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radio. that is always a lot of fun. i will be back for america live today. busy day. bill: look for you then. okay, everybody, have a great day. "happening now" starts right now. catch you on thursday. martha: bye, everybody. jenna: we start off with a fox news alert and a state of emergency declared in egypt today. the acting egyptian government announced this will last one month and be in effect across that country. what that means, the armed force, the military is now ordered to help enforce security. this is following violence as police moved in to break up those camps that have been supporting the former president who is aligned with muslim brotherhood. his name, mohammed morsi. we're getting reports of dozens killed, not only protesters but also police as well as more reports of christians being targeted inside that country. a live report from the middle east moments from now. first right now, brand new stories and breaking news. jon: a disaster for ups to tell
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you about. one of its cargo planes crashing just outside of the airport in birmingham, alabama. there were no survivors. a zoom ba instructor at center of a prostitution scandal in maine is back in court. what a lex sis wright is doing now. hollywood star power making emotional plea. what they want may prevent journalists from doing their jobs. it is all "happening now." jon: we begin this wednesday morning with aftermath of that deadly plane crash in alabama. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. "happening now," federal investigators are now on the scene near birmingham international airport. the faa says this ups cargo jet went down in an open field a half mile short of the runway. the mayor confirming both the
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pilot and the copilot were killed in this crash. the a300 jet was coming from louisville, kentucky. jonathan serrie live from atlanta with more on this. jonathan, what else do we know now? >> reporter: birmingham officials are saying both pilots were killed but they're saying no one on the ground was injured. when you take a look at the crash site, ups flight 1354 crashed into a grassy field near the airport perimeter striking trees and power lines. there were no homes or businesses in the immediate area. a spokesperson for the city of barrel ham said the control tower received no distress calls from the plane prior to the crash. an ntsb spokesperson would not confirm this saying the agency is still in the early stages of its investigation, jenna. jenna: jonathan, do we know what the plane was carrying? what is ups saying today? >> reporter: ups hasn't said exactly what was on board the plane. obviously it was a cargo plane
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so we assume it was carrying page as but it is still unclear whether it was carrying specifically any hazardous materials officials might know b this will be part of the ntsb investigation which is getting underway as we speak. ups has pledged to work with ntsb investigators as they work to determine the cause of the crash of this a300 series cargo jet. the president of ups airlines issued a written statement moments ago, saying, quote, this incident is very unfortunate and our thoughts and prayers are with those involved. now, jenna, as i pointed out while there were no homes in the immediate area it is possible that some private property may have been in the debris field. so local officials are urging residents, if they happen to find any fragments of the plane, to leave it alone and wait until ntsb investigators can properly recover these pieces as part of
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their ongoing investigation, jenna. jenna: fast-moving, developing story, jonathan. thank you very much. >> reporter: certainly. jon: now, this fox news alert. deadly violence in egypt spiraling out of control as police backed by armored cars and bulldozers stormed two sit-in camps packed with supporters of ousted president mohammed morse system those protest% i should say fight back. leland vittert live in jerusalem with more on this trouble. leland. >> reporter: jon, we're just a couple of hours away now from a military-imposed cure few there in cairo and in much of egypt as violence continues disintegrating into running street battles. how many dead depends on who you believe. the health ministry says about 100, where news agencies says that numbers the muslim brotherhood said up to 2,000 of its supporters have been killed in this violence. it started this morning when the egyptian army made a move
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against two main protest camps. the protesters had been there for weeks now protesting the coup a month 1/2 ago that ousted mow hahm morsi the democratically elected president in egypt. the army said a week ago, it is time to go home. this is over. protesters said, oh, no, we're not. that is when the violence began. armored vehicles came in. security forces tried to chase down members of the muslim brotherhood. if you look at some of the video we have supplied by the army, it disputes the claim by the muslim brotherhood that these have been all peaceful protests. it appears to show members of the muslim brotherhood firing at security forces, firing at the police and the army, not only on the ground video but also video from helicopters that showed gunmen in and among the rock throwers being used to try to hold off the army from storming into these camps. we have no way of confirming what this is except to tell you what the egyptian army purports
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it to be. there are case of church burnings by muslim brotherhood supporters throughout egypt. the cop tick christians are big supporters of the army. these are seen as revenge church burnings inside egypt. muslim brotherhood supporters on the ground are chanting rightnoh that we defend islam. th is what appears over couple days may happen as many, many more deaths on the streets of cairo and some of the other cities where these protests spread through. throughout the afternoon, jon, a police source and army source is telling a pro-military television station in egypt, quote, extreme measures are coming to bring calm to the streets of cairo. what those are we're not sure. we at least have a curfew. whether that means there will be tanks on the street come sunrise in cairo, only time will tell. jon: a restive population in egypt it seems. leland vittert from jerusalem, thank you. we'll be talking much more about the growing unrest in egypt with
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ambassador john bolton. he is coming up at the bottom of the hour. jenna: now we're going back to washington, d.c. some new information on the scandal surrounding the irs for allegedly targeting tea party groups seeking tax-exempt status. members of the house oversite committee are demanding access to personal emails from irs official lois learner. they suspect she sent work-related emails through her private account and they think that may help them in their investigation. doug mckelway has more from washington. so, doug, what's the big deal? can someone send personal emails through a personal email accounts while also working for the government? >> reporter: well, there's a bit after fine line there. it may be illegal. that's what they want to find out. that is certainly but one of the reasons that the house oversight committee is requesting lois learner turn over all official correspondence and documents in her private account. the letter sent to her says, quote the fact that it appears lois home is saved in your irs
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email account raises concerns that you have sent irs documents to at least one non-official email address and you may have conducted official business using non-official accounts. >> here's the lady who took the fifth and wouldn't answer congress's questions, wouldn't answer to the american people. and now we learn she is conducting official business on a personal account. in essence, potentially hiding it from the taxpayers, hiding it from the american people. we want all her e-mails, every single email, deals anything with this scandal, we want that information. >> reporter: the letter to learner requests that she send all personal correspondence from official duties january 1st, 2008 until the present. they want those emails no later than 5:00 p.m. on the 2th of this month, jenna we'll we'll mark the date and see what happens at that time, doug. the irs is being sued by some conservative groups as well. they were also seeking tax-exempt status. what's the latest on that?
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>> reporter: jay sekulow who represents 41 plaintiffs who were targeted by the irs for extra scrutiny, said he had to amend his lawsuit many times already, every time he amend it, damaging new information comes out that forces him to amend it yet again. these emails potentially raise a new question. >> i asked one question, why? why would you send those documents to your personal email account? now, i could be sinister which i don't think is being sinister at all, are you sharing those with people who shouldn't have access to them and you didn't want to send them through your government account? >> reporter: lerner's lawyer said this could be granted if they grant her immunity from prosecution. the committee needs to know more about what she has to say before that can happen. jenna: doug, thank you. jon: concerns are growing over the effects of obamacare will have on millions of americans and while the sweeping reform will touch everyone in this
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country, each person's experiences and costs will vary quite dramatically. that's because states are rolling out the new health care law in very different ways. some are setting up their own insurance marketplaces. many more are leaving it all up to the federal government and a few others will partner with the feds on a subsidized plan. so as states deal with implementing these exchanges and enrolling customers, they are also trying to juggle last minute delays coming down from on top. the white house adding to its laundry list of problems with the president's signature law, most recently postponing a cap that is supposed to limit your own out-of-pocket costs. coming up our panel weighs in on the mounting troubles for obamacare and what they mean for getting that program off the ground. jenna: that's a big story there. also a big story coming out of the south today. we're getting new information on a deadly standoff in louisiana. police say a 20-year-old suspect, took three bank employees hostage yesterday. he released one.
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after more than 12 hours he shot the other two, killing one and leaving the other in critical condition. that is when police moved in and they killed him. now we're learning more about the suspect. police say he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and believed something had been implanted in his head. >> he was mad at people that were, he said, were mean to him. that he, he had voices in his head. jenna: it isn't clear why the young man decided to target the bank but investigators found detailed notes written by the suspect that say robbery was not his intentions. jon: we are awaiting important developments in a high-profile perjury trial. a georgia widow accused of lying under oath about an affair with her boss that led to her husband's murder. will she take the stand in her own defense? the latest on the andrea schneiderman trial. the dow is down 86 points.
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still the bull market is showing no major signs of retreating despite all the budgetary dysfunction in washington. so what's going on? how long can we expect the good times to last? we'll ask a senior columnist with yahoo! finance next. are you flo?
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jon: right now, new information on some crime stories we're keeping an eye on. bradley manning could take the stand today in the sentencing phase of his court-martial. the former intelligence analyst convicted of leaking secret information faces up to 90 years behind bars. we could also find out whether a georgia widow accused of perjury will steak the stand in her own defense today. investigators say andrea schneiderman lied under oath about an affair to her boss that led to her husband's murder. the autopsy confirms the
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body of a woman found last week near a california park is missing federal investigator sandra koch. so far no word what caused her death. jenna: now to the market and to your money as well. we take a look at stocks trending slightly lower. still some are wondering why this bull market is bucking a long-standing tendency right now, surging despite all the dysfunction in that building right there when normally we see some effect of all that drama when we take a look at stocks. from the federal spending cuts to the upcoming debt ceiling fight expected this fall is this a trend that will continue? mike santoli, senior columnist with yahoo! finance. he wrote a piece entitled, is wall street immune to d.c. dysfunction? if only we were all were, mike, d.c. dysfunction. what do you think is happening with the markets now? stocks seem to be on their own track. why? >> they are. only have to go back to november, december last year
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with the fiscal cliff fight and market was related to everything related to that fight. so, really you go back 40 years. it is actually an interesting dynamic. stocks do better on days when congress is in recession than when it is in session. very dramatic effect. has not held up this year. what is going on. sequester kicked in. it side shrined congress in general because they weren't going to touch automatic spending cuts. we know what the status is and didn't hurt the economy as much as was feared. stocks are normalizing based on what the corporate earnings picture looks like. jenna: the reason we're asking the question, because in anticipation of what comes up next few weeks. we'll be back to that point again, debt ceiling, budget battles, health care, government shutdown. >> yeah. jenna: folks want to know in anticipation of that what should i do with my money now? what would you say to someone with those concerns? >> i think it is maybe a little too much to ask the market continue to tune it out simply because all of a sudden the
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stakes will be higher. all the things you mentioned, debt ceiling fight, vows to close the government down. and you have a bad he will brewing who will be the next federal reserve chairman. whoever is nominated by the president will probably deal with a tough confirmmation fight. you have an outgoing fed chairman in january. all these things are kind of in this little cauldron in washington. so i do think there's a chance the market uses that as an excuse to get a little more nervous, being up 15 or 16% year-to-date. jenna: some are also saying stocks are way overvalued right now despite any sort of impact, any sort of veil. what do you think that type of talk that these record highs are not sustainable? >> honestly i don't think you can objectively say they're outright overvalued compared to anything you could put your money in. stocks are no longer cheap. they have been going up four 1/2 years. we're at record highs. is the first record high in 13 years. it is not as if they have been
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runaway hits for a decade the way they were in the '90s. i think it is not particularly attractive to feel like you're buying the all-time highs. i don't think we're in bubble zone. jenna: you hear what everyone is saying right? oh, back close to 2007 again. >> yes. jenna: that makes people nervous. >> thing is, companies have had record profits for the next three years. what is going on now the market is almost after the fact paying off for what companies have shown which they're in pretty good financial shape. jenna: what are you going to be watching, right? congress is in recess. stocks are down which is not typical. we're seeing reversal. when congress isn't there the stocks have been rocky. how explain that? there is no correlation. >> they talk august and september and often are tough months for the market. everyone will watch the kind of budget noise but i don't think the market will fix eight on it too closely until we're up against a deadline. that is the lesson we learned in 2011 and last year.
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nothing gets done except a lost noise until there's a deadline. jenna: that is frustrating. tough to watch your stocks when that happens. we'll see if wall street is immune and new trend. you're on to it. >> i don't know if immune but a little bit resistant. jenna: we'll take that. mike, thank you very much. jon? jon: a controversial name being floated as a possibility to be the next leader of afghanistan. we'll tell you who president hamid karzai is reportedly throwing his support behind and the ties this guy has to one of the world's most notorious terrorists. plus the problems seem to keep piling up when it comes to implementing obamacare. our legal panel weighs in on the latest roadblock and the roleout's ongoing issues. what makes your family smile?
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jenna: well this just in. the president of afghanistan, the current president, is reportedly backing a man with past ties to one of the world's most notorious terrorists as the country's next leader. president hamid karzai meeting with other afghan politicians this week to discuss his possible successor and he is is reportedly asked them to throw support behind a former islamist warlord who is credited withbrio their country back in the 1990s. this same man also inspired terrorist groups around the world from the philippines to pakistan and ran training camps to train future jihad its. this man allegedly has no ties to al qaeda anymore. again, allegedly, has been viewed by some as a u.s. ally since the 2000 one invasion because of his opposition to the taliban. but as we know al qaeda, the taliban, separate groups. his candidacy is far from
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certain. many western diplomats say this could be a very unsettling choice. a report at this time but a story we're certainly watching here on "happening now." jon: new information now on the mount r mounting programs for obamacare as the white house postpones yet another provision of the law months ahead of its implementation. this delay hurting consumers. the administration will give some employers and insurers a pass when it comes to limiting your out-of-pocket costs. and it is just the latest in a long list of troubles ahead of the rollout. charlie hirt is a columnist for "the washington times." joe trippi, a former howard dean campaign manager and a fox news contributor who will talk to us about the implications of all this. let's start with you, charlie. this was a, a provision that caps what you're going to have to spend out-of-pocket, if you're a single person, 6350,
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$6350 a year, trace that for a married couple but now that limit has been ited why? >> well, basically what the administration is figuring out is that they don't, there is not a simple way of knowing, having enough information about how much you're actually spending. which lead to a whole huge massive problem with obamacare and that is, the amount of personal information that the federal government need to vacuum up about personal medical information no less, about every single individual in the country who is on obamacare in order for obamacare to be sort of carried out properly and that's why they have to sort of delay this for another year. the funny thing about it, this goes to show what happens when congress pass as law they didn't read before they passed it. jon: we have to pass it to find out what is in, right, joe? >> that's right. >> the reason is, the insurers kept telling the administration
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that they could not get their computer systems working at times, set up the software systems, to collect the out-of-pocket expense reports that they need to collect to implement the program. so, again, this is such a massive change in the economy, 20% of the economy. it is going to take a lot longer i think and have problems along the way but that's the reason the administration is doing this. jon: well, but, somebody, charlie, could have thought about all of this before they, you know, tried to impose all of these rules? >> oh, absolutely. and quite frankly i will admit that i slightly more cynical view than joe does but you know, the way i see it is, that we have all these delays of expense seven provisions of obamacare and of course this one is expensive because whenever you put these kinds of caps on things that will drive the cost of insurance up. that will cost, drive the amount that insurers charge on the
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exchange up and so that's another reason why it is important to delay it until they can work out all of the kinks. but all the provisions that are being delayed right now are provisions that are going to cost individuals more money. it is going to make their lives worse. and i would argue, the president was very shrewd in making sure none of this kicked in until after he, safely won re-election. jon: yeah. >> now it looks like he is waiting until at least democrats get through the next election or he is just long gone. then it will be left dealing with all the broken pieces. jon: and joe, i already know how charlie feels about this but we talked about this particular aspect on this program before, the fact that congress, republicans in congress insisted if we were going to pass this obamacare and make the entire country live under its rules, that had to apply to congressman and their staffs as well. well then they found a way to get the government to pay for the coverage of the,
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congressional staffs. what do you think about that politically, joe? >> well, i mean, the optics aren't good but that is not kind of what happened here. what happened was, they, they basically said that the government is an employer. that the employees, could have their employer pay into the program just like every company that has over 50 employees does. and so it is basically, they are being treated the same as anybody else who works for a large company. it is just the way they did it and the delay to put it, you know, to get, to make sure that it was clear within the regulations was confusing and bad optics. it looks like congress is, you know, let, went to work for its staff but it's doing exactly what every company should do under the program. jon: charlie, i suspect you see it differently? >> at the end of the day the big difference is members of congress and their staff will be the only people who are enrolled
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in the exchanges in obamacare in the country whose insurance is still paid for by their employers. if you're a private employer, you're kicked off and you get kicked off because of the health care government sponsored, i mean employer sponsored health care because of obamacare you're paying your own premiums. but if you work for congress, the federal government, your employer is still paying those premiums for you. that's the difference. jon: all right, charlie hurt, joe trippi. thank you both. >> thanks. >> good to be with you. jenna: overseas there is a lot of growing violence in egypt today. the u.n. says it appears hundreds of people were wounded or fighting between the military and pro-morsi demonstrators. a lot of developments on this story. ambassador john bolton is here next for what it means for the united states as well. the financially struggling u.s. postal service with a plan to improve service now. what boos has to do with it.
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>> major hasan continues today in texas. he's accused of killing 13 people at fort hood. yesterday a federal investigator who responded to the 2009 rampage described a gruesome scene with medical equipment all over the floor saying there was so much evidence that agents ran out of markers and had to use sticky notes just to mark everything. also the president, he's on vacation today at martha's vineyard. we're getting a briefing from principal deputy secretary that is on going as you see the live picture there and he issued a statement condemning the violence in egypt. we'll talk about that in a moment. plus a deadly plane crash outside the airport in birmingham, alabama. the latest has investigators looking into what brought the cargo plane down later today.
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>> fox news has a conference call going on right for you. the postmaster general said the delivery of alcoholic beverage $ on his wish list as the agency considers ways to raise revenue after losing $16 billion in the last fiscal year and faces billions more this year. he said the change could raise as much as $50 million a year for the postal service. in an interview with the associated press earlier this month, he said, quote, there's a lot of money to be made in beer, wine and spirits. we would like to be in that business. right now, u.p.s. and fed ex have a lock on the business. the postal service has been banned from delivering alcoholic beverages since 1909. that's when congress passed the law in apparent response to the growing temperance movement then that led to prohibition. the government affairs committee
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introduced bipartisan commission to change the law. if the agency is allowed to start shipping booze, it would need to create new rules to make sure alcoholic beverages are not sent to those under 21 years of age and the service would have to comply with state laws governing the shipments of alcohol. jon: it seems like it would be difficult for the mail carrier to make sure that he's not deliver to go underage drinkers. >> right. so the postmaster says that the way around that is to make sure that people pick up their shipments at their local post office where we presume they would get carded. jon: and presumably congress could scotch this whole thing if they want to, right, peter? >> we could keep coming up with great puns on this one all day, jon. jon: we'll keep it going. peter barnes in washington, thank you. jenna: state of emergency declared in egypt as deadly
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violence gets simply out of control. the fightest threatening to rip apart an already divided country. latest chapter of violence beginning when police made good on a promise to clear two pro mosri sitting camps this morning firing tear gas at protestors. gunshots heard from both sides. morsi supporters are fighting back. they've been reportedly targeting churches where christians worship. three houses of worship burned to the ground today alone. john bolton is the former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. we continue to continue to use words like unrest and protest and demonstrations. we've used those words for years now when it comes to unrest, if you will, in egypt. is this a civil war? >> well, it's not a civil war yet but here is the brute reality. this violence was going to happen as long as the muslim brotherhood, in effect, had parts of cairo, the largest city in egypt, made into no go zones
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for people who weren't part of the muslim brotherhood. you're not going to have stability in egypt until the government can govern. if you don't have that stability, you're not going to have additional investment. egypt's economy will continue to decline and i think that was the choice the government saw and the muslim brotherhood forced the choice. the voice is regrettable for sure but nobody should be under any i willusionillusions. as long as the brotherhood kept to its course, it was going to happen. >> two headlines i'm seeing right now, one is from reuters. it's a report that the muslim brotherhood members have shot dead four policemen in cairo. the other is a wire that is coming from the press briefing we showed the viewers happening on martha's vineyard and the white house spokesman telling reporters that the president's message to egypt is that the military leaders need to respect the basic human rights of the
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egyptian people. no comments i'm seeing about pro morsi or muslim brotherhood protestors. >> yeah. don't get me wrong. i think the military government should respect people's basic human rights as well. but this is not scarsdale or new jersey or southern connecticut. this is a very fragmented society and the muslim brotherhood is not a typical political party as we understand that term in the united states. it's just as much an armed militia as it is a political party. maybe more so. and it's got a clear determination, it wants to impose its version of the right kind of religious law on egypt and fundamental it will doesn't care about democracy itself. it did use democratic processes to gain power but had no intention of relinquishing it. we're in a situation where fine distinctions about human rights found very good but the reality in egypt is simply not conducive
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to that kind of academic discussion. as i say, if you're going to get stability in egypt, which the brotherhood did not want to allow the government to get, it wanted to question the government's legitimacy, it was going to continue in the course that inevitably brought us to the point we're at now. >> what's our priority in egypt? >> well, i don't think our priority is the internal governing instructions of egypt at this point and i don't think, frankly, we have much influence over the way this is playing out. i think our priority has to be finding american interests. we want a government in ee kwipt that would uphold the camp david peace agreement with israel. that's been the foundation of american foreign policy in the region since 1979. muslim brotherhood assassinated sadat who reached those agree manies and for 30 years has been opposed to them. i don't think a muslim
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brotherhood government is going to give us the camp david agreements for much longer. the military would. second, we want the suez canal to stay open. this instability ultimately will threaten the canal, i think. and that will have extraordinarily detrimental impact on europe, the united states, not to mention egypt itself. jenna: interesting font page story on the "wall street journal" today about how the acting government in ee kwipt is working with israel today to go after terrorists in the sinai peninsula for precisely the reasons you mentioned. it's an interesting partnership that many are watching to see if that's a sign of what the next egyptian government looks like. we would love to have you back to talk more about that well. it's a big one for all of us but appreciate your time today. thank you. >> thank you. jon: a zumba instructor busted for her side job as a prostitute could be called to testify against a suspected john. well, our legal panel looks at
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jon: breaking news out of maine. zumba instructor who moon lighted as a madam is expected back in court. alexis wright is serving a 10 month sentence for prostitution and nearly all of her suspected johns have pleaded guilty or no contest. but the trial is beginning for a former high school coach who is fighting the charges against him. prosecutors want wright to testify against the defendant but they expect she's going to plead the fifth.
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on our legal panel today, criminal defense attorney and also tad wilson, a former prosecutor. this is a strangity ratie ititi iteration of this case. most of the men have pleaded guilty or no contest but donald hill says he's going to fight the charges. in order to prosecute him, the prosecutors have said we want alexis wright to testify against him. now, what does she do if she goes to court? >> bottom line is, jon, there's nothing she can do. if she's going to come to court and try to plead the fifth, the government says you have to testify. we can't use a word you say against you. here is what happens if she refuses at that time. she'll be held in contempt, she'll get additional jail time and sanctions. the other thing she could do is
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go and lie. now if she lies, then they have the perjury charge. she has no choice. she will testify as the government wants her or she will pay consequences. it's that simple. jon: so does she get blanket protection? >> absolutely not. todd, i would have to respectfully disagree. this is a state court prosecution. the only immunity she has been grnted is for state court proceedings. as we all know, the federal government is a different sovereign. she could be charged with a federal crime but more importantly, the real issue here is this is not a situation where she's incurring favor with the prosecution. sh is a situation where she's in the process of doing jail time and more importantly, the prosecutor has the ability to control what is truthful testimony. so she's in a no-win situation if she does testify. so here, her best bet is keep
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her mouth shut. jon: she's already facing some tax penalties for non payment of taxes but what interest would the federal government have in going after this woman? >> let's look at it this way. what interest does the state court have in prosecuting a john on a misdemeanor? anything is possible. the federal government can get her, charge her with wire fraud if possible. that's a nice catch all they could charge her with which is a possibility. but realistically here, this is a waste of taxpayer money. what we have here is an overzealous prosecutor who is looking to make a splash in the paper and looking to proceed on a misdemeanomisdemeanor. jon: if he were your client, what would you tell him? >> well, you know, i don't know his facts. i don't know what -- but anybody that's not guilty of something
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deserves the right to say not guilty. however, the problem here is when i was listening to joe talk, it was like, wow. i mean, it's a misdemeanor. i understand that. but we can't allow that to go unpunished and the government has a witness who is reluctant to testify. the government has a letter that says we will not seek additional prosecution of her. let her testify with use immunity. this is a no brainer. we can't look the only way because it's only misdemeanor charges. that's not appropriate. jon: you're saying if she's put on the stand, she has to get up there under this use immunity and say, yes, this guy slept with me for money. >> if they can prove it and she says he didn't, then she has perjury to look at and she has additional jail and additional sanctions. jon: we have to run. we'll leave it there. thank you. jenna: that sounds like a reality show but we actually have to talk about a real reality show.
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i don't know if that's -- jon: if there is such a thing. jenna: if there is such a thing. a real life reality show couple facing some very serious charges. the latest on that out of federal court today coming up next.
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>> what's happening now, a reality check for reality tv. a couple from the real housewives of new jersey facing a lot of prison time if convicted on fraud charges. nothing funny here. julie is live with more. >> yeah. well, apparently the jersey reality stars are in for a dose of harsh reality today when they'll be arraigned in federal court on fraud charges. guidices are expected to enter not guilty pleas during what is
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expected to be a short proceeding at 2:30 this afternoon. you may remember their first must watched court appearance last month when they were charged on 39 counts, an indictment with conspiracy to commit bank fraud, making false statements on loan applications and bankruptcy fraud. the couple is accused of conspiring to fraudulently obtain millions of dollars in loans and mortgages and of hiding significant assets and income during a two-year bankruptcy proceeding. one example of the alleged deceit, according to the charges, teresa falsely claimed on a $121,500 mortgage application in 2001 that she worked for four years for modern era investment corp earning $3750 a month. she was unemployed from 2001 to 2008. husband joe was also accused of not filing tax returns from the years 2004 to 2008. at that time he allegedly earned nearly a million dollars prior to their tv show launch in 2009.
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joe also faces separate charges of falsely obtaining a driver's license. he faces deportation as he's an italian citizen. not looking go ahead for these two. both remain free on $500,000 bonds each and under travel restrictions to only new york and new jersey. if convicted they could both face dozens of years in prison. i've heard numbers upwards of 50 if they got the book slammed at them. still no word from bravo who pays their real lives. jenna: thank you. jon: sleep aids, millions of americans use them to try to get a better night's rest but now the feds are taking a new look at how they impact folks when they wake up, specifically behind the wheel. some important information for you just ahead. but we're tracking a raging wildfire out west. already it has taken a heavy toll on one popular resort town. a live report on that just minutes away. my name is lee kaufman.
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jon: a fox news alert. we've been telling you about the deadly violence unfolding across ee combigy egypt. right now hundreds dead. after police in armored vehicles stormed camps of morsi supporters in cairo, seen here a mob pushing an armored police vehicle off an overpass. egypt's government declaring a state of emergency and slapping a month long nighttime curfew on cairo and 10 provinces. the white house is condemning the crackdown. we're expecting to hear from the state department later on "happening now." meantime, we're also hearing that interim vice president has resigned.jon, this is clearly a protest by the vice president
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saying, quote, on state television, there are many more peaceful ways to end this, meaning the muslim brotherhood protests. he is sign as a grandfatherly figure within egyptian politics. he came back and joined the 2011 revolution that gave a lot of legitimacy there to the protestors a couple of years ago and he's joining the 2013 coup that happened about six weeks ago, also gave the government a lot of legitimacy. the fact he's resigning here now could mean that the government there, at least the civilian part of the government and the army within egypt, are having a major split that's something that could be very dangerous. inside egypt is obviously the violence on the streets is increasing. jon: keep an eye on it for us. thank you. jenna: we have brand new stories and breaking news this hour. the new obamacare controversy
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from a study on how much it will cost you to concerns about the real goal of the massive health care overhaul. we're live with that story. also the nuclear club growing around the world. how can we make sure terror groups don't get their hands on the bomb? we're going to go in depth on that. plus a wakeup call about popular sleeping aids. dangers you may face hours after you take them as the f.d.a. now weighs in on their safety. we have brand new developments in the obamacare. great to have you with us today, everybody. jon: welcome to the second hour of "happening now." fallout today from the delays and the rollout of the president's signature piece of domestic legislation. the massive health care overhaul and it comes amid a brand new study how much you could be shelling out for your health insurance once obamacare kicks
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in. about half the people won't be paying sticker price for the preez y -- premiums of the new plans. 48% of families would be eligible to tax credits to the tune of $5,000 per family. but if you don't get those tax credits, get ready to dig deeper because you will be paying more for the policies offered through new state insurance markets. all this amid new reaction today to the series of delays plaguing the launch of obamacare. charlie with the washington times charges politics definitely played a role. >> all the provisions that are being delayed right now are provisions that are going to cost individuals more money. it's going to make their lives worse. and i would argue, the president was very sure in making sure none of this kicked in until after he safely won re-election. jon: but the former campaign manager for howard dean says another reason for the delay. >> this is such a massive change
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in the economy, 20% of the economy. it's going to take a lot longer, i think, and have problems along the way but that's the reason the administration is doing this. jenna: and speaking of obamacare, recent remarks by the top democratic in the senate what he believes is the true goal of the new health care law is now stirring up a lot more controversy. our chief national correspondent is live on that side of the story. jim? >> good morning. well, senate democratic leader harry reid made clear what conservatives have long suspected, that he and other democrats, including the president and key officials, the obamacare is seen as a stepping stone to single player government controlled health care. listen. >> don't think we didn't have a tremendous number of people who wanted single systems. we weren't able to give the majority of the vote z. i'm all
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for a single payer system eventually. i think what we have to do is work with what we've got to close the gap. >> president obama said also in 2003 that he favored single payer but knew he might not be able to get there immediately so what do people mean when they use the term single payer? listen. >> what they really mean is putting everybody into one big government insurance program and almost always on the left they're talking about medicare. >> but medicare is tens of trillions of dollars in the hole so many argue that's not the way to go. appear lists note that single payer systems in other countries hold down costs by rationing care. listen. >> if you look to, say, great britain, there's about 115,000 people there today who have been waiting longer than 18 weeks for administration to the hospital n. canada, waiting list to get in to see a physician of your choice can be as many as 800,000 people at any one time.
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>> the typical wait for a normal procedure in canada is four months. for a hip replacement or knee replacement, the wait is 10 months. some wait more than a year for a knee replacement. >> so nations that have tried single payer systems have to ration care to hold down the costs. the supreme court of canada even ruled that some people died because they were on a waiting list and could not get care. those may be some of the reasons, jenna, that those pushing a single payer system have been unable to round up the votes to put it into law. jenna: we continue to watch the story. thank you. jon: now let's take a look at the white house race for 2016. on the democratic side, it sure looks like hillary clinton is the one to beat. but her early frontrunner status could actually hurt her. dan, chief political correspondent for "the washington post" writes the danger for clinton is the same as it was when she ran the first time. she'll be seen as so strong at
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the beginning that there will be risks of risk-free campaign. one of your columns recently was titled, will hillary clinton be ready in 2016. answer that question for us. will she? >> we don't know the answer to that question. i mean, it looks like these heading toward the starting line. she hasn't made a formal decision but here is the question for her. she has a tremendous resume, one of the best of anybody in politics and anybody certainly who is thinking about running in 2016. but as her husband has said, campaigns are not about the past. they are about the future. i think the challenge for her is to find a way to become the candidate for the future and not simply an extension of the obama administration or even a
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restoration of the bill clinton presidency. jon: one of the things you point to is that there might be too many cooks in hillary clinton's campaign kitchen. >> she had a very contentious team in 2008. if you look at that operation in comparison to the so-called no drama obama campaign team of 2008, there wasn't much comparison. her campaign was right with internal and she let that happen. some of the mistakes they made may have cost her the nomination battle against barack obama. she has a tremendous pool of talent upon which she can draw the clinton network. it's big and broad and deep but she'll have to make a choice about how to structure her campaign and how to staff it with people who are up to date in terms of the modern techniques of presidential politics. jon: when they are husband was president, she was given the job of trying to bring in health care reform.
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it was a job that ultimately went nowhere. but now that we've got health care reform titled nder kaish call it obamacare, affordable care act, whatever you want, if that proves not to be popular, and again, there are signs that this thing is the train wreck that max boccas said it would be, is that going to hurt her potentially as she runs, having served in the president's first term? >> well, i think it's far too early to know whether it is or isn't going to be the train wreck that some people are suspecting that it could be. obvious it will has problems of implementation but we're a long way between the implementation of that and when she will have to either take responsibility for it or defend it or not. so i think she has plenty of time to watch as this plays out. she was at the state department rather than at h.s.s. or in the white house so she's got a little maneuvering room and time to watch this play out.
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jon: chief political correspondent for "the washington post," thanks. >> thank you. jenna: unfortunately we probably have all come to expect some sort of fee, extra fee when we fly. everything from checked bags to carry-ones and cancellation fees. but now we're learning that we could start to expect the same kind of treatment when we check into a hotel? how could that be? elizabeth mcdonald joins us live. what have hotels cooked up now? >> looks like hotels are taking a cue from the airline industry and cooking up a whole new barrage of surprising fees that customers may have never seen before. they may do well to check out their bill when they leave the hotel because there are some surprises that are in store. look at these new fees that are hitting hotel customers. this is according to a study from new york university. you're seeing fees tore bell hop services, early departure fees and even early check-in fees.
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use of the resort, meaning the resort fee, the internet connection use, we're also seeing new charges for caps lags fees and even to restock the mini bar. jenna: the mini bar? >> the mini bar. jenna: so there's the obvious reason that hotels, companies, they always want to find another way to make more money. but is there any other reason why the hotels are making this decision? >> yeah. what we're seeing is basically hotel fees took off in 1997 and have increased citiedly to $2.1 billion. that's a fraction of the $6 billion in fees that airlines will charge you but there's also another reason the convection business is also exploded meaning that there are more conventions that are booked at hotels and there's a lack of supply of rooms for those big conventions so all sorts of customers, not just convention customers, are seeing their hotel fees go up.
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and also, join a loyalty program. you may be able to avoid the fee if you join a hotel loyalty program. jenna: i'll come to you afterwards to see which ones you belong to. thank you very much. >> sure. jon: now that fox news alert, sources are telling fox that the website of the "new york times" is under cyber attack. a quick attempt to reach the website through various portals results in a service denial message. "new york times" workers have been huldzing with outside security experts to assess the threat. the company has been the victim of repeated cyber attacks but until now had been able to successfully deflect the attacks. we'll keep you updated what's going on. jenna: interesting development there. wildfire alert is issued across the west as fast moving flames race towards hundreds of homes. how crews are trying to stop the infernos before it's too late. we'll be live with that big story from out west and also a deadly submarine explosion.
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hundreds of others and that's sparking evacuations. >> there's a lot of people in tears, a lot of people scared. we sat there and watched the front side of the mountain towards the lakeside, a lot of homes burning. >> whole side of the mountain was on fire. >> it's devastating. it's horrible to see. >> what do you grab first? wind was coming right at us. jenna: that wildfire in utah is just one of 35 currently burning across the west. here is the latest for us. >> hi, jenna. governor says that two black hawk helicopters are being brought in to fight this fire burning near park city, utah. it was a lightning strike that ignited this one. it is moving incredibly first, tearing through a dozen primary homes northeast of the resort town. governor ptold residents that everything that can be done is being done. >> in spite of the loss of the homes and property, which we're
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very much concerned about and our hearts are broken for those who have lost it, you know, i'm just so impressed as i've looked over the area and see how much they've preserved which is remarkable when you look at the steepness of the terrain, the fast fire, the wind gusts this afternoon up to 50 miles an hour. these guys have done some great work. >> in idaho, one of the country's biggest wildfires continues to march through land and at least 53 structures in the resort community of fall creek. 173 square mile fire is threatening two residential areas right now and the cause of a fire burning near glenwood springs, colorado is unclear and evacuation orders are underway. it is a remote area but it's the wind that makes it such a threat and something that crews are working on to contain which at last check was at just 10% and firefighters say it looks like 20 structures are threatened and
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again, it's that wind that really is the boss here because firefighters are trying to work within that range of rough terrain and the winds and the fire can really just goat any t. so dangerous. jenna: hopefully we get a change in conditions there as you mentioned. thank you. jon: millions of americans take them every night to try to get a better night's sleep but those z's could harm you and obviously others the next day. the down side of sleeping aids. doctors are taking a closer look next. plus egypt on fire. what is being done to protect the thousands of americans in that country amid a violent crackdown and lots of unrest.
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jon: it is often said as egypt goes, so goes the middle east and right now a lot of trouble in egypt. death toll is rising there as we await a state department briefing. hundreds reportedly killed or wounded in clashes between heavily ampled security forces and supporters of morsi. white house is condemning the violent crackdown. listen. >> we have repeatedly called on the egyptian military examine security forces to show restraint and for the government to respect the universal rights of its citizens just as we've urged protestors to demonstrate peacefully. jon: egypt's interim president declared a state of emergency there. this as the interim vice president just resigned. our embassy in egypt now closed there. a british news photographer
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among those killed along with the teenage daughter of a senior muslim brotherhood leader. jenna: millions of americans use them to get a better night's sleep but right now the f.d.a. is taking an extra look at many popular sleep aids over concerns that effects of the drugs linger well into the next day and the big concern is whether folks who take them to sleep at night can drive safely the next morning. a physician and professor of public health at johns hopkins joins us now. so doctor, 60 million prescriptions for sleep aids last year in the united states alone and the f.d. achl says there's some new evidence they're taking a look at. why the sudden interest in all of this? >> well, if you look at the problem of prescription drug abuse, about one in five americans now takes or has taken a prescription medication for a non medical reason and after painkillers, sleep medications are number two. a lot of doctors have concerns. a lot of doctors are concerned
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that these stay in your system into the next day and they can cause daytime sleepiness and hazards on the road. jenna: in your professional opinion, is it more dangerous to have someone on the road who hasn't slept at all, extremely sleep deprived or someone who has taken a sleep aid to go to sleep 12 hours earlier? >> that's a gret question and probably the number one call i get on the cell phone is from a friend or friend of a friend who wants a sleep pill to sleep better. and the reason i don't recommend that they take it is because sometimes if you're not properly evaluated, it can make your sleep worse. many times sleep problems are from bad air flow or what we call sleep apnea. if you take a sleep medicine on top of that, your air flow is going to be worse. so there are a lot of concerns people have about this blanket assessment that if you have trouble sleeping, a sleep pill will make it better. jenna: is the problem with the
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pills themselves, how they interact with people's bodies or the lack of personalization? if i got a prescription for sleep aid, maybe my husband could get the same prescription and we're obviously different sizes, different ages and maybe it needs to be more personalized for patients rather than a generic prescription for everyone. >> i think it's the latter. just as you say, it should be customized to every individual. we know from this 2011 report from the f.d.a. that the general recommended dose for a sleep medication should be about half of what it has been and women can only take about half a dose and have the same effect. so it should be personalized. there's a lot you can do to help your sleep. jenna: that sounds like a good point for viewers to take into consideration. when it comes to sleep and also driving the next morning, are sleep aids the only things we should be concerned about? what about allergy medication? what about cold medication? a lot of those medications you can just simply buy over the counter, tell you that it will
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help you sleep. should we be concerned about that or how concerned should we be? >> most are non sedating. those are benadryl are sedating. keep good air flow, minimize noise and try not to do things that stimulate your mind just before you go to bed. jenna: that's the hard part. do you sleep well, doctor? >> i sleep about six hours a night and i do all those things and somehow, i think i make out okay. jenna: i can't put down the blackberry. i just have to check one more headline. that's why the team gets late emails at 11:00 at night and they think i'm a psychopath. we all have our own issues, doctor. thank you so much as always. >> good to be with you. jon: give me the blackberry. jenna: i can't help myself. you don't want to miss anything, right? jon: stop it. knock it off. jenna: bad news.
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jon: president obama made reducing the world stocks of nuclear weapons a priority, he said. but next you'll hear from critics who say that vision is in a, quote, sham bells and what it could mean for our national security examine we're awaiting dramatic testimony in the fort hood shooting case as pathologists are set to give out autopsy results. hey linda! what are you guys doing? having some fiber! with new phillips' fiber good gummies. they're fruity delicious! just two gummies have 4 grams of fiber! to help support gularity! i want some... [ woman ] hop on over! [ marge ] fiber the fun way, from phillips'.
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>> i state clearly and with conviction, america's commitment to seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons. [cheers and applause] i'm not naive. this goal will not be reached quickly. perhaps not in my lifetime. it will take patience and persistent but now we too must ignore the voices who tell us that the world can not change. jenna: that was president obama back in 2009, pushing for a reduction of nuclear arsenals around the world. four years later while some nations including the united states have fewer nukes than in the past, other countries are
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moving becoming towards nuclear powers for the very first time. our next guest says we're witnessing a radical global shift. in a column in the "new york post" betty writes, how far will the nuclear club grow? with so many less savory regimes getting the bomb, it will be tough to keep them from proliferating next to top terror groups. we have a columnist for "the new york post." benny, it will be tough but will it be impossible? >> it is never impossible but it may not be too late but it could move in that direction if we continue in the same path we're on. jenna: if we're not looking to treaties or not look to agreements for example, to reduce arms, if that is not the path to go which is one of the things you argue in your column, what are the other options? >> in the case of iran the sanction regime has worked fairly well until now but it is not going to sop iran. what will stop iran is either
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that they will believe that the military threat against their nuclear program is valid and therefore they will change their calculations, or, working threaten to make it happen. jenna: you also point out, we talk about iran a lot going nuclear, being a major concern for our national security but one of the things that you have written about, it is not just quote, unquote our enemies that could be going nuclear but some of the countries we call our allies. that shift in dynamic is when we should closely pay attention to. why? >> we're talking about north korea and iran and they have neighbors. if north korea moves its nuclear threat so much faster than their neighbors are going to even, japan which is, you know, a flips a switch away from making a bomb, even japan, who has that trauma of hiroshima and nagasaki
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might have no choice but to go nuclear. and in the middle east, which is now embroiled in a sectarian violence in the middle east, you have sunnis and shias and iran is the leader of the shia world. so if the saudis and other sunni stalwarts, say, turkey, people like that, see that the iran goes nuclear, i don't think they will just sit there and say, okay, we're not going to. jenna: comes back to that question whether or not it is inevitable. is there anything that would stop that path? if that is the most powerful weapon in the entire world, that's what these countries, friends or foe would like to have, what would ever motivate them not to go nuclear? >> well, i think that it is all a question of calculation. if, becoming nuclear is so important for iran right now, and they see no actual disincentive to become nuclear then they will become nuclear. if they do see without, if they
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become, if they continue on the path to nuclear weapons that they will have a lost problems, then they will not become nuclear. jenna: and you think that's still a possibility? >> it's still a possibility and think we're not doing in that direction and i think at that part of the problem, part of the reason, part of the gap between obama's promises in 09 as we saw in that clip and the reality currently is because there's a, that the u.s. is projecting kind of weakness on stopping enemies from doing all kinds of things including in the case of iran, going nuclear and in the case of north korea, you know, narrowing -- jenna: quick final thought from you on this you were born in israel. you covered the middle east for years. at times we've heard this again and again on our show what we're projecting to the world is not being taken in the way we want it to be, right? we want it to be strong but yet the way it is being perceived is
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different somehow. what do we change so that, what we're saying, and what we're doing is, is a show of force rather than the opposite? >> well, it's a lot of little things i think. i think that if obama says, something like, you know, for me, the use of chemical weapons in syria is a red line, and then, there's use of chemical weapons and nothing happens, that projects weakness. that projects, you know, that means that, you know, the u.s. can talk. it doesn't walk. jenna: you're saying the details matter? they're not overlooked. benny, great to have you. >> thank you very much. jenna: appreciate it. check out benny's entire piece on our website. log on to foxnews.com. click on the opinion tab and you will be able to read it right there. jon? jon: right now court is in session at the fort hood massacre court-martial as pathologists are set to present more autopsy results on the soldiers murdered in the 2009
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rampage. we're hearing more painful testimony. a federal investigator calling the crime scene, the worst he had ever witnessed. casey stiegel live from fort hood, texas, now. casey. >> reporter: yeah, jon, a long and grueling day still ahead. six forensic pathologists are expected to be called by the prosecution. one is on the stand right now as we speak the panel or the jury just enter ited the courtroom within the last 30 minutes or so for the first time this morning because up until now the judge had been holding what is called a 39-a session where all the parties are present with the exception of the panel. because judge colonel tara osborne has been meticulously going over all the autopsy photos with the doctors who performed the autopsies to make sure they're not too graphic and quote the dignity of the dead is preserved. she basically wants to control what the jury will see and determine whether it assists with the witness's testimony. these are autopsy pictures of
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the 13 who were killed here at fort hood. testimony we have heard today, suggests some of them were shot in the back. also interesting, of note, discussed in this 39-a panel session, how major hasan has authorized the release of his sanity board report. you remember hasan exclusively gave fox news channel pages of that 49-page document through his civil lawyer and later "new york times." it was a report written by a three-person panel who interviewed the army psychologist back in 2010 to see whether or not he was competent to stand trial. well, that is privileged information, not available to the prosecution previously. but today, the judge repeatedly asked hasan if he was sure that he wanted to waive that privilege, meaning that the government could potentially now have access to this report and use the information in it against him? hasan, said yes, he wanted to waive that privilege. pretty big and interestingly, an
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interesting development there, jon. jon: what an awful case but those families are finally getting some satisfaction, that is, u.n. you know, justice is finally here. casey stiegel. >> reporter: right. jenna: many republican stars are in boston this week for the latest gop gathering. we'll talk about issues being discussed and the no-show everyone is talking about. detroit's top police brass blushing big-time, with the department accidentally revealed about its women officers. you don't want to miss this. ♪ [ bottle ] okay, listen up!
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jon: well "happening now," some of the biggest names in the republican party converging on boston. new jersey governor chris christie, former speaker of house, newt gingrich and republican national committee chairman reince priebus set to speak at the gop annual summer gathering. but noticeably absent this year's event, former presidential candidate and governor of massachusetts, mitt romney. molly line live in boston with more. molly? >> reporter: hi, jon. some big names will be here from massachusetts. former senator scott brown among them. you mentioned a few other big names that will be in blue, blue, massachusetts for the rnc summer meeting. despite the fact this is such a blue state, republicans said this is about broadening their base and showing support for what happened here during the boston marathon bombings. the decision to locate in boston was made not too long after that event and they wanted to stand
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with boston. part of the strategy selecting boston is expanding their base, moving into blue states, red states, all across the country and working especially on minority communities around the country. here is the rnc press secretary talking about the efforts to expand into some of these minority communities. >> we know that we have neglected some of these communities in the past and we really need to start talking to them and explaining that, we're with you on a lot of principles. there is this perception problem that the republican party has with a lost communities and we need to fix that. report also today, kicking off with newt gingrich and chairman reince priebus, becoming the party of breakout. that is the workshop that kicks off here to start things off. tomorrow chris christie is expected to give remarks at a lunch. that would be on thursday. then we head into friday. there is women are the minority panel that is being held. they are expected to take care of some business throughout the day. one of the things they will be touching on quite possibly is the fact that the rnc expressed
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some very strong concerns about some documentaries being made about hillary clinton. they have asked those networks that were planning those documentaries to pull them or face consequences of possibly not hosting the debates on those networks. there is a possible vote that could happen here on that matter this friday. jon? jon: no mitt romney? >> reporter: no mitt romney. you're going to have, we'll have to listen to everyone else they brought in together for this. jon: molly line, live in boston. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. jenna: a deadly plane crash in alabama with an airbus coming down in a field outside of the airport. still really no word what caused the accident. we'll have the latest on that story coming up. doctors are making amazing strides treating deadly forms of cancer. the role of genetic research. we go in depth, next. good job!
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jon: a breakthrough right now in cancer treatment with genetic research sparking the revolution, allowing doctors and drug companies to revamp their approaches by using treatments that narrowly target a specific tumor based on what is known about its dna code and genetic makeup. joining us now with a bit more of an explanation, otis brawlly, chief medical sister for the american cancer society. for many cancers up to now, radiation and chemotherapy is the basic treatment. you bombard the body with a lot of bad stuff and you hope to kill the cancer in the process. these new treatments are targeted after specific cancer genes? >> that's right. what we're starting to learn is what's going on in terms of mechanism within a cancer cell the we have certain drugs that interfere with these mechanisms that are going for lack of a better word, haywire, causing
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the cell to become con cerus. jon: that is progress in genetic research. >> this is the fruits of some investment. we're learning more and more about what is going on inside the cancer cell. i really liked your explanation. our old chemotherapies were basically trying to poison something that was growing. now we're getting very specific. we're actually going and looking at what is wrong in that cell and what can we do, either to fix it, stop it from being cancer or what can we do in the cell to actually kill it. we have targeted drugs that are wonderful now. jon: right, one of the good side-effects of all of this is because, patients aren't necessarily subjected to the same huge doses of chemotherapy medicines. they're coming out of the process in much healthier condition? >> that's right. far fewer side-effects. only problem of course is we've
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got limited numbers about targets right now. number of targets are growing. lung cancer are three or 4% of people who have specific targets that can benefit from this. we'll learn more about lung cancer and find mortar gets over the future. breast cancer we have a number about these targets. jon: yeah, i was reading that lung cancer is not just one or two or even three types. there are, you know, a dozen or more mutations that may be causing lung cancer. >> that's right. getting back to a story that was in the press about two weeks ago, about, redefining and naming cancer. we're starting to realize as we go look inside the cancer cell. certain things that look like cancer could be very different. some are benignish in their behavior. some are very aggressive. when you talk about lung cancer, wouldn't be surprised 20 years from now, we're talking about 100 to 150 diseases. jon: my own mother died of lung cancer, never smoked. it was a real mystery back in
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2001 when she passed away, what led her to come down with this disease. that is kind proving guess you're going to be able to make. >> that's right. that's right. one in five americans with lung cancer is a non-smoker nowadays. i totally understand your concern about that. we've got to figure out what causes some of these things and as we figure out what causes some of these things we'll find out not only how to prevent some of them but how to treat some of them. jon: and are we making progress across the board? colon cancer, lung cancer, breast cancer, other types as well? >> that is a wonderful thing about this targeting. we actually are making progress in the first time colorectal cancer for the first time pancreatic cancer and lung cancers. we made progress in breast cancer, for example, in last 20 years and even prostate cancer. now some of the tumors hardest for us to treat are findingly
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making inroads. jon: that is great to know. doctor, we appreciate the information. come back and share more good news with us one of these days, will you? >> thank you. jon: you bet. jenna: we do have some new pictures coming out of alabama today, from birmingham. that's where we saw earlier this crash site. these are some of the first aerial images of the crash site. we're working to get them to see exactly what we're talking about. if you're just joining us we had a ups plane crash early they are morning. two people died. this is the first view, we're see, jon, what that looks like. we understand it's a half mile from the airport. jon: i believe the plane went down before dawn. look at the haze in the air. it looks like it was an awfully foggy morning when this plane went down. that may have had something to do with what happened there. jenna: eyewitnesses at scene. they raise a question, weather was it an issue here? investigators will sort that all
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out. new images here. two people lost their lives and the debris field is rather big. we'll keep you updated on that. we'll switch to a lighter story. do you have road rage ever? jon: no. i try to keep things under control. jenna: i would imagine, jon is a very calm and controlled driver. jon: mostly, mostly. jenna: up ahead we will tell you about the drivers who are the biggest jerks, jon, and the marker could be the kind of car that you drive. the findings of an interesting study straight ahead. jon: hmmm.
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