bingo. thursday, we'll do it again. thanks for watching tonight. i am bill o'reilly. remember, the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. tops right here because we're always looking out for you. welcome to this special edition of "hannity." tonight i will be joined here in studio by a bipartisan group of college students and recent grads from all over the country. exactly half of them are republicans. the other seven bravely identify themselves, believe it or t not as liberal democrats. over the course of the next 60 minutes we'll the tackle hot button issues from the economy, health care, foreign policy and much more. no subject off limits. so let me welcome our audience. the world will be yours soon. let's start with president obama. show of hands. how many think the president has done -- he's in his fifth year now -- a good b job. hands up. one, two, three, four, five,

six, seven. how many think he's done a poor job? seven. right along ideological lines. how many think health care is good for the country, obama care as it is presently -- same seven. against? let me play a clip. i think this touches on where you guys are. this is obama talking about the debt and deficit. roll the tape. >> we are starting to get health care costs under control. we'll still have to make modifications when it comes to our long-the term entitlement programs so they are there for young people when they are ready for retirement. but we don't have an urgent deficit crisis. the only crisis we have is one that's manufactured in washington. it's ideological. >> we don't have an urgent deficit crisis. how many agree with that? two. 16.7 trillion dollars in debt.

$90 trillionle in unfunded liabilities. guess who's going to pay it off? what do you think? >> i'm really disappointed in the president, especially on the issue of obama care. he said it would decrease costs and actually at uva this year, this week they said actually next year they will have to cut $7.3 million from the uva health insurance plan because of the increaseded costs that come with implement ing baobama care. i'm outraged that this thing the and congress promised would be beneficial to americans and help decrease health care costs are actually increasing t it. and the burden of the huge debt will be on our generation. >> adam, democrat, notre dame. how did you get to notre dame? >> i worked hard in high school. >> good for you. >> hard work, individual responsibility. don't re-eli on others.

>> i re-elied on my parents, my school. takes a village. can i respond to what she said? affordable care is peing implement ed now. you have to understand a lot of the -- >> the lowest increase? >> yes. >> california is going up 164%. we have ohio. his state is going up 80% health care costs. florida going up 40%. four state wills see a decrease. the president said every everybody would see a $2500 decline. >> the thing about it is everyone -- those are the biggest states you are talking about having a decrease. health care costs are still rising. hopefully with the pilot projects through medicare and the demonstration to change health care to promote quality over quantity we'll see lower health care costs. >> the president promised you that you would pay $2500 less per family.

that's not true. does it bother you? >> sir, i think t with the health care costs will increase but they are going slower because of obama care. it's not going to go down precipitously. >> yes, ma'am? >> the affordable care act, as i call it, i do believe it is helping us. as a young person i am still benefitting from being on my parents' insurance. we concentrate on what it's t not doing. it's really good to focus on cost effectiveness as we mentioned what's lowering and going up and increasing. i think another idea is that it hasn't been fully implemented yet. we are jumping the gun. >> from ohio state. >> just to get back to that clip. we were talking about the deficit and debt crisis. if i'm not mistaken the cbo reported that obama care would add $1.5 trillion to the debt i. as of right now that's over $53,000 per citizen to pay off the debt.

that's not even taxpayers. plus $27,000 of debt we have now. >> this president said about the debt when running for office -- we have a $10 trillion debt. that's irresponsible. that's reckless. he's given $7 trillion more you're a democrat from harvard. >> i am. >> the president makes promises. the debt goes up $7 trillion. is that bush's fault? >> republicans are pointing to obama care as the driver of debt. obama care reduce it is debt. look at the cbo. they say it reduces debt. >> do you remember how much the president said obama care would cost? >> $900 billion. >> who said that? right number. do you know what the latest estimate is? >> tell me . >> $2.8 trillion. name me one government program that doesn't cost more than what they projecteded it as. >> you go ahead. university of california

berkeley. >> i think this debate is misplaced. this is a republican plan coming from a republican think tank that's supported by a majority of republicans as long as the term obama isn't tied to it. >> this bill passed -- do you remember scott brown was elected? wasn't he supposed to be the 41st vote? they passed it before christmas in the dark of night and used reconciliation. how do you call it a republican plan when not a republican voted for it? >> they show 78% of republicans support banning insurance companies from denying your coverage based on pre-existing conditions. 80% of republicans support the insurance ex change s that president obama is setting up and 86% of republicans support making sure -- >> you don't like republicans, do you? >> making sure insurance companies can't deny you coverage when you're sick. >> do you think republicans want grandma to die? >> remember the ads with paul

ryan pushing granny over the cliff? their plan is for dirt air and water? do you think we want that? >> i do know the plan is making sure more americans have health insurance. there are more people that have health insurance now because of president obama's plan. >> okay. but you're going to pay for it. $16.7 trillion in debt. $7 trillion is obama. you will spend life paying for it. doesn't it bother you? it bothers you. why? >> it shows how irresponsible the government is heading. we need ed to take measures to stop that. why is this debt being placed on us and our oh children and our children's children's burden. >> you will work your lives to pay this back. >> we were talking about the federal debt and deficit. under obama the deficit decreased as a percentage of gdp more than any other time. >> not true. >> yes, it is. >> highest -- from 2009 to 2012

it's gone from 10% to decrease to 7%. that's the largest decrease. >> university of texas, let's straighten this out. >> in the terms of a deficit, obama raised a lot of debt his first year. 10.7% of gdp in 2009. this year it's 5.7%. the president could say he reduced his own deficit if that's the route we want to go. in terms of congress, i want to get back to that, right after fourth of july, obama administration, his treasury department unilaterally delayed employer mandates and congress went in and wanted to actually legally authorize the president to do it and the president called that unnecessary. >> what other option is there? >> i have heard people talk about the free market. it has absolutely no the safety net . absolutely -- excuse me. i'm the talking. let me finish. >> go ahead. >> if i'm in charge of my money

i'm responsible. i know what's better for what i want to do with my money than someone else who doesn't know -- >> do you know of a government in the world that does that? >> we'll come back. we have to take a break. more of this special edition of "hannity" featuring college students. more straight ahead. [ indistinct conversations ]

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welcome back to "hannity." i'm joined by a bipartisan group of college students, recent grads. half republican, half democrat. no topic off limits.

let me edebt and deficit. you want your health care taken care of by the government, right? but then you have another problem. we have $90 trillion in unfunded liabilities. i it's unsustainable. you all studieded math, went to good colleges. you've got to balance this. help me out between paying the money back and get ing the government you say you believe in. >> i want to say one thing about how our country has been run in the last five years. first of all, we were hit by the great recession. when you are hit by a great recession, the worst thing to do is have an austerity plan. cut budget is the worst thing to do. >> according to who? >> 101 keynesian economics. you need to invest in the economy. >> what about the stimulus? did that create jobs? >> more than 3.5 million jobs. that's nonpartisan congressional budget analysis.

without the stimulus it wouldn't have been a recession. it would have been a depression. >> of all the jobs some 70% of them are part-time jobs that paid minimum wages. listen -- >> many employers, to get out of requirements of the law are taking full-time people and making them part-time. >> that is unfortunate. thank you for bringing that up, republican from princeton. it's unfortunate when you see universities or private institutions trying to get around the regulations clearly designed to help the working class. i think president obama proposed an extremely reasonable plan of debt reduction that involves cuts to spending. what president obama and the democrat party aren't willing to do is balance the budget on the backs of the poor and the working class. there is a difference. >> you say it. i'm listening with fascination. >> okay. >> he's the only president to ever give us a trillion dollar

deficit in a year. >> george w. bush? >> no. his last year was $458 billion. >> when president obama took office in 2008 after eight years of shaky economic policies under george w. bush we got an economy in freefall . >> five years later? he's had five years to fix it. five years. >> we were losing jobs at a rate of 750,000 a month. >> all right, berkeley. come on. >> this is the worst economic crisis since the great depression. of course it will take longer than five years. we have come a long way. we started at a peak of 10.1% unemployment and we are down to 7.4%. >> let me give you other economic numbers. we have doubled the number of americans on food stamps. we have more people on welfare than we have had since the great depression. we have the lowest labor participation rate we have ever had. you're tell ing me the i economy is better. we have one in five children in america in poverty.

one in six americans in poverty. when is obama going to fix it? go ahead. >> first of all, why are republicans then saying we should be cutting $20 billion in food stamps? why are they saying we should cut assistance to the poor? >> here's a republican. >> i have to say two things. you say of course it will take more than five and a half years. obama said if he didn't have it done in four he wouldn't run for a second term. unfortunately he didn't cash in on that. second of all, shoutout to ohio here. governor kasic turned an $8 billion deficit into a surplus. unemployment since he took office went from 9 to 7.2% which is below the national average. people are still trying to give credit to obama for that. >> do you want to answer that? >> i was going to point out that under governor jerry brown, $26 billion deficit -- >> good grief. >> turned into a budget surplus. no one expected it. but californians were able to

pass a tax increase on themselves in order to fund education. >> so 40% top rate nationally for income tax. california is 13 -- 39%. california is 13.5%. that raises an important question we'll ask in the next segment. how much is too much to pay in taxes? we'll take a break. more of the t bipartisan group of incredibly bright and talented college students as we continue. [ male announcer ] introducing new fast acting advil. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the white box.

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welcome back to this special edition of "hannity." our college forum featuring a bipartisan studio audience of college students and recent grads. how many are ready to enter the work place? all right. are you going to start working, paying taxes. after you pay your state, local, federal, property, sales tax, how much of every dollar -- the president talks about fair share. how much of every dollar should you be able to keep? >> the majority of it. that's not the case now. >> depends on the state. >> give me a number. you work hard. pay your taxes. out of every dollar, how much should you keep? >> i'm more worried about student loans and democrats are helping out. >> you're ducking the question.

you went the to school, studied. you're paying student loans back. you make a dollar. how much should you pay to the government and how much should you keep after your hard day at work? 50%, 60%? >> whatever i deserve. i don't know. >> what do you deserve? >> you're trying to trap me. >> what do you think? >> 75% to 80%. >> if you make $100, taking $50 impacts them more than if you take $50 million from someone with $100 million. >> if uh you don't know it, half of america pays no federal income taxes. zero. did i say no taxes? listen closely. i said no federal income taxes. >> that doesn't mean they don't pay sales tax, medicare and social security? >> i was clear. they get social security back supposedly. my question is how much should you as a college grad keep out of every dollar you make.

>> it how much the government provides to me . >> you democrats are ducking. >> we should pay in taxes what our government spending as a percent of gdp. >> at what point is it obnoxious and confiscatory. >> people in california keeping 40%, that's outrageous. people are going to work, working hard. >> i agree with you. that's an honest answer. >> 85 to 90%. i worked two job this is summer at a camp in north carolina and a tutor for a 4th grader. i worked hard for that money. i feel i should be able to keep most of the money. >> most of it. georgia bulldogs. how you doing? >> doing good. i think 75 to 80%. >> 25% goes to the government. what do you think? >> i should be able to keep most of it. enough to fund the core functions of the government. >> nadia?

>> you don't think i will give you a straight answer on this. >> every republican has answered and every democrat ducked. >> it's not a clear issue. >> it is. >> i have worked and it's hard to get my pay stub back and see what they are taking for taxes and social security. it hurts a little bit. >> a little bit? >> at the same time i realize that i take public transportation to get to my school. there are nice roads and bridges -- >> don't you pay to get on the bus? >> they are funded by the government. >> you cross a fwlij new york it's $13 each way. >> i question the premise of the question. i would say you get 100% of every dollar you make. no t matter how much you pay, you get it back in police, firefighters, s.e.a.l. teams. >> what about the people that pay nothing? >> no one is paying nothing. >> excuse me. yes, there are.

there are americans that benefit -- you can get benefits to the tune of $35,000. there was a reevent cato incident study. >> oh, cato incident. >> it's a think tank. when you get food stamps, the wic program and everything else it's $35,000 you get back. >> we should pay in what we spend. you have to talk about spending and taxes in the same question. it's not black or white. >> if you confiscate the wealthiest american's money you couldn't fund this government. >> because of globalization, technological advancement the wealthy are doing well while the middle class and poor haven't done as well. >> you believe in redistribution. >> i'm talking. please. >> yes, sir. >> i think because they benefitted from this they should pay more. >> you still haven't answered the question. >> i have. >> how much should evil rich people. >> they're not evil. >> excuse me, my father does

well. he's not evil. >> how much should he keep? >> we have to talk about spend ing and the taxes. >> i'm not asking that. you don't want to answer my question. no democrat wants to. next. syracuse. >> same thing he said. >> no democrat wants to answer. >> i will answer your question. if i have to pay 50% of what i make and public schools will be funded, fire department will be good, the police will keep me safe for the rest of my life, i will pay 50%. >> if you live in california it's 60 cents of every dollar. >> that's okay with me. >> new york is okay. what about 70? >> can i finish and tell you why? if you pay high taxes you should have a return. we need to invest more. you mentioned -- >> gator. >> sean, the return on every dollar should be at least 85 cents. as college students we feel the money coming out of our taxes. at the end of the week we wonder why we don't have enough

spending that we have disposable income. it needs to be more reasonable. >> this is interesting. >> you don't have a government that works if you don't have high taxes. >> when you pay state, low call, federal, income, sales tax, property taxeses. you add it all together. i pay 60 cents of every dollar. >> what about the exclusion for employer sponsored health insurance? that's reegress sieve. it goes toward the well hi. >> we should have more services for the taxes we pay. we can talk about the price of college in other countries, unpopular countries for fox news. but they have high taxes and then also they have colleges that are 300 euros. they have colleges just as good as american colleges and health care benefits. >> some countries are doing well, you're right. other countries like spain, italy, portugal.

>> that's because of austerity. >> austerity was adopted because they are broke. >> they could have gone a different way and it wouldn't be as bad as it is now. >> more of the college forum rolling on with the bipartisan studio audience. we want to hear from you on hannitylive.foxnews.com. follow the live show. share your thoughts on the topics we discussed. you can join us on twitter. we will continue. ♪ [ male announcer ] may your lights always be green. [ tires reech ] ♪

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certainty about whether or not they are getting paid. i have staff in the white house. there's staff all across the country in rural areas working for ago culture, veterans affairs who are on the jobs despite the fact that they are t not getting paid or have been sent home and want to be on their b jobs. >> this morning i get "the wall street journal" out. it says we don't care how long this lasts because we're winning. this isn't some damn game. the american people don't want their government shut down and neither do i. >> the house will be in session tomorrow. tropical storm karen threatening the entire gulf coast. curfews for parts of plaqueminess parish in louisiana. karen is set to make land fall early saturday bringing three to ten inches of rainfall through sunday night. louisiana, alabama, mississippi

and florida have all declared a state of emergency. a destructive wildfire in southern california. the intense flames destroying homes just outside of los angeles. a red flag alert in effect for much of southern california. high winds and hot dry weather raised the threat of wildfire. now back to "hannity." >> welcome back to this special studio edition featuring college students and recent grads. i don't like that we are giving your generation more debt than has ever been passed down this this country. we are unfair to you. >> i think even on the panel is in college. i don't know fur financial situation but if you ask 25-year-old miss the work place having to support themselves how they feel about being taxed 60% to 70% and they know the true economic nature of our country,

i don't think they would agree as much as these young people to do. right now we are lucky enough to be at prestigious schools. >> we're privileged to be at the top universities in the country. a lot of americans don't go to college. they work through community college, don't go to college and pay hard-earned tacks. a lot of times they don't see the benefits y'all described. that's why they're mad. i think they have the right to be mad. they are subsidizing our education in a way. >> i paid my own way to college. i went to college a year, dropped out. went to college a year, dropped out. then i got into radio and didn't finish. but i worked as a dishwasher, cook, busboy, bartender, laid tile, framed houses, did roofing. hung wallpaper and painted pay my way. i think younger people expect

the government to do things, nadia. >> no, no, no. >> you think the government has to take care of you. >> one thing we need ed to realize and i'm glad we are excited about this and having fun, but we are t not so different from one another -- democrats and republicans. none of us think it is a good thing to have a deficit problem. we are all trying to solve it. the difference between democrats and republicans is the democrats think it's important to fund the supplemental nutrition assistance program more than give huge sums to companies like monsanto. >> i'm a conservative. end all corporate welfare. >> i'm with you, sean hannity. >> reduction of the deficit is what we want to do. look at how we have done it. sequestration was passed. that was not leadership. we survived that. we can cut the deficit that way. there are effect s to this. people are losing jobs. create a culture for business where no one wants to bring their business to the united

states. you have a legislative agenda which is null and void, not written. creating a culture where no one wants to do business. a young person about to get a job. that's what i'm worried about. taxeses, education loans, health care. >> if i told you -- and i want to go back to you nadia -- if i said we could balance the budget in six years by cutting one penny of every dollar the government spend s, do it every year for six years. one penny of every dollar and keep the budget the same and balance the budget is that a common sense plan to rid the country of deficits? >> it sounds too good to be true. >> it's true. the problem is every year the government increases spending 5 to 7%. >> it sounds great to take a penny of every dollar. it doesn't sound like a lot.

but when you are talking about a government that costs trillions, one penny of every dollar amounts to huge sums for money that benefits poor people, programs that help people. >> it means you don't have to pay the money back throughout your entire working life. >> my issue is the plan is you don't take inflation into account. >> it does. >> no, it doesn't. you say a penny. that's not taking inflation into account. that's what paul ryan does and things like that. >> you're missing the point. if you're not willing the to cut a penny out of every dollar. kbed, harvard. >> i don't think students should drop out of college because they can't pay for i. >> one penny out of every dollar? >> we need more into programs like student loens and obama care. it makes economic sense. if you fund student loans, lower the student loan rate rather than raising it as republicans wanted to do these people would be higher earners and able to

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how many of you favor abortion on demand? i said abortion on demand. relax. >> i favor a woman's right to make medical decisions about her own body. that decision should be between a doctor -- >> and the government has no right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body? >> the government should protect that right as the it was laid out in roe versus wade. >> but the government can step in 8 months into pregnancy and prevent that? >> you know, after a certain point it's not safe. >> what point? >> for that procedure to be done. >> what point? >> i'm not a doctor yet, so i don't know. talk to me in a couple of years. >> would you say if a baby is viable, does the baby deserve protection -- life, liberty and pursuit of happiness? >> what we need to talk about is why this is such a difficult issue. it's the balance between -- >> i asked you a question. i said if the baby is viable and can live alone outside the woman. >> you call i it a baby. i call it a fetus.

>> you call it a baby with constitutional rights. >> at 8 months the child inside a woman's body is viable. can live outside the womb. if a woman chooses to have an abortion are you okay with that? >> it's unrealistic. no one is getting an abortion at 8 months. >> it happens. it i happens. i'm asking because we can walk back. three months, two, one? >> what's scary is seeing people in congress and the government are saying that abortion completely should be illegal. when you say that you're restricting somebody's possibility of having their own body -- >> should there be restrictions in your view? >> no. >> 9 months into pregnancy a woman can have an abortion. >> no. when i hear members of congress who are accusing women who take birth control of being prostitutes -- because i have heard that from members of -- >> that's an ignorant statement.

there are statements that seemingly get pushed on conservatives. i don't care what people do in the privacy uh of their own bedrooms. it is none of any business. do you agree with that? anybody disagree? you disagree ? >> i'm putting my hand down. >> gay marriage. how many of you support gay marriage? republicans supporting gay marriage? >> i do. i'm the chairman of oh college republicans. this year in virginia it was a huge swing state. we saw tons of voters in virginia who thought obama was doing a terrible job with the economy and after college they were like, we're not going to get a b job and move in with with our parents. they still vote ed to re elect them. we asked why and the issue was gay marriage most of the time. they had friends, relatives, themselves who wanted to get married some day. if mitt romney who tried to avoid social issues, he did a good job but the fact is he was

against gay marriage and people valued that. >> do you feel the same way? >> maybe because i'm from u.t. austin. it's a different climate there. i talk to a lot of oh young republicans. we are for marriage equality. i made a conservative argument. the families in this country are broken. we need more families. whether that's retro sexual families, homosexual families, we need families to maintain societal cohesion. >> you're a democrat -- any republicans support gay marriage? >> i think the union of marriage the something to be protected, but what we can do is expand civil uh liberties -- excuse me, civil unions. invite gay couples who love each other and want to spend life together to have the rights married couples do. >> let me move on to immigration. >> you disagree? >> that sounds like separate but

equal to me. it's marriage in everything but name because we don't want to touch that. >> republicans in my opinion will never win the youth vote. i don't think they will ever win another election if they don't support gay marriage, in my opinion. >> the issue is gay marriage and marriage equality, don't ask, don't tell. it's not about pandering to a demographic. for democrats and people who identify as liberal. it is about doing the right thing. >> it can't just be marriage, too. it's important but it's only one small part. just as if not more important is end ing discrimination, passing enda, making sure there is equality. marriage is just one small part. >> i personally think government needs to stay out of religious institutions. marriage being a religious institution it needs to stay out. civil unions is one thing. as far as calling it gray marriage. >> more with our forum of college students as "hannity" continues. note,

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welcome back to the college forum. immigration. how many of you think those who ent erred the country without respecting american law and sovereignty should be able the to get citizenship. raise your hands. >> depends. >> on what? >> on if they have shown they have been in this country for a long time and they are being economically productive, trying to live out the american dream by coming here. i would like to see more republicans supporting comprehensive immigration re form. i think it will be a hot issue to win the latino vote. >> how many think we should secure the border first to end the problem? >> i agree with that. >> who else? >> you agree as a democrat. interesting. >> there is a bill on the floor that hasn't been voted on that was written by chuck schumer. it's bipartisan with republicans and democrats. i think this is not as good a bill as i would pass, but i think it is one of the major steps toward having

comprehensive immigration reform. >> so secure the border first. >> that's one of it. >> what if they say, okay , you didn't respect the laws and sovereignty. we'll let you stay, but no citizenship. is that okay? >> no. >> they have to get citizenship. >> people have been in this country for -- so many kids i went to high school came in at a young age. they grew up as americans, deserve to be americans. >> that flies in the face of the people who respect the laws of americans. they should improve the time it takes to become an american citizen. we have this long process where it takes years to become an american citizen. instead of giving amnesty to these illegal immigrants improve the system so we don't have to take eight, nine years to become a citizen of the united states. >> should we send them back? >> he's asking. >> >> i don't think we should send them back. don't make them citizens. >> all right.

let me ask this question. race relation s in america. who laughed? somebody did. has america made enough progress or are we still divided? how many say very divided? okay. in the back. go ahead. obviously i'm a black person. i walk in this world every day. i don't feel -- it would appear there is this idea of color blindness. like i don't see color. there is an idea of a level playing field especially for me being a person in higher education. it looks like i have equal benefits to many of my white peers. that's not the same. i experience things that are very different, right? >> you think most americans are racist? >> do i think most americans are racist? no. >> do you think they are they are racial? >> do i think most are educated on privileges they receive due to race? i definitely do not think people

understand what it means to be privileged in this country based on race. >> you're saying privilege. >> beyond white privilege. privilege across the board. >> go ahead. >> sean, i think as an immigrant in this country to the united states i believe in the hard work they put in reflecting your karkh ter. when i walk down the street it is a different relationship i have with people. but i'm working hard, getting ahead based on my work, not re-eliing on others. >> interesting. >> can i say something about stop and frisk? i grew up in new york city and i have african-american friends who have been stopped by cops, i think one of my friends was stopped over 200 times in four years. this is something you can't ignore as a new yorker, an american. you cannot ignore the issue in this country about race. thank god that stop and frisk was considered unconstitutional.

because it is. >> look at the -- regardless of how you feel about it. the stand your ground. 50% of the t time the older white man self-defends and kills a younger black person they are let off 50% of the time. when it is an older black person killing a younger white boy it's 10% of t time. >> the zimmerman case wasn't about the stand your ground, the stand your ground statute benefitted black floridians much more than white floridians. they have used it successfully in the court as a defense. >> but it works against them. only 10% -- >> no, no. over 70% of the time. >> i would like to see that statistic. >> i will give it to you soon. >> i want to ask my peers. for our generation we speak in terms of, you know, people in the media or people who are way older than us. i look around campus today and a lot of times we self-segregate

ourselves. different es ethnic groups in different student organizations, multicultural centers. we are thinking about in 2013 we want the to move ahead. but on college campuses we tend to have programs -- >> is that true? >> a lot of racial resentment issues i have seen even at my university have come from effects of affirmative action. white people believe a lot of the minority students are are only there because they got in on the basis of ethnicity. >> that's not true. that's an assumption people shouldn't make. >> it's true. i think there definitely are remaining race issues. >> you have been a great audience. i especially liked pushing you. seriously. i feel like we have bonded. you're not going to convert me to karl marx. what i'm encouraged about is you

are engaged and informed as you are. that's encouraging to me. what i uh i'm concerned about ms the opportunity i have had in my life will be available for you. how many of you worry about the american dream not being there for you? hands up. how many disagree. how many think it is there. no problem. yes. just because i went to nyu doesn't mean -- >> the american dream for me is kind of this idea that's been brought up. to me it's only about hard work. it's what you put in. it's not a dream. it should be something available to everybody. if you work hard, pay taxes and get a lot back from the government you have a lot of opportunities then you can succeed. it's wonderful to succeed. i hope everybody in the room succeeds from hard work not the idea of a dream. >> no one disagrees with it. everyone wants the american dream to be there.

it's been said before and should be said again there is far more that unites us than divides us. this is a perfect example. you were talking about working your way through college. you think you pulled yourself up by your boot straps. it's amazing, awesome and what everybody should do. we differ on how to get there. >> the problem you will have and i will say this, my hope for you all because i want you all the to succeed, even the liberals, especially him. once you start the paying the taxes, i want you to come back and we'll talk. i'm worried all this debt, we have conditioned the american people to think the government is the answer. if i can give you a small piece of advice, this goes to what you were saying. the more you depend on yourself and work hard, as she was saying, the more likely you will be successful. i'm telling you. when you look outside yourself the government can't save you. that's my only bit of advice. you have been great. congratulations to you.

you all go to great colleges. give yourselves a big hand. you did a great job. thank you all. that's all the time we have left. as always, thanks for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. the news continues. we'll see you back here soon on "hannity." tonight, 94 hours. that's how long your government has been shutdown. today speaker boehner clobbering the obama administration over the head with the wall street journal which reported that the anonymous administration official said, we're winning. >> this morning, i get "the wall street journal out" and it says we don't care how long this lasts because we're winning. this isn't some damn game. >> there is no winning. when families don't have certainty about whether they are going to get paid or not. >> the shutdown closing national parks and mon mens for a fourth day. today it got worse at the world war ii memoria