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work. martha: you know, hate to incentivize kids. bill: better than cutting grass. martha: gets them back in the door and something grabs their attention. bill: i like idea. 100 bucks. see you tomorrow. martha: see you tomorrow. have a great day. jon: bill hemmer, my first job was cutting grass, i will have you know. brand new stories and breaking news. jenna: a march to war, halted at least for now, as the focus shifts to diplomacy and whether the international community will be able to disarm syria of chemical weapons. big story today. we'll be on that. police in massachusetts searching for a man believe linked to the disappearance of the teenager on your screen. prince william wrapping up one chapter of his life to focus on very obvious one. a future king's big decision. it is all "happening now." jenna: well, some high steaks
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dip pro-- stakes diplomatic talks if there were some all "happening now." all to try to resolve the crisis in syria. the will it work is the big question? good to see you today. i'm jenna lee. jon: would it be nice if it did work? i'm jon scott. secretary of state john kerry in geneva right now with what is expected to be several days of meetings with russia's foreign minister. they would look how the international community goes about to dismantling syria's chemical weapons. the hope is an outline how a huge stockpile of chemical weapons could be destroyed in an active war zone. for the time-being russia's proposal to do so is averting a u.s. military strike on syria. leland vittert is live for us from our middle east bureau. leland? >> reporter: jon, american diplomats have described this meeting in geneva as doable but complicated in terms of coming up with a deal. you have a old-fashioned cold war showdown on our hand. we have the united states versus the russians at the negotiating table. the united states wants some
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real teeth in any kind of deal here that would prevent not only another attack bit syrians using chemical weapons, they want verification that these chemical weapons have been moved into stockpiles under international control and it would then be dismantled. conceivably some part after deal would have some kind of threat in there of military force or sanctions against syria if they don't comply with the terms of the deal and do so quickly. on the other side you have the russians who really want to try to protect their interests inside syria. they will go for as lien ant of a deal as possible. already we're seeing both side draw their lines very publicly. obviously president putin's op-ed piece in the "new york times" this morning was a very clear attempt to do that to try to influence public opinion not only in the united states but around the world in terms of the cost of a u.s. strike in trying to warn against that the russians have said the united states must take the military option completely off
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the table. we'll see if the united states agrees to that. inside syria the syrian army appears to be making some gains during their summer offensive. there has been a lot of reporting about the village of maaloula it is a christian village. 3300 christians live there. a couple of al qaeda syndicate groups, al nusra front, taking over village, threatening christians inside the village allegedly being beheaded or converting to islam. syrian state tv is reporting that the army has come back into that village as fighting street for street and taken the main town square as they try to move on. shows you how complicated situation is. no matter what happens inside geneva there is no talk any kind of a deal bringing an end to the syrian civil war, jon, which continues to rage on really unchecked for about the past 2 1/2 years. back to you. jon: leland vittert, keep an eye on it for us from our middle east bureau. jenna: we'll go back to the united states.
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oklahoma senator james inhofe, ranking member of the senate armed services committee. nice to have you on the program. >> nice to be with you, jenna. jenna: you've been critical of the president not having a long-term strategy when it comes to syria and when it comes to the middle east but our viewers don't have to look further than senators john mccain and rand paul to know that the gop is deeply divided and there is mixed messages what exactly is the goal here. what is the goal as you see it, what is the mission in syria? >> first of all, keep in mind, jenna, there is no long-term strategy. the obama strategy has changed three types in the last week. now we're sitting back and hoping that he can be bailed out by russia. and so i just, i look at this and i can't believe we're, this is taking place. to be lectured to by putin as we were this morning it's just, i can hear reagan rolling over in his grave that this would be happening. jenna: i'm sure, i'm sure viewers feel similar to that and we're going to show them some of
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the editorial if they missed it. it took a dig at american exceptionalism. sir, goes back to the other point, if there is no long-term strategy from the president as you see it what is your long-term strategy? what are you searching for in this conflict? >> the president is supposed to come up with the strategy. that is what his job. that is what the constitution says he is supposed to do. he has not done that. it makes it very difficult for us. yes, they're correct when they say we're divided. i was the first one to say i don't agree with military intervention in the middle east. i think our president is wrong in doing it. but i said there is reason nobody talks about and that reason is, in the last four 1/2 years this president has decimated our military. go back, jenna, to the first four 1/2 years ago, the first budget did away with our own fifth generation fighter. did away with our lift capacity. did away with the future combat system, ground-based interceptor in poland that is the first year. since then he has taken
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4$7 billion out the military. so we don't have the resources to go in. jenna: are you saying we're unsafe, senator? do you think we're unsafe right now because of that? >> yeah. no, i'm saying we can go in, it would be easy to send a few cruise missiles in if it would end there. you know it will not end there. it would be an act of war in the middle east. that's where we don't have the resources left. not just me saying it. our, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general dempsey, said, we're putting ourselves, military on a path wherefores is so degraded and so unready, that it would be immoral to use force. but this has never happened in america. jenna: take another quote just to counter that because that ising that general dempsey said and it does certainly send a direct message to the american people about where we're at. here is what "the wall street journal" said this week, senator. "the wall street journal" said this, failing to act now in syria doesn't mean the u.s. will not go to war again in the middle east.
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it means that when america goes to war again the costs are likely to be greater. how concerned are you about that? if we don't make the quote, unquote investment now, that we're setting ourselves up for an even worse conflict that is more costly in money and lives? >> well the investment we need to make right now is back into our military so when we're confronted with a situation like that we're going to be as we have been before. you know, i can remember people criticizing, i was opposed in the past to some of these interventions all the way back to bosnia and kosovo but at that time we had a strong military that could defend america on two fronts. we don't have that anymore. we've got to keep that in mind because people refuse to understand that we are in that situation where we're vulnerable. jenna: well, senator, as you point out many of our viewers and the majority of the american people like you do not want military intervention. with that said, are you willing to go along with president putin
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and take it completely off the table so a deal can be done? >> well, of course it is off the table anyway. the president doesn't have the votes, if he should seek congressional action to do votes. he can do it without that. but we should not do that but i'm not at all comfortable with relying on someone like putin to make our determinations as to what our position is going to be in the middle east or anywhere else in the world. keep in mind, it is putin and it's russia that have supplied syria with all of their weapons, all of their equipment, their assets necessary to inflict the damage that they're inflicting in the middle east now. also don't forget the real threat right next door, it is in iran and our intelligence told us since 2007 that they will have a, they would have a nuclear weapon and a delivery system by 2015, a year-and-a-half from now. so you can't isolate this just between russia and syria and us. jenna: as you rightly point out that's something we'll be
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talking about in just a few minutes in fact what is happening with iran and headlines coming out of there. that said, a question i asked senator manchin yesterday i would like to ask you as well. we hear time and time again, the president assad is thug, child murderer, a friend of hezbollah and certainly a partner with the largest state sponsor of terror in the world, iran. why would we want him to stay? >> why we would want assad to stay, is that what we're saying? jenna: if it is not military intervention and we don't trust the russians why would we want him to continue on and stay as leader of syria? >> we wouldn't want him. people are saying if he is replaced who will be replaced by? you saw this morning we have been sending, an of course it was classified until this morning i guess, arms into general idris who is a friend in there but we don't, we know that there are other elements that
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are part of the opposition that are probably as bad or as worse as assad. that is a complication. should we put all of that in the hands of someone i don't trust to start with, in this case it is putin? by the way the president didn't trust him either until last tuesday. jenna: senator inhofe, great o have you on the program. great to see you, sir. >> great to see you, jenna. jon: new details of a woman who is accused killing her new husband by pushing him over the cliff. what the man's friend are saying about her and her relationship. plus russia's plan to get syrian chemical weapons under control. you heard what senator inhofe thinks. can we trust this plan or russia? what are the risks? that is coming up on "happening now." the wisest kid in the whole world?
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her while the cases pending. prosecutors say 22-year-old jordan lynn graham pushed cody lee johnson over a cliff in glacier national park, this after telling a friend she was having doubts about their marriage which was only eight days old at the time a friend of cody's says there were signs of trouble even before they got married. >> cody was putting everything in the relationship. he put 110% all the time. we were really not quite sure if she felt the same way. you don't do something like that. cody was saving every last penny for the wedding. here she will be takeing a vacation to california. >> it wasn't that bad. you guys all got along great. obviously we didn't talk much. you guys got along great. she is like i never want to do that again. jon:ed widow, graham, is charged with second-degree murder. we could get a decision on her application for release sometime today. jenna: what a story. well the big concern in syria is chemical weapons and whether or not a plan to gather them and
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destroy them is actually realistic. one of the big concerns. that is not the only fear. you heard from senator inhofe, there is a new report that the cia is indeed arming the rebels, the delivery of weapons going on for weeks and it is not quite clear where those weapons ultimately will actually end up. meantime a u.s. official says satellite imagery this week suggests that north korea restart ad research reactor capable of producing plutonium, not a good sign. the united states today talking about troubling developments with syria's neighbor, iran and its nuclear program. officials say iran is making progress constructing its own reactor while expanding its rue uranium enrichment capacity. what precedent are we setting with syria for how we confront those who have or want weapons of mass destruction? how difficult is it to destroy the chemical weapons already out there? joe cirincione, president of
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plowshares fund, author of a new book, nuclear nightmares, securing the world before it is too late. sounds appropriate. thank you. frank gaffney, former assistant secretary of defense for international security policy as well. great to have you both. let me begin with you, joe and with that question. is it realistic, the goal of rounding up all the chemical weapons and destroying them? >> this is something we know how to do although we haven't done it in the midst of a civil war. we have international inspection teams that worked on these kind of things for 20 years. they helped eliminated chemical weapons in 15 different countrieses. inspected 86 countries. we have experience eliminating chemical weapons in iraq and eliminating chemical weapons in libya. this is a very, very tough job and we can do it and it is far easier than the alternatives. u.s. presidents always wanted to get rid of assad's chemical weapons stockpile. it is a major threat that israel faces. president obama is closer to doing this than any previous
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president. jenna: frank, is this an opportunity we need to seize upon? >> we'll see. i think it is likely to prove impossible as a practical matter because as joe says, we've done this in other countries but never in the middle of a civil war. we have never dealt i think with a government like bashar assad who is absolutely unreliable and will almost certainly do everything he can to take advantage of the opportunities that have been presented so far to squirrel these weapons away. and more to the point, i think the idea that we're somehow going to help the russians do this when they are also so unreliable is, is such to make this really a nonstarter. as a practical matter it will buy time for bashar assad. it will further slow whatever lingering momentum there was for a military action. by the way, i'm not keen on a military action by us at this point but i also think it will demonstrate to a lot of people,
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including people who are hostile to this country and maybe some that haven't been, like egypt, that russia is a reliable ally and we're not. >> that is an interesting point, joe. russia is not exactly the role model of disarmament around the world. should we trust the russians when it comes to chemical weapons inside syria. >> it is not a question of trusting them, it a question what you can get, verifiably what we can get. this is who we negotiate. we deal with our adversaries and enemies. eisenhower negotiated with stalin. nixon made friends with mao. you deal with people you don't like, you are adversaries with and do it for the national security interests of the united states. clearly russia and assad are trying to buy time. they're trying to preserve the assad regime. that is what they hope they will get out of it. what we want to get out is chemical weapons, weapons that could kill millions of people in the region.
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if we can secure them in depots, have international inspectors there which we could do within months you effectively taken them away from assad. you prevented him from using them. will he try to cheat? of course he will. you try to catch him and reduce it. by getting most of the weapons you greatly reduce the risk. jenna: a lot of time and a lot of money. the big question about the precedent that it sets, frank. is this the type of pattern that we want to set for others like iran? >> well it is not just the precedent, it is practicality of it. joe has used the critical word, if. if you can get bashar assad to stockpile all of his weapons under international control, that would mean that presumably they would be less dangerous to a lot of people, assuming of course they're not overrun by the rebels, which, predominantly turned out to be muslim brotherhood and al qaeda operatives. that's a very big problem as well. coming in the middle of a war we're trying to help bashar assad's opponents win incredibly
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enough, including al qaeda. but here's the larger point and i think you've put your finger on it. do you honestly believe that the iranians or the north koreans, or anybody else who is currently trying to figure out how to preserve their regimes and expand their power is going to be, other than emboldened by what they see going on here? i'm afraid this is a nonstarter as a practical matter and it will in fact embolden our enemies. it will in fact undermine our friends and it will in fact undermine and diminish our country as well. jenna: we are dealing with a lot of hypothetical threatics. i want to bring back what a deal would look like. we have no deal. it is premise of one. joe, frank, i would love you both to come back. we can talk more about the practicality and maybe some of the philosophy behind some of the policy. thank you. >> anytime, jenna. thank you.
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jon: coming up as russia propose as diplomatic solution on syria the new debate over president obama's pivot on policy and in effect his handling of syria will have on the rest of his agenda. also a tourist trip through the jungle turns deadly as a group of bandits ambushes some hikers with machetes. how it all ended coming up. >> i saw them coming out of the bush. three guys with hoods on and, and a machetes, rifles and went right into us. we could hear the cries from the carriers, you know. slash, slash, slash.
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this syria situation. russia as you know, is now brokering a deal to take control of assad's chemical weapons. there is growing debate over how the administration has handled this crisis and what it all means for the president moving forward. angela mcglowan is a fox news political analyst and joins us now with her thoughts. this president often blames republicans in congress, for, you know, he has moving his agenda forward but in the syria situation, i mean he's got democrats lining up and saying don't do this. >> exactly. if you heard in his he said to you on the right who disagree he made his case an he said to my friends on the left, he made his case. jon, this is a move for the administration and obama, but its not a loss for democratic party. members of congress on the democratic side went against the president on they represented their constituency. a prime example, danny davis,
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from chicago, black caucus member. he went against the president because he listened to his constituents that is what is all about, jon. members congress come to washington, d.c. to represent the people they represent. jon: how does it look for the leader of russia to write an op-ed piece in one of the nation's leading newspapers to tell our president how to conduct his policy? >> it's a sad, sad day. kerry and pelosi they'd is great day that, but the putin will use this to embarass the president more. i'm embarrassed for our commander-in-chief. his foreign policy led from behind just like his domestic policy i don't think this situation, will hurt his agenda in congress. once this is said and done we go back to the regular business of the day that the president will push his agenda through and we will still have division in congress.
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jon: you don't think it will cause troubles for him? because a lot of people have said this stalemate in syria. the president proposes a strike. then says he has the authority. then says he will ask congress. now says he will not ask congress because the russians stepped in. doesn't that paralyze him? >> no, if you look at policies that failed in the past, jon, and we still elected him. "cash for clunkers"? what did that do? obamacare, people are laying people off and firing people for that. remember the shovel-ready programs, they weren't quite shovel-ready yet? the bottom line, the democratic party they have message lock and step. this will pass. if you poll many americans some are not as concerned about foreign policy as they are about domestic policy. i think this is a bruise for the president but he will be lock in step with his people after this is done. jon: we just had a shot of speaker of the house john boehner sitting next to the president at that meeting where,
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you know, the speaker of the house stepped out and said look, i support the president on syria. bashar assad should take a military strike as a result of this gassing. what does that do? >> well, the majority of his caucus, tea partyers, and others, they don't believe we have any national interest in syria. we should not go it alone. let's say hypothetically, jon, the resolution does pass congress, this will hurt obama because he wants to cut defense spending dealing with the sequester cuts. if the resolution passes, then he is going to have to give more money to defense. so what does it do that john boehner is standing next to the president, what does it do that john mack cain is agreeing with the president, it is still the caucus, still the republican caucus has to vote their conscience and they will not follow mccain and boehner. jon: well, lots of shoes left to drop. we'll see whether the russians can be trusted on all of this and what it does to the president's foreign policy. >> yeah.
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jon: angela, thank you. >> thank you. jenna: well, a dramatic rescue in colorado where deadly flash floods are washing cars right off the road. in fact we just got an alert about some more reports of folks injured. crews are rescuing one driver just in time. his car starts to go underway. we'll have the latest out of colorado coming up. plus back in new york city it is fashion week here as i'm sure jon has been hanging on every single show. jon: oh, look at that! jenna: next we'll take you behind the scenes for a look at the latest fashions and the business overall. jon: is there football on? jenna: like the hair, jon? ♪ you need a girls' weekend and you need it now. ladies, let's goo vegas. cute! waiter! girls' weekend here! priceline savings without the bidding.
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jon: a fox news alert and the president is meeting with his cabinet members this morning, a previously scheduled meeting. you can imagine topic number one is the syrian situation. the secretary of state john kerry not there because he is over in geneva meeting with the russians to try to put together some kind of an agreement to have bashar assad put his chemical weapons into the hand of an international coalition that would then disarm and destroy them. whether that works or not we don't know but the president has said he will forestall a military strike and let diplomacy have a chance to work. let's take a listen to what the president had to say in front of his cabinet meeting. >> obviously we're missing a few
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members of our cabinet here today. in particular john kerry is overseas meeting on a topic that we've been spending a lot of time on over the last several weeks, the situation in syria and how we can make sure that chemical weapons are not used against innocent people. i am hopeful that the discussions that secretary kerry has with foreign minister lavrov as well as some of the other players in this can yield a concrete result and i know that he is going to be working very hard over the next several days to see what possibilities are there. jon: well secretary kerry had suggested almost as an aside that assad giving up chemical weapons to another force would be a way to avoid armed conflict but then secretary kerry said that wouldn't happen. now it appears that assad has agreed to do just that.
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we'll continue to monitor that situation and see what happens. in the meantime there is new violence in syria as an international effort to secure the chemical weapons gets underway in geneva. a new report says the cia has been delivering machine guns and other small arms to syrian rebels for several weeks. in colorado an amazing rescue caught on tape. heavy rains and flash floods have killed three people there we saw this man pulled to safety from his up side down car as water from the flooded creek poured inside. and police in massachusetts searching for a man believed to be linked to the disappearance of a 17-year-old. they say britney thompson was last seen leaving a library with the man on monday. they believe she met him online. jenna: today's weekly jobs report raising some questions. the labor department releaseing a very positive number for new unemployment application. this is number of americans that
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filed for unemployment in a week. 292,000 was the number this week. that's lowest number we've seen in seven years. but the labor department says two states upgraded their computer systems and didn't fully process all the applications. it is likely we'll get revised figures likely higher next week. right now in new york city, new york fashion week is wrapping up. it's a week-long marathon of designers and runway shows and russian media and international celebrities an attention that comes with it. but it is not just about fashion. it is about money and the bottom line what is happening right now in american culture. we took a look. ♪ it is high glam and serious hair at mercedes-benz fashion week in new york city. this is the 2014 spring line for one of the top designers for icons and celebrities. she says this season feels lighter than the doldrums of the recession. >> we are here on earth only for like a limited time and we
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should celebrate and have fun and enjoy our lives. jenna: fashion isn't just fun, it is big business for the big apple. fashion week brings more than a half a billion dollars in direct visitor spending according to the new york city economic development corporation. that is would worth more than 850 million bucks in economic impact every year in new york city alone. ♪ what happens on a new york city runway like this will affect retail from coast to case coast in fact one out of our fobs in our country is supported by the retail industry. whether you're into it or not, fashion matters. the retail industry contributes approximately $2.5 trillion to our economy every year. what is the key to success in such a competitive space? >> it isn't just about having a fashion show or having dresses on the runway. it is also having the right dresses for the person, let's face it, all women at any age want to feel and look younger.
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jenna: among the other designers showing this week, tommy hilfiger, tahari, hoffman and max azira to name a few. top colors seen so far, rose, bronze and gold. some hot trends are revealed with waistlines and full skirts. if you're not into what you're seeing on the screen, here is a sage advice for every season. what is the one item that every woman should have in her wardrobe? >> it is this. isn't it? jenna: you got that, jon? jon: i got that. jenna: taking notes on that? i want to be sure. jon: what is the one item every man should? you didn't give us that information. jenna: i was not fair and balanced in this question. i know our viewers may not think of you as someone into fashion but i will share with you our viewers secrettings special story this morning. he came into the studio. he was wear i was wearing red and he has a pink tie.
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he doesn't like that. jon: doesn't work. jenna: i'm saying jon scott, fashion icon. jon: people might think we coordinate our wardrobes and we don't. maybe we should sometimes. jenna: now i know, if you ever see this again, just know jon scott a little unsettled. >> easier for me to change my tie than you to change your dress. jenna: that's true. i will keep that in mind. jon: persistence can pay off. our next guest started out looking for buried treasure. but what he found was simply amazing, so amazing his family and friend built a museum to show it all off. and now, on what started as a whim, he has nearly 20 people on the payroll. david holly is a co-owner of the arabia steamboat museum in kansas city, missouri. tell us about the arabia, a steamship that sank? >> good morning, jon. good morning, jenna. jon: good morning. >> yes the arabia, built in
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1853. it traveled on the missouri river and brought supplies and passengers to towns out west. on trip in september 1156, just beyond kansas city, loaded with 200 tons of freight the boat suddenly hit a tree, sunk in the water. they didn't see it. it pierced through the bottom of the boat, filling it with water and it sank within minutes. the 150 passengers and crew were saved but they couldn't get to the boat in time. the river was washing under it too quickly. buried it with sand and mud, within days it was gone. 132 years, from the time that it sank until it, we discovered it and began to dig it. jon: so most most people would expect the thing sinks in a river you will find it in the river. you found it in a cornfield. how did that happen? >> the river shifted its course. the missouri was notorious for shifting its course. the steamboat pilots on the
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river said having maps of the river was pointless, by the time they traveled up and came back a few days later the river was different n this case the river moved east and north, half a mile. jon: wow. >> it left the boat bury ad half a mile on the kansas side of the river from where the river had once been and 45 feet underground. jon: you have found all of these relics ofearly american west, really everything that the frontiers men of that day needed to stay alive. you wanted to put them in a museum but there wasn't a museum available so you built your own? >> well, sort of. when the museum, when the dig was over and turned out it was quite expensive, okay? we're doing this with our own money. there is no government money. it was just us and the bank. cost a million dollars to dig that boat. now we have this fabulous collection. we didn't want to split it up and sell it. we chose to find a great big bidding, the building that we're in.
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it had once been a vegetable wholesale warehouse that we leased, took it over, fixed it up, three years later we were open for business. we are still, however, cleaning artifacts. 200 tons of artifacts will take at least 30 years to clean. so we're still working on that. jon: it's a great story. without government money, you built your own museum. folks can visit you at the arabia steamboat museum, right? >> kansas city, missouri. jon: looking forward to it, thanks very much for showing us your story. >> you bet. thanks for asking. jenna: very cool. jon: love that stuff. jenna: very interesting. jon: yeah, everything from the old west. >> see those guns of the we showed pictures of the old guns dug up. i wonder what else they are going to find? a bind sized pilot, five-year-old behind the controls of a small plane. in fact that one on your screen. the debate he has ignited coming up. we'll talk with congressman phil gingrey of georgia about the push to end the special
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jon: some new info now on obamacare. as the president's controversial proposal looked like it might become law republicans added language to force members congress and their staffers to live under the same obamacare rules they were foisting on the american people such as the state health exchanges that roll out in a few weeks. so if you as a private citizen have to obtain insurance through one of these exchanges your employer is not allowed to subsidize or pay for that. recently our elected representatives took a look what they had done, making themselves live by the same rules as the commoner and they didn't like it. "weekly standard" reports, quote, members of congress and staff were looking anywhere from 5,000 to $11,000 net pay cut if they had to step in to pay for
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their own family's insurance. many complained privately to president obama about this onerous new requirement. so guess what happened? a federal agency, the office of personnel management, stepped in, waved its magic wand and ruled that the federal government will pay premiums for members of congress and their staff. our next guest says that is unfair and he's a congressman. phil gingrey, a georgia republican, a medical doctor and co-chair of the gop doctors caucus. these health exchanges are set up for people who don't have insurance through their employer, right? >> that's right. exactly, jon. jon: and, you know, so people who, you know, like here at fox, i have insurance through the fox health care plan. if i didn't, i could go to one of these exchanges but my employer is not supposed to pay for that. >> well, that's right. and you would not be eligible for a subsidy unless your income
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was somewhere between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty level. otherwise you pay the full freight. and, what happened here of course is, i don't think it was ever intended to put members of congress and their staff in the exchanges but that's what the law says and that's what it does and while we were on the so-called, august recess break, they opm, office of personal management, decides, okay, we'll still give you members of congress an your staff this same subsidy, this 75%, 25% share if you will. yes, you're right, 5,000 to 7 or $8,000 benefit and, we'll let you continue to keep that even though you don't meet those income requirements, you make too much money. so my bill says no special treatment for members of congress act and make them pay the full freight. that is what the american people are doing and that is what members ever congress should do.
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jon: members of like nancy pelosi went straight to the president, ah, this will be terrible. we'll lose staffers if we have to pay for our own health insurance. >> that's exactly right. the leadership, now i'm not going to characterize which leadership, but there is no question that the leadership went to the president and then, in turn, the administration went to opm, the office of personal management and said what can we do about this short of changing the law? and somehow by smoke and mirrors they come up with this special waiver. it just shows you what a bad bill this is. i mean waiver after waiver after waiver. i just came off the house floor where we just passed bill in the house that says, you must verify if you're eligible for a subsidy. because what they also did, they, in granting that waiver for the employer, not to have to abide by obamacare for another year, that people could go into the exchange and just simply
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self-attest to the fact, well, i don't make, i'm at 150% of the federal poverty level. therefore i'm eligible for this subsidy with no verification. this bill that we just passed on the house floor would eliminate that. would make them verify. jon: so there's one set of rules for members of congress and another set of rules for the common folks? >> that's right and we, the republicans in the house of representatives are going to stop that and challenge harry reid not to file 13 this bill. jon: all right. phil gingrey, republican from georgia, member of congress. we'll see where this goes. keep us updated. thank you. >> we'll do. thanks a lot. jenna: some good news in the fox news alert about a missing girl. some good news meaning that often times these stories do not end well but we got word this massachusetts girl on your screen, britney thompson, who has been missing since monday has now been found in rhode island. apparently law enforcement is saying not much about the man
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jenna: well the hearings have come and gone and the inspector general released his report but the scandal surrounding "fast & furious" is far from over and a contempt hearing or case against attorney general eric holder is still very much in the works. william la jeunesse has an update where things stand today. so let's start with eric holder, william, what about the lawsuit against him? >> reporter: well, you know, remember, jenna this is first time and only time president obama used executive privilege and the first time the house held an attorney general in contempt, claiming in this case that eric holder and the justice
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department withheld documents related to its role in the operation that put some 2,000 guns in the hands of criminals. now the house oversight committee filed a civil late asking a federal judge to force the administration to hand over documents it believes shows cover-up after the president claimed executive privilege. this came as more and more "fast & furious" weapons showed up in crime scenes in mexico that the justice department failed to report despite promises to inform congress. >> people continue to die. even the administration admitted sadly people will con to die by these 2,000 weapons. >> reporter: now in this fight over executive privilege we expect a ruling in the next three weeks. many believe this could actually go over the next congress, potentially even after president obama is out of office. jenna: meantime, brian terry, the murdered agent, his family is still pursuing their lawsuit. what's the status on that? >> reporter: well, jenna, the
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brian terry, his family, filed a 25 million-dollar wrongful death lawsuit after their son was murdered in 2010 with "fast & furious" weapons that were found at the crime scene. the family sued senior atf officials and gun store owner, lone wolf for negligence claiming both knew or should have known that those weapons would kill. well the agents claimed immunity while the gun store owner sided with the terrys saying andre howard was also misled by the government which falsely told him it was tracking the guns. >> mr. howard was asked to be essentially an age enof the atf and the doj with respect to these very suspicious, highly questionable, now proven to be illegal sales of weapons that happened over a period of time. >> reporter: jenna, that cases also in federal court. we expect a ruling soon if it will go to trial. back to you. jenna: we'll continue to watch it. william, thank you. jon: all right. so the big story of the day,
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jenna: a fox news alert as we reach noon here on the east coast. deadly and very dangerous situation right now in colorado. we have this daring rescue caught on tape for you as first-responders cram belled to save a man from his overturned car in a flooded creek. this is happening in boulder, colorado. others not as lucky. three people are dead today as torrential rains have overtaken roads and collapsed multiple homes. the severe flooding is now forcing widespread evacuations in boulder county. alicia acuna is live from boulder, colorado, with more for us now. alicia? >> reporter: hi, jenna. take a look at boulder creek. this runs right through town. if you look at this sign i want to show you something.
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you see the sign and the big tree behind it? that is the bank of the creek. all of this is flooded. you can see how quickly it is moving. this is the same water that we're seeing that is eroding roads all throughout this entire area. i want to go back to the video of that rescue you were just showing because it was three vehicles that were in a ditch area around the roads were eroded according to rescuers who were on scene. there was one person trapped in each vehicle. they were able to get them out. here is more detail on what exactly happened. take a listen. >> just using, you know, the rescue techniques that our firefighters are trained to do, we were able to use ropes to stablize the vehicles first. then we had the rescue boats and we were able to break in and pull them out of there. >> reporter: now take a look at this map we have made up here. you see lion's, colorado, that's a town of 2,000 people. right now the town of lions is isolated according to emergency
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management officials. it is priority number one. they can't get there by air or road. the roads are washed out. they lost the sewage plant. they have no freshwater. the red cross can't get there but people are in need of assistance. at this point they need the rain to stop in order to get to the town of lyons. boulder, colorado, here has had structures go down. they have cars that have been flooded out an people have been evacuated including the university of colorado at boulder. the campus is shut down for the next two days. all city and county buildings are shut down as well. this entire area, they're warning people to stay inside. of course, jenna, as we know, there are not a people out here not listening. we were getting ready for the live shot and folks were running through this water on their bicycles, always an example what not to do in these situations. you can always find them. jenna: alicia, is the rain supposed to stop over the next day or several hours? >> reporter: it is not expected to stop for a while. from what we're hearing, these
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flash flood warnings could go into the evening into tomorrow. it has been raining off and on all week. it did rain all night. it has been pretty heavy. jenna: we'll continue to see if the folks in lyons get the help they need. alicia, thank you very much. jon: brand new stories and breaking news this hour. russia's president lectures the u.s. on foreign policy in a scathing op-ed about the crisis in syria. white house reaction plus in depth analysis ahead. new trouble for obamacare and it is not just coming from republicans but from one of the president's biggest backers. plus a new study on baby food, the benefits, the concerns and what's really best for your little one. jon: brand new developments on the crisis in syria as we await a key meeting on the russian proposal in which assad would transfer his chemical weapons to international control as the syrian dictator explains why he
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agreed to the plan and russia's president slams the united states. i'm jon scott. >> hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. welcome to the second hour of "happening now." certainly a lot of players in the game, right, jon? jon: everybody seems to have their fingers in this mess. jenna: we'll watch the play-by-play as it happens. mean type the president of syria, president assad, making it very clear today claiming that the united states and our threats did not influence his decision to surrender chemical weapons. in the meantime a new report has the cia arming the syrian rebels, delivering light machine guns and other weapons for several weeks now. all this amid some key diplomatic action in again navy have. as we await the meeting between secretary of state john kerry and his russian counterpart to hammer out any details to for a plan to secure syria's chemical weapons. the russian president adding his own voice or rather some of his own writing to this whole conversation. "the new york times" publishing a scathing editorial from him.
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he warns that the united states strike on syria would unleash a new wave of terrorism. he took a few other shots as well. we have live team fox coverage. greg palkot is live in beirut. we start with our chief white house correspondent ed henry with more. ed? >> reporter: good to see you. the white house says they have high hopes that secretary kerry may be able to get a deal with his russian counterpart to avert military action here and get assad to turn over his chemical weapons. questions are being raised whether that is realistic especially in the wake of kerry arrive in geneva and "the new york times" op-ed travels around the world throughout the internet. don't have to be in new york city. president putin in this op-ed it was not assad who was responsible for chemical weapons attack on august 21st. it was in fact syrian rebels who were hyped that. he goes on to attack president obama, sticking a finger in his eye saying quote, i carefully studied the address to the
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nation on tuesday and i would rather disagree with the case he made on american exceptionalism. stating united states policy, is quote what makes america different, it what makes us exceptional. putin going on to say it is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. now you can imagine this is infuriating lawmakers in both parties. reaction coming in from capitol hill. speaker boehner saying a few moments ago he was insulted by these words from the russian president. democratic senator bob menendez, chairman of the senate foreign relations committee going further when he read this, he quote, wanted to vomit. jenna? jenna: how descriptive. thank you very much for that. what about the white house reaction? did the white house get a heads up from "the new york times"? because sometimes they might in these type of situations that this was actually going to be published? >> this was certainly going around last night t was released by the ketchum, the public affairs company of the certainly people in the media knew about it. people in the white house knew
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bit, reading it last night, not waiting to tomorrow's paper. the president start ad cabinet meeting going on right now here in the white house and ignored shouted questions about putin. they have had frosty meetings before. a little bit warmer last week in russia. th smile and handshake of the that is better than some other meetings we've seen in recent months and years. while the president ignored questions shouted by reporters about the op-ed from putin. he tried to focus on the positive and what hopes to get out of secretary kerry's meetings. take a listen. >> i am hopeful the discussions that secretary kerry has with with foreign minister lavrov as well as some other players in this can yield a concrete result. i know he will warning very hard over the next several days to see what possibilities are there. >> reporter: important to see the tone here because today the president expressing what has to be called cautious optimism.
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he is not going head over heels on the idea that kerry will come up with some major deal but we're hopeful something will happen here. think back to monday, susan rice, the national security visor, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and gave a big speech here in washington saying it is completely unrealistic for russia to help us in any negotiations. they have done a complete shift. the president didn't have the votes on capitol hill to get authorization to the use of force. they're trying to latch on to the potential that kerry can get a deal in geneva, even though last couple days, various white house officials were saying it is unreal listic, jenna. jenna: it is an interesting week and not over yet. we'll watch it, ed. thank you. jon: now to the big news on the domestic front and new concerns about obamacare. republicans seem to be divided over the strategy to oppose any spending bill that contains funding for the health care law. this as the possible government shutdown looms at the end of the month. this cops as mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate, tries to turn a debate
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over an energy bill into a battle over obamacare. he wants to add an amendment that would delay the individual mandate in obamacare by a year. plus there's big trouble coming from one of the president's major boosters with the country's largest labor federation approving a strongly worded resolution saying obamacare would actually drive up costs for union members. joining us now, a.b. stoddard, association editor and columnist for "the hill." if the presidential strategy here is divide and conquer he seems to be succeeding because republicans are very divided what to do about obamacare, ab. >> that's right. i think the president knows that the longer you see conservatives pushing to defund obamacare at risk of shutting down the government, the more the conversation stays on the fact that republicans are obstructionists and they want to shut the government down. what republican who is are opposed to that strategy being pushed by senators mike lee, ted
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cruz and marco rubio is, is, you know, they're thinking is obamacare is so unpopular, it is such a political liability for democrats we just want to go into the campaign next year talking about the troubled economic recovery, how poorly obamacare is being implemented, whether or not prices are up, et cetera. they just do not want a discussion about the fact that republicans shut the government down. so the push and pull between them acknowledges that obamacare is unpopular, so you see someone like senator mcconnell trying to delay the mandate but he is not pushing to defund obamacare at the risk of shutting the government down. jon: we had senator cruz on here a week or 10 days ago. he said look, i'm not about shutting down the government. i'm in favor of, you know, funding the government, just not obamacare. but, there aren't many, senators, there are about 14 i guess republicans who agree with this argument. is he going, is he going to get
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anywhere with it? >> well it is not likely with those numbers that he prevails. but pressure he and others are putting on leadership is enormous. you see the house leaders trying to come up with a proposal that would, helps the senate take a separate vote on defunding but ultimately kept the government funded and pass the cr, excuse me, a continued resolution for this fiscal year on the president. they don't want to be responsible for shutting it down. not over one agrees that obamacare is unpopular. this idea that you would risk shutting down all government operations, a, is not constructive, b, will cause a political backlash to the party and c, they say is impossible. many of the fund in the law are already mandated for essential employees in these kinds of accounts and the money will not come back. jon: the popular support for it is as you say, is dropping. 51% liked obamacare in january according to one poll. that number is down 39% now. republicans are appearing to
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piggyback on public opinion. we'll have you back another time to talk more about it. >> thank you. jenna: as we understand it, at the current moment, and it may change, at the current moment though it appears, the president's call for military strikes on syria remains if diplomatic efforts fail to remove president assad's stockpile of chemical weapons. why some top military planners say the president's plans hardly goes far enough. you might be surprised to hear from our guest coming up. the rich may be getting much richer today despite billions of government stimulus dollars pumped into the economy. what is the explanation for this? we have the answers coming up. [ female announcer ] it balances you...
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in the five years since the collapse of lehman brothers triggered a market meltdown, two top economists report 10% of the american earners took home more than half of the country's total income last year, the highest level recorded since the government started tracking these figures a century ago. the top 1% took more than 20% of the income earned by americans, the biggest share since 192, the year before the great stock market collapse. mike santoli, senior columnist at yahoo! finance. it gets a little dicey when we talk about percentages. we'll quiz view arrest little later. hope you got it. what does it tell about the economy where it stand right now? >> couple things. this trend shows you it doesn't back just back five years. it goes to the '80s. financial economy grew faster than the real economy. that is the case since the crisis. financial markets have come back more powerful actually than the main street economy. central banks around the world
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keeping interest rates low. stock market new high. dividends up high. that is what wealthy people tend to own. that is, their share of corporate profits is what makes them much wealthier. jenna: you interesting that you mention corporate profits you read the headline, rich are taking it from us. they're getting rich because i'm not getting richer because that is my part of the pie. that doesn't seem to be the best description. >> that is not exactly a zero-sum game like that. what we show you the job creation we have gotten is in entry level, service jobs. it is not higher paying jobs that will left the median income of the country very strongly. that was the case in early '90s recover for a while until the recovery really took hold and exploded into the bubble of the '90s. jenna: we mention the pattern, same sort of pattern we saw before the great stock market collapse in the late 1920's. >> yeah. jenna: are we headed toward that? is this a sign of bad things to come? >> i don't i think this is tells
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you that. i don't think the system is quite as unstable as the late 1920s. it shows you we're at a loss raising average incomes. educated folks are doing whole lot better than people without college education. unemployment is after of what college educated people than others. those mo have premium education and play on global corporate economy are here to stay at the moment. jenna: interesting point to raise. we're at five-year anniversary, almost tough to believe that was five years ago. massive banks collapsed, merge, all the upheaval in the financial industry. where are we now? are we in a safer spot in the economy than where we were back then? >> i mean yes. the short answer is yes because those probation do have more capital. they are taking less risk. there is not a housing bubble about to fall apart the way it was back then. but we haven't solved any problems, right, in a long-term structural way necessarily. we have problems with banks too
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big to fail. they are bigger than they were back then because of all the mergers. we still have after the fact regulations haven't yet taken hold. we don't really know what we want to be regulating away. jenna: it is interesting to take the two stories together. if the rich are getting richer and banks are getting bigger what will that mean 10 or 20 years from now? >> we simply don't know. the part of it is very mature economy. we're not a manufacturing economy anymore. we're not fundamentally anymore. we're a paper shuffling economy in large respect. also we're aging. we have to get used to somewhat slower economic growth rates. jenna: paper shuffling and aging. >> sorry to cheer you up. jenna: that is optimistic. quite a description. if it is fitting it is fitting. the effects are the facts, mike. nice to have you. >> thanks very much. jenna: jon, paper shuffling, aging? jon: i will do a little paper shuffling here. reaction is pouring in after russia's president writes a scathing op-ed and blasts the
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jenna: some new reaction right now to russian president vladmir putin's scathing op-ed in "the new york times" where he blasts the united states over the crisis in syria and slams american involvement in conflicts around the world. while mr. putin goes on to say his relationship with our president is improving and he is starting to trust him more he does take a shot at our commander-in-chief and the notion of american exceptionalism. this is the final paragraph in the op-ed if you missed, saying quote, it is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see
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themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. there are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic tradition and those still finding their way to democracy. their policies different. when we ask for the lord's blessings we must not forget god created us equal. that is from the russian president. the lecture is not going over well with some lawmakers here at home as you can imagine. senator bob menendez, chairman of the foreign relations committee saying quote, after reading this, i almost wanted to vomit. i worry when someone who came up through the kgb tells us what is in our national interest and what is not. it raises the question how serious the russian proposal is. so a lot of emotions surrounding all this fiona hill is joining us, senior fellow in the foreign policy program in the brac kings institution. coauthor of, "mr. putin, operative in the kremlin." she shared a few dinners with mr. putin. we would like to get your
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thoughts of the just in general, fiona, when you read this op-ed, what do you think? >> well, i was quite amused in some respects because putin has really done it again. the thing he always wants to do is turn everybody's else word back against them. it is interesting he picked this forum of "the new york times." it has been a long time since he had an op-ed "new york times." it was going back to 1999 when he tried to get u.s. public attention on chechnya. he is 14 years trying to get our attention on another civil war, not in russia but somewhere else. laying out the entire case why the u.s. policy has been misguided re-establishing his position he had all along no one should intervene in civil wars. last time he was making sure we were not going to intervene in his civil war back home in russia. as you point out the very end paragraph really is the kicker.
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a lot of points he laid out were fairly measured and fair enough. there was stressing the importance of having the resolution at the united nations and doing this in an international framework and avoiding unilateral action, all things russia and many other countries called for right from the very beginning but mr. putin has led his entire presidency in russia on the basis of russia being an exceptional unique civilization. so he is denying the united states right to call itself exceptional in some ways. at the same time that he himself always is stressing the reason that russia stand alone because it is unique. jenna: do you think an american president can make a similar argument right now in a russian newspaper? would that even be allowed to be published? >> well i can imagine that the russians wouldn't deny publication but the question is where would it be published? the elites in russia who pay attention to these kind of things and have some kind of influence on foreign policy is
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really very small. putin really is playing here for a very large group of people in new york and in washington across the country who are very much engaged in foreign affairs. he is reaching out to the members of congress. i don't think that obama would be able to have the same kind of reach in russia because the, the arena there is much more constrained. jenna: that is interesting to note that as we continue to talk about this because it is certainly did get our attention. in the same newspaper a day earlier in "the new york times," maureen dowd wrote this column about who do we trust? that's the question that she was raising. and she said, if it were a movie, we'd know it was a trick. and she is talking about russia getting involved in trying to solve this diplomatically. if it were a movie. we would know it was a trick. we can't trust putin. botox has given the kgb officer more of a poker face. that is one take on it, fiona. as far as diplomacy foes is this
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completely hopeless situation when it comes to russia? if it was a movie we were watching we would know we shouldn't fall for it? or is it an opportunity, less than ideal but maybe an opportunity to find some sort of a solution in syria and avoid war ultimately? >> well, i mean the problem is that we haven't avoided war in syria. we're in the middle of a massive civil war spilling over everywhere else. just like in the balkans back in the 1990s there is really no good end game here. we may end up just where we were there, presiding over a former state that had reverberations across its region. there's no really good endgame in syria that we can look to now and this will be with us for a long time in the future. jenna: but do you think, is it bad, should we not even involve, should we not even go for it? kerry is meeting with his counterpart right now, his
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russian counterpart. is it worth it to try this? is there an opportunity or is it futile? >> i don't think it's entirely futile. the thing is there could be some opportunity and that's the beauty of the game putin has played. he knows that everybody is looking for some kind of negotiated solution no matter how painful and messy it may be to avoid some kind of military action that nobody knows where it is going to end up with because the problem of conducting a military strike without a clear plan and clear end fame in sight is one we've seen in many other settings. putin knows this which is why he is playing out this game diplomatically and why he wrote what he did in the "new york times." he is offering the best solution we have on the table now in the absence of something else. i think what we have to do here is go in there, with eyes wide open what this could be and try to see if we turn this in some positive way. and that's again, part of the game that putin is playing. he knows we have to do this. we can not stand by and watch
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this level of depravity and suffering that we see in syria. the international community overall has to act. the question is, what action do we take and what end. jenna: who is the leader in that action. >> exactly. jenna: and if that matters. great to see you as always. thank you so much for the time today. >> thanks, jenna. thank you. jon: so we have been hearing a lot about the syrian chemical weapons attack at the center of a possible u.s. intervention there. now the u.n. is looking into other horrific war crimes. new reports of massacres in that country. we're live near the syrian border. a teenage boy is under arrest accused of threatening to shoot up his middle school. the latest on the young suspect coming up in a live report. [ male announcer ] the biggest news in breakfast is actually tiny.
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then he went on the school's web site and threatened to harm one of his teachers and to blow up the school. police and school officials took it seriously, closed all five schools on the campus and a private school nearby. the fbi got involved, quickly traced the e-mails and arrested the boy yesterday afternoon. >> it's just sad that he's obviously in some sort of a situation where he felt that desperate or that angry that that's got to happen, and he feels that's the right step to take. >> amazed, pretty serious. glad the police acted as fast as they did to apprehend the person involved. >> reporter: the eighth grader was released to his parents, and he'll be charged as a juvenile with felony harassment, jon. jon: so are all the schools open now today? >> reporter: yeah, the schools are reopened today. this was a big deal affecting nearly 4,000 students. police still don't have a motive, but they say it was definitely not a joke. >> i'm sure based on the conversation my detective had with the parents that he understands the gravity now.
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>> reporter: earlier this year an 18-year-old in that same school district was also arrested for making a threat against the school, but in this case, boy, jon, 13 years old. eighth grade. jon: sad story. dan springer, thank you. jenna: well, some new developments right now on the crisis in syria with president assad telling russian state tv in a brand new interview today that his country will send documents needed to join the antichemical weapons convention to the u.n. in the next three days. this comes as the u.n. investigates two other massacres linked to assad's forces. greg talcott is streaming live from beirut about 30 miles from syria's border. greg? >> reporter: hi, jenna, that's right. not too far from where we are right now in damascus, a significant confirmation coming from the syrian leader. but as you might expect, some catches attached to that confirmation as well. bashar al assad going on to tell russian state television today that syria will be handing
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over to international control its chemical weapons stockpile. that's about a thousand tons, we are told, of sarin gas, vx and other nerve agents. really, it is the first time that the leader has publicly at least obliquely admitted that it has in its possession chemical weapons. this, of course, comes in the wake of last month's sarin gas attacks in damascus allegedly by forces of the assad regime, and that triggered the threat, as we all know, of a military strike by the united states. assad today in that television interview as well saying the decision was not the result of that threat, just trying to be nice to russia. at the same time, however, assad saying that he would not hand over those weapons unless that military threat is dropped. all of this will be taken up in geneva over the next couple of days, secretary of state kerry meeting with foreign minister lavrov trying to work out the details, maybe also to see how
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it could be pushed farther. analysts that we've been talking to today here, jenna, says it is significant not because of the admission of the chemical weapons, but also because for the first time assad is at least making a gesture towards cooperation with international bodies on a diplomatic track. take a listen to what we were told. >> the fact that assad is conceding something might give hope that there might be a way to negotiate out of the syrian crisis, not just the chem cam weapons issue -- chemical weapons issue. >> reporter: all of this is being watched carefully here in beirut by folks on the street. they're getting a lot of collateral damage from the syrian war. there is violence, terror attacks, and the country here is getting a lot of refugees. the government estimates as many as a million refugees coming across the border from syria in the past two-and-a-half years. but the people do tell us that for the moment at least they're breathing a little bit easier, that threat of a u.s. military
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strike is lessened, the possibility of negotiations might be there as well, but also they're wary. they've heard before. back to you. jenna: greg talcott live in beirut, lebanon, thank you. ♪ ♪ jon: well, small business helping small business. a connecticut mother who started her own company from home quickly realized she was running out of work space, and she figured she wasn't the only one. so her solution? the collaborative women's center. laura ingle is here now with a look inside the new economy. laura. >> reporter: hey, jon. you know, great minds think alike, and finding an affordable work space when you are a start-up is not only challenging, but sometimes impossible which is why this is so exciting for female entrepreneurs. now, the collaborative women's center in monroe, connectic, boasts 1,000 square feet of open media space and is expanding. tracy mate came up with the concept after her own company,
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31 gifts, became too big to manage from home, and she wanted to help other women get off the the house and get their -- out of the house and get their businesses moving. >> it's been referred to as a co-working space or a business incubator space, and it really just allows women who are working their business from home to come in and have a public presence or have a quiet area to work. >> reporter: and it's working. membership to the center starts at just $50 a month. renting a private work space costs about $200, and the women who are using the space say their businesses are thriving. one example we are for you, carissa black, a worming mother of two -- working mother of two, who has been making her own line of handbags and accessories at home. her side job started to cut into her family time, and being around other creative women has been a bonus. >> all the other people that represent space there too, it's like to have professionals that i can bounce ideas off of, what do you think about that as opposed to just having to google
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search. >> reporter: the director of connecticut's small business association tells fox this type of incubator is perfectly designed for women with minimal overhead expenses and saying it's a win/win for everyone. jon? jon: we wish them well. great story. laura, thank you. jenna: well, there are growing calls to take out the syrian president if the united states moves forward with the military strike. one of them coming from a medal of honor recipient who joins us next with why some feel a limited strike just won't be enough. also some deadly flooding sweeping parts of colorado. the governor declares a disaster as three people are killed across the state. we're watching this story, we'll bring you updates as we get them. ♪ for a strong bag that grips the can... get glad forceflex. small change, big difference. well, you've found delicious! ♪
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it really should do is just take out syrian president bashar al assad. the argument is that that's the only way to prevent future chemical weapons use by assad or anyone hoping to follow in his footsteps. one of the people making that argument, colonel leo thorson, a retired air force colonel, also one of america's living treasures as one of the 80 living medal of honor recipients. he wrote "surviving hell: a p.o.w.'s journey." colonel, you have argued that we shouldn't strike syria, right? >> that is my argument, but i go on to say that the other day kerry said that to rand paul, i guess. i'll guarantee you twice, i'll guarantee you that if we don't strike him, he will use gas again. and my thought, you know, i'm like o'reilly, i'm a simple man, i like simple solutions. if we're going to strike, there will be collateral damage no matter if we hit runway,
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buildings, whatever it is. the least collateral damage and the most effective to guarantee assad will never again use chemical weapons gas is to kill him, just assassinate him. there is precedent to do that to leaders, and alsoty what a phenomenal -- think what a phenomenal prevention that would be to future leaders who say, well, if i use natural gas against my own people, i'm signing my death warrant. i think that's the simplest and most effective. jon: so you say don't go after his chemical weapons depots, his republican guard, go after the man himself? >> absolutely. he's at the top, he's, you know, to me it's kind of like heading off the head of the snake. you cut off the tail, it doesn't do much good. and obama's been saying for two years we've got to replace him, wishy washy, back and forth, and kerry says he's as bad as hitler. nobody in world war ii would have hesitated to assassinate hitler. that's the way to the stop him,
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and other leaders likely won't. jon: but doesn't u.s. law prohibit the american government from assassinating a foreign head of state? >> jon, i think it's not u.s. law. i think it is a presidential problem proclamation. our good friend looked it up for me. i think it's 12333 is the number. it was signed under reagan, and it's been changed a few times since then, but there's also exceptions. we just went after gadhafi, we used royal air force resources and recon. we found him, we killed some of the people in a caravan. he got away, hid in a culvert, but then he was shot. obama brags so much about usama bin laden, shot him in the head and the heart. hussein, found him, and he was eventually hanged. there's a lot of -- also we assassinate with drones american citizens. there's many precedents that when you've got a man as bad as hitler, if kerry's to be believed, he should go. jon: well, i guess one of the arguments against taking out bashar al assad is who replaces him. what if some kind of al-qaeda
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group comes in afterwards, and then you've got a group like that with chemical weapons stores. >> jon, that's a legitimate caution, and i agree with that. but i do think no matter who comes in there, assad right now is averaging, what, 50-60,000 people a year of his own people he's killing, murder, rape? that's part of their policy. it's just horrific. and i think whoever comes in there, the average won't be 50,000 citizens a year killed. also it would create a vacuum especially if we could use maher is his name, but if there's a vacuum, maybe that'll give us an opportunity if obama will man up and use leadership to put, help, to help influence who goes in there next. i doubt it's going to be as bad, but that is a legitimate question, jon, so i question my judgment, but i believe on the side of eliminating him. jon: all right. retired colonel who spent be six years in a north vietnamese
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prison, thanks for your thoughts on that to do. jenna: nice to hear from him. jon: great guy. jenna: we're going to change things up a little bit coming up, and we're going to talk about health for your family. there's a new study on store-bought baby food and how good it is for your children. what every parent needs to know about the food you're feeding your children, coming up. hey linda! what are you guys doing? having some fiber! with new phillips' fiber good gummies. they're fruity delicious! just two gummies have 4 grams of fiber! to help support gularity! i want some... [ woman ] hop on over! [ marge ] fiber the fun way, from phillips'.
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jon: well, "happening now," a big study's getting a lot of reaction from new parents. it says that a lot of commercial baby food sold in stores might be half as nutritious as homemade food. the survey is significant when you consider that some two out of three families use these commercial products as their infant's first solid food. so let's get the information
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from a period -- pediatrician and author of "red light, green light, eat right." this study came out of the british medical association which suggested that people ought to home-make their own food as their baby is transitioning from, say, breast milk to, you know, more solid foods. >> exactly. and that's not really what the american academy of pediatrics recommends. jon: so we've got a disagreement right off the bat. >> yes. jon: with the british medical association. >> yes. what the american academy of pediatrics recommends is breast-feeding exclusively for the first six months and then adding solid foods in over the next six months while continuing to breast-feed. and we say that you can do either store-bought or homemade baby food depending on your needs. but you have to be careful, because there are a lot of risks with homemade baby food. so when you do make your own baby food, you need to be really careful. jon: well, a lot of people think, you know, well, what could be better for my baby that
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running to the store and grabbing some organic spinach. >> right. and it's interesting you mentioned spinach because it contains nitrates. carrots and squash and green beans and spinach and beets, they have nitrates which can cause a life-threatening anemia in a baby. so you want to be care. when it's a store-bought version, the companies test for the nitrates so you know it's safe. we say you don't want to make homemade baby foods out of any of those particular individual that tables. jon: and there are also pack tier y'all -- bacterial concerns. >> correct. you need to be careful when you're using a spowng or a dish rag. we can tolerate bacteria as an adult, but a newborn cannot. you have to to keep them so clean, watch them very, very often. you want to make sure that everything is pristine in your kitchen. jon: best advice, talk to your pediatrician. >> yes. and wash everything in that
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we just got a new dog. >> i did? >> i adopted a full grown boxer. >> i wonder if your new one looked like this one. this is a new resident in the zoo. first joint panda cub topping a whopping nine pounds. i am sure it will get bigger. it is the first baby born to a giant pair of pandas, score one for panda, exhausted. score one for panda diplomacy.
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he had's big job and doing okay. >> lie there on the bed of bamboo. >> and how big do giant pandas get? >> i would guest 250 to 350 pounds. >> they are not bears. they are member of the raconfamily. >> good to know. appreciate. it >> take that st. and start your weekend early. >> all right. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you, everybody. america lives starts right now. >> on that note thank you guys, we have a fox news alert. and awaiting a white house reaction to a warning aimed to the american people and came from russian vladimar putin. welcome to america live. i am margaret cowan in for megyn kelliy. we are awaiting a white house press briefing. it is now delayed and the white
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house will face a litany of questions and in new york times written by vladimar putin. a plea for caution from russian and what putin has to say to americans about syria in it a military strike would unleash a new wave of terrorism, this comes the same day as secretary of state john kerry meets with the russian counterparts and discuss a possible diplomatic deal to confiscate syrian chemical weapons and the logistics of carrying out a task. that sit down will take place and a short time ago president obama spoke about secretary kerry's trip and express optimism. >> i am hopeful that the discussions that senator kerry has with foreign
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