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a-rod, a roadway, a >> it's not true. i spoke to him this morning and had a positive conversation and i understand it's not true. we are on the same page. >> tonight as baseball is pounded by scandal. steroids were good for the game. and remember isaiah the 2-year-old recently found wandering the streets of rhode island? >>. >> the main focus of this endeavor was to not only find isaiah was to proiz closure for family and friends. >> there was a restraining order, so why didn't cops protect the child's mother against the man she knew would kill her. plus, where is the outrage? comparing media coverage of the bus beating. the killing of a georgia toddler and the tragedy of trayvon.

>> there is no question that they saved countless lives and we know that most of those lives saved based on the statistics have been black and hispanic young men. >> handcuffing new york cops. >> there was no reason, none,s that a resident of the upper east side should be treated differently or feel differently. >> more stops with is you specialty activity in neighborhoods with higher crime because that's where the crime is. >> you can quote me on my answers. >> tonight that fiery woman ask a popular actor debate a police chief who said a dpreszive tactics save lives. want proof? check out the tale of two cities. new york and chicago have seen murder rates drop by 25%. as of two weeks ago, new york has been using stop and frisk

had 190 homicides. chicago has a similar ratio with only 1/3 of the population suffered 50 more murders. 240. since august 1st, 28 more having killed shot to death on tuesday. cities around this country are asking whether the end of stop and frisk means an increase in violent crime. whether there other ways to stop the bloodshed. craig investigates. >> this is a determinous decision made by a judge that i think just does not understand how policing works. >> what i find most disturbing and offensive about this decision is the notion that the nypd engamings in racial

profiling. >> the crime busting police commissioner ray kelly follows the stop and frisk, a terrible decision that could have tragic consequences. here in new york, the most dangerous neighborhoods, opinions are varied and passionate. >> stop and frisk is the worst thing i have seen in my lights. it violates your rights as a person. >> doesn't it keep kids from carrying a weapon? >> i see them find nothing. >> i wish when my two kids were killed, i wish they had stop and frisk for the two that killed my kids. >> despite taking them off the streets, they profiled tens of thousands of young plaque and latino men. they cofounded harlem mothers save. stop another violent event. >> yes. it's racial profiling, but it's racial profiling because we care

in harlem and this community is the one that is killing each other. we are taking lives every day. >> in east new york, we talked to some former thugs who have an alternative to stop and frisk. >> these are two violent interrupters. >> in and out of jail including an arrest for armed robbery, woes on a project called cure violence, part of a city-funded program called man up. >> i'm not one of these guys. i'm here to help you. i have been where you have been. i put people where you are at and i'm here to help you. >> this is better than stop and frisk. >> 1,000 times better. >> andre mitchell is founder and director for man up incorporated and he knows the scene, having done time himself for manslaughter. >> you are walking the walk and talking the talk.

you spent time behind bars myself. >> i'm an example of a person who has been there, done that. you can see the accomplishments that people like us can make. >> he works with charles and randy fisher of the hip hop summit youth counsel. >> it's about coming up with solutions. you have to hire people that are incarcerated and used to carry guns. those are the best people qualified for the job. >> he believes his ex-cons prevented homicides for over a year. and shootings for the past month. this intersection is known as the four cd, the four corners of death because of the episodes that have taken place. they believe it was intervention rather than stop and frisk that prevented that violence. >> if it wasn't for us, they would shoot each other. >> all of you have seen people shot.

>> turn to your friends. i had friends and 23578ly members murdered. >> what i they getting into? is. >> the same as the boys. gangs, drugs. teen pregnancy. >> they do their work at night when trouble tends to boil over. they are the ones kids turn to. >> the reality with many minority neighborhoods that you have to belong to a gang to preserve yourself? >> that's one of the myths they turn into a reality. >> $200 if you turn in the gun, no questions asked. >> back in harlem, they push gun buy back and runs a support group for rereeved parents. >> me how the organization has grown. >> we started off with five

mothers. i am sad to say but glad to say that we have a support group of 50 plus mothers and fathers who come monthly and sometimes twice a month and we have a strong support group. just helping each other with the pain that we endure every day, every day. if we can get out and save another mother's child and stop another mother from being in the pain that we are in, then you know what? our living will not be in vain. that's why it is important for stop and frisk to continue. we don't want another mother hurting and don't want another child's life lost. >> in dangerous neighborhoods like this one in brooklyn where a day without a shooting is celebrated with a neon sign.

the question is, are there enough organizations like man up and cure to prevent gun violence without stop and frisk? back to you. >> thanks. next we will debate stop and frisk and why certain crimes are color blind and others are not. we'll be right back. [announcer] there's no hiding the goodness of the latest from

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the nypd is the most racially and ethnically diverse police department in the world. >> let's get to the debate. williams is sitting alongside me, a member of the new york city council. leading critics of stop and frisk. you recognize him. he is hailing from nigeria. were you born there? >>. >> from d.c. >> law and order and nurse jackie and graceland. he has been all over. what's that movie? >> lottery came out a couple of years ago. yeah. >> in milwaukee, the sheriff supports the controversial tactic of stop and frisk. you have been the most focal critic. what about the argument that 97% of the murderers committed in this city are committed by black or latino. who are you going to stop?

chinese grandmas? >> i don't know. i'm the that i go to a lot of funerals. it's unfortunate. we need to do a couple of things. the ability to stop someone and that needs to continue. we are talking about a profiling that has been embedded. >> if 97 percent per are black and latino who kill, why is it profiling? >> the thing that you said, the murder rate is 190. the murder rate has dropped. the mayor has been taking credit for things he didn't do. from 1990 to the year he came into office. the murder rate droped from 2500 to 649. the year they have been in office, no correlation to stop shooting up. when they do the stops, 4% of weapons found on whites, 2% of weapons found on black and latinos. still they continue. >> you cannot avoid the fact

that the vast majority of murders in this town and everything is black people killing black people and brown people killing brown people. >> if you want to look at the reason yes these happen and the statistics, you can see this is the reason it happens. these people don't kill because they are black or brown. that i kill because they are in a social class where crime is more prevalent. where you see poor white people, crime goes up in i were city. >> i agree, but that is why. i was in the airport in martha's vineyard and they searched old ladies and young children. is that what you want the police to do? >> i put out statistics that said even if that's true, the policy didn't work. everybody can say we can discuss the race when it's time to discuss the problem. those are the only resources we do. if i say use the statistics,

let's send affirmative programs and people say we can't do it. >> hold it. i have to get to the opening statement and come back to you guys. you hear two critics of stop and frisk. why do you like stop and frisk? >> first of all, assertive policing is effective in dealing with crime and crimes of violence and the kind of thing that's going on in new york city and urban centers across america including here in milwaukee, wisconsin. policing is difficult enough. we ask our officers to do this with hand tied behind their back. this decision is not grounded in a sort of legal basis. now tying the other hand behind these men and women and not only new york city but across america.

they go out and put their lives on the line in doing so. this becomes a cliche after a while when i hear the racial profiling charges against law enforce am. i have been in law enforcement for 35 years and hearing it for a long time. any time the claim is made, they had no factual basis. here comes that cliche again. i heard the thing earlier about some former convicts and former criminal inmate trying to give advice on how law enforcement should police is like a cat taking advice from a mouse on how to catch mice. that's the last group of people i would take advice from. if they have inside, most law enforcement are open to the ideas, but like i mentioned, they really -- gun buy back

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and the victims black, it would have been instant out rage. >> they were two african-american boys and one of them was about 15. he said i'm going to kill your baby. i said please don't kill my baby. >> they received far less attention than trayvon martin's tragic death at the hands of george zimmerman. >> he shoved me and then he shot my baby in the head. >> earlier this year we had two black teens who shot a white infant in the face with a .2 caliber pistol and have not heard from the naacp or the media on that as well. there is cherry picking for the sake of political purposes. we need to get away from that. >> jury selection starts monday and the boys are innocent until proven guilty. isn't it fair to ask why certain

crimes push the race button? we continue from milwaukee. the actor. you first. why do people get riled up when the crime fits a racial stereotype. >> that's not true. i get riled up and i am out there trying to make sure it doesn't happen. what frustrates me for stop and frisk, it doesn't work. nobody listens. we still continue to do it because it's a plaque and latino community. it's a historical systemic problem with how we deal with that. >> how do you do that? >> the biggest issue is we should be finding out why to look at somebody's race and statistically figure out whether they had a proper education and access to a job.

that's not the question we asked. if we ask, people look like they are crazy. when commissioners come before me, i said do you believe they are born more prone to go to crime. if the answer is no, something is wrong and we haven't fixed it. >> it's fun to deal with the root problems than it is to be symptoms with stop and frisk and with asking these questions why new york does better than chicago. that's because we have more resources. that's better than chicago for a host of other reasons other than the fact that we are racially profiling here. why certain crimes ring a bell and others don't? the race bell. >> it's pretty obvious that the race hustlers and demi goings, they created a cottage industry out of this thing and any time

something of this nature comes up, not just trayvon martin, that was a tragedy, but other situations as well. they capitalize on those things and that keeps their names out there. the class acts and the lawsuits and money to be made. i find it sickening when that stuff happens. a quick comment on what was just said about why individuals commit crime. people don't commit crimes because they don't have a job. there is a more socially acceptable way to behave if you are poor or if you don't have or can't find a job. what i found in my 35 years and i talked to a lot of homicide suspects and was a detective for a while. what i find is that many of these individuals are just morally bankrupt. their value system. >> wow. wait a minute. >> you go -- >> you first. >> excuse me. i believe what you intend to do

is honorable and you are disconnected from the community and despite the fact that you served if are 35 years. calling these people morally bankrupt and i'm not saying some of them are not lost and don't have moral or core issues, but what i am saying is if you cannot emphasize that the people you arrest or the people you go after, you shouldn't be going after these people. i think you are in the wrong position. >> that's a terrible thing to say and it scares me. >> sir, with all due report that's up to the voters. >> the suspects in these crimes, they are morally bankrupt. you can disin isz that if you want. you can come up with reasons as to why they commit this type of violence. you can do that all night. >> check it out.

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operation. this is the second high profile drug arrest since mexican troops captured a leader of the zeta cartel . now back to geraldo. >> welcome back to the show. we are continuing our debate. a well-known actor and sheriff david clark jr. in milwaukee. you first. the final thoughts. the sheriff said race and hustlers always politicize these matters. >> it's historical. they are not new. decades ago, they looked different. the criminals came from europe. at that time what they said was that they needed access to education and jobs. they flooded the communities with the resources and said it's

social mobility. all they did was send police. what we need to do is the same things we always know works. not things like profiling that doesn't work and no one pushes back. >> you are next. >> the truth is we can fill the numbers back and forth. we believe the numbers are on our side. we want crime to go down and everyone to get opportunities. we have to start with empathi empathizing. as soon as you start saying this is because of their race, you disqualify yourself from being able to solve a problem. >> you get the final word. >> thank you. we can bash the police all we want. i know it's envogue in some communities, but one thing you cannot blame them for, let me make my point, please. the destruction of the family structure and many of the urban centers all across america.

things like dropping out of school and drug and alcohol abuse. young men growing up without engaged fathers and child rearing. fathers are responsible for the socialization of young boys. what we are seeing right now from the behavior of too many people. too many people of color and too many young black and hispanic males is antisocial behavior because they haven't been socialized. the risk factors that have been to be solved by the individual themselves and not by government and not by the police. you will continue to see these things. >> i'm going to leave it there. >> i got you loud and clear. i do. i hear you. i know how i am on this particular debate. i thank you. we have to move on. we have political scandals from san diego to new york. up now solving the mystery of the pretty blond and the congressman and who is the baby's daddy.

>> your youngest is gorgeous. i said yes and i said every time i look at her, i see your face. i wrote victoria a letter and she wrote me back and said this is very difficult for me. all my life i thought somebody else was my father and about a year ago my mother told me that i didn't know what to think. i googled you and researched you and saw your nose and i knew it wasn't a joke. >> when he was caught in the act of sending intimate tweets to a young woman, we all figured it was another example of a congressman gone wrong. the object of his digital affection was his long lost daughter. it led to paternity tests and they found out the tennessee congressman was not her biological father. it has been a crazy ride if are victoria who is here with her

attorney. you are very lovely. i'm curious, why didn't you insist on the paternity test before going on this crazy ride? >> i believed my mother when she told me. she can't believe he is not my dad. >> how did you meet physically? >> i'm curious why you didn't think your dad was your dad and why you thought the congressman was your dad?

>> my mother told me she thought or knew that john brink wasn't my dad and steve cohen was. i believed her and i looked him up and we resembled each other a little. >> you started communicating by facebook? >> yes. >> the infamous tweet he made public that was not intended to be public. >> i don't believe so. >> the storm hit your life. >> yes. >> you understand why those of us in the media thought immediately it was another ap anthony wiener. >> i understand. >> how have you weathered that storm? >> it was very difficult. i didn't like that everyone jumped to conclusions. >> characterize the tweets you got. some of the messages people sent you as a result of this. >> some people are calling me

pretty awful names. which they don't know who i am and i don't know why they would call me that. they talked about my looks. i had back fat and my elbows were too pointy. i remember reading that after a while, i just said i can't read anymore. people are just too rude and awful. >> when they came at you that way, how did you cope? >> i'my shy so it made me uncomfortable. it was really difficult. >> was it difficult? you didn't enjoy the publicity some. >> no. especially because it was about a personal matter. it was difficult for my whole family. >> how did you tell your dad that you were going to have this paternity test and you didn't believe your dad was income your

dad? >> when the story came out in february, it was just on blogs and everything at first and it was getting bigger and bigger. i was freaking out and saying i have to tell my dad before he finds out through the media or just friends or something. me and my sister met him at our house and he said he already knew about it and heard and he loved me no matter what. i'm still his daughter. he is always going to be my dad. >> now comes the test and it's alltel vised and there was a moment of drama. the winner for the academy arngs ward for best picture was -- it turns out it wasn't steve cohen the congressman from tennessee, but indeed the dad who raised you. was that a feeling of relief or

disappointment? >> i felt bad for steve, but i was happy for me and my dad. it was difficult because steve grew a relationship with me and i thought he was my dad and he thought i was his daughter. all of a sudden that was taken away from him. earlier in february the same thing happened to my dad throughout the media. >> first one dad lost and you the surprise dad lost you. >> yes. it was difficult and an awful situation. >> are what do you think about steve cohen now? it's nothing about it that makes you uncomfortable in terms of his affection for you? >> no. he was trying to act like a father to me, but now we communicate a little. i don't think we have hard feelings for each other.

>> would you like to have a relationship with him in any way, shape, or form? >> i would like to keep a relationship with him. obviously it will be different now, but he has always been very kind to me and he's a good person. >> are what do you want to do with the rest of your now? >> be happy and successful at whatever i do in the future. >> do you think it's okay with your old dad? >> oh, yes. i see him all the time and talk to him every day. you going to take this to the supreme court some. >> if there is anything that anybody needs to make, if you are involved in something like this, do not read the reader's comments on any website. we raised a generation of people who are cloaked in cyber anonymity and think they can say whatever they want. >> you should read my twitter account. see you next time. thank you very much. remember the story from last

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daughter vanessa and kidnapped her 2-year-old son, isaiah who was found wandering the streets after a nationwide amber alert. he is the brother and the uncle of the two women murdered. thank you for coming on. how is the child doing? little isaiah? >> he's okay. they are all together in a safe place. these doing all right. >> are me about the restraining order and the fact that for almost two weeks, authorities were unable to find daniel rodriguez to serve the temporary restraining order. that sounds outrageous to me. >> like i told you, they basically allowed my sister to be murdered. she basically pleaded for help and they did nothing. now they are back tracking. my sister should be here right

now. >> not only that, but daniel rodriguez was violent to your sister and is it not a fact he was previously arrested for murder? >> yes. he murdered a young man by the name of tyrone tate in the housing projects in providence. he was charged with that, but the changes were dropped because witnesses didn't show up to testify out of fear. >> also is it not a fact that your sister was not the first woman that this dirt bag had been violent towards. >> exactly. he had an ex-girlfriend in 2007 that he did the same thing. she had a restraining order and he attempted to kidnap her at knifepoint and said what's this f-ing restraining order doing

for you now? they let this murderer loose and wander the streets. they allowed my sister to be murdered and nothing was done. she pled for her life. i'm angry, man. like i said, i'm not going to allow this to be another story of two women who were murdered and forgotten tomorrow. not while i'm alive. >> the message that authorities have to take the restraining rts more seriously? >> yes. these cops when they hear these women pleading if are help, help them. don't wait until the woman is murder and something happens. help the woman when she is yelling for help. these cops do nothing. they wait until the woman is murdered. >> thank you for coming on. i'm sorry for your loss and it's an important message and i'm glad you had a chance to make it. thank you very much. so sorry if are your loss. up next, another day, another major league ball player

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>> as 13 big-league ballplayers get hit with suspension for steroid use. heart felt denials are painful to watch. >> for the next several weeks it is a bumpy rod and every day expect a story like this and if not bigger. and after arbitration i will have a platform and tell my story. if i had done this intentionally

or unintentionally i would say i did it. i am not perfect but if i ever take responsibilities. i believe in my heart and bet the substance never entered my point. >> at lost my next guest never claimed to be perfect. new york city is the sewer of immigrants and over run with misfit ands steroids is good for the game of baseball. former atlanta brave pitcher john rocker joins us from georgia. john, welcome, do you regret combf your outrageous comments in the day. and not so much outrageous. but they were misinterpreted and misconstrued. you whisper a sentence and it

comes back an entirely different story. it is the way the comments were portrayed 13 years ago and this day. >> i cut you all of the slack but you did use the word queer. >> that was inappropriate. but immigration and immigrants in new york. i wrote a bock. it is not talking about the immigrants and dislike it was an opinion that today's modern-day imdprant takes less upon himself or herself to assimulate with the country they voted to be in than the grand parents. >> i disagree with you whole heartedly but we'll leave it for another night. and we have a lot of ground to cover but not enough time. starting with steroids. do you believe they are good for

baseball. >> the sentence round the table gets back to me. never said steroids were good for the game. you talk about the ethiccal and integrity steroids are bad for baseball. back in 97- is 200 foif, the game was more entertaining when they were part of the game. it is nothing more exciting between the homerun chase of sammy and mark. >> there was thrilling. and going to the stadium in atlanta and st. louis and seeing 30,000 people just to watch mark take batting practice and sammy. and it was an electric time. we know what drove the homerun chases. was it good for baseball once the other shoe feel and we saw how the excitement was damaged.

ethics of the game was, but the excitement value was electric. >> i am not going to argue. alex rodriguez most valuable player and yankees win the world series and he was juicing. should they have a astryst in the world championship of 20 where are nine. nabsolutely not. they had 24 dpois and they don't want their accomplishment in winning the world championship smeared. because they committed and participated and had just as much to do with winning the championship as alex did. >> wapercentage of players were juicing one way or the other. n40 or 50. >> that's pretty high in>> it is. >> and so you look at it now, isn't it cheating and like lance armstrong in the tower defrance and how dow have faith in

baseball. nmajor league baseball put a loud stamp on the pedera and if they want to insure it is not going to happen. if you fail a perform apse enhancing drug test, the organization can null and void the contract. that would eliminate peds now and for ever more. nalex rodriguez mar que player of the 13 suspended. you think the 211 game suspension is legit. to snout a suspension like that takes precedent. second failed game hundred. and alex never formally been suspeppeded and this is technically his first suspension and 211 is unprecedented and never throw up. >> how fast can you throw it?

>> as i am sitting here 63. non a good day. you can. you can turn on me. >> you are a great relover in your day. i appreciate you coming on. >> not a problem. >> and in other news, the duke dynasty willie robertson heard a couple planning on getting married were calling off their ceremony because willie was in the area and they wanted to so him. they got married in the fold near pittsburg and did it in full cameo and willie showed up. thanks for watching and have a great week, good night. now add the dodge part. ♪

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