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bear: hi! yeah, we love visitors. that's why we moved to a secluded house in the middle of the wilderness. just the right coverage at just the right price. coverage checker from progressive. this is a fox news alert. forget about the government shutdown, the essential employees otherwise known as navy s.e.a.l.s are on the job. i'm geraldo rivera reporting. u.s. special operatives hit hard in somalia and separately at long last also in libya. here's what we know first about the raid in somalia with the target being al-shabab. the terror group that carried out the bloody raid in nay row bee, kenya, two weeks ago. and the violent operation that ended up capturing a high-value al-shabab leader the s.e.a.l.s
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were forced to withdraw after coming under heavy fire. the second raid carried by fbi agents and others was a successful snatch and grab in libya where senior u.s. officials are confirming that the mastermind of the 1998 bombings of our embassies in east africa, a anas al-liby was captured. al-liby is on the fbi's most wanted list and carried a $5 million bounty on his head. with me in washington, lieutenant colonel schaeffer who was in east africa and now a senior advise tore the newly formed national commission on intelligence and foreign wars. colonel, welcome, so good you could be with us on last notice. no u.s. casualties in either operation. tell us what you know first about what went down in somalia. >> well, somalia, first off, was
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typical of the navy s.e.a.l.s going in and using stealth as their primary protection. essentially, going into a very tight space, going after a single individual who they believe was the leader of the west gate mall attack, he planned it. and the good news, as you mentioned, this is precision and surgical. and they scored some big points. and i think this is the important thing to remember, that this shows that we're back in the game. the other thing here, i think, why we're doing this now so rapidly, two reasons, first, we just passed the 20th anniversary of black hawk down. you saw the circumstance back in '93, so i think this anniversary clearly meant something to our guys. and there's a good suspicion that the al-shabab guys were u.s. men, so i think this is a great move forward. this is what we should be doing. we should be using this over drones any time we can.
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>> i agree that it was a great mission. i don't know how many we killed, we didn't capture the bad guy, the al-shabab guy, but in libya, colonel, this al-liby had american blood on his hands. how big of a deal is his capture? >> al-liby has been a guy we have been after for a long time. he was one of the perpetrators. we have known for a while that he was the guy who directed this, and the fact that we captured him, geraldo, is significant. you probably know this, this is an extraordinary rendition between the fbi, cia and frankly the department of defense. you always have the department of defense security coming in to help get these guys out. so this worked well. this guy will now be coming back to stand trial. and as my friend on the commission with me talks about the fact that so many of these guys aught to be brought back and held to account. this individual will now be held into account, going through our
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federal system of trial, and i think clearly he's going to be brought to justice. >> colonel, i look forward to seeing al-liby being led into this town, dragged into that court and condemned or sentenced to life in the bottomless pit of some federal penitentiary someplace. colonel, thank you very much. the bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, on today's raids in africa, if you attack the united states, we're going to hunt you down, it may take a while, but whether there's a republican or democrat in the white house, our warriors will kill you or capture you. and to the benghazi militia who killed our ambassador and three other heroes a year ago, we're coming for you, too, because america doesn't forgive and we never forget. and who could forget that horrifying video of the family terrorized last sunday by the biker gang in new york. and now comes word that undercover and/or off-duty new york cops were riding with the biker mob!
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craig investigates right now. >> reporter: biker madness on the streets of new york city. it was a scene reminiscent of the old mad max movies. last sunday dozens of bikers hunted down 33-year-old alexian lien and yanked him from his range rover after they smashed his windows. his wife and 1-year-old watched terrified. the bloody incident happened on this upper side of the upper highway with thousands of bicyclists blocking traffic. christopher cruz pulled in front of lien's suv. the two collided and cruz went down. >> at first no one's paying attention to the suv, they were watching cruz. then a couple of people were around the car angry and are telling him, you see, this is what happens when you [ bleep ] talk. >> reporter: jose was riding with the group. >> one individual hit the back of the car.
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>> reporter: slashed tires? >> no, the slashed tires came later. >> reporter: it is unclear if lien is panicked or enraged when he guns his engine to escape the masked bikers. >> they were angry because they were trying to slow this man down. because he was driving erratic. to add insult to injury, he said, screw you, i'm going to hit you anyway. >> reporter: the video shows the suv rolling over and crushing one of the bikers. >> as a result of that violent confrontation between the motorcycle riders and the suv on manhattan's upper west side, one rider is now in the hospital with broken legs and spinal injuries likely to leave him paralyzed. the victim, edward mieses, is no angel. he has no driver's license and a lengthy record. arrests most recently on may 24th in andover, massachusetts, he has dozens of violations. so many that this june he's named a habitual offender. his right to drive revoked until
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2017. his family says it is no excuse for him being run down by the rover. >> edwin mieses jr. is an innocent victim trying to help the driver of the suv when he was run over. >> reporter: celebrity attorney gloria allred is now threatening to sue the lien's for hit-and-run. >> he told everyone to move on and go back to riding. and he turned his back to the suv to start walking back to his own bike. it was then with his back to the suv and as he was in front of it that he was runover and crushed. >> reporter: don't you think that driver was scared with that massive group of motorcycles surrounding his car, he's trying to get through and they are not letting him, blocking him. can you see in his mind he might think he's in danger? >> i can understand how someone could feel that way. >> we made an arrest of the individual who slows down his
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motorcycle in front of the suv. the vick tim has been arrested for reckless endangerment and also charged with endangering a child and reckless driving. >> reporter: cops also arrest the man seen pummeling the driver of the rover who was treated for knife wounds and lacerations to his back and face. >> it was not meant to get all crazy, however, there's really no way to govern that many people. and you can't say what one person's going to do against another. >> reporter: we saw on camera, you were blocking cars, you get mad at them and you kick the doors and stuff like that, that's frightening. >> like i said, when you have a group of 3,000 individuals, you can't govern what everyone does. had all the riders had bad intentions, there's no way that the range
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>> do you realize what you're doing is illegal? breaking laws? speeding, running lights? >> i agree. >> so how do you justify it? >> i'm not justifying that nor condoning that. i'm just speaking about what happened. >> look at you guys. you're big. you're tough. you could see how you might invoke some fear in a person driving down the street. >> well, there's always fear in something you don't know about. to make matters worse, an off-duty nypd officer has come forward to admit that he was among the pack of bikers who chased the lien family up the upper west side to this city street where lien was pulled from his car and beaten. as a result of this incident, police have threatened to arrest or confiscate the motorcycles of anyone who gathers in a large
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group. geraldo, back to you. >> craig, thanks. the nypd says that it is investigating what role if any that off-duty cop or cops played in last sunday's road rage attack. so what's with these biker gangs? you saw those guys there. you see these people everywhere in every city across the country, whether they're cops or dentists or teachers or rock stars or criminals, once they put on those leathers something happens. they're channelling, i think, the hells angels. don't miss tonight's trip into the geraldo vault after this. [ male announcer] surprise -- you're having triplets.
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of the 1960s and 1970s for drug dealing and kidnaping and murder and other criminal conspiracies, the biker gangs attracted everyone from mick jagger and the rolling stones to jerry garcia and the grateful dead. and whatever the bikes do in real life, some in today's gangs or gangettes are day dreaming of being big bad hell's angels. so let's take a trip almost 40 years back in time into the geraldo vault for a look at the real thing. >> i know that man. maybe we'll get killed. but you know what, we're going down fighting. i know this man. i don't have to look to see he's there. i know he's there and he knows i'm there. we've got each other. >> you didn't get the message, did you, baby? run along. this is private property. >> my first guests are both presidents of different charters of the hell's angels motorcycle clubs. sitting next to me is sidney
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alexander, the president of the new york city charter. next to sandy is decon proudfred president of the oakland, california chapter. deacon, what are the hell's angels to you? >> well, it's a family. >> brotherhood of men. >> how so, sammy? >> a brotherhood of men. like it takes a man to be a hell's angel. >> what is your definition of a man? >> a man, somebody that stands up for what he believes in. >> jerry garcia met the hell's angels in the mid 1960s when ken kesey had them over to his place for a party. >> not too many people you meet you can say wow, there's somebody who's like really serious about what they're doing. whatever they're doing. >> the hell's angels are generally known as an outlaw motorcycle club that has had numerous brushes with the law. does any of those kinds of things affect the way you feel about them?
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>> no. because i'm sort of an outlaw space myself. you know what i mean? i'm no heavy duty outlaw. but i'm a bust. i've been busted. i've been in jail. i know all that stuff. and i'm doing that because i feel strongly enough about it to do it and i don't care if i have to get popped for it. there's like might be a point where i would care. i might not want to die. but i would be willing to get popped anyway. you know what i mean? it depends on how committed you are. but hell's angels are committed on a very heavy level. i can really appreciate that. you know what i mean? >> are you you afraid of them ever? >> sure. sure. >> why? >> because they're scary, man. they're all big and strong and good in all the violent spaces. they got that covered. i mean, scary is one of the things hell's angels are. >> vinny, stand up a second. let people see. how much do you weigh, vin? >> 320. >> what do you have back here?
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you don't mind if i -- >> no, help yourself. >> what do you use it for? >> peeling bananas and oranges, stuff like that. [ cheers and applause ] >> it's extremely difficult to make a valid comment about the hell's angels especially when a couple of dozen of them or so are sitting in your studio but let me try. the secret i think lies in something sandy alexander said earlier about the movie "the wild ones." he said that the angels identify not with the compassionate misunderstood character portrayed by marlon brando but rather with the big bad guy played by lee marvin. an arrogant and even sadistic bully. there's a brutally casual, seemingly indiscriminate and almost inevitable violence about them. it's as much a part of the hell's angels world as their motorcycles. when a group of them get together, they seem like barely
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tamed wild animals. at times you can ask them to roll over or jump through hoops. and you can even put your head in their mouths. but it doesn't take much cause, real or imagined, for them to abandon the thin veneer of civilization and turn again to the natural state, as jerry garcia said, scary is what the hell's angels are. >> i've been a lifelong biker. and i know that most of us are law abiding before. up you can't deny that the scary outlaw mystique is at least part of the attraction of riding in a pack. and speaking of packs, millions are skipping cigarettes and turning to vapor pens including the pot heads. that's next.
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is a less harmful all the. >> i have remember these are not fda approved and they are unregulated. >> it's also important to remember that there are lots of big tobacco companies that are jumping into this market. their goal is not to help people quit smoking. their goal is to keep people addicted. >> you know, the dirty little secret of the internet. remember when the internet was invented? i believe much of its early expansion was driven by pornography. i think the same thing is happening with e cigarettes spreading like wildfire among pot smokers because they don't stink up the place the way a traditional joint does. bobby black here in the new york studio can tell us whether my thesis is correct. he's senior editor of high times magazine. that's the bible of pot users everywhere. while the lady to your right is called the martha stewart of marijuana. she's cheryl shoeman, the founder of the medical marijuana collective. so cheryl, you first. am i correct? do you believe that one of the reasons e cigarettes are taking
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off the way they are is that pot smokers are using them to beat getting busted because of the smell? >> well, i absolutely agree that ecigs or canacigs or vape pens are outrageously popular. they're expected to be a $100 million industry this year. so it's absolutely popular. and i also believe that yes, because of the former odor and so forth of smoking cannibis, vaporizers are a much healthier alternative for medical cannibis patients and it's a much healthier alternative to cigarettes, alcohol or pharmaceuticals. so to comply with a lot of building issues and restaurants and so forth, it's not only a safer alternative but it allows people to be very discreet with their cannibis usage, and also to be a polite cannibis consumer. >> and bobby, how does it work exactly? >> well, what you have is a number of different types of
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pens. different attachments. the standard e cigarette style comes with a nicotine fluid in it, which you would puff. this is a flavored nicotine g s glycerine solution. a standard e pen. the adaptations for the cannibis community, one for vegetative matter, for flowers. >> you mean like puffing a daisy? >> no. actual cannibis. or there's also pens that are designed specifically for cannibis concentrates. >> so what do you have in that one in your right hand? >> this is favored nicotine oil. >> so this is not cannibis or nil illegal. >> not at all. >> so do you light it with like a cigarette? >> you just hold the button in and you tech. hold the button on the center. there you go. and it tastes like caramel mocha. >> it does.
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so this is not smoke. >> no. that's vaporized nicotine glycerine solution. there are cannibis glycerine solutions as well. >> what about my thesis about pot smokers using this? is that what's driving this in your opinion? or is it that it's healthier, you're not putting fire in your lungs? >> i think it's both. i think that it is healthier. it is more convenient. it's better for certainly for medical marijuana patients who are in medical states. you're able to -- it's easier to use. it's easier to control your dosage. and it's much less -- rather than smoking a joint or a bong hit or something of that nature, you can just do one little puff of a cannibis concentrate and your pain is relieved instantaneously. >> house high times magazine doing? >> we're doing great. celebrating our 40th year next year. we have a big celebration planned. >> 40 years. so isn't it ironic that
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"newsweek" is fallen by the way side and high times is thriving? and cheryl, i don't know how long you've been in the marijuana game. but is it extraordinary to you how far society has come? >> oh, i absolutely agree. in fact, my vape pen, i am vaping cbd right now. the nonpsychoactive ingredient of the cannibis plant. >> in california everybody uses medical marijuana in california, even the doctors. thank you both. up next, you knew it would happen. government agents using their government agents using their virtually unlimited surveillance [ male announcer ] need help keeping your digestive balance in sync?
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american forces capturing an al qaeda leader liked to the bombings in east africa at the embassies. 'been wanted for more than a decade. in another raid this one led by navy sls it was aged at capturing an al qaeda suspect behind the recent mall attack in nairobi. officials saying they did not get their target but the commandos did engage al shabaab militants. no americans were hurt. still no end in sight for the partial government shutdown
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now entering its sixth day but good news for hundreds of thousands of furloughed federal workers. the house passed a bill to give them a retroactive pay once the government re-opens. the senate and president obama are expected to okay it. i'm marianne rafferty. now back to "geraldo at large." onto foxnews.com. she didn't have any political agenda. she didn't hate her country. she wa 't a terrorist. she did have a diagnosis of postpartum depression with psychosis. she was on medication. >> why was my sister shot and killed with her 1-year-old daughter in the car and she was unarmed? why? my mother deserves to know why. we deserve to know why. >> this is a fox news alert. according to her family you just heard 34-year-old miriam cary was suffering from postpartum depression when she rammed her car through that barrier at the white house, hitting the secret service agent and then race to
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go the capitol where she was killed in an salvo that tore her body apart. but whatever her actual diagnosis, we know that powerful anti-depression and anti-psychotic drugs were found in her stamford, connecticut condo where the father of her child told authorities that she believed the president of the united states was spying on her every move. and while miriam went off the deep end, millions of americans maybe have reason to be paranoid about their government. >> when it comes to spying, this is the lowest of the low. many of us since the edward snowden scandal have been worried about government spying and surveillance and so forth. but my biggest concern has always been the potential for individuals in the government to abuse the vast spy power they've been given to keep us safe instead for their own petty personal reasons like snoopg on their wives or snooping on their girlfriends. now we know it is happening. the inspector general of the nsa admitting in this letter to senator chuck grassley of at
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least a dozen incidents where agency employees have been caught gathering intelligence, gathering the dirt on their spouses or their girlfriends or people they had a crush on. here to comment on this latest outrage, the nation's foremost libertarian, judge andrew napolitano. judge, great to see you. >> always a pleasure my dear friend. >> we know of a dozen cases. there's got to be more. >> there's a lot of troubling aspects to this. first of all, the snooping outside the parameters of the fisa warrant is a felony. secondly we know the snooping has been going on for a couple of years and that it was well-known to general alexander, the director of the nsa. and general alexander testified under oath after he knew this that no snooping was going on. he has the potential perjury problem. moreover, the nsa is so out of control that are going to have a problem with the congress. the reason they're out of control is, we learned in just the past week that not only are
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they capturing the digital versions of phone calls, text and e-mails, they're also getting utility bills, banking statements and credit card bills without being able to demonstrate any authority for doing that whatsoever. this is too much knowledge in the hands of the government. and the constitution, you know it as well as i. you know it better than i. never trusted that kind of knowledge in the hands of the government absent a specific warrant about a specific person committing a specific crime. >> i think the agency, the nsa, will come to be regarded as really a rogue agency. focusing on this love int, they call it. use it to find out whether your wife is cheating on you or your boyfriend is looking at the neighbor or your foreign affair is calling someone. i mean, i thought when i heard of the power when snowden and the wikileaks people. you can call them whatever you
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want. the fact of the there's no reason for them to get the conversations of 300 million americans, 99.9999% of whom are innocent and have nothing to do with this in order to get the one they're looking for. now we know they can't control themselves and they're using this for personal gaun. they need to follow the law and constitution. you're outraged. i'm outraged. some liberal democrats are outraged. some libertarian republicans are
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outraged. most of the country says, oh, well, privacy is gone. with that kind of attitude privacy will be gone. >> one of the reasons i seize on this you're snooping on your girlfriend aspect, a tiny sliver of the alleged abuses is i think it's something people can relate to. >> yes, yes, they can and why should anybody have to worry that their most private behavior will be in the hands of the government. you remember what stalin's chief of secret police said, show me the man and i'll show you the crime. there are 4500 federal criminal laws. these guys can find something if they want that any one of us violated because they know our innermost secrets, secrets the constitution never authorized them to possess. >> the scary thing is, judge, sometimes the people you hope were going to protect you are your most dangerous foe. >> who will protect us from the protectors. >> people like you. >> and you, get recall dough.
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>> carlos delgado. >> excellent choice. too bad he went out three rounds ago. >> in that case it turned out to be fan thely baseball instead of adultery that the suspicious spouse caught. but according to a massive new survey, over 22,000 people surveyed, as many as -- wait for the number -- 55% of all americans polled admit to spying on their significant others. how do they do it? let's ask two of the pros. darren gilio is chief detective at north american investigators. did i say it right there? >> investigations. >> investigations, that's right. meghan novak owns rko private investigations. >> hi. >> all right, hi, both of you. thanks for coming on. meghan, what about this high tech stuff? how many of the spouse that is
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you know who are snooping on their significant other are doing it with high tech stuff? >> by high tech -- most of it is through social media. facebook, instagram, twitter, all that type of stuff. as far as high tech, i don't know what you mean. >> so people go on facebook, do they think their spouses don't look at their facebook accounts? >> i think so. i think sometimes cheaters get a little bit sloppy and don't realize the girl that's always liking your picture is actually the girl you're fooling around with. the husband or wife will see that. >> so walk us through it. how typically does a facebook user abuser get busted? >> i'm sorry? >> i mean, do you have like a recipe for -- >> there's no recipe to anything. >> if your spouse does this or that with facebook this is what you do? >> no. there's no concrete answer to it. i mean, i guess if you actually got the access to their personal
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facebook if you looked into their inbox to see their messages, then that would be a concrete answer then it would lead you may be into hiring a private investigator. but i would say overall, just seeing who's actually liking your husband or wife's pictures and who's following them, what kind of relationship they have through social media because it actually might be something that's a real relationship in real life. >> all right. let's say i have suspicion about my spouse. when i come to you, what do you say? >> i would ask you what is your spouse doing that makes you have that gut feeling that you think that they are cheating. >> and then what? >> and then if they want to hire a private investigator i would talk them through glit then what do you do? do you trail them or go on their facebook accounts? in this day and age how do you do it? >> it's more surveillance. i personally specialize in surveillance. so it would be more i tail them. so it's about finding out -- >> you tail the suspected cheater. >> yes. yes. >> you actually follow them around. >> i do. >> yikes. >> i do that on a day-to-day
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basis. so it's more about -- >> i want you to think of some anecdotes for us. when i go to darren and ask you how facebook and twitter and social media has changed your business. >> i think that social media has increased the amount of cheating. a lot of people especially reconnect with their old high school boyfriends and girlfriends. because men and women cheat equally now. >> stop there. >> sure. >> so in the old days, the stereotype was it was always the man doing it. now that's not so. >> oh, it's equal now. >> so literally equal. >> yes. >> so a wife is as likely to cheat on her husband as a husband on a wife. >> absolutely. 50-50 pretty much i would say. absolutely. >> is it when the husband's at work or on the road? with the pool boy? what is it? >> we do surveillance is probably one of the best methods to find out if someone is actually cheating. good old-fashioned stuff. even though we use technology like tracking devices and stuff
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like that, following someone and really getting the black and white facts is what we specialize in. and that's how you can determine exactly what's going on with someone. and that's what we want to do. >> in this high tech arena, specifically, are you an expert in going through people's facebook and twitter accounts, et cetera? e-mail? >> sometimes we do. sometimes we go undercover in someone's facebook. you can kind of gain some intelligence through it. but again it's other methods. really finding a person when they're unaccounted for. >> do you bust into their rooms like they show in reality tv? >> no, that's illegal. you don't need to do that. it's pretty apparent. and when people really feel that somebody's cheating, 90% of the time it's true. >> really? if you suspect it, 90% of the time it's true. tell me a story. >> a story? i can't give a specific story. but i could say that most of the cases i've seen go from anything from the subjects meeting with the person that they're having a relationship with, having coffee
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at starbucks to going to a sleazy hotel room. so there's a big gap in between that. >> have you seen a change in your business, given all of the social media? >> i have. but i feel like it's more the client will do their own research through social media. and then once they find exactly what they're looking for, that is when they go to the private investigator to actually have them followed. >> so there's two statistics that are surprising to me. number one that wives now cheat equally with husbands. but the other one is that 55% of all spouses, do you buy that? they actually track their suspected adult erespouse? >> i absolutely agree with that. >> 55%? >> yes. >> are we that paranoid and suspicious? or is it that we're right? >> in my experience, by the time someone contacts us they're right. and it's really -- it's really increasing as time goes. >> so 55%. so i guess that 50% of all marriages end in divorce.
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i guess it's logical that is the main reason. do couples typically get divorced after you help the spouse catch them? >> a lot of times i tell people i'm not in the marriage wrecking business, i'm in the marriage saving business. because sometimes identifying the problem, why this happened in the beginning and -- is better for a couple and they thank me. some people they end up getting divorced. some people it saves their marriage and they get better relationships and communication out of it. >> and meghan? >> i'm sorry. what was the question? >> you got to pay attention. what are you watching a ball game? do your clients typically get divorced or do they stay together? >> i don't really note end results of it. i just pretty much gather the facts. >> you launch the fire bomb. >> they find a psychiatrist to help them go through the marriage. i get the evidence and give it to them then it's up to them to decide. maggetting a call from a friend or neighbor that they have just seen your picture on a porn web site. a neighbor calls you, they've seen your picture on a porn web site. you're going to meet these two
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ladies who have had exactly that experience after this. @@@!@!@
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were just asking for victims of physical rape say time and time you were just asking for it. same thing with revenge porn, you shouldn't have taken the pictures in the first place. >> my next guest becca wells on your left and holly on the right have had the frightening experience to find websites containing an array of explicit nude shots of themselves posted by men once in their lives but
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they never gave any permission for those photographs to be posted and they have caused them irreparable harm. on the web. >> in november, 2010, i googled my name and there was a website that claimed to have images of me. i thought it was spam but i clicked on it out of curiosity and came a page with gallery of all these nude photo offense me. i w i was shocked. my name was in bold letters along be city and state where i live. >> tell us how they came to be in the hand ofs of this person how they came to be published? >> this is somebody i was in a relationship with back in 2008. i had taken nude photos. i did recognize them as photos we had taken when we were in a relationship together.
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>> holly, how did you find out? how did the pictures come to be in the hands of this website that's been so arrogant and insensitive to you? >> i found out from a friend. she was out and about and she overheard people talking about this website and they were mentioning different names of people who they saw on there and saying their names and saying this was a site where you could go and post explicit photos of your ex-girlfriends or boyfriends. when she heard my name her ears perked up. she called me to ask me if i knew. i had no idea. my first reaction was it was a mistake because there was no way that i was posted on this website. i was completely mortified when opened the website. i was pretty much like front and center. i clicked on my name and the
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pictures just began to unfold. i didn't know how they got there. >> she joined a massive class action lawsuit. 25 young women, including herself suing the website texxxan.com. john, what exactly is your theory? they're not illegal. what's your theory? >> i've sued under texas state law invasion of privacy theories. i found out that generally speaking that the federal communications decency act provide a scope of immunity for the companies that host these sites. the case law said you can proceed in under state law theories. i have sued go daddy who hosted the site and the websites, the administrator, the webmaster and a host of individual defendants. people who we have identified so far that have actually up loaded
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the photographs. >> have you spoken to the man who did this to you? have you ever even heard the term revenge porn? >> back then it was in 2010 and there were barely any resources which made it even more de devastating. i did reach out to him. i gave him facebook message and he ignored it. he blocked me. i was unable to contact him after that. it's very frustrating. i just want to get started with this lawsuit because we're not able to find him. >> tell us how your life is effected by what happened with these photographs being posted. >> i will never get over the feeling of devastation. it's the most violent form of betrayal you can ever imagine.
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i was raped of my dignity which is one of the most important things that a woman has. this has effected my life on so many different levels. it's effected my dating life. i don't really trust people anymore. i've ahead people come up to me in town and they know who i am and i say i'll just google you. they know. >> i hope you get satisfaction from your lawsuit to the young people out there watching. i know this better than most, perhaps. no selfies, don't send them to anybody. don't let anyone take a nude photo of you. if you love me, do this. that's bs. holly, isn't that the real moral of the story? >> i don't think it's fair to just say you have no right to privacy and you just have to accept that so don't take any selfies and send them.
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right now, unfortunately, there are no laws. as it stands right now be perpetrators are protected and not the victims. you do have to be careful who you trust. >> holly to you and becca, thank you very much for sharing your stories. your stories of caution. we wish you the best. >> thank you. going back to where we started. i want you to know this guy is lawfully detained. it's official now by the united states military in a secure location outside of libya. we got him.
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