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office of this great nation. this week, the obamacare debate rages on. the president of the united states, lowering himself to a level rarely, if ever, seen in american politics. his comments laced with ridicule and sarcasm. >> and now they've gone beyond just holding congress hosage. they're holding the whole country hostage. >> it gets better, take a listen to his head cheerleader, nancy, his senate majority leader, and the guy wind vented the -- the guy who invented the internet. >> legislative arsonis at work. >> the only phrase that describes it is political terrorism. >> bombs strapped to their chest? arsonists? terrorists?
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you call people terrorists? you want to talk terrorists? how about shifting thousands of assault weapons to the mexican drug cartels for free, which are then used to massacre both americans and mexican civilians. might that qualify as terrorism? and anarchists? you force us to purchase insurance, fine us if we don't, hire 16,000 new irs agents to come after us, something your irs has already been doing against your political enemies, and withouty anarchists? what is with the name-calling. it's beneath you, or at least beneath the office you hold. mr. president, i think that we can all agree that your signature legislation was written by a committee, whose own chairman didn't understand it. passed by a congress that didn't read it. who then decided to exempt
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themselves. do you really think it's forcing young people to buy health insurance will cover the healthcare costs of the additional 30 million people without adding a single doctor? now, how are you going to do that? who is going to run this mess? houdini? mr. president, i walked in the heart of new york city, sixth avenue, part of the liberal northeast, a bastion of the democratic party, a place you can count on. i asked people about obamacare, and i got to tell you, no one understands it. what do you think of obamacare? >> i don't really quite understand it. just like everybody else. i don't understand it. i don't understand it. it is not explained to me. >> are you going to have to read the 1500 pages so you can understand it. >> that ain't happening. >> what do you think of obamacare. >> not much. >> why. >> don't know enough about it.
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>> what do you think of obamacare. >> i'm not familiar enough to give an honest opinion. >> no wonder the polls reflect disapproval of your legs. they don't want it, they don't like it, and they can't afford it. it's a national joke. >> breaking bad has its final episode on sunday. as you know, -- it's a great show. it's the story of this chemistry teacher and he has cancer and starts making meth to cover his health costs, or as republicans call it, an alternative to obamacare. >> you promised obamacare would lower premiums by $2,500, that no one would have to change their doctor, and that we could keep our current plans and that it will not hurt jobs. well, here's the inconvenient truth.
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as a direct result of obamacare, more than 300 companies have already either eliminated jobs or reduced fulltime jobs to parttime jobs. you promised we could keep our doctors. but those healthcare exchanges, the ones that begin next tuesday, they don't identify the doctors. and what about the doctors closing up shop or cutting back on patients because they can't keep up with the paperwork? and affordable? many across the country will face hikes of 30, 40, 50% or more. and by the way, did your lawyer, in over his head holder, reviewer landmark legislation? to me it sounds like he did because everytime it's supposed to be rolled out, there's another problem and another delay. could you do me a favor? could you give him a little note
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from me? you cannot change a law passed by congress without congressional approval. you can't just say, okay, this one is not going to work, so forget about it. and you dig your heels in even more by ridiculing anyone who opposes your law as rich fatcats, who have already got good health care. >> some of the tea party's biggest donors, the wealthiest men in america, are funding a cynical ad campaign trying to convince young people not to buy health care at all. i mean, think about it. these are billionaires, several times over, you know they've got good health care. >> mr. president, with all due respect, if your healthcare plan is so great, why aren't you enrolled in it? why don't you change course a little and lead by example? if your plan is so great, why did you exempt your union
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buddies? you know, the ones who helped you get elected. and if it's so great, why are congress and federal employees not enrolled? it? and you want to talk fat cat? it seems to me like you guys are the fat cats, and we're the beons who have tohis mess that will do nothing but to enslave our children and grandchildren for generations to come. and then you trash fox news channel because we call you out on it. >> if you talk to member who says i don't know, was watching fox news and they said it's horrible. >> mr. president, you're not talking to me, are you? you're not talking to me. >> you talking to me? you talking to me? well, who the hell are you talking to. talking to me? i'm the only one here.
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>> ms. president, i'm not the only one here. with me now, professor emeritus of neurosurgery at john hopkins university and texas news contributor. good evening, dr. carson. am i wrong? >> you're not wrong at all. and the very unfortunate thing here is that sometimes things have to get so bad that even the most biased person can see that it's a tragedy, and unfortunately that's where we're going to have to go before a lot of people wake up. i do think people are starting to wake up and starting to realize that, this is nothing but a farce, and really, i don't think the people who put this together ever intended for it to really work, because it is so bad, it is so ill-conceived. i can't imagine smart people
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would put something like that together. >> and, doctor, i'm going to ask you to stand by. we'll have more on the obamacare battle right after the break. and vote in tonight's instapoll. what fictional tv or movie president would you want in the white house. facebook or tweet me. and litter, worldwide man hunt for this woman. could this terror suspect, dubbed "the white widow" be the mastermind behind last saturday's kenya massacre? ♪ man: [ laughs ] those look like baby steps now.
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the countdown to obamacare continues. -- ben carson still with me. dr., i went out on the street ask people what they think about obamacare. not one person understood it. how are people this week, when she exchanges are supposed to start on tuesday, are going to know what to do in the first place? >> this is so symptomatic of government programs. look at the tax structure. none understands it. the same thing with the healthcare issues and particularly with the irs in charge of enforcement, you can imagine the havoc. and we do need health re form. no question. we spend twice as much as the next closest nation. this is easy to fix. i have a stack of --
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>> how would you fix it? >> well, first of all, what do you need for goodhawkhawk? you need a patient and a health care provider. along come this middle man to facilitate the relationship, now the primary entity with the patient and healthcare privateer. first you have the success. getted the middle man out. do that with health savings account. we can do that for far less money than we're spending with cmf and it can be a very basic health care account to which people can add as they please, and you can buy bridge insurance, catastrophic insurance. the nice thing is 80% of encounters between physicians and healthcare providers can be taken care of through health savings account. >> one person on the street said my son is a doctor, and he is pulling back on his patients
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because he just can't do the paperwork. so, given something lick that, the fact that the majority of americans are against this, white too you think the administration refuses to acknowledge that there are problems? >> because what is the most important thing that a person has? it is their health. if the government can gain control of your health, they've got you, and that's why this -- that's why it was so important to push this through first thing when you have complete control of congress. twisting arms, doing everything you needed to do in the back room. we have to get control of the people. so totally antithetical to the founding principle of the nation, so to be for and by the people, you were supposed to have control of your own life. now the government has insinuated itself into the most important part of your life and they will continue to. >> with the irs, which we know has been targeted with going after the political opponents of
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this administration, if you have to get approval from these people, or if they're involved in this in any way, shape or form, that's a frightening thought. but, doctor, if the unions are getting waivers, shouldn't the american people be able to do the same? >> yeah. the whole country should get a waiver, a permanent waiver, and we should sit down and start working together to come up with something that makes sense for the people. >> what are the people in the medical community saying about this? >> a lot of my colleagues are telling me they sure well-they could retire like i have. i got out at the right time. i was planning on getting out even before all of this happened, but a lot of doctors are going into con sieger practice with not a lot of
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middle management, and that means the numbers left to take care of the extra 30 or 40 million people, plus the people who are already there, this is going to be unmanageable. we're going to end up with people waiting are few long periods or time. not being able to find physicians, just like in other socialist countries. why would we settle for that? i think it's a wakeup call for the american people. we need to realize that maybe this battle may be lost but the war is not lost. not if people wake up right now, realize there are opportunities to put people into positions of power. >> before we go, do you think the house is going to be able to delay this for a year? implementation of obamacare? >> whether they can or not, they certainly should make every effort to do so. there are tens of millions of people who didn't vote in the last election because the don't think anybody represents them. sometimes the people who oppose obamacare go right up to the wall and then they cave. they need somebody who will not
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cave, and if they know that, they will get behind them, i guarantee you. >> dr. carson, thanks for being with us this evening. >> my pleasure, judge. thank you. >> coming up, is this woman responsible for the deadly terror attack in kenya? the latest on the hunt for the white widow. later, is -- his house trashed by partying kids. could a former nfl player get sued for calling those teens out for the crime? i'm kind of seeing a...
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she was connected to this incident in 2011 when authorities found bombmaking materials in her kenyan apartments. witnesses last week say they saw a female attacker inside the mall who matches the description. who is the white widow? and holiday are so many women being recruited into the world of terrorism. with me, author of "bomb shell. " women in terror." mia, you wrote the book on female terrorists. we haven't heard of that many women as terrorists. what's going on? how are they being recruited and why are they doing it? >> well, actually, judge, if you read the book, one of the things it's surprising to find out is that women have been involved in terrorism from the very beginning, going back to the
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19th century. so there's nothing surprising about women's involvement in terrorism. what has been new is a lot of these islamist groups started using women in the last ten to 15 years and they have been very effective not just at recruiting women, but using the women to recruit other men. >> but going on for so long, then you said it's just in the last 10 to 15 years the islamists are using them. is it this particular organization? the gee had des -- jihadis are using women? what are you saying? >> absolutely. when i was doing the research for the book, i traveled around the world and i interviewed women who had been part of terrorist organizations, and if you go back to the '6 0s and '7s so, one group was named after in part one of the leaders was a woman. and had women in the provisional
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ira, the head of eta, the baath separatist group is a woman, soily are women all over. what is different about samantha lewthwaite and other women in the jihadi groups they use their jennifer to get men into participating and they're effective online to raise money, races awareness -- >> i'm going to go to you, eric. in terms of the -- you are so familiar with this particular part of the world. i mean, isn't there a shame that is accompanied by the need to have women do this? mine, are they really trying to embarrass the men? >> no, judge, not really. the vast majority of islamic terrorists are, let's face it, young males of middle eastern and south asian descent. so what a coup to get a caucasian woman. you going through the airport and you see a cause cakes woman,
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you're probably not giving her a second glands and expect her to be a terrorist and that's the benefit for the jihadists. they look for white women, white men, and even the handicap. we have seen this in iraq, female suicide bombers from europe. we also saw it in chechneya. this is the white widow we're talking about in the kenya attack there's a group of female suicide bombers in chechneya called the black widows and have wreaked a of carnage in russia. >> is the idea they're a widow is the fact their husbands have already been killed and they're taking up the jihad of their husbands? >> there have been a few cases where woman's whose husbands became famous. lewthwaite was not the first one. another woman, her husband was one of the first suicide bombers
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to days before 9/11, and what happens with these widows, they become almost the guiding light of the jihad in places like europe. so it's not unusual to see women's involvement. what they have done is up until now they played support roles. we don't see in the jihadi groups very many women who are operational as opposed to, say in chechneya, where the women are on the front lines and blowing up a school. >> eric, the idea of these women in muslim countries, and there is a reluctant on part of the security to pat them down, that certainly works to their benefit. yes? >> sure. it is a great benefit. i have to say, with a lot of these females, these suicide bombers ex-they have a lot of baggage. thank back to the boston bombers, the wife of one of the bombers converted to islam. she had a lot of personal problems, and a lot of times these islamic terrorist are very
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charismatic, very forceful personalities, and we see women coming under their sway. we saw it in boston and i believe we saw it here in the kenya attack with samantha lewthwaite. >> thanks so much. as a followup, we did call the fbi about the investigation of tsarnaev's widow and they wouldn't confirm or deny that investigation is going on. thank you. >> thank you, judge. >> joining me now, the former nfl star who is fighting back against the teens who trashed his house. and later, could this be the latest own oak administration play to take your guns? we'll give you all the information. stay with us. goodnight. atlantic i turned 65 last week.
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are heating up. g.o.p. leaders in the house want to delay obamacare for a full year, and they will be debating and voting on it. we're told this could go on for hours into the night but democrats have said they will never let any measure go forward which touches the president's signature healthcare law. the judge will have more on this. also, in last, police have man in custody in connection with a deadly shooting inside a church. police accuse woodrow carey of shooting a pastor who was giving a sermon last night. kerry left the church of the shooting and later turn himself in. now back to the judge. this is a fox news alert. the showdown over the government shutdown continues. joining me now is fox news chief
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correspondent, carl cameron with the latest. carl, how is what is going on tonight different from the last bill that the republicans sent to the senate? >> the house is working tonight to essentially put back provisions dealing with obamacare into a measure that would keep the government open past monday at midnight when it's scheduled to shut up to and government funds run out. the senate stripped out all those provisions today. today the house is going to put back two things, one to delay the implement addition of the affordable care act for a year, and, two, one that would repeal the tax on medical devices. it will be available for the senate to pass. that is a change. this time around the republicans altered their proposal. last time it was to defund obama obamacare, so the republicans moved the ball and came up with another offer but still trying to limit and slow down
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obamacare. >> carl, has the senate democrats already indicated that they're not going to take any of to the changes, the one-year delay as well as the tax? >> oh, yes. >> what this point? >> the president issued a statement saying he is not going to do -- his aides did it. harry reid of nevada made it clear he is not going to. the point is to get it to the senate floor, and the senate will be in business at 2:00 monday afternoon, and what the majority leader can do with his rules is strip out all the obama-related information, up related to keeping keeping the government open and push it back to the house. then we get into the situation of legislative ping-pong, legislative hot potato, and the question is how much time for the house and senate to make one more bite at the apple -- pardon all the vegetables and fruits. and then the government could
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shut done. they could decide to give themselves an extension for ten days, and they could decide to run late into the night past the dead lip and then fix and it retroactively change the clock. they made lease laws, they can rewrite them. >> we have these deadlines and then harry reid says, we're gone. see you monday at two. those are like bankers' hours, even better. >> and this entire fight is only about extending it to the middle of december. in fact the senate bill would eave only extended it to the middle of november. so number of this is solving the problem, to battle how long they can kick the can down the road. >> i hope you get some sleep in the next few days. now for the latest on the story that shocked many of us. six arrests have been made after the home over former nfl player, brian holloway was trashed by
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teens. and holloway posted the pictures taken by the teens who did it as the trashed the house, causing $20,000 in damage to his house. the case gets national attention. entity this. some of the parents of the teens are threatening to sue holloway for putting the pictures, the kids did themselves, they posted, on his web site. you got to love it. joining me now, former patriots and raiders offensive linemen, brian holloway, good evening, brian. >> hi, judge, how are you today? >> i'm great. i'm great. one of the issues this guy -- right now charged with several felonies. a guy who took into your home out of the goodness of your heart. how do you feel about that? is surprised. he was an stretch how path for a long time. when i found out he was the kingpin, i didn't have any
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words. you think drugs, you think where did he fall off the track, and how do we get him on the right track back? >> brian, initially you weren't even looking to press charges. $20,000 in damage. the kids are arrogant enough to post what they did as if they're proud of it, and you weren't looking to press charges. what made you change your mind? >> well, i gave them the opportunity to come as a community together and least get this deal dealt with and be accountable. so they could stand in the moment and be able to take responsibility. that didn't happen. and then i made an appeal to the parents, another week later, could you come help? can we come together as a community. your child pooped in their pants, not mine. let's get the diaper changed. they didn't show up. >> it's amazing. hundreds of partygoers, no apologies? >> not one. and now what we found out it
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wasn't 300 there, it was 400 and that party was to plan a party for 4,000, what was supposed to happen this weekend. you'll get all the breaking information on "help me save 300.com. we found that out yesterday. supposed to be 4,000 people at my place this weekend. >> wow. brian holloway, thanks so much for this. with me now former police officer and current trial attorney, montgomery delaney. now, thanks for being with us. do the parents have a case against the home owner? they're saying they're going to get this guy, brian -- they're going to sue him for posting pictures of their kids trashing his home, where they trespassed, burglarized, criminal mischief. do they have a case? >> i don't think so. talk about the common law tort of definition per se but that doesn't wash here. >> is truth a defense? >> truth is a defense. and the notion that their privacy rights were violated is
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an grow gaited by the fact they posted the pictures themselves. legal advice to these parents, forget about any attempt at a lawsuit. it's a bad example for your kids and just wrong. >> but you know what? the bad example to the kids is already out there because -- if i were a parent, my kid did that and he is literally in picture? the first thing i say is you get your butt over there expert stalloneing. >> i saw a video of mr. holloway's daughter, 18 minutes long. they've i want to learn how to raise a good kid, watch that video. she is a credit to her family. these parents need to let go of the idea they're going to sue. they need to have these kids -- >> what's going to happen to them? >> most of them -- their yos -- >> meaning youthful offender, records probably sealed. >> seal records. most of them will walk out of the court with acd.
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>> charge dismissed. >> charge dismissed. >> what about the kid seth that holloway 'brought into his home now charged with a felony. >> he is in trouble. mr. holloway said this will be a real learning opportunity for this young man. what he did here was potentially dangerous to a lot of young people. there was alcohol at the party, drugs at the party, underage people. >> no doubt. montgomery, no doubt in my mind there are cell phones taking pictures of illegal acts taken on. i was the d.a. long enough to know what guess on at underage drinking parties, and alcohol is at the core, and shame on those parent whose don't have the parental skills to make these kids apologize and responsible. your kids are -- you're as bad as your kids. >> a terrible example to setting are trying to change the focus from the children and it it on
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mr. holloway. they should put these kids in. it should be overtime for the sheriffs. maybe more overtime than in years. >> spoken by a true police officer. nypd actually. >> they should save their fellow home scores taxpayers by bringing these kids in and serving them up and letting them take their medicine and take responsibility for their actions. >> yep. thanks so much for were with us. the obama administration just signed a treaty that many say could trample on the second amendment rights to bear arms. we'll break that one down for you right after the break. and don't forget to vote in tonight's instapoll. what fictional tv or movie president would you want in the white house? facebook or tweet me. run, go, go! did he just fumble?
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supporters say the treaty will help end human rights violations, but opponents worry it could step on constitutional rights. with me, conservative:almostist and gun rights advocate, a.r.w. hawkins, and the president of the national gun victims action council, elliott fineman. gentlemen, i'll start with you, awr. how that the treaty infringe on the second amendment rights of americans. >> because it requires -- doesn't require -- it urges countries that sign on to it, urges them to keep records of end use or end users for ten years, and an end user in the case of a light weapon, like an ar-15, would mean that once it goes from manufacture torii tail to the person who buys it, the person who buys it is the end user, and this treaty urges the government to keep documentation on them for ten years. that is not simply registration by another name.
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that just registration, and we need to understand that plain and simple. a back are door way to register all gun owners in america. >> if the country that receives a weapon -- the treaty is about small arms -- they then have to notify the united states government that someone sent a weapon here to another country? >> right. this treaty treats export, import, and end user, all three areas, and the thing we have to understand, it's like wayne lapierre said-this treaty requires manufacturers of civilian shotguns comply with the same regulations as manufacturers of military attack helicopters. that's the best quote to give you. >> elliott, if the purposes to prevent small arms from landing in the hands of those who would commit human rights violations, why aren't governments covered by at the treaty as well as individuals?
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>> well, this is a treaty between governments. >> but it's about individuals. isn't it? >> well, the notion that individuals will be caught up in the treaty is one of the misrepresentations. this governs expert sales. in fact it's a $70 billion market of which you, we, the u.s., controls 80% of it. so these sales are happening now, and these export laws are the laws we follow right now. the idea is to codify them all over the world. so there's nothing -- >> i understand what you're saying, elliott. my question is, if the whole point of this is to make sure that there is not -- that human rights -- people who might commit human rights violations are not receiving these weapons, so that they then back into where the weapons are coming from and then start a registry that is being kept for ten years, why isn't this applicable
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to countries as snell not individuals but to the government. >> this is exactly what the treaty is. it's a treaty between the governments, governing the sale of the export -- >> the sales by individuals, not the sales by the government. >> well -- >> there's a difference. >> the sales are made by companies. when you -- >> or individuals. all right. awr, what do you think? >> neither here nor there are. >> what i say, elliott is flight a way. this race treaty between countries. governments, but it binds the governments to do the things required, and one of the things urged is a ten-year keep of documentation, which is a gun registry. another thing required, the point of the bill, is to stop arms from moving illegally across borders. even if this bill didn't urge people to keep records, judge, think about this. how do they know what weapons are moving across borders unless
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they first know the origin of each and every weapon. the only way to do that is to have some type of registry. we went through the same thing with the manchin toomey bill, and registration was only imimmediate, wasn't explicit. in this bill, registration is explicit, judge, and it's too our detriment we ignore that. >> all right. elliott, ay wr, thanks nor being with us tonight. this is going to be a very interesting issue. thank you. >> thank you. >> don't miss my take on the montana judge who sentenced a rapist to 30 days in jail. 30 days. this is your last chance to vote in tonight's instapoll. what fictional tv or movie president would you want in the white house? facebook or tweet me at judge jeanine.
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happen to a 49-year-old teacher convicted of a statutory rape of his 14-year-old student? that man was previously told to keep his hands off the young girl's thighs. judge baugh was willing to dismiss the charges if the sex offender completed a program. shortly there after the 14-year-old commits suicide. but claiming that the victim was as much in control as the teacher and that she was, quote, older than her chronological age of 14 years, the judge sentenced him to 31 days in jail.
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after the public outcry, the judge tried to resentence the teacher to the mandatorily required minimum of two years in state prison. too late. the teacher is out, free man, walking the streets. what i want to know as a judge, is why judge baugh who has been a judge since 1984 didn't even know the law of his state. why he was willing to dismiss all charges in the first place. and why he would trash a 14-year-old deceased victim. was he so overwhelmed by this defendant predator's goodness and so underwhemd by the victim that he felt the justice required 30 days. now the montana da is appealing
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in the hopes that the teacher is sentenced to the two years he should have gotten in the first place. he's a free man walking the streets. he didn't have to register as a sex offender but go anywhere he wants. as a judge, i know it's hard to come up with the right punishment but i don't think anyone out there thinks this is right. it's bad enough to have a convicted rapist on the streets after a month but judge todd baugh says he has no plans to resign and is soon up for re-elect. i hope the people of montana do to judge baugh what he is so fond of doing to criminals and that is kick him out onto the streets. now the results of tonight's poll. we asked you what tv fictional president would you want in the white house? the consensus was that almost anyone would do a better acting job, would do a better job
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acting like the president than our current commander in chief. doris tweets. micha michael douglas for his smoothness. doris, you might be onto something. harrison ford definitely has some votes. sterling writes, any of them are better than the one we have now. maybe bartlett from the west wing. that would be martin sheen. we'll give the last word to peggy who simply suggested pinochio. that's it for us tonight. before we go, i met some great people on the streets of new york. take a look. >> i watch you. fox news is my station, is the only station that actually tells what it is. >> i love you. you are amazing. >> what do you think of obama care? do flash dancers have obama
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care. >> no. >> because they need obama care? >> if i was younger i would try to date you. >> thanks for joining us. remember to facebook me and tweet me @judgejeanine. see you next week. i'm kind of seeing a... some kind of... this is... an alien species. reality check: a lot of 4g lte coverage maps don't really look like much at all. i see the aleutian islands. looks like a duck. it looks like... america... ish. that's a map. that's a map of the united states. check the map.
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>> this is a fox news alert. i'm geraldo rivera. the republicans in the house have refused to blink. they have rejected the senate bill that would leave obama care alone and are almost about to vote on proposals. one delays the tax and another repeels and the third pays the military even in the event of a shutdown. as the house goes through these gyrations, this just out. the white house just announced that on the off chance the senate agrees to any new bill passed by the house
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