>> this is a fox news alert. i'm geraldo rivera. the republicans in the house have refused to blink. they have rejected the senate bill that would leave obama care alone and are almost about to vote on proposals. one delays the tax and another repeels and the third pays the military even in the event of a shutdown. as the house goes through these gyrations, this just out. the white house just announced that on the off chance the senate agrees to any new bill passed by the house that averts

a shutdown only by delaying obama care president obama will veto it anyway. the government is set for a shutdown monday at midnight. chad joins us. chad, first of all, they have not yet started voting, is that correct? ? >> that's right. we would expect them to get to votes in the next 30 to 40 minutes. there are two amendments to this continuing resolution, the stopgap spending bill they're going to send back to the senate later tonight. one would be to repeal the medical device tax. the other would be to delay the imt tags of the affordable care act, obama care for a year. then the ball is back in harry reid's court. the majority leader said today that as far as he's concerned they're at, one.

he can easily dispense of what the senate has done here. all he has to do is table what the house sends him with a mere 51 votes. they don't have to go through 60 votes staving off ted cruz from getting on the senate floor. he can say i'm not taking the state senate. >> give me your forecast. in terms of delaying obama care for a year, will that as expected be a straight party line vote and will they all be straight party line votes and therefore will the house approve all of these bills? >> there could be a bit of a mixed vote on both of those here. there is been support in the dmic caucus. there was a vote in mid july. you might remember in early july president obama said they were going to delay the employer manned date. what the house republicans are proposing is an entire delay of the full bill. you might be some democratic

stragglers. >> this news that the president will veto it anyway, has that rippled through the house? >> no. this has long been a faye ta come plea when it comes to that. everyone knew what the president's position was and what harry reid's position is on this. the chairman of the house democratic caucus said they keep doing this every and over again. they talk about a fixation that the republicans have with try to defund obama care. people are starting to get jittery here. i talked with jose serrano, he said, look, i have a va hospital in my district. what happens to them. what happens when people try to go to the social security office. meanwhile, reed rible said a few days ago he didn't think there

would be a shutdown. now he's not so sure. >> chad, we'll check back with you as the voting begins. ladies and gentlemen, as congress continuing this careening towards crises, here's what else we have for you tonight. >> just now i spoke with president rowhani. the two of us discussed our on going efforts to reach on agreement over iran's nuclear program. >> after an historic week for the first time since the hostage crises of 1979, the u.s. and iranian presidents have spoken with each other about syria, poison gas and mostly about iran's nuclear program. do they really want peaceful power or are we being played? tonight the fox 5 glade yater eric bowling and i grapple over whether to give peace a chance. plus, as the l.a. jury decides whether to hit michael jackson's

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>> there are no words that excuse the killing of innocents. there is no video that justifies an attack on an embassy.

>> there is no justification, none at all, for responding to this video with violence. >> in fact, this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. what happened initially was it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. >> the notorious video called innocents of muslims portrayed the profit mohammed as the tyrant. then the obama administration took the blame game a step too far accusing the video of being responsible for the terror attack on our embassy, our consulate in benghazi libya which resulted in the death of three brave americans. just released from a halfway house after being sentenced to a

year in federal prison, the producer of the innocence of muslims, nakoula nakoula joins me from los angeles. did your film that you wrote, did that film ignite the violence in the muslim world? >> i'd like to say something. this country, the united states of america, gave me a lot. my children born and grow up in this country. i put my mind i'm supposed to protect this country. i'm asking all american and all immigrant to protect this country. that's why i wrote this movie. this movie, it is not a religion movie as much as at a political movie. my idea is fighting and i will keep fighting. that's why i'm telling you i'm not, you know, free or something.

i will keep fight with the terrorism culture. >> you're fighting terrorism, that's why you wrote this film? >> yes, i did. that's right. that's right. that's even when i wrote the book or something i dedicate to my book to the people in benghazi and to everyone, every mother or father, her son or his son or his daughter because of terrorism culture. >> you knew that your film insulted the profit mohammed and knew your film would insight anger from many devout muslims. is that not true? >> your question it's very important and i know you mean every word you said. i know that. you said you're movie.

did you see my movie? anyone of these people saw my movie? no. they just take a piece and run with it. you're question is very, very important question. >> nakoula, even if they only saw a trailer, a sampling of your film, is it not true that you knew that the muslim extremists that you are so opposed to, that these people who want to drink of milk and honey and virgins in heaven and blow themselves up, you knew that these crazy people, these crazy religious people would be angry at this film, did you not? >> same thing. you said crazy people. we can't deal with crazy people. we need to deal with logical people. i know i have a lot of muslim

friends, a lot. all of them, they know me and they know what i mean and they know i am really free and clear to explain everything. i always in negotiations with them and sometimes i agree for what they said and sometimes they are agree from whatever i said and i agree from whatever they said. 100 percent. >> how did you feel when violence broke out in cairo, egypt and they attacked the u.s. embassy in cairo, egypt after the film trailer of the film you wrote was released? how did you feel when the violence broke out? simple question, how did you feel? answer me straight. >> okay. because i am egyptian and i know the egyptians very well, i can tell you 50 percent from these people, if you looked to their egyptian passport, you find

them, they get reviewed to come to the united states. another 25 percent from these people, they went to this problem without knowing anything. maximum, maximum, 10 people from these people, they went to american embassy just because they hate united states, for the movie, for anything. they can do that any time without any reason, without even the movie. >> nakoula, you did not feel bad then when it happened because you're saying that they just used it as an excuse so you didn't feel any personal responsibility? is that what you are saying? >> no. of course i don't have any personal responsibility for sure. >> so absolutely the film played no role. it was just an excuse for violence?

>> yes, yes, sir. >> nakoula, are you in fear because you're fighting terrorism with this film and other things that you do and say, are you in fear now for your own life? >> my life is nothing. i am not better than ambassador or the three heros they get killed with him. i'm not important than them. i'm not important besides 3,000 get killed in new york. i'm not. i'm not that important. who am i? who am i? if everybody thinks about his life, forget united states, forget the free world, no. life is nothing besides these heros. >> nakoula, you're a very colorful character. i wish you well as we go forward in life. and you're not afraid. is that the message that you leave us with? >> no, i'm not afraid at all.

i never be afraid all my life. never. for what? for what? >> thank you for coming on tonight and i wish you luck. >> thank you very much. thank you for having me. >> coming up eric bowling and i go at it over whether to give peace a chance with iran. plus on the eve of a verdict in the michael jackson wrongful death case, craig's exclusive with the king of pop's original dr. feel good. next a live fair and balanced debate from congress and who is to blame for what looks like a government shutdown? [ male announcer ] introducing new fast acting advil. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the white box.

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>> the odds of averting a government shutdown now seems slim to none. now that the house republicans are in the process of rejecting the emergency spending bill approved by the democrats in the

senate, why did it come to this? who is to blame, does it matter? we're joined by tea party congressman stev king and henry quayar. are your stitch wants with you or with ted cruz that put on a speech that wasn't quite a filibuster. where do they stand? >> they stand with me in that they understand that the basic responsibility of congress, one, is to pass a budget on time and, two, to pay its bills on time. we are to be focusing on the budget right now, talking about how much we are to spend. we have sequester a year, two or three. unfortunately we're talking about other things on the bill that has passed three years ago.

>> the sequester, the sky was supposed to fall on the sequester and most americans look around and say i don't see the pain, the blood in the streets that i expected. is this going to be one of those, a lot of sound and fury that ultimately signifies nothing? >> certainly down there on the border i had a lot of meetings were border patrol saying they were worried about furloughs, long lines at the bridges, worried about not being paid from the u.s. attorney's office, from the probation officers. this is why we ought to be talking about the budget. we're talking about discretionary funding of $986 billion. are we going to have a sequester year or two? let's talk about the budget. this is what the emergency budget is all about. we're not even talking about that. nobody has talked about how much money we are spending or not spending or how we fund the basic services. >> congressman king, answer the

other -- your colleague's question. are you overlooking other important business to focus on what is essentially a political act? >> i don't think so. because we sent the prop ragss over to the senate. whatever happens, that's what we're going to end up with for spending. we said we're not going to allow any funding to go to the implementation of obama care. the senate passed no bills. they haven't passed any in a number of years. that is what gives harry reid the leverage to say, look, the house is threatening to shut the government down. we're not doing that. we put the resources there. he said we will not negotiate. the president said he will not negotiate. we've done the responsible thing time after time. so this becomes a disagreement on a single issue and the speculation is who will blink. that's how this is going to be

decided. in the end there will be an properation for sequestration levels. >> the smart money, congressman king, is that unless it's speaker boehner who blinks we're going to have a shutdown, the hope among moderates i've spoken to is that speaker boehner and some moderates agree to agree to something just to keep the government open, is that the possibility? what will you do? be very direct, what will you, congressman king, do if speaker boehner seeks a compromise that keeps the government open? >> if this means funding obama care i'm very likely a no vote on that. i can't speak for anybody else. the question again becomes who will blink. if i knew how this was going to end, then let's get to that. this is about getting to a

resolution of this matter. we have had 17 shutdowns in the past. i've never had anybody come to me and say i really miss my trip to yosemite. the government shouldn't have stood on that principle. there were two under bill clinton. in one of them we ended up with a balanced budget. we hold our line, that's the only chance we have, we'll never recover from obama care if it's implemented. that's really the principle. >> i hear you, congressman. but the last shutdown cost the taxpayers $1.4 billion. so that's $1.4 billion wasted, we had to pay civil servants who did not work, we had to pay them anyway. won't this shutdown add to the deficit you say you care so much about? >> we got a balanced budget out of that. i would write a check today for $1.4 billion if we could get to

balance the budget as many years as transpired out of that showdown in 1995 and 96. $1.4 billion in exchange for a balanced budget, that would be worth it today and i would take that deal. >> congressman, you have a situation where the republicans are saying it's the democrats fault. what about the blame game, where do you think it will reside when all is said and done? >> we saw this happen in 1990s where it fell on the republicans and it's going to again. the "wall street journal" said this is bad. the u.s. chamber of commerce wants us to pass this emergency bill. if you look at even mitch mcconnell is saying if you don't like obama care this is not the way to do it, you're not going to shut down government. if you look at what's been

happening under the republican majority, the final bill is going to be where the people in the middle, democrats and republicans are going to get together and pass something, the far left and right are going to say no. i think that's what is going to happen. the last point i want to make -- >> hurry. >> marge right now there is a republican president and a democratic majority and we said we are not going to shut down government unless you pass immigration reform. the republicans would cry murder. >> congressman king's ears turned red. i want to get you guys back as you start voting. up next eric bolling responds to my exclusive interview with the foreign minister of iran. [ man ] her parents didn't expect her dreams to be so ambitious. italy? oh, that's not good. [ man ] by exploring their options, they learned that instead of going to italy, they could use a home equity loan to renovate their yard and have a beautiful wedding right here while possibly increasing the value of their home.

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inventory of the arsenal with the goal of destroying it by the middle of next year. the break through follows last month's sarin attack that killed 1400 people. now back to geraldo at large. >> this is a fox news alert. we're monitoring the situation on the floor of the house of representatives. as soon as they start to vote on whether to delay obama care we'll go there live. in the meantime the iranian president rowhani is back in his capital after his historic visit to the united states during which he and president obama had the first direct talks within the representative leaders in almost 35 years. we're also learning that aside from meeting john kerry, they met with the foreign minister of argentina. because they agreed to a deal with the nation to investigate

the 1994 bombing of a jewish community center that killed 85 people. so it is a huge deal. argentina accuses iran of sponsoring that slaughter of jews 19 years ago. to the conciliatory tone extends beyond the issue of nuclear weapons. i interviewed the foreign minister immediately after his face to face meeting with secretary kerry. >> very nice to see you. this is the first big meeting like this in 35 years with the level of the foreign minister and the secretary of state. you seem optimistic about how things are going. >> i hope that the meeting and the sideline meeting between myself and secretary kerry would

be good for moving the process forward. i'm optimistic. i have to be so that we can move forward. we will test each other as we go along. >> but this first test seems to have gone well. you and secretary kerry looking each other in the eye, having a face to face, one-on-one meeting. >> well, i believe that political leaders need to be optimistic about the future and make every commitment to go for the cause of peace and i think the cause is very important for the two countries and for the world and we need to resolve this issue. i believe it's a nonissue but at least we need to remove any doubt on the peaceful nature of our program and at the same time make sure that everybody respects our right. i think this was a good beginning. i sense that secretary kerry and president obama want to resolve this and if they do, indeed, want to resolve it, it can be

resolved and it can be resolved within a short period of time. >> is this a new day? >> i hope so. >> just now i spoke on the phone with president rowhani of the islamic republic of iran. we discussed on efforts to reach on agreement on iran's nuclear program. i reiterated what i said in new york, while there will be important obstacles to moving forward, i believe we can reach a comprehensive solution. >> given the first conversation between the american and iranian presidents in almost 35 years, eric bolling is here, isn't it time to give peace a chance? >> no. they are the state sponsored terror capital of the planet. some would call them the central bank for terror. they financed the $400 million a day that they bring in through oil money, a lot of it our money that we send to them, that goes

to hezbollah, hamas, al qaeda. they traced some of the 9/11 conspire ters finances back to iran. >> i don't believe that is factually true. >> we've done this on the radio before. you keep say it's the saudis, not the iranians. do you really think it's the saudis -- >> 15 of the 19 were saudis. eric, isn't it time to give peace a chance? why not give it a chance? >> 15 of the 19 -- i think all 19 were saudis but 15 spent time in iran before they blew planes into our buildings. >> why not answer the question. why not give this opportunity a chance to play out, trust but verify, all the rest of it? why not break the log jam -- >> you want to trust the iranians? you want to trust the people who said they won't rest until

israel is wiped off the map? you can't trust these people. >> secure the future of israel to get iran peacefully to give up its nuclear weapons, eric, come on, give it a shot. >> i would think the way to secure israel's future would be for israel to take out the iranian nuclear program. it ain't about electricity, they have more oil and natural gas in that country. they don't need to be developing nukes. 4 million barrels of oil come out of that ground. >> you have a situation where you have a president speaking to a president for the first time in 35 years and the foreign minister talking to the secretary of the state for the first time in 35 years. the iranians want colored tv, new cars, the same thing americans have. they don't necessarily want a belligerent relationship. >> i had 16 friends die in the

world trade center. >> i had plenty of my own. don't play the moral high ground. >> i'm not. i looked in the faces of 16 of my friends' wives and families and said i don't know why terrorists killed my friend and your father. i have a lot of passion about it. you know why 1979 is relevant. that was the year that ronald reagan picked up the phone and said let our hostages go because if you don't there won't be anymore iran. they let the hostages go. that was the last time an american president or diplomat sat down with iran. president obama is an poll gist with islam. these are evil people. you can't negotiate with terrorists. >> you think they're inheritly evil that there is something about an iranian that makes them different than an american? some kind of cultural -- >> the iranian people are

probably very good people but the leadership -- >> the persians in l.a. own half of l.a. >> they're not good people. >> don't you make peace with your enemies, not with your friends? >> i have a hard time making peace with my enemies who killed my wife and son. >> why aren't you mad at the saudis, really about that? i have never heard you speak out about the saudis? is it because they sell their oil to the united states? >> hell no. anyone that sponsors terror or perpetrates terror or an american ally. >> now there is an effort over syria, do you agree that the iranians have played a positive role vis-a-vis sarin and the poison gas? >> no. >> i heard some american companies supplies those.

>> oh, hgeraldo. you're going to pin this on the americans when iranians have been known to sell chemical weapons? >> the iranians have been victimized about the chemical weapons that iraq used in the war. >> i wonder if you actually believe this stuff. i look at you and go -- the guys who had bullets shot over his head and knows what's going on in the military to say that maybe the americans sold -- >> america backed iraq in the iraq iran war 8 years. iraq used poison gas against iran in the war. >> i'm not defending anything that went on in iraq at all. i'm just -- i love the libertarian stance. if it doesn't have to do with america, if you didn't attack america or one of our allies, stay the hell out. it's not our conflict, our civil war, let them work it out. >> eric bolling. he's going to be with anthony

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>> it was a bitterly fought five month long wrongful death lawsuit brought by michael jackson's mother against the concert promoter she says was greedy and led her son to die of a drug overdose. the promoter says jackson was a junky. as the six man, six woman jury decides the evidence, craig has his own opinion. >> after five months of testimony it's up to the jury to decide if lawyers for the jackson estate proved that aeg live's greed was responsible for michael's death on june 25th, 2009 when they hired an incompetent dr. feel good, conrad murray, or whether the

king of pop killed himself with years of drug use. >> you have a doctor who doesn't know what he's doing, can't even do cpr, take care of the most important person in the world. >> a shocking allegations from a doctor who was accused of overprescribing drugs. dr. arnold klein. he claims jackson started using painkillers after numerous plastic surgeries performed to repair scalp injuries suffered in a 1985 fire while performing a pepsi commercial and designed michael to look younger and whiter. klein's own medical records show he used powerful opiates on jackson. the coroner says it played no role in jackson's death. the drug that killed jackson was

a drug called proep prol. >> you can't take a doctor who doesn't know what he's doing and expect him to administer proep fol. >> klein claims jackson tried to jump murray, now serving time for involuntary manslaughter in the singer's death. but the question is whether dr. murray was working for michael or the concert promoter, aeg, which jackson's family has sued for as much as $1 billion. >> i was in paris the month before he died. he called my office looking for an an theesologist. >> you told me that conrad murray was introduced to michael by his father. >> absolutely. >> here you have the jackson family suing aeg, this concert

tour promoter for hiring conrad murray when he was introduced by a jackson family member. >> he was not set up to take care of michael on an on going basis. had e couldn't take care of him in england. he wasn't licensed. if you are going to hire a physician, you want a competent physician. here's the strange thing. he owed huge amounts of debt, conrad murray. it's ridiculous. it was a setup. >> klein thinks dr. murray was the fall guy and points to this iron clad contract which holds the star responsible for financial losses if he failed to perform the 50 shows he committed to, failing to meet his commitment would have cost the artist millions of dollars. >> tell me about what you know on a personal basis about michael's psychological state during that time. >> he was not the same person anymo anymore. he was totally depressed, didn't have any energy and he was so

weirded out and i think he was overmedicated at that point. >> jackson family lawyers never dispute the singer's dependents on pain medication and allowed that jackson may be 20 percent responsible for his own death. but that means the promoter, aeg live, was 80 percent responsible, including one executive who was jackson's tour manager. the family alleges that it was aeg who hired murray for an astounding $150,000 a month, a salary that created a conflict for the debt ridden doctor. >> here's the thing. michael was addicted because he couldn't sleep. the person who got him addicted, you want something that badly you're going to find someone willing to give it to you. here the situation was they found someone totally incompetent. murray was incompetent. you don't hire incompetent doctors and don't blame it on michael's addiction because if

you do, it doesn't work. >> because it was not a criminal trial, the civil court does not need to be anonymous, just a 9-3 majority is required for ruling either on behalf of the jackson family or the concert promoter. even if the jury says the promoter was only partially responsible at stake is hundreds of millions of dollars. >> coming up a comeback for the ages after this.

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