>> the republican party is at risk of becoming a regional party. we have been seeing this trend. and if the republican party continues to fight the fight they can't win -- >> thank you all. give yourself a big hand, that is all the time we have left. greta is up next. tonight, two bikers under arrest. that is, after a wild pack of motorcyclists terrorize a young family, chasing their suv all over the highway, one motorcycle cuts off the suv, causing a collision, next, the rest of the cyclists come to a complete stop on the highway, blocking the suv's path. and then when some of the bikers start to attack the range rover, it takes off bouncing over at least another motorcyclist. the motorcyclist gives chase, forcing the suv to stop near the george washington bridge. next, the cyclist rips off the

motorcyclist's door, forcing the chase again. he pullins off the highway and gets stuck in traffic. but it gets worse. the video shows the bikers using helmets to smash the driver's window, police say the bikers pulled the driver of the suv and brutally beats him. now, it all happened in front of the driver's wife and 2-year-old daughter, we'll have much more on this just minutes away. but first, pointing fingers, almost poking each other in the eye. he will negotiate with syrians, with russia, but he will not negotiate with americans if they happen to be republicans. >> there is only one way when it comes to harry reid and barack obama. it is their way. >> the republicans in congress chose to shut down the federal government. >> it is not the republicans that shut down the government. it is barack obama and harry

reid. >> they demanded ransom just for doing their job. >> the government is being held hostage, this government shutdown is a disgrace and a waste of the american people's time. >> stand up for your country. stand up for america, stand with us this evening and keep this government going. >> this has to end. >> if he wants to be king barack obama, then we might as well go home and then let him be king. >> you own this, this is your shutdown. this represents an absolute failure of your leadership. >> we wouldn't be forced to choose between parks, cancer research, disease control. >> we are not going to let these world war ii vets used as political pawns. >> harry reid is responsible for the government shutdown, harry reid knows that obama care is bad for the country. it is the democrats who want the government shutdown. >> so who is to blame? and is there any way out of this mess? karl rove joins us, nice to see you, karl. >> great to see you.

>> do we get out of this mess? >> well, look, the first question is not as much of a consequence as the second. the poll had the republicans being blamed by a 39-36 margin versus the democrats. but compare that to 1995 where there was a 19% disadvantage for the republicans, not a 3% disadvantage. >> and why the difference? >> i think a couple of reasons, one, the biggest one is that the president was more unpopular than bill clinton. he was reasonably popular, seen as somebody trying to solve the problem. this president is a highly polarizing figure with negative ratings. remember, people looked forward to him being somebody who would cooperate, negotiate, lead by bringing consensus. less than half of the american people believe it today. 40% of people who believed he would bring us together, do not

believe that now. and that is not strong. >> how do we get out of this mess? >> look, i don't understand why the president didn't take what the house got last night. i don't understand why harry reid didn't take what they offered last night. >> well, because now they basically bloodied the nose of the republicans. >> in politics, you always want to give your opponent an out. if they had done it last night, they could say look we got the republicans to come off this de-fund thing. and sure, we gave them two things that were enormously popular. they have two things here, remember, they said we have given these corporations a $14 billion break by ending the employer mandate for a year, the requirement that companies purchase insurance or pay a fine. the -- i was having dinner tonight with the senator wyoming. he believes that the number is $15 billion, is the cost of the individual mandate delay for a year. so the administration is saying we'll give a break, $12 billion to corporate america, but we're

not going to give a similar break to individuals and families. $15 billion. we're not going to do that. the second thing is that the administration and thes are now defending the idea that we pass the affordable care act, obama care, and the president gives a carve-out, a special set of privileges to congress. you get a special set of subsidies. you don't have to live under the law that the rest of the country has to live under. bloomberg did a poll last week, by a margin of 2-1, the american people favored giving the individual mandate a year's delay. i haven't seen testing on the second one, congress, how to live under the same laws as the rest of the country, i bet it is 9-1. you would have members of congress and their immediate families and staff and their families. and that is about it on the don't do that side. so the president could have taken these two winners. now, instead what he has done, he and the democrats have given the republican candidate, particularly in the background

senate states a tool to say you know what? senator kay hagan, senator mary landrieu, the senator in alaska voted to protect this special privilege for congressmen. and they voted, while they supported the president in his action, giving a $12 million break to corporations by delaying the employer mandate. they want to put their hand in the pocket of the american families to the tune of $15 billion by not allowing them to have the same year delay that they're giving the companies. >> you know, i think the american people want a level playing field. and i think that whatever reasons there are for any decisions by the president, it doesn't look fair, when someone, and this is the congress, passes a law and gives themselves an exception. the same reason why the corporations and the unions got this waiver for a year is

because they have lobbyists crawling all over this town and they have power. and the small businessmen, who can't afford a lobbyist who has a small business of less than 15 employees, he or she doesn't have access, doesn't have any special deals. that doesn't seem fair. >> look, in the short run the president is going to gain from this. but over the course of the next 14 months, what is going to happen is every republican candidate is going to be able to stand up and say here is what the president is in favor of. you and i are in a different place. >> whatever happened to the little guy? >> why do they give the corporations -- >> because if he gave the year's delay, what happened is a lot of companies who might otherwise dump their employees into the exchanges might have dumped the existi existing coverage, said let's hold on to it for a year. >> why would the corporations not do it a year from now?

>> well, because the weird provision in the law allows you to take your contract and carry it all the way into 2015, even if your health insurance coverage ends in march or april you could sign a contract this year that would carry it into 2015. so they say let's see what else is happening before we make this decision. we could keep our current policy and extend it until 2015, let's do it. the president said i don't want a bunch of companies, i have too many of them dropping their coverage. we've seen in the last years with them dropping their current retirees and spouses, the president said i don't want this politically in the mid-term elections. let's reduce the companies and their coverage by giving them a year's delay. >> except every democrat is going to vote if they care more about the lobbyists than the little guy. >> this is a note that can be struck by the candidates next year. let's put this in an even bigger frame.

the president's purpose has less to do with obama care than it has to do with trying to gain the power over the budget resolution and the debt ceiling fight to do two things. one is to dramatically increase federal spending. the house budget is at the level agreed to in july, 2011 in the budget agreement. the senate democrat budget includes a trajectory to spend nearly $5 trillion over the next ten years, starting with $100 billion over the coming year, a trillion of that in the next year would be off by a trillion in new revenues, taxes, but they want to dramatically increase the federal government and the president supports that. the president wants to get in a place in mid-november where he is able to get a big deal that involves the balance of the fiscal year, and the debt ceiling where he gets a trillion dollar increase in the debt ceiling with no offset in the spending reductions and a dramatic offset in the increases, and a path that includes dramatically higher

spending. >> all right, karl, i want to ask you about something today in washington, the group of combat veterans, almost 200 vets from mississippi and iowa, passing by the barricades to keep their comm commitment to visit the memorial. how are your thoughts? >> these men stormed more man e and fought in world war ii, i wouldn't keep them out of the memorial. i thought it was interesting tonight. the house republicans thought they would try the gambit, of let's go ahead and fund the veterans and the parks department and let's provide the funding for the d.c. government. and they did it on the suspension calendar, which means they have to get two thirds vote for each one of them. they got all the republicans and some democrats to come up with the vote. came up 21 short on the parks and came up 34 short in funding

the d.c. government. now, what is going to happen tomorrow when they're able to go through the normal procedure on wednesday and -- wednesday and thursday and pass a rule to take up these measures. bring them back up. they will pass them through the house with a significant number of democrats and send them over to the senate. and have a second day where they are looking like they're not trying to arrive at a solution. now, i'm not suggesting it will be a political winner for the republicans, but the republicans are wisely taking this week t y diminish the negative impact, this will make the democrats look out of touch and intransigent and ugly. >> you know, talking about that, i wonder when the veterans think about what is going on, on capitol hill, and there is no sort of -- there is such an ugly

war going on there, it must look pretty petty to these men who risked everything and probably lost brothers and fathers and saw the worst. >> yeah. >> i wonder what they think. >> yeah, there is an interesting speech given today on the floor of the senate by lamar alexander, i think it is up on youtube. people ought to take a look at it. where basically it admonishes the president and senator reid for taking the attitude they have had. he said look, our responsibility, the founders knew that there would be controversy and deep disagreements. and they created a system of government with checks and balances and they expected us to try to resolve it in an orderly fashion. and you, mr. president, doing what you're doing, and you, senator reid doing what they're doing are not helping to bring about a resolution. >> i think the democrats would say it is the tea party element voting against them. they say the law was passed whether it is unpopular or not. and that they would say the same argument back.

>> the history of our country is replete with laws that ultimately get removed from the books. that is not an unusual procedure. >> i'm well aware of that. see many of the arguments i hear, it is amazing how the other side makes the same argument. >> there is no argument possible here. the republicans said okay, we have made our position known. we will appoint conferees to a meeting to sit down and discuss it with you. and harry reid says we're going to table your motion and ignore the call to negotiate this. >> i think harry reid, the former boxer, has the knockout punch, where he may be a good fighter, but not a good leader. >> i think he has been hit too many times as a former boxer. this was a stupid move on his part. he should say sit down, let's try to get a practical

resolution. you don't act like a school yard bully. >> i wish they could rise above the bad blood and take a deep breath. let me ask you about something else. say it is the launch of the obama care exchanges, and carl, you tweeted what? people having problems signing up for obama care this a.m.? re-tweet if you are not surprised. >> i had an interesting meeting last week with the executive of a major health care company who said basically we are deeply concerned they -- we have no evidence that they can accurately forecast what the premiums are. so people are signing up, based on a premium, and in all likelihood the premium they're getting quoted is less than what they will be charged. >> but i thought a deal is a deal, when you sign up for a certain price they can raise it on you? >> no, because the government software is not generating the real price. it is also creating difficulty. if it is too high, it is one

problem, if it is too low, it is another problem. it has to be accurate. otherwise people are not going to be making an informed decision. we have states, including in colorado and oregon, where you can go look at your options but can't sign up on line. we have states, virtually every state, where they take your application on line and then print it after. the government awarded a $1.2 billion contract to a company here in washington, d.c. to take the printed applications, and get them entered into a system that allows you to check for eligibility -- >> who got that contract? >> they're celebrating in that corporate headquarters. >> who got that contract? who got that contract? >> i have never heard of the name of the company before, doesn't mean that it isn't a big company. but $1.2 billion. >> okay, here is the 1.2 billion. you know what i don't understand, the government gave the irs how many hundreds of millions to help roll out this

tax for obama care. they have lost $67 million, misplaced. and so now we're supposed to give them more money to do whatever they're want to do. at least explain the $67 million before you ask for more. >> and isn't it funny that the auditors and the accountants at the irs can't tell you where the money went. look, there is a data hub that is supposed to collect from all of these sources, the individually run exchanges and federal exchanges, and check them against data bases, are you a u.s. citizen? homeland security. are you employed? various data bases, what is your income level, you know, irs and so forth. that data hub does not work yet. and they have had 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013 until the first of october to get it up and running. >> have you ever tried to get a driver's license? >> in texas it doesn't take much

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speaker boehner and his band of tea party radicals have done the unthinkable. >> republicans shut down the government because of unreasonable, irrational tea party wing. >> a small group of tea party republicans has taken our country hostage. >> one faction of one party in one house of congress in one branch of government shut down major parts of the government. >> we have to prevent the tea party republicans and those people in the house from taking us backwards. >> we have a situation where we have a good day of the anarchists. why? because the government is closed. >> less than 24 hours since the government shutdown, the tea party taking the most of the blame. tea party express chair amy kramer joins us, nice to see you. >> hey, great to see you, greta,

thank you for having me. >> greta, obviously, many on capitol hill were pointing at senator ted cruz and senator mike lee, and using this term "tea party," because a lot of them consider themselves an adjunct of them, do you consider yourself a part of this move? >> no, it was the tea party who helped elect them. they definitely are conservatives. we are all in this together. you know, the attacks are coming at us. but greta, it is nothing that we're not used to. it has been going on for four years, and we're used to being called these names and everything blamed on the tea party movement. but you know what? that is what happens when they can't have a discussion on the issues. it is the personal attacks. you know, if obama care is so good, then let's have a discussion on the merits of obama care. but they can't do it. so what do they do?

they resort to attacks. they accuse us of shutting the government down, but harry reid is responsible for shutting down the government. >> is the term anarchists, irrational, there is a whole list of terms, is your upset, your response, however you want to characterize it, does it add more to your numbers? are you people joining you? people running from the tea party? >> no, i mean, people are joining us because they see what is going on. the american people do not want obama care. and this law was passed without one republican vote. it is not a good law. and polling shows that americans are turning on it, the more that they find out about it. and we're just standing on principle. and these guys -- campaigning to do exactly what he is doing. the house conservatives leading the fight in the house, they campaigned to do the same thing. and it is what their constituents want. so more and more people are joining us, especially if they

found out how the law is going to affect them. >> any politicians serve at risk by the tea party in 2014 in light of what is going on in the last week here in washington? have any sort of votes of republicans or even democrats that you thought were sort of aligned with tea party principles, are they now at risk? >> well, i mean, i'm sure that there will be some you know that their constituents will decide to go after them and defeat them. but look, you know, one of the things everybody keeps saying. what about these moderate or squish republicans that are calling out the tea party? greta, it is no surprise to us. they're part of the problem. greta, it is no surprise that tea party became a movement because they were frustrated with both sides. they contributed to the out of control spending and big government, these regulations as well. so i am sure that come election time we'll see some of them voted out. >> i have seen a couple of republicans call out the tea party.

>> right, of course. but greta, you know why? because we are a threat to their power base. their structure, we're more of a threat to the republican party than we are to the democrats. and you know, it is the same thing with governor sarah palin and alan west. the reason they don't like us is because they can't control us. but when we work for their cause, you know, like in 2010, 2010 wouldn't have happened without the tea party movement. but the republican party likes to claim credit for it. so they like to claim credit when we do the good things, but then if they're not controlling us they like to call us out. washington likes to have everything in control. and they don't like what is going on right now. they want to be part of that good old boy go along to get along club. that is what got us into this mess. we're not going to stand for it. and thankfully, ted cruz, and louis gomer, standing up and fighting for the american people. finally we have somebody

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a group of bikers chasing a family on the highway. all starting with the bikers swarming the family's range rover. then one motorcyclist cuts off the suv, causing a collision. next, the rest of the cyclists come to a complete stop on the highway blocking the suv's path.

when some of the bikers start to attack the range rover, they take off bouncing over at least one other motorcyclist. the cyclists give chase, forcing them to stop over the bridge. then the motorcyclist rips open the door, forcing the driver to take off again. later, the truck gets stopped in city traffic. the bikers then use the helmets to smash the driver's window, police say the motorcyclists pulled the driver from the vehicle and brutally beats him. this all happened in front of the driver's wife and children. but the biker who first cut off the suv is under arrest. the biker who attacked the driver is under custody, and police are trying to find more suspects. what a mess. >> yes, what a mess. >> i worked at a personal injury law firm where a biker went through a green light, a guy in a truck ran the red light.

broke our client's neck from the waist down, paralyzed. the lawyers in the firm didn't want the case because the jurors can't stand people on motorcycles. they go to work, go around them, they're very aggressive, put them in prison, this occurred in front of the wife and child, it is amazing they didn't have post traumatic stress disorder. >> this is as bernie said, this is terrifying. this guy, i don't know -- what i would want to know in this is what happened that started this? what happened at the beginning. i don't think we have the whole picture yet, but the picture we do have are some vigilantes, taking the law into their own hand. as a result of this, i don't think this guy should be charged if everything looks the way it looks. this guy was protecting his family. >> he has not been charged. i mean, you are right on the video. looking at this, it looks like the motorcyclists pass, they're a bunch of dogs trying to hurt somebody and hacksaw in, and

everything else. but we don't -- i mean, the tape starts, we don't know what happened on the earlier part of the tape. but based on what we can see, these motorcyclists are in deep trouble. >> and they should be, i mean, can you imagine a 2-year-old child in the back seat and you got a helmet and you're trying to smash the glass in. >> >> how about pulling some guy out of an suv and beating him? >> well, let's say there was a prior incident where the motorcycle was cut off by the range rover. that doesn't amount to let's circle up and fire him and beat the hell out of the guy. it was just so tragic and we caught it on tape. >> who are these motorcyclists? >> whether they're pagans or hells angels? >> well, i understand they were supposed to be a weekend gang of motorcyclists driving through new york. riding through new york is one thing. but the road rage, being upset

in the manner in which they were. but the thing about it is, they went about four miles. and the we knquestion i would a where is law enforcement during this time? it is reasonable to believe the driver of the range rover would have had a telephone. >> i think one of the problems the motorcyclists had, is the hot pursuit. they kept going after him and chasing him and trying to scare him, and then retreat him. >> i have had plenty of motorcyclists during high speed chases, they never get them. they go where cars can't go. but if it was my car, i would do what the guy did, straight ahead, run him over. >> the sad part is, you don't want to run over anybody, this guy may have two broken legs and may be paralyzed. but the fact of the matter is, this motorcyclist had a good faith believe he and his family was in danger, and he had every right to get out of there as fast as he could.

and the suv driver is not charged. >> for me, it is flat down, hands, games, match point, self defense. >> i need to find out what happened that precipitated this, is there any coup-- culpability the part of the suv driver? >> even if there were an earlier provocation -- >> well, two wrongs don't make a right. >> right, but the first wrong was somebody cutting each other off. the second wrong was beating the hell out of the guy with his family, breaking the hell out of the window -- >> the pursuit. >> that was very dangerous, somebody else could have been harmed as a result of this. >> gentlemen, as always, thank you, now to tonight's hot button issue on "greta wire.com," whose side are you on, the suv driver or the motorcyclists?

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>> test test the federal government may be partially closed, but as of 8 a.m., the obama care exchanges are open for business. and today, the health care exchange is launching with even crashes. that is not the only problems in obama care. last month, the small business owner going on the record, predicting his health care costs would rise under obama care. and now he knows for sure. anthony is back with us, anthony in august you estimated how much your health care insurance would go up. >> we estimated 20%, greta. >> and so now you have the

answer, is your health care going up, and how much? >> mondays are tough, when i got into the office i found it was 18.2% exactly. >> okay, 18.2, can you pay that? do you have the extra cash hanging around? >> oh, i have it right in my pocket, everybody, we want to spend more money on health care, so we have been budgeting for it. i wish i could raise my fees 18% on a letter. >> who -- are the employees going to pick up some of this? the people who use your product? i mean, how do you shift the cost around? it can't just come out of your pocket? >> most of our costs are fixed prices, so the customers won't feel it. myself, we'll feel it, i sent an e-mail to customers explaining the cost process. we'll contribute as a company, but we're sharing the burden together on this. >> is there any other insurance you could shop around and get? >> i hope so. we're definitely going to take a

look. ameri-health is our current provider right now that just sent the letter. i do have to bid it out. what i hear from other business owners i'm not going to have much luck there either, it is all about the same. >> what do you think about the fact some people got big business waivers, unions, on capitol hill they managed to make sure they get subsidies on health care for themselves. what is your thought about that? >> it is tough. you know, as a small business owner i'm used to getting the dirt kicked on me. and i have to think of more ways to keep generating revenue and keepi ining floating. while i'm unhappy about it, i continue to keep pushing forward with my business and we'll continue to do great things. >> anthony, thank you so much, come on back if anything changes, will you? >> yes, thank you so much. nice to see you, lee. >> okay, where were you at 8:00

a.m. this morning? >> oh, boy, i was at work, that is right. after a long night. >> and what were you doing at 8:00 this morning? >> well, i was looking at the new obama care exchanges because they came on line. >> and how was it? smooth, or a glitch? >> it is pretty rocky right now, i am sure you are not surprised. you have heard this. you go on these exchange websites and immediately the thing crashed for me. i tried to log on as a potential applicant in several different states, in exchanges run both by the states and the federal government, and nearly all the websites throughout the day were experiencing one problem or another. sometimes you couldn't create an account. sometimes the page load times would take an hour. sometimes you were trying to get help with the live chat function and it was not working. so it was difficult today for the exchanges. >> do you hear any sort of stories of great success, there is so much that went on? it was smooth. i found something i liked. it was cheaper than i had before or i didn't have anything before and it is something i can afford

and i'm delighted? >> we are hearing those anecd e anecdotes, that is true, democrats on the hill are sending out stories from people that are happy today, particularly on state-based exchanges, states like california, one man found a policy and was not previously able to get health insurance. because i believe his appendix had ruptured, so people were playing up that story. >> and they're making sure we see these stories, did you have any sort of sense overall whether this was a successful day on the roll-up? n >> i think it is very mixed right now. we heard from millions and millions of people trying to get on the exchange, they explained the glitches, they say it was due to early traffic. i could verify some of that, it was heavier in the day, and got

worse as the traffic trend grew. >> and some people were entitled to subsidies, we have to figure out how much they're entitled to subsidies based on their income. is the hub that does it, is it up and running and accurate so that the rest of the taxpayers are not overpaying subsidies? >> it is up and running, because we know that many people were able to sign up for coverage today. we don't know, just as consumers on the coverage, will be getting exactly the price, and making sure they are charged correctly. >> if you talk to the obama administration, are they happy? >> they are happy, tentative on giving a lot of details. they did say without a doubt nearly 4 million people tried to access health care. that is a lot of people. that is about 40% of the number of people that they hope to sign up over the next six months.

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>> greta: shut down of national parks ruining vacation plans but that is not all, also ruining wedding plans. this couple left scrambling, they join us, nice to see you. >> hi. >> hello. >> okay. >> you're supposed to be at the most spectacular place in the united states. the grand canyon getting married so where are you? i see that tile behind you. where are you? >> we're in a casino in boulder city, nevada right now. >> greta: i understand you're at the food court? >> we were, yes. we are. we took a tour of the hoover dam, that is still open. >> we were going to do this interview from our car. but we ended up trying to find a better spot with better reception. >> greta: so the

reason -- when were you supposed to get married at the grand canyon? >> tomorrow, october 2. >> greta: so tell you what you found out. what is the story. how are you feeling about this? >> well, i got a call on thursday from the national park service and they told me, you know, i felt really bad for the poor girl that had to call and tell me that we couldn't have our wedding in the event of a government shut down. you know? at the grand canyon. and i felt bad for her but i was also really upset, you know? and we ended up all friday we had to make plans, and find a new hotel. and find new hotels for our family members that are coming. and we decided to find a new place to have our dinner after, we get married and we had to find a new place to get married. so it's been a little bit crazy. >> greta: i can't imagine you dreamed you would northbound a

food court in boulder city when you asked her to marry you. is that what you had in mind? your idea of a romantic wedding? >> no. the plans were derailed. that was not the inintention for as long as we've been planning this. >> greta: why did you pick the grand canyon. it's a beautiful place, but why? >> one of our national wonders, to be outside in one of the most beautiful places on earth. >> it's gorgeous. we didn't want to get married indoors we wanted to be outside because we love to hike. we love to run. >> greta: what is your feeling about congress tonight? washington the president? the speaker of the house? >> well, i am very disappointed. you know? i mean, honestly, you know in a couple when you have an argument, you fix it by talking to each other. you don't stomp your feet saying i'm right, you're wrong

they're putting over 800,000 people out of work for the time being. they're getting paid? it doesn't seem fair to me at all. >> no. not looking out for americans. not looking out for us, the american people. and they're certainly not by closing parks and museums and monuments. they're not helping anything by doing that. >> greta: well you're getting married tomorrow. is that correct? >> yes. yes, we are. by hook or by crook. >> greta: let me be one of the foirs congratulate you the night before. nothing like a food court in a casino as a second place, right? >> we're headed to sedona. we'll get married there. we're on the way tonight. >> it's still open. >> yes. >> greta: and you have a great story to tell at your 50th wedding anniversary. anyway. >> thank you very much. good luck.

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think they need to grow the hell up, twitter really, where do we send diapers. use hash tag greta to hash it out with us. thank you for being with us tonight raising the ceiling doesn't do it. that's a fact. just thought i'd let you know. hello, everyone. we're back. it's 5:00, new york city, as if that matters. welcome to the world of dueling epock lipss. with the government shutdown and arrival of obama care, it's like two disaster movies at once. one is a smoecommotion, the oth calamity. what is the point of the shutdown? two things, putting off the employer plan date but not the individual. it's not telling