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to strike all over the place. and glenn writes president didn't explain no boots on the ground. maybe israel? boots then? you can hash it out with us each night. thank you for being with us tonight a special live edition of "the five" is next that is great! we'll see you again tomorrow for "on the record." good night from washington. washington. , greg gutfeld... >> and this is not a joke,.. you're awake and this is "the five". >> right. >> greg this ruined my career i'm happy to be with you tonight we have a special edition of "the five". the speech lasted only about 15 minutes the commander in chief made a case for why it's in america's interest to act in seara. here is what he said assad regime did. >> images from this massacre
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are sickening. men, women, children, lying in rows killed by poison gas. others foaming at the mouth gasping for breath. a father clutching his dead children imploring them to get up and walk we know assad regime was responsible. these things happened. the facts cannot be denied. the question now is what the united states of america and the international community is prepared to do about it. if we fail to act the assad regime will see no reason to stop using chemical weapon autos after that made his case for military action. >> after careful deliberation i determined it's in the national security interest of the united states to respond to the use of chemical weapons to a targeted military strike. the purpose of the strike would be to deter assad from using chemical weapons and to
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make clear to the world that we will not tolerate their use. >> with that said he does think there may be a diplomatic opening. >> we have seen encouraging signs. in part because of the credible threat of u.s. military action. as well as constructive talks i had with president putin. the russian government indicated a willingness to join with the international community in pushing assad to give up chemical weapons. i have therefore asked leaders of congress to postpone a vote to authorize use of force while we pursue this path. >> the president speaking at 9:00 p.m. from east room in, at the white house. so for about 15 minutes and eric, if there were low expectations for the speech. some comments afterwards is that he did better than they thought he might do but i'm not sure what the message was that we're supposed to take away from that. i do think him describing videos administration released
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on saturday was a compelling part but at the end what was the call to action? >> i don't know. a couple thoughts about the speech. it was uncharacteristicly nervous. you can hear him breathing and i'm just blown away after hearing he'd like, you pointed out videos we've seen the videos i've had videos posted we're still not sure who delivered chemical weapons. i'm blown away this man is going to declare war on a sovereign nation without support from the un, international community. i was waiting for proof of a credible threat to the united states. and i think that is the difference here, he gave us solid proof in his mind assad attacked his people which i'm not so sure of but there no credible threat to american interest. the only reason you get congress to do this, if there is a credible threat to american interest, whether americans and one of our
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allies and he showed none of that. >> what did you think, andrea about what i thought, i'll see if you agree that this is the first time you came up about the conflict and the president is giving a speech. if you haven't seen anything happening up until now in 10 days you might think, okay, i get it. we're going wait for a diplomatic solution, fine. but it seemed divorced from the reality of what happened and on the ground and overseas. over the past 10 days. >> right. message has been conflicted there has been so much distance coming from the white house. the president didn't have to do very much. i will say he did better he did in the past and in television interviews yesterday and better than when he addressed the country on saturday. you know, to me it was very bizarre, dana he is making a case to the american people
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for something that he has no intention of doing. i thought that is odd. to give cred wherit i do think he had a specific audience in mind, the american people. i think they're looking for a pr victory tonight not a policy one. i think he was trying to have it both ways. and he said be motivated by emotion, describing pictures then, he said okay are you angry? are you angry? do you feel it? hold on. now, chill out. we've got to give congress time. he contradicted himself a number of times. he said assad needs to go. he said he would go to congress, then he won't, now he would go to congress he said we're not the world's policeman but made a case we need to be. he said no plan b if assad uses weapons again and says put trust in un inspectors which his administration said
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is a futile effort but better than he did before. >> with every argument seems taking assad out could be the right answer. but greg, he did try to, this is a president when he campaigned he said there wa, blue america, just one america. let's take a listen to this. >> so to my friends on right i ask you to reconcile your commit tomt america's military might with a failure to act when a cause is so plainly just. my friends on the left, i ask you to reconcile your belief in freedom and dignity for all people with thosing as of children writhing in pain and going still on a cold hospital floor. sometimes, resolutions and state condemnation are simp ply not enough.
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>> greg, your snougts. >> he says the right and left should agree because we really like to kill people. the myth is that he's inspiring when he's really perspiring. you can tell he wished he was home with clooney. now, i think he changed channels. and leading from behind makes me look like an ass i will say this to disagree. he did talk about proof. he did mention there was proof. >> were you convinced? >> how many minutes -- . >> you've got to intercept -- . >> i mean, he offer nod proof, he offered proof. that is why -- he offered me no proof assad used nuclear weapons. we saw the area and we saw missles land in neighborhoods and is in the hospital for
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people. >> he intercepted orders through front line troops and told them to put on gas masks. what more proof do you have? >> i think, energy? >> i think you need someone to say we did this. you need one -- one of the other side. military people who may or may not be detecting should say look we did it. we did it. >> come on. they interrupted -- interrepted what? >> if you're going kill a bunch of people you better be right about what you're doing. >> the military of assad military tells front line soldiers to put on gas masks what other conclusion can you reach? >> that may be someone from within al qaeda did it. >> ob or there is. >> or broke in and got into the communications office, right? >> there is a school of thought or an argument being made through i don't know who would defend assad saying
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someone in his military ordered witness out his permission. i doubt that to be true. >> i think that is applausible explanation and also made to be plausible by assad as a convenient way to say he is innocent. that someone else did it. >> plet me ask you think. do you think now the it snath would vote to approve military action? >> well, first of all i thought it was a very good speech. very late, it should have been given two weeks ago. before these perceptions have hardened on both sides. i think it's difficult this, is like the weekend before election. you know? you, votes are hard and you try to change vo.s it's difficult to do. and but i do think he made the case of national security of the united states z in terms of proof about assad you can -- there is not a jury in the country that -- . >> where is our national security threat? what threat to the united states is assad posing now?
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>> assad has a batch of chemical weapon that's can get in the hands of al qaeda. >> there is a better chance if we take assad out. >> we'll talk taking his weapons out. >> that is one thing administration has conceded they can't guarantee they'll fully do. they can't promise he won't either, a, strike again, or two, strike in a different way not using wmd. i don't think anyone is sitting here going does he have wmd but assad doesn't have them. the question is to your credit he used them far, far earlier this year, killed over 100,000 people before this latest wmd attack why did the president wait? why didn't he listen sooner? why did he let a secretary of state call hit hitler saying
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hurry up, then wait. >> by wait you're very grumpy. i thoughteed yooud be in a better mood its a question of trying to get what he said in the proper perspective. i think of the evidence there is not a doubt in my mind. the question if this works if the russian proposal works, and russians provided them with this, if they get it out of there and they can count it and un is overseeing that, that means it's going to be the time. >> i think it's realistic. >> i think -- let's see. they asked ghaddaffi do-to-do the same thing there. boom. they have drugs stuck down their under pants hiding it and giving to it friends. the same thing. >> if you get 90% of it -- . >> it's going to be our job. >> it's going to send a
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message, look there is a treaty. a world wide treaty. do you understand is that that? >> a lot of other countries have. >> wait a minute. you have not had a chance for this to work out. let's find out what happens when, when the kerry meets with his counter part. in brusselses. they may actually come up with a lot of countries supporting the side-view. >> two things, greg, despite in the last 10 days with assad we have had immediate action and congressional vote. the president traveled oversee seas feels like two months ago it was just days ago. announcing friday they would be giving prime time address on tuesday. do you think if they had to it do over again they might have waited on prime time address? because the president might have to come back to american people and for more sup snort. >> yes. you know, it's amazing thing about it is that what a community organizer is supposed to be great at.
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organizing. >> one thing. >> well, one thichblgt one qualification he had like everybody else, a total exaggeration. one thing he can't do. he's a disgrace to community organizers. i don't know. one thing i want ta talk about confiscating weapons from syria might be harder than it is to just bomb them. that is like your cable company going take the box. sooner or later they're going to get the box back. >> i think they're slipping away fast. they had to try to stop him before he was knocked out of the senate. >> i think they've done that. >> stop the bleeding is a long way from full support. i guess we'll get reports tomorrow on how that went. weerp going continue our analysis and later, tomorrow's anniversary of the benghazi terrorist attacks.
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welcome back to a special edition of "the five". president obama trying to make the case why we should get involved in seara. listen. >> why should we get involved at all at a place so complicated and one person wrote to me those who come after assad may be enemies of human rights? >> it's true. some of assad opponents are extremists. and al qaeda will only draw strength engineer a more chaotic syria if people there see the world as doing nothing from preventing innocent civilians from being gassed to death. majority of the syrian people just want to live in peace. with dignity and freedom. >> i think we just want to live in peace in america, as
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well. the president said that, al qaed qa will only draw strength engineer a more chaotic seara. is bombing assad going to bring stability to syria? >> we're bombing his delivery mechanisms for chemical weapons. i think what he's saying here is that the chances of having chemical weapons used against the united states is lessened by doing this action. >> he said majority of the syrian people just want to live in peace. is it our job to make sure every other sovereign nation lives in peace. >> if you listen to the speech he said we're not the world's policeman. we're not the world's policeman. what is interesting to me as well as hypocrisy on a couple different levels. what he said about u.s. exceptionalism in the last
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couple years sort of apologized for a flexing our muscles now he's making that case. if you look back dana says let's pretend you didn't hear anything he said up until this point. i knew he was so against what george w. bush was doing. so unabashedly against everything george w. bush was doing i would say that is hypocritical. he believed the kountd tri is stronger when acting through congress. i don't think anyone watching, democrañ, republican, independent believes that that is the way he feels. i can go on and on. and i did think his best line was this, our troops would not have to face chemical weapons. that hit me. great line, though. >> probably -- . >> our military, that is not an immediate concern. >> we have a couple minutes left. president obama says our
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military great doesn't do pin pints points but what is a small tack? >> i thought a pin prick was a guy that cheats at bowling. just because someone gives you the keys to a ferrari doesn't mean you can drive. he looks cool in the driveway but once the car gets on the road, the gears start screwing up, people just drive past him. the person that drove past him was putin. >> dana can i get you to weigh in. >> bob, don't explode. bob is praying. >> here is president obama explaining how he's going promise no boots on the ground. >> i will not put american boots on the ground in seara. this will be a targeted strike. detering use of chemical weapons and degrading assad capabilities. some members of congress have said there no point in doing a pin prick strike in seara. let
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me make something clear. the united states military doesn't do pin pricks. >> this is again the president leading with the fact is going to be limited. he's not leading that it will be effective. i'm still missing okay -- how are we going to chaimpkt situation? i believe it's in america's interest if chemical weapons are used that there would be a response in the united states. i believe that. what i don't understand also, is that while they're going to do this diplomatic dance secretary kerry will go to do with putin where is the political solution? we've been talking about military solution. what is left of simple society in syria, to try to help bring along a government so we don't have to fight this war, i believe him, i believe president obama. he says he doesn't have intentions of putting boots on the ground. i am afraid if we do not deal
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with the separation swaigs now, that it might be the next president who has to make a tougher decision down the road. >> you can make the argument there was not a single sentence that left an indication we're going to war orks trying to upset the balance of the sport. >> yes. i'm saying -- . >> i'm talking about what eric said. ghog there trying to change -- . >> that is a problem. why would you go in there if you're not going to -- . >> we don't do pin pricks? >> you said we're going to war and trying to be stabilized. >> if we can drop bombs on a country that has nothing to could with you right now is that not an act of war? >> i think it's not a declaration of war. >> pearl harbor? a act of sfwhar. >> idea you can sit here and say this guy was not deserve to have some -- he's broken international treaty. >> if you have prove he's gassed his own people then
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take him out. that is not a proposal on the table. you said we're going to confiscate his chemical weapons. >> it's going to take a fewer group and. >> i think american people are very scared. i think very scared and watched polls and they've seen a president contradict in the evening his own secretary of state. and bob couldn't articulate a specific end game and plan b. >> we'll have to leave it there. some republican reap yax toess. you'll hear from rand paul when we come right back.
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welcome back to "the five" as expected tonight the
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president asked congress to delay votes on syria as process plays out does that matter? republican senator rand paul has been a skeptic and is still not convinced. here is his reaction earlier on fox news. >> your thoughts on the president's address? >> it didn't quite convince meechl what he needed to layout for american public was a compelling american interest or national security interest in seara. there was an atrocity committed and i think it's awful on top of another 100,000 people killed previously by conventional weapons but there are islamic rebels would destabilize assad would be an advantage. >> if you're a member of congress your blood has to be boiling. some members had a firm stance, asking questions others had to go back to their districts and got an earful from their
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constituents almost felt they had to go on the record now saying wait a minute. thanks for going on the record. thanks for rallying to support me, but hold on. just wait in this plays out. don't you think things are frustrated right now? >> one of the most interesting members of congress has been the republican from illinois who is a guy who says i'm willing to support the president. calls the white house. now, he's on their radar screen and they're yut liszing him as well as tom cotton. he by the way is running for senate. i think all of the members were put on the spot. some of them, like senator mccollski might have ended up supporting the president anyway. she came out yesterday and said she'd support the president on a vote which then, i guess put others in a position of them having to make a decision. now, the president is saying
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they don't have to make the decision at least not yet. i don't want the president to be humiliated in front of the world, i want the president to be strong but i do wonder about letting congress off the hook. >> don't i think that is why he left them off the hook? he looked at tallies and is saw he wasn't going to pass the house? maybe not the senate? >> let's hold off on the vote tally. maybe he's trying to buy time to get solutions but i spoke to rand paul he said if assad is response yinl sh he should be killed, point blank but rand paul can not see commit higz son or any one else's son or daughter to committing to a war we shouldn't be involved in. and saying yes it's bad going on there. it's not our war.
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>> and it won't be our war. this has nothing to do with our war. we're not going get into this thing. we're trying to -- everyone of america's enemies if we didn't do anything al qaeda skt rest of the terrorist groups are watching this is saying fine. the united states snot going to react. now, if we do take out this delivery system maybe they will. >> i will go with bob if just remain consistent about that. the fact is that it's -- who cares if the world hates the world's policeman. at least they respect him of they hate the world referees now we're the world's rev ree. the world's cop is a revy with a gun. we should think about other a-holes around the world we should be taking out as well that we know we can take out and can strike fear in people.
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taking out ire yawnin nukes or visiting north korea starting to actually clean up the place, the way a policeman does, rather than just play around. or, you take the libertarian route and say built a moat and forget bit. which is impossible in this world. >> i'm moving towards that. we start to show a couple years ago and you were the keeper of libertarian idols. i'm, i think that, greg, that ideology i liked a lot better. >> and the problem is that we can't afford, the world is now a phone booth. >> there is also a -- you mentioned a-hole there's is al qaeda in seara. why aren't we talking about perhaps bombing them? don't you think, we don't know where they are. >> no. there are 1200 group there's. >> we don't know where they are cnn and other news networks
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and you said people don't like a cop, people also don't like a chump. all vladimir putin wants to do is keep his naval base in that area. he just humiliated the president again by saying that. we have to wait to see what john kerry does. >> if assuming chemical weapons are taken out of there, you don't have to be-to-have military action. isn't that the best outcome? >> the worst thing about john kerry he made so many mistakes now that is not a mouth that is a foot locker. >> there are only eight legislative days left since the end of the month. i do think that the president has exhausted congress a little bit already. they haven't gotten started with the session and i think that the republicans goring to ask for a president obama if
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he cares about the military to replace the money that was lost in the sequester in this deal. >> that would be great. >> it costs us about $150 million a week, a week zwrouft put our military and you know, less than an hour from now, it will be the 12-year anniversary of the september 11th attacks. and the first anniversary of the attack on our consulate in ben gazy. will the president keep his promise to bring the killers of the americans to justice? we'll debate it on "the five".
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>> tomorrow marks the first anniversary ever the attack in benghazi,. this is something we care about. way more than we should according to the mocking horrors on the left. it's only been a year, took us a decade to get bin laden at least president bush acted quickly to hit the save havens of terrorist autos what difference does it make? >> translation get off our backs, what do you expect from us anyway. we hear energy exerted on tragedy. >> a.chiefs smudge nothing except sounding fury. when did that crap start? before the obama election. the benghazi cover up was handy work of a compliant media willing to hold back until obama got elected in our daily lives we call this
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looking the other way. we do it for co-workers who screw up, here we call it scummy. so happy anniversary to all of you who took one for your favorite professor. you didn't find a truth but you gained a really cool pal. >> you're inaccurate in that. >> i give george bush for tracking down terrorists. obama administration has taken out more terrorists by farks not even close. >> he took swift action after september 11th. by the way, taking outerorist was bushes talks. >> after september 11th america was not tacked on after that until the president obama came into office. i don't know where you get that. >> i'm just saying the president. >> the president took the fight to them. you make fun of him because he had cars? >> i just said i give him credit for taking outerorist
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buzz obama took out more terrorists and had more time to do it. >> taking outerorists that matter with regard to benghazi. he pledged to bring them to justice. let's re. how did we get benghazi? he told ghaddaf fismt to step aside, and al qaeda was able to strengthen ask attack our consulate. the man who likely responsible has been seen sipping mango juice by the "new york times", he's done interviews and says the u.s. government hasn't come to find him. he's willing to sit down with them, we get a sealed indictment a bunch of bs from the department of justice. captured snimial? no effort to get him z chris wallace asked the national security advisor what is taking so long? his response? we're looking for him. that response infuriating.
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>> makes my blood boil this president pushed aside a leader in order to have al qaeda drive up and now, is push fog do it again. >> what you do you guys think? >> kad daufy one of the great terrorists in the world. >> one of the great? or worst? he takes look, president came in and he was please stand by, this is a test going to retool his whole terror infrom a structure. you realize it was elaborate. that he needed bush's infrom a structure. sure, he killed a lot of terrorists. but they're all, all that intel was initially dug up by the bush administration.
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he have to admit that part of it now. >> i think i started my conversation saying i gave bush a lot of credit. >> can i just bring dana here before we go? do you think killers will be brought to justice. >> i think they hope it just goes away. i hope they go for the families sakes. i still remember how chilling that the united states government supposedly the leader of the free world used an excuse of freedom of expression ended up being fake, i'm talking about the video to blame the attack and deaths of those four american that's was not true. we don't have answers on that and they hope it will go away. i don't think it will. i think the reason they're attacked on -- because of a symbolic -- tacked 12 years ago here in new york city. >> i will predict everyone responsible for that will be taken out or brought to justice by the end of the year. >> okay. if you're right i
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will buy you a nonalcoholic beverage of your choice. >> coming up, polls now closed in new york city. voters collected a democratic candidate for mayor. have they sent anthony weiner back to the hole he crawled out of? stay tuned.
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it's close to midnight here in new york city. it was primary day for the race for mayor. despite a bizarre fantasy he might get voted back into office anthony weiner was forced to concede tonight. >> we might have come a little short in this campaign. but we're all unified in that fight. if we keep fight asking i hope you will, if you keep fighting, i'm going to keep fighting because we're going to keep new york the capitol of the middle class for years still to come. thank you slch -- very much. >> may that be the last bit of videotape we ever have to see from the weeb weiner man. the guy has been a disgrace to
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my party. weiner boy, go find something to do, okay? >> hopefully the last video and picture we'll see. but did he really have to say "come up short" on live tv. >> did you really just say that? >> comes up short. >> okay. i like it. myself. it's one of the things i get yelled at if i said it. >> he just said it. >> i understand that. but never mind. anybody -- right now blasio is in first place with 40% of the vote. so that is 11% out. >> right. 11% left. he's got 40 at the latest. yeah. yeah. >> okay. now, i know you're going to miss the weiner. a lot. >> you can't make this stuff up. >> yes. >> i mean this is what
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happened when put us on at 11:00. >> i know. it's also what happens when -- . >> come on, bob. >> what have you got. >> what we are going to talk about? the only reason america he cared is because they wanted to see what else was going to happen with him. his wife subject of a lot of talk during the race. she was not with him tonight when he conceded. i think he's been through a lot. but i predict she will be on the front cover of women magazines. >> you never know. couples have a -- anyway, greg. >> first of fall you would run for mayor like you promised to do then backed off. >> i have more intelligence in my clockit than a medical college. >> right. >> do you what is going to to be ne.s? television. he's qualified he's self absorbed and can't do real
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work. he'd fit in at any network. >> and his hair. >> and academia, which he'll have access to all of the young girls which is scary. >> or a photography class. >> yes. photography class. >> maybe not hillsdale. >> we can ek run a womens' health clinic. >> okay. one more thing sup next. >> p um... where's mrs. davis? she took an early spring break thanks to her double miles from the capital one venture card. now what was mrs. davis teaching? spelling. that's not a subject, right? i mean, spell check. that's a program. algebra. okay. persons a and b are flying to the bahamas. how fast will they get there? don't you need distance, rate and...
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caution... >> you're about to enter the 11:00 p.m. five. the five. okay. eric? >> all righty. it's about four minutes until september 11th. so do you feel bad guys are laughing at us? so on the 12th anniversary of the day america lost our innocence, patriot bikers were denied to ride. second we have a nobel peace prize president peddling war on a sovereign nation and susan rice will brief congress. it's the one-year anniversary of attacks on benghazi. time to take back our country from these clowns, folks never forget. >> very clever way to do four
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things. i admire it, i do. bob? >> do i have time left some. >> yes. go. >> i want to congratulate very unusual position but congratulate the speaker mr. boehner for having the courage and morality to stand up and support the president of the united states in what is an essential cause. anyone who doesn't do that, well, i'll let that go. >> andrea? >> first i'd like to congratulate joe loda for winning republican primary in new york city. he wouldn't tonight. congratulations, joe. also i have no information about my one more thing but i'm just going to show thu picture, imagine being this man. this is his mailbox. i don't know what his name s but... >> okay we don't have his name. check it out this, is the bowling household.
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this is his neighbor getting mail for him. gun enthusiast getsmate mailbox in the shape of a gun. now we know what to get you for christmas. >> all right. second phrase of the day. i'm get sick of this. it's he said it. it means finding a solution to a tough problem. it's a way to say that? finding a solution to a tough problem. don't say it anymore. if i hear you saying it again, i'm going to hunt you down and hang you by your toe nail autos running out of ideas. >> you did news. >> on glebal warming right. >> news that is not really news. >> right. thanks dane yeah -- dana. >> here is mine. >> that is annoying. >> yes. >> is anyone hearing that? i'm not crazy. i'm not.
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okay points of light foundation gave an award to victor cruz, he's the wide receiver for new york giants. he's an amazing guy got the daily points of light award today for awful the volunteer work he does. and of course points of light started by george hw bush they had a national day 6 service and a big campaign called one america. >> wow. >> yes. >> we have 50 seconds left. >> yes. >> in this hour. >>. >> i didn't know. >> because i wanted to you wear it. we've got this from a fan. it's a hat with a picture. it's almost midnight we're going to turn into pumpkins. >> okay. >> can i put it on? >> spitzer lost. >> maybe weiner can put this on for you?. >> what? he what?
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>> he didn't hear that. >> it's fine. >> do you think i'll ever after the fact at 11:00 p.m. >> that is it for "the five". thanks for watching. we'll see you tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern. ha this is a fox news alert. any minute now republican senator rand paul will give his response to president obama's address on the syriansea crisis. senator paul is an outspoken opponent of u.s. strikes in syria. we will bring his speech lives as soon as it happens. right now karl rove joins us.no karl, first,w, your reaction to the speech by the president. >> let's say the spinnings iesid liked he gave a concise explanation of why this was an america security interest and how this was a violation of international norms. he confronted some questions and concerns that people have, slippery slope, is it going to be better or

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