must have had an instinct about me not going because if i had gone over there to talk to her, he might have felt like she was going to divulge something and something serious could have happened out of that situation. >> gretchen: of course. >> in hindsight, i'm glad i didn't go speak to her. >> gretchen: mike, if you could give us your thoughts. did you think it was a father-daughter kind of situation or what went through your mind? >> well, it crossed my mind a little bit when we first come up on them. i seen both their faces and she had a fearful look in her face and i just didn't like what i seen in his face. we got up the trail a little ways and i turned around and told the rest of the group that there was something not right. she was wearing what looked like either pajama bottoms or sweat pants and we got a little

further up the ridge, there was a tent pitched, put up on top of a dry ridge and i did talk to him. she wasn't giving us any eye contact much. but he told me he was going to the salmon river, which was the wrong direction. so there was -- >> eric: i guess the way i read, i'm not sure if this is accurate, but you literally started to ride away and then she addressed you and kind of spoke to you to try and get your attention. is that right? >> well, no, that's after we got down to the lake and they actually followed our horse tracks down to the lake, which is almost a 12-mile walk. we got packed up and ready to come back out, then we seen them pull up at the lake there and she had her feet in the water soaking them. again, she wouldn't give me any eye contact. crista did hear her say we're all in trouble now when we come past.

i talked to him a little bit. he was stroking a cat. just things didn't set right. we figured that when we got home, we needed to look at the news and see if we could find something out about this girl. just got a feeling. >> i talked to him and asked him what possessed him to come clear out here and he said that last year she got to pick where they were going and she wanted to go to los angeles and hollywood and so this year was his turn. so that was a plausible explanation why they were out here. >> tucker: was he carrying a firearm? could you tell? >> no. we didn't see any weapons on him whatsoever. but what triggered her to say anything was i was jokingly, i told her she was soaking her feet in the lake, and i jokingly told her, i says, you know, get your feet out of that water, i said, don't you know there is fish in there? and then she made that statement that, well, looks like we're all

in trouble now. and we kind of figured that meant that they'd followed us into the wrong part of the country there and they had a real bad hike back out of there. >> gretchen: so you get home, mark and mike and you realize that this is actually the girl that the amber alert is talking about. when you called authorities, how does it feel today to know that you are responsible for saving her life? >> well, we kind of figured it. we just did what any other citizen would do. maybe we was a little more suspicious than other people, but it's a real good feeling to know that it turned out the way it did. >> eric: can i just point out, you guys did a great job. you engaged the people that looked suspicious, you talked to them. stroking a cat, i mean, would stand out in my mind. you talked to them, got some information. once you found out about the amber alert, you made the phone

call. anyone watching this, you played it by the book, i would say. >> well, we hope we did. you don't take a cat back into the wilderness area unless you're going to hunt wolves or mountain lions. that's good bait for them. otherwise you don't take a cat back there. that's just totally out of place. >> tucker: was he using the cat to bait mountain lions or wolves, did he say? >> yes. a cat would bring them in in a heartbeat. i told him that, dimaggio. he just kind much smirked at me. that was it. >> gretchen: it's a fascinating story and it goes to show that regular citizens can make a huge difference in these situations. it goes to show how important amber alerts are and the four of you certainly have a story to tell for the rest of your life. we'd like to thank you so much for joining us today, mark and

crista. please thank your wives and mike and mary. thanks much. have a fantastic rest of the week. >> thank you. >> gretchen: now to other stories. michigan doctor accused of medicare fraud. the doctor is accused of intentional leeing patients with cancer and then ordering chemotherapy for people who didn't need it. prosecutors say he billed medicare for tens of millions of dollars through these treatments. his lawyer says the charges against him are bogus. >> the government has not retained an expert to give an opinion that there was a mistreatment or misdiagnosis or unnecessary tests given to any patient. >> gretchen: he has been in custody since last week. prosecutors believe he is a flight risk. be prepared to show your i.d. to buy nail polish remover now. cvs customers in new england will have to prove they are 18 years old. that's because police say nail polish remover is being used to

make crystal meth in the area. they will put a limit on the number of bottles you can buy. what's in a name? not messiah, apparently. a judge in tennessee made the parents of a 7-month-old boy named messiah change his name. so they went with martin. the judge says the name is for one person only, jesus christ. the mom says she will appeal that decision. those are your headlines. what do you guys think about that? >> i think it's an unfortunate name for a child and probably offensive to christians. on the other hand, i don't know why a judge would tell what you you can name your kid. >> eric: i would agree. >> gretchen: coming up, a mexican drug boss convicted of killing a dea agent, free on technicalities. how can that happen? we'll tell you coming up next. >> tucker: and clint black is here live to perform in just a minute.

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>> eric: this morning a notorious drug lord convicted in the killing of a dea drug act is a free man because mexico released him instead of sending him to the u.s. dave us, he was convicted in mexico, spent 28 years in mexican prison. why did they release him? >> my assessment is this is not the normal judicial process. he's a man of enormous wealth. he still is maybe not active in running day-to-day cartel operations, but still has got network. it's an impoverished country, the kind of money he has can buy anything he wants. >> eric: he had a 40 year sentence. did mexico tell the united states they were about to let out a guy who killed one of our dea agents? >> i'm not sure the mexican agents knew.

because it seems, and i'll give you my initial assess am. it seems that he had somebody in the judiciary who issued an order for his release. they did it in the small hours of the morning. i don't think the mexican authorities outside this judicial process were aware of it. >> eric: okay. so this is raphael quintero. do we know where he is? >> absolutely not. by the way, i think it's important for people to understand that this is a man who not only kidnapped or caused him to be kidnapped, but he was tortured to death over several days. they had a position in attendance to keep him alive to prolong his suffering and the judge that released him knew that. as far as catching him, what's going to happen is they'll try to start working on locations for him and if it's anything like what typically happens, they'll get rid to hit the house and go in, he'll be gone. >> eric: he can come and stand trial here in the united states?

>> absolutely. their worst nightmare for all these cartel bosses is extradition to this country because they can't buy their way out. they'll face u.s. justice. they'll get a sentence and the sentence will stick. >> eric: dave, thank you. up next, the performance from country superstar clint black, but first, let's check in with martha for what's coming up top of the hour. >> hey there. good morning. a big question today is eric holder set to ease up on some drug sentences. karl rove is here and focus on 2016. can you believe it? we're going to get his thoughts on what's going on there. are we overreacting to al-qaeda? ted koppel believes that we are. k.t. is here. we'll talk about that and bill and i will see you at the top of the hour good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories.

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>> gretchen: you know who our next guest is, he's a country superstar with hits like "killing time," now he's release ago new album called" when i said i do" for cracker barrel old country store. it's country superstar clint black and he's back. good to sigh. you're all by yourself, which is fantastic. we get you all to ourselves. >> yeah. a little bit lonely. normally it's a duet with my wife. >> gretchen: that's right. we'll think about her as you're singing it. tell us about this new album. it has new tunes on it, right? >> some revisiting of old songs. the theme is really the love songs, group of my love songs and three new songs which two of them are really about a father's love of his daughter, which i can relate to, of course. and the other one is about a man and a woman and what won't we do for her. >> gretchen: how tough is it for you, because you've been doing this for quite some time, to

write a new song. take you a long time or something that comes right out? >> it depends. when i'm in a creative mode, it comes out quite a lot. but i go in cycles. if i'm touring, i don't write. >> gretchen: right now we'll hear president clinton black. this is a compilation of three songs. >> this is a song i wrote for my wife to duet on. we'll be celebrating or 22nd wedding anniversary this october. i'll dedicate it to her. she couldn't be with us. >> gretchen: that's fantastic. >> the only time i've sung it without her. >> gretchen: wow. here is a tribute to lisa right now. clint black. ♪ these times are trouble ♪ and these times are good

♪ there always gonna be ♪ they rise and they fall ♪ we take them all the way that we should ♪ ♪ together you and me ♪ forsaking them all ♪ deep in the night ♪ and by the light of day ♪ it always looks the same ♪ true love always does ♪ here by your side or a million miles away ♪ ♪ nothing's ever gonna change the way i feel ♪ ♪ the way it is is the way that it was ♪ ♪ when i said i do

♪ i meant that i will ♪ 'til the end of all time ♪ be faithful and true ♪ devoted to you ♪ that's what i had in mind when i said i do ♪ ♪ this whole world keeps changing ♪ ♪ and the world stays the same ♪ for all who came before ♪ and it goes hand in hand ♪ only you and i can undo ♪ all that we became ♪ that makes us so much more than a woman and a man ♪

♪ and after everything ♪ that comes and goes around ♪ has only passed us by ♪ here alone in our dreams ♪ i know there is a lonely heart ♪ ♪ in every lost and found ♪ but forever you and i will be the ones ♪ ♪ who found out what forever means ♪ ♪ when i said i do ♪ i meant that i will ♪ 'til the end of all time ♪ be faithful and true ♪ devoted to you ♪

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>> gretchen: it's been a pleasure to have tucker and eric with me this morning. and of course clint black who will stick around for the after the show show. join us. www.foxandfriends.com. have a great day. bill: good morning, everybody, that 16-year-old girl at the center of this massive man hunt reuniting with her father. hannah anderson was rescues after some ordinary people did an extraordinary thing. martha: it's great to be book. thanks for holding down the fort. good morning, everybody. what a dramatic