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martha: i'm willing to share my work husband for one hour but can't have my real husband. that is where i draw the line. bill: point taken. martha: she kind of likes him too. bill: two hours of hemmer is enough. see you 1:00, and 2:00. jenna: look forward to that. we have brand new stories and breaking news. jon: the clock is talking down to an increasingly likely shut down of the federal post, the first since 1196 with two side -- 1996 with two sides very far apart and nobody blinking. bret baier with the play-by-play on what we can expect over the next two crucial hours. deadly violence over the border in mexico as drug cartels battle each other for control. stunning home surveillance video. a homeowner asleep when three masked men burst in and attack him. it is all "happening now."
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jon: welcome to "happening now." i'm jon scott. >> hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. the shut down can stop a few things but canned stop one thing. jon: what's that? jenna: you're brand new studio which we hope to share with you throughout the next few hours. if you're in new york city, come by and say hello. stand bit window. get a little coffee. we look forward toe seeing you. jon: thanks for joining us. jenna: it is certainly a bitter battle over the health care law. that is pushing the nation to something we haven't seen in 17 years. it has been a while. this weekend the house voted to delay obamacare by one year and repeal a medical device tax as part of a bill to keep the government running. the now it is up to the senate which won't come back into session until 2:00 p.m. iron time giving everyone 10 hours to
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work something out here. republicans say senate majority leader harry reid is intensionally dragging his feet, refusing to negotiate and drawing this out to the last minute to blame republicans for a shut down. senate majority leader harry reid declares the house measure dead, saying in part, quote, the senate will do exactly what we said we would do and reject these measures. at that point republicans are faced with the same choice they always faced, put the senate's clean funding bill on the floor and let it pass with bipartisan votes or force a republican government shutdown. the words are important there. republicans say reid needs to get busy if he wants to avoid the midnight deadline. >> time's awasting. midnight tonight is when it all happens. what i think he is trying to do, maximize pressure on house, wait to the very last minute and send something back to the house to force them to react. democrats and president would like to see the government shutdown. obviously we on the republican side are trying to avoid that and move stuff in timely way as
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possible. jenna: doug mckelway is live on capitol hill. doug, we mentioned the senate is not back in session for a few hours but the house is already back. has anything changed this morning to signal any sort of a break in this debate? >> reporter: wish i could say there was, jenna, but no, there doesn't appear to be that. very quiet up here in anticipation of the senate gaveling in at 2:00 p.m. we expect the standard opening prayer and expect remarks from senate majority leader harry reid. we expect him to say that he plans, this is conjecture, but it is likely, that he plans to table the two components of the house continuing resolution that democrats find abhorrent. that of course being the delay in implementation of obamacare for a year and also, the repeal of the tax on medical devices. if that happens, in all likelihood signals a government shutdown. senator richard durbin signaled as much on the sunday talk shows yesterday. here he is. >> i'm afraid, bob, that we know what is going to happen.
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tomorrow the senate will come in session. the house position which is basically the same one they sent us the last time is going to be rejected again. we're going to face the prospect of the government shutting down come midnight monday night, tuesday morning. >> reporter: if that happens, this hot potato that neither house wants to beholding come the stroke of midnight tonight will be back in the hands of the house. house majority whip kevin mccarthy indicated the republicans in the house have another trick up their sleeve. >> i think the house will get back together in enough time, send another provision, not to shut the government down but to fund it. and it will have a few other options in there for the senate to look at again. >> reporter: just what those options are he has not said but they're very strong indications that the house may provide very, very short-term continuing resolution, lasting only 24 hours or only 4hours, a clean resolution. but we're hearing from the producer up here chad pergram from multiple sources on senate side that i will will be
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rejected out of hand. jenna? jenna: yikes! also on the sunday shows, doug, there was this talk about a conference committee that sometimes is formed by both bodies to out how to compromise in smaller groups. why isn't that happening here? >> that is where the republicans are largely laying the blame at the hands of the democrats for failing to form this kind of a committee. senator rand paul says that is really the way out of this congressional intransigence. >> why don't we have a conference committee on this? you could appoint one today. they could meet tomorrow and hash out the differences. that is the way it is supposed to work. republicans and democrats are supposed to find middle ground. right now the president is saying my way or the highway. >> reporter: just moments ago house speaker john boehner gave another indication that both sides are completely dug in on this issue. he said that obamacare, he said this on the house floor moments ago, is knot ready for prime time. he said it is not ready for a rollout. another indication that they are
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dug in, very, very bad sign for the continued funding of the government, jenna. jenna: we'll see what happens, doug. a few hours left. we have the county down clock on the screen. doug mckelway live on capitol hill. doug, thanks. jon: we have several scenarios that could play out over the next few hours. we'll be watching all of them. bret baier anchors "special report" and joins us now. bret, john boehner, speaker of the house, what are his options? >> well, jon, once the senate comes back as doug mentioned they will throw this back to the house and it will be in speaker boehner's lap and there are several options as you heard from the house majority whip, kevin mccarthy. there will be something that goes back to the senate and it's likely not going to be just a clean continuing resolution. in other words something with no stipulations on it. one of the possibilities is that they pull out the one-year delay of obamacare and they just send back the repeal of this medical device tax which is also in the
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law. that was popular on the senate side with democrats and republicans by a vote of 79 senators voting to repeal that tax early they are year. and another option is to pull out congressional exemptions and waivers and subsidies for obamacare. that would also cover the administration. that would be a little tougher foredemocrats to defend voting against. jon: because they don't want to be seen as, you know, making themselves, feeding at the public trough, in other words, making available to themselves the average american can not do? exactly, americans get their head around that. why can't they be a part of this too? taxpayers are funding this. why can't they be in the exchanges as well? so i think that's, you know, it is not that popular in republican offices either but just how republicans we talked to say this is definitely an option that they could come back with towards the senate. if senator reed says -- reid
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shays nothing, no negotiation on anything, then we're one step closer to midnight. jon: the very fact that he is not even opening the senate for business until this afternoon suggests that, either he doesn't plan to negotiate or he, you know, figures the republicans are going to be hurt the most if this shutdown goes through. >> exactly. they're not exactly rushing for the doors to get into the u.s. senate to get this thing churning as the clock is ticking. so, yeah, i mean they politically see an advantage to all of this. they believe that the gop has painted itself into a corner and that they have the upper hand this time. that, you know, remains to be seen. if it somehow turns that there is absolutely no negotiation and there are viable things that the american public can get behind, or understand. a lot of this back and forth of this congressional ping-pong match, you know, the average person just doesn't get.
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jon: yeah. doesn't get and maybe doesn't care about until, you know, somebody isn't getting a check in the next week or so, you know, from the government. at the same time, the government is still collecting tax revenues, still can pay some of its bills if it chooses to, right? >> sure, yeah. there are, essentially 825,000 roughly civilian federal workers who would be furloughed in a shutdown. these are non-essential work is. they don't like to be called non-essential but technically that is what they are listed as. the essential workers would still be functioning. you still get social security checks, medicare. the post office would be working. a lot of functions of the federal government would be working but it would be noticeable. one group that will get paid 535 members of congress and the president. jon: and that is what a lot of people find hard to stomach out there, that after all of this, they still get their paychecks. bret baier, thank you very much. you can catch a lot more of bret
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tonight. he anchors "special report" each and every weekend, 6:00 p.m. eastern. tonight you do not want to miss. >> it that's a good point. bret was talking about what actually happens when the government shuts down. what exactly closes? so here's what it looks like at this point. turns out not as much as you may think. if you're receiveing a social security check, medicare check, payment or unemployment that will continue. you should be able to make your flight. weather permitting, we can't control that. tsa workers stay on the job as well as air traffic control and food inspectors and you will get your mail. essential government agencies like the fbi and coast guard will remain open for business. as jon mentioned the capitol will remain open for business. most federally funded museums and historic sites will be closed. more than 360 national parks will not be open to the public if the government shuts down. if you're a member of the military or work for the defense department, depending on your job you will be expected to show up for work.
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your paycheck will likely be delayed unless lawmakers agree on resolution to troop funding. it passed in the house. it needs to pass in the senate. we'll find out if that goes through. if you're a lawmaker you will get paid on time. if you're a soldier on the battlefield, that remains to be seen if you will get paid on time. the government shutdown is not as big of a deal as the debt ceiling debate. if some solution is not worked out this is when social security checks and troop payments and government workers ney see the most disruptions, and doesn't count the potential upheaval in the global stock market. we're seeing that today. down more than 100 points in the dow. many attribute what is going on in d.c. jon: wall street doesn't like uncertainty. jenna: it certainly does not. the next several hours are very key to this but the next several weeks are key to this as well. jon: reading history, george washington lobbying congress to pay his troops. it was very important to the first president to have that happen.
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chaos on the river thames to tell you about. a tour boat there catches fire, sending people diving into the water. the latest how the passengers are doing. the obama administration set to announce new health care options for consumers and federal employees. this just one day before health care exchanges are expected to open for millions of uninsured americans. a look what we can expect to hear from the white house today. dad! dad! katy perry is coming to town. can we get tickets, pleeeeease??? tickets? hmm, sure. how many? well, there's hannah, maddie, jen, sara m., sara b., sa -- whoa, whoa. hold on. (under his breath) here it comes... we can't forget about your older sister! thank you, thank you, thank you! seriously? what? i get 2x the thankyou points on each ticket. can i come? yep. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points on
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>> right now new information on a few international stories we're following today. dozens of fishermen are reported missing as vietnam has taken a pounding from a typhoon. more than 1,000 moemz have been damaged. 30 people were rescued after a tour boat caught fire in london.
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many of them jumped into the river. to escape the flames. women and children were hospitalized for treatment of smoke inhalation. and nine people killed and six more injured in an attack in mexico. just the latest in a spike of drug violence in the country. investigators say the assailants arrived in taxis. it's unclear if the shootings are related. jon: as the new health exchanges scramble to be ready for opening, obama administration is about to reveal new options for consumers and federal impose. joe trippe managed howard dean's campaign and is obamacare ready to roll out, joe? >> it's going to roll out on time. i think tomorrow. we'll see how it plays out but it's obviously causing a lot of concern on the hill right now in terms of shutting down the
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government and other things that are going to come into play but i think the obama administration is clearly going to push forward to matter what happens tonight. jon: that's really where we are. republicans, especially those who came in in the classes of 2010 and 2012 were elected in large part because of their opposition to obamacare. the president calls it his signature achievement. if you've got the two sides arguing, battling back and forth over this, you'll wind up with a threat of a government shut down, right? >> well, republicans have voted 41 times now to repeal obamacare and not been able to get that done because the democratic majority in the senate and the president would veto it. as you said, it's his signature accomplishment in the first term. so you're going to get to a point now, everybody knows the shutdown isn't about shutting down the government. it's about one more attempt, one
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last attempt to stop obamacare from going through and that's why i think a lot of polls are showing that the majority of americans see this as a republican shutdown. whether that's fair or not, it's hard for the republicans not to have their fingerprints on it because they've already tried to repeal it 41 time. jon: right but there are even some republicans who are saying, you know, just let this thing pass. it's damaged goods. it's not going to work and when people see that, the thinking goes, it would be be better for republicans to just come up with a new option, maybe win the white house and repeal it or change it substantially. >> i think that that's absolutely right. if obamacare is the disaster that the republicans believe it to be, and if it goes into effect and is a disaster, it seems to me as this is a
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political operative, that it would give republicans a huge advantage in the 2014 election where they might be able to pick up the senate seat to really start to make a difference on these votes to repeal obamacare. otherwise, shutting down the government, even if it is shut down, is not likely to end up with the repeal of obamacare. the president is not going to go along with ending his signature accomplishment and that's where the problem, i think, is to take it to the election not to shut down the government. i think where a lot of americans, even those who oppose obamacare, it's one of the reasons they oppose a shutdown. >> but if there is a shutdown, could voteders say to heck with both your houses or is it reps? >> i think both houses, the democrats and the republicans, but i think the republicans are going to take more of the blame.
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again, because i don't think this is seen as shutting down the government so much as attempt number 41 to stop obamacare. that's what this is really about and the republicans are the ones that want to do that. i think that's why people will fall to them if the government shuts down. jon: thanks for your thoughts. >> thanks, jon. jenna: high stakes meeting underway at the white house. another really big, important topic. israeli prime minister with a warning for the president not to fall for iran's, quote, sweet talk. we'll get into that. plus caught on tape, a sleeping homeowner attacked in his bed by three masked intruders. this dramatic video next. too big. too small. too soft. too tasty. [ both laugh ] [ male announcer ] introducing progresso's new creamy alfredo soup.
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jenna: right now israeli prime minister netanyahu is meeting with our president at the white house. high on the agenda, israel's concerns about iran with a new round of talks scheduled on the nuclear program between our country and between -- with iran. last night the secretary of state john kerry said a deal is possible but only if iran is truly serious. take a listen. >> he said he would like to have a deal in three to six months. is that possible? >> sure it's possible. it's possible to have a deal sooner than that, depending on how forthcoming and clear iran is prepared to be. we need to have a good deal here and a good deal means that it is absolutely accountable, failsafe in its measures to make certain this is a peaceful program. if it is a peaceful program, and we can all see that, the whole world sees that, the relationship with iran can change dramatically for the better and it can change fast.
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jenna: aaron david miller is a former adviser to six secretaries of state and he jon:s us with more. what do you think about that time line? after 30 years of now contact, really official contact between our two countries, what do you think about a deal with iran in three to six months? >> look. forget transformation. i don't believe in the tooth fairy on this issue or any other in the middle east these days. think about -- forget transformations. think about transactions. business deals. if, in fact, these iranians are serious, they have a set of needs and requirements and those can be reconciled with those and i might add, with israeli needs and require many which is is essentially to suspend the program and eradicate the process and time can be an ally or adversary. we'll know within the next month or so whether or not this is
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moving toward a deal that's real. if it is, then time really isn't that much of a concern. the question is, who is serious and who isn't? jenna: that gets to the broader point. do you think iran could have a nuclear weapon in three to six months? those time lines are always shifting. >> right. that's the fear, of course, that they've already or will shortly pass the breakout point where, in fact, they can pursue a weapon quickly and unbeknownst to the united states or other intelligence organizations, sure that's always a risk but the alternative is letting it lied and not trying to fix this as a consequence of talking rather than feuding. and i think that is worth something. but let's be clear here. either you're going to have a deal that's good for the united states and the israelis or there won't be a deal. and it seems to me that's a critically important point. there's no way on this issue, it's not syria, it's not chemical weapons. the president cannot dismiss a
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red line on this one. if he doesn't act, israelis will. if you think the government shutdown is wreaking havoc on wall street, wait until you see the prospects of a regional war and an israeli strike on iran with plunging financial markets and rising oil prices. so the administration really does have a stake in getting this right. jenna: i'm sorry to interrupt. the scenario that you painted is a serious one and the president is meeting with prime minister netanyahu and they're discussing this in part. are we on the same page as israel? do we have the same red lines as israel? there seems to be a little bit of wiggle room whether or not we're saying iran could have nuclear pow fer they don't have a nuclear weapon. they're saying you can't trust the iranians. >> i think the objectives are the same but look. where you stand in life is where you sit. israelis are sitting in the middle of a dangerous neighborhood and i'm not going to trivialize their concerns
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over the nuclear program so no. we cannot have the same sense of alarm and concern as the israelis do. all i'm suggesting is that this is in the american national interest to make sure this comes out right because if it doesn't come out right, israelis will be inclined to act. and through that action, they're going to trigger a set of unpredictable consequences which are impossible right now to discern where they might go. no sacrifice on the altar of american expediency. either the president gets this right or we consider the alternative, use of force. jenna: on how you saw the president handle syria, how confident are you he'll handle this in the right way? >> stakes are much higher and political constraint, the requirements are much different than in syria. with syria you're talking about
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a limited american military strike, a one and we're done. this is a much more serious issue and it's going to require a lot more depthness and diplomacy. but i think there are a lot of factors on the american side which will impel the president to make sure at the end of the day, iran's nuclear program is a peaceful one, that they have limited right to enrich, that it's closely monitored and that the military aspects of their program are eradicated unless we can guarantee that, then diplomacy is not going to work. jenna: thank you very much. we look forward to having you back. >> pleasure. jon: first it was phone calls and emails. now, according to n.s.a. leaker edward snowden, even your facebook account might not be safe from government spying. how the n.s.a. is reportedly
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funds, we have reason to be concerned with what's happening on wall street. lauren is reporting for the fox business network. joining us in our brand new studio. >> thank you for having me. jenna: we've seen the government shutdown since the 1970's. is this any different? >> this would be time number 18 so we've seen this before. i want to show you the damage on wall street today. the dow is down about 90 points but that's nothing. it was down 171 earlier this morning. so people are nervous today, yes, because if you've checked your 401k, this year you probably are up 20% because the markets have been on a tear. now it's the final day of the month, final day of the quarter and we're going into tomorrow with many people saying, you know, the economy is not that strong. we've gained so much. let's take money off the table and call it quits here. that's what we're worried about. not to mention the middle of next month, we have the debt ceiling debate. if you government the government shutdown debate with the debt limit debate, this could be
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disasterous for the markets. 1995, 1996, that was the longest shutdown we had. the market was down 3 1/2% but guess what? next month it rallied over 10% so you could say no big deal but you cannot say that now. jenna: we like looking at numbers. it gives us something instant to look at. what about main street, business as general? >> half of government workers may not have to show up for work in a couple of days. they could face furloughs. up to one million federal workers. a loft regulatory agencies may not be doing their job. if you look at passports and visas, small business loans, delays in processing. if you circle back to 1995 again, this could be puj. i do want to point out the mail will still arrive to your door and social security and medicare
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payments would go out as well. jenna: thank you. >> it's scary. jon: all right. new allegations of government spying. the "new york times" reports the n.s.a. has been using americans owe social media accounts to track their activity. it's the latest revelation information leaked by former n.s.a. worker edward snowden. shannon has it live from washington. so this personal data collection, if you want to call it that, how widespread is it? >> well, we're talking about billions of pieces of data every single day and according to the "new york times," documents provided by the former n.s.a. contractor show that the agency is sifting through them to create profiles that can give them a very clear picture of your personal life. information the n.s.a. can collect without a warrant reportedly includes the phone and email logs, bank codes, some of your tax data, facebook profile and voter registration
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roles. this is all used to create contact change that can show who you associate with, where you are at a specific time and much more. jon: and the intelligence community and house intelligence community is taking a look at this as well, right? >> we reached to the n.s.a. to get their side of the story. spokeswoman tells us n.s.a. activities are directed against foreign intelligence targets in response to requirements from u.s. leaders in order to protect the nation and its interests from threats such as terrorism and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. and here is what james clapper, director of national intelligence told senators a couple of days ago. >> what we do not do is spy unlawfully on americans or for that matter, spy indiscriminately on the citizens of any country. we only spy as authorized by law with multiple layers of oversight to ensure we do not
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abuse our authority. >> clapper says the focus remains on uncovering secret plans and intentions of foreign adversaries. but to be clear, reams of information are kept on americans. jenna: we've been watching this incredible tape of a violent home invasion. how this terrifying incident ends, we'll show you more video. also the al-assad regime on the world stage. syria speaking of the general assembly today. next we'll break down how the u.n. is dealing with the agreement to find and destroy syria's chemical weapons. ♪
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jon: happening now in california, just south of san diego, a bus crash injured 14 people happened within the last hour. the video evidence that you see on the screen there would suggest that the bus had stopped to take on passengers, maybe unload some as well and was rear ended by a vehicle that you see behind it there with a crumpled front end. so a bunch of people obviously standing up in the bus at that time, a big impact and they get knocked over. again, 14 people hurt, some of them strapped into back boards and laid out on the sidewalk. others were taken away by ambulance. how serious their injuries are, we do not know. we'll get more information and bring it to you. jenna: brand new stories next hour. american student amanda knox facing a new trial for the murder of her british roommate. she's staying put in the united
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states as court proceedings get underway in italy today. nbc launching a week long campaign to get the health care plan on the feet reminding media, next hour, and the lindsay lohan show. one of jon's favorites. moving forward without the family circus. how producers will handle her parents on an upcoming reality tv series and speaking of celebrities, two new shows to check out today. you do not want to miss it. also breaking carlson premiers at 2:00 p.m. eastern with the real stories. spend your afternoon right here on fox news. jon: a brutal home invasion. surveillance cameras caught three masked men breaking intu this home in dallas. they go straight to the bedroom and attack the homeowner while he was sleeping.
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they didn't count on the homeowner fighting back. it was over in seconds and as the attackers ran off, one without his mask, the camera got a god look at him. so far, no arrests. jenna: scary video, though. right now the syrian regime taking the world stage with the address today at the u.n. general assembly. syria's foreign minister denied the al-assad regime used chemical weapons on its own people and it will abide by a u.s. and russian deal to turn over chemical weapons. my next guest says that will be hard to enforcement the director of the documentary "u.n. me." you look at the ironies of the u.n. what do you find ironic with the situation in syria? >> where do i begin? thanks for having me on again. you know, last time -- the first time i was here, you had me in studio and the subsequent interview we've conducted, i've
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been down at the dungeon. am i supposed to read something into this? jenna: no. just new studio growing pains. we always enjoy having you on. because you've looked so deeply at the u.n. and when we read about the u.n., we brush over it. you're right. this is the u.n. that's where this is supposed to happen. with the stance on chemical weapons, why do you have concerns where this goes from here? >> you use the word irony to lead off the segment and i think the word "irony" was really created to describe the united nations. it's saturated with irony and hypocrisy and i think no greater example is having al-assad address the u.n. while he's slaughtering hundreds of thousands of his own people. i think this is par for the course for this organization and i think that the u.n. general assembly is the showcase for it all. you mentioned they had a resolution and that's nice.
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am i supposed to think problem solved? it really doesn't. jenna: that's where people say, listen. if it's not in the u.n., if we don't get together in the u.n., where are we going to get together? what do you say to critics of your point of view that says this is why the union was created. >> no question. but words are cheap, right? words are great but how does that actually concretely solve the problem? and this resolution is a perfect example of that. yeah, it sounds great. everybody a grows to it. shockingly even russia. but the reality is there's no peace to it. if they want to take concrete steps to go after the syrians, they have to go back for a resolution for use of force and russia is never going to allow that. the whole thing is the absurd. jenna: some are saying it's a victory because russia timely agreed to something. after years and years of stopping any resolution against syria, they've come to the table. is that a positive sign? >> let's give them a cookie. no. it's positive from the extent
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they're willing to have the conversation. until i see concrete steps, until i see the weapons inspectors actually cleaning out the weapons and by the way, all this time we've given them, we have reports from lebanon and iraq that they are transferring dozens of trucks out of syria into lebanon and iraq. i wonder what those trucks have? but buying time is what the u.n. gives syria and the russians are, in my view, gift wrapping that for them. jenna: final thought about humanitarian aid. that's something else that's come up in the resolution, how to get humanitarian aid to the people that are hurting in syria. based on your research, how good is the u.n. in doing that? >> they're pretty good. they're certainly better than anywhere else. they work on, certainly better in terms of security policy. if i want to nitpick on that, i probably could but it's the best thing they do and i applaud them
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for it. we should support them in those efforts. jenna: it's great to have you on. i promise next time we'll be face to face. we'll work it out. i promise. thank you. >> pleasure. jon: have you been on an airplane lately? airlines are promising now customers can get a taste of the good life. but it's going to cost you. if you want a hot meal or if you want baggage delivery, you've got those opgs for a price. we'll take a look at a new generation of fees aimed at making flying fun again. a new fitness craze has americans flocking to the gym and maybe to the chiropractor. a look at what extreme training, things like cross fit -- jenna: is this an excuse for you not to do cross fit? jon: yes. i know you're a chris fit phenom. jenna: not really. jon: not me. not yet. we'll talk about it coming up. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? no hidden fees. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things." ok, why's that? well uhhh... hey daddy, what's your job? daddy's a uhh florist.
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jenna: it's one of the most extreme workouts out there, so say the people that don't do it. i'm looking at you. there's some tough questions about a new workout and some questions about safety as well regarding cross fit. some of which you're seeing on the screen there are some exercises that people do. basically what cross fit does, it keeps your body guessing. you do a lot of different exercises every day and speed matters. the fitness craze is, in part, really telling folks to push themselves to the limit in a short period of time. could it be dangerous? doctors are worried about it so we wanted to talk to a doctor who is a pediatric and young adult sports medicine doctor at webster orthopedics in san francisco. i got that all right. we turn to you when it comes to sports stories because we want
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an expert. what is the deal with cross fit that has people so concerned? >> so with cross fit, the thing that people are talking about is this risk of with extreme exercise, you can have muscle breakdown and usually your kidnaps handle a little bit of muscle breakdown normally without a problem but with lots of muscle breakdown, you can end up damaging your kidneys and going into kidney failure and we don't want people to have that. jenna: absolutely not. do you have to be an extreme athlete to get that extreme side effect or could a regular person that just started working out, been doing cross fit or any other exercise, can they be susceptible to that? >> actually one of the groups that is most susceptible to this is the new person who is trying this for the first time who basically is just a little bit too gung-ho about activity. we see it sometimes in people
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who really give their all but who don't know when to stop. that's the key to try to prevent this is knowing when to stop. jon: this all started with scientists who wrote an essay about the problem and included the cross fit name but it's not just cross fit. even military recruits, ultra marathoners, they can run into this problem as well, right? >> right. initially i think we talked about this through the military. it was with, you know, long bouts of repetitive exercise over and over and over. circuit type training, military recruits and every couple of years there's reports of a coach who overdoes it and has their football team, wrestling team do some form of exercise that risks this type of problem but it's not unique to cross fit, although the type of exercise that cross fit promotes seems to put you in a slightly higher
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risk category than if you were just running at your own. jenna: so let's just say that jon scott does 100 squats, 100 sittups, something like that and he's feeling sore the next day. how does he know when he's truly pushed himself too much or that he needs to get back out and do another workout? >> that's a great question and that's the key question. most people after they exercise do have a good burn we talk about. there's delayed onset muscle soreness that happens after you've done an activity. it's when the soreness is really severe, when it doesn't go away, people will present sometimes with muscle swelling so usually we don't see swelling of muscle groups after activity. the other factor that you can see that doesn't always happen is a change in the color of your urine. it can look coca-cola colored or sort of a darker color. that's a sign of definitely severe injury and you should see your doctor for that. jenna: that would probably get most people's attention.
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quick final question. there's some programs for kids and cross fit. you know, pretty young. is that smart? this is not just about cross fit but i'm curious because i know you have kids. what do you think about that? >> i think that any type of exercise in moderation is god. we have such an obesity epidemic in kids who don't to want participate that this would be a good sport for a lot of people, young kids included to exercise. i think it comes down to not pushing yourself to too much of an extreme, especially at the beginning of appear -- an activity. jenna: it's always nice having you on the program. we appreciate your expertise. thank you so much. >> thank you. jenna: what do you think, jon? are you ready? jon: i'm ready. jenna: new studio, new workout. jon: but i'm not going to go to
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the point of exhaustion. will the ping-pong continue in washington? as the clock ticks down to midnight and a government shutdown, senate reconvenes very shortly. top democrats already say the republicans' plan to keep the government open is many d.o.a.
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jon: developing stories and breaking news. jenna: as the clock ticks, we get closer to a shutdown of the government. the house sends the senate a new bill delaying the implementation of obamacare for a year. we have the latest on a high stakes ping-pong match underway right now inside that dome. in the meantime, the family of the los angeles dodgers fan stabbed to death last week pleading for the public's help. right now police have no suspects in that bruths brutal murder. and a new trial for amanda knox. the american student accused of killing her british roommate in italy. a live report coming up. it's all "happening now."
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and welcome to a new hour of "happening now." great to see you on this monday. jon: in our brand new studio. i'm jon scott. we are just hours away from the federal government shutting down. supposed to happen at midnight tonig tonight, 12 hours from now as both sides show no sign of bowing down. senate majority leader harry reid called the latest funding measures from republicans pointless. it would delay obamacare for a year. democrats accusing republicans of holding the government hostage. >> senator mccain calls it irrational and yet when you see in the house is speaker boy -- boehner handled the gavel over to senator cruz these days. jon: while republicans are accusing democrats of being
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irrational and unwilling to compromise. house speaker john boehner just blasting senate democrats for taking the weekend off, this after house republicans backed off an earlier bill that would have vetted new funding for the health care law. >> the house has done its bill. we passed a bill saturday night that would delay obamacare for one year and would eliminate permanently the medical device tax that is costing us tens of thousands of jobs that are being shipped overseas. senate decided not to work yesterday. well, my goodness. if there's such an emergency, where are they? jon: senior corps respond ens for the washington examiner, he has a good question. where is the senate, david? >> this is what the argument is going to be about. senate will convene today sometime in the afternoon. they're going to reject the obamacare related methods and
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take it back to the house. who do you blame for a shutdown that revolves around a disagreement over funding for the affordable care act? obamacare? republicans are gambling that they can focus the public's attention, because they don't like the law generally and get them to blame democrats for refusing to budge, get them to blame the president and looking at how people would feel about a shutdown over obamacare, feel confident she would win the fight. jon: so republicans are offering to get a budget passed if the senate will a degree to delay obamacare implementation for one year. you say the senate will not go along with that. >> harry reid made it very clear and it's very important for democrats, based on what they've said very firmly to not allow republicans to score a win, anything that would dent the affordable care act through negotiations over the budget, the continuing resolution. i actually think if reid wanted
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to jam house republicans, he would get rid of the delay provision and send it back. a lot of republicans don't like it. democrats don't like it. it costs jobs. and he could dare republicans to, in a sense, from his point of view, shut down the government while sustaining a tax increase. i think politically, that would really help democrats but reid said there's no ray this medical device appeal is going to pass in this manner and so far his caucus is guaranteeing to stick with him and after reid needs to do is 51 votes. this is not going to be a 60-vote measure. jon: so both sides are looking at the possibility of a government shutdown here because in some ways, they like it. republicans want to prove they have done everything that they can do to try to prevent obamacare from being implemented. democrats think a government shutdown benefits them politically. >> you're correct.
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republicans who have wanted to wage the epic battle against obamacare regardless of the odds, letting this thing go into a shutdown even though they're blaming democrats for being inflexible and unwilling to compromise in this manner, it's a way they can prove to themselves and their constituents that they were willing to risk it all. and for democrats looking for an event to help them maintain control of the senate and have any chance of winning the house of representatives in 2014, they look at the polling on this and say this is the external event we need. we don't want the government to shut down. of course, that's what they're saying. but if it does, it's a fight we'll win and possibly benefit from. jon: do you see either side blinking? >> right now, no. and i believe that the prospects for a shutdown are highly likely. the question is how long does it last? what does each side do over the course of this week? and the one thing we have to be aware of, which i have not totally figured out how it
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affects things is the debt ceiling needs to be raised by october 17. otherwise, we'll default on our debt and that could be an economic calamity globally and nobody wants that to happen. so what happens with this continuing resolution could lead into the debt ceiling and how those things play together could have an overall effect how this thing resolves. jon: the last big one lasted three weeks. that time length could incorporate the debt ceiling debate. it will be an interesting 12 hours coming up. thank you. jenna: in the meantime, it looks like obamacare online marketplace will be open for business tomorrow but the start of the long awaited insurance exchange is unlikely to kick off without a hitch. it's not operational yet and adding to the confusion, some say, is the fact that there will be even more insurance choices to select. some pointed out that as a good thing, though. >> and this morning we heard the
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health and human services secretary say that even if the government does shut down tonight, those online marketplaces will go live tomorrow and that they're laid out like an easy to use shopping site. >> people can online, for the first time, look at plans side by side, figure out what is available, figure out what the premiums are and actually shop online the way you could buy a tv or pair of shoes. you've nef, ever been able to do that in the insurance market. >> now the hashtag get covered is being spread by federal agencies and officials like valerie, the senior adviser to the president who also tweeted out a link to a brand new funny or die.com video based on the tv drama "scandal" where problems were solved with obamacare. >> company health care does not cover mammograms.
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>> so go find a scandal. >> in the next year about seven million americans are expected to sign up for coverage in the new exchanges but not all the exchanges are expected to be fully ready tomorrow. "wall street journal" lists those in colorado and oregon as just two of them and also reports that software designed to calculate subsidies was only correct 2/3 of the time as recently as friday and this news comes as republicans continue to warn about this lost economic impact with one prominent senator hoping that public pressure leads to more support for delaying parts of obamacare. >> i think as time wears on, people become more and more frustrated with this. they weigh in with elected officials. there is hope and i think that's what we have to hope here, that the american people will be heard from. >> and so far, he thinks this law has only led to higher premiums and fewer jobs.
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jenna: peter, thank you. jon: take you to the white house now where president obama is about to hold a working lunch with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. of the two leaders saturday down for a high stakes meeting this morning. topic number one, iran. the prime minister's goal is to warn the president not to be fooled by the charm offensive of the iran's new president. he calls him a wolf in sheep's clothing who is still pursuing a nuclear bomb. wendall joins us from the white house. netanyahu had an interesting character sgligs of the more moderate face that iran's leader is presenting, right? >> he called it essentially a smiley campaign and made clear he's not buying it. netanyahu is more than a little nervous, though, at the warming of u.s. iranian relations. the president did speak with the iranian leader on the telephone.
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it's the first time that happened. the highest level iranian contact with more than three decades. netanyahu made it clear on his way here he doesn't buy the idea of an iranian moderate. >> i will tell the truth in the face of the sweet talk and the onslaught of smile. telling the truth today is vital for the security and peace of the world and, of course, it is vital for the security of the state of israel. >> netanyahu said that will also be his message to the u.n. general assembly when he addresses that group this week. jon: there's been focus on the personal relationship between president obama and prime minister netanyahu. they've had some problems over the years. >> it does seem a bit more cordial now, though that's probably not surprising after republicans haerped mr. obama for being too tough on israel during his first term in office and israelis have pulled back their predictions that iran
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would enter the final phase of the nuclear production sometime this year but president obama said his two critical foreign policy challenges are dealing with iran nuclear threat and overseeing an israeli peace agreement. netanyahu announced new settlements even as vice president biden was visiting his country, so reports indicate that netanyahu will bring new intelligence about iran's nuclear program here at the meeting going on now and will press mr. obama to continue the tough sanctions that have hurt iran's economy. jon: wendall at the white house where some big, big meetings are underway. thank you. jenna: we'll have more on that. meantime, there are some serious questions about the new health care law and now some major television networks are saying they're going to break down the details of the law so their
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jon: a fox news alert. attorney general of the united states, eric holder, is right now announcing the federal government is suing the folks of north carolina. this over the voter i.d. law that the state of north carolina passed. eric holder and his staff do not think much of that state law. they are going to be suing north carolina presumably in federal court over that. announcement underway right now. we'll keep an eye on it. if he makes news we'll bring you headlines. jenna: meantime, retri triatria
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amanda knox today in italy. she was found guilty in 2009 of killing her roommate. she returned to the united states after her conviction was overturned. here is the latest for us now. amy? >> amanda knox has said she won't return to italy for this trial because she simply can't risk being put back into jail, believing all along that the italian prosecutor simply had it out for her. today in court, amanda knox's lawyer did question the legality of having the case go on and on indefinite well a legal ping-pong match. both sides talked about what evidence they want to be reexamined in this trial or this continuation of the trial, what aspects of the case need to be revisited. knox was originally arrested and convicted with her then
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boyfriend for the murder of her house mate. the supreme court has said it wants the original theory of a drug fuelled sex game gone wrong reexamined. knox and her boyfriend won their original appeal in 2011 with their defense pointing to real problems with the forensics work in this case. so essentially, the argument was there was no evidence putting the two at the murder scene, no murder weapon resovred and no motive established. the lawyer said today the court should not waste time revisiting forensic and other evidence that can't at this point possibly be reliable. prosecution wants further d.n.a. testing done on a kitchen knife found in the apartment that had knox's d.n.a. on the handle. k kircher's on the blade. prosecution believes this is at least one of the murder weapons used. as we speak, one person is in jail for the murder and a lot of people believe this had to be the work of more than one person
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because her body had 40 stab wounds on it.it was an incredib murder as we've gone over many times. now, if, in fact, this continuation of the trial, the second appeal finds amanda knox guilty, she can then appeal again. at that point if she's found guilty, italian court could request extradition back to italy but all sorts of legal experts are saying it's not likely to happen. she already has been through trial once and also there could be, in the eyes of the americans, a double jeopardy situation. jenna: a lot to watch for. thank you very much. jon? jon: a chilling report out of america's intelligence community. why the leak of an imminent al qaeda plot may have done much more damage than anything revealed by n.s.a. leader edward snowden and why it might strengthen the terrorists who want to kill as many americans as they can. former home land security chief joins us with his thoughts.
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jon: right now investigators in california are trying to piece together the facts of a los angeles dodgers fan was stabbed to death after a game last week outside the san francisco giants stadium. the father of jonathan denver pleading for anyone who might have shot the incident on a cell phone come forward. police arrested a suspect but
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that person was later released. patti ann brown has more. >> as you say, 24-year-old dodger fan jonathan denver was stabbed to death after a giants game on wednesday. the man suspected of stabbing him, michael montgomery, was released from jail after two days. the district attorney said there's not enough evidence to charge him. san francisco police are continuing their investigation and yesterday, denver's father spoke in front of the stadium's willie may's statue asking anyone who saw or recorded the fight to contact authorities. >> understand how incredibly difficult this is and has been for me and my family. losing a child is a heart ache. no parent should have to endure. my son robert lost his best friend and brother. >> he was loving, caring and kind. he was always there for friends
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and family. his laughter was everything. and what a smile he had. >> this smile. >> john was a great friend, never passing judgment and consistently treated others with dignity and respect. jenna: and that was the victim's aunt. but montgomery's father says his son was acting in self defense and it's not clear who started the fight. a somber reminder of another incident two years ago. giants fan bryan stowgreeted the crowd yesterday. he suffered a beating after the stadium. he requires 24-hour care which his family says is not covered by insurance so during the past three games, the giants donated $10 from each ticket sold to bryan stow. jon: thank you. jenna: "happening now" a
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chilling report on the intelligence community and where we stand now. the leaked plot of an imminent al qaeda attack is reportedly causing more damage to america's intelligence gathering than the thousands of classified documents leaked by american fugitive edward snowden who is in hiding somewhere in russia. "new york times" reporting today that the intelligence community is reporting a sharp drop in chatter among terrorists since word leaked of communications between the head of al qaeda and the leader of the al qaeda branch in yemen. that intercepted communication triggered the shutdown of american embassies across the muslim world last month. the former secretary of homeland security and chairman of the chertoff group, nice to have you with us. >> great to be on. jenna: beginning of august, what we first learned august 1 from the state department is that there were going to be massive closings of embassies around the world and then the reports came out from this travel alert the next day to americans.
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the reason why, because of an al qaeda threat. was that mishandled in any way? how else can you get that information out there to the public if these are the steps that need to be taken? >> i think you could have put out an alert and we can debate whether closing 19 embassies was the right response but you could put out a travel warning without revealing specifics about how you know something is going to happen. and the intelligence community has a lot of experience with that. when i was in office, we often put out information without revealing the sources and methods. jenna: so for this situation, where do you think it is that this one report caused so much damage when there's tens of thousands of documents out there from someone that had intimate knowledge of what our intelligence gathering really looked like? >> i think in this case, it's the specificity of the report. you know, the report, and i can't confirm that it's accurate, identified a particular way in which a communication was intercepted and that's exactly the kind of
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thing that if the enemy sees that, is going to alert them to change the way they conduct their business. that's why there's always a great deal of sensitivity about sources and methods. much of the stuff that snowden has leaked, although damaging, has not been at the level of specificity of this particular piece of information and that may be why it doesn't seem quite as damaging. but to be honest, we haven't seen the full fallout yet and there may be fallout in terms of compromising our intelligence across a wide range of areas. jenna: and that's something that the report talks about, it would take months for someone to look like tens of thousands of documents about how we gather information where this was an instant sign to the enemy. we're listening to you. we know what we're doing and we're on to you. the report also suggests there's some encrypted correspondence between different al qaeda operatives, that that's one way they're using to communicate and they're also going back to courier services. maybe they never left that but
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something else that they're using. if that's the case, how good are we at intercepting those messages if it's not over text or phone? >> the good news i think the u.s. intelligence community is quite adaptable but there's a cost involved and a delay in adapting when the enemy takes a new approach to communicating. encryption has always been an issue and there were reports, again, that were leaked out about efforts to break encryption and to be perfectly honest, that's what we want the intelligence community to do. we don't want to give criminals and terrorists an ability to communicate with impunity but it's more challenging to deal with encrypted communications, with couriers and although there are ways of ultimately getting information, all of these changes cost us time and cost us money. jenna: are we left safe then today? >> no question these leaks are impairing our ability to protect
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ourselves and to get early warning of the kind of events like the gas leak, tragedy we saw in kenya or what we saw in the boston marathon so people need to understand, this isn't about playing games. this is about the only way in which we can warn ourselves and stop something before it results in a terrible loss of life. jenna: secretary chertoff, thank you so much. >> good to be on. jon: a major news network is seeing some questions raised about its objectivity. nbc news airing a special series on obamacare as those insurance exchanges kick off tomorrow. is this news coverage or does it cross the line into advocacy? we'll analyze what they're doing. plus lindsay lohan back in the spotlight sitting down for a high profile interview with oprah. fox news has the 411 ahead.
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will help folks enroll in the exchanges set up under the health care law where millions of uninsured americans will be able to buy health plans. alan colmes is host of the alan colmes show a syndicated radio program. author of, thank the liberals for "thank the liberals for saving america." jim pinkerton, contributing editor and writer for the "american conservative" magazine both are fox news contributors. alan, we know the president has been barnstorming around the country trying to get americans to sign up for his signature law. now nbc news will be doing essentially the same thing, trying to promote obamacare. is that crossing the line? >> well, no. one thing, as though they are promoting gravity. it exists. it is real. it's here. it is not like nbc -- "weekly standard" by the way a conservative publication, which is anti-obamacare acting as if nbc is acting as advocacy journalism place to go and promote -- they're not promoting
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obamacare. they're doing what the media should do. explain what it is. it is instructional. it is not advocacy. jon: mr. pinkerton sees it a little different. >> probably. >> look if nbc wanted to run public service announcements, don't take drugs, don't litter, only you can prevent forest fires it would still be a choice. not as if nbc lift ad finger to help president bush on some of his new initiatives like no child left behind or medicare part-d. global war on terror. they didn't do anything on those. if you go further into the, nancy schneiderman watched segments, we watched some of them on the air, they are pure propraganda. want more information go to healthcare.gov or "nbc news." running content on both places. >> not for, information, my god. jon: alan, one of republican criticisms of new law it will be unworkable, if nbc is spending
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so much time and effort to promote it how are they takeing a honest look whether it will work? >> they're not promoting it. they're explaining it. the whole verbiage is not explaining what is going on. global war on nbc did a lot of coverage of the global war on terror. this is not as if, i hope obamacare passes. i hope we get it through, this is advocacy. obamacare exists. this is attempt on the part of the media, because it is complicated to explain to people exactly what they need to do come october 1st. >> global war on terror existed too and nbc didn't run segments saying here is how you can help. >> what? >> news busters -- >> another right winger anti-obama organization. >> people can judge for themselves. in the spirit of fair and balanced nbc is not saying here are the pros and cons of obamacare. >> no, they're not. >> this is wonderful program you should be part of it. nancy schneiderman, as news
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busters chronicled, anybody can go on the website, see for themselves is definition of crusading liberal. touting national health insurance. >> the question is nbc is doing explanatory pieces to inform people, whatever her personal politics are, have nothing to do with it. >> but they're not showing both sides of the argument. news, alan is showing both sides of argument. >> not to use obamacare? what is the other side? >> argument is better way to do it. maybe there is a better plan. >> this is not about debating policy, that would be the whole point. here's the policy. it exists. here is what you do as citizens. jon: but if they say we'll help you enroll, encourage you to enroll -- >> good pour people. they need to enroll if they want --, people that need to enroll are 10 to 15% of the population who don't have coverage already and inform people how to go about doing that. is a good idea. >> my question, alan, is, if obamacare does not prove to be
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very workable, are you going to see that store covered on nbc? >> i bet you would. i bet you would. conservatives, if it is not going to work, if it is so horrible, let it not work. >> i guaranty, nancy schneiderman will not show the downside of obamacare. she never has. never will. jon: alan colmes, jumpinger to be. >> thank you. jenna: talk to our friends. you want a breather? >> you guys take a break. jenna: got a lost fire going on there the two of you. not underestimating it. >> thanks so much, nice. hi, everyone. we're super excited. we hope you will join us for the launch of our new show today. what a big day we're starting. >> with all the news going on. it's a new day. this is exciting day. we'll have a ton of breaking news at top of the hour. a lot moving in washington that folks need to hear about. >> absolutely. plus we will always be on the look out for the latest important crime stories today. today we'll what is happening
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with amanda knox. >> crazy story. we'll bring a few funny bites we found, we think they're funny. we'll see whether or not you agree. >> we have to get ready for the show. jenna: alisyn, did bill get the coffee yet? >> that is part of the deal, jenna. >> he has not gotten my breakfast. >> go with it. >> he claims there's a bagel in there for me. jon: hem hears a great sense of humor, if he thinks it is a funny story -- >> right on, jon. it is called, "america's news headquarters. the hq kicks off. jenna: we'll look forward at 1:00 p.m. also 2:00 p.m. we have another new show making its new debut today. the real story with gretchen carlson. a lot of things happening today. jon: a great week here at fox news channel. there are new worries in america's closest ally in the middle east on our commitment to stop iran from getting the bomb.
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can president obama convince israel's prime minister that the u.s. will hold fast? we will analyze some of the simmering tensions next. plus less than 12 hours to go now until the lights go out on capitol hill, unless some kind after last minute budget deal is reached. our continuing coverage continues right here.
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jenna: there are growing concerns in israel that the president may be wavering in his commitment to prevent iran from geting a nuclear bomb as he pursues a diplomatic option with iran's new president. these concerns top the agenda at the white house today. there's a meeting happening between president obama and israeli president, prime minister bebe netanyahu. the prime minister is expected to warn the president that iran's new charm offensive is just a ploy. as the united states should not be fooled by this speaking last hour on "happening now", aaron david miller a diplomat with vast middle east experience says the u.s. still has israel's back
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even as the stakes get higher. >> no betrayal of israel on this one. no sacrificing israeli interests on the alter of american expediency. either this president gets it right we all consider the alternative which is the use of military force. jenna: michael hanlon, senior fellow on foreign policy studies from the brookings institution. nice to see you again. >> likewise. jenna: we're waiting to get the tape playout we get from the two world leaders. we'll hear a little bit about the conversation they're having today. what is at stake here? >> i agree with mr. miller's main point. i don't see any reason to think president obama is somehow waiverring in his commitment to make sure iran doesn't get the bomb. and i think quite clearly, what he is trying to do see if there is a way to test the sincerity of president rouhani. bebe net yaw has to be a little careful. i understand his skepticism. that is reasonable to voice.
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to say he is sure this is all just a charade by iran, that is not very helpful and that is not really very empirical. there is no way to know that we'll have to test this. we'll have to test it through serious negotiations. making sure any agreement would have to be verifiable and would only lift sanctions as there is compliance by iran, not in advance of compliance. if we keep to those basic, simple, common sense tests i think we'll be okay going forward to avoid pitfalls mr. netanyahu is worried about. jenna: to get an idea of concern by israel and watching trip by the prime minister. i want to read one line from one article this sums up what i read today. the united states and europe are desperate for a face-saving situation to avoid confrontation with the iranians. that is one perspective. how do we brick that perception? do we need to in the effort to make sure that we treat our ally and also get the best possible outcome?
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>> i think you've done a great job sort of highlighting the race israeli worry, anxiety and maybe even to some extent paranoia although if i was israeli i would have similar concerns. the bottom line any agreement will have to stand the test of logic and verifiability. so, for example, if iran had to give up/4 of its centrifuges and promise not to enrich uranium above a certain level with inspectors on the ground to verify that, give up uranium already enriched and which lift sanctions is that a reasonable proposition and deal we begin to discuss. it has to involve real restraint and reductions in the enrichment and actual stocks of enriched-uranium. only then the sanctions get lifted if we think of it in those terms we make sure we don't get lulled or lured something that would be a mistake. jenna: interesting as you're talking, i'm getting headlines out of the meeting between the prime minister and president and
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president obama according to reuters it is clear iran's words are not sufficient. they must give the international community confidence with their actions, some of the things you highlighted michael. the u.s. is entering into negotiations with iran with a clear eye and will consult closely with israel. we're awaiting the tape playout we'll hear from the prime minister tomorrow, i can't help but we're talking about the possibility of war in the middle east again to think about the 60,000 troops we still have in afghanistan right now. we're still very much at war there. i know you've been there so many times. how would you place this one debate, what happens with iran, this year, 2013, in its importance and priority to our national security? >> that's an excellent question and doesn't get asked enough. i think that if we wound up havinguse force against iran it would be probably the most consequential foreign policy decision of mr. obama's entire eight-year presidency. that would be my best guess. i don't think it would end with
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a one-off. iran would retaliate with limited forms of terrorism and there would be heistenned degree of tension and low-grade ongoing hostilities in the broader persian gulf perhaps for many years to come. is. i also think sanctions would be essentially lost at that point. countries would be not willing to enforce them. iran would have the opportunity to kick out inspectors and develop a secret nuclear weapons site where it would enrich uranium. that's what i think would happen if we use force. i have don't think it is the end of the world. it is probably more consequential than what we're doing in afghanistan. for mr. obama to focus on domestic priorities and recover the economy. if what i said happens, oil prices are probably going up for a couple years. jenna: michael, always great to have you on the program. thank you so much. >> my pleasure. thank you. jon: well here's news for you. lindsay lohan is finally out of rehab, back in front of the cameras but trouble might be brewing already for lindsey's new reality tv show.
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we'll tell you why. a live look at the dow as investors worry about a looming government shutdown. wall street not too happy about that. it is just south of our midtown studio, but gridlock in washington could soon be felt on the main street in your town.
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jon: get ready for some new fees coming soon to major airlines. these you might actually like if you're willing to pay extra for more comfortable flight. patti ann brown, live from the new york newsroom with more. patti ann? >> reporter: airlines are offering first class perks to coach passengers for extra fees. for example, you can pay extra to board early or have access to a quiet lounge in the airport or upgrade to an aisle seat, seat
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with extra leg room or one with an empty seat next to it. some earnings are renting apple ipads, preloaded with movies or paying to get a first class hot meal in coach. some airlines let you skip baggage claim and have the luggage delivered to your home for a 30-dollars fee. for passengers the a la carte menu allows them to buy luxuries they want without paying for others they don't need. for airlines the fees help keep them profitable. airlines operate on a narrow profit margin and the fares don't cover their cost. the average fare increased just over 3% for the past decade but cost of jet fuel nearly tripled. hiking fares deters air travel so the airlines are adding optional fees and they are not subject to the 7.5% excise tax on base fares so it costs passengers less than raising fares while giving them choices. the choices are offered in many ways, not just during booking but in follow-up emails, check-in and even on the mobile
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phone minutes before boarding. in the future the airlines plan to customize their offers based on your previous choices, jon? jon: how much are they charging for a bag of peanuts, do you know? >> reporter: that i couldn't tell you. jon: they will get around to that soon enough. patti ann, thank you. >> thanks, jon. jenna: a little bit of trouble between the so-called love-fest between lindsay lohan and oprah. yet they have that exclusive interview together. jon watched it. hung on every single word. jon: yes. jenna: i as apparently smooth behind the scenes. julie anirvan banerji is -- dan bear as with more. >> where to begin. there was actually exclusive interview. oprah admitting almost pulled the plug on lindsey's show on the o network. the sit-down chat between the queen of talk and queen of rehab, is first time we heard from lindsay lohan since her latest round of rehab, filmed four days after lohan left her
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6th rehab. the interview was the start of winfrey's even lohan network programing. includes a reality series about the attempt to get back on track. the network has struggled in ratings but since seen a bum rather. so lilo help boost viewership even more? if she behaves. turns out oprah almost pulled the plug on the show and threatened to cancel it because there was too much chaos surrounding the troubled starlet. she confronted lohan at her house face-to-face to make sure she was serious about being sober and if not she would shut down the show set to air in 2014. it was decided the show was to go on. not all the low hands are welcome. "tmz" is reporting that the executive decision was made by the shows's producers that her parents, michael and dina not appearing in single scene. their names will not be mentioned either. no one will be bringing up
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dina's bwi arrest earlier this month. producers wanted it best to stay away from the lohan family circus and focus on the recovery. no clown cars being pulled over and given breathalyzer. jenna: at least for now. julie, thank you. we'll be back with more.
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>> a pig gets drunk as a skunk and terrorizes a camp site in australia. they woke up to it find a bore drinking his way through 18 cans of beer. >> ferrel pigs are a problem and this one when he was drunk was a handful. he got in a fight with a cow and hit campers cars and he passed o out under a log.
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did you drink that many cans of bore? >> i can say like other nows store tore but not with pigs. >> it is what happens when her husband's friends come over. >> that can't be a tribute anywhere. >> america's nows with bill and allison starts right now. >> what is your vision for the show? . look it is the hot time of day. breaking news and you have news makers and all of the stuff going on. >> and i want to do water cooler stories. >> right, right. what time do we do the show? >> 1 o'clock on the east. >> 1 o'clock. sister we have to roll. save that baggily. >> oh my gosh. >> lose that curler in your hair.

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