tv Media Buzz FOX News October 6, 2013 8:00am-9:01am PDT
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>> doctors are here every sunday. and now we have mediabuzz. the buzz beater this sunday morning, the government shutdown. >> today's top story, much of the federal government shutdown this morning. >> just under 2 million workers affected right now, and consequences for american families growing every day. >> veteran's disability claims will not be decided. >> but has the journalist eubg blame game been fair to the republicans challenging obama and the crusade against obama care. >> the idea that a small group of republicans have decided to shutdown the government over
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this -- >> no, that's not true. >> mainstream media just like last time and this time already putting it up there that it's the republicans, they are arsonist, and -- >> bullies. >> we will examine the coverage from all angles. the bizarre confrontation outside the capitol that left the disturbed woman dead. and pulling the plug on the television projects starring hillary clinton, after the gop promised to yank the 2016 debate. why did they cave and then the baseball playoffs, and is the ratings being shoved to the sidelines by sports. this is "media buzz."
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we love getting your tweets about the show. keep them coming. maybe i will read one before we get to the end of the program. we will get to the sad shooting around the capitol, but first, we have this, the cover of new york "dailey news" depicted a blood-stained john boehner as presiding over a house of turds. it has produced contentious interviews such as this one with cnn's ashleigh banfield. >> you are telling your listers that we are holding this up and the government is going to shut down. we have reached out democrats with a compromise -- >> congressman. that is not dare. don't you dire put this back on me, you know you have attached obama care and defunding it and you can't make something up.
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>> and then cruz ripped it on the o'reilly factor. >> it's what the mainstream medium does. >> rachel maddow says it's media out let's on the right distorting the story. >> while the rest of the government is marveling at shutdown, and the government is shutdown. on that day, here is the shutdown front page of the conservative paper. look at their front page. obama care drama. >> so is the shutdown can you have this. we have our fox news contributor that had a baby and came rushing in at the last minute -- >> just had the baby, right now? >> i like to get back on my feet
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fast. >> have you seen a contrast on how right leaning and left leaning medias are reporting the coverage? >> are you kidding me? some people say it's president obama's fault as you can see by all the sound bites you put up before this, and it's the small faction of evil republicans that have come on this mission to hurt everybody, but the consens consensus, if you look at it as a whole, it is -- people are saying more that it is those republicans, that small group of republicans. that's what you see in the majority of the coverage. >> are the mainstream media in your view buying the white house narrative that this is hostage taking of one political party? >> yeah, that's a line. it's unfair because you have the democrats and president saying every day, we are not going to negotiate. the polls say they want both
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sides to negotiate. >> when you say we don't want to negotiate, that's a perfectly fair point but you have to acknowledge in terms of the coverage that the republicans, or at least one wing of the republican party precipitated this crisis, and the new york times quoti that month ago we decided this was a fight we were going to pick. >> no, i think that's certainly the case and that's part of the truth. what the media's job is to give context and fairness, and you don't see the history and context that we have gone 17 years without a shutdown, which is an anomaly. the shutdowns used to happen a lot. and we can't act like it's the end of the word, like a lot of media out let's are saying. >> it sounds like the republican caucus room here. >> i am saying it exists. >> it exists for a real reason. it's true.
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we know this thing would have stayed open. boehner made the mistake saying he would always vote himself this way, and he got himself in a corner and he can't get out, and i think they are reporting exactly what is going on. >> the press is in the tank for the democrats? >> they always say that. >> isn't it always true? >> no, i spend five days a week. it's my network, and i understand sometimes we are a little bias on things, but by and large fox has done a good job, and on the other side, frankly, on my side, there has been some pretty active accusations as well. >> in my view the reason the coverage may seem unbalanced to some, you have to -- i will call it a civil war within the republican party, and a lot of republicans beating up on ted cruz, and people say there is a lot of airtime to blame the
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republicans, but where is some of that coming from? >> well, "the new york times" had a great piece that had been wildly quoted, great in terms it's a scoop is what i am saying, and he is saying the elderly sees liability, meaning there was a closed door meeting and -- >> among the republican senators. >> yeah, and they were beating up on ted cruz and there were anonymous quotes coming out of that saying that they were questioning ted cruz as to where the end game is, and once that is on the table -- >> let's talk about the anonymous quotes. they were saying there was a lynch mob, and that makes me uncomfortable. >> and they went to ted cruz, and he says it seems there is nothing the media likes to cover more than disagreements among
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republicans. >> you are smiling -- >> you go into the battle with the media you have and you acknowledge that and having an open civil war and names attached to it does give the media a target and they want to talk about that, that is true. i do think there is a preponderance of coverage. the rhetoric on the left among democrats with the bomb strapped to your chest and hostage takers and if that were the right making those statements they would get a much bigger spanking for it. >> ted cruz complaining about this. there was a time in the town and i have been here a long time, and the most dangerous place would be between schumer and the tv camera. now it's ted cruz. this guy -- he came out of the mojave desert, and he emerges and gets all the tv time and he comes out and does that ridiculous -- whatever you want to call that thing, the
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filibuster. >> i think it really ignored other elder statementmen of the republican party and that became the party. >> what is wrong with the freshman center to get out a message, and the problem is many elements of ted cruz' own party said he led them off a cliff and there is no way out of it. >> i think that at the top that is the predumb tphaupominant co. >> it's a few. >> by the way, you think or you feel like the media have trained their collective gunned on the right and giving the left a pass for some of the harsh rhetoric? >> yeah. >> and we did have dana bash talking to harry reid.
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why won't you go along with this, and he ripped her and said the question was irresponsibleable? >> that was an unusual question for him to get, and he answered it very badly, and he sounded calloused towards children. i will throw you a bone, bob. >> that's a rare day. >> yeah, people were looking and saying there is no end game here, what is going on. that allows for the media coverage of that angle. i don't get on with the idea that they are mad because they did not get as much coverage as cruz. >> harry can say things that are unbelievable. i have to go on, for example, and try to defend him. >> i want to get to a sound bite here. 11 hours after the shutdown began, politico ran a piece that
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showed president obama was showing define and strength that could redefine his presidency. we'll see about that. there are no glitches. there are no glitches! but, of course, fox news and the republicans they call that a glitch. this is the first day the obama care exchanges are open and it's a disaster. reporter after reporter has been going to these healthcare.gov, and it's a mess. >> the glitches were enough to shutdown the weekend for rebooting. >> ed schultz is crazy. i went on to help a friend and the maryland system is particularly messed up, and it's terrible. i went on, and you can't -- this is the best.
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they ask you for a password but there is no place to sign in and log in to give a password. it took me an entire day. by the end of the day i reached a public information officer, and her telephone number who said how do you get me? and i said it was given to me by this person. well, that's a legitimate story. >> yeah, and ed schultz said he was misunderstood that there were no glitches. seemed unambiguous to me. >> yeah, the anti-obama care people are losing the narrative. what happened to -- what they have been reporting is the system. >> this is part of the broken promise. it was supposed to work -- >> on the first day? >> yes. >> we know one guy's name, the chad guy that signed up allegedly -- >> he got a lot of publicity.
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>> why? because he is the only person that could sign up. >> january 1st, there will be millions of people that would -- >> well, they made the push. >> i have to go to a break. i know you are going to accuse me of trying to make this next story sexy. it says get covered. >> i was going to talk about jack lew, and what do you do? >> this is why everybody is pitted against you. this is perfect journalism as far as i am concerned. >> is she helping obama care? >> probably. >> the ratings of this show. >> that's good enough. >> when we come back, a more serious subject. the shooting outside the capitol, a couple blocks from here. we will look at the media's miss steps. heart healthy, huh?! ugh! actually progresso's soup has pretty bold flavor.
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there were reports of a woman with a baby in her car breached security there and it was followed by a high-speed chase. we had cable news kicking it into high gear and then came the mistakes. >> a very rapidly moving scene, shots fired we know by law enforcement in an effort to stop the car and we found out by the capitol police chief the suspect is in custody. >> the woman behind the wheel of the vehicle was shot and now in
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custody. >> it's being described she got out of the car and started firing. that's where we are. she is in custody according to two sources. >> as it turns out, of course, carey did not have a gun and was not taken into custody but was killed by police officers. nobody is talking about the media messup this time. >> yeah, very few people are talking about media mistakes. i put a question out to twitter, and people don't care. they expect it. they expect that we in the media are going to get it wrong. i think that's a very sad commentary on where we are in journalism. there is a reason we rank lower than lawyers in the popularity contest. >> they don't have the facts straight. >> yeah, the source reporting where you report sources say or authorities say, people take it with a grain of salt.
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they know eventually the story will shake out. >> they asked the question, did the police overreact, and why was she killed? >> yeah, they have to make split-second decisions. i think the police got a pass here. i think the media got a black eye. and also in my view, they got a black eye for not covering the piece. >> they believe they will read it on twitter, and i am going to agree with bob again and say i think some critical look at how the police acted especially with the baby in the car, and everybody, of course, wants to give them their kudos for protecting folks and they have to make split-second decisions, and we still have to cover that. >> yeah, in the '90s, i covered
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a story that went for a week, and then this story shot outside the capitol, half a day. >> yeah, and is it because there was a political debate surrounding the boston bombing and how the bombs were obtained and then the gun control question, and here it was a mentally disturbed woman that snapped, apparently. >> well, it went on, and you move on. >> mark me as very old-fashioned but i feel in the breaking news situations, if anchors and correspondents waited for confirmation, they get fewer things wrong. >> the confirmation from the capitol police did not come until 6:00, and this happened at 3:00. >> gets it first? who cares?
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the public doesn't care. >> they want information quickly. >> yeah. >> it's only journalists who care who gets it first. >> and anderson cooper did a great interview with his sisters. kudos to him for that. after the break, look on the reporting of how the government shutdown is impacting america. [ male announcer ] progresso's so passionate about its new
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being affected and ruined and thrown into chaos. >> i am feeling like a ping pong ball. >> the shock is still hitting thomas fuller, and he is an it consultant. among tens of thousands of federal contractors impacted. >> are we getting a clear picture of the shutdown affects or is there some exaggeration involved? james, in your reporting how real is the impact? we have seen a lot of stories like the ones i just played and are people trying to spin you as to whether the impact is bigger or smaller? >> it involves the basic logistics of what is going to stay open and who won't and how are they making decisions about what is essential and nonessential, and i paid particular attention to the terminology that due to the sensitivities of government
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workers it's no longer described as essential or nonessential, and you are called accepted from the shutdown or not accepted as the shutdown, which is nice. we have seen some efforts by both parties in terms of exaggeration, and some opinionated media. >> and it's called a shutdown, and some are calling it to a slimdown, like something with weight watchers. and they have interviewed workers, and is that reporting or a cained of advocacy. >> everything that i have seen, and i spent four hours a day trying to watch the coverage. there is so much of if a story is done that shows somebody victimized by the shutdown, it's almost always contextualized, and who is to blame for this.
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that's the game in washington, of course, that is insane. it reached the apex when politicians from both sides were trying to be over there to be with the world war ii veterans, to say they were with them. >> that was an episode that did not look good for the administration. >> yeah, and i mentioned earlier dana bash asked harry reid about the partial shut tkoup. let's look at the clip. >> you talked about children with cancer unable to go to clinical trials. and will you pass that and if not are you -- >> to have somebody of your intelligence to suggest such a thing may mean you are irresponsible and reckless. >> james? >> that was the dark side of harry reid. it's not the first time we have
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seen it surface. it's the worst example of the use and abuse of the media, and for example every time you log on to whitehouse.gov. there is a message there. >> the obama care coverage was outrageous. it was. on msnbc, 36 hours after the exchanges were open, everybody was reporting widespread glitches, and glitches was a kind word, and in some cases, she shut down. ed schultz looks into the camera and says there are no glitches, and he says fox is manufacturing talk about glitches.
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he is an opinion guy and he can have his own opinion but you can't have your own facts. >> what about the others? >> cnn, they put sanjhaw shawn gupta, they put him on a road trip. it was pathetic to see this. >> fox? >> you know that harry reid clip with dana bash, not surprisingly, shawn hannity called him a twisted -- well, he stopped himself. >> are you saying the rhetoric was too harsh? >> you don't want to attack the man, you attack the palm see. >> they have had all kinds of ripple affects here, do you think there has been too much
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media spin about winners and losers, and as opposed to the affect on real people and whether the d.c. press is in a bubble here? >> well, what the contribution to the media shutdown is. media played a role in how we got here. why is there such gridlock and paralysis in congress? why such polarization? a plausible answer, and it will fall to historians to talk it out, but i think there's a democratization of lawmakers. they don't have relationships. >> thank you very much. >> we will see you later. send me a tweet about our show. after the break, we are headed into the baseball playoffs right now, but with ratings, is the
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new york times. "new york times" piece asking is the game over. now we are in the playoffs, and the author says baseball has bigger problems than declining ratings that it has in his view fallen out of the national conversation. joining us from los angeles, jim gray of fox sports. i love baseball, but i have to admit i have not watched many games lately. >> things have changed over the course of time, and our society has changed and the biggest thing are these devices. you think about how everybody uses them in everyday life, and baseball is the national past time, and they may want the
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scores and highlights but they are not tuning into the games and the game itself is a luxury that we all kind of now think if we had the time maybe we would, but it's better just to get the score and we get the score right away. you can't watch a baseball on one of the tvs walking around on the telephone, and "the new york times" that was an excellent piece. >> yeah, i was thinking about the great announcers from the golden years of baseball, and now as you say, you don't need a tv to watch sports. everybody knows football has blown baseball away for a long time. the nba getting much better ratings in the regular season than baseball, but the beauty of the game was 162 games, twists and turns in the pennant race, and do we have the attention for that? >> no, 162 games is way too long
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for how we operate. there is fallacies in this as well. the average baseball game this year was under three hours, and that's a long time. everybody complains about the pitchers in between pitches and pitchers are being taken out of game, and the switch hitters and that batter is taking so long and guys walking out of the batter's box, and the average football game takes three hours, and there are only 16 games in the season, and now we need a one-game wildcard to see who the best team is and then after that, we need 3 out of 5. 162 games, we should see who is best. we have a game tomorrow night where the falcons of atlanta are playing. what do you think will rate higher? the football game will out rate it considerably.
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a meaningless football game. >> people in pittsburgh are going crazy over the pirates right now, and how many national teams have a following in baseball? yankees, red sox, dodgers, that's probably about it. >> that's exactly right. it's really interesting in pittsburgh. last night in oakland it was just amazing to see how everybody was into it, and the a's are back and they won that game 1-0, and it was compelling, beating detroit. the fact of the matter is these small markets has not translated. there was an interesting statistic in the piece if you go back and look and when the game was in its heydays, there were 16 teams being played in ten cities. now you have 30 franchises across the gap.
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the access to the game is better. bob costas' said they are doomed if they get tampa bay playing against another small market in the finals of the baseball, in the world series. people just don't want to watch it. >> steroids have done a lot of damage in the recent years, from mark mcgwire to a-rod and roger clemens. how much of that has contributed to this decline, i would call it? >> well, i think that people are tired of seeing it. if you look at the most searched people in major league baseball this year, and i went on and did,it was ryan braun, who was suspended for 65 games, and alex rodriguez who was suspended 200 games, and he now has his appeal. the steroids has hurt. but if you go back to the days
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nbc had the miniseries starring diane lane. this week, both cnn and nbc suddenly pulled the plug. and they are relieved these projects have gone away. >> it was a horrible history. if you look at the reagans in 2003, cbs did it, and came under pressure because they painted a really negative picture and unfair picture of president reagan and it wound up on showtime. and then the kennedys, this is a bad, bad process. you spend a lot of money and get a lot of heat and don't get ratings and you wind up having to dump it on a little channel. who would do it except in nbc's case, and this is what i
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believe, on the chance hillary clinton might be in the white house some day, and comcast does a lot of regulatory business before the fcc and it's nice to have a friend there, and that's why i think the republican party was right to think it was going to be flattering. >> nbc did not offer much of a explanation. this is hours after cnn announced it was not going forward with the project. and huffington, maybe it was not going to be a puffy thing. >> what happened? as soon as there were real questions the clinton team went after him and said you will get no cooperation. he said there's no access or possibility for access. it was worst than that. they were hostile and telling people not to talk to them, and
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everybody knows that's the way that game is played. he was smart to get out, and i don't believe he was going to do a puffy job. >> gop, do you think them saying they were cutting off the debates was a factor? >> a big factor. those debates are important to them in terms of image and in a way in terms of profitability to be engaged in the presidential election, and that brings advertising. i think it was a brilliant move to say you get no debates. look at all the debates. >> i don't think it was a brilliant move to cut two news organizations out of that. the bottom line, they will probably get the debates back. and fox news has the first change in 11 years, greta goes earlier, and then the 9:00 p.m. newscast comes on involving megan kelly. >> i like it. i do think she is a primetime
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star. i think she will do very well. as long as they have bill o'reilly as the king, they will be fine. i like greta as a transition from news to opinion, because she does it both and i think she is one of the hardest working people in journalism. she will give you a timely lead in every night to o'reilly. i think it looks good. we will see how it does in the ratings, but i think it's a good move. >> kelly says it's not about her opinions. thank you for stopping by this morning. you make a great team. it's been that way since e day you met. but your erectile dysfunction - itld be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right.
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didn't you? e you knew the "i quit" was coming at the end. >> 5 million views on youtube. >> at least. >> why so? >> one of the reasons is who doesn't love to see somebody quit like that? it's really a poke in the eye to the company. but what's so interesting about this is that you can now go international as an individual broadcaster. youtube, 6 billion hours are watched each and every month on youtube. 70% of the traffic is outside the u.s. >> you don't need a professional studio, professional makeup people. >> although she did have that. >> oh, okay. it seems to me this is a new form of workplace communication. she quit. she makes a video. she feels strongly about it. it goes viral because people can relate to the fact that somebody doesn't like their job. but here's what's really interesting about this. the company, this company that does taiwanese animation felt compelled to make its own video
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to respond. take a look at that. ♪ >> you have to admire the head of that company who did that. saying we're hiring. i thought it was brilliant. >> brilliant. yeah. but the company was forced to play defense here and to use the same kanye west rap music as marina did. >> that's what social media is all about now. it's all about reputation management. really. you have to look at your twitter feed and your facebook pages to make sure you're not being maligned. >> really? >> do you know who was singing on those videos? >> didn't i just say.
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i looked it up. >> kanye. >> the company in this case could have just ignore it. you're saying they couldn't ignore it because it got 5 million plus views. not just its reputation, she was saying they were more concerned about getting a lot of page views as opposed to workers rights. the company had to show, hey, we're still a pretty cool place to work. >> right. yes. that still goes to reputation management. but the other piece of it is really that everything now is online for the younger generation. they aren't shy about putting things on facebook or social media that could affect how they will be hired. queen latifah has her on the show. had marina on the show. and said, i'd love to give you a job. >> right. you would say many people would risk -- younger people would risk losing their jobs or not being hired in the future if they did something that was not especially -- >> pc. >> right. but she took a risk because she could have been seen as a disgruntled employee lashing out
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at people who had been nice enough to give her a job. you say it ended up helping. >> i think so. don't you remember the guy who quit his airplane job by sliding down the chute of the airplane saying, i'm out of here? i think we really like stuff like that. >> let me just say this. >> oh, no. don't even. >> i would never, ever make a video like that. >> okay. i would. >> you would? >> i would. let me see you do it. >> are you quitting? >> i'm not quitting. i promise. i'm not quitting. still to come, your best tweets of the hour. and a newspaper editor who responded to the industry's problems by sliming some of his readers.
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act. will negotiate other vital issues. fox is now tea party arm. paula says all msn except for fox continue to cheerlead and push the barack obama agenda. boo. chuck connors, typical white house lap dogs don't care if it stays shut down for months. it's all show. president will negotiate when poll numbers drop. mike hagerty. want to end the shutdown? all media refuses to interview any member of congress until it's over. be just a minute. he might be right about that one. our press picks. here's a story over the line. newspapers have a lot of problems these days, let's face it. blaming them on struggling women, to be precise, poor, promiscuous women is just plain insensitive. that unfortunately is what chris powell did. editor of "the journal enquirer" in manchester, connecticut. he writes papers can still sell themselves to traditional households. two parent families involved in churches and civic groups.
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but cannot sell themselves to households headed by single women who have several children by different fathers, survive on welfare stipends, can't hardly speak english. couldn't afford a newspaper subscription even if they could read. i hope that made you feel better, chris powell. for most of us it came off as cruel. the great government shutdown has produced at least one great media moment. mike casasso and his fiancee had to drop their wedding plan at the jefferson memorial. complained to "the washington post." find out tying the knot with stephen colbert. >> in sickness and health until death do you part? >> i do. >> and mike, do you do all that same stuff? what with the word "wife" in there? >> i do. >> yeah. keep going, man! you're married!
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go for it! >> they're going to have a slightly funny wedding video than most couples. that's it for this edition of "media buzz." like us on facebook. continue the conversation online. we are back here next sunday morning 11:00 eastern with more "buzz." fox news alert. brand-new details this hour about the units that were behind two daring terror raids in africa. the first one we now learned is carried out by the delta force ending with the capture of a top al qaeda leader with american blood on his hands. al libi. terrorist and master mind behind the 1998 u.s. embassy bombings in east africa. reportedly being detained on a ship at sea where we're told he's expected to be held for up to several weeks. hi, everybody. i'm jamie colby. great to have you with us for this new hour. >> absolutely. hello, everyone. i'm eric shawn on this sunday. welcome to a brand-new hour of america's news
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