>> good to have her own. 4 o'clock p.m. eastern on fox. thank you for joining us. america live starts right now. thanks, everybody. >> we start with a fox news alert for you. we have a look at the united nations there in new york city and we expect to hear from the new u.s. ambassador to the un. samantha power is expected to discuss the situation in syria welcome to america live, i am allison cameota in for megyn kelliy today. as we wait the ambassador the closed briefing on syria is getting underway on capitol hill. members of the obama administration is detailing the latest information on syria as some of the loyal supporters of the democratic party are expressing deep reservations for the united states to get involved in another mideast war. there is host of power play on

fox news.comlive. hi, chris. >> it seems as though think progress has released the first kind of informal head count of who is with the president in doing a military strike on syria and at the moment, it seems that there are less than 50 members of the house of representative who say that they would definitely support a strike. why hasn't the president been able to attract more democratic support for this? >> i don't know. he hasn't tried much. we may find out in the weeks to come, we heard from nancy pelosi yesterday that she was expecting weeks, weeks of debate on this response to the us of chemical weapons in the syrian war. we haven't seen much effort to rally support or public support yesterday. the president said it was not his redline or his credibility and it was the earth that needed

to have the credibility tested and the planet's red line and so if he's not selling, why would it be surprising his own party is not buying? >> we heard from congresswoman from dc on the radio show and she talked about why she would support the president and why democrats should support the president and we'll play a portion andee if we respond. >> it is not a a easy decision. >> i would like to say, if it is saved it is because of the democrats don't want to so him shamed or humiliated in the national stage. that is the only reason to vote on it. >> so he is not shamed and humiliated. >> what she is talking about. she is adeleigate and doesn't

have a full vote in congress. that's about where it ends. and the other members of the congressional black caucus who were against the military intervention can hardly be expected to sally forth for the president and support this. what the expectation from the white house was, the republicans would eat the frog on this thing. the war is very unpopular and it is the most unpopular conflict and lowest ebbs for vietnam or the iraq war and the republicans would eat the frog and we'll say, okay, we'll back the intervention because we support the projection of u.s. power overseas and support the authority of the president to do these things and david axelrod came out and taunted them a bit and concerns grew about the presence of al-qaeda on the ranks of rebels that we are trying to help. and the republican support has faded. democrats are not there. they thought the republicans

would take the hard part of the job. and if they don't do it, the president's party does not seem ready to go. this whole thing crosses party lines. we know that senator and democrat of new mexico said no. he will not say so. and the connecticut senator will not support it. behind closed doors what is happening on capitol hill. >> how do you keep a coalition together in which the democrats say that the guarantee they want is that the attack will be ineffective in removing bashar al- assad and make sure it is so small as to not be looking like it is a precursor to invasion. shock and a we and other side john mccain who are upset because what the president was offering in the beginning was inadequate. you have a stretch affect. how do you cope that coalition

together when the democrats are demanding less and the remaining republicans join the president and want more. >> the closed door meeting, what do you think will be decided? >> nothing. and now that we have the news from pelosi, that is this going to be weeks long. a talking about a month old despouted chemical weapons attack in syria and talking about the need for urgent action. how urgent will it feel in october? >> chris stirewalt. i will use eat the frog. >> eat the strog. >> that is my goal. thank you so much. >> and as we await congress's decision on syria you can get the developments is not to your inbox in our dale fox first note.

simply enter your e-mail and click the sign up button and you are good to go. that is fox news.com/foxnewsfirst. don't miss out on the breaking news. >> as the debate rages in congress. government troops are taking on christian groups. you can see the violence there. according to the watch dog group rebels do have links to al-qaeda. leland viter joins us live from the mideast bureau. >> the latest information out of syria is that the rebels are winning the battle for the village. that is about 40 miles northeast of damascus. and it is strategic. remember that president assad is close with the syrian christians

and protected them a long way. the government's troops cannot be afforded as they continue to protect the christian villages and hence the attack by the rebels moving in 3300 people. we are showing you video that we are able to find from the rebels of one of the churches inside. two historical mons terries that are in that town and only place where western a ra mayik. and they were able to reach a nun in the town and said that the orphans that they are taken care of in the monasteries are in a local cave and they are now safe. it is important to cope in mind who the rebels are. they are associated with a front that is a global al-qaeda group there inside of syria that is acting and they are gaining an upper hand in the battle against the government and taking on the moderates.

to put it in perspective. 5,000 people a month die there in syria 166 a day. and do the math, since the chemical weapon's attack more than 25 men and women and children killed in the fighting. >> back at home. new controversy for mayor candidate anthony weiner with a loud mouth voter who took issue with the congressman on the way out of a deli. what happened here, trace. >> he was in the brook len deli for a while and walked around and talk toth owners and grabbed a iced coffee and honey roll. it is when he started leaving the deli he got a verbal assault from the customer. >> it is a real come back.

it is nice. error very nice. that's a chairmanning guy right there. the real heat started because weiner accused him of attackingment and the man said he is not afraid of weiner and then it is on. you are a perfect person. you are my judge. >> what rabby taught you that you are my judge? >> you are 15. >> stay out of the public eye. >> that is not up for you to judge. i don't take my judgment for you. >> you are a bad example of the poom. your behavior is not normal. >> you are going to judge me

these two went on several machines. thee though said if by meltdown i stood up to a heckler. yeap, did that. that's what mayors have to do sometimes. it doesn't a pore anthony weiner will be the mayor of new york city. he's down at seven percent. those are horrible numbers and so he's making headlines and going down the polls. >> but not stepping out of the race. providing interesting stories for us. >> and meanwhile we are awaiting an update on the crisis in syria we'll bring you remarks from the u.s. ambassador to the un samantha power. and federal investigation in the tragic death of a teenage athlete after his family claims what was initially ruled as an

accident is much more sinister on second inspection. and the actual cost of a health care plan. we'll look at the price tag and what it means for his promise to cope costs in check. >> when ever insurance premiums are going up. you are told it is because of obama carine though there is no evidence that that is the case. heart healthy, huh?!

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responsibilities including as a party the chemical weapon's convention. what the syria people learned. they need to deal with this cries and is not the security counsel we have. none theless. the secretary general himself stressed. chemical weapons must not be a tool of war or terror in the 21st century. it is in our interest and in the interest of all member states of the un to respond to this horrific attack. i am happy to take your questions. . >> what is your response to russian president putin's comment not to exclude if he had definitive proof and any way the security council can be relevant on this issue? >> thank you. i have seen putin's comments.

i think we have to step back a little bit back from the comments and look at the pattern not only two and half years but in the last couple of months on chemical weapons. in july in the wake of g- eight putin and the rest of the world leaders had issued a statement condemning chemical weapon's use. we and our colleagues sought to enshrine that in a un security resolution. russia rejected this. the ambassador said it was not the appropriate ven u for condemning chemical weapons. on august 21st. all of us watched the videos and seeing those children we tried again to issue a press statement condemning chemical weapon use and russia blocked a mere press statement and not identifying responsibility but condemning

chemical weapon's use. there is nothing in the pattern of our interactions with our colleagues in the security council with our russian. >> strong words there. you are listening to un ambassador powers as she talked about rushia. she also made the point that 15 minutes of the security council had agreed that the use of chemical weapons was abhorrent and not the u.s.'s redline but the word's redline and at times like this. the un security council should live up to the obligation. she is not pulling punches when it comes to russia. opening of the new insurance exchanges was obama care is fast approaching the deadline. we are getting the first look at the true cost of coverage. according to a new study. these are the numbers that we have for you.

a 21-year-old buying a midrange policy will average 270 a month for a 40 year old who to buy that midrange policy is throw 31. and a 60-year-old will pay 615 a month and so debate the numbers. we'll have former chief speech writer. and this is founder of the new network and former campaign advisor. thank you for being here. guys, finally numbers to work with and we can see what the costs will be. this is the biggest study to date and finds that a 21-year-old who will be forced to buy insurance 270 a month. that is before a tax break. most people would get the tax break to lower to 190. mark, what do you think and how dow think 21-year-olds will feel

about coughing up that money. >> it is getting higher and higher and higher. and look, it is not just the costs of the insurance, it is the cost in jobs. this obama care, president obama is going to go down in history as the part- time president. not because he played more golf than has predecessors. but he is presiding over a part- time economy. the obama labor department recently reported that 80 percent of the new jobs created this years part- time jobs. obama labor department reported that employers are cutting hours at a rate not seen since 1980. you have people, forget about the cost of the insurance. we have people moved out of full- time work and into part- time work where they will not have insurance. and so we. >> simon, i want you to comment.

a flcio who supported obama care said all sorts of companies are now moving to part- time employment. >> sure, just to be clear on the cost side that those numbers we saw in the study are substantially lower than projected by the cbo. market forces and competition are working to drive down the premium costs for the folks who are going to be buying in the exchanges next year. and inflation is the lowest it has been in 50 years. pieces of obama care are working already. and the issue of part- time work. the study that we reviewed showed that less than 10,000 people based on that study potentially moved in to fewer hours and yet we know that millions was americans have health insurance because of obama care and hundreds of

millions was americans will be able to have the comfort of knowing that preexisting conditions will not be considered material in their health care. we are seeing a lot of up side on this. >> we don't have much time. simon explained it is free health and better than president obama has in times. and the reason people are nervous. we haven't got a lot of information about the president and what is changing. i many, look. it is a basic law of economics that if you tax something you get less. obama care is a tax on full- time employment and if you are a employer and you have 49 full- time workers and you don't pay obama care. but if you go to 50 full- time workers you do. and so what is happening is, and the numbers that simon cited.

it doesn't say 10,000. those are confirmed cases of people saying because of obama care we are doing. this >> we talked to many business owners who said that is true for them. mark and simon. 0 to cut you short. we have breaking news. we'll be right back. pp ÷ó

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a federal investigation after a teenage athlete is found death in his school gym. it was initially ruled as an accident. but his parents launched an investigation of their own and found that their son's death may have been anything but accidental. trace, what do we know? >> what happened the wrestling match rolled up and stacked up behind the blaechers and a lot of the kids don't have lookers and end up putting them on top of the wrestling match. there is surveillance video that showed 17 year old kenneder johnson went in the gym. and he was all alone, right. one of the tone investigators believe that his shoes may have fallen benegotiate the hole inside of the mats and got stuck in a possession where he could not broeth. the george why bureau of

investigation died he of a freak accident. but the family doesn't buy that, listen. >> it was not any accident and we hope and pray. >> and we all just talk, talk, talk. you heard the grandmother said second autopsy. the judge was convinced to exhume the autopsy and it showed he did not do i of affixiate but a blunt trauma and fatal blow to the neck. the sheriff stands by the accidental autopsy and freak accident. but the family is not it to the u.s. attorney for georgia and the department of justice and civil rights division. doj said it is not a civil rights case but the doj is

looking into the second autopsy to decide whether or not this mist roe case should be reopened. >> sounds like enough questions and that family needs answers. >> and now questions on the rebel civil war. and we get video of opposition commanders said to have been taken after last week's weapons attack. could it change our government's sdoir to help them in and a mother charged with murder when her baby dies after drinking toxic breast milk. >> she fed that baby drugs. that was her baby-sitter. we reached out you don't need to do. that we knew it was going on. give him to us. we are here if you don't have time to do it.

>> well, as the obama administration pushes for u.s. involvement in syria fox news obtained a new video that raises questions about people we are helping. in it opposition commanders are sewn in a room decorated with islamist flag. that is meant to send a clear message the west. could we be standing in bin laden and stan 67 yarrow where we arm rebels and have them turn

on us. the four- star army general. thank you for being here. >> good to see you, allison. >> we heard the warnings that there is factions of the rebels that are aligned and infiltrated by al-qaeda. do we have any sense of how much al-qaeda has infiltrated syria at this point? >> i think we do know numbers. i mean jab ad nasa is an al-qaeda group. there are 5,000 and smallest groups. they are providing funding and weapons supplied to them. they are territorial and up in the north and establishing the islamic republic of iraq and

imposing sharia law. and the communities are demonstrating against them. >> general, let me just ask this. if we know where they are and how many strong they are. can we help the rebels. and can co isolate the jn group that you just outlined and help rebels that are pro american? >> allison. that is a tremendous question and something that we are trying to challenge the state department with. we know the syrian free army is the opposition for us that a lined its interest with the united states and what is the strategy to enable them politically and economically and militarily to succeed. i don't think we have a comprehensive strategy to do just that. we know that there is ji haddist in syria. then what is your strategy to undermine the organization and

so they don't gain undue influence. these are the things we have the where with all to do. it state department should drive it and a whole of government approach to do this thing and that is a clear strategy to deal with a post assad regime and remove the doubt that people have with just ikdz that we don't know what is going to happen and therefore people wring their hands and we do nothing. if we had a strategy in place we could enable something positive to happen. >> it sounds like it is not. and senator john mccain agrees with you. he talked forcibly about how he believes that the rebels need more of our support and that the rebels can be trusted. is there any reason to believe that he's being downed by the rebels he's visited over in

syria >> i don't think so. there is evident that is straightforward that moderate group is the largest. they have the most support from the syrian people and secondly they are receiving arms from saudi arabia eight months now and recently they got anti- aircraft weapons that shot down a couple of planes and that produced the chemical attack in eastern damascus, and anti- tank weapons and none of those weapons have fallen in anybody's hands but the modern forces. that doesn't guarantee that something bad will not happen in terms of weapons and gives us assurances and the ciowa a along with secretary clinton and pentagon and recommended to the white white last summer that we have vetted the opposition forces and it is in the risk

portfolio to give them weapons they need. the white house said no. >> what is our hold up? >> i think the reason we are going through a vote in the congress is they are fearing any adverse political consequence to a national security decision that they make and as a result of that. consequence of doing nothing makes the situation actually worse. >> as we've learned in egypt and elsewhere sometimes the devil you know is the best option given stability if that is what we want in a region. in assad is over thrown and there is a power vacum, who is next after assad. >> that's why we need a strategy to help the opposition forces that are aligned with us. common sense would tell you this, allison about the five 247d person force.

there is millions of syrian people that opposes the regime. they have killed over 100,000 of the syrian people. they don't want radical islamist running the country. they would not roll over and let this group of radical is slammist take over after assad. they are dying in the streets, standing up to assad. they certainly wouldn't let radical islamist take over without a fight and impose seventh century talibanism. >> and contributing me if i am wrong. you prefer to see the united states send weapons and support nojaba a l news rathan the surgeeccal strike that congress is debating right now. >> i wouldn't se

assistance and funding in the kind of weapons that the opposition forces need. those two things combined, i believe it would change the momentum to the favor of the opposition forces in syria. and that is a strat edgic situation and we want to put it as a buffer against the iranians and we don't want to so it come out victtorous. >> thank you so much for coming in. >> thanks for the questions, aliceon. they are good. >> a rare brain disease is called the new coined of mad cow and already killed one person and may have spread through several states and a potentially deadly helicopter crash as a tv crew goes down wth cameras still rolling. >> and this is an important story. a murder charged with the death

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>> this is a fox news alert from the white house. they confirm that the president's trip to california has been cancelled and he will stay in washington to work on the syrian resolution for congress. full membership of the house and senate are due back on monday which is september 9th. >> and toxic breast milk blamed for the death of a young baby.

she was taking a handful of prescription drugs including methadone. they picked up the story. trace, was she under a doctors orders to take the prescription drugs? >> it is unclear ally, right now the story is a mess and they are trying to figure out who is to blame. the baby couldn't catch a break. he was poisoned with toxic breast milk. laced with methadone and xanax. and drank enough to make an adult high. when he was four months old he overdosed on breast milk. child protective services determined that the baby was at risk, but he stayed with the mom because a cps manager didn't signed off on the assessment for three months and in between

rider's first hospital overdose and when he died, the mother drove off of the road and intoxicateed with her son in the back seat. police filed another report from cps and got no action. safety ark sessionment should be approved right away. but there are occasions when a time lapse occurs between the review of the safety assessment and the approval. the grand parents and others believe that the mom gave ryderdrugs to calm him down. >> we reached out you don't need to do. that we knew it was going o. give him to us. we are here. if you don't have the time. >> sarah stephens is charged with second-degree murder and child felony abuse. she was taking ambienn and other things. whether they are prescribed is unclear.

>> thanks so much for explaining that. can a mother be held liable for a child's death in a situation like this? we'll bring in brian and shea jenkins. great to have you here. and let me start with you. it sounds like the mom was on a cocktail of prescription drugs and we don't know if she was urched a doctor's supervision for all of these. but murder of the baby. if it only got the drugs through breast milk is murder right. >> if you knowingly administer a controlled substance and they die. it doesn't matter if needle or bottle or breast milk. it doesn't matter if she was taking the drugs on a preskrepgz. she tock the extra step of breast feeding her child after being warned that her child had accidentally overdosed from a cocktail of prescription drugs she was taking.

that is a problem here. nbrian what do you think about who murder is the right charge for her. nmurder is not the right charge and it is premature to charge the mother for any crime. i think what the district attorney needs to be doing is focusing on the doctors. you tell me how a doctor is preskroibing zanex or methadone to a mother of an infant child. remember conrad murray and the motorcycle mike jackson case. it is not like we are dealing with a mom who was shooting up with heroin or free basing cocaine. >> but brian. hold on. >> he is on methadone. because she was a heroin addict. and you don't take it unless you are trying to kick heroin. she knew what she was on was making the baby lethargic.

and they said you got to stop breast feeding him. so just the fact, is she still breast feeding tells you she didn't have the breast interest at heart. >> she anyhow the child overdosed prior to this incident where he died. she continued to breast feed him. she continueed to do that knowing he was at risk and his safety and health. >> doesn't that change the equation that she was told to stop breast feeding. >> she was warned to stop breast feeding but you need to look at what was prescribed and following her prescription plan. it is different if she is taking an illicit drug. then i would agree. but if you have a situation where she is following a reg min from a doctor, take a close look at the doctor. maybe there is criminal negligencement >> sure. but what it sounds like for her

health, she may have been preskroibed to kick drugs. but why would she still be breast feeding her child. that is the added wrinkle. >> maybe she has a mental health issue. maybe she is not a drug addict. considering the mental health aspect of this as well. i just don't think that the district attorney has canvassed through enough information to make the charges. i think it is a public relations stint because of the baby sammy incident that happen with the same cps agency did a great job of covering. so quick to karj her. >> the doctor did not order her to breast feed her child. that was a choice and she did that after being warned to stop because it was detrimental to her child's health. >> we don't know the results of the autopsyment what is the true cause of death? >> yes, we do. >> was it cause of death?

we don't know that? >> we do. >> was it the methadone? >> it was a mix of cocktails. zenack and methadone, the exact drugs she was taking. >> we should talk more about that. >> interesting you want to make sure she's not needlessly being charged with murder however it does sound like she overlooked a lot of warnings from her doctors. thanks for debating this with us. experts warn a rare brain disease may have been spread from one person and may have been spread from the infamous cow disease. president obama grinning and bearing his first meeting with his russian counterpart. will their intentense relations over syria dominate this debate? this is for you.

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there are new concerns over a strange and rare brain disease after the death of a brain surgery patient. public health officials are now concerned that the disease may have spread into multiple states through contaminated surgical equipment. fox's laura engel is live with the latest. tell us more. >> health officials in manchester, new hampshire announced a neuropatiesurgeory t who is suspected of having cjd may have resulted in exposure to other patients with similar surgery and those that cause sporadic cjd is not destroyed by the standard sterlization process mandated at hospitals. the disease is extremely

dangerous, progresses rapidly, once symptoms appear but can take decades to show up. symptoms include memory changes, coordination changes and other neurological problems. >> once symptoms appear, however, the average time to death is about four months. there is no treatment, there is no cure and there is no screening test. >> hospital officials say that while eight patients locally may have been exposed, up to 13 nationally could be at risk because the equipment was rented. this is not the strain of cj dcom monthly known as mad cow. the director of public health and human services said the risk to individuals is considered extremely low. he added after extensive expert discussion, his team could not conclude there was no risk, adding this, we are take he stepping of notifying the patient and providing them with as much information as we can. our sympathies are with the

patient and their families as this may be a confusing and difficult situation. there are no neurosurgeries being scheduled until hospital officials have the autopsy on that first patient. >> thanks. after weeks of rising tensions between russia and the united states over the nsa, edward snowden and syria's civil war, president obama and russia's vladimir putin come face to face today. we'll show you their exchange and how it affects the crisis in syria. a principal accused of shooting her husband multiple times. why was she just released from jail. breaking down this complicated case? a death defying dive and terrifying video as a helicopter goes down. let's play:

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political posturing over syria. i'm alisyn kamca camerota in fon kelly. the senate will meet tomorrow for a brief session to formally receive the president's resolution for a limited attack on syria. half a world away, he and president putin putting on smiles and sharing an unavoidable hand shake there ahead of the annual economic conference. cordial if some what awkward greeting, masking an increasingly tense relationship as they butt heads how to handle the escalating crisis in syria. ed henry is live at the white house for us. tell us what you saw in that hand shake, ed. >> reporter: alison, you're right. awkward would be the one word to sum it up. they've been sparring on everything from syria to snowden that actually led president obama to cancel having a formal

one-on-one meeting with president putin in moscow before they went to the g-20 summit where the president is now. as you noted those pictures, at least they were smiling, there was a bit of a hand shake. they are trying to maybe mend fences at least for public consumption. but they have sharapova differences. russia has had a long relationship with syria in terms of selling arms and blocking u.s. military action particularly with allies. putin escalating the rhetoric calling secretary of state john kerry a liar yesterday. you look back where president putin was looking at his shoes. a little better than that. the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., sampan that powers had sharp words for russia over everything that's happened in recent weeks. >> instead, the system has protected the prerogatives of russia, the patron of a regime that would brazenly stage the

world's largest chemical weapons attack in a quarter century while chemical weapons inspectors sent by the united nations were just across town. >> reporter: today follows and extraordinary news conference in sweden where the president tried to reframe that whole red line measure and rhetoric he put out there one year ago this month insisting it's not his red line, the world's red line. his credibility is not on the line, the world's credibility on the line. bottom line, republicans like former defense secretary donald rumsfeld today said this is making the president look weak on the world stage. >> this president has tried to find a way to blame everybody or anybody for everything. and leadership requires that you stand up, take a position, provide clarity and take responsibility. i can't imagine him saying that he didn't draw the red line. but he did draw the red line.

>> reporter: overseas white house aides say the president has been working the phones, called at least several senators in both parties yesterday before this vote in the senate foreign relations committee. one of those senators was a democratic, chris murphy of connecticut who ended up voting no in the early stages of the committee vote. bottom line you have to wonder how much impact the white house is having even as they make a big deal about the lobbying push fi firiing on all cylinders and no everyone even in his own party are listening now. >> absolutely. thank you. for decades russian leaders have taken pride in sticking it to america and it's been as tense for russia as it has been in years in recent months from the weapons to edward snowden. the knocks keep on coming and we'll talk about moscow's

increasingly chilly attitude towards the united states. right now, hundreds of marines stationed on uss san antonio. of the coast of syria. the u.s. administration insisting there will not be any need for boots on the ground in syria. however, a top secret report prepared for president obama by the pentagon estimates it would take more than 75,000 troops, ground troops to secure and neutralize syria's chemical weapons. a senior naval analyst for the middle east security project. christopher, nice to see you. >> thank you for having me, alisyn. >> let's talk about this secret until no memo released by the department of defense, it has come to light or put together by the d.o. documents. from 2012. it warns it would take 75,000 ground troops in order to secure syria's chemical weapons. why so many and why do they have to be ground troops? that's different from what we've

heard. >> it's a good distinction between destroying chemical weapons in place or securing them. if you want to destroy them in place you don't really need ground troops to do that. you can do that effectively and possible with air cruise missiles. if you want to secure them, you have to put ground troops in. i obviously haven't seen the report, a classified internal report. the 75,000 ground troops are required to secure chemical weapons in place seems reasonable to me. >> wow! that is such a stunning number. can you help us understand something. if we were to do these basically surgical strikes on the chemical weapons stash, does that destroy the chemical weapons in syria or disburse them. >> two separate issues. if we're talking about a small chemical weapons strike that is to dissuade him from further use of chemical weapons. a small surgical strike will not

do if you want to eliminate them. it requires air power and cruise missiles and other weapons. they will be vented in the atmosphere. not like a nuclear weapon, not like they go high order from initiation. there is a minimal footprint. i'm not minimallizing the collateral damage and i realize there are human lives are at stake. that is one of the options they're looking at, striking the assad's chemical weapons as they sit in their bunkers. >> that's right. we are considering that. if the point is to deter assad from anything in the future but we're not securing the chemical weapons that means he still has access to his chemical weapons, so then how does the plan that the senate and house are currently debating work? >> right now, by all indications what the white house is looking at and what the house and senate are debating is a limited strike

that would serve only a deterrent purpose for a future use. personally, i think we're past the point where deterrence will do any good. clearly assad has a significant stockpile of chemical weapons and made the calculation it is in his best interests against primarily civilian neighborhoods. i don't think deterrence works anymore, we're at a point we have to recognize assad has the largest functional chemical weapons stock people the world and assad head as state careening towards disaster that will be split largely between al qaeda and hezbollah unless the u.s. interconvenience decisively. i believe the best course of action is significantly increase support to the moderate rebels on the ground and let them have the communication weapons they need and combine that with strikes against the assad regime. i understand there is no clean solution here. there is no way to solve this problem entirely. our best option is to

significantly intervene on behalf of the free syrian army. >> you're right. obviously this is so complicated and there is no easy answer. if we were to do what you are proposing and others have proposed a similar solution to support and arm the moderate rebels, do we need to have these missile strikes on the chemical weapons cashes or do we just leave them be? >> i think what we would do for the immediate term is leave them be. i think what we're looking at right now, the best option available for us right now is attack the assad air force, which is the most effective means of delivering chemical weapons at the same time attack the syrian integrated air defense system. both of these missions can be accomplished without putting u.s. pilots over syrian airspace and significantly increase aid to the rebels and let them do the fighting on the ground. that will not be enough in the immediate term to secure the weapons and may need to be

follow low on strikes. we are past the point we can deter assad from use of these chemical weapons. he's used them and his next step is to proliferate them out to his allies against hezbollah. the worst possible scenario is syria as a failed state dominated by al qaeda on one side and hezbollah on the other and a thousand ton of warheads running around. i completely understand and sympathetic to the argument the u.s. doesn't want to get involved here. i understand the public response to that but we're past the point inaction is a viable choice. >> we appreciate that and your analysis, christopher harper? thank you for having me. let's say we were to send 75,000 troops into syria. that number would surpass the levels in afghanistan for all but about one year of that war. the u.s. averaged 68,000 troops in iraq the start of the war in

2003. troop levels in iraq peeked around 170,000 in 2007. that was at the height of the surge strategy. in afghanistan, troop levels peeked at 100,000 in the years 2010 and 2011. there's disturbing new research on the possibility of a major tsunami here in the u.s. the study finds parts of california are particularly vulnerable to damaging waves similar to those seen in japan two years ago. a theoretical 9.1 magnitude earthquake off the coast of alaska could flood los angeles, long beach and other areas, forcing widespread evacuations up and down the state. trace gallagher is live from la with more. that has to make you nervous, trace? >> i'm a little jumpy. this is the most extensive study done on the effects of a tsunami in california. this is based on a 9.1

earthquake in alaska. 1961, it was 9.2. it says within four hours of that quake striking alaska, northern california would see waves of 10-23 feet. that sounds devastating but because there's a lot of coastal cliffs in northern california the damage would not be extensive. in six hours after the quake, southern california would see waves 3-10 feet. that would be devastating because of all the low-lying beach towns in southern california. take a look who would get hit the hardest. in northern la county, malibu here and then you come down a few miles from where we're standing in marina del rey. this means we're in los angeles. you have long beach where the queen mary is docked, a lot of sea cruises there and much of the cargo comes through southern california comes through long beach. laguna beach, all the way down to southern san diego county in mission beach. take a look at the effects this

would have. you're talking about trying to evacuate somewhere in the region of 750,000 people. in summertime, it could be up to 1 million people being evacuated, because the roads in some of these coastal towns are so narrow, that would be a very difficult chore. remember this. $8 billion is the estimate. take a look at this. 1964 in northern california, crescent city, this is what happened. 10 people died and the town was pretty much wiped out. very bad. a tsunami here could be devastating. >> absolutely scary. thanks. >> the leader of two cold enemies meeting again. president obama and president putin nilie i smiling and shaki street spite the new chill in america-russian relations. and this park is the inside of your body.

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a frightening helicopter crash from a perspective you don't normally get to see. the cameras were rolling as the helicopter carrying a tv crew shooting a new hunter show crashed. it was hit by a gust of wind and plummeted to the ground. luckily for everyone on board one of to the show's producers, a former law enforcement officer went into tries mode and managed to free the pilot and co-host. and thankfully no one was seriously hurt in this. new questions about what's fueling the increasingly chilly relationship between the united states and russia. president putin, repeatedly knocking america as he tries to re-establish his country's footing as a super power. driving the rift wider by denying evidence of the chemical attack in syria and obstructing

efforts to rein in iran's nuclear program and harboring nsa fugitive, edward snowden didn't help matters. the president and chief correspondent of feature story . >> hi. >> let's play a fun game. we like to call it what is putin thinking. let's try to get inside vladimir putin's head why he is continually thumbing his nose at the u.s. on all these things. >> if you're vladimir putin, all of this makes sense. you're absolutely right to link all these things together. this isn't simply about russian hostility towards u.s. policy and syria. it's about his decision to offer asylum to fug till whistle-blower, edward snowden and a host of other political issues. what vladimir putin has been trying to do and doing it successfully for years, is offer himself on the world stage as an alternative center of power to

the united states, basically saying to countries that don't share the united states democratic outlook, that he is prepared to be a bulwart against it, creating difficulties for the united states on a continuing basis at the united nations, offering asylum to a whistle-blower where that serves his purpose, standing by a syrian despot where that serves his purpose. it's a geopolitical game and vladimir putin is a master at it. >> as you were speaking, we were watching the encounter a few hours ago where president obama landed in st. petersburg and had to confront there vladimir putin and, of course, there sort of all smiles, they're shaking hands quite vigorously there. what do you see when you look at this exchange? >> you see an inevitable exchange. there's no way you can avoid vladimir putin on the world stage. he's hosting the g-20 summit in st. petersburg. he'll be hosting the winter

olympics in the southern russian city of sochi early next year. he is a big player on the global stage. you can't work-around him. the attempt to reset relations with russia with respect to the administration has not, as president obama suggested yesterday, succeeded, it's actually clearly failed in a variety of different ways. you're seeing that right now with russian opposition towards u.s. policy on syria, the russian president and his spokesman accusing secretary of state john kerry of lying to congress, trading insults with the united states, responding to president obama's characterization of vladimir putin as looking like a bored schoolboy the last time the two of them encountered each other at the g-20 summit in northern ireland a few weeks ago. this is a relationship that is to all intents and purposes dead in the water. it's going to remain that way because the two leaders clearly

have personal anomouse for one another. >> as you know, president obama canceled his sitdown scheduled for vladimir putin because of him giving edward snowden asylum. what's the best treatment? is freezing him out effective? does he feel left out or does he respond to one-on-one meetings? what would work with him? >> interesting question. in the old days when the russians were looking for acceptance by the west, seeking membership of the world trade organization, at times like that, you could actually have deployed the sort of freezing out strategy, perhaps with more effect than one can now. the problem is vladimir putin feels, i think, supremely confident of his geopolitical position, by working with the chinese at the united nations security council, he's headed a whole risk of action there to vors bashar al assad out of power. he projects himself as a strong

leader on the world stage to the domestic leadership in russia and appeals to many russian voters. he knows at the end of the day barack obama is a here today gone today figure. vladimir putin has already demonstrated he's more than willing to play fast and loose with the russian constitution in order to secure his own -- the longevity of his own power base. so he's working to a different series of time frames, a different agenda. that makes it incredible whiy difficult to get into his head and actually have a policy with impact. >> that's right. or to ignore him. you're so right. simon, thanks so much. meanwhile, a popular school principal arrested in the murder of her husband. why the police just set her free. v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. need a little kick? ooh! could've had a v8. in the juice aisle.

the popular brand, chobani, is issuing a formal recall for some of its greek yogurt cups. they're expressing concerns about mold after customers reported getting sick and yogurt tasting pretty yucky. the food & drug administration is discussing the matter with chobani. it comes about a week after asking retailers to stop selling their yogurt. most of the affected products have already been pulled from store shelves. a school principal is the prime suspect in the shooting death of her husband. the county prosecutor orders her released saying there's not enough evidence yet. trace gallagher is live in the west coast newsroom. tell us what happened. >> it happened in bakersfield, about 30 miles north of here. they're at loggerheads and the d.a. responsible for filing

charges that does not believe there is enough evidence and the police believe there is plenty of evidence. that woman right there has been let out of jail. her attorney told us moments ago he believes she will be rearrested sometime in the next few weeks. on the 25th, she and her husband drove off in a black mustang and she shot him several times and dumped his body in an almond orchard and drove away. they were married 20 years and she was and still is a very popular principal at an elementary school in bakersfield. their family and colleagues are stunned. >> from what i know she was well liked by her staff and parents and students. totally out of character from what i know. >> is there say they do have the murder weapon but so far, there

is no word of any motive. police say they're working on that but they won't release any details. the mild mannered elementary schoolteacher will likely be rearrested at some point in the next couple of weeks. but the lead prosecutor right now doesn't believe they have enough to get a conviction yet, the key word that you used, still applies. >> weird. what a weird case. all right. thanks so much for that. meanwhile, there's a new media criticism show debuting on fox news channel. we'll take a look at the buzz around "media buzz" with its host, how wart kurtz. and parents fuming over a new district school policy. kids who forget their lunch money with rumbling stomachs. >> that's like wasting food. if the kid already have the lunch bill the parent or let the parents know, okay, the lunch is getting low instead of just taking the food from the kid.

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we have a lot of fast breaking developments happening in terms of syria. here is the joint house senate leaders. they just had a closed door meeting. you're looking at senator joe manchin of west virginia giving us his after thoughts. >> i've talked to everybody from the highest echelon you can that's been involved in these conflicts before and people that

basically have retired and gone through them and people still actively involved. i think i have every perspective you possibly can receive on thi this. >> any value in president obama addressing the nation regarding this? >> i will make my statement later today. >> is the evidence solid? >> let's bring in chief congressional correspondent, mike emanuel, live on capitol hill for us. what do we know? >> those closed door classified briefs continue on capitol hill with intelligence and national security officials to lay out the syrian regime using those weapons on its own people. a 10-7 vote yesterday in the foreign relations committee likely translates into a close vote next week. doing nothing against the assad regime is not an option. >> once the administration made this call, though, i think there

is a real need for us to back it up, or america becomes a paper tiger, or it says to iran, let's proceed and develop a bomb, a warhead, because they're not going to do anything when push comes to shove. >> reporter: some key points, 30 to 60 days and no u.s. boots on the ground and a changing momentum. some say that may go too far with her colleagues in the house. >> what we were promised, this would be a limited targeted ariel strike to make sure the future assad and any assad thug in the world knows the use of chemical weapons against innocent civilians is prohibited. that is quite different from changing the momentum on the

battlefiel battlefield. >> reporter: while there's been a lot fof cuss on the senate moving forward. the wild card is the rank and file in the house that has been home in their districts hearing from their constituents and talking to both republicans and democrats, they say their constituents are overwhelmingly against using force in syria. >> it will be a tough vote for them. mike emanuel, thanks for breaking that down. the battle in syria will likely dominate the headlines and weeks to come including the fox news show "media buzz" live and in r interactive. joining me now the host of the program, howard kurtz and laura ashburn, also a fox news analyst. tell us about "media buzz." how is it different? >> thanks for helping us talk about the buzz. when they hype and get stories wrong we will have fun in the

process. not just media in politics but media in sports and culture and entertainment and tech and business. we invite people to tweet us on the show and read some on the air. get a quick plug. check out our home page f foxnews.com/mediabuzz. >> 11:00 on sunday. >> yes. i hope i said that. what's your role? >> i'm here to keep him in line. >> a full-time job. >>t you see the lighter side of howie. how about that? >> you'll be talking about syria this weekend. how have you noticed the media coverage of syria in tone thus far. >> we were just talking about chris matthews on msnbc who no longer has the thrill up his leg when it comes to barack obama and the subject of syria. >> he's saying everybody, democrats who might not even believe in us going into syria have to stand behind the president. that's not going to be very easy for them to do. >> we have a sound bite of chris

matthews and then we will talk after. >> i think the democrats will be forced to sacrifice men and women who really really don't want to vote for this and they have to vote for it to save the president's hide. that's a very bad position to put your party. >> it's interesting, howard, to compare it to the wrap-up to iraq and how the different tone of media commentators like chris mast news, interesting to hear them try to make sense of what the president's thinking right now. >> matthews, who opposes the intervention in syria also opposed the iraq war. that iraq coverage or systems failure by the media hangs like a dark shadow over all of us. >> it made everybody all anal t analysts very skittish about supporting or advocating support for this war because the facts might not be quite accurate. >> what's remarkable you have the crew at msnbc, not just chris matthews, usually a cheerleading squad for president obama. in this case, they are not

uniformly supporting him and flip side on the right fox's laura engle opposing the president. >> beck said it could lead to world war iii and rush limbaugh says he only supports it in a limited capacity. everybody here is really struggling with this and having a discussion about it i actually think is a great thing for the united states and for all of us. this is not coming down on party lines, either in the media or in politics. >> what's so striking, alisyn, is the way in which the president is getting almost no support on either the left or the right. usually you have partisan breakdown, some people don't like what the president is doing or like. even those saying, yes, i guess we have go in, in a limited way, good thing he's asking permission from congress. they're not exactly shouting from the rooftops. most reporting is skeptical to negative. >> some people are saying, you should have just gone in, republicans saying and why

didn't you just go in and strike? if he had just gone in, what would they be saying then? >> this is exactly why the president cannot catch a break on this. if he had just gone in he flouted the will of congress and if he goes to congress and they turn him down he's in the position of looking weak. >> he's in the position of looking weak for not doing something sooner. >> and leading from behind. it's fascinating. the media coverage is a little more skeptical because of what happened with george w. bush and the non-existence weapons of mass destruction. the media is not supposed to love barack obama and not seeing it here. >> i'm glad you brought that up because the media gives barack obama a pass because he's their darling. that seems to be changing not just with the syria case. do you senses there's still a pass being given to the president or are people becoming more skeptical? >> i think the second term turned out different than the

first and maybe during the initial stages of obama's presidency, basically the president in part because of a pretty staunch republican opposition, hasn't gotten anything done on immigration, gun control and budget and now has the big showdown on syria and the media and if they were in love with barack obama and not now. >> a lot is politics behind this, people saying he is trying to get good will for other issues that could come down the road or he's using too much political capital right now. >> that is what was so surprising at the decision at the last minute to pull away from an imminent strike because he will spend a lot of time and capital otherwise could be devoted to hammering out a budget deal with the gop. >> others say he's trying to cover his rear. his rear because he drew that line in the sand and now he has to appear strong. some commentators but to your point, it crosses completed partisan lines. >> i know everybody has their own opinion about this and there are many who hate president

obama and there are many who love him and would do anything for him. we as a country are actually having a dialogue about a very serious issue. all the time, people are saying, we're too divided on partisan lines. here, you're seeing a different story. >> you will get more of this spirited conversation when you catch the premiere of "media buzz" this sunday. the hour-long interactive program hosted by howard kurtz, ma making the live debut at 11:00 a.m. eastern time on sunday. thanks for tuning in. meanwhile, there are new concerns about e-cigarettes and they're gaining popularity with kids and shocking numbers and why people are concerned about the long term risks for children. as students settle in for the new school year, some parents getting upset about kids going hungry. >> we have guidance counselors and parent outreach personnel

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ibrahim. there are startling new statistics on children using e-cigarettes. according to the cdc the number of school kids whoever tried them doubled from 2011 to 2012. the study raising concerns electronic cigarettes could become a gateway to nicotine and other things. fox's john roberts is live for us from atlanta. what's the latest? >> good afternoon, alisyn. here's what the centers for disease control is worried about. the last decade there has been a significant downward trend of high school students using cigarettes. that's the good news. the down news is in 20121 in 10 reported they used or tried an

electronic cigarette. that means across the country almost 2 million of those students are smoking or using those electronic cigarettes. now, like a regular cigarette, these electronic cigarettes are a nicotine delivery system and instead of creating smoke, they create a vapor with a heated nicotine liquid. in our interview with dr. marc siegel said he's concerned these electronic cigarettes could be a gateway for young people to start using real cigarettes and effectively reducing that downward trend in smoking. >> if kids get hooked on nicotine because of e-cigarettes, that may make them life-long smokers, not just of e-cigarettes but traditional cigarettes and we know cigarettes are the number one cause of death in this country. anything that gets kids hooked on nicotine is a bad thing. >> reporter: unlike regular

cigarettes, they're not yet regulated by the fda. the wild west out there. no restriction on advertising or who can buy them. the centers for disease control worry there's a window of opportunity for these companies to market e-is rets and get them hooked on nicotine and start later. the habit starts young. 90% of adults who smoke started when they were teens. there is a flip side. a lot of doctors brief for people who want to try to quit smoking, these e-cigarettes could present a good alternative for regular cigarettes and even be a bridge to quitting. good news and bad news. >> thanks so much. let's try to understand this all better. let's bring in the chairman of medicine and vice president at newark beth israel hospital. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> what are e-cigarettes. can you explain how they work? >> they do. they don't produce any smoke.

they have an led on one end, looks like a lit product and no smoke. it's battery driven and there's a vehicle called proep po lean glycol mixed with the nicotine and when you suck on it it gives you a blast of the nicotine. you can smoke these just about anywhere, the public library, forever they permit it, on the bus because there's no smoke, no second-hand danger for others around you although i'm told people are restrict their use, particularly in schools. so when a child is exposed to nicotine -- by the way, you can get these on the web by checking a box. you don't have to be 18. you should be but you can check the box and get the cigarettes online. they're flavored, pina colada, cherry, grape, lime. the kids like the flavors. >> they're milkshake flavored. of course, they're going after teenagers even forever they claim they're not. teenagers probably think these are better for you than smoking

real cigarettes. are they better than real cigarettes? >> absolutely. real cigarettes contain acetone, tars, nicotine, the paper, all sorts of contaminants that go into your lungs. these are not perfect but they're certainly an improvement over the paper smoke fire induced cigarette. what you have here is from limited studies, and the fda has not studied this in detail, from limited studies in various medical journals and chest and pulmonary medicine, when somebody breathes in this puff of nicotine with proppy lean broncky old, the stuff which oxygen goes into the lungs, those narrow. if you smoke this for five minutes, your lung bronchioles narrow. if you have 10 of these a day, you can imagine what happens to your breathing apparatus. it is grossly affected. >> you heard john roberts talk

about this. there is some feeling there is an upside and it could help smokers quit and is safer and healthier than real cigarettes. how worried should we be about the uptick among teenage use? >> nicotine is an addictive substance. that's been proven by many many studies. the idea is if young people start to inhale this nicatenic substance that is absorbed, on nicotine through the electronic cigarette, they can proceed to use the actual paper cigarettes and cigars going forward. that's the concern. young people, when you start to smoke, you start to smoke at a very young age, those who are chain-smokers. this product is not fda regulated. it's the delivery of a drug. >> the good news is there has been downward trend in people smoking cigarettes with the education.

so maybe they need better education with this. >> firmly agree with that. >> thank you for your expertise. a new school year and new lunch policy urn -- infuriating parents. >> if the kid already has the lunk, bill the parent or let the parent know it's getting low.

many parents in one school district are furious over a new lunch pal limit if a child who is not on the free lunch program does not have money to pay for

lunch when they get to the cash register, cafeteria workerses are instructed to throw their meal away. not only are they hungry, the food is thrown away in front of them. more on all of that right after the break. we'll be right back.

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>> so back to the story. about the school lunch policy where a cafeteria workers throw out food in front of hungry students. reportedly here's the story. >> little carlos rios loves school lunches. he can't imagine the day he doesn't get to eat it. >> what if they throw it out? >> i would be sad. >> according to a new policy in the new jersey school district students who don't have enough money to pay for lunch must go hungry. their meals get tossed in the trash. >> that'slike wasting food.

if the kid has a lunch, just bill the parent or tell the parent the lunch is getting low. >> a child with go hung fry and suffer the social embarrassment of throwing their food in the trash because there's no money in the account. >> this mom did not want to show her case. >> that could happen to my kid. >> we have parent outreach personnel that would hopefully reach out well before this happened. >> the superintendent says this is in place to hold parents accountable. last year the district was billed $50,000 because parents reduced the free and meal tram. >> we're taking dollars from instruction. we have to go along with what the board adopted as a policy spend force it. >> we checked. this policy is perfectly legal. it's up to the district's direction, but this move

believes the plan will mean a lot of thrown-out lunches. >> they say they're going to notify when you have five dollars or less. >> the school strict will have guidian counselors and outrische personnel who will reach out to the parents before the kids' lunch account goes dry. "studio b" with shepard smith starts now. >> mac and cheese and chickening nuggets. >> you had broccoli and spinach only? >> actually, i threw that houston. they didn't have to do that. see you. the news begins anew on "studio b," and the president is keeping up his push for war in syria. they dent call it war, you know. they tell us it's not war but to the she the tomahawk missile that lands in america and that's

not warmth even on the home turf of leading opponent of the russian -- military act in rush, he is on the push. he is alone there. it met to an awkward meeting with the two and health officials are now contacting folks who may have been exposed to a deadly brain disorder, like mad cow disease but does not come from cows. football season, are you ready? i noe. it's starts tonight. baltimore and