for you. welcome to "hannity." tonight we are following two developing stories. day three of the obama/reid government shutdown and the democrats are refusing to talk with republicans and negotiate an outcome. i will be joined by mike lee. ann coulter joins us tonight. today is day three of the obama care roll out. this administration had years to figure this out. but still the imple men tags has been nothing short of a mess and a failure. to prove this, we have now tasked our very own ainsley errhart. she's been there and she'll try

to uh sign up for the president's disastrous health care law, obama care. >> i have been home all day trying to sign up, too. i haven't been able to get in. we'll try it now. health care.gov. click on the site. here we go. click on health care.gov. apply now. >> okay. >> click on that. takes a minute. choose your state. i chose first south carolina. this is where i'm originally from. we'll do your state next, sean. you're from new york. this is what you get when you try to apply in south carolina. we have a lot of visitors on the site right now. please stay on this page. we are working to make the experience better. we don't want you to lose your place in line. >> my future state is florida. i can't get out of new york fast enough. >> there are a lot of people in florida. i read articles earlier.

they are asking doctors to help them sign up. >> we'll check in throughout the hour. we'll check in in a few minutes. back to the liberal induced shutdown. only a more civil and -- challenges of the. >> it's embarrassing that these people are elected to represent the country and representing the tea party. the anarchists of the countrimecountry. >> i hope we'll engage each other with the civility that's brought us this far. >> they are attempting to extort.

the american people and the economy nor in order to get their partisan objectives. >> we are not negotiating with people with a bomb strapped to their chest. >> i believe there is hope for civil uh ti, for progress. >> this is playing with the fire. legislative arsonists at work. >> doesn't take a genius to figure out proof is watching the house republicans. they have lost their minds. >> i still believe we can replace acrimony with civility. and gridlock with progress. >> wow. those are democrats. liken gop members to suicide bombers, anarchists. arsonists. fl pretty disgusting rhetoric. utah senator mike lee. first the obvious. what a phony hypocrite the

president is. we want them to think better of us. he said that at the memorial for gabrielle giffords. not the memorial but for the other people after the tucson shooting. >> he did. civility is a great thing. we need more of it in government. apparently civil uh ti to them means to agree with us. do what we demand. by the way, if you don't we'll call you an anarchist, an arsonist, terrorist and every other bad ist there is in the book. people responsible for the statements should be ashamed because they are so utterly inconsistent with the manner in which they are behaving. >> let me go to harry reid. the house has funded the national parks, d.c. and america's veterans and the v.a. and the nih and our national guard. they are passing all the bills to keep government running. the president says he'll veto

them. he won't negotiate with the republicans. neither will harry reid take the bills up. harry reid is asked about one kid with cancer. >> if you can help one child who has cancer why not do it? >> listen -- >> why pit one against the other? >> why would we want to do that? i have 1,100 people at nulles air force base sitting home. they have a few problems of their own. to have someone of your intelligence suggest such a thing is irresponsible. >> i'm just asking. >> why help one kid with cancer? >> sean, he's shocked, first of all, that someone from cnn would go off script and challenge him. it's t not something he's used to. it exposes what the democrats are doing here. they are saying to the us unless

you are willing to fund everything we won't allow you to fund everything. unless you fund obama care we won't let you fund benefits for veterans. that's pretty twisted and wrong. the american people are tired of this collusive spending when members of congress will hit the re set button every year, keep the spending intact and not question anything. that's what we have to fight, stop. that's what this is about. it presents us with an opportunity to re-examine the way we spend money in washington. >> how does the president explain this that he won't even negotiate? it's his way or the uh highway. look, i have often said this president's arrogant. that's the height of arrogance, isn't it? isn't that the way things work in washington? >> yes. it's the height of arrogance and hypocrisy.

it's only republicans that have acted several times now to keep the government running. only governments that acted first to prevent and now undo a government shutdown. we have acted again and again with noble leadership from speaker boehner and majority leader cantor and others in the house of representatives who acted time and again to fund government. unless you vote to fund everything including obama care they won't let us fund at current levels. the president is taking a position where he won't negotiate. i'm convinced he wants to bring the issues together. the president is talking down the markets which i have never

seen before. let's yes mind people what he said in 2006. first the fact we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, a sign the u.s. government cannot pay its bills. over the past five years our federal debt increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. that's trillion with a t. this rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy. then he said this during the campaign. watch this. hang on a second. he called the republicans unpatriotic, irresponsible for increasing the debt to $9 trillion. now we are voting on a debt limit that will hit $16.5 trillion or $17 trillion. >> the problem is the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt

from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents. number 43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome. we now have over $9 trillion of debt. that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >> $17 trillion by his own words makes him irresponsible and unpatriotic. is that fair? >> i think i would have gotten along better with senator obama than i uh do with president obama. i like that he was saying this is a risk, not a hypothetical problem. this is a national security threat. the fact that we keep adding to the national debt makes it more unsustainable. it's something to be concerned about. now we have no choice. he's telling us we are

unpatriotic if we raise a question about it. if we even attach conditions to it to make sure we are not back in the same position just a few months later. >> senator, i think the worst thing republicans in the house can do at this point is give in to this president bully. this arrogant president who won't negotiate. it would be a bad precedent if they allow him to get away with this. i like that they are passing individual bills. do you support the strategy? do you have anything to add? >> i support them whole heartedly. moments before i came into the studio i was on the phone with my friend jim bridenstein from oklahoma. he's a champion of the effort . he told me there is a strong support base within the house republican rank and file. they support speaker boehner and majority leader cantor. there is a real unified caucus behind the effort. they understand this is a fight worth fighting. we have to protect the american people from the harmful effects of obama care while bringing an

end to the senseless, needless shutdown of program that is have nothing to do with obama care. >> all right. keep up the good fight, senator. tell those guys, hold the line. don't give in to the bully. >> will do. >> coming up next, a heated "hannity" debate. we have two house lawmakers. opposite sides of the aisle on health care. they go head to head. we'll re veal the gop lawmakers who have become weak in the knees. they appear to be buckling under pressure in the media. hold the line. first we'll check in with ainsley. trying to sign up for obama care. no luck. time to help select the video of the day. go to hannitylive.foxnews.com. the one you pick will play in its entirety at the end of the show. the first, the hilarious clip from jimmy kimmel live proving how dumb some of your fellow americans can be. >> we are talking about health

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at different points at t home and now in the green room hey, sean. this is the south carolina page. we have a lot of visitors, as we showed you at the top of the show. thanks for your patience. hang on, basically. let's try your state, florida. your retirement state. your other favorite state. >> my most favorite state. >> where a lot of people live. >> i go fishing, play golf. warm weather in the winter. >> this is what your friends in florida are experience ing. they can't get on either. >> no luck? >> we'll wait. >> what state should we try next? >> new york maybe? new jersey? >> california, you know, all those states. they want it. how do they do with it? >> good plan. we'll try. >> we'll check in in a few minutes. i have a feeling she might be running in a circle tonight. joining me now congressman pascrell. it's been a long time. how are are you? >> very good. how is your family. >> good.

thank you very much. liberals claim they have a monopoly on compassion of fairness for the poor and everybody else. let me ask you a specific question. if big business gets a special exemptions, do you think it is fair that individuals did not get the same exemptions and similarly, you in congress are getting the subsidy exemptions the rest of us aren't getting with obama care. do you think that's fair? >> first of all the members of congress do not get a subsidy. it is the employer contribution to health care. >> 72%. >> like any company or federal agency. we are not getting more than anybody else. >> can i get the 72%? >> you ask a good question. give me a chance to answer it. all the guys on your side of the aisle, when this thing blows over, they will be the first ones to make sure they have coverage. you know it and i do. they could give it up tomorrow morning, sean. >> some of them did actually.

some have given up the 72% subsidy. i'm asking you. big business got an exemption. but they applied it to everybody , individuals. why would you be against that? >> this is a plan that demands everybody. >> except big business i. >> it's important that everybody signs up up. >> there was a bureaucracy. we have to get over the bureaucracy. there are a lot of complaints, some very legitimate. so the administration thought this was a way to extend the time it was necessary. we thought it was important. >> how about individuals, too shh. >> the individuals are getting as much help as possible. >> they are not getting exempt at all. >> what happened over the last three days indicates there is a lot of interest. people are having problems getting through. i recommend to those folks to continue to try. it's going to be worthwhile. regardless of what the folks say, this is going to be

successful. they don't want it to be. >> there is a $10,000 swing in terms of the president said we'd save $2500 a year and it will cost $7500 a year on average. and it will cost four times the $900 billion the president said and an exemptions for big business. what's your reaction to how different it is from what the president promised? >> he also promised if people like their health care policy they could keep it. uh people are losing their health care policies. the two prominent unions that lobbied for obama care. one was the teamsters and the united food workers wrote a letter saying this stinks. it will create a part-time economy and take away the health care you promised we could keep. as far as what congressman pascrell said, i have said i won't take the subsidy. i'm not taking it. i think we should live under the same laws every american does.

on that amendment that we offered, several democrats actually voted with us. they realized like we did this should be b about fairness for everybody. not just for a few. >> congressman? >> it's interesting, sean. you guys are raising the flag for unions and working people. i'm glad you are coming to our side. secondly, i don't have the federal plan. i have my own plan. so you don't know what you are talking about. the fact is we are all different. we have different plans. >> congressman -- you're not telling the truth. >> i don't have a subsidy. >> you have a 72% subsidy that everybody -- >> i don't have it. >> that everybody watching the show doesn't b have. that's what the law says. you're getting special perks and breaks for yourself. absolutely. cut the crap and stop lying to the audience. >> you stop the crap. you don't know what you are talking about. you have been lying. >> is there a 72% -- >> the president not wanting to

negotiate. we have a budget passed. >> talk about integrity and honesty. let's be straight with the american people. >> one at a time. >> be straight with the american people. >> is there a 72% subsidy or not? >> there is a 72% subsidy. it is a special deal that the president cut for congress. he cut a special deal -- the. >> there is no special deal the president cut for congress. >> you have a 72% subsidy. >> where have you been? do you not read the paper? >> do you know what your problem? you are an elitist. you think you are above the american people. >> no, my problem is you don't let me finish. >> go ahead and finish. >> you have a big problem. >> my problem is people who lie on the program. you're lying to the american people. >> don't you dare call me a liar. >> you are lying to the american people. >> don't you dare. >> you're get ago 72% break. you're lying. >> hey, sean. where were you in the last six months -- >> tell the people of this country you have a special subsidy that they don't have.

tell them the truth, congressman. >> i don't have a special subsidy. >> that's a fact. >> that's fact. >> check mate. we have to go. >> look -- >> let me say this. >> pass it and put people back to work. >> you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own set of facts. >> remember what you just said, pal. >> congressman, i will bet you $10,000 your charity versus mine that congress has a special subsidy the american people don't have. >> look. >> are you going to take the bet? >> no, i won't take the bet. >> are you taking the bet? >> no. >> you're lying. that's why. >> i only talk to people who are straight. >> i'm talking straight. $10,000 for your favorite charity. >> when you're explaining, you are losing. >> $10,000. >> you're afraid it will be successful. that's your problem. >> okay. you're full of crap. >> oh, really? >> coming up, the other news of the night. when we come back. breaking news over the decision to close the world war ii

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growing outrage over the obama administration's decision to close the world war ii memorial to the public. the ous hoversight committee announced it will investigate whether the closure was politically motivated. here with reaction to the late breaking development is the author of the soon to be coming out book october 14 "never trust a liberal over 3 especially a republican." how are you? >> fine, thank you. you can just use the first part. >> even in 1996 they didn't shut down the memorial. >> not only that they are trying to shut down privately-run areas. all of the privately-run park areas that have not only never been shut down before but take no federal money. they pay rent to the government.

this is 100% political. with the sequester and uses air force one to fly his dog to martha's vine yard. i don't normally comment on that. there is enough to complain about. >> i forgot about the dog going to martha's vine yard. >> he's doing it to punish people so he can blame republicans when it's 100% the democrats. >> and the exemptions. >> and now the government is shut down because congress re fuses to fund obama care. >> i was arguing with this democrat who doesn't know the law. >> it has to be said over and over again. congress, the ones who say it's so great are refusing to live

under obama care. that's all republicans are sayingment. >> they have a 72% subsidy. >> you live under the laws you pass for others. they wroent won't do it. this is what the fight has come down to. there is an abomination of obama care which is already a disaster. we should talk about that. number two, ted cruz and mike lee and not newt gingrich running at this time. number three, and most important we have part of the media now. there was no fox news z in 1995. nobody was on the internet. talk radio wasn't as big as it is now. if you look at the polls even with 100% of the nonfox media pushing the idea that it's republicans. in 1995 the gap between the public blaming republicans versus democrats was. >> much bigger. >> 23 points.

it's only 9 now. . >> i like the strategy. they are passing bills to fund everything. >> everything. these guys are showing signs they are getting weak in the knees and they may be getting weak. they don't like the press coverage. these guys on the screen may buckle. that's the worst thing they could do because they are giving in to the bullying of a president that won't even talk to them and negotiate. >> were they in a coma during the launch of the obama care ex change s? have they seen what's happening? >> disaster. >> did you see minnesota. like 3,000 social security -- thousands of them. social security numbers sent to private insurance brokers. obama care has been up and runninging for five minutes.

nobody has purchased insurance. but they are release ing the social security number as you put it on. >> amazing. >> and your favorite radio show so you can be audited. did you see the prices of obama care? >> unbelievable. >> a healthy 27-year-old. the premium in most states is $124 a month. >> nearly 300% on average increase in three states. 27-year-old nonsmoking male pays up to 300% more. >> when i was 27 i didn't spend $174 a year on my entire health care. forget a monthly insurance premium. >> we'll see you back here a week from monday. >> that's when the book comes out. i launch on "hannity." >> i will go to one of your signings. >> you're going to have one. >> well, a book party. when we come back next on "hannity" it's been more than 30 minutes since ainsley began her mission to en roll in obama care. time to find out if she was able to complete the task.

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basically. new york, no luck there either. i'll see you tomorrow morning. heather and i on fox & friends. for now, back to the you. >> that's awful. all i can say is thank you for trying. i know it was frustrating. here with reaction to the disastrous roll-out of obama care the co-host of the five. bob, three long years they have had to prepare for this. it's a total unmitigated disaster. >> you give one or two examples? there are thousands of people who signed up with no problem whatsoever. they exceeded ex peck tagss first day, second day. there are going to be problems when you have millions of people. >> some problems? >> some? >> who are the people signing up. can we get a list from the white house? >> sure. >> no. they won't provide one. >> the headlines in states. utah, connecticut. >> the headlines in states have been less than 1% of people in

the states are signing up. in louisiana, 0% are signing up, bob. >> do everything you can do bad mouth the deal. maybe some people won't who need help. >> these are facts. it's not personal or emotional. obama care isn't working. it's only been two days. >> the washington post's policy blog tried to find somebody somewhere in the united states -- one person, bob, to sign up that did it successfully. they can't do it. >> that's ridiculous. >> it's the washington post. it's true. >> let me ask you about the $10,000 swing. president said $900 billion. every family would save $2500. it's costing them $7500. >> where did you get that number from? >> forbes.com. it give use state by state percentage increases. california up to 160%. florida, 40%. >> that doesn't --

>> 46 states, people will see premium increases, not savings. that doesn't faze you? >> the premiums will come down. it takes a while to get people hooked up. >> the sad part is you are fronting for a lousy health insurance industry that's never done anything helpful for the country but rip them off. >> that's not fair. how long have we known each other? when do i shill for insurance companies? >> apologize. >> i'm not going to. you shill for them. you guys all say the insurance companies. there's never been -- the affordable health care act. >> i asked about the $10,000 swing. he doesn't want to answer it. four times what obama said it would cost. bob, a $10,000 swing. that means people will put out $7500 and not save $2500. >> that will scare people. the part of it i don't get, i

don't buy they will pay 2k4r7z 50 at the end of the year. >> 900 billion becomes $3 trillion, $4 trillion. cbo says it will bankrupt us, bob. >> come on. i tell you what. this is going to fail according to y'all. it will crash down. you get republicans elected. >> unfortunately we can't wait for that to happen. families can't afford what's happening. i checked my rates on the exchanges for me. i barely see a doctor, thank god. i'm healthy. >> well, you're greek. >> almost $900 a month for me , bob. my sister does health benefits. you know my sister and you like her too much. she said, i can't find one person that signed up successfully. she's delivering rate increase s to businesses and individuals over 100%. >> i ask your nice sister to show me a company she went to before obama's health care plan that ever got a decrease.

>> e-mailed you yesterday. >> harry reid said yesterday when asked about the kid with cancer, you know, why would i want to do that. you liberals argue about guns that is if we could save one life and harry reid, cold-hearted, calculating. >> horrible. >> you like the comment ? >> i don't. harry has a way to put his foot in his mouth. it's a bad idea. it is true because of the government shutdown women with children won't get medicine today. thanks to the republicans. it's true -- >> wait. let me be bob. don't scare everybody . you're scaring everyone. >> these insurance policies aren't going into effect until january 1. right? >> that's correct. >> yeah. >> so you're saying on january 1 they are all going to see a $7500 increase. >> on average per family. >> let's see what happens january 1. >> they are already getting the rate increase. >> well, rate shock now? they are paying that much more. >> do you read what the actuary

said about the cost? >> they are put together by -- >> you cannot defend obama care. it is open enrollment now. it's not the insurance industry. i will tell you what. this happened in massachusetts. when you have a number of sick people enrolling into the system and no healthy people enrolling it's adverse selection. it drives premiums through the roof. >> health care is working in massachusetts. the issue is enroll. . it will eventually be the -- >> you guys will end up eating your syringes. >> that's not going to happen. this is a serious situation. >> all the people working part time because of companies cutting back hours. i know the liberals care for them. >> i don't. i think you will find the vast majority of businesses aren't going to lay people off. >> you just make stuff up. you pull it right out of -- >> you know what? >> you're pulling every fact out of thin air. >> that's wrong. you talk b about the companies laying people off or drop thing

them below -- >> do you know where you are pulling it out of? thin air. >> the thin air is having to listen to you for a period of time. >> the government may be shut down but the beckel institute is still open for business pumping out faulty facts. >> you will take the health care and you will be happy to have it. >>. coming up on kwoez hasn't. >> he notably didn't announce he'll pay for children with cancer to get access to clinical trials that are now beg denied. i guess reince priebus prefers war memorials to living children. >> a special edition of media mash coming up. we want to hear from you on hannitylive.foxnews.com. you can vote for tonight the's video of the day. video of the day. we will continue.

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welcome back to "hannity." time for media mash, all the ways the main stream media put as liberal spin on the news. there is never a shortage. the president of the media research center, brother brent bozell. sir, how are you? >> brother hannity, how are we ? >> we are fine. nbc and cnn blame republicans for the shutdown both before the shutdown and after the shutdown. roll tape. >> another day of disand

squabbling in washington as the clock ticks down for the potential government shutdown. republicans trying to defund the president's health care law. to do this shutdown. >> republicans are going to get blamed for it for the simple fact that the country will see this is a shutdown brought on by the republican party. >> the suicide caucus is comprised of 80 hard line republicans who got the ball running toward a government shutdown. >> it is being driven by a committed core of republican members of congress who are all but assured of re election in their districts and just can't be conservative enough for many of the folks back home. >> you know, the president won't even talk. meanwhile they were elected. they made campaign promises. and they compromised four the times. the president won't even talk to them. negotiate with them. >> sean, here is the narrative they don't want to bring up. the c.r. the republicans put up was a compromise on two levels. number one, the republicans

don't want to defund. the republicans want to repeal for once and for all. so defund was throttling back. republicans offered to fund everything the democrats wanted including a pile of stuff they didn't want in return for putting an end to this monstrosity. they were compromising. the democrats and the president have offered nothing. this is the interesting number here. in the media coverage, 21 stories blaming republicans, not one story blaming the democrats. do you know what's more interesting? go back to 1995 and you will find the same networks, 23 times they blamed the republicans. not once did they blame democrats. >> predictable. let's go to the rhetoric out there. republicans have been called terrorists, this is jihad, they are strap thing bombs on themselves, extortionists, anarchists and the list goes on. of course it's the extreme right wing and they are the most

dangerous force since joseph mccarthy. watch the main stream media take sides. >> the real irony here is unless the grid lock is broken health care, which republicans want to stop, will be funded while other parts of the government will shut down. exactly the on oh sit of what the ultra conservatives wanted. >> the extreme right wing of the republican party has taken that party hostage. >> it is incredible to me to watch republicans put on their suicide vests and think this is going to have some kind of outcome for america. >> eric cantor and his republican party are the most dangerous demagogic force in american politics since joe mccarthy. >> first it was defund. then delay. these are the offers. then it was just get rid of special exemptions. then let's talk about it. no, no, no, no. it's all the republicans fault?

these guys -- >> two points here, sean. you heard all these insults. look at a cnn poll. 56% of the american public do not want this. therefore, 56% of the public was just insulted as being a right wing fringe. that's not important. what's important is what does it tell you about the so-called news media? they believe 56% of the public are suicide vests. >> the morning liberal at nbc, even on his show they talk about it. the white house assumes the press will put the blame on republicans. it's like they are counting on the media. their biggest contributors. watch this. >> here's what the white house and to some extent the hill will monitor. one is how the press covers the shutdown and does it just go back into 1990s mode of saying obstructionist republicans are causing a shutdown and real people are hurting. assuming that will happen.

>> of course they assume that's the way it will happen. they are in their back pocket. at least it was honest. >> here's the dirty little secret . conservatives believe the media bias are biased. if you ask them they will say, oh, no, we're not biased. >> yeah . let's go to nbc. we have to stay on nbc. they are the obama love network. martin bashir, the guy infamous for interviewing michael jackson who tucks little boys in with cookies and milk and it's charming. do you remember the interview? same guy. he slams reince priebus as preferring war memorials to living children. this is after harry reid's comments. why would i help one kid with cancer? watch this. >> the rnc chair reince priebus arrived with urgent word that the republican national committee will pay to keep the world war ii memorial open for a

month. >> i have come here to announce that the republican national committee has put aside enough money to hire five security personnel full time to keep the world war the two memorial open. >> he notably didn't announce he'll pay for children to get access to clinical cancer trials they are being denied. i guess he prefers open war memorials to living children. >> did they hear reid? why help one kid with cancer? >> this is not biased. this is a 100% bold-faced lie told by msnbc. it was the republicans who yesterday put forward a spending bill to restore funding for children with cancer. it was harry reid who said no. that is a flat out 100% lie told by national television. did you hear that, martin?

>> he doesn't care. why does he care? >> not on that network they don't. >> it's not nbc. it's dnc the tv. full time, 24/7. thank you. appreciate it. i have a message for the republicans. hold the line. don't cave. i'm sure you agree. i hope you do. coming up, we'll reveal your pick for the video of the day. straight ahead. ooh, homemade soup! yeah... [ male announcer ] try campbell's homestyle soup brimming with farm grown veggies. huh, just like yours. huh. [ male announcer ] and roasted white meat chicken. just like yours. huh. soup this good could never come from a can. [ male announcer ] people will say, soup this good could never come from a can. i love this show. [ male announcer ] so good they'll think it's homemade. try campbell's homestyle soup. m'm! m'm! good. okay, who helps you focus on your recovery?

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welcome back. time to reveal what you have chosen as tonight's video of the day. you have selected the clip from jimmy kimmel live. he asked the american people what they liked best -- obama care or the affordable care act. you will be shocked to see how many people didn't know they were one and the same. take a look. >> we are talking about health care today.

which plan do you support -- obama care or the affordable care act? >> the affordable care act. >> what is it about obama care that you do not like? >> i just think there are a lot of holes in and it needs to be revamped. it hasn't been thought out. >> you think the obama care is a better plan than obama care? >> better, but i'm not happy with it either. >> what do you agree with obama care or the affordable care act? >> more toward the affordable care act. >> so it's more affordable than obama care? >> just the name says it all. >> why do you not agree with the affordable care act? >> well, i think it's more -- it's, it's really not available for all. >> the sad part is a lot of people that think this way will cancel out your well informed vote. that's chilling. that's all the time we have left this evening . as always, thank you for being

with us. let not your heart be troubled. the news continues. greta van susteren standing by to go "on the record." see you back here tomorrow night. >> this is a fox news alert. chaos in the caple toll. first shutdown and then lock down. a woman leads police on a high speed chase. 16 blocks to the capitol from the white house. it all started when she tried to drive-thru a security checkpoint outside the white house. she then struck an officer as she fled the scene. secret service and police chased the woman down pen pen avenue toward the capitol. at one point she was cornered but rammed the the police cars, struck another officer and took off again. police shooting at the suspect. but the chase didn't end until the car crashed into the back of the capitol. then more gunfire and the suspect was shot and died. police rescued a 1-year-old child, a girl, from the car. for the latest we go to