think they need to grow the hell up, twitter really, where do we send diapers. use hash tag greta to hash it out with us. thank you for being with us tonight raising the ceiling doesn't do it. that's a fact. just thought i'd let you know. hello, everyone. we're back. it's 5:00, new york city, as if that matters. welcome to the world of dueling epock lipss. with the government shutdown and arrival of obama care, it's like two disaster movies at once. one is a smoecommotion, the oth calamity. what is the point of the shutdown? two things, putting off the employer plan date but not the individual. it's not telling passengers to

board a boat but the crew is taking a sturdier craft. a little creepy. weren't ow leaders supposed to receive the same health care as the rest of us? not anymore. that got stripped out. so go ahead and blame the right all you want. but with obama the law has been changed more times than a baby with montezuma's revenge. but the real disaster is obama care. the president dismisses it all as just glitches but a glitch is just a problem that happens to someone else. it's what a customer service rep says when it's your service that goes out during the super bowl, not theirs. a glitch is your problem. right now signing up for obama care is so glitch-ridden, success is met with surprise. registering for it is like buying a ticket for the behindenberg as the hirery egg tilts downward. but obama is lucky the focus is on the shutdown and not this sham. for he created an industry now that exists above and beyond the confines of competition. to paraphrase an astronaut, obama care isn't just one small

step for socialism, it's a giant leap for misery. so, bob, you must be excited. this is the first it day of a new entitlement, a new program, a new arm of bureau okay rascy. you should be out on the streets marching perhaps half-naked. >> you wouldn't want that. i'm almost -- first on obama care, i need it. the first thing i would say is, if you wanted to step on your messenger, you couldn't figure out a better way to do it than have the government shut down the day obama care comes out. the reports are in, and much more people signed up, there were very few glitches, they had over a million people in california, over 34,000 in kentucky that signed up. poor people are still in line to it get obama care. >> what do you think? >> well, the good news for republicans is there will be plenty more negative obama care headlines from now until this goes away, which will be likely never. so i think bob is downplaying

some of the glitches. i think you're going to see when people start to sign up that this really isn't a good deal. people are not getting what they think they're going to, which is free health care. so i do think republicans have one job to do going forward, and that is they need to make sure that with every negative headline they are the ones that can say, we tried to stop this at some point. i wasn't for a government shutdown, but i think there's only one option that they have going forward, and that is to say, we tried to shut down the government to change this law, when people get really angry and disgusted and we turn into a third world country, they can go on record and say, we tried to slow it town and stop it. it's the only way they can message, i think, the shutdown. >> i think ted cruz was smart and the tea party was smart, fighting obama care, the government shut down because of them. but i've always been someone who says put your money where your mouth is. and it's time for republicans including the tea party to put your money where your mouth is. you did your thing.

now before you blow it for 2014, the figure some way to get the government back open again, even if it means letting obama care go through. let them own it, the dems own it, do whatever you want, but don't lose sight of the goal, 2014. get some change in it d.c., that means getting the government back open and let them take the heat. what do i mean by put your money where your mouth is? if obama care is so bad as all of us have priktded, it will. it will fall in on itself. it will be bad for the average person. >> that's what we've said for the last two weeks, eric. >> you had to fight it, greg. >> you did not. >> yes, you did. you had. now you -- now you let them own it. we it our best, we tried. we warned you. now it's yours. >> let's get dana in on this. you've been gone for quite some time. >> a few days, yes. i missed you all terribly. >> yes. and the surgery went well.

i'm joking. i don't know why i said that. where is this going? >> oh, my god. okay, obama care continues, but we already knew that. we've known that from the beginning. here's the thing about putting your money where your mouth is. it's a great point because guess what the democrats had their best fund-raising day ever yesterday. yesterday. so when you talk about 2014 and winning elections we're already in the hole. the echo chamber of the defund folks, it was loud. i admired a lot of it. and i liked the focus. but this is what i want to know. where are we going? i'll follow. i just want to know the end-game. if the house were to pass a continuing resolution with one attachment that all it would have to say is, hereby the government must adhere to whatever else the public has to adhere to, then i think they would pass it. why are you looking at me like that? >> if they had done that

yesterday, it would have made sense. but it will look like a loss now. can i make one point? they actually have a conference -- that was one of the gambits of the tea party people. on march 21, 2013, the house adopted the gop's fiscal 2014 budget. the house adopted the republican budget. and then on march 23rd the senate democrats passed their budget for 17 times and 166 days the democrats have asked the republicans to go to conference on the budget which would have avoided all this and the republicans said no. that's all you need to know. >> basically, obama has been the king of compromise through all of this. >> hold on. hold on. yes, he has been. so involved, too. so kind to the concludes. i don't know if that's exactly true about republicans and -- >> why do you say it's not exactly true? >> because today the democrats said no to actually going to conference. >> that was on that ridiculous cr. i'm talking about the budget of the entire united states. if they would have gone to

budget, they would have resolved it. >> now the democratic party wants to budget now? they took how many years to pass a budget? i will say john boehner i think had a great message last night, which was delaying the individual mandate. if you're going to delay it for businesses, delay it for everybody. i've argued from day one that the strongest one is the one dana made. make congress do what everybody else does. the problem is, greg, there are a lot of republicans that don't want that either. >> right. >> there's a vitter amendment, a ross amendment in the house of representatives. even republicans behind the scenes, they want their special goodies as well. that's the dirty little secret i think a lot of people don't realize. >> the republicans are sieging each other and blaming the tea party people. listen, these numbers by the way were from -- >> but the -- >> wait one second. if you can consider this -- you can't make chicken crap out of chicken salad out of this stuff. you have lost this round. you might as well accept the

message and do what the -- the next best thing, which is to get this cr passed cleanly, get a debt ceiling and let's talk about having a real serious conference which the democrats have asked for for 166 day and the republicans have refused. >> i agree with you if you stop now and say, this is it! well, the republicans lost. you're right. they did, they lost this round. unless you turn it around and say, okay, we put up the fight, we fought the good fight. now it's your turn. take a look, let's look at it in a year. a year from now we're going to be going into t mid term elections. if it's working, they'll lose any way. >> why go through shutting the government down? >> because this is lookly going to happen, health premiums are are going up. young men won't sign up because it will be cheaper to take the $95 penalty not to sign up. premiums are going to xmoexplod and the whole system will collapse on itself. then you go into 2014 and go, we told you. >> not to mention health care

standards basically decline so much that only the very wealthy are able to pay out of pocket for all the great care and surgeries and things like that. >> that's pretty true now. >> i just want to throw it to one of my favorite parts about the talk today in the rose garden. this was president obama talking about the glitch, and he makes an interesting comparison. >> just a couple of weeks ago, apple rolled out a new mobile operating system, and within days they found a glitch. so fthey fixed it. i don't remember anyone suggesting that apple should stop selling iphones or ipads or threatening to shut down the company if they didn't. that's not how we do things in america. we don't actively root for failure. we get to work. we make things happen. we make them better. we keep going. >> so just to be clear, he's comparing obama care to a product in which people slept overnight in front, thousands, millions of people wait for this amazing product, they want this

product, they're aware of the product. nobody is aware of what's going on with obama care. nobody wants it. how can he make that kpairs season son? >> to compare it to some ridiculous little machine out of apple, to compare health care for the entire country, is ridiculous. >> he did that. >> i know. that's what i'm saying. apple is bupkis compared to this. >> no. it's one of the most successful companies of all time. >> i don't care. >> apple is the exact opposite of obama care. >> it is. >> one is a capitalist -- >> i don't want to scare you with these headlines. obama enrollment is beating expectations. young men beating expectations in every state chafe checked. >> bob, if you're a 28-year-old young healthy man, are you going to take a $95 penalty per year or triple what your health insurance costs? what are you going to do? >> young men are signing up from north carolina to kentucky to california. >> or anyone. you don't have to be a young

man. why would you pay a -- why would you pay higher premiums than the penalty? >> i think the anxiety of not having health insurance actually -- that people are willing to pay. they might be willing to pay more. what i think is a mistake, i think it's fun to look at the glitches for a day or fwtwo but the underlying problem of the bill, the slowdown of the economic growth it will do, that's a much bigger thing. of course there were going to be glitches in anything like this. >> i actually think a lot of people don't have the money to pay the premiums and that's why they would say, i'm going to risk it. when i get sick, i'll sign up and take the penalty. a point on apple, could you imagine if this was an ipo today and there were funding issues and glitches, right, fraud with it, the cost of this product was through the roof. could you imagine the media? could you imagine the analysts in. >> yes. >> they would be bashing this thing all over the place. and a point about obama, someone

who loves media, someone who loves obama care so much, why didn't he roll out a little computer today, maybe an apple computer, and sign up himself and his entire family and his children? wouldn't that have been a great move for someone who believes in obama care so much? >> this is why i'm so proud of this show. listen to you talk. turning this -- trying to turn this thing into something that sounds like it's actually helpful to the republicans and you've actually done a pretty good job of it. i want to say congratulations, but you are smoking whatever they sell in colorado. which by the way signed up 34,000 people today. >> it's easy to sign up people, bob. but if you've noticed nobody knows how to work the damn thing. >> they're still working it. >> can i just fact-check president obama's speech today? he said the last time in 1996 that there was a government shutdown it hurt the economy. that was categorically wrong. every indicator one month after the shutdown was higher than prior to the shutdown. then he said something interest,

to me. he said 15% of americans don't have health insurance. how many people is that? haven't we been talking about 30 million people needing health insurance? >> at one point it was up to 46. now we're up to almost 50 million people. but the cbo did their estimates on 30 million people. if you go back and say 46 million or 50 million people need health insurance, at $1.8 trillion is going to be $2.5 trillion or more. >> you know what we haven't talked about and andrew johnson wrote a piece called 100 chosen consequences of obama care. the number of businesses that have taken a certain number of full-time employees and made them part time because of the uncertainty of this law, that's a big deal. that's a bigger deal than a glitch or problem and it's going -- without more certainty -- maybe it will all shake out, bob. maybe this will eventually be like the greatest thing ever. but i think if you are able to

read tea leaves, all signs point to a slower economy. >> i just want to know where the republicans and democrat governors unanimously endorsed the idea of moving forward with obama care. >> what are you talking about? one of the problems -- >> those who accepted it. >> but in of tmany of the state didn't. they were given the option of not expanding and they chose not to. or not doing an exchange. that's one of the problems with obama care. >> those who accepted it, including republican states, sent the congress a letter say, please don't try to mess around with wum obama care on the yr bill. those are governors living in the real world where the real people are and not people who are funded. >> that goes back to the question, if it's so awesome, why are you supporters seeking exemption from it? >> if it's so bad, you said it before, it will fail and you'll have all your great wishes to see it fail and people will still be out of insurance. >> in america we'll continue to take care of people who are sick. that's the way our western civilization works.

we're a great country because we take care of people. but our system will not be as good as it could be with competition. we will forever be seen, headlines and stories about the wait times getting longer, doctors dropping out. it will be a substandard system, and it didn't have to be that way. this way. that's why i think we should focus. >> before obama care, though, the united states medical system -- >> it was great. >> it was terrible. >> no, it wasn't! >> bob, now you're actually baldly lying. you claim a victory. >> that's a pretty strong statement. >> you claim a victory and then lie. our medicine is the best in the world. if you want to talk about the health insurance industry, that might be different. however, if you believe that the government is better at health insurance than people who do it for a living, why stop there? >> i wasn't referring to health insurance, number one. number two, anybody'she guys th health insurance companies because they're rip-off artists. >> but the insurance --

>> they're much smaller than the companies you love. >> and the insurance companies are actually the ones trying to sell on the exchanges, bob. it's the very companies you say you don't like that are comparing out the thing you say you like. >> some of them are doing a good job. some of them like aetna don't have the -- to go forward. >> we have had this debate so many times. there were other ways to do this. there were other smarter, better ways to do this. it didn't have to be rush. if the issue was the uninsured in the first place, 18% of those 30 million or 46 million are eligible for medicaid. so why not get them signed up? why not make that the public option? they didn't want to do that, bob. they wanted control. they wanted to get people hooked on subsidies. that was the goal. that's the end game. >> we've got to go, guys. sorry. we'll talk about it after the break. >> we don't have to talk about it anymore. you lost the round. that's fine. let's just leave it at that. >> so what's open, )pá's closed? and bottom line, how is this going to affect you? dana will break it down for us, next.

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w both sides are blaming each other, republicans and democrats and americans are pointing the middle finger at bong both of them. >> the federal government shut down last night for the first time in 17 years. what does that mean? for start, 800,000 government workers will be sent home without pay, operations at the democrat of education and epa and department of labor and justice and nasa will be affected. national parks, 401 of them in all, will be closed coast to coast from the statue of liberty to the grand canyon. fortunately one bipartisan solution was reached during the budget battle, the payment of active duty military was secured in the leadup to this. it's not a complete government

shutdown, a partial shutdown. for those sent home and are worried about their paychecks it's a serious deal. >> it is. no one likes to see anyone go home without pay. couple of people tweeted, i'm not getting a paycheck. it's very upsetting. will look, i have said for a long time i don't think we should have a government shutdown. and i will say this. bob, you are right as far as losing a certain round. but i do think that republicans should not be too dismayed. i'll tell you why. i don't think people are paying as much attention as we think. i don't. i know you quoted that number 800,000 people, but dana most people i talk to are not acutely focused like us here. they're not watching this. i do believe they blame both parties. historically when you look at the gallup numbers from 1995, republicans took heat and so did democrats. i do think as soon as the shutdown ends, people will forget about it and move on, but they will remember obama care. and the one silver lining for the gop is they are officially

on record opposing that bill. it's the one good thing about the shutdown. >> let me get eric in here, bob. i'm going to date myself a little bit. 17 years ago was my first day as a capitol hill press secretary, my first day of the first government shutdown. i don't remember what the market did that day, but today the business community seemed to say, no big deal. just shrugged it off. >> not only that, the last i believe three or four shutdowns one month after the shutdown the stock market and the economy was better off than it was during and before the shutdown. can i point something out. bob talks about how those evil health care providers and evil medical companies, doing so badly and poorly. do you know that on the heels of obama care implementation today, there are six health care companies that quotes they're at record high today. that means that the smart money on wall street is betting that obama care is going to do nothing but help these

companies. here's the problem. obama care didn't affect the cost of health care. it affects the cost of health care insurance, the availability of health care insurance. if you really want to tackle the health care problem in america, address the cost, the rising cost of health care. and this law does nothing to do that. >> there was an interesting quote by a small businessman. he said it was fortunate to have obama care to blame but the insurance companies were giving in anyway. leaving that aside, can we get back to the politics of this? the republicans had a big advantage, obama on his heels, big story about independence coming toward republicans in the last couple of weeks. by 5 to 1 independents blame republicans for the shutdown and they thought that doing obama care was silly, even people who oppose obama care. this idea that -- >> one year after this shutdown,

no one will remember it. the house and the senate will go either democrat or republican based on the merits of obama c.a.r. care. >> let's hope the republicans get it together. i don't think congress has been the same since 2006 when the democrats took over the senate. that's been the hinch pin. though i'm glad the republicans have the house. i am glad. greg, you've been worried sick. >> yes. >> about a government shutdown. how did you do today? >> it was rough. what the shutdown is doing is focusing the pain on the federal worker as opposed to the entire country, which is saddled by obama care, which is a disservice i think because president obama is the ceo of a bureaucracy of 4 million people. his goal is xhaexpanding his company which is in a sense the government. you talk about the dill tear yus -- the bad effects of the insurance industry with slim profit margins but for the past two or three decades they've been pry trying to get

socialized medicine in this place. socialism is waged internally on us. >> what are your, say, three or four biggest problems with obama care? >> that it narrows choice, limits competition, that it doesn't work, and there's no consequences. >> doesn't work? >> if there are no competitive values to it -- >> and it's man tated. >> that's why people have a problem with it. if it wasn't mandated, if it was an option -- >> no one would do it. >> it would go away. because the government says you have to, you don't have a choice, first time ever a product -- >> one of the things you have to keep in mind what happens in the government closings is, for example, there are a lot of clinics that are federally funded that help poor people that are closed today. >> i hate poor people, bob. you got us again. you always say it like if you're opposed to a public bureaucracy we hate poor people. >> god, did you not sleep last night? >> no. i want to call you out on this. i'm tired of -- could it be that

people who believe in private enter prize want to help poor people just as much as you? >> yes. greg, i never said -- >> you always bring up poor people when you're defending a bureaucracy. >> you want to make a point about what gets closed. i'm not saying you all are putting poor people -- >> you were thinking it. >> i was not. >> if you don't like insurance companies, i know you don't, you and i have commiserated about big kmshs compani insurance com wouldn't you have a smaller bill where people can buy insurance across state lines for plan that's suit them? right now if i decide to it join the exchange in new york, i'm paying almost $900 a month as a healthy young female that barely goes to the doctor because i'm paying for the lo of people without preconditions. it's not fair. this is not a fair system. the president says fair shot, fair shake, fair share. it's not. the higher rates go, the more chances it will implode. and it will. >> you know the old line there are two sure things in life,

death and taxes. now it's death, taxes and obama care. that's ridiculous. absolutely ridiculous. >> and it may yaurz death. >> i want to know what your specific problems are. that's all. >> can we throw that shot of obama talking about the languages? >> yeah, because -- there's nobody down here to enforce it. go for it. >> there is a hotline where you can employ over the phone and get help with the application. or just get questions that you have answered by real people in 150 languages. the number is 800-318-2596. >> 150 different languages! this is a bureaucracy when you say, we need 150 different languages to answer your questions. >> that's how many immigrant swrez in this country, greg. >> 150 different languages. this is why government -- >> i agree. that was a good point.

we didn't get -- >> i lost that one completely. >> check it out on our web site and facebook page. coming up, eric's been keeping track of how the media's been covering the drama in d.c. and later do not miss bob's heartfelt tribute to republicans for their role in the shutdown. "the five" returns in just a minute.

welcome back to "the five" and day one of the government shutdown. an aeshgists, blackmailers, kidnappers, all terms used to describe the patriots trying to save the republics from obama care.

but it took abc news to take it one step further. check out john parkinson go there. where you ask? ladies and gentlemen, abc news . here's what he said. in a blog he said, house majority leader eric cantor tweeted out this photo of, get this, all-while male meeting at an empty table. greg, we arsonists, anarchists, now abc giving help. i'm surprised they mentioned racism. i figured they thought we were racist for other reasons. i did some calculations. i figure out the only way to balance the favorable obama care of the last five years is for me to repeat that obama care sucks until 3142 a.d. and that is barely. >> dana, what about the media rollout of obama care? >> i think a lot of the reporter hes did go through the -- i can't believe it was 17 years okay that it first shut down --

so their experiences with it. also, most of these people are employees so they have health insurance, and they think that obama care was a good idea and that republicans are being ridiculous. i guess. >> so i opened this segment laughing because in the break greg pointed out he didn't think there were 150 languages. >> 150 languages don't deserve translation. >> bob claims he can come up with 150 so he's doing it. i read one of them that said irish. >> did not say irish. you show me where it says irish. >> english. that's a -- >> these right-wingers. >> did you put down canadian? >> i did not. french. >> anyway, bob, you have to agree that the media is completely in the tank for obama, would you not? >> i have not finished my languages. >> keep going. >> i don't think they are at all. what they have done, i think, fairly responsibly -- look, they beat up obama care. the "new york times" has been

pretty tough on them. >> lately. >> the fact is that you have a responsibility when you have something like this, like it or not, to try to explain how it works. and i think some of these organizations -- >> or doesn't work. calling them arsonists. >> using the race card, though, is a bit much. wouldn't you say? >> yes. and when it needed to work, when the media was doing an actual demonstration on msnbc on live television, oops, it didn't work. so i think there have been some publications that have been fair. forbes has been fair it. there have been a number that have actually covered the problems. but really to cover it fairly you have to understand the bill, and i don't think a lot of reporters understand -- well, i should say the law. i don't think most of them will be signing up for it. and i have to say in robert's defense, have you seen his girlfrien girlfriends? he's dated a lot of women from different countries so he maybe could complete this list. >> could we roll the shot of bob schieffer over the weekend talking about whether americans like or dislike it.

>> there is bipartisan opposition to obama care, not support. there's only partisan support. and you know good and well -- >> congresswoman, that's not entirely true. polls don't suggest that. >> no. i think -- >> polls show most favor it. >> no. most people oppose what is happening with obama care. i have looked at poll after poll after poll. >> do you agree with that, congress? >> they don't want it. >> you saw that little eye, the cbs eye. let's look at his cbs poll. turns out 51% disapprove, 39% approve of obama care. so dana, thoughts on bob schieffer not reading his own 0 poll? >> i think representative marsha blackburn the original author of the delay piece which i think would still have been a good deal that obama should have taken, she comes prepared to interviews and she was right. >> i wouldn't blame bob schieffer. he was busy at his second job at middle earth. >> that was important. >> i think they can cover up the

headlines as much as they want to or choose not to report them or fudge whatever polls they want. but, again, i think the american public is so savvy when it comes to health care even if they never cover obama care again, i think people can see their premiums going up. >> are you kidding me? >> oh, absolutely. i think they're about to find out. >> okay. we're going to leave it there. >> how many does he have? >> i'm going to guess around 60 or so. we'll be right become. next on "the five," a father driving his suv is chased down and beaten by a angry mob of bikers in new york city. the wild road rage incident was caught on tape by the suspects themselves, but there's more to the story than first reported. we'll be right back.

well, a stunning scene on the streets of new york city this past weekend, an apparent extreme case of road rage and the video has now gone viral. it shows a motorcycle gang chasing after a father out for a drive on his first wedding anniversary. now, it's not clear what triggered the chase, but it lasted for miles. the bikers surrounded the father's suv with his wife and 2-year-old aside, eventually pulling him out of the car and beating him in broad daylight. the suspects fled and the father was taken to the hospital. he received treatment and was released. now, the nypd made the first arrest in this case this morning, but where were the cops when all of this was going on? that's the biggest question, greg. the first thing that comes to mind that i thought when i saw this horrific video was, stop and frisk. the cops are petrified to stop what they would be perceived as criminals typically because in the stories we've covered they don't want to lose their

pensions, their lives. they've stayed away. >> i'm not sure -- i don't know if these guys had weapons or not, but i have trouble with the phrase "road rage." they weren't angry when they did this. these guys you see all the time. i live in new york city. i saw these guys on the weekend flying through. and it's intimidating. when you're in a car and they're coming through, biker gangs are gangs because they like to ride bikes in groups and scare the crap out of you. it's -- they've been doing it since world war ii and marlon brando movies. but it's bad. it's bad. but it's nothing compared to what's going on elsewhere in new york city. you had a guy punched to death in union square, a female student thrown in front of a subway, a man stabbed five in riverside parks. the weapons were fists, scissors and a subway. the problem is with bikers, the it's deranged maniacs on the streets in new york city. >> biker gangs, these guys are meth dealers. you talk about stop and frisk.

they were doing the crime. they didn't have to figure out if there was a crime. they were speed, beating people up. every one of them should be sent away for life. >> stop, stop, stop. >> the one that got himself paralyzed, let him go to paralyzed prison. >> can i throw a curveball in this? >> sure. >> do you know the guy in the suv ran over one of the bieshgs fir bikers first? >> yes. >> that's too bad. >> look, i'm not defending any vigilanteism, pulling a guy out of a car and beating the daylights out of him. at first we heard a group of bikers beat up a guy with his family. then we heard he hit a biker, took off, hit another biker a second time. >> wait a minute. that's not how i understood it. what happened was the bikers pulled up around the suv first. the man became petrified because he saw his suv surrounded. dana, he started to go. he clipped one of the bikes by

accident. that's when they swarmed. that's when he ran over one biker and broke both legs. i'm not sure i would have done something different had my car been surrounded with my child in the back. >> it is domestic terrorism. that's how i would describe it, domestic terrorism. there's a reason why i don't drive here. i haven't driven in three years. scares the crap out of me. everything you just said makes me -- i don't know what i want to do. move to the moon. >> drop nails in front of these son fz bitches. >> but greg's list is a good one. i think new york is becoming more and more dangerous, and it's a sign. it wasn't always like this. >> what krauthammer said earlier, the bigger issue for a lot of states is mental illness and dealing with people on the streets. >> but surely we're not saying because a stop and frisk ruling that hasn't even gotten put into play that these things are happening. >> why not? cops in new york say they're petrified. a federal judge has ruled. it's done. >> they may be petrified of the

gangs. >> if i'm a cop, i don't want to lose my pension or my life. >> they're not prohibited from stopping and frisking. >> bob and charles krauthammer, finally agree on something. a government shutdown is a good thing for president obama, they say. >> [ male announcer] surprise -- you're having triplets. [ babies crying ] surprise -- your house was built on an ancient burial ground. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmission. [ coyote howls ] how about no more surprises? now you can get all the online trading tools you need without any surprise fees. ♪ it's not rocket science. it's just common sense.

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ain't that the truth. i want to just take a moment here and thank, thank the republican party for the great twists they've given us by closing down this government. you know, you had obama on the run. you had us on the defensive. independents were all going in your direction. now you blew it again. i'll explain more in a moment. first, here's someone who surprisingly agrees with me. charles krauthammer. >> this is going to give him political advantage. this is a lifeline for an administration who's drown. the numbers are low. administration is in disarray.

humiliated abroad. an economy stuck in the mud at home. he's got nowhere to go. i think they've been hoping for a shutdown because obama then gets to go on the stage and to give all that stuff that you showed in your introduction. this is the law of the land. >> we weren't hoping for a shutdown, but if the republican party had to take a hitt on it, so be it. producer is excited ae having this block, five minutes. >> it was beautiful. >> to point out, they didn't want to shutdown, harry reid could have brought the senate back. he waited until monday at 2:00 p.m. >> for what? >> he knew the shutdown was going to play in their advantage. correct, they didn't have to. you're right. >> the bigger issue here is that winners do not need lifelines and bob just admitted that obama care is a big loser because it needed a lifeline. you just said this saved him. how did he need saving if it wasn't for the fact he was a disaster? >> i think it had a lot to do with the economy, with jobs, with the fact he had all these international problems.

>> you you're finally admitting the economy suck, jobs suck. >> this is a problem, greg. you often take everything that i say to the spurllative. i think the economy is getting better but it's not great. >> your issue is that obama didn't necessarily -- it was a -- >> you have a republican party that's a dinosaur. they're dying and there will be another party to come up and hopefully with some life and better -- >> you know what it's been like, bob? been like watching your girlfriend about to marry a total jerk and you know he's a jerk but don't want to say anything because she's so in love with him, but you know in a few years it's going to end really badly in a horrible divorce and then you're going to say, oh, yeah, i always wondered about that guy. she's going to say, why didn't you tell me? >> do we know who you're talking about? >> i'm talking about the republicans. >> oh. >> very personal. >> if it fails and fails miserably, you're right. it's going to self-correct itself and the republicans will win big in 2014. if you're right. >> don't get married. >> i don't think you'll be

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time for one more thing. i want to go to my personal hero, justin bieber. this is a picture of him at the great wall of china being carried by his assistant up the great wall of china.

he makes miley cyrus look civilized and masculine. i mean, seriously. you're a dude. you're a dude. walk. you make me sick to my stomach. all right, dana. as you pointed out, i was away for a few days in south carolina. i have a new best friend, macy english. she loves one more thing. all weekend long i teased her whether or not she would be one more thing worthy. here's a picture of her with jasper. see how cute her glasses are? jasper, her dog, grady. we found grady monday morning at the house in south carolina, dead asleep on the dining room table with a bottle of wine behind him. >> that's how greg woke up, too. >> that's true. and with a dog. >> oh. >> andrea? >> okay. bad news for volkvolkswagon lov. the van is being retired by volkswagon.

the last one rolled out on new year's eve only to brazil which got me thinking of my car which happened to be a vw. it was a 1990 vw jetta. i think that is my old car. that was my first car. ma what was your first car, guys? >> the bieber bus lot. >> cutlass supreme. >> '64 victorivictoria. >> buick sky lark. >> i'm still embarrassed. >> i don't even know what that is. >> okay. here it is. day one of obama care. by the way, thank you, dr. siegel for letting me borrow your doctor's lab coat. you asked for it. it starts today. i suggest number one, you call it democare, and get ready -- >> why are you pointing to me? >> death panel. >> very quickly, fox news is welcoming a pulitzer prize winning columnist and commentator. he's leaving abc and come to fox which is a smarter move. welcome, george.

you're one of my favorite people. i like hearing you though i don't agree with you much. >> i loved him and loved him in "divo." one of the greatest writers ever. >> i don't get the middle welcome to "red eye." it is like friday night lights if by lights you mean exclusive party. they don't want you there. let's welcome our guest. she is so hot that hot wings order her when they watch football. that's hot. i am here with patti ann browne, pab for short. give as you smile. and filling in for andy levy, mick mar teen. he holds a record for spotting whales and a greater record for being miserable and alone. and we had initter vengeses to get him to do more drugs. it is my sidekick, bill schulz. you know him as the guy who opened for that guy who opened for