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>> i'm really sorry it got blown up. >> oprah tries to backpedal on her charge regarding the handbag saleswoman. is it too late? and a rodeo clown makes news and loses his clown for mocking mr. obama. how did the media react to this? >> on the panel this week rider and fox news contributor judy miller. jim bicker, fox news contributor allen combs. fox news watch is on right now. the american people really don't know what this law is all about. i've tried to figure it out. you know, you've tried to figure it out. you've worked on it every day and the president has.
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they change the law on the run which is utterly unconstitutional. >> mark levine talking with fox's kneel cavuto earlier this week about the complexities about confusion. that obama care is a mess. are they picking up on it? >> yeah. it reminds me of the catastrophic care act of 1988 which was repealed in 1989, but fortunately unline president bush 41, president obama has the media on his sign. that clip from chris cuomo was a pretty indicative thing. paul bremer at news busters documented a lot more of this. he's got a bodyguard around him. >> alan? >> look, the washingt"washingto has followed obama care. the fact is they've showed maps.
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this notion that the mainstream media, i.e. liberal media isn't doing its job is just not true and they have a whole thing about when it's going to be implemented. so the fact is that it's not been ignored and if you read enough media, you'll see what's going on. >> well, judy, there are a lot of reports that the costs are going to be much higher than the president has promised and the media generally seemed to ignore that. >> i think that's because the president himself has said there's going to be some implementation problems. these is a hugely ambitious and important program that if implemented well will do a lot to increase the health, improve the health of americans. the problem, it's all in the implementation. and as rich lowry said this week in news max, he said, who are you going to believe? the president's numbers or your lying insurance company. >> or right wing publications that he writes where he doesn't
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like the president to begin with? americans are going to start losing their doctors. the president promised just the opposite. i mean shouldn't that be covered? >> it should be, and he's made a variety of claims and there are some supporters of the law who's actually frustrated with the president for not being totally genuine with what's going to happen. he says that there's not going to be an increase in premiums and cohen says, of course, there's going to be an increase in premiums and that's a good thing. >> you know where it's going to cover it, new york, california, where is the media talk about those implemented exchanges reducing. it's the red state governors that refuse to participate. they're costing citizens more money. >> in other words, it's the republicans' fault. >> that's what's happening. it's a fact, not an opinion. >> well, rick, the president delayed another portion of the
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obama care. you know there was going to be a cap on it instituted. the president said, oh, well, we'll hold off on that. did that get the coverage that it should? >> no, it didn't. thing what we saw this week, and judy's right and did a really good job of pointing this is out is we have liberal journalists like susan page and jonathan chase who are beginning to say it's a big problem but they're trying to already blame the republicans for it. i think the republicans shoulder own it and say, yeah, we killed it and we're proud of it. >> one homogenous one that fits all, it's excessive, expensive, and attacks on the system. the "washington post," for example, ran an article cently trying to make the case of former president george w. bush and his heart procedure as a cent example.
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if mr. bush visited a general intern nift practicing sound-based care, he would not have had cardiac testing. what value does a stress test have for an otherwise healthy 67-year-old? no study has shown that this examination improvens outcomes. follow-up test, only necessary, because of the initial unnecessary screening tests are usually paid for by medicine. further stressing our health care system. he's commending the efforts of the former president's doctors. dr. siegel, a profoefrs medicine at new york university's lamedil center. >> physicians should not be speculating wildly about facts they don't have. doctors doing, that oncologists saying he should have a
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colonoscopy, not a stress test. in um number one, he was having some symptoms and one third of all heart attacks occur in people with atypical systmptoms like h was having. number two, someone vigorously exercising is a candidate for it. his diet in the white house wasn't the best. there was a pastry chef there. there were questions. the stress test showed abnormalities. they went ahead and did a cat scan. and, john, the kind of blockage he had was life threatening and all card jol yifts would agree. if they knew the position or severity that either a stent or surgery was in order for president bush. but you know something? you needed to know the facts to know that. >> the drker doctors who wrote that piece also claim thad the media coverage of interventions like mr. bush's also leads
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patients to pressure their own doctors for unwarranted and excessive care. do you think it does? >> no, not at all. in fact, what it does is just the opposite. articles like that lead us to move away from extremely important tests like stress defendants, extremely important interventions like that that are not always necessary. yes, they may be overdone sometimes but that's when there's a bad doctor. meshlg needs to know that when tests are appropriate, they should be done. they have this technology. i'm concerned that underobama care actually, things like this may not be done often enough. in this case it was needed and that's the lesson here. if you don't know the facts, don't speculate. >> dr. marc siegel, thank you. >> good to see you. >> jim, should we expect more media coverage touting the benefits of obama care? >> look. i think that's a fair case where they're so desperate to make obama care work according those projections. it's not going to cost a lot of
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money and so on, that they're willing to forfeit people's lives. >> what does it have to do with obama care or not. this has to do with weather the stent operation is necessary. that's the question. was it really necessary. >> next on news watch, are the media failing at covering events in egypt? clashes in egypt as the military crackdown on opposition adding more chaos in that country. is the situation there too challenging and complex for the u.s. press? answers next on "news watch." how do you do a summer clearance event the dodge way? first wait till summer. then get the cars ready. now add the dodge part. ♪ the dodge summer clearance event. right now get 0% financing for to 72 months
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get the nokia lumia 928 for free. we've been blamed by supporters of more sichlt we've been blamed by the other side as if we are supporters of morsi. that kind of approach will do nothing to help egyptians achieve the future that they deserve. we want egypt to succeed. we want a peaceful, democratic,
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prosperous egypt. that's our interest. but to achieve that, the egyptians are going to have to do the work. >> president obama taking a break from his vacation to comment on the chaos in egypt, saying the u.s. is taking heat for the situation there. but he's also taking some heat here at home. the editors at the "washington post" writing that as a result of decisions to support the military takeover, the obama administration is complicit in the new and horrifyingly bloody crackdown launched wednesday by the de facto regime against tens of thousands of protesters who had camped out in two cairo squares. rick, you're accustomed to dealing with complicated storie department spokesman. are the media getting this one right. >> you know, thing it's too complicated for most political reporters, and we've seen reporters who are inside egypt inside cairo doing a fantastic
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job. not all of them are accurate, but i think at the end of the day, you really need to be watching the reporters who are inside egypt, not the ones who are reporting from the united states. i don't think that they get it. jack merkinson who's the media critic for "the huffington post" wroetd a whole story this week about how the media might be targeted in egypt, which is a ridiculous claim. they're reporting from inside a violent area, so, you know, watch reporters who are inside egypt for a better handle on the situation. >> if this were president bush he'd be getting hammered for being detached in the middle of all this chaos, wouldn't he? >> he was in 2006 when the lebanese war erupted. they said this is a result of the president's die tachment from the peace process. but actually president obama is taking a little bit of heat from the right and the left. he did a pretty workman-like job of outlining the policy saying we condemn and deplore.
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cnn's ashleigh banfield said it's a license to kill which was a gross exaggeration and it's indicative of the pressure that's coming under the president. >> judy, you know as much or more about what's going on in egypt than any of us at the table. have any of them taken sides? >> i think a lot of them have. a lot of them are looking at what happened around ta rears square. we were all that because we were toppling a dictator, but now a lot of reporters who are there, including richard engel who's a superb reporter normally, all the footage was about the crackdown on the poor muslim brotherhood, but there were no pictures of the poor muslim brotherhood attacking police, kill 45g of them, attacking 39 churches, burning people. mine this is a very ugly civil struggle and the president is right. we have to take some distance. i'm glad he didn't cut off aid
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to egypt. >> did the media force the president's hand in coming out while he's on vacation in making that statement? >> no, i think real forced his hand. i'm not aware the president has a policy other than say something, fill up some air time on this. but, i think, again, he's got good news. if you want it gorks back to the reggie love story about the president during a bin laden raid when he said the president had been playing cards during the bin laden raid back a couple years ago. and for his trouble, reggie love who was an african-american, former aide to obama was clobbered by matt lauer, norah o'donnell and others. next on "news watch," was oprah's claim of racism a convenient theme? >> oprah makes a claim of racism while promoting her new film
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i go into a store, which shall remain unnamed, and i say to the woman, excuse me, may i see that bag right above your head? and she says to me no. one more time i said, i just really do want to see that one. and she said, oh, i don't want to hurt your feelings. and i said, okay, thank you so much, you're probably right, i can't afford it. and i walked out of the store. now, why did she do that? >> well, that was last week about the same time oprah equated the trayvon martin
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shooting to the brutal murder of -- she was criticizing a handbag salesman of raceismraci. later the saleswoman and the shop's owner denied it ever happened. this week oprah tried to back away from her claim. >> i think that incident in switzerland was just an incident in switzerland. i'm really sorry that it got blown upment i purposely did not mention the name of the store. i'm sorry that i said it was switzerland. >> well, she's sorry it got blown up. what did she think was going to happen, noah? >> and this happens on the heels of repeatedly call the verdict in the george zimmerman trial aakin to the murder and lynching of emmitt till. but this is something of a precedent. it just kind of comes right before she promotes a project which relates to race itch. in 1998 she was sued by texas cattle ranchers by saying mad cow is a problem. she says, i believe i come from being muzzled. i come from a people who died to
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have a show. she then moved her show to amarillo, texas, to promote this. in 2005, a similar thing happen nd paris where she was ejected from her meese and some of her friends fed news saying if this was celine di on or barbra streisand, this wouldn't have happened. >> was this just a convenient time to tell this story? >> well, it's a convenient time. she's a great entertainer and showperson. and you've got to love "time" magazine which picked up the bag and arran with it. they went to switzerland and talked about how racist switzerland is. they talked about how asiel seekers were not being permitted to use the pool or sports facilities. they also pointed out the handbag was made of crocodile and a group called for paws was protesting oprah winfrey's even looking at it. >> rick, the media just kind of took her story and ran with it and it took days before anybody heard from the shopowner or the
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salesperson. >> yeah. they just ran with it. we should say separately, though, john, the movie "the butler" open thz weekend which is about racism and oprah was a victim of racism. so if you think that somehow these two are not related you don't understand that oprah is the queen of pr and the queen of media. these two are totally related. she did a fabulous job with it. and i salute oprah for promoting "the butler" which open thz weekend. >> isn't lee daniels' the butler, i'm changing my name to my tile. he has his name in the title. how about the fact that -- i don't know who to believe, oprah or the saleslady, but rush li t limbaugh, maybe it's because she's fat. come on, how about that? maybe denying that racism would ever exist? how dare they. >> well, sometimes she's skinny. it just depends on the diet. next on "news watch," did the immediated area overreact to a rodeo clown's exit?
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obama, they're coming for you. >> i'm ready. this bull's going to get you, obama. he's going to get you. >> that's the scene from the rodeo at the missouri state fair last weekend. an unnamed clown wearing an obama mask and the voice of toughy guessling, another rodeo clown who has been banned from performing again at the fair because of the outrage over the spectacle. the missouri chapter of the naacp reacting with this -- the activities at the missouri state fair targeting and inciting violence against our president are serious and warrant a full review by both the secret service and the justice department. this has gotten an awful lot of attention, noah, even maybe more than the egyptian situation on the front page of friday's "washington post." >> yeah, the rush to denounce has been incredible, faster than the next guy. but this just in, the official clown reaction. judy quest, the president of the clowns of america and
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contributor to clowns journal, a real clown wouldn't mock obama. >> jim ? >> i grew up in college towns in the '60s, '70s, there wasn't an anti-nixon ral wily that didn't have a nixon mask. surprisingly the aclu hasn't gotten involved. >> there is a racist look, the guy saying, charge the obama clown, and the crowd applauding. that does not belong at a places where children are going, a rodeo basically. totally inappropriate. >> go ahead, rick. >> alan, have you ever seen the mask of george bush? >> so the argument is the other side does it, too. >> come on, liberals need to understand humor in america. >> it wasn't humor. it was racism and totally inappropriate to teach children that's how you deal with the office of the presidency. >> i heard you. let me finish. the simple fact is that this
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week the freak-out from the left to be totally intolerant of humor is ridiculous. why don't you turn on jon stewart one night during the bush presidency and then come talk to me. >> sensitivity training for all clowns. that's a rap on "news watch." judy, jim, noah, allen and rick, thank you. hello, everybody. i'm heather childers, welcome to america's news headquarters. >> i'm gregg jarrett. topping the news this hour, new evaik waigs orders as strong winds are fueling multiple will wildfires across the west. who's in danger now? coming up, a live report. and a major battle brewing in our nation's capital. some republicans now threatening to hold up the national budget over funding for obama care. we're live in washington with the latest on the showdown.
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