strength. [ bellstolo poltolling ] it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." today we hear never forget a lot. but it's meaningless if you elect those who minimize the challenge. you don't pay tribute to victims by indulging dopes who make it easier to do it again. what are the challenges? to maintain total vigilance in spite of political correctness? to reject the fear of being called a name for speak up? to defend law enforcement entrusted to do a job no one really wants to do. do you want to stake out a mosque? but never mistake a period of

calm as a failure by terrorists. you spend 40 years on a career, they spend 40 years trying to kill you. terror is their vocation, and they can be bad at it. but one good day, boom. 9/11 should be a remembrance of the dead but also applying memory to the present task, a renewal of the will. the will to kill creeps with the same disdain shown while crushing a roach. you can't say never again until feelings are trumped by ferocity and soft targets are protected by sturdy spines. evil from the outside relies on weakness within. a weakness that stems from a spine-sapping post-modern hate for exceptionalism which says, just say yes to our own demise. here's a line from the presidential proclamation in honor of 9/11. it goes, "today we can honor those we lost by building a nation worthy of their memories." building a nation worthy of their memories. don't we have that already? my read is this, the nation's not perfect so we must be bad. but accept the vision of a new

america we become good, which is why the administration doesn't mind most things. the doj, benghazi, the shelf life of these things only last for so long. but you know what lasts forever? social change in government, syria distracts from us those big ticket items. and syria will pass. but the desire for fundamental change, that will still burn. never forget that, either. so kg? >> that was pretty good. >> thank you. chapter one? was that too long for you, bob? >> it was just fine, greg. i had a chance to take a nap in the middle. >> that's pleasant. the paradox, kimberly, if the war on terror ever ends, then terror starts up again. there is no end. >> it's an impossible end. it's futile to think it would ever end. what i love about this country is we've proved ourselves over time and time again that we have courage, that we stand for principles, that this is a

country that is exceptional in every way. and we will prove and continue to do so long after this presidency and the administration is gone. >> eric, do you think we have a choice at all in this? i mean, we can never dial it back, really. >> i think we do, greg. the topic of the monologue, does america still have the will to fight, to destroy our enemies, islamic jihadists. i sent my son joe to school this morning, 15 years old. i thought if we were to continue to get involved in these things in the middle east would i want my son to go into that? the answer is unequivocally no. i don't want him in a fight we don't belong in if it's to defend freedom, the republic, our way of life that maybe would be a medicine i could possibly swallow. but certainly not throwing my son into a civil war between two muslim groups who frankly both hate us. they both want to kill us. don't get me wrong, i think both sides would have the end of america if they could.

maybe barack obama and the rest of the old school bombs away crew might think about that. look at their kids and say would i want my son in that fight or my daughter in that fight? the answer has to be an unequivocal no. the world's changed. we don't need to flex our military muscle on everything now. maybe we try flexing our economic muscle. maybe we get our economic muscles strong. >> in iraq would you want your son to go there? >> afghanistan was in response to 3,000 americans getting killed in 9/11. i watched them. afghanistan defense our freedom and our republic. >> what do you say, bob? >> well, i certainly think that there is no doubt that there are lots and lots of terrorists out there that want to douse in. i think our biggest single enemy is china. i've said this over and over again. much bigger than islamists because they are waiting. they are patient and they want to take over as the superpower. but having said that, i think there's a certain point where we've built up such an enormous

intelligence organizations, many of them, layer upon layer upon layer upon layer, they think are redundant and are not necessary. and i certainly don't think it's necessary to put jersey walls around the lincoln memorial. that's what bothers me. if you talk about winning, they've won by making us alter our way of life. i don't think it's necessary. >> dana, you want to talk about the speech a little bit? >> sure. >> yesterday during the break you said how similar president obama's approach to defending an attack on syria was to bush's argument for the surge. and sam thiesen had a piece today which compared what you tell us, compared the speech. >> it was actually during our 11:00 p.m. show last night, for which i was awake. i was listening to one of the sound bites from president obama's speech. and i said out loud, even though you conned hear me, i said oh, that's the same argument that was made for the surge, the one he argued against. sort of an off-hand comment. and i understand that presidents once they get into the oval

office your view changes and everything. but what's interesting is mark thiesen a speech writer for the bush administration, now is a columnist for the "washington post" and writes for american enterprise institute, he goes back. because he wrote the surge speech for president bush. it was part of a big team that worked on it. that speech went through many iterations. last night's speech takes wholesale paragraphs from that speech that president obama argued against and puts it into obama's own words. >> they did that thing everybody does when they're cheating on a book report. they moved the words around to it's not technically -- but it was emblematic of a really good harvard student. you cheat on the mid terms. it's weird. you can tell that the words -- it was the structure of the speech. >> you don't have to go to harvard to cheat. >> that's true, bob. >> thanks for that contribution, bob. >> kimberly, you weren't here last night to talk about this. i want to go to assad. this is from last night, obama talking about ending and

starting wars. >> i know that after the terrible toll of iraq and afghanistan, the idea of any military action, no matter how limited, is not going to be popular. after all, i've spent 4 1/2 years working to end wars, not to start them. >> shaking your head, kg. that can't be good. >> well, it's not. when i shake my head, that's the look of disapproval. because he's actually had his finger in all the little war pies. when you think about it, he's been quite involved in a number of these conflicts. but i think he believes that if he says it isn't so that he is the great peace-making president that people might believe it. also the fact he was rewarded with a noble peace prize without any accomplishment to substantiate it or that was warranted for also helps him believe this. i mean, he just feels it he says it, it's in the prompter so it's fact. >> you don't believe the american people are a little war weary after all the amount of time? >> right. but i'm talking about the credit he gives himself.

on one hand he can say he's incredibly strong and powerful and everybody fears us because of him, which isn't true. on the other hand he can say he's the great peacemaker, that he's tried to clean up the mess of administrations and presidents past who have been the warmongers. not barack obama. i'm terribly myth understood. will my left-leaning liberals from hollywood come back to hug me? >> i don't think that's what he said at all. >> that's why we have this great show. we can't disagree. >> bob, you mentioned something, you said china wants to be the world's superpower. but you don't hear china getting involved in these things. they're not doing it through a show of strength militarilmilit. we've dropped to number five in the global economic power list. number five. we were number one until president obama took over around 2010 we started to slide. we're number ten in the economic freedom. our education system is in shambles. we're 12th in reading and 25th in math globally. we have problems at hope that we would be much smarter focusing on rather than focusing on some

stupid civil war in the middle east. between again, between two groups that frankly would like to see the american way no longer the american way. >> we don't pay attention to the chinese. the chinese are drawing aircraft carriers. >> trying to bomb us? >> i think they'll do everything they can in a short period of time to rise of the southeast asia including japan and south korea. we're not in a position to deal with it. >> right now in the immediate presence time you have russia supplying missile systems to iran. is this a reset button, dana? >> it's more like a delete button. >> it's the not easy button, that's for sure. i also think that president obama is going to open itself up to a smaller debate in legal circles. he said something last night. matthew waxman of the la fair blog wrote "president obama said that the war making power in the hands of the president has expanded in the past decade." that means a lot. was he trying to signal something? a lot of people, constitutional

lawyers, disagree with the constitutional lawyer that is the president on that point. but i think that that might be a thread that some of the -- on capitol hill that they try to pull. >> greg, you said something yesterday which i think makes some sense here. i am against -- i'm in favor of doing a punitive strike on syria. but i do think we ought to not have to wait for the iranians to get these weapons. i do with the israelis we ought to bomb their facilities and slow them down another five or six years. >> i think that a president, or israel, if those sites were that easy to bomb i think that would have been done already. like the syria one that was bombed, the one that they were making with the north decreeako and israel bombed it. that was a target of opportunity that was clear and they were able to do it. the world was silent about it. even assad was quiet about it because they knew they'd been caught. i think in iran it's not as clearcut as all of us sitting

around here should say we should just bomb them. >> the difference was that was presumably a power plant out there easily to be bombed. the only way we can do bunker busting bombs bombs the israelis do not have. that means we need to supply those bombs. >> you're trying to say the israel his don't have the capability to take on rainiiran nuclear? >> no. >> i think you're wrong. we should pat the israelis on the back and say have whatever you need but go ahead and do them. >> train them to fly b 1s and send them over there. >> bob is like obama. he's like i'm the great peacemaker. i'm against war. bomb iran, bomb syria. anybody anymore bombs. bob's become bully bob. >> are you afraid the syrians are going to create nuclear weapons? >> of course i'm worried. i want to do more than worry about it. i think we should exhaust all diplomatic means to do so, put pressure on russia, have russia get them to cooperate and make sure that these weapons are

destroyed and have them sign on to the treaties that. would be a start. >> can we point something else out bob on this attack? there's no regime change. this attack was supposed to take out delivery systems, not replace assad still a crazy whacked out dictator. >> with hidden weapons. >> access to biological, chemical and potentially as you point out maybe something nuclear. who knows? i find it very interesting we can't open our white house doors because of sequestration. 17 grand a week is just too damn much but we'll spend 150 million bucks a week, a week, loading up the mediterranean and the middle east with destroyers, aircraft carriers, amphibious vehicles just off beat chance president obama decides. >> these ships are all at sea. it costs them no matter whether they're in the mediterranean or atlantic or pacific. it costs money to run those ships. >> it costs more to put them at high alert. and also if they're there there's somewhere else they probably could be might be

needed somewhere elsewhere there is a threat to america. what do you think, dana? >> i was going to mention the other thing assad has right now, it could be one of the ways to get at him, he has money. >> yeah. >> so from the financial standpoint, what can we do to be able to cut off his supply of money? because without money you can't buy these type of things. unfortunately if putin is going to be in charge, and assad is his puppet, then the money flow is not going to end. >> his money has been cut off by the world community. they've frozen syrian bank accounts. >> is that why his wife is on fabulous shopping trips in london? >> no. i think it's because the russians continue to supply them with money. >> that's what i mean. now we have put our trust and we're supposed to believe that president putin is acting in our best interests? >> i think he's acting in his own best interests. >> then why did the president put us on the line and give all that power over to putin? >> you're talking about getting a resolution. >> he says from the east room, we'll see if putin agrees with

it. that is a remarkable turn of events in a couple of years. >> they want to get a u.n. resolution that everybody can agree on, and the russians will veto it if we don't get one they can agree on. >> russia and china. that's interesting. >> let's take a break, shall we? scintillating. ahead on "the five" family members of americans killed in benghazi want answers from the administration and justice for they loved ones. you'll hear from them next. with the spark cash card

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for a store near you go to benjaminmoore.com/bayarea. welcome back. as you know, today is 9/11. a year ago ambassador chris stevens, ty wood, glen doherty and shawn smith were killed by islamic terrorists in benghazi. the victims's families are still searching for answers and justice. shawn smith's mother and uncle are unhappy with how the administration has handled the situation and she spoke earlier. >> he promised me face-to-face at the casket ceremony he would give me answers. he did not. i don't know what you want me to say. i did not get any answers yet. there is nobody in washington

giving me any answers. other than the media. >> in some ways it's a little too late. i want justice. but i also want truth and accountability. and that's been missing in action for the past year. the obama administration has been dragging its heels. >> so those are grieving people that are asking for answers. and it seems, kimberly, that the government doesn't seem to have -- they don't feel an obligation to get answers for them. i think that they are hoping that this story just goes away. but here we are a year later and of course still talking about it. >> it's so embarrassing. it's so shameful. i feel horrible as an american that this is what has happened to these family members that have kindly asked for some answers, that were promised that face-to-face and still no justice, no answers. and how about the recognition for those heroes that fought so valiantly waiting for backup that never came because a stand down order was given? to me it's shameful. something should be done about this. benghazi should never be forgotten. as americans we shouldn't allow

it. it's an injustice that we allow to prevail that should have never happened to begin with. >> something there was a development today and steve hayes of fox news and a weekly standard got a scoop yesterday about a letter that john brennan sent to the house intel chairman, mike rogers, who's been asking for an opportunity to talk to some of the survivors. this is steve earlier today with that announcement. >> the weekly standard we got a letter that john brennan sent to house intel committee chairman mike rogers answering some specific questions about claims that some of the benghazi survivors had been forced to sign nondisclosure agreements or forced to take polygraphs. brennan denies those allegations. and then in the most interesting part of the letter at the very end brennan says in effect, i will help put you in touch with all of the survivors. >> what do you think brought that about, eric, this development? >> i don't know. so we understand, so these survivors that everyone's been looking for and wanting to speak to for a year now have had to

sign disclosures that they will not disclose what they know, what they don't know. and they were pretty harsh. if i remember right they were getting leaned on pretty heavily not to say a word about what's going on, they would be held in contempt and things like that. so they laid off. i'm trying to figure out why they're going to let it happen now. very interestingly, too, dennis mcdonagh, chief of staff of the white house, tells chris wallace on fox news sunday, you don't know what's going on. you don't know how much we really know and we're about to get these guys. it's a year. how about you tell us? how about you let us know how close you are, what you have. because bob, you're ready to go kill someone in syria on one hand without all the information, but we're a year into this and allegedly a year into an investigation you have a lot going on behind the scenes and nothing's happening in benghazi. >> you benghazi conspiracy theorists first of all we don't know what's going on. you can't call it an injustice when you don't know what they're doing. >> i know we don't have the answers we should have, that

it's taken way too long and they've been disrespectful to the dead. >> wait a minute. most conspiracy theorists said these people had to take polygraph tests, they didn't have to. now they'll be september to capitol hill where they'll be under oath. if they lie about not taking a polygraph they're subject to be indicted. the fact is that they weren't polygraphs, they were not doing all these horrible things that the right wing said they were doing. >> why the delay? >> why? >> because they're they're trying to put together a case, that's why. >> that doesn't make any sense. >> bob says that there are conspiracy theorists when it comes to benghazi. i have a theory. >> yes. >> that the white house has done some polling. they've figured out internally that the only people that care about this are on the right. and so we can just weather this storm and wait until it goes away. >> i think that's a good theor , dana. i'm quite surprised you came up with this. this story has fnc cocooties.

a vic victim of the media who are covering this constantly. it's a personal matter to them. i'm not doing that story in the conservative media is doing it. seriously nobody's asking where hillary clinton is in all of this. she's waldo in a pants suit. she has more baggage on this than louis vuitton. i don't know how she's going to get the nomination unless the media again does her the favor of not talk about it. >> a little convoluted there. if the media actually followed the story she wouldn't get the nomination. but they're not going to follow it so she probably will. >>ies that? to find out what? >> hillary clinton in 2016. if you don't think that's everything this has to do with protecting her and the clintons. [ overlapping speakers ] >> the denial of the request for security by the ambassador. look, brett bair on special report we believe that went up

to the high levels. the highest? i don't know. there's that. then second part is the blaming of the video which turns ou far >> and tells the family members in delaware at dover when the bodies were flown back, we're going to get the guy who made this video. it was a made-up story from the beginning. >> but i think they finally owned up to that. >> they did not. >> spontaneous uprising based on a video not something that was a plan in the works. [ overlapping speakers ] >> that was not the case and they accept that. this was a way to get through the election. that's why they kept it quiet. >> i agree. they kept it quiet. >> that's why the the conspiracy theory. >> that's the reality. >> you know what is a reality is that someone had to give the stand down order. whether you like it or not, that stand down order, when we find out who gave it, changed the -- that's military people. that's the one thing that bothers them most about benghazi. isn't about the other stuff, the

video, it's that someone gave a stand down order. it changed the way we've done military for 237 years. in benghazi someone in the administration changed things. they left four people attacked. >> 22 hearings has not been able to figure that out yet? >> they haven't been able to provide them. that's a significant thing in the hayes reports they are going to. >> there'll be a hearing next week that darrel issa chairs. i had three things then i had one of those moments where you forgot the third thing. you remembered it. it was the stand down order. >> good job. >> those three things. 1, 2, 3. >> you can count too. >> i can count as well. coming up a big win for second amendment advocates in colorado. two politicians recalled from office after pushing gun control. the political ramifications extend well beyond colorado and we're going to talk about it next on "the five."

bad news for anti-gun activists. two democrat lawmakers in colorado including the president of the state senate were recalled tuesday in elections brought about by the support for tougher gun control laws. john morris and angela guirron were both defeated in special elections. these democrats held seats in very blue districts. one district president obama held by almost 20% in last year's presidential election. colorado voters on both sides of the aisle have spoken and they seem to be saying, long live the second amendment. that translates, bob, into viva la nra. what do you say? >> well, let me just say as a former campaign person, when you have a turnout of less than 15% in one district and less than 10% in another, you're going to get the people who are organized nra put a lot of money into this thing. the gun nuts were organized and they came out and voted.

but you're talking about such a few percentage of the people, normal voting in an average congressional district is 300,000, right? >> the anti-gun nuts, bloomberg put in like $350,000 and they couldn't gin up support. >> you're right. colorado's not exactly a state you want to test your -- >> bob, colorado 3, which is angela guirron's district, president obama held by almost 20% in the presidential election. >> look at the turnout. >> whatever. she lost by 13% -- 12%. >> i'm just saying when you get very small turnouts you can change things very quickly, numbers. >> yes. >> they lost. >> done with the watering down? >> anyone else want to jump in here? >> yeah. >> i like this. because some people vote with their pocket books and these people voted with therapies tolls. mass shootings are horrible but they are rare. gang violence is horrible but common. so why the focus on colorado and places like that and not

chicago? not atlanta? not detroit? not d.c.? there are places where actions could save lives, but because of political correctness you can't go there. so focus on rifle crimes which are rare, not gang bangers. >> they're totally missing the point. because of that, public safety and communities suffer. because they're not getting it. they're thinking about what's politically correct. they're not even equipping themselves with the facts. in the meantime they're becoming so ill-informed and out of touch with the voters and their constituents that they are going to get yanked out of office. >> congressional district in maine. >> hold your thought, bob. i want to get kimberly in here. >> 2014, what does that say for people running -- democrats running? >> we're thinking a lot alike today. i was just writing down that what i heard from pueblo, colorado, i still have a couch friends there. they said angela guirron, her whole campaign was totally surprised by this, taken

unaware. what does that mean in other places? new gun laws that were going to be the hallmark of this year failed in congress after the big by d biden push? you remember that? that didn't work for them in the states. where do you go? we were talking yesterday that probably immigration is not going to happen in an election year, 2014. so i actually don't know if you are running for congress as a democrat in 2014 in that mid-term, what your platform is. >> hang in there. bob, i'm sorry twice. don't be mad. watch this sound bite. this is great. this is beautiful. watch. >> poor bob. >> we have seen a substantial change in the views of the american people on common sense measures to reduce gun violence. >> if there's one thing i know, the public has changed. the nation has changed. and whether it's tomorrow or the next month or next year, we are eventually going to reflect the view of the american public and the laws that we pass. >> right now, 90% of americans,

90%, support background checks that will keep criminals and people who have been found to be a danger to themselves or others from buying a gun. >> 90%. 90%. >> bob? >> i have nothing to say. >> he has nothing to say? >> it shows the gulf between the coastal elites and the rest of america. coastal elites look at guns and see them as these independent forces that are inherently evil. the rest of america cease them as, i don't know, slightly louder hammers. they're things that you have in your house that you keep under lock and key that are valuable. >> let me give you some coastal states. virginia, north carolina, south carolina, georgia? >> talk about new york and california. >> why don't you say that as opposed to west coast and east coast. >> i added elites. and boston. >> all politics is local, bob. >> i did want to point out before i was rudely interrupted --

>> we've got to leave it there. ahead "the five" 2 million biker rally rolls and roars into our nation's capitol on the anniversary -- >> are we going to talk about that? >> yes, we are. talking about it live in the anniversary of 9/11 without a permit but with a whole lot of patriotism. i'm glad to announce the million muslim march wait for it barely gets a turnout. we have pictures.

♪ let me ask a question. for all the parents out there, do you give your kids an allowance? well, my son ronan is six and he gets $5 a week. but there's some debate about whether children should get allowance at all. some studies finding that free

dough could negatively impact kids in the long run. that's why nothing is free in life. you have to tell your little munchkins that they have to work for it. long hours, hard hours taking out the garbage, clean up their toys, clean their rooms. greg? >> with my captain sparkle, my ferret, he gets an allowance. he has to do some grooming, my grooming. you get something for nothing you create a zero. kids need to understand value, things cost something. out of the womb you give them a broom. >> that was good. did you work on that? >> teach them something. >> why pay them to do things they should be doing part of a family? >> when you're little they don't even remember if they got it or not. >> they learn how to manage money. i never got a dime for when i was a kid. i had to work for it.

but i spoil my kids. i'm like an atm machine. they don't say hello, they don't say nothing. hey dad, they get money. >> i give them tooth fairy money. he's losing a lot of teeth so he gets a lot of money. >> oh, my gosh, really? >> oh, man. >> batter up. >> okay. so again, it may have something to do with our upbringing. grew up absolutely dead poor broke and worked for everything i got. and i think i'm failing. i'll be honest with you. i'm failing as a parent to my son because i give him just about everything he wants. do i reward him when he brings home good grades. i give him extra stuff. >> he's an honor student, though, and a athlete. >> but you know what, kg, he doesn't work. he doesn't have any jobs around the house. >> don't you have a chart on the refrigerator for the chores, put a little star on it? >> i should and i fail. >> who takes out the trash?

>> i do. i have some work around my apartment i need if he's available. >> oh, wow. don't send him there. >> i'll tell you one thing, if greg keeps kicking this table we're going to be like flat out on the floor. >> oh, my gosh. >> why do you keep kicking the table like this like nervous energy or something? >> that's a challenge right there, buddy. >> the one thing about kids, kids do not know how to manage money. when you give them this money, no such thing as a budget. my kid i tried to get my kid to write a check out. he couldn't figure out how to write a check. >> they're not going to need to write checks, right? they're just going to need to figure out how to do it on their phone. >> how can you write a check now? i cannot write in handwriting. i try. i can't remember how to do it when you have to write out like $300. >> how do you spell that number? >> it is hard to spell numbers. >> what about paying for success? meaning if your kid brings home an a, some parents like okay, i'll give you $50 for an a, $5 for a d.

>> i would have been rich. >> now he's 15 so he's looking at cars now. >> you going to buy him a car? >> i want that car. that car looks good, dad. i'm like that will be 4 as, 6 as, 8 as. >> a car for grades? >> but my dad got me a dodge dart for $1500. >> i want to see your signature. >> right. >> same thing i do. >> it's a mess. >> mine is actually very neat. >> some people put little circles or hearts over their is? dana does that with every letter in the alphabet. make es into a little animal. >> america's little thumb pull puppet. so cute. next, you don't even note back story on this. 2 million bikers take washington by storm to drown out the noise from the million muslim march planned to distract attention away from the victims of 9/11.

don't miss it. it's straight ahead on "the five."

♪ could you stop talking in the middle of my opening here? you've been talking for the whole time. they didn't have a permit, but a sea of bikers today rolled into washington, d.c. to pay tribute to the victims of 9/11 and also to counter the so-called million muslim march planned there today. the million march actually ended up to be around 200. the biker rally had a huge

turnout despite they didn't have permission for the ride. national coordinator belinda bee on fox news earlier. >> we have a right to ride those streets. we are tax-paying americans. they can't deny us riding the streets. had they issued the permit, and had we had the police escort and assistance, we would have been done with this ride in less than i'd say three hours. now it's going to take us six, seven hours. >> well, i suppose. but the only thing i will say in defense of the parks service, they didn't know how many muslims were going to show up. what they were trying to do was avoid a great clash between these two crowds. so you can't really blame them. the muslim march was in there early and they got their permit. if i were the parks service i'd be worried about that, too. what do you say, greg? >> >> they could have made an exception on this date to honor the people we lost on 9/11. i don't think it's a bad thing. >> what about 100 muslims

walking past the biker? think they'd have made it down the block? >> that shouldn't be the reason for the permit. you have a right to demonstrate, right to show up. they have a right. they said it was going to put the city of d.c. out too much, take a couple hours to get the bikes to the city. i say on this day, don't do it on a regular saturday or sunday but on this day maybe you make an exception. >> two issues here. i think it's great that they're doing this. that the bikers are doing this. however, you're not going to get a permit for a nonstop ride in rush hour in a large city because you're going to have so many people that are going to be angry at you. if that happened in new york, if you had let's say count to 2,000 and sit at a stop sign, you're going to have a lot of peoplesi. you're going to have a lot of people ticked off at you. just for 2,000 bikers. they're calling it 2 million. if you're 2 million, you're not getting a permit. that will take you two months to

get through 6th avenue. they should worry more about the day and less about getting press because i'm tired of getting 150 tweets saying you better cover this. we were planning on cover l it, but it comes off as you're more interested in making a point than observing a solemn occasion, but you can stop now. >> what do you think? >> look, i admire their heart. their patriotism. i think it was in the right place. that's what i love about this country, when you have that spontaneous showing of faith and patriotic, i'm all for it. i've got nothing but love for the bikers. >> really? i think we should talk about one thing.

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one more thing. i'm going to kick it off.

this is some video that will make your blood boil. of former cia director, david petraeus, being chased down in the new york city streets by a student activists from city university, new york. he was on his way to teach his first class. >> you go back -- >> why -- what do you have to say? >> these people have no idea what fascism is and that this

guy has fought for their freedoms to act like d bags that they are. >> some of the faculty complained that he was going to go teach the class and they didn't want to spend the money, so he said, i'll do it for a dollar. he's coming here, putting himself out. i can't stand those students. >> no, they're bullies. >> every university in the country is like that. every one of them. >> i think the nypd, somebody should walk with him. >> i think he can take care of himself, but it took a lot of self-control not to deck one of them. >> that's true. >> dana, you're next. you can have an opinion on the biker's march if you like. >> i'm going to pass because i thought you dade great job. everybody here was great. i keep in touch with some west point grads, they're there in afghanistan, can't tell you where, can't tell you their name, but they wanted to send this today. since i have a little time to reclaim from earlier, just wanted to read one of the things he said. i was only 12 on september 11th,

but that represents everything for me. the loss of true innocence. may we never forget that. liberty too sweet a prize to give up without a fight. he always signs his e-mails, life is beautiful. what a difference compared to the students who were heckling. >> perfect juxtaposition. >> perfect point from dana peri perino. >> i was given this by the 9/11 memorial museum because i was in the building in 1993 when they bombed the building and at the world trade center when that building came down and killed 3,000 people. take a look at this picture. these are the friends i lost on 9/11. heres the names on the wall of the trading floor. 32 more names of some of my closest friends, i worked side by side with those people for

the better part of 18 years. at the better part, probably 13 years. just a sad loss and just to remember. 9/11 museum will open in the spring of 2014. bring your kids. >> a lot of those people, a lot of your friends that have had children and how in general are the families doing now? >> again, they go through the year and they deal with it and then this day is just very, very difficult for the wives and especially the kids. >> then people who complain like those students who acted so poorly and disgracefully, they don't understand sacrifice. >> they're like that at every university in america. >> on a positive note, let's say this. i think and dana, you came up with this idea, which is for people to be able to remember 9/11 in a positive way, teach your family members, your young children, those kids, mine weren't alive at the time, to know about the sacrifice at this time. make a trip to the memorial,

okay. go to new york city or go to the pentagon or shanksville, pennsylvania, and show them the history of this country and what we stand for. >> good idea. >> good idea. >> well, i'm going to end this one more thing with i think a really interesting story. afghan national soccer team -- >> yeah. >> won their very first international soccer event, southeast asian football federation and i wish you wouldn't use the football, that's our name. but i think given all the hardest they've been through and appare apparently, it brought the country together and they were very excited about it, also, they beat india, which of course -- >> that's a big rivalry. >> my favorite places. >> well, it's got -- >> we're almost there. >> it's my fault.

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