here's another quiz, what does the number 9 mean? go to gta wire.com. you'll find out why 9 is important tonight. 9. why do you think? good night. nk? good night.nk? back hello, everyone. happy monday. it's dana perino along with kimberly guy file, greg gut felt and bob beckle. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." all eyes on the u.n. tomorrow as the 68th general assembly kicks off. the stakes very high for president obama. iran's nuclear ambitions and israeli/palestinian tensions. believe it or not, ed henry is here in new york with the president. we're happy to have him in studio. >> i hope i didn't mess you up at the beginning. >> i must be really nervous you're here. someone from my past is going to join us. get started with the substance, i want to be clear,

are you okay with everything that's going to happen to your career from this point on? >> you should call it "the six" just for today. >> the way i'm going, i'll probably call it something else by the end. as in not good. >> i'm excited. >> it's good to have you. can you set up the week for us? last year, president obama didn't have any meetings with any foreign leaders. this year, he has a full dance card. >> last year, it was right before the election. they didn't want an errant syllable here or there on a foreign policy issue to blow up and have romney pick it up. now he has to face the fact that there is a full plate of national security crises that he has to deal with. he was re-elected. he believed he had a mandate. on both the domestic and foreign policy front, he's had one crises after another and hasn't gotten a lot of what he wanted to get. here's his chance. we've seen the problems pile up. if he can get something with iran, for example that gets him to take a step back from their third for nuclear weapons, that's a huge if, but if he can get that, maybe he'll start

making some progress on these issues but there's skeptics everywhere. >> one of the questions is whether or not president obama would be willing to meet with them. it looks lo s like for the firse since '79 john kerry will meet with the leader of iran. >> this seems like a hallway putin-esque kind of thing where they don't have a formal one on one and you don't confer that power of the presidency on the new iranian president but a little hallway encount wear they say there's some openness. but look, it's similar to what's happening with the russians on the syria deal. where, you know, it looks good on paper. but already the first deadline was missed. there are crack, in the deal that was sealed in geneva. hope springs eternal. will the fine print mean anything? you've already seen benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, saying he's going to take a hard line against this. his problem with it, this might be the way it was with north korea years ago. that gave them the time to get nuclear weapons. >> there's a little difference

here. the iranian president said, without any question, we are not building nuclear weapons. >> that's what he said. >> we hadn't heard that before. then he's going into the nuclear nonproliferation committee meeting where he will repeat that again. seems what he's doing is coellising the world around him. because he's not telling the truth. what in the world are people saying is wrong with obama having a meeting with this guy, hallway, bathroom, wherever? >> the reason why there's an issue with this is because -- when i rran talk, they also act. they'll negotiate while building centrifuges. they can multitask. where all obama does is talk, speaks softly and carries a big thesaurus. >> the syrian issue, there was a diplomatic opening there. it was almost accidentally where john kerry gets one question, throws it out there, his staff immediately said, no, he didn't mean to say that. the russians said, maybe we'll

do a deal so the white house and state department said, okay. >> brilliant. >> very reactive. will he be able to seize the initiative with iran or is it just reacting to the new opening from the new iranian president? and not actually looking forward down the field as to action? >> couple quick points. i can't imagine they're going to get -- clearly nothing signed. >> not this week. >> so what's the point? you go to meeting and you say you've met with the iranians. what does that tell the rest of the world. you're meeting with a terrorist organization, funding arm of most terrorism around the world. you're putting the american people in the room with them. think you're sending a bad single. you're sending certainly a bad single to israel. >> the counter to that is why not talking to them? they're getting closer and closer to getting nuclear weapons. >> well, not -- >> well, they are. >> yes, but by talking to them, i don't think you make them further away from getting them. >> you can try. >> this is going to be the one

year anniversary of, when pre president obama went to the podium at the u.n. and said you know what benghazi what benghazi was all about that video. i'd love to hear something -- >> kimberly -- do you mind if i ask kimberly a question? >> i do. >> i would love to hear what kimberly thinks. >> the iranians, i know you don't trust the iranians. very few people do. after they've said that publicly, by the pretz sident o the country, we will not build nuclear weapon, does it hurt to sit down after that break through and say, exactly what it you mean? >> if you believe they're being truthful, which i don't, but i'm coming from a place of cautious skepticism and with good historical reason. you think this is a move forward in the right direction and you honestly believe that negotiations or sitting down with them are going to be fruitful both for the united states and internationally, then i guess you would do it.

perhaps that's their reasoning. i'm more distrustful of it so i doubt it. >> but think about all of these scandals. whether eric bringing up benghazi, you bringing up syria. they're already in the rearview mirror. like everything else, a shelf like of an obama scandal is less than an open container. >> what is the scandal about syria? >> the way reacted. his scandals have less of a shelf life than an open con tarn of mayo. let me finish my sentence. >> i'm sorry. >> he doesn't throw people under the bus, he just drives right over them. >> he tries to drive over them, realizes the american people don't want the bus driven that way, then walks it back. and goes, you know, we were actually thinking about doing that anyway. >> is that a red line metaphor? >> bob, what in the world makes you think you can trust anything rohani says? he doesn't run the country. you know who runs the country. >> that's not the point.

the point is you have to sit there and have a conversation. doesn't hurt. may not help. >> but you've got to act while you talk. that's what the iranians do. they act and they talk while they're negotiating. they're building things. we just talk. that's the problem. >> if they're building them anyway -- >> the talking allows them to build. >> does the russian president corps consider syria a scandal, the way -- >> i hadn't heard it described that way before. you could describe the way the president's backed into this sort of almost fortunate diplomatic -- >> how about incompetence? can we call it incompetence extraordinaire? >> that's your word, not mine. he struggled week to week on this and said one week, you know, we're not going to go to congress, we're going to do this on our own. then he pulled back and said, let's go to congress. they didn't have the votes. they said, no, let's not go to congress. look, if he can get this breakthrough with the russians on syria without ever firing a shot, that's not necessarily a bad thing. >> when bush does something,

it's bafoonery. when obama does it, it's a struggle. >> you remember last week, the horrible shooting in washington, d.c. at the navy yard that resulted in 12 people being killed. take a look at president obama last night in washington. >> i do not accept that we cannot find a commonsense way to preserve our traditions, including our basic second amendment freedoms and the rights of law-abiding gun owners. while at the same time reducing the gun violence that unleashes so much mayhem on a regular basis. and it may not happen tomorrow and it may not happen next week. it may not happen next month. but it will happen. >> okay, just practical reality, ed, how is it going to happen? >> that's what's significant. he's almost reluctantly saying, look i don't know if it's next week, next month. that's a lot different after newtown when it was a call to action.

he said, we've got to do it, we're going to do it. this is a president who has hit brick wall after brick wall on these issues and is confronting a new reality which is he's almost done with his first year of his second term with basically no domestic achievements. didn't get a grand bargain budget deal. these are facts. he's trying to turn it around quickly. come next year he's got no political capital. >> while we got you here, immigration, the assumption that immigration is dead through 2014? >> there's a hope signed the white house after some of these primary deadlines in early 2014 are done, meaning a republican finds out he or she doesn't have a conservative primary opponent, that after that closes, they might actually cut a deal on immigration, because they won't fear, you know, a primary challenge from the right. but i think that's a little too optimistic. if there's anything -- >> one more, can i ask a second follow-up question? >> sure, please. >> is it on the things we were -- >> i was curious about the answer.

>> you're like a commercial break question. >> wayne la pierre went on one of those shows and said, gee, if we all had gun, we'd all be fine. what obama is calling for here is an expanded background check. why do they not think that's possible to get through? any creatant would understand the importance of that. >> it's important to do. on the other hand, the shooter in this case, there were background checks done and they didn't find a problem. and so it proves there's still cracks in the system unfortunately. so unless you come up with some fool proof background check, it's still a hard case on capitol hill because of the nra. >> well, because if you had a background check -- >> doesn't mean you couldn't fight for it. >> anybody who goes into a mental institution should be checked. >> this is beckle filibustering because he doesn't want to get to obama care. >> we are going to get to obama care. >> can i just comment on guns? i don't know if that was the right place to talk about guns. because if you -- could have gotten maybe speck aboific about

he meant. who is he compromising with? the left and the far left? there's no other -- there's no one else he's talking to about guns. if he would, he would talk about mental health. it's not really about rounding up guns. it's about looking at the people who have guns. i don't know. gun free zones create a fair ground of sitting ducks. >> somebody who was at a mental -- in a mental institution, should they have guns? you ask them. >> well, they can't. weem done this time and time. >> the law's in place lshgs bob. >> if you've been admitted into a mental institution -- >> he worse. >> forcibly admitted against your will, then you cannot get a gun. he was not, bob, ever. >> i'm saying anybody -- >> that's what happens, it become, a strongman argument where there's nothing really to fight against. he's not arguing against anybody. and he's not compromising with anybody on anything, including obama care. let's take a look at some of the things president obama said about obama care in the past. >> we will keep this promise.

to the american people. if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. this is not some government takeover. if you like your doctor, you can keep seeing your doctor. >> in "the new york times" today, on the front page, it was like a revelation. >> i cannot believe you took him out of context like that. and you took it and you edited it -- you made it look like he was talking about your doctor when he was talking about dr. pepper. he was arguing in defense of removing dr. pepper from schools and you made it tasound like he was talking about mds. >> the story said for most people who are poor in lower, middle class, they were going to get their monthly premiums were going to go down and the people who are wealthier who can afford it are going to be able to keep their own doctors. now we've got obama care proving

you can lower your monthly payments and you will be able to go to -- >> you just made a comment that is factually inaccurate. >> what's that? >> no premiums have gone down. they've gone up. >> if you read that story -- >> they've risen faster than they were rising prior to obama coming on. >> but they have not gone down. you're forecasting the future. >> maybe in 3020. >> maybe. >> from the communications perspective when you talk to the white house, are they concerned that this is -- that obama care continues to be like lead weights around their ankles? october 1st is when the exchanges supposedly open. >> it's a struggle for them. they haven't been able to communicate this effectively with the american people. you see polls turning against the president's health care law. it's been getting worse. what they're hoping inside the white house is they'll get past the speed bumps and in the end they're going to save the law and then once these benefits start kicking in, it's going to be harder and harder for republicans on the hill to fight

it but they haven't gotten to that yet. >> ted cruz is not a speed bump, he's a big hole in the ground. >> kimberly, do you want to comment on obama care? >> after bob had his little truth serum sips during the show. >> you want to move on? >> i think we should move on. >> just a point, saying obama care is cheaper is like saying a bus fare is cheaper than a plane fare. you can travel across country but it will take you a week and you'll be sitting next to richard greieco. >> and there's no clean bathroom. >> this reveals the hypocrisy of the left. >> at least they'll get there. >> yeah, maybe. >> if they survive. there's only one route. >> well, you've got to keep up with the analogies on the five. that is one of our specialties. lois learner. remember her? she was at the irs. i've got a theory. she announced today she's going to retire. after i think five or six months

of getting paid while on leave, had a great summer vacation. now she's going to retire with no problems whatsoever. she pled the fifth. i think this is what we should -- this is my new theory on this, ed. i don't need any more investigation. we know she was a political favorite. she went to the irs because of her connections. she targeted the tea party in particular at the request of the political appointees at the white house. now we're just left with pretty much nothing. >> there's never been the proof that the white house actually directed it. >> do you think there ever will be? >> once lois learner's gone. >> no, because now she's been silenced. they gave her essentially cement boots in the form of retirement so we're not going to hear from her. that's their play. they've been able to use that successfully. not just here but in other places where they've had problems or, quote, scandals in the administration. the american people deserve the answers. he should be forth right. >> she wanted to spend more time

with her family on a bus. >> i think you can call her again. >> yes, you could and they should be. >> and she'd probably take the fifth again. i also like -- it's a little bit off topic. general hamm, i want to talk benghazi. general hamm again and again, we talked about it, i called five different phone numbers for this guy. >> you're stalking him. >> why don't they call -- one of the panelists call general hamm to testify and tell the american people -- >> some have tried. >> what we need to see -- >> where is he? >> yes, where is he? we can't find him. >> he didn't get back to us. >> where's hamm? >> he's on a bus. >> quick comment about obama care since i haven't yet -- >> yes, you did. >> on the irs scandal. i don't think it came from the white house. i'm sure glad somebody thought of it. this is politics. it's a tough business. >> glad someone targeted the tea party? >> yes, indeed. >> this is after you said it was the biggest scandal? bob, do you realize we have all

these clips for weeks of you saying this was the biggest problem? >> it's a terrible problem. >> now you're happy? >> you realize that? >> of course i realize that. >> now it's not wrong? >> of course it's wrong. it's terrible. it's wrong. >> now you're saying it's a good idea? >> i'm saying if i were sitting there, i would have done it. >> guy, the bus is leaving. >> okay, the bus has run other me. ed, aren't you glad you came? >> i'm getting on the bus. >> directly ahead on the five over the weekend, a massacre of at least 60 people in kenya and attacked a christian church in pakistan. new developments on both those stories when we come back.

the terrorists slaughtering innocents at a nairobi shopping center had kwiquizzed the victi on the name of muhammad's name for being spared. they died at the hands of cowards. the conclusion, convert. at least on vacation.

fact is, hazardous to your health toy or hindu or anything else nonmusl nonmuslim. maybe travel agents should give us the cliff notes to islam in case you come face-to-face with an angry faith. having a hijab happened could save your life. this doesn't happen in america. we don't kill if you're wearing -- if you're not wearing plaid pants. yet we're the infidels. perhaps we just don't believe strongly enough. i know people are going to ask where are the moderate muslim has condemning such actions? did on twitter. it's michigan executive director rebuked, the jews. he mocked those damn money-grubbing jews who went to the kenyan mall to help stop the blood shed because they have stores there. the idiot condemned the attack as an afterthought. our government actually paid this guy to speak abroad about american backlash against muslims. in pakistan, the taliban homicide bombed a christian church killing 75 people. the worst attack on the christian minority there.

the old saying, you attract bees with honey. i'm not sure the religion of peace sees it that way at times. the zell lot ofs of islam seek to prove the existence of heaven by creating a hell here on eth. earth. we've been talking about this before the show. do you think -- we haven't had a shopping mall terror attack in the united states. are we just lucky? >> well, you know, depends on how you define terror. if you can hold up a gun and shoot 13 people saying ala sk shkbar. you take your life in your hands any time you travel outside of the united states. they say islam is the religion of peace, but they have to start proving it. they're not proving it anywhere. >> they're not the religious of peace. they're the religion of islamic -- listen, people who are supposedly people, you

moderate muslims out there. i know i've been on this thing for a long time. the time has come for you to stand up and say something. i repeat what i said before. no muslim students coming here with visas. no more being build here until you stand up and denounce what's happened in the name of your prophet. it is not what your prophet met. i don't know what his mother's name, i don't care. the time has come for muslims in this country and for other people around the world to stand up and be counted. if you can't, you're cowards. >> okay. all righty then. >> what do you think about the threat here? i think there were two attempts here that were stopped before they happened. >> i think we've been diligent. we have every reason to do so. think the minute we start to cut back, okay, and not be diligent, we're going to be in trouble. this is just an example of how easy it is for something like

this to happen. it's shocking. it's horrible. there was an eight month pregnant woman who was murdered because she wasn't muslim, okay. it's heart wrenching. >> and she was there working on malaria project for the clinton global initiative. british. >> nobody's safe. you travel abroad, really, depending on where you're going, you're taking your life in your hands. the intolerance, the veiolence, the persecution of nonmuslims is staggering. people should be worried. they should be afraid. >> has anybody heard from the head of any muslim country, any cleric, anybody heard from any -- >> have you heard from c.a.r.i.? >> have you heard from rorohani? >> you're going to continue to get this. i'm telling you, unless you stand up and try to give some sense of responsibility for what your religion stands for and what these fanatical idiots --

you ought to ban them from the church. >> it is really about a fear of being killed. isn't that why people are quiet? >> the idea is to then strike fear into how we live our daily lives. they hate freedom because freedom is against everything they believe in. extremis extremists. this is why it was called the global war on terror. so we -- i think that this is the ultimate battle of good versus evil. i also kept saying -- jesse waters of the o'reilly factor had a piece two weeks ago where he had gone to this national muslim convention here in new york city and all of these young people, they were people that you would want to -- well maybe not have a beer with i guess. maybe have a sandwich. they were really nice young kids. and their leaders are doing them a disservice. >> throw this out here very quickly, bob. we buy oil from iran and globally iran takes that money and finances terrorism around the world.

terrorists kill people, innocent people and create terror in malls. at some point, you don't sit down with rohani or the iranian people -- >> you do not buy oil from iran. >> bob, i will tell you, unequivocally, we buy oil from iran. we buy oil from people who buy oil from iran. don't talk to me about oil. 20 years in the oil business, i will tell you there is iranian oil in our refineries. >> should we buy from iran? >> bob, you want to talk about -- >> bottom line, we have it from them, that's just the fact. >> all right, i'm being yelled at. is north korea a drug user's paradise? the meth epidemic happening inside the dictatorship. dad. how did you get here? i don't know.

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at the emmys last night. "breaking bad" and "modern family" took the top prizes for best drama and best comedy series. more than 17 million people watched, bob, you were glued to the set. what were you doing? >> i was flying out there to be there on the red carpet and my plane was delayed so i couldn't be there. the only thing i would say is why "house of cards" did not get more awards i do not know. you vote for "newsroom," a cheap horrible show compared to "house of cards." >> that was interesting. you ba hum baed that. greg. >> jeff daniels winning over bryan cranston, "newsroom," is obnoxious, left wing, was a sad moment. want to point out just overall award shows are basically funerals for the living. it's amazing that people who get the most attention in the history of the world, celebrity, need to have a show to still tell them how important they are. they need stars to tell stars that they're special.

weird. >> yes. they all looked really bored too at the beginning. >> they're all high. >> i guess there's a lot of anticipation, you could probably get a little nervous. >> mr. bolling, you are my personal tv guide. i just ask you what should i watch and then you told me "24," but i'd seen that so you have some other suggestions. well, before, before. >> "dexter" ended last night. after eight seasons. i was going to talk about "homeland" because i love that and it's starting next week. but i have to talk about "stephen colbert." took home for the first time the best variety show. beat jon stewart out. wish him a big congratulations. he was himself when he accepted his award. his character is a cross between bill o'reilly and greta van susteren. he's a really nice guy. loved to see him. >> you may have helped him. >> you think?

>> maybe you were great material. >> big of you to say that after he trashed you like that. >> couple times. >> listen, as long as bolling's getting air time attention, he's like, yeah. >> green. >> okay. i hope he edits out certain things. >> right. >> okay, all right. so i love always the fashion. shocking. i love the red carpet moments. i actually think that was the strongest part of the show last night because it was a little bit dull. i hate to say it. besi besides the dance, neil patrick harris. >> you see that woman with the flowered dress? >> did you like it, bob? >> that was disgraceful. >> you wouldn't turn her away. >> i wouldn't turn anybody away walking -- but that dress, ooh. >> what else are some good shows? bolling, you say "dexter." "homeland." what else? >> "walking dead." loving. "homeland" starts next week. a lot of people are upset about

the way it's all about terrorism. politics and terror. >> you and peter are quite the team. >> i loved "house of card." "justified" is my favorite. and for competition show and actually one of the prizes was "the voice" on nbc which starts up i think maybe even tonight. not that i'm saying you should watch it. >> you should only just watch "the five." >> my choice would be to see "the house of cards" and also to see the repeat of "the five" at 2:00 and then see "red eye" at 5:00. then on saturday, i would see eric's show. very good. >> when you wake up in time to be on it. >> i got on it. >> one time. >> i was a little late once. >> exactly. okay. command performance. ahead on "the five," reports that north korean dictator kim jong-un is producing massive amounts of the highly addictive

drug crystal meth and may be looking to export it around the world. details when we come back.

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"breaking bad" and won an emmy for best drama. it's about a high skochoo schoo who makes crystal meth. >> you produce a meth that's 70% pure, if you're lucky. what i produce is 99.1% pure. so? >> so it's grade school t-ball versus the new york yankees. yours is just some tepid off-brand generic koala. what i'm making is classic coke. >> all right. a fictional character, but in the real world north korean dictator kim jong-un may be responsible for a meth epidemic in his own country and other countries around him. reports say north korea is pumping out massive quantities of methamphetamine with up to 50% of the people in some parts

of the country hooked on the drug. my experience, crystal meth is the most dangerous drug, the most addictive, and you get to 98% and 99%, scientists making this. used to suppress appetites. one of the things they are doing, clearly a country that's starving, and i guess they decided to make all their people addicts. it's just unbelievable to me that a country could get away with that. >> i was going to say plus because there are so many countries that refuse to do business with north korea, they don't have enough hard currency, and so they are looking for ways to export products and goods that would be lucrative for them. this is like a slow moving weapons of mass destruction. the drug addiction in their own country is going to be lax but when it's exported to china or even over to the united states it could be really bad. >> if -- if you're a dictator and your country doesn't have oil, have you to export something, and it's not going to be terror, it's going to be drugs and kim jong-un's point, i

guess it's drugs. unfortunately, our kids -- is that hitting our shores though? >> oh, yeah, that's the problem. one. things is the big meth labs are in illinois, missouri, tennessee. they put out stuff that's 70%. >> and in southern california. >> and southern california. it is a huge market, and if they are probably not 98%, 99%, there are going to be a lot of dead people. >> i think that was from the show "breaking bad," that number. i don't know if actually north korea is doing that. but now we know why -- >> they have scientists making it. >> now we know why dennis rodman is so happy and going over there all the time. >> not hungry, they are like whatever, and they are addicted so it's like making zombies, robots. >> scientists are making this stuff, and they apparently dedicated a lot of scientists doing it, a very high quality methamphetamine, and methamphetamine, give you an example. methamphetamine, they call it a

poor man's cocaine. a gram of methamphetamine will last you three days. a gram of cocaine lasted me about three minutes, but the -- it is a very, very dangerous drug. >> and it's not that difficult to make, and that's why people are manufacturing, children getting killed because it's very explosive. >> one more thing is up next.

time now for "one more thing" and because she's been so well behaved let's start with kimberly. >> thank you very much. appreciate that, dana. want to give you a little update. interesting article in "rolling stone" magazine that you might like and enjoy the band mumford & sons. they will be taking a much-needed break. won't be performing live for a while. they played their last tour date on friday night in bgr) springs, kansas. our senior producer loves them as well. so great band. >> is that what -- >> do you like them? >> i do like their music, it's good. >> oh, wow. >> so mean, you're so mean. >> i'm joining eric on that. >> i think traveling to north korea too often. wish them the best and fans are waiting for them to come back. >> we will stay on this story. >> bob, you're next. >> hazing from the left side of the table. >> obama getting heat about his

golf game, particularly from eric. like to hear from somebody who had that office before and what he had to say. >> why is golf such a hot button issue? >> i think he ought to play golf. >> why is that. >> i know the pressures of the job and to be able to get outside and play golf with some of your pals is important for the president. it does give you an outlet. >> it's a good release. >> and i think it's good for the president to be out playing golf. >> enough said. >> so nice. >> yeah, you know why, because if he's out playing golf there's less meddling in u.s. foreign and domestic policy. >> eric? >> my son told me the grand theft auto five have a lot in common, all his friends are saying i look like this guy. that's the protagonist, michael, but also this. if you play the game, inside there's a cookie you can open up, and there's this guy, impotent rage, a liberal superhero who gobbles viagra and spews liberal talking points, i kid you not.

>> that's bob. >> i kid you not. >> that actually explains a lot. >> you have to explain cookie, not like a real edible thing. >> if you play around in the game, you can find it. >> greg. >> exciting news for oakland raider fans, a new cartoon mascot from nickelodeon. thinking, this looks a lot like somebody i know. well, i guess -- what the -- >> that's the most idiotic -- >> you people are incompetent. >> that was actually my one more thing. >> is that what happened? >> well done, people. >> that was my one more thing,l% that's jasper showing you walker's point which is her george h.w. bush lives with barbara bush for most of the years. he was on the beach, and we've

had a great monday, and we are going to be back at it tomorrow. next, you'll see "special report" up on fox news >> welcome to "red eye." it is like house of cards if by cards you mean dolphin figurines that usually end up in a trashcan at the emergency room. due to andy levy's tragic death attempting a wheelly in a bumper car there is no pre game report. so we will just go to our guests. she is so hot, sunscreen wears her to the beach. i am here with defense attorney jonna spill bore. and dimitri's new hip hop theme cooking show "grilzz" premieres next week. and my sidekick, bill schulz. and his mustache once hit a homerun in