care. senate democrats are expected to that take out and kick it back to the house and we are back to where we started. as that drama plays out. president obama is pitching the health care law to young people who are playing a crucial role in funding the entire thing. nsome are afraid of the government shutdown if they can't shut down the law. and others threatened an economic shut down by refusing to pay america's bills if they can't delay the law. that's not going to happen as long as i am president. >> talk about it. cries stierwall. host of fox news.com. hello, chris. another speech. >> i thought the election was over. i remember the election distinctly? >> i did. it was a year ago now, the law

is a week away from the milestone with the exchanges and yet the president hasn't swayed public opinion and in fact it is going in the wrong direction and so another speech. this is a narrowly focused problem and megaissue about the republicans and trying to block the law on general unpopularity. the reason he was giving the campaign speech on a community college campus if a county that voted for him 3- 1. he's there to encourage people to sign up. he's acting as an insurance salesman and he couldn't get the law he wanted passed and he cut a deal with insurance and drug companies and say look, i will bring you new customers. and the problem is, the customers are not showing up and the president has to get out on the campaign trail and use

political chops to get supporters to seen up or the law will get womph ered jawed. >> what are the odds that it gets through the senate and obama care is stripped out and goes back to the house. what are you hearing about the possibility of a short- term funding measure from the house and doing as ted cruz and republicans in the senate doing piecemeal parts and fund the military and send that part. and fund the education and send it to the senate one by one? >> we are not very omnibus these days, the longest things funding through november. and so omnibus it is not. we are talking about on the 16th of october, the federal government and the obama administration says that the

debt ceiling must be raised or fill in the blank depending on your political persituation. the president calls it default and the republicans call it partial shut down of the government will not borrow the billions it needs. and the discussion takeingly place with house republicans, if they can brimming the gap to get to midoctober. the next cliff is on october. and the government has to shut down if there is no continuing resolution. and if the republicans can kick that until the middle of october and get a couple of weeks on there. they will have more leverage andel that have the debt ceiling in play and the continuing resolution and that's what the house respect leaders are trying to work up now and get back the time they lost this week. >> the white house said there is no negotiation on the debt ceiling. it is not going to be discussed. >> i don't know what you nsd florida. in west vinge virj, we say that

is stuff people say. we didn't always say stuff. but you know what i mean. they will not negotiate until they negotiate. and they held that time each time they negotiated the debt ceiling. he will not want to be knolling on down. the president refuses to discuss the matter and have the government shutdown. he will not do. it >> over the last few dpas, a lot of new things about the health care system and roll out and things that are not ready and exchanges that will not be ready and premiums higher than expected in spots and out of pocket pay for people than expected. there is a lot of things that are not positive as relates to the health care law. is the feeling let the law hurt itself. let these things play out and let the public become less

enam enamored. and versus taking a chance of shutting down the government over it and overplaying their hand. >> the republicans are on a high wire right now and there is danger all around them. and the path to success interestingly if they only get part of what they want. ted cruz for example and the speech, 21 hour marathon talk. it told americans in no uncertain terms that the republicans are against the health care law and as public perceptions get worse and more complications come up in the months to come, that is helpful to the republicans and as ra nd said republicans how to stop it up to a point. >> $67 million in irs funding aimed at implementing and

enforcing obama care is missing. that doesn't inspire confidence. >> the irs hasn't been in the confidence inspiration business for a long time. there are problems in having the agency that is scandalized. these are monies that are supposed to help. and they are not there. and where did the money go? who got it and what was it spent on? it is unclear and if they don't have good accountants in the irs, where would they? >> they are the number crunchers. it is not our speciality but it is theirs. chris thank you for sharing it with us. >> and all of the fights over obama care and debt ceiling and government shutdown and all of. it go to fox news first. and sign up for our daily fox first note and all you have to

do is enter the e-mail and click on the sign up button and it is done. fox news.com/foxnewsfirst. >> the treasury secretary jack l. ew is issuing a stern warning to congress saying that the u.s. has a few weeks before it rups out of money to borrow. if the government is unable to pay its bills. it is catastrophic. we hear it is a dead line on october 17th to avoid the negativity on financial markets and credit rating. >> new light in the financial situation in detroit leading up to the massive bankruptcy. the motor city wrapped up. and bonus payout to retired and payments to the families following the death of workers

not yet qualified for their pep pension. we are getting new information and possible violation of sanctions in iran a contractor shipping through the country for a project. jennifer griffin is live to tell us the details. >> hi, shannon, the treasury department and pentagon are investigating whether a defense contractor that won a 8 billion contract to provide food and water in afghanistan may have shipped materials through iran. fox news obtaped internal company e-mails and shipping manifest that showed they were knowingly shipping through iran using the port. u.s. citizens and companies are not supposed to use the port because it is run by the iranian revolutionary guard. and the following e-mail was

written from a subcontractor to the brother of the chief executive officer a year ago. i just checked with my office in iran, we are paying 2200 or 2,300 usd to all transportation companies there to move the contain ares out to kabul that is the same rate we are charging you. that is an iranian border crossing. an ham executives alerted the treasury when the reporters asked questions about the iranian route. they are seeking clarification from the contractor and treasury about whether sanctioned laws were broken and they may have chosen the route because the border crossing in pakistan was clesed and the northern route through central asia was too expensive. they were able to bid on

supplying the troops. we received a statement from the executives who say they are investigationing this. and all or some of which may have been eligible for transshipment and no time did an ham acquire goods in and from iran, jennifer? >> thank you. >> and growing concerns about the president's approval rating and new polls suggest what looks like a second term slump could be something more and super storm sandy may have decimated parts of the jersey shore. why they had to force resident to prepare for the next round of extreme weather. >> and fox and a major drop in drone strikes. now may not be the best time given the attacks and threats that we are seeing overseas.

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>> a update to the story of the plane slamming in a parking lot in a chase bank. we learned that the pilot died as a result of his injuries. his wife was dead on the scene in cook county, illinois when the crash happen. he was trying to land in a local airport when he clipped a tree and light pole and several cars and the plane came to rest and burst in flames. the pilot was on fire himself when they found him near the wreckage. he was pronounced dead this morning. the faa is investigating the crash. >> fox news and big changes for

the american counter strategy. the president announced a major policy shift back in may. it is a reaction to protest in u.s. policies and not a proactive policy on behalf of the administration. and new terrorist attacks and there are serious questions of whether now is the time to limit the military strategies. lieutenant colonel north is with us today. >> shannon, great to be with you. there is no doubt that the strikes have dropped and radical terrorist attacks are increased. let's keep it general. first of all. and it is called by the colleagues in the media is less than 600. and the number of armed mq

drones and hellfire missile is less than 300 and there is a limited number of trained operators and communication's hubs and secower channels and in iraq is no longer available for americans to launch these. it is not just drone strikes. we have cut back on counter terrorism operations. last year we were in somalia with kenyan and uganda units and drove al shabab out of moga dishu. >> special deployments are cut since last year. the number of u.s. vessels in the mediterranean and indian ocean and persian gulf are cut back. and this will make new. dea fast units and support teams that operate in the u.s. military special operations units to attack the heart of

terrorist organization is disbanded by the justice department. that does not leave us in great shape, shannon. >> speaking of the justice department. eric holder said we have degraded the core of al-qaeda, we are seeing random offshoots not at the core. and other cores maybe more independent and the way we are proceeding as an administration is working. >> to say you degraded the core of al-qaeda is one tank on part of the enemy battlefield. but the fact is, we are seeing an administration that doesn't get it in terms the enemy. the president said in tthe un w need to step back in perpetual war footing. we didn't start the war.

the islamist did. americans allies are dying in the hands of the islamic terrorist like in the philippines that is experiencing an upshoot in terrorism and we are not even covering it. >> i want to refer to comments from congressman mike rodgers who heads up the house intelligence committee. he is concerned about the changes. this is no time to retreat, is that how you view it? >> absolutely, correct. the idea that somehow by being nicer, we are going to step back from a war footing means we are not going to defend ourselves. and with this kind of operation requires taking up the defensive and when you give up grouped like in iraq it makes it far more difficult to make sure

america's enemies don't get a foot hold. >> it is interesting developments. and we'll see as we continue to see the threats around the globe. colonel north good to see you. >> and a new controversy over imminent domain has beach storms destroyed by super storm sandy and the families and victims of a kenyan mall say good bye, a global hunt is under way for a fugitive that played a role in the massacre. and the incredible story of two brothers lost at sea clinging to a life raft and then they are rescued. >> i thought we were going to do i and both are going to leave us. >> you got to be kidding, really, this is the way it is going to end? no blanking way.

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and governor christie signed an order to make it easier to build protective dunes. and rick is looking into it and tell us about a spot where every home was damaged or destroyed by the storm completely. >> rick? >> shannon, the executive order basically clears away the way for the duneto begin building. they may have to declare imminent domain to seize the beach. the state is working with the arm -- army corps of engineers and it will stretch from here 75 feet across the now dun eh.

and the beach owners have signed off on this and five of them refused. . >> they are looking like many times in the jersey shore. they feel strongly about the values and the protection that it will offer not only for the owners. >> and their argument is that their homes will not be as valuable with the beach andel that lose their views and the government should pay them hundreds of thousands each for what they are giving up. >> it is on their private property and losing property and some cases a significant amount of it and that changes the value of what they have and they want to be compensated and the constitution provides they would be compensated. >> a similar case was settled with another couple. the jury awarded "3 strikes and

you're out" 75,000. and the judge gave them a $1 settlement and saying that the value of the dun e was more than the views they are losing. >> rick, thank you very much. >> and troubling now numbers for the president as the approval rating hit a two year low. a second term slump and our panel will debate and a fugitive suspected of playing a role in the deadly massacre. the victims will remember that horrific day. >> before i could take in what was happening, i saw the second gun men pointing the rifle at me. and it was a moment, i don't know what exactly the sequence. i must have let out a cry. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here!

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developing at this hour an international manhupt for the so- called white wid oechlt the british fugitive who is suspected of playing a role in the massacre in the nairobi mall in kenia. they are looking for answers. chief intelligence officers join us live with more. hello. >> thank you, shannon and on the

white widow. the radicalized british international was using a fraud passport february 27th which is the last time they have a record of her travel and she is wanted in connection for the mall attack in question. >> she has not communicated with us. i don't know where the story has suddenly taken life. >> and the attorney general taking questions in washington in an unrelated news conference. eric holder stated there is no evidence that americans were involved. a law enforcement service confirming to fox news and the fbi critical response group cering is deployed to kenia.

and it is like a mobile field office for the fbi and pulling agents from the washington d.c. and joint terrorism task force in new york city. they have the ability to operate independently and has response time to run prints to matches to u.s. citizens and we are told that that is a priority. in the administration statements and the previous days about the kenyan mall attack. a shift in the description and a wrecknition that the affiliates are on the rise. and dealing with a different threat environment. i would not say we have specific credible evidence that al shabab is planning to do anything in the united states. and i am not sure they have the capacity and does not mean that they would take the threat and we are taking it as a serious one. >> and telling reporters that he

is receiving a daily briefing, sometimes a twice a day briefing on the status of the investigation in kenya. and to be clear when they say no evidence that americans are involved. they don't have evidence from inside of the mall and getting the first day together inside, shannon. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> growing concerns for the president's second term and president obama's approval rating sinking to a two- year poll. the times poll she 47 approve of the president's performance and 49 percent disapprove entirely. and the republican is wary over obama care. people are unhappy cross the board on a number of topics and concerns that we could see more than a second term slump. president and founder of ind. and clinton adviser and.

we'll good to see you both. >> hi, shannon. >> is it just something we see in a second term or does the president need to get serious about turning the numbers around. >> he needs to get serious about the numbers. the white house saw inkling back in the summer and july which is why he started to talk about the economy more. if the economy continues to do well, and if the a ca roll out is successful and things in the middle east get better and the republicans act nutty as they have in the last couple of weeks, you could see things getting better. but it will require him to goff other than well. >> the republicans acting nutty because of the polls they are seeing that approval or any kind of appreciation of the health care law is going down. when you are asked what is your

opinion of obama care. unfavorable now at 60 percent and favorable at 34 percent. that is a hard ship to right if you are turning around public perception. i think the numbers are great news for republicans so long as they don't blow it like shutting down the government which they are talking about doing. you cited the numbers. foreign policy only 40 percent. and economy 41 percent approval and obama care 32 percent approval. that is after years of trying to sell it to the american people and americans are not buying and the republicans are in a strong position if they handle it right to use the popular disconinent over obama care to win the midterm elections. and while a majority of the americans oppose obama care,

only 27 percent of the americans want to shut down the government over it. it is alienating the independents and others who republicans need in order to cope the house and take back the senate and so they have the power to stop obama care. >> for a lot of folks. it is who cares about me. republicans or president? approval ratings for congress is not good. and other poll about president obama, do you think he cares about people like you? only 30 percent of the people think he cares about me. simon, he's always had good personal poling even when folks didn't go with him on the issues. >> keep in mind, the poll comes right after the struggle that he had to manage the syria effort which didn't go well for him. and i think it reenforced the

notion that interest were the struggle of every day people. you will see them talking about the economy and talking about health care and immigration reform and reconnect with the american people and show his main priority. he was spending too much time on syria and not going particularly well. >> we will talk about that. we have syria in the polling as well and other notes. we start with the job approval ratings on specific issues. economy, 41 percent approve and 54 percent disapprove and say he's not getting it right. and syria, he's down 15 points and domestically and intlly, mark, folks don't feel like inspired and don't have confident in what he's doing. >> not at all. what simon is recommending that the president do the pivot to jobs. how many times have we heard.

it it is comical. he announced it before he had the deal with russia and syria you are seeing not too much time on syria, he bungled syria. that was a debacle of american leadership and he's getting punishmented for that and five years in the economy, it is a disaster. and you know, again, this is great news for republicans. but republicans tend to be their own worst enemy. and bee are spending time talking about shutting down the government and makes the republicans like when people are upset with obama and we are not presenting an alternative that they find palatable. we have to have a strategy that is smarter. we need to do what putin did in cornering in obama. take it off the government

shutdown and where we have no leverage and put it on the debt limit where he has have to comprograms. table it for a year and then offer to the american people. all of the shut down makes the republicans look like unreasonable ones. >> and the debt ceiling, with chris, that is only a couple of weeks away. they want to see if there is an inkress in the debt ceiling which there will have to be if we pay our bills. and then you push into the issue of default, only seven in ten actually prefer to do something they don't agree with. it doesn't have to be perfect and they rather have that than shutting down the government. that is good news for the democrats, the president will not negotiate on the debt ceiling. >> the truth is, the debt ceiling is much more dangerous

to the united states than shutting down the government for a couple of days. and the republicans were successful in getting the democrats to compromise. they will not compromise on the debt ceiling and i think that democrats feel like, mark, we'll see how we do here. i think the new agenda pushed forward by boehner and his team and kitchen sink of republican agenda items that don't poll well and rejected by the senate and none solved the core problem about the budget. we have to have a budget resolved and this looks political and it is it a huge mistake by the republicans and we'll see. >> we got to leave it there. i am 0, simon and mark. thank you very much. maybe we'll get back to talk about it on october 17th. that is the deadline. thank you both. >> more than 300 companies are

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social media and websites. is that possible considering repost and real world obstacles. we'll bring in our panel. >> there is all kinds of things about this law that takes affect in january 15th. the thrust is protecting minors on line and allow them to go where they posted an inappropriate picture and something to keep them from get nothing college or a good job. that web site has to take it down. is it truly erased or disappeared. >> great point. there are third party postings. it is oirth reposting or taking a screen shot and forwarded to others. it is a web of individuals that have embarrassing photos and pictures and postings and they will resurface against in

another form. in a lot of the colleges and one of the reasons that governor brown will do. they are looking dope in the social media records of their potential student and finding them and making admission consideration based on what they are post nothing the past. he is trying to do that. >> there are websites that let people takedown their postings. do you think it takes away a little bit of the sting and responsibility of people thinking twois of posting and they know there is a back up plan and maybe i can get rid of this after the fact. >> in life we can't avoid the fact that actions have consequences. and this law is socially irresponsible and not enforceable and does not promote self responsibility of teenagers at all. if you tell anyone under 18 that

you can post whatever you want and don't think about it and you can erase it later. and the eraser law is not going to promote any responsibility at all. and shannon i don't know how anyone in the world can determine what is potentially damaging. that is the post. that can open up a big vacouple of figuring out whether it is damaging and there might be lawsuits that flow from that. and it is not going to work. >> and just about anything you put out there in the web these days and in the interweb offend somebody. and mereddies. one of my questions is how dow enforce this? the internet goes far beyond the state lines and international boundaries. how in the world is it enforced in california? >> we do this on behalf of our clients all of the time. and the first thing to do to get a lawyer to send a letter and

threatening where the postings occur and cease and desist. and that's what brian alluded to. there is a huge potential for lawsuits in order to enforce the particular law. it will clog up the courts over and over. and because of the ambiguity in the law. what is potential damages? we all have different enterpitations of what it could be. and the web masters that host these. talk about the one that our firm represents. they have to make discretionary decision as well. >> and brian, once it is out there, why couldn't adults come forward and push for changes for them and legal action for themselves, too. yeah, i posted it. but i was drunk@time. why can't i get it taken down? >> i think you are right

shannon; another point to make, it is like a form of censorship. there is another part of the law that is important for viewers to know about. the law is trying to stop advertisers from aiming at minors and that is a part of the law to be struck down. it violates free speech. how dow determine if a marketing campaign on facebook and twitter is targeted or aimed at teenagers? i think at teen-agers. again, i think this law in all respects is flawed and it will be deemed unconstitutional. >> all of us should think about thinks twice. mercedes and brian, thank you both very much. >> thank you shannon. >> a new push to free a former

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two brothers stranded add sea when their fishing boat sank now speaking out about their near death experience. they were eight miles off the

coast of new jersey when rough waves flipped their boat. the brothers clung to their life preservers until help finally arrives. >> i kept getting slammed into the boat. >> i love my brother you don't tell him all the time. but i love the guy. we got a second chance. >> the brothers are now in the process of personally thanking everybody who helped in that rescue effort. the ailing father of a former u.s. marine jailed in iran now pleading to the country in a emotional letter. chris gallagher is live in the west coast newsroom with the case. >> reporter: he has high hopes that the iranian president read the letter. it was hand delivered by an islamic religious leader from

his home town that has a personal relationship with the leader. in the letter he writes in part, i long more than ever to see amir's face i'm now very sick with a brain tumor. i ask that you let me see him one more time so that he may lead my family while i'm gone. he went to iran back in 2011 to visit his bragrandmothers. he was arrested and charges with being a spy for the cia. iran claims that he confessed in a videotape. in a tape that was smuggled out of the prison that his confession was coerces. in his letter to the president his father says again, amir is a

very good man han honorable man he is not a spy i can assure you of that. he has made comments leading many to believe that he is a moderate willing to improve relations to the u.s. before he came to the general assembly, iran did release some 80 political prisoners. >> today marks one year since the pastor saeed was being held in the prison as well. a mother speaks out on the release on her daughter's rapist. we'll tell you what she said about the teacher who spent just 30 days behind bars for that crime. and an 8-year-old boy saved people from a fast moving fire. we'll tell you about their come back and how that managed

to win it all at the very last minute.

this is a fox news alert. yet another critical deadline approaching. obamacare hanging in the balance. right now the senate is debating a continuing resolution this is to keep the lights on in washington past monday. right now launching another effort to defund obamacare. senate majority leader read is not having any of it. >> a clean debt ceiling that is the path forward. there is no need for conversations we have spoken

loudly and clearly and we have supported the president of the united states and that is good. >> hello mike. >> hi shannon, forgive me it has been one of those days. interesting times here on the hill where you have got house lawmakers saying where they want significant items in return for wanting to fund the government to borrow the debt ceiling for example they are going to push for a one-year delay of obamacare. house speaker saying what they want to do. >> on the debt limit we are going to tie important spending cuts and pro growth reforms to a increase. the president says i'm not going to negotiate. the president i'm sorry it doesn't work that way. we are not going to accept a new

normal of a weak economy, and no ñ wages. >> as for the tippincontinuing resolution, the house is in wait and see mode to see what the democrats are able to pass. >> with the gop focus on defunding, what are democrats saying about that? i can't imagine that any of them are going to get onboard with that? >> west virginia democrat made some news today when he said he would support government spending bill that includes delaying obama care. others saying no no no when it comes to delaying the law. >> let's be clear. any attachment that demufunds o

delays the affordable care act will be vetoed by the president. you can huff, and puff but you cannot blow the affordable care act away. >> senate republican leadership is going after red state democrats to see if they want to continue funding obamacare or if they are ready to pull the plug. every time i want to read through this, i want to figure out what is going on, on the hill. thank you for keeping it straight. there is a look at the impact of the last government shutdown. the centers of disease control call for the national institute of health were not answered. 300 park site se eextsites were. services for war veterans were

cut back ranging from health and welfa welfare. secretary of state, john kerry, scheduled to meet today with other highest level direct contact with the two countries. >> hello shannon. you know the legacy of our diplomates blindfolded and handcuffs during the take over. that legacy has stained and o r overshadowed it in all of that time. it could be broken by a handshake. a sha a handshake between the two and

they hope that it is the first step between a new dialogue between terhan. even though it is continuing to violate six resolutions. most recently un weapons inspectors found that it is producing uranium. they do not want a nuclear bomb he again took to the un podium this morning to speak out against nuclear weapons. >> the world has waited too long for nuclear disarmament. the indefinite possession of nuclear weapons cannot be tolerated nor can their complete elimination be further delayed. >> and the testing of iran's

sincerity could come quickly. the security council demanding that they close underground facilities and cooperate fully. they want those crippling sanctions dropped and the security councils to the program and want to continue enrichment for uranium solely for the purpose of electricity. largely symbolic and wewepect i to be brief. next month they are expected to meet with representatives of the security council. it will now begin and open with iran's nuclear program. >> thank you very much. >> and we'll have more on this and a possible shift in us policy when i talk to ambassador john bolten coming up in just a

few minutes. brand new information from montana where a former high school teacher was just released from prison after serving a 30 day sentence for raping a 14 year old student and that girl later committed suicidsuicide. >> the victim's mother says that the former teacher is scathing clear of justice after serving such a short sentence. sadly the high school student committed suicide in 2010 before the former high school teacher went to trial after admitting he raped charice moralúl

sentence. family members and supporters were outraged and created a pe ti petition for the judge to step down. waters asked if he feels like 30 days in prison is an appropriate sentence. the judge replies 15 years suspended and as jessie goes into the garage with him he is seen pushing him back. dramatic ambush video there. in the meantime, prosecutors are seeking an appeal. attorney ageneral issued this statement to fox news a short while ago.

prosecutors entered and agreement which required ramble to complete a sex offender treatment program. when he failed to do so, they asked that he would be sentenced for up to 20 years. we'll continue to bring you the latest here in the newsroom. >> day as way from a major obamacare milestone. hundreds of employers like the white castle food chain saying that they are being forced to cut worker's hours and cut jobs. we'll debate it. >> plus a grewsome discovery in the wreckage of the concokorcon.

national security analyst expressing concerns before a meeting of secretary of state and iran's top diplomates. could this be a change in u.s. policy? >> i do believe if we can resolve the issue of iran's nuclear policy, that can be a step toward a long road.

divers spotting human remains near the wreckage of the cruise liner. but the bodies of an indian waiter and an italian passenger

were never recovered. officials say they were found in the central part of the ship where both were last seen. that captain of the ship was facing manslaughter charges. serious concerns now looming. secretary of state jen kerry sat for a face-to-face meeting at the un. the highest level meeting between the two in years. decades the elephant in the room. analysts say the white house may be considering white house policy. let's talk about it. ambassador good to see you today. i wanted to bring up a couple of things. the president's remarks where he said the u.s. respects the right of the american people is that a

shift of a change? >> the bush administration said it too but it was a mistake for both administrations. irnlg r iran has been violating the treaty for decades. yet it has been working for 20 years to get a nuclear weapons capability. you can't violate the program and claim rights under another prart of the treaty. i don't think they can be trusted with nuclear technology. it would take a long cold period with iran before i would give them anything nuclear. >> they have been having time on their side. >> right. there is no doubt that the activities they have undertaken and i could give you a long list of them. and i could say how to fabri

kate are consistent with the nuclear weapons program. as we look at secretary kerry's meeting this afternoon. it has costs as well as benefits. if there were no costs to diploma diplomacy, the costs that we see with it, the benefit is time. time is important, it allows them to overcome scientific obstacles and they are going to play for relief of the sanctions. i'm afraid we are going to give them to them. they are railing against the sanctions calling them in humane and violent. he has talked about, i believe this may have been the foreign minister there. step by step dealings, what is that all about. this is a very important point.

it is sometimes called sequencing. when you hear that, hold on to your wallet. it means we are about to give up. as a measure of good faith, we will reduce the economic sanctions and we'll say and we expect serious concessions by the iranians on the nuclear program. and then those concessions won't be forth coming. we won't get what we want and they know that once you start to roll them back, it is very hard to turn back in the other direction. of course they want relief? why wouldn't they? they have affected life in iran. if they can make it sound like a human rights violation, he might be ready to do it again.

>> why are we continuing to play this game? what are our other options at this point? >> i don't think the government is going to be negotiated out of this game. he'd like to find a diplomatic success quote unquote i'm worried that we will enter into a bad deal with iran but we'll call it a success and it will be to legitimize iran's nuclear weapons program and it means it is a question of time when iran gets that nuclear weapon. our ally, israel sits by. >> more children than ever getting flu shots. public health experts are urging families to do a better job. plus a look at school sports

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vindividuals shoulding able to start signing up october 1st. president saying folks may be surpri surprised. >> 95% of uninsured americans will see their premiums cost

less than was expected. and many families including more than 2/3 of all young adults are going to be eligible for tax credits that bring the costs down further. >> jim engle is in washington with the facts now. >> hello shannon. premiums are only a small piece of this puzzle. insisting it will do what the president just pledged. listen. >> the affordable care act will deliver on its promise to make insurance more affordable for americans. >> you can go through that hhs report and not answer the most important question will my insurance rates go up in 2014. >> they cherry picked the data to highlight the pact that people of low income will benefit under the law and people of middle income will not and

they didn't talk about that. >> and now what it calls essential benefits a long list of things that must be covered and found that for people of median income, costs will soar as much as 99% of men and 55% for women. listen. even if the average american gets a partial subsidy won't be enough to overcome the dramatic increase in the cost of insurance that obamacare improses on the market. >> one of the factters that the administration does not talk about is deductibles and doe pays. even those in the bronze plan. >> if you are in a bronze plan the premiums are going to be relatively low. in some cases people won't pay

premiums as all. and deductibles will be over $5,500. >> so a person with that plan may only pay $100 a month in premiums but the deductible will add over $500 a month but that doesn't include the co pay. >> we had to pass it to find out what was in it jim, thank you. >> you are welcome. all right even more fall out for obamacare as companies say it is forcing them to change the way that they do business. so far 300 employs say they are cutting back jobs because of the health care law. the ceo of white castle saying he expects the law to raise

costs for them. >> since the affordable care act became law more than 90% of the gain in employment has been in full time positions. that is according to the bauer row of labor and statistics. and according to analysis there is no evidence that employers are shifting employees to just below 30 hours a week. >> welcome to you both. >> good to see you. >> all right basil what does the white house do with this information? people are keeping track of this online that is significant. but i don't know if they need to do it. we saw the ceo of starbuck's say we are not going to take this step. this is a good bill and there is no need to make these changes.

there are businesses that don't need to take these steps and i'm not sure why they have decided to do exactly that. but it has become an alarmist position they have taken. most of the businesses are going to buy into the plan and it will be successful as a result of that. >> we know how it works here in the good old usa. if they can't afford it, they have shareholders to answer to. small businesses have families and companies to keep going. do you think we will see more? or is this going to level off. >> no way. we have 300 companies already and they are going to part-time job s and now we are going to have to get the paper out and baby sitting and work with fast food. this is a job killer and it is messing up the economy and i think we are going to have to delay, delay, delay until it

goes away. it is just not working. >> some of this stuff is not ready for prime time. we hear the dc exchange reportedly today is not going to be ready. there are problems with this. do you think there is chance that the white house goes to the individual mandate that kicks in next year and says we want to keep this law but we are going to go along with the individual mandate? >> i do agree that there have been glitches and the president has said, that it is a big bill and a complex bill and going to take time to roll things out. i would give them the benefit of the doubt and let the adm administration do that. i'm confident that there would be a big delay on that mandate. >> i think we have something jay

carney said something about this whole fight over health care. >> what he will not do is engage in an attempt by republicans to export from him what they could not get at the ballot box or at the supreme court of the united states and offer as an alternative to getting what they want through exportion tanking the economy and crushing the middle class. >> extortion is a criminal activity. pretty serious. so wonderful. cea these businesses don't know what they are talking about. the government getting in voxvo in business. the economy has been bad and people don't want it to show. people hate obamacare. they don't want it. they are telling representatives

including those like joe mansion i'm for the delay. he is from west virginia. he is going to have trouble. are we getting close and the american people are not happy. >> the polling has shown increasing negatives and dr dropping positives. >> that is across the board. my thing is if you don't like the bill then legislate. do your job. >> there have been a number of them. you hear the staff that they voted 40 times to default the whole thing. but 7 or 8 of them have gotten to the desk and he has signed them. >> that is right. and there are a couple of problems with this bill. >> a couple? >> one, it's fact that the president needs the younger generation to buy in. if he doesn't do that you will see the costs go up.

a lot of the businesses like ibm are saying they are pushing the retirees into this exchange. i would curious to see what impact that has. >> young people are getting hit. 97% of young women. so i mean the young people are getting hit. and the working class support are getting hit. >> this is a bill that is designed to get people on. and by and large it does accomplish that. >> we constantly harp on this, but the young people that are healthy and aren't going to bleed on this, the average young person will pay in and not pay out as much. but when the fee is $90 or $95, when they know i'm probably not going to get sick, i'll deal with that, how do you convince them and get them onboard. >> there aren't any jobs. and that is not good.

the job situation is very bad right now and obamacare is making it worse and worse. >> i agree there is sort of that moral hazard there. they need insurance but thu are not going to do it if they find that the cost is prohibitive. you get to be 40 your body start to break down. >> we are not there yet. >> i didn't ask. >> you would be more inclined to get the health insurance. having said that, i think there are young people that once they come off their parent's plan at 26 they will be compelled to become bart part of the plan. >> it is very high unaffordable and the polling shows that americans aren't happy. and i think that the tip of

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youth sports triggering a new debate. the latest examples include bans on trash talking and trophies

for everybody. now, when they are told that no one is allowed to lose and no one is allowed to win too big. jeffy gardier is a clinical psychologist and welcome to all of you. >> stacey, you said you have a child right now who is in this phase of treiv trophies for everything. and for absolutely doing nothing she gets medals. she does not understand why. they understand that they are getting these accolades for doing nothing. they don't get to grow and build characters and backbone. they are not actually doing anything. >> we hear studies that say kids under perform. everybody is going to be on the same level playing field why should they go the extra mile if

their effort is not rewarded in a real tangible way? >> we give positive reinforcements when you perform or respond in a way that we want you to. if you don't earn it and you just keep getting the reinfor reinforcements then you upset. >> you have worked in the democratic settide academic setting in schools. schools are worried. if my kid doesn't make the team i'm going to get schooled. >> they are worried about parents that said everyone got an award but my kid. well your kid finished last. >> unless you get an award that

said you came in last. >> and no one wants that. >> we are handicapping our children by not letting them experience failure and defeat. >> what is the life lesson? >> there is something to be learned by disappointment. they are not learning what they are good at and what they are bad at. i wasn't good as basketball and i was good at track and field. i had to learn that. sometimes it creates self awareness. maybe i'll work harder at this. but i might not be number one and that is okay. >> the best lessons come from failure. >> all of us have gone to a job interview and applied to a school and we haven't gotten in. when kids are getting used to yes yes yes for everything. how do they feel like a failure? how does that affect them when

they don't have the coping skills? >> we have seen the studies when a person does not get a job but they didn't earn it to begin with. a lot of people young people become spoiled and the parents make it worse. we have done the story here where the parents go in and say why didn't my kid get this job. you have to give my kid this job and you are talking about someone who is 35 we'res old. >> they went them out of the basement. >> there was a book called "the blessing of a skinned knee reque reque >> you know, so there must be a trophy lobby out there.

>> so what about the parents on the our side that go crazy at games they are pushing the kids they get upset and get in fights with other parents. if you level the playing field does that take the crazy news out of it? >> it is about going out there and winning. when my dad was on the sidelines and i was running track. you are there. you are there to succeed. the notion of competition is interesting. this whole country was built on competition. getting out there and doing the best you can do. you are not the same kinds of members of society. something should be said about the over or mismatch. you have some of the mercy rules in sports.

that should not be aimed at the kids. and have them learn and level it a little bit more. >> i'm going to put you all down. their trophies are waiting for you. >> trophies for all of you. a stunning victory. for team usa, american sailors celebrating a victory they pulled off again all odds. details straight ahead. of providing a free world-class education for anyone, anywhere. if you look at a khan academy video, they cover everything from basic arithmetic to calculus, trigonometry, finance. you can really just get what you need at your own pace. and so, bank of america came and reached out to us and said, "we are really interested in making sure that everyone really understands personal finance."

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this is fox news alert. a major headline just crossing. fox news confirmed that major league baseball commissioner bud

selig will formally announce he is stepping down after the 2014 season. here's more details. jim, was this unexpected? tell us more. >> no, it's not unexpected. commissioner selig said he would leave after the 2014 season. he signed several extensions, and his last one he said it would be his final season. as of january 2015 he will step aside. he will have been in the position for 23 years so he will complete one more full season. he came on in 1992, replacing fay vincent. station there until 1998 when it became official. he has presided over mark grand jury, $1.2 million in revenue, now $9.2 billion so it's been tremendous growth. also seen the all-star game make a difference now in the world series. he ordered that so that the home

team gets the homefield advantage. interleague play in 2002. and steroid era and that will major blemish of his record because of everything that happened barry bonds and sammy sosa and ryan braun and alex rodriguez. so he has left an indelible mark on the game, some negative, but a lot of positive. >> he has been proud to note in recent weeks and months that there's been a crackdown on drugs in baseball. do you think he has done enough to overcome the blemishes you mentioned? >> well, the cheaters are always going to be ahead of the system, and he is proud to say he implemented the toughest system in all of professional sports. he has had major battles with the players union, going bag to the start of his commissionership, they were

battling the union, and in 1994 the world series got canceled. the only time that happened. and a lot of this has been over the drug issues, and they finally both got on the same page, trying to clean up the game, but it's hard to assess because we don't know where we are because the people who are cheating we didn't expect to find them cheating, and they still are. is that the commissioner's fault? i don't think that baseball is at fault as much as they were earlier on in his era because they cracked down on it, and he wants to clean it up. but it was permissible for such a long time, that will be the same. >> jim, let's move from baseball. america pastime, to something else americans should be happy about. team oracle, coming up with a really big victory at the last minute. looks like a lot of fun. >> well, they sure did. how improbable was this. they were penalized minus two before they started for an infraction on their boat, and they came back, they had to win

11 races. usually you only have to win nine, but because of the penalty. they were down eight to one and behind on september 20th. looked like the cup would go to the can kiwis, new zealand, but because the kiwi did not finnish the time allotted, they didn't win. and the americans had eight victories, and larry ellis southern, who has poured hundreds of millions of dollars in this, and he will have a right to defend and pick the boats and these boats they used, the technology was incredible. it was silicon valley on the water. they used these cat a -- catamaran insaid of the moan ohulls so america retains the cup, even though most members of the team were from extra. the american team, team oracle, amazing comeback. one that will be one of the greatest comebacks of all time.

>> good to see you. we'll be right back.

>> thanks for watching. "studio b" with trace gallagher in for shep starts now. >> trace: this is "studio b." showdown on capitol hill. republicans and democrats today digging new trenches in the bat over obamacare and the government showdown now hangs in the balance. attorney general eric holder, speaking out on the attack in kenya and the likelihood of those terrorist trying something like that here. a packed airliner on snooze control. the frightening new report about two pilots who were both asleep in the cockpit at the same time. that's all ahead, unless breaking news changes everything on "studio b." >> but first from fox at 3:00, only five days left until the government shuts down