john ham. >> oh, really. >> fusearch for him be careful. >> don't search for justin bieber and no problem if you goggle one of us. >> america lives begins right now. >> thank you very much. we start with a fox news alert. we have new details that are coming from the authorities within an hour on the search for answers on the deadly rampage in the navy yard that left 12 people dead. welcome to america live. i am martha mccow an in for megyn kelliy. we expect an update within the hour from the fbi. we learned the identities of the rest of the 12. shot to death inside of building number 197. youngest of those was 46 years old and the oldest was a 73-year-old. the suspect in the case was

aaron alexis who was cornered inside of that building. and after firing multiple rounds at officers, he, too, was taken down. the fbi took the lead in the investigation and we learned that in the new's conference. they are in the front of this and in the process of interviewing his family and acquaintances and everybody, trying to figure out the motive in this case. and they believe he acted alone and mentally unstable. his motive remains unclear. and outside of the crime scene, flags are flying at half staff today. the president signing a proclamation of having flags lowered and remain that way to honor the 12 innocent victims. one of the flyers in the bottom of the left hand part of the screen. and secretary of defense, and senior department officials laid a wreth in the navy memorial plaza and that was adjacent to

the lone sailor that represents all people serving now or yet to serve in the united states navy. reporting live from the washington navy yard, rick loventha l. >> there areh mu reports that t gunman carried three weapons including an a r 15. we are hearing from federal sources that there were no a r 14 recovered in the scene. he may have used a shotgun and pistol and the fbi said they will address it in one hour from now. and it is for essential personnel only. it was armed metro pollittan police officers and carrying the m- four and behind that is building one nen where the building took place yesterday. they may not be finished until

tomorrow documenting the scone. some of the shooting was captured in scanner traffic, listen. we have a report on the fourth floor, a male with a shotgun. multiple shots fired and multiple people down. we have active shotter on the fourth floor. it is several victims are down. >> we have an officer down on the third floor. >> the suspect drove a toyota prius. and used a valid id. that car searched by investigators and towed out of here this morning and they searched after the accident lexis' hotel room and martha, we expect more information from a now's kfrps one hour from now. >> wool take everybody live there, rick. thank you very much. emerging from the tragedy, incredible stories of bravery

and kindness. including omar grant a civilian employee who was nor the ca feteria and spotted a blind co-worker. he realized he was all alone and grabbed his arm and leading him to safety telling reporters he didn't want to love him behind. >> so at the white house, president obama is taking criticism for his response to the navy yard shooting. yesterday he spoke briefly about the attack that was unfolding a short distance from the white house, and then went a head with planned remarks on the u.s. economy and included partisan attacks on the gop. here is a little bit of. that >> the problem is, at the moment, republicans in congress don't seemed to be focused on the economy. and instead of making necessary changes with the scalpel, so far

at lost the republicans have left in place the so- called sequester cuts that costs jobs and harmed growth and hurting our military readiness. >> at the time the president was making those remarks. eight dc schools was on lock down and an active manhunt was under way. at that time, we all believed there could be two more armed suspects. and thousands of local resident were in a shelter and place while the president gave a speech. and the navy spokesman said this is not over. the navy yard remained on lock down and bodies had not been removed by the end of the day, the questions are asked if it was time to launch that speech that included partisan attacks. >> the president in that speech was back to hyper partisan mode

and slashing an attack and in extremely bad taste. he could have waited until tomorrow. it is not like it is a holy anniversary. >> the president tends to epigauge from partisan attacks from the white house podium more than anybody i can remember. usually it is vague. he's talking about the party and attacks the republican party with regularity. it is not particularly7sñ attractive. >> very strong words from the panel on special report. we'll have chris host of power play on fox nows.com. chris, in your column today, you didn't mince words either. what mania could have compelled the president to take partisan swipes and accuse the republicans of being unpo patriotic while the police were on a manhunt after a mass shooting in the naval yard. >> it is the need for the white white to stay in the news cycle

and continue an aggressive approach. we have heard this speech or version television about debt and deficit for three years. we are in the third year of hearing about it. and the urgency and the president and his time to put it out there is apparent when they are willing to do it even as the city where they live and work and make their lives, a military installation there, there is an a tact and people are wondering if it is terrorism or looking for answers. it showed a window in the psyche of the administration. >> you have to go inside of the room in your head. you know somebody had to say to the president, should we go a head with the speech or not and yet jay carney, said they never considered postponing the speech. and just to remind everybody, this is while the manhunt was going on and schools were locked

down. for all we anyhow there was two shooters. >> if they never considered it was malpractice by the president's time to say mr. president today is not the day. they pushed it later in hopes to get it off. and they moved the location and they did what they could to recognize the moment was not appropriate for partisan attacks and one supposes they took other stump speech lines out. but no one was there to say enough. at this moment, they had scheduled a celebration of latin music in the white house and all of this stuff, and the fact that no one said, put the brakes on. this is not the day to appeal to base coalition and looking for headlines, let's lay back. >> you know, we have a split screen here and it is a fair split screen and shows what was

going on as the president was speak being. people in panic mode and consoling each other while the president did the speech. from a purely political stand point, chris, in terms of. this how effective is it. the reason to give a speech to make a point and land your point and have people listen to you. and it is also a leadership moment for the president. he did it after aurora and new up to. he said business will go on as usual but not right now. >> the president will have to make a mends and the declaration that you saw will be the start and we'll hear from the president on this since it was a service location. but the other thing i will tell you is, their aggressive attack in every news cycle approach of the political operation, the obama political operation may have worked when it was newer

and the a- team in. this is the second term and you don't have the council that you once did and maybe the president got bad advice, i don't know. that was not where he wanted to be yesterday that's for sure. >> very interesting piece. and chris, people need to take a look at it. thank you, chris. >> and a reminder that the fbi news conference is now about 45 minutes away. when that happens, we'll take you there live this afternoon. did you so this? a stunning sight off of the coast of italy. 20 months on its side. the crippled and by, does it look crippeted. the costa concordia was pulled upride in an amazing piece of engineering that took months and months and we remember the screams to get back on the boat

after he bailed in a lifeboat and so many people lost their lives. here is more on this stunning, stunning feat. >> it really was amazing, martha, they thought it would take 12 hours and it took 19, but this was the biggest ever undertaking of parbuckling of the ship. it is two and half-times the size of titanic and a thousand feet long and 115,000 tons. they lopped up the chains under the carcus and pulley wet. and gravity did the rest and making the ship go up in the initial position. they were concerned about a couple of different things, listen. >> it was perfect operation i would say, and the iermental point of view, there are no

evidence so far of any impact to the voirment. >> the environmental impact was a big deal because the ship had polouted oil and water and foul. most of that was contained and why they couldn't cut it up and take it away. they will patch the garb and good it and tou it away and it will be take know apart. it is interested to note it is not only a wreck but the crime scene. the captain is on trial for manslaughter and for causing the shipwreck. he brought the ship to close to shore. he claimed there was no reef on the nautical charts on the poored of the ship. they are investigating two bodies that were never found. >> 32 people lost their lives on the ship. thank you, trace. >> five years after the financial crisis hit our economy

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>> okay, we are scombak you are looking at the site of the upcoming fbi news conference and we'll get new information on the motive. we'll take you there as it gets underway. in the meantime we are five year anniversary of the financial collapse in the united states. economist are taking stock of what happened, what has improved, what has not improved, while housing and hiring and the stock market have seen a lift in recent months, there are still just 13 states that have employment levels that are at or above the prerecession levels.

the labor force. this is a huge number to keep in mind. the participation rate and the number of people who are working and want to work, 63 percent. that is the lowest level in 35 years for those in the job market. this are 3 million more part- time workers now than there were five years ago, and the same percentage of adults were in the fork worse as in september 2008. unemployment would know over 11 percent. and there is a story that numbers simply don't tell and stewart varney is here. and host of varney and company. you, stewart, are very concerned about what it did to the american spirit and optimism that is so ingrained in america. >> i think we have lost our optimism and the feeling in america is very different than what it was in 1982 and to 2007.

period of time. a broken president of rising prosperity. and meaner recessions and a that was it. and unbridled growth. and everyone said tomorrow will be better than today. my children will be better off tomorrow than i am today. five years ago, that came to a screeching halt and the financial panic reversed that optimism in america. jobs went and housing went south and stock market turned south. we failed to grow and conon on contracted. >> it is not just optimism, they drive markets and so you have to have ta in place if you want to so the recovery. let's look at the number in the break.

this is median household income for the american family it is a shock think of 51,000 in 89 and versus today. there is a huge difference. we live with the way we feel about america every single day. it colors all of our transactions and investments and what we spend money o. i think that that is pessimism. and i think it could be reversed. it could be reversed if we go through a period of rapid economic growth. 4 or 5 or 6 percent growth. we are no where near. that >> or 1 or 2 percent at the best. >> two percent. that's what it has been 4 or 5 years now.

if we got back the growth, your attitude of spending money and jobs and housing and your whole psyche changes because you can look fut forward to a future that rising. >> i will play the devil advocate in the conversation. as i said to you. i often ask myself and others the rhetorical question. are we becoming europe? are we headed to a situation where we were a once great nation and that is very scary to i think all of us. >> martha, you are asking the right person. with an acent like this i am clearly european. >> it was a -- >> i lived in america the overriding characteristic of this country was optimism and rising prosperity. and europe was down in the dumps. we are now like europe. we are pessimist just like

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>> so days after the rains began we are tracking a dramatic story developing in colorado. you know, this story hasn't gotten the attention it deserves in the scope of everything that is going on. but hundreds of people are missing in colorado. hundreds of people. and this is sparking what is described the biggest rescue mission we have seen since hurricane katrina. and a liowa ciowa a is live on the grouped in boulder. ark alicia what can you tell us

today? >> we are in the boulder municipal airport. we are watching the black hawks take off and heading out in the northern part of the state to try to find people and rescue those who can't get out of their communities. i am stand nothing a sun shiny day and you can't let that fool you. severe flooding that hit colorado is in the northeastern part of the state and it is inundating towns like strerling and expected to get much worse. the community of jewelsburg is told to anticipate a surge this evening. evacuations are continuing. we will look at estees park. if we are able to get our crew in this area. this was cut off from all travel. andom nick and his crew made it up this recently and they were

able to talk to folks and ask them how and where they gr go from here? >> i have no idea. we watched the high collapse the rest of the way yesterday. and we have no idea. it is, i imagine it will take months if not years to get it all rebuilt. >> the colorado department of transportation said it will take months and homeowners longer to recover from the loss. 19,000 homes were damaged or destroyed in the flood so far. and as i mentioned, margaret a it is not over. anticipation is that there will be much more loss of life as the evening and tomorrow. ine though it is not raining here. all of that water is moving in the eastern part of the state. as far as here, the rescuers do bring people they have found back to the area.

depending on their condition, they are then is not to the boulder hospital or greeted here by family members. it is still a active rescue operation underway here. >> it is frightening. >> so many kids with back packs and taking out of their homes and not knowing when they will see them again. we'll be back to you little bit later. >> in just the last hour we had details on the reporting about the guns used by the navy yard shooter yesterday. we'll tell you all about that and attack you to the news conference. the details may have been wrong actually and we'll tell you what we learned at this point and what the investigation means at this point. and a group of maryland resident who are frustrated with the state's government and that is a liberal leadership are joining a recent moving trying to suck sowed from their own state. we'll talk to the organizer and

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shooting investigation as we are learning new information about the gunmen's mental health status and the weapons he used in the shooting. a lot of new stuff coming through right now. and kathryn harris joins us live from washington. hi, kathryn. one of the issues that the fbi will have on the briefing and federal law enfoens forcement said he had two weapons beg a shotgun last weekend. it was purchased in virginia. the 34-year-old was out of state and that meant in virginia, he could buy the shotgun without any checks being run. the issue is whether alexis fell in the category to bar him buying a weapon and the mental health issues in the va would not be a disqualifier and

neither the assessment be on his behalf. he had those weapons and investigators are trying to discern whether he picked up one extra weapon after taking on security in the navy base. his access and when he was using was raised in the morning new's conference. >> apparently he used a handgun of one of the law enforcement officials in the navy yard after he got there. and so that investigation is continuing to unfold to so what weapons he and how many and how he used them. >> an investigative source familiar with the case said that alexis was a ghost on social media. that is striking to investigators considering he had a job in iowa p. this was a linked in account deleted yesterday before his name became public and the source said this is a marker that he was a recluse and he did not offer motive or manifesto on

the web which we have seen in many other cases. typically what you see is a bubble in the messaging and first person references i know him from such and such and i was told in this case, there is no immediate associates referencing to this guy, another indicator he was very isolated when the shooting took place. >> thank you very much. >> despite the fact that washington d.c. is considered one of the most anti- gun cities in the country, yesterday's tragedy is sparking renewed calls for gun control. judge napolitano joins me now. and now it looks like it was a shotgun and not an a r 15 which we learned this morning. >> right. >> and a lot of people hopped on that that it is similar to the james holmes case where he used a gun like that and call to get serious about gun control in

this country. >> it is inconceivable that there are more gun control in washington d.c. and it still being lawful. if you are a cop or off duty cop or excop or law-abiding citizen, you can only possess it i your house. you can't carry it to a to b. >> no concealed carry at all. >> correct. we have that law that establishes an anti- gun mentality for people who live in washington d.c. ine those charged with protecting others and government property like naval officers. we have an executive order from president clinton in 1993 prohibits carrying weapons when on doubt on military post. they have absurd. we probably would not had a fort hood miscellaneous cure. and the naval yard if naval and

military officers were allowed to carry weapons that they are expert in using. i don't blame the government for failing to know the background of every employee and vendor it hires. we heard kathryn, he was a loner and a nut and left no foot print. it is impossible to predict violence. >> we anyhow a couple of things, judge. we have to have common sense in keeling with the issues. he was arrested twice and an incident where he shot his gun up through the ceiling in someone else's apartment. and shot out the tires and charges were dropped and he was not convicted and he didn't fall under that part of the ruling, we also know that he had sought medical taejz for ptsb. you know everybody at home will say you can't put a blanket over every person.

when you have a compliment of these things, there ought to be a measure when this person is scanned in, we need to do a body check and check their car. it is common sense. >> i agree with you. there is nothing wrong with that. the government creates an anti- gun mentality in the area around the naval yard and dc and in maryland and dc where these people live and an anti- gun mentality and someone wrong with having a gun in the naval universitied and lets a guy like this come in with a combun. not a hero with a sidearm. but the monster, the government's thinking is perverse. it doesn't respect the second amendment that it sworn up to uphold and doesn't care about their own employees. >> so many rules that common sense is missing. if you can evade the rule, then

you are like -- >> clinton's executive order and i am surprised that george bush did not change it and i am not surprized barak obama didn't. it was based on political correctness. we want it to appear like a work place and don't want guys walking around with guns. i was 19 years old in the vietnam era, we had sidearm. >> the guards had guns. >> we know one of them was shot according to the latest reports and his gun was taken away. >> same guards had guns in fort hood, that was not enough to save the slaughter there. this will happen until the government realize that safe and trained people will protect us better than political correctness.

>> always a pleasure to have you here. >> during the economic remarks we talked about yesterday, the president is saying no credible evidence that the health care over haul is a drag on the economy. karl rove will fact check the president's remarks against the recent reporting on that. and a group of maryland frustrated citizens are joining a movement to regions of states to succeed from their own state. we'll talk to the organizer and why the maryland model is getting a lot of national attention. ♪

>> we're back and the victims of the fort hood shooting massacre

is trying to get a hold of the 300,000 that majorna dal collected. they are told good luck. nearly all of that money went to charity. this as many of the survivors struggle to pay their own medical bills because of the shooting. after that massacre was classified a work place violence episode and not a terrorist attack they were not entitled to certain help they will have had had it been a terrorist attack. >> a succession movement is western maryland initiative. they are frustrated to the liberal government and listen to how the founder. >> they don't do what they say. why waste your time voting. >> they are not listening and

taking our needs in consideration and govern in accord how we wish to the governed and we are seeking an amicable divorce. >> western maryland feel underrepresented by the capitol. and here is the man driving that suck session movement scott, welcome. >> thank you, good afternoon, martha. >> on the face of it. people look at it and said we have elections and who ever gets the most votes wins that election and they are govern. that's what they are doing. >> in some way it could be correct but the primary issue is the fact that the state is gerrymandered. there are four jurisdiction that make up the state senate in maryland. and 25 of the 47 jurorist and state senators come from these

jurisdiction. and through the normal electoral process we can't change that. we feel we are not represented and our needs are not taken into account and believe it is irreconcilable. we are seeking a divorce. >> how likely are you to succeed. a lot of the states are watching your model. >> there are at east 4 or 6 going on now. but right now, we are in what we call phase one and we are trying to gauge and engage the popular support for the initiative. if we have the popular support from the people and business communities, we'll move the effort forward. in the end, the process to erect or form a new state is legal and constitutional. and it is an uphill battle no doubt but we need after the accident proval from the maryland state legislature and then we would go to the u.s.

congress and get their approval. >> and it is constitutional to make this attempt and to have a vote and if it passes you would be your own state? >> that is correct. article four and seconds three of the constitution lays out the process for which you need to erect the radio. it is done six or sen times in the history of the united states. massachusetts and vermont from new york and west kentucky and kentucky. and etset rachlt >> very interesting. what are the things that you really feel are injustice to the people who live in your part of the state. >> first, we don't feel we have proper representation and because of that gerrymandering. it is electoral process to change what is happening in ana potis. it is rigged and their referees.

there are taxes. there is dozens of tax increases and the crazy one that passed the last legislative was a rain tax. and so if a drop of rain hilts my grass. but one inch to the less they will tax me for. it and what is more unfair. they only decided to institute the tax against the ten largest jurisdiction and the other 14, we'll not bother taxes them and there is no equal protection of the laws either. and the straw that broke the back of the camel is senate bill 281 and the states restrictive gun control legislation. that is where a lot of people started to talk about we don't have representative government. we are tax and money is not to other parts of the states and we simply wish to establish a new political society and that's all

states are, political societies that comports with our views and how we wish to be governed. >> if you had a state, what would you name it? >> that is a good question. obvious one is western maryland and one is an tiddium anda augusta, that's what the area was surveyed and named in the 1700s. we would have a contest or manage and let people decide what the state name will be. >> you have to make a lot of now puzzles of maps of the united states. >> we didn't always have 50 states. remember that. >> this is true. >> scott, thank you very much. and very something and i will watch to see how you make out, thank you, sir. >> we are now just minutes away from the fbi news conference that is expected to be a major moment in terms of releasing new details in the navy yard

shooting. potentially, we'll hear about a motive that the man may he is had that card to get back in the building at all. back in a moment. the bullet did not penetrate the we are watching her to make sure that there is no bleeding in the area. from what i understand she was under her desk and she was trying to shield herself is my impression of what she was doing.

when the fbi news conference happens we will take you there. we are following this developing story out of atlanta tid. police have issued an amber alert. police say she was kidnapped by two armed men during a home invasion. police believe this is a random. they say at 2:00 in the morning, the suspects pried open the back door. the mom quickly tried to hide her two kids but the suspects found everybody. when moms said they didn't have any the dog was barking and the suspects gr s shot and killed t dog. she was wearing pajama bot toms

and a super hero shirt. the truth is they have been gone now for 312 or 12 and a half hours. they have set up car searches in the southern part of georgia but a nationwide amber alert has been issued. 4'9", weighs 90 pounds. last seen wearing star wars pajama bottoms and a super heros top. they have very few clues on this right now. if anybody knows or sees anything. all of the information on this on foxnews.com. still ahead ugly new record for gas prices and we are moments

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we start you off with this fox news alert. we are waiting for an fbi news conference that is going to get started any second now. a new hour starts now of "america live". we will take you to that live as soon as that gets underway. fox news has learned exclusively that he was punished by the navy during his time as a reservist,

in 2008 for disorderly behavior. jennifer griffen joins us live from the pentagon with these new details. also how he got an honorable discharge in the face of all of this. >> fox news has learned from multiple military sources that he was reduced in rank from an e 3 to an e 2 in 2008. it was at the time that he was arrested for 24 hours, placed in jail and he did not show up for work. he was punished by the navy at that time. he was working in the unit at the time of his arrest and subsequent unauthorized

absences. he had to forfeit half of his pay for two months. later that year. he appealed the decision and in december the navy granted his appeal and paid back the money that he lost. the violation was essentially expunthed from his record one official said. >> i knew there was some things that aaron was upset about with his veteran benefits. he wasn't getting paid on time or enough. but nothing of this magnitude. questions about whether he had worked in building 197. sources said that he had to shoot his way into the building. hewlett-packard released his statement today.

>> he was staying at a hotel not far from the navy yard. fbi investigators were there last thit and thnight and they looking into what he did in the final hours before making his way into the navy yard. he did not use a stolen id to get into the base. he used the cat access card to get into the base. but then he had to shoot his way in. >> good afternoon. >> and i think we are going to go now and listen into the news conference right now. >> we wanted to take a moment to

provide an update on the investigation. >> i'm joined today by u.s. attorney, chief chambers of the u.s. park police. carl basilco of atf. dc fire and ems. i would like to commend and thank the agencies that you see here today. we continue to work together and the partnerships and cooperation among us are vital to the progress of this investigation. as briefed last night. we believe at this time that the deceased shooter aaron alexis acted alone. as such, the investigation has moved into a phase of evidence recovery and information

gathering. we have confirmed 13 fatal itie to ininclude the shooters. our response teams remain at the navy yard and continue to process the scene. this is a time intensive process that inincludes bullet trajectory and crime scene mapping and with the assistance of our personnel we will remain there to carefully process each shooting site. in regards to the weapons used, there has been a lot of information circling in the media in the last day. we caution in obtaining information from sources and we ask that all questions be

directed to the fbi. at this time we believe that h n entered building 197 at the navy yard with a shotgun. we do not have information that he had an ar 15. we believe he may have gained access to a handgun once inside. he had legitimate access to the navy yard as result over his work as a constract and used a valid pass. we continue to conduct all necessary investigation to learn about the activities and contacts of mr. alexis. we continue to conduct interviews explode digital media and rundown every lead that we can to piece together the movements and determine the motive behind his attack.

we can say that we can determine that he arrived in the washington, d.c. area on or about august 25th and he has stayed at local hotels in the area since that time. he has stayed at a residence inn since september 7th. we ask anyone who has had contact with him to contact the fbi with that information. we have received hundreds of tips which we will continue to follow up. this activity is not only taking place here in washington, d.c. but in various cities across the country where he has spent time. we ask anyone who may have knowledge of mr. alexis to

report that to the fbi. no piece of information is too small. we continue to put other fbi assets to the investigation. our office is working with the department of defense to provide support to victims and next of kin. we have personnel assisting in the investigation as we try to determine the motivation behind the shootings. we continue to look into mr. alexis past including his medicine kal and criminal histories. because that part of the investigation is still on going. we will not comment further on that. i would like to thank our partner agencies and all those who participated in the response. i would like to thank all those who work at the navy yard during

a long and trying day. i want to extend my thanks to the public for their continued support. please call 1-800-225-5324, 1-800-call-fbi. thank you and i would like to now invite chief ranier to say a few words. >> i have little to add. i will try and answer the questions that i have been getting from most of the press. first and foremost our officer is doing well. he is in good spirits he is pretty uncomfortable. he has some pretty serious injuries. but we expect he will make a full recovery and he extended multiple times his thanks for the support from the public and also his gratitude for the other

law enforcement officers who responded who helped to get him out of the building and get him to safety after he was injured. again, that would not have happened in every case. but the working relationship with mpd and the partners here and the training that we do was critical yesterday. i'll say that we have gone and looks further and spent several hours this morning and as proud as i was yesterday of the working relationship the team work and the heroism of the police officers and the first responders i'm even more so today. i've seen things that we have trained for and planned for for years come into place flaw leslie. two minutes after the call was dispatched we had officers at the gates arriving on the scene. within 7 minutes had officers

entering the building to engage an active shooter and shots were actively being fired. we had officers who went into a building, witnessing multiple casualties and continued to p pursue a gunman who was going to kill as many people as possible. the officers who responded did a incredible job and there is no doubt in my mind that they saved numerous lives. for all of the officers, the po park police, all of our federal teams, none of our teams went in as a single agency. they did a fan tas sitastic job.

and also, the coordination with the military and with our fire ems to get victims to safety and to medical treatment. just a fantastic job, thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is mike monroe i'm a special agent in charge of the washington special agent service. i would like to extend my condolences to the families of the fallen. we send our prayers to the families of those. ncis has been engaged with this investigation from the mediate response. respond in a multiagency effort to the building. after the agency joined with the police officer they entered the building and engaged the threat.

those agents removed him from the building and got him the medical care. following the engagement with the threat. our special agents have been engaged on the special effort and we are following up on lea s s collectively and we will be engaged with this conclusion. we appreciate the support of the agencies involved in supporting the community and those affected at the washington navy yard during this incident. thank you. >> gooafternoon. i'm ron machin for the u.s. district of columbia. i want to send out thoughts and prayers on this tragedy.

this remains an active investigation. prosecutors from the u.s. attorney's office were working hand in hand with law enforcement officials to try to give them the tools that they need so that they can understand the events that lead to today's tragedy. as we have moved from the crisis stage our focus and offers are going to be in what caused his man to kill so many innocent men and women. how did he carry out and plan this attack. how did he get access to the weapons? >> what could have been done to prevent this tragedy. we are not going to stop until we get answers to those questions.

that is important for the city and the community but most of all for the loved ones who were lost yesterday. we fully expect that this investigation will take weeks and months. we are going to try to get to the bottom of this terrible event. i want to say that yesterday which was such a dark moment in our city and country's dark history was a time of dedication and heroism. i'm proud to stand here today with our law enforcement partners who put aside their own safety. i fully expect that to continue in the coming days, and weeks and months ahead as we work heart to answer those tough questions. thank you.

>> good afternoon everybody. i'm cheer of the fire department in washington, d.c. >> we have heard a lot of words like tragedy and darkness. i heard important words and i will try to answer one or two questions why. why do we work multi jurisdiction alley training for something like this. also why do we adhere to strict rules? why? we don't want to have to think about the responses. i want to commend everybody here. for the work that they did. for the police forces and the fire and ems department. to do as much as we could to resolve this issue they are going to continue their investigation it is completed

and hope that we never have to repeat anything like this again. >> okay we'll go ahead and take a few questions. >> the purchase of the shotgun was it a lawful purchase? >> it was a lawful purchase made in virginia. >> is it possible that he was just mentally ill and there was no motive here? >> so, the motivation whatever that is, is currently under investigation and we are not going to comment on it at this time. >> can you explain the decision not to lock down the city when you thought there were three gun men? >> i can't comment on that at this time. >> can you explain the decision

not to lock down the city? >> the decision was one that we thought through carefully. we had information that we could not dismiss. we errored on the side of caution. but we had to rundown some additional information one of which we cleared quickly. the other one we took longer. locking done a city is not as easy as it seems and one that we would take likely. if we thought that we had that threat we would have taken those steps. >> you said 7 minutes after the

threat you maiden trde entry. >> the question was how long was it for the officers to make entry and then to neutralize the suspect. >> two minutes after the call was dispatched we had two units on the scene. we had additional ar 15 units that had been deployed out in the area. they were close by and responsed within four or five minutes we had five to seven units going into the gates. there were different buildings calls coming e ing in giving dit building numbers. within 7 minutes we had two units and possibly four units outside of the building where the shooter was that could hear the gun fire.

and we know at this time two of them went in and heard the gunshots and went in and started giving and passing information on. their actions once inside the thought that they put into making sure that other teams could get ip an and move around safely was unbelievable. i don't have the time before the final engagement. that will come later, but i can tell you there was multiple engagements with the suspect before the final shots were fired. i can't give you the exact time. >> all right we have been watching the news conference. that was the washington, d.c. police chief. there were multiple engagements

between several different law enforcement agencies inside that bu building. also that he was determined to take out as many people that he could. this was a very, very violent situation going on. and also, they were giving each other a lot of kudos for how it was handled. and felt that a lot of people's lives were saved because of that. >> i want to bring in the host of "war stories". welcome. >> spent many many times going in and out of the gates of the navy yard. that is where we go to the parade about 100 yards away. >> you look at this and one of the questions and one of the things they are going to work on is what could have been done to avoid this. we know that the gun was purchased legally.

in he got in with a contractor pass that was a valid pass. and walked right in the door. >> pretty clear that the response that they launched was remarkable. they are good at response. but it shows that we are still lousy at prevention. despite controlled access cards, metal detecters, and machines bad people get to do bad things even on a military base. all of thighs technical equipment those cards gives people working on a base a false sense of safety. it is also clear there have been no lessons learned since major nidal hassan's ft. hood massacre. this wasn't a jihad attack.

but when he opened fire on a military base, the first responders weren't military personnel. that is important. in march of 1993, u.s. military bases were effectively made gun-free zones by executive order issued by bill clinton. that is why hassan could fire for more than ten minutes and alexis could fire for more than 7 minutes without anyone shooting back. most of these people were probably killed before police could get there. all of the policemen responded but most of the killing was already done. >> the other thing is that we learned that his rank was lowered because of a disorderly

behavior charge within the military and he was arrested in atlanta. and you know are we too careful. are we too i guess pc would be one of the terms that we could use that we don't try to put foengs like this on a list and keep an eye out for this guy. he has a history and how does he get to be a contractor in the first place with that history? >> there is a level of in competence. nadal was allowed to stay ip n e army despite his feeling toward jihad. alexas was allowed to keep a cat card and be a contractor. there is in competence and it looks like the milt and our

government have issued over four million security clearances. how do these people get to keep them. rather than the attack that is coming on the second amendment of the constitution as a means of restricting that to prevent the bad acts from happening. it is broken. the dhs turned me down as a trusted travel ever and never bon th bothered to tell me why. it is a broken system. >> what more evidence do you need than that? as you put it before. sadly the people who work ed in that building has a false sense of security. everybody has a card and that in some ways absolves people to get a happenndle on who is coming id

out of the building. that is something we need to think about as well. >> we will see you soon. >> so just ahead. we will have new reaction from the white house as the president is criticized for delivering a economic speech in the middle of this navy yard shooting incident that went through out the day yesterday. and the president is saying that there is no evidence that the health care law -- we'll be right back. >> and there is no serious evidence that the law which has helped to keep down the rise in health care costs to their lowest level in 50 years is holding back economic growth. ( bell rings ) they remind me so much of my grandkids.

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costs. aetna pulls out of the health exchange. or this head line. or how about how unions fail to get fix on the key concern. insurers limiting doctors and this morning we had this one on usa today. health care law faces difficult future. joining me now on this carl rove. we have like duly realities here. costs are going down and then you have these articles which point to conversations with businesses around the country. >> look, when the president signed this into law the average premium for a family of four

website $13,475. it has gone up 18%. nearly a $5,000 difference from what he promises it would be. so the costed are not going down. when the law was passed, the office said three million people would lose their coverage. the ceo said we are going to lose their coverage. the department now says nope, that is wrong. it is going to be 14 million people. the group says it is going to be a minimum of 17.2 million people. they are going to drop coverage and it could be 53 million people. and then we get into the problem of jobs. if we get into the business of a

full time employee. we are seeing a lot of small businesses say we are going to stop hiring. we have had an average of 42,000 full-time jobs created and 62,000 part-time jobs created per month. >> that is evidence that clearly companies are moving to the part-time model. you don't need to move to the company's biggest supporters. we are seeing that. in the last year, the number of people who work 30 to 34 hours per week has dropped 146,500 per month. the number of people who are working 20-29 hours per week. has grown 119,000 per month.

so not only are we hiring part-time people, but the team who do have jobs are being told you are only going to get less than 30 hours at this shop. let's look at the poll numbers that fox has out today. this one, how concerned are you about your health care law. you have 43% and 25% together are somewhat concerned about what is going to happen to their health care. which would be better on obamacare? if you could go back to the 2009 system? 54% saying give me what i have. if you are at time warner, then leave the new law in place 35%. now there are people out there who claim that costs are going down and there are surveys out

there that are pointing to that say no, it is true. costs are going down. the most prominent is the kaiser fund. it compared the increases to what the administration thought they might be. they were saying you estimated too high it is not going to be that robust. the institute has a website up in which you can compare the premium increases. there are states like maine and new york where health insure costs may fall. they are less robust than the mandates that are in state law. increases go to a manhattan institute and you can follow your state. they will have them calculated

but you will see your state has an increase that is pretty dramatic. >> i want to ask you about this. the president's decision to go on tomorrow -- yesterday and do the economic speech and lambast republican ares at the same time as we were watching this dra t dramatic manhunt. >> who ever said that to the president we don't need to worry about what is going on at the navy yard ought to be run out of the white house gate. this was a stupid speech. it did nothing to help solve the country's economic difficulties. the biggest thing to help solve the country's problem was tarp.

i didn't mention it at all. he let the day pass with that awa award. well, there is some reporting today that said they wish they could have yesterday back. but of course you can't. >> not in politics. >> carl, thank you. always good to see you. we will see you soon. >> the biggest fight over who gets the gold and who gets burned. my customers can shop around.

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some new reaction now from the white house moments ago as the president faces criticism today for his decision to go

ahead with a speech yesterday as he stood literally as he stood two miles away from what was going on, on the right of your screen. the manhunt at that point, that was still underway. residents were under shelter in place orders in many parts of the city. hundreds of navy yard employees were still being evacuated at that point. so just a few minutes ago and he responded to the questions about the president's timing and here is what he said. >> i know ed asked this yesterday and still a good idea to give what was a very partisan speech even after yesterday what happened at the navy yard.

>> the president spoke about the navy yard. he talked about the loss of life and demanded a seamless investigation. but with federal and local law enforcement officials and that is what we are seeing now. it is a fact that we have very little time for congress to act. and the consequences for the economy failing to act would be significant. >> let's put that question to the panel. joining me now david webb, co-founder and a fox news contributor. you have a lot of titles. and doug shaw. i do want to play a little bit from last night and then we'll jump in. >> the president in that speech

was back to hyper partisan mode. slashing attack on republicans. i thought it was in bad taste. he could have waited until tomorrow. it isn't as if it was a holy anniversary. >> this president tends to engage in partisan attacks from the platform more than any president i can remember. he is talking about the party and he attacks the republican party. i don't think it is particularly attractive. >> i think it was a terrible tragedy that happened yesterday. i think it underscores the terrible toll that gun violence has. we have had almost 200 mass shootings in the last seven years. but we have a lot of serious issues to deal with. the media in our culture tends

to obsess. all of the coverage yesterday was on the navy yard. in the past weeks it has been all about syria. the government is going to hit it's debt ceiling and if we don't get things started we are going to see what happened before. the fact that some republicans say it was a partisan outburst. he is simply trying to get speaker bay nor to get his things in line. >> he made all of those points in the speech. doug, you worked in the white house what would you have advised? >> i would have advised a different toep. there is a larger point. we need not hyper partisanship. we are all americans.

we are facing the debt ceiling. we are american challenges particularly when the nation is put at risk. can't we talk about this as one nation but we have to come to consensus. >> that is what troubles me, martha. what we have here is a president who is a politician. they don't have a team ear, when it serves their purpose, they will speak as needed. this is bad optics. it doesn't matter right or left. my question would be why it took so long to lower the flags to half mast in the evening when we had an 8:00 am start of this event. these things are playing out and early reports are often

confusing. but when a president sets a tone he sets a toep fne for the natio follow. we have families who have lost loved ones. >> i think and i've asked this question before about the president. this is a second term president. he is not running again and he does default offten to the partisan kind of language. when you look at this from the most political perspective ber na nard, reques yesterday was a mo be president. there is nothing i can't say today that i can't say tomorrow morning. when you look at the speech he had said almost everything in it before. what was the urgency? >> well we do have very little

time? >> the fact is that we have a month to get this solved and frankly he can talk as much as we like for bipartisanshibipart need the approach on reducie ii gun violence and coming to the agreement on the fiscal vice sis. but the fact is the speaker cannot control his conference. the president does not have a party with which to negotiate. >> what elements is the president willing to negotiate on? this is about spending cuts. >> there is a simple statement made by the president. he will not compromise bernard likes to throw the slings out there. if he will not compromise you

cannot negotiate. we have a month to solve a problem that has been around for a year. in fact he is pirroetting like a baller are ina. >> there are real issues on both sides. >> you are right. the president is not compromising enough. but you want to shut down the government because we allegedly should not fund things that have been passed. >> you are doing what the speaker and his republican colleagues do. talk not listen. find me the one republican that has said we want to shut down government. >> we have to leave it there. >> we have got to reach a point

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dis' night and other true tails -- named after a tradition of detroiters, setting their own neighborhoods ablaze. joining in is the author. it's heartbreaking. you think of the great history of detroit, the motown, cars, all of the culture that was so strong in that city, and then you juxtapose that with the motion of people peopling their own neighborhoods. why? >> well, that's an issue. it's a good question. i went to detroit -- this book was originally within in 1990, and published today. i didn't think it would come back but it has. people burned almost for reasons that were not clear but there are no more home0s burn. devil's night is something that

people don't do anymore because the city is actually so beaten up that i don't think there's enough energy for anybody to go out the night before halloween and burp -- burn anything down. >> there's a lot of talk about the unions and impact on the car companies, the promises made in terms of pensions and money that ran out. at those companies to what do you attribute the decline of detroit primarily? >> well, a lot of factors, but one of the unexplored factor is durational ones. detroit hat a terrible riot in 1967. it precipitated an enormous flight of middle class out of the city in detroit there was a mayor, coleman young, attractive and chairs malt tick guy, but -- charismatic guy but he decided he would rule detroit if he became mayor, as a majority

black city, as though it war a a separatist city in opposition to the white suburbs, and he and the people in the sub burs credited a relationship reminds me of the an nosety between israelis and palestinians. a degree of hatred. and it became clear even a city as great as detroit has been, can't survive in america as a separatist racial city. it needed the cooperation of suburbs, and the suburbs needed detroit as an anchor. so what i found when i wrote this book and what is still true today, was that this was inevitable kind of decline. >> let's talk about what we hope will be the silver lining for detroit. it has become a cymbal -- almost a canary in a coal mine. if the canary can survive and

the city comes back with responsible managers trying to take control and be realistic about the obligations, it could be a beacon of hope for the country. it's possible, right? >> anything is possible. >> you're not too optimistic. >> i certainly wouldn't predict back then, and i'm surprised even now, that the city is being run by a republican governor. >> first time since the '60s. >> yes. actually the first time ever. but detroit, since the '70s, was run really as a black majority city, and the fact it is -- and a democratic city, and the fact it's now under gubernatorial control and a viable candidate for mayor who is black and this is the first time that's happened since. the 1970s. i don't want to say it's hopeful in the sense that someone is white or black would be better, but the fact that the racial issue is in detroit --

>> thank you. sounds fascinating. devil's night and the other true tales of detroit good to have you here. >> we'll be right back.

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>> thanks a lot. "studio b" with trace starts now. >> this is "studio b." the warning signs were there all along. we are now learning --ing new details on the shooter who gunned down 12 people yesterday at the washington navy yard. according to the "associated "ad press," law enforcement sources say the gunman, earn alexis, has been hearing voices and was getting treatment for several mental disorders. they say he had a history of angry episodes, including not one but two arrests over the years involving guns. he worked as a contractor for the navy after serving in the navy reserves. officials say that during his hitch, aaron alexis had a, quote, history of misconduct, fox 2 has lear