tomorrow, senator ted cruz, the leader of the charge to defund obama care, joins america's news headquarters. watch that at 1:00 p.m. eastern. don't miss fox news sunday. kevin mccarthy along with senator mike lee. that's going to do it for me. hi, everybody, great to have you here. this is a brand-new hour inside america's news headquarters and new headquarters for us. >> we're glad that we're here. i'm kelly wright. topping the news this hour, the sun, let's take a look at it, tried to break through some ominous dark clouds over capitol hill. as house members there are meeting behind closed doors this very moment, struggling with how to prevent a government shutdown. but could a battle to defund obama care derail everything? we're live on capitol hill. >> they are battling it out. we also have some shocking new details.

there's a deadly wildfire in arizona. it's already killed 19 brave firefighters. could this terrible tragedy have been prevented? what the official investigation just uncovered. >> and for the first time ever, scientists say they are developing a flu shot that can help guard against every form of the flu. when might it become available to everyone? a member of our fox news team weighs in. folks, we're really down to the wire as we begin with the budget somehowdown in our nation's capitol hill. only three days until the government completely runs out of money. house members are meeting in a rare weekend session today. and they're considering a bill which was passed by the senate that actually funds both the government and obama care. chief congressional correspondent joins us.

it seems like the republicans in the house were willing to make compromises but the senate didn't buy it. >> reporter: there hasn't been a lot of compromise between the house and senate at all and that's why we're playing this legislative ping pong match with the bill to fund the government and to not fund obama care. the house has it today and they're beginning to work somewhat more methodically. as we seepeak, there are member both filing in and out of what is a meeting about an hour long with the republican leadership where they've sort of charted out a course here. they now are in the process put together what's referred to as regulative martial law, allowing the house rules committee to get the preparations on a new vote for another measure to keep the government open and delay obama care today. normally it's a two-day process. they're speeding things ralong n order to make this work. democrats continue to argue that republicans are being unreasonable. here's a little sampling.

watch. >> i think the american people stood up pretty clear and said they don't want this. for some reason, the president and the senate keeps trying to jam it down american's throats. it's a train wreck. even his own party is calling it that now. >> stop the drama. this has become theater of the absurd. i am praying there are some grown-ups in the republican conference who will take charge and avoid an unnecessary shutdown by passing a clean cr and also by passing a clean debt ceiling bill that isn't porked up with tea party sweeteners. >> reporter: massachusetts liberal democrat jim mcgovern. what republicans are expected to do today is pretty simple. they will take the continuing resolution to keep the government open past monday at midnight and amend it to say obama care should be there aed for a year. not just the individual or business mandates but all aspects of obama care would be delayed for a year, which will bring in a whole host of additional consequences. in addition to that, a tax on

medical devices, which would bring in about $300 billion to the u.s. government, will be repealed. those two things are expected to be passed. and then the bill will be ping ponged back to the senate. the senate doesn't go to work until monday afternoon at 2:00 but they could come back earlier if members are around to do some weekend regulating. barring that, at 2:00 on mobbnd, the clock is ticking for the senate to either pass that with obama care or take away the tax revenue on medical devices or try to amend it quickly and ping pong it back to the house. there's a deadline here, monday at midnight. if they don't pass something to keep the government open and send it to the president to sign, technically there will be a shutdown beginning at that time. there have been instances in the past where a deal has been reached in principle at or around that midnight deadline and they've been able to buy a few hours back and work through the darkness of the early morning and by the time everybody has to go to work, pass something that retroactively sets the clock

back and makes it quasilegal. >> i want viewers to know that even if they can come to an agreement and send something to the president, he signs it, only funds the government until mid-november. so if it comes back to this again at that point, can the issue of obama care and its funding be brought up again? >> oh, sure, but here's the important point. the house bill is actually going to fund the government through december. which is a difference because the senate only wanted mid-november. they can't even agree on when they're going to kick the can down the road. if they should go a month down the road or two months down the road. the disagreements have gone way past anything that's reasonable. there are legitimate complaints on both sides. republicans have legitimate objections about obama care. but the process they're in, racing against the clock, with all this legislative horse trading behind closed doors, makes them both look petty and immature. both sides realize there's great

political risk in this. there are a fiew things that ar coming up. the registration periods for obama care are supposed to start at the beginning of the month. they believe that now is their chance. if they don't take it now, they may not have an opportunity. >> i believe the president said that will happen regardless. great reporting. thanks so much, carl, keep us posted today. lawmakers may still be duking it out on obama care and as carl just talked about, petty and immature on both side. that's not stopping a cornerstone of the law from going into effect on tuesday. that's when health insurance exchanges actually open for the first time ahead of the launch of both. the president and his critics are taking to the air waves. we are live in washington with more details. >> tuesday is the day, a large part of the sweeping health care law will be under way. the president says it will give uninsured americans the chance to buy quality affordable health care coverage.

while there has been some speed bumps such as small businesses enrolling as well as the spanish language portions will now be available in the next few weeks. the president says those without health insurance can still buy it and he also criticized those on the hill who were threatening his signature piece. >> i don't know how to be more clear about this. no one gets to threaten the full faith and credit of the united states of america just to extract ideological concessions. no one gets to hurt our economy and millions of innocent people just because there are a couple of laws that you don't like. it hasn't been done in the past. we're not going to start doing it now. >> house republicans are firing back. demanding to either defund or delay the affordable care act. they argue this policy is not what americans want. according to a new fox news poll, 7 out of 10 voters are concerned about their personal health with the new law. that's about 68% of voters.

that includes 43% who say they are, quote, very concerned, and 25% who say they are, quote, somewhat concerned. conservative lawmakers and others say they're fighting for those americans. >> for me, what i have said, is that i will not vote for any continuing resolution that funds obama care. because i think obama care's a disaster. i think it's a train wreck. i think it's a nightmare. i'll note those last two terms, train wreck is what the lead author of obama care called it and nightmare is what the president of the teamsters called it. >> the administration is hoping for at least 7 million people to sign up online within the first year. benefits will be provided as early as january 1st. kelly, back to you. >> elizabeth, thanks for the report from washington. a government shutdown would have a direct impact on the nation's defense department. our jennifer griffin is live in washington with what it could mean for the soldiers we love. all our troops, in fact. jen. >> the last time the government shut down in 1995, it lasted 26

days. according to the pentagon, as many as 400 dod workers could be furloughed this time around. military service members, including those serving in afghanistan are not subject to furlough. and they would have to continue to work without pay. they would also have to pick up the slack for civilian personnel doing their jobs as well. these military personnel would receive automatic retroactive pay once an appropriation is passed. but they and their families may have trouble in the meantime. it would require an act of congress to pay those civilians subjected to furloughs. for dod civilians, it's not automatic they would get retroactive pay. other ways it would affect the defense department, death benefits for those killed in action in the war zone will not be paid until appropriations are passed. and commissaries where many military shop will be closed.

explained the impact of a potential shutdown. >> even if a lapse never occurred, the planning itself is disruptive. people are worrying right now about whether their paychecks are going to be delayed rather than focusing fully on their mission. while i can't quantify the time being spent to plan, it has or will consume a lot of senior management attention. probably thousands of hours of employee time better spent on supporting national security. >> one message that government shutdown saves money. the office of management and budget estimates the last time there was a shutdown in 1995, it cost the taxpayer about $1.4 billion, jamie. >> one thing we know about our troops, they get it done, even with less. thanks so much, jen. good to see you. a look now at some of the top stories happening around the world. a major earthquake rocks pakistan. hitting the same region in the southwest part of the country that killed nearly 400 people days earlier. no word yet on casualties.

and we're getting dramatic new video from the mall attack in kenya. it shows first responders actually rushing to help shoppers as they emerge from the complex running for their lives. and up in the sky in china, it's a bird, it's a plane, no, it's an american daredevil wearing a winged suit and flying through a narrow mountain valley at its most narrow point. the valley is only about 10 feet wide. >> because? we'll find out. >> because he can do it. the showdown to the government shutdown. it is entering a new phase. we've been telling you about that. if both sides don't agree, what's next? >> and caught on camera, an inmate escapes. wait till you hear what he tried to steal. >> plus, the challenges that many student face. how certain colleges and universities are helping students. [ tires screech ]

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right now, some information on some crime stories we're keeping an eye on. the man suspected of stabbing to death a los angeles dodgers fan has been released from jail in san francisco. prosecutors say they're gathering more evidence against michael montgomery in the death jonathan denver. also in california, a police chase companies y comes to an en anaheim. police say the man they were pursuing stabbed his wife and made off with the couple's children. in corpus christi, texas, a wild incident that was caught on tape. a man escaping from the county courthouse back in custody after trying to steal not one but two police cars. america's future depends on students getting a good and

solid education. the challenges for students, in fact, is not just about can they afford college, but can they afford not to go to college. particularly poor and minority students. colleges and universities are doing all they can do to help students to achieve their goals beyond the dream. going to college is a dream for many students. in today's economy, it can be tough. finding the financial aid to afford college. the federal government and the states have all reduced college funding. black and hispanic latino students find themselves disproportionately affected. >> let's put a squeeze on a number of our students and a squeeze on our universities. and a number of the historically black colleges have lost a significant number of students. strictly on the basis of affordability. >> he is the president of south carolina state university. an historically black college in orangeburg, south carolina. it has an enrollment of 3,400 students.

down from 4,500 a year ago. the decline, as he points out, due to funding. the decline companies at a type when deserving students need college more now than ever to compete in the global economy. >> so what we're doing is working real hard to try to find new sources of funds. we're doubling down on our institutional advancement and philanthropic possibilities, going out, meeting with alums, encouraging them to give back to the universities. we're working, putting our emphasis right now. >> finding more funding was one of several topics discussed at the white house initiative on historically black colleges and universities conference held this week in washington, d.c. each of the schools are focused on how to make sure deserving students have their chance to go to college. >> when the newsletters get sent out to ask for money, that you also talk about the issues of the day. and how, as an insurance tugs, you are engaged at the

legislative process, the policy making process. how they can, in addition to giving to the college, give back to the community and engage in those particular issues. >> the top thing is to work hard, get a good education, graduate and contribute their skills and talents to making the world better. a hands-on kind of college president who constantly encourages students to pursue their dreams because he believes in them. >> i told them to be fearless. they're going to have some dark days and dark nights. they must look those difficulties in the eye, embrace those difficulties and go forward. so that's the challenge i give to my students. i tell them that their success is my success and their success is my success so we're in it together. >> how do you strengthen the american dream for these students? >> our students are so engaged, they're so excited, they're so

enthusiastic. that's why it is our responsibility, my responsibility, to make it possible for them to achieve their dreams. >> you've got to love his energy as well as his tenacity. you know, back a long time ago, jamie, we talked about a mind is a terrible thing to waste. we cannot afford to waste our precious children getting to university. >> that is wonderful, thank you, kelly. our nation's leaders are all standing ground on both sides over the next fiscal showdown. it's the debt ceiling. president obama's vowing he will not negotiate when it compaes t america paying its bills. senator mcconnell is linking obama care to any cost about raising the anythingnation's bo. listen. >> i will not negotiate over congress' responsibility to pay the bills that have already been racked up. >> it all adds up to just one

thing. the law in trouble. the law that needs to be repealed. that's the goal of every member of the republican conference here in the senate. we're united on the need to repeal obama care. >> great to have both of you today. >> great to be here. >> i wanted to learn, starting with you, mark, what is at stake for each side, if we do have these government shutdown, and we cannot compae to an greepagr at least to present something to the president he's willing to sign? >> it's important to mention there is a lot at stake. for republicans in congress. there's more at stake for the american people here. >> what about the democrats -- let me just do it -- >> let me just -- >> let me just -- we're fair and

balanced here, if you don't mind. we'll talk about the people who have everything at stake really if the people they voted in office can't come to an agreement. for democrats, what's at stake? i covered the president's talk yesterday from the press room. he was very adamant he's not negotiating but he wants republicans to. >> he's not negotiating. this is why , the time for negotiating is when you're passing laws, not when you're enforcing laws. just like with terrorists. we won't negotiate with people who want to hijack the american budget just to pursue one law they want repealed. imagine the strategy every time congress had to pass a budget and one party decided we're not going to let the budget pass unless these three laws are repealed that we don't happen to like. >> but your party decided in the senate -- >> -- the way the congress should operate -- >> mark -- >> -- i'll tell you --

>> you didn't answer my question really. i'm give you another chance. >> please, democrats have everything to gain from this -- >> no, if they can't agree and they're not willing to make compromises the house wanted them to make and the senate says it's all or nothing and nothing happens, what do they have to lose? angela, why don't you tell me first what republicans will have to lose and what you see democrats losing and then have mark respond. let's try that. >> mark just had a great example. liberals have the message. you are the messenger. if the government closes down, if it shuts down, jamie, you're going to have your mouth pieces out there from the left blaming republicans. but at the end of the day, the president needs to be presidential and congress needs to do its job. we don't need to hold legislation hostage. now the american people, they don't like obama care. but the bottom line is this, it is the law the land. so some conservatives want to let the law implement itself and

the american people will see who's right, who's wrong. at the end of the day, when it comes to the messaging, if the government shuts down, it will backfire on republicans. >> okay. so my republican advocate did say the republicans have something to lose. are you saying if you want give republicans some of what they think their constituents want, mark, that democrats have nothing to lose, that it has to be all or nothing, which is what the president said yesterday. >> i hate to say this, there are a lot of democrats that are giddy at the prospect of the republicans shooting themselves in the foot this way, by letting the government shut down, this will backfire hugely for them. i agree with angela in the midterm elections. i actually feel sorry for a lot of the republican leadership who are really fair-minded here because their party is being -- >> you know what, mark -- >> i understand that everybody's a political analyst. but this is very important. let me ask you this, i was a

little struck by something the president said yesterday. he said we have to pay the bills that we've already incurred. why are we incurring bills under a democratic senate and a democratic president, why are we incurring bills with money we don't have? why do we keep having to come back to this debt ceiling and raise it? >> i'll answer that question. as it's demonstrating so dramatically, so theatrically right now, congress has control of the purse strings. it allocates money. so what congress has done is congress has racked up these bills and now congress is threatening the american taxpayer that's not going to pay them back. last time we had the shutdown, it cost the taxpayer $2 billion for the cost of that shutdown. this is financially reckless. it's not just if the government shuts down it will be a problem. damage has already been done. staff members at the department of defense right now distracted at their job of defending our

country by making contingency plans for what's going to happen -- >> negotiate -- >> mark, they are focused, i mean, certain things may get cut that we don't want. angela, quickly, don't -- >> yes, like diplomatic security, like social security -- >> why do we keep coming back to this? would republicans do it any differently? >> the bottom line is this, jamie. we need to have some spending cuts. the president, the joke inside the beltway is the only red line the president would adhere to is a red line not to negotiate with republicans in the house. so both sides need to come to some agreement. you have tea partiers that want to stand on principle. you have a president. you're not going to utilize my obama care to actually, you know, cut down the spending in congress. both sides need to grow up and do their job and actually do what the american people want. we don't need our warriors suffering or seniors not getting their social security check. at the end of the day, it's

going to backfire. it is. on the right. >> i need to leave it there. thank you both for your responses. we don't have a lot of time in the next couple of days. but i appreciate you both weighing in. >> thanks, ajamie. >> have a great day. >> thank you, bye. claimed the lives of 19 firefighter bus could that devastating fire been prevented? what an official investigation just uncovered. plus, the u.n. brokering a deal with the assad regime to give up its chemical weapons, but does it go far enough? we will speak with the national security expert about what may turn out to be some very unintended consequences for the region and the united states. [ taps baton ] [ dings ] ♪ ♪

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under way in st. louis this weekend. among the top guests today, former senator rick santorum and texas governor rick perry. holding a vigil for the victims of a collapsed apartment building in mumbai. the cause of the accident is still unknown but neighbors say there were complaints about structural problems. and congratulations to the new miss world who has been crowned. 23-year-old megan young hails from the philippines. she was born in the united states and is an aspiring filmmaker. shedding light on the deadly wildfire in arizona that killed 19 firefighters. we're learning more about the tragic loss of the hot shots and what investigators say went wrong. >> the report released in just

the past few minutes actually saying that the hot shots had been looking at the fire's progress all day but their observation, hadn't led them to anticipate the approaching flow the fire or really the accompanying significant fire that suddenly leapt upon them. it was these changes apparently that was a doubling of the fire intensity and lengthening of the flame length. also the fire actually sort of moved 90 degrees directionally several times, at least twice, and that dramatically accelerated the spread of the fire. it was as if it was bending around them is how the report is describing it. there were inadequate radio communications apparently from the team. apparently some of the radios that they had were programmed without the specific alerts that others had, which means perhaps those radios could have given off signals in time they were actually getting into trouble. about a gap of 30 minutes in information available for the

granite mountain team. about half an hour, from just after 4:00 to just after 4:30. the investigate team can't verify communications from the crew at all. they've had almost -- from the investigation, no direct information from them. it's without this much can't really be known about the crew's decisions prior to their entrapment. direct quote here, nobody will ever know how the crew actually saw their situation, which options they considered or what motivated their actions. the team found no indication of negligence, reckless actions or violations of policy or protocol. that from the investigation team. what that investigation team does know is that the rapidly advancing fire eliminated the crew's options of reaching the safety zone that they had in the boulder area or whether they should return to the canyon rim. they had less than two minutes

to improve deployment site they had and they were deploying fire shelters when the fire overtook them. temperatures exceeding apparently 2,000 degrees and the fire was just not survivable, says the report. the report concluding that the 19 crew members were found about a mile southeast of their last known location which is close to boulder springs. more later on in the day as we get it. we're expecting that news conference to start any time. we've been having technical problems. we'll bring it to you late. >> all of us still saddened by that tragedy. thank you. we have some new reaction to tell you about. a telephone conversation that happened between our president and his iranian counterpart h hasan rohani, the new president of iran. it's a move that ends two decades of diplomatic estrangement between the two countries. 30 years, this hasn't happened. >> it is quite historic.

iranian president rohani was leeching new york after his first speech to the united nations general assembly. a senior white house official says both presidents expressed an urgency and determination to resolve the nuclear issue between both nations peacefully and quickly. the u.s. believes iran is developing a nuclear program for weapons. iran says it's for peaceful purposes. rohani arrived back in tehran today to mixed reaction. hundreds greeted his motorcade. one banner reading yes to peace and no to war. while several hard line conservative protesters upset with his conversation with obama tried blocking his motorcade, chanting death to america while reportedly hurling eggs. one demonstrator even throwing a shoe. the move is a common gesture of con tent in the middle east. the reaction after rohani says he hopes to seek a nuclear deal with the u.s. in the next three to six months. rohani is hoping the new deal will put an end to the crippling

economic sanctions put in place by the u.s. for its nuclear program. >> i think the biggest challenge rohani will face is actually proving to the u.s. and world community that what he said here on the world stage, the way in which he strolled into new york as a moderate. now he has to back that up. and to see how he will reconcile that with his hard-line supporters back in iran today. >> as for one of the biggest allies israel, israeli prime minister netanyahu has voiced skepticism about rohani. he will visit the white house on monday. the u.n. is brokering a deal to secure syria's chemical weapons that we know. the plan calls for the assad regime to either remove or destroy its arsenal of sarin gas and other chemical weapons by the middle of next year. joining us is steven yates, former deputy assistant to vice president dick cheney for national security affairs.

and the ceo of d.c. international advisory. good of you to join us. let's get to the question. is the u.n. deal a bridge to peace or is it a bridge to nowhere? can assad continue to use chemical weapons and get away with it? >> kelly, i think when we face these kinds of arms control agreements, you have to look at whether they're going to be complete, irreversiblrreversibl verifiable and whether the actual capabilities are destroyed. and the ability to remake them are destroyed. i think when we look at how this deal came into being and the fact there is limited enforcement, there is early warning, where things could have been hid be or removed temporarily and put back in place. we have to worry a little about this being complete and irreversible at the very least. >> that's a legitimate concern. quite a few people in the security community has about this. everyone seems to be focused on what is being done to secure the chemical weapons. no one should forget that assad

still has the power to inflict more astrosties against his own people with his military forces which have already killed more than 100,000 people. so did we get a good deal out of this? >> i think that's actually a very, very important point. it gets too lost in the focus on one set of weapons that the assad ra gee and its allies are able to employ. this will not reso of the civil war. it also will not resolve the issue of foreign intervention there, where you basically have an alliance of russian capabilities. iran, hezbollah and others engaging in continued aggression there aimed at shaping the region. the president really hasn't addressed any of those challenges with the specific focus on chemical weapons and we have doubts about the effort on chemical weapons alone. >> when you look at whether whole entire regime, it says it's cracking down on so-called terrorists. what about the attacks on christians living in the area, the obstruction of hiss storeto

churches and the abuses of other citizens in syria? how are they considered terrorists? >> right. that's a very, very important consideration too that's been lost in a lot of the narrative about the arab spring where we focused on sunni/shia competitions. there are religious and other minorities having their rights and their livelihoods affected by this in terrible, tear be a w ways. the house of representatives addressed this. i think that's a nice modest step in the right direction. really, the on thing that will help is if there's greater accountability in that region and the islamists who want a marriage of an interpretation of islam and the state are pushed back. >> what do you think is going to happen in the future? >> i'm concerned this basically buys time for assad and that the status quo in syria and the broader region continues unab e unabated, while we remain largely distracted by a u.n.

process of verification which we learned from other challenges like iraq and elsewhere can go on for a long type without addressing these issues. >> some would take that to mean assad actually won in all of this deal making. steven yates, we thank you for sharing on this important matter. our economy is still on edge. but now even more. it's bracing for a possible government shutdown. what happens if the lights go out in washington? we're going to analyze that impact for all of us next. hey linda!

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back now to the showdown at the capital. as there's a battle under way to keep the government from running out of money. talk of a possible government shutdown has already started to spook investors. so what happens if the worst comes to pass and lawmakers are not able to strike a budget deal? our guest is the president of investment management.

mickey this is a very serious situation going on. moody's analytics chief told the budget senate committee this past tuesday, quoting him here, that shutting the government down for three or four weeks would do significant economic damage. what are you concerns about a partial government shutdown? >> the thing we can really do is just look back at what's happened at the past government shutdowns. al remind our viewers that the government has shut down 17 times in the last 38 years. so this isn't something that's unique. something we go through frequently. in 1995, we saw the stock market fall about 3.5% during the 20-plus day shutdown that we had. only to rally 10.5% once the deal was signed. so, you know, it's something that's used as a negotiating tool. i think the markets recognize this as political posturing and they're not really concerned with long-term impact.

>> the peep themselves are concerned about it. as you pointed out in 1995, it was actually about 26 days that we saw the government shutdown. how will the markets respond? you basically say they're not worried about this. but what about the uncertainty in the economy? >> that is one thing that has a little more play this time than last. just from the fact that in the mid-90s to late '90s, we had a much more robust economy. we have a much more fragile economy today. >> because this sluggish economy we have going on, the fact that we have members on capitol hill who can't do a grown-up thing and decide on how to sit down and come to an agreement on something to move our country forward. this could impact the sluggish economy, right? >> right. kelly, we have to recognize also the reason they can't move forward is because it pays them not to. by having these single issue items that come up that they can conflict with one another it

galvanizes their base and allows them to raise more money for campaigns. until we change the way we run for office and the way we pay for that, there can be no change. we'll continue to have these last moment deals. >> a lot of people out there agree on that matter. the worst case would be if congress fails to raise the debt ceiling. we've been down this path before. it didn't work out quite so well. the nation suffered its first downgrade. what happens this time if congress and the president failed to act on that matter as well. >> yeah, we'll see a downgrade. it does have a more significant impact. that comes up in mid-october. and, you know, we have the current deals actually work out, we'll have both a spending resolution and the erasing of the debt ceiling at the same time. there's no doubt that they have to raise the debt ceiling. it's just a matter of how they company to some compromise agreement to do that. the last time we had a debt ceiling conflict, we saw the market fall 14% during that period.

and it took five months to make that 14% back u. but i will tell your viewer also that you look at today compared to 2011 is we still have a strong and vibrant economy. no matter what the policymakers do, capital system will thrive, it will adapt and find a way. >> i love that end note. optimism as always. appreciate you, have a good day. are you thinking about getting a flu shot? last year's flu was particularly deadly. 161 children died. and there's some important medical news to share with you about what could be a universal vaccine. either strain covered. the doctor from our medical aid team will explain. goodnight.

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look, i know if you're home sick, you're going to watch the show. but i don't want you to get the flu. this year, there may be a flu vaccine that works for all strains. our guest, professor of urology of the north shore lig school of medicine. he'll join me on "sunday house call" tomorrow morning.

is it possible there will be a flu vaccine that will treat every flu, doc? >> jamie, it's on the path. we're not there yet. we're almost a few years away from this. but it's a very interesting concept. this is a research that's coming out of oxford in england. the researchers and scientists are finding out more and more about this universal vaccine. what we know is every year there are new strains of flus that have coming in. they changed the protein on the surface on a regular basis. that's why every year the researchers, the doctors and vaccine developers sit together and sort of guesstimate exactly what kind of flu is going to company the next season. if you're recall, last year, despite all the vaccines, only 62% of the people were covered by this strains we predicted. that's really not good enough. this universal vaccine hopefully

will be able to cover 100%. part of the discovery here is instead of going after the surface proteins of the flu strain that can change, now we're going to target the actual core protein in the flu. and that's universal across all the flu strains. this is a big discovery. they found that in 2009 over 340 students. the ones that had more t cells in their immune system, and when that level was really high, they had milder symptoms of flu. the ones that had low levels of t cells, they had much worse symptoms. now this concept of coming up with a t-cell vaccine or universal vac kecine is extreme intriguing. it's a big possibility. we're unfortunately three to four years away from this. >> i only have 15 seconds left because i want to tell people about the great show you'll have tomorrow. would you get the flu vaccine

now or would you wait another month or so to see what happens? >> i would absolutely encourage everyone to go ahead and get flu vaccines. the sooner you get then, it takes about two weeks to develop those antibodies. the idea that -- i got it last year, should i get it again? as i mentioned, these strains change on a regular basis so get your flu vaccine, absolutely. >> tomorrow morning, you will be with me tomorrow, looking forward to seeing you then, doc. nice to see you. >> thank you so much, looking forward to it. >> it was great to have everyone here. i think we're a little bit used to our surroundings now. >> doesn't take us long. >> thanks again, everyone. >> "the journal editorial report" is coming up next. i've always tried to give it my best shot. these days i'm living with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. at first, i took warfarin, but i wondered, "could i up my game?"

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