with us. we're back at our new time tomorrow night. wake up to fox and friends tomorrow morning. we'll see you back here at 10:00 eastern tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. row nit right here on our new time 7:00 p.m. eastern. up next. >> bill: the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> we saw 7 million people rush to go on to the web page. >> how many signed up, sir? >> they have six months to sign up. this is a big decision. >> how many signed up? >> bill: the obama administration now on the defensive over obama care and the government shutdown. are americans changing their minds on these issues? talking points will analyze. [gunfire] >> bill: two u.s. special forces raids over the weekend causing all kinds of problems in the muslim world. we will have the inside story and discuss the fallout. >> the driver was a maniac. >> the driver of the suv. >> yes, is a maniac. he hit the first guy.

>> bill: also tonight that vicious attack by a motorcycle gang in new york now getting really bizarre as the victims may be sued. we will have the latest. caution, you are about to it enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. on the factor 17th birthday, later, we have a look back at some unforgettable moments on this program. you might want to crack up that tebow deal or whatever else you have. also, sorry about the frog in my throat, he takes up residence twice a year like clockwork. will americans rise up against obama care? that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. it's now becoming apparent that millions of americans will pay a lot more for health insurance under obama care. i was talking to some insurance people this weekend, big guys, and they are happy, they like obama

care. you know why? because deductibles and co-pays are going up big time. that, of course, means more profit for the health insurance companies. less money for you. now, how many voters do you think knew that while obama care was being debated? in my opinion very few. that's just one reason why individual americans should get a year reprieve from obama care. some businesses have the reprieve and you should get it, too. that's the crux of the government shutdown situation. republicans want some changes in obama care. the president and the democrats do not. but talking points is another question. what is best for the folks, the american people? there is a tremendous amount of confusion regarding the federal takeover of healthcare. obama care is not ready for prime time. and everybody knows it. >> how many have signed up, sir? >> they have six months to sign up. this is a big decision. >> how many signed up. >> i don't have the exact number. >> do you have any number because the government has refused to tell us how many. >> it's a wrong question.

>> no, it isn't. >> bill: it's the wrong question? how arrogant? there are no wrong questions, just evasive answers. treasury secretary jack lew is doning because he knows, it's very hard to sign up on the government exchanges even if you want to. as you may know, talking points is a reasonable guy. i well understand that president obama does not want to change or delay his signature issue. and since the president did win re-election and obama care is a legal law, he has authority on his side. that's true. but if the president is really looking out for the folks, he has to know things are not working out very well. and that the country needs another year to better organize the health program and to see who is going to suffer because of it. that's just fair. if republicans are smart, they will simply pound home that theme. delay obama care for a year, so we can see the full picture. and allow the feds to get better organized. again, if obama care is a good thing, the folks will know it. if it's a bad thing, then

the law should be changed. right? one year from today, that tale will be told. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight, even some liberal journalists are getting annoyed with the way the obama administration is conducting itself. apparently a "new york times" reporter david zanger and the former editor of the "the washington post," leonard downie, saying some nasty things about the powers that be. joining us now from north carolina, the purveyor of bernard goldberg.com mr. goldberg. what's the beef from the lefties, bernie. >> there is a report coming out this week, bill. about press freedom during the obama years. and in it david zanger, how mentioned who is a very good national security reporter for the "new york times," he says and this is a quote: that the obama administration is the most closed, controlled freak administration he has ever seen and leonard downie who ran the newsroom at "the washington post" as you mentioned, he says that national security reporters find, this is is a quote, that government officials

are increasingly fearful of talking to them and they worry that their fox communications with sources can be monitored at any time. so what they're basically saying is that the obama administration is the most secretive in memory and they are even prosecuting leakers in greater numbers than ever. and this makes it it very difficult for reporters to do their job. that's basically what they are saying. >> bill: do you believe that? >> i think it's a matter of much more a matter of gray than black and white. first of all, they are talking about national security stories. now, i'm willing to accept that if the administration is merely hiding stuff because it would embarrass them, then publish away. broadcast everything you can find, publish everything you can find. but, what happens, bill, when a leaker who, by the way, has taken an oath not to divulge secret information, what happens when a leaker goes to a

reporter with information that really is harmful to our national security? we can't simply talk about the leaker. we have to have a discussion about the reporter who is disseminating this information to millions and millions of people. you can't just blame the leaker for what he did if he is wrong and causing harm isn't the reporter also causing harm? i think most reporters are responsible enough that if they get information that is truly harmful. truly harmful they will be very careful and might not publish that information. >> they all rationalize. crew and bradley manning, they are all like we are doing it forked good of the country patriots. >> that's exactly right. a million web sites and a million bloggers. i predict this will happen. somebody is going to it leak information about an ongoing information and cia agent and some bad place is going to get his head blown off.

>> that's right. >> at that point you can't simply blame the leaker. at that point you have to also hold the so-called journalist responsible. >> bill: i agree. it's an impossible to be fair to know how oppressive the obama administration has been toward the reporters. we know the rosen situation that they were very intrusive on him. so, but let's, at this point, let's just raise the question that "on the record," even the left wingers, okay, are objecting to how the obama administration is dealing with information flow. >> that's right. >> now, the government shutdown and -- is all about power. it's about one party trying to destroy the other. and posturing for the 2014 elections. the folks are getting hosed in the process. do i have it correct? >> well, i think the folks have gotten hosed long before the shutdown. how many people out there -- how many people

out there watching us? how many millions of people out there in america even know what's in the bill? now, i follow this stuff and i don't know -- not the bill, the law. i follow this stuff and i don't know. i'm hearing on television only in the last few days that if you are a woman, let's say a 5 or 60 years old, your policy has to contain maternity benefits. and if i have never used hard drugs in my life, my policy would have to include visits to rehab. now, if that's true. why didn't we know about that two years ago? >> bill: that's right. terrible job. >> bill: this is what i don't understand for president obama. if it's so confusing and so up in the air just delay it a year. everyone would agree on that compromise. government would reopen. debate the debt ceiling. --rything would play in >> no shutdown if president obama merely threw the republicans a bone.

you can't expect them to it compromise on repeal. you can't expect them to compromise on defunding. but he could have given the republicans eye r. delay. >> repeal of the tax. he could give them repeal of the medical devices tax. or bring congress into it so that they don't get special subsidies. he wouldn't concede on anything. you may be right when you said the other day that this stems from his apparent weakness in syria. >> no doubt in my mind. >> connecting the dots to what's going on right now. >> bill: next on the rundown is, it fair to punish americans to help other americans? yes we are talking about obama care. juan and mary katharine will answer that question. special forces attacking two kerass over the weekend. weekend. we have the inside story o

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>> bill: impact as i stated and talking points memo. millions of americans will see their health insurance costs, their deductibles, their co-pays go up because of obama care. so, here is the question. is it morally right to hurt some americans to help other americans? joining us now from washington. mary katharine ham, from chicago, juan williams, both are fox news analysts. juan, you see where i'm going with this. right? all right. >> yes. >> some people are going to get hurt and not rich fat cats, working people. and is that morally right for the government to to impose that? go. >> oppose it? no. >> impose it. impose it? >> oh, impose it, yes. it is absolutely right. this is for the common good. and you must remember, bill, whenever you end a discriminatory system, there are going to be some winners and some losers. this was a discriminatory system. if you had a preexisting condition, if you were a

senior and in fact if you are over 40 and poor the insurance companies didn't want to deal with you. now you have a situation where there are more people in the marketplace. >> bill: you say it's morally okay to hurt -- >> -- yes. >> bill: some people in order to help other people. juan williams is going on the record as saying that. it's all right to do that? >> well, bill, can i just elaborate to say social security, young people pay into it, fire stations, most people don't have fires in their house. we all pay into that that's not hurting people. no but this is directly. >> common good. >> well, common good is not good for people who are are paying higher health insurance premiums and higher deductibles and co-pays. they are getting hurt. >> bill, that's a very small percentage. you know. >> bill: no, it's not. no, it's not. >> i just spoke at a sun life conference last week for insurance companies. corporations, they are way beyond this it a guy named john gruber said 80% of americans will see no

change. >> bill: i don't believe that that's propaganda. >> that is a fact. 80% no change. >> bill: some pinhead says. that's not a fact. that's what a pinhead says. >> homology. >> stop, come on. there are such things as facts, bill. >> bill: that's not a fact, juan. a fact that is something that is true. >> that's what i'm telling you. i'm coming on your show to tell you the truth what. >> bill: you have no idea that that's the fact. >> oh my gosh. >> bill: analyze after the insurance premiums come in. >> what we are talking about is a very small percentage of people especially who are going to be in the public marketplace buying insurance. >> bill: we have this on tape now. juan's fact on tape. >> let's talk about more rattle when you are making a promise and you should keep it what juan was talking about what is not the pitch. the pitch was $2,500 saved off your premiums. that's not going to happen for everyone. the pitch was we are going to bring the cost curve down. that's not what's happening. the pitch was you can keep

your doctor. we know that's not true for many people. that you can keep your plan. that's not going to be true for many people. it's immoral to make those promises and break them and another thing. >> bill: did they really break them on purpose? i'm not sure they did. >> a lot of them they knew. some of them they were too stupid to know but they knew. one last thing. it also immoral to charge people a feef hundreds and hundreds of dollars for not getting healthcare when they go on a web site that doesn't work for them to buy it it. >> bill: i think we are missing the larger point. >> come on. >> bill: i'm going to go back to my talking points memo. i say give the individual a reprieve for a year and then we will know if juan's facts are facts. then we will see how many people have to it pay more the co-pays and the divubility tillables how high they go. then we would have the data. not some clown from mit who thinks because he wants it to be that way. now, but the larger question has gone unanswered by you both. i'm going to give mary katharine the first shot. >> okay. >> bill: the larger question is, is immoral,

wrong, to punish a segment of the society, by making life more difficult for them and their families to help others? mary katharine? one minute, go. >> no. i don't think that's immoral in and of itself. i prefer for people to do it voluntarily via charity. we are transferring money from younger poorer healthy people to richer older people who are sicker. that's who is going to be served. that's how you would want a subsidy to go. >> bill: impose a system where some people are clearly going to get hurt to help others. >> that's what i prefer to do things outside of government. i don't like them being imposed. that's the more moral thing to do it. >> bill: juan? >> i don't think this is about people getting hurt. i think this is about helping americans, especially seniors. especially those with preexisting condition. >> bill: humor me. instead of dodging and dancing. >> i'm not dodging, bill. >> bill: you are on the record. you don't think it's about i'm a simple man, it's a simple question. is it impolar moral for a

government to impose -- is it immoral for a government to impose pain to benefit others? >> answer no. when you ask me let's say is soldier to go overseas. most don't go overseas to fight wars. oh because you have to go somehow it's immoral? no, there is such a thing as public service and in this case there is such a thing as the greater good whether it's medicare, medicaid, social security, prescription drug benefits. i think lots of your senior viewers would be very aware of it and not consider it immoral that the society provides a safety net, bill. >> bill: wait, wait, wait. mary katharine. i have got to go. the analogy to the fighting men, i just simply don't understand. maybe the mit guy can explain it to me. all right? mary katharine and juan. >> come on. >> bill: ahead navy seals and delta force attack terrorists over the weekend. we will have the inside story about those raids. later on, happy birthday to the factor. we will take a look back.

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>> bill: unresolved problem segment tonight, more military action by u.s. terrorists over the weekend. u.s. army delta force top ranking terrorist in libya. navy seals attacked a leader of a somali based in kenya. joining us with inside story peter brookes specialist at the heritage foundation. let's take the somali force i understand it didn't go well. >> went over the beach. they got into a fire fight. it's not clear why they or what their actual objective was. it probably was a leader of al shabaab. maybe somebody who was involved in the kenya attacks at the westgate mall or maybe the leader of

al shabaab. we are not really sure exactly what happened. they probably came upon something they didn't expect. maybe civilians. maybe they got involved with somebody on the beach that they didn't need to. and then tipped off the soldiers and the militants of al shabaab. it just didn't go off the way we wanted it to. >> bill: unlike black hawk down it was a beach landing. still under darkness. they had a location and they wanted to get in and get the guys. if i'm the commander and i know where the guys are sleeping and i drop a drone on them and they're all dead, so that tell its me they wanted intel from these guys? >> absolutely. this is a high valued target. there is probably a the love things they would like to know. and they were going to do a snatch and grab. take them off to a ship perhaps and do some interviewing and interrogation and get the information that may, you know, tell us more about al shabaab. what it tells me, bill, we actually may be more concerned about al shabaab and their reach beyond that part of the world, perhaps even into the united states. and the threat level is coming up.

>> bill: all right. that makes perfect sense. because some some somali is a e very difficult to operate particularly because there is no central government. there is nobody in control. you have to go in and take your chances. as far as we know there are no seal casualties. >> that's right. >> bill: went in and met resistance. there were reports initially that they got one or two of them. they killed them. is that true or false? do you know? >> i think they probably mixed it up with some the militants. perhaps guarding this high valued target. some of them were killed. i heard as many as four. but obviously maybe because of civilian collateral damage they decided to withdraw and come back again. >> bill: we he don't have any confirmation how many terrorists may be dead. we just know some might be. >> that's exactly right. >> bill: libya, a different situation. they go in and they grab this guy. and then the libyan leader, i don't even know who that is. says that the u.s. forces kidnapped him and this guy is a bad guy. responsible for the embassy bombings in '98. he was living -- he was living right out in like, you know, in public, right?

>> yeah, that's what we understand. he has a long time association with al qaeda. including usama bin laden. he is involved with those embassy bombings in kenya and tans knee a he may have been involved with with al qaeda cells in libya. obviously of great importance to the united states besides the indictment, bill, against him in new york city for those bombings that killed more than 200 people, including dozen or so americans back in 1998. so somebody we really wanted to talk to and get some information on what's going on in north africa. >> and he probably has information about benghazi. i mean, if is he that high up in the the terrorist organization, he had to know what happened there. so they snatch this guy, the seals do, and they get out. now he is on a navy vessel some place and you assume they are having a nice conversation with him, right? >> absolutely. i'm sure we sent one of our interrogation teams to chat with him. get some information. you know, know if there is any plots out there. maybe he knows something about benghazi. i think people are a little bit disappointed that we didn't get the perpetrators

of benghazi while we were in there i guess you have got to do it one at a time. >> bill: he might be one of them. he absolutely could be one of them. i just think this libyan government has a hell of a nerve criticizing the united states. when they're letting this guy -- they know who this guy is we go in and there is a war on terror. libyan government, why don't they understand it. >> no, i'm with you on this. but the fact is that if you look at it from the libyans' perspective, they are worried about what happens afterwards. will there be additional attacks on the government? they are worried about their own situation. >> bill: playing to their crowd? just like karzai does. >> sure. >> this they have to say bad america so they don't turn their guns on them? >> right. they may have been working with us on it. there is rumors there may have been libyans involved in this snatch. we don't know exactly. i understand what they are doing. >> all right, mr. brooks, if you get any hard information. let us know. thank you very much. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening it is the factor's 17th birthday.

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>> bill: perm story segment tonight. one of the reasons i believe america is the greatest nation on earth. it gives the most people to pursue happiness and eventually achieve success. poster boy is louise gutierrez who rose up from

poverty illinois. still dreaming, my dream to capitol hill is out today and here he is get to your book in a moment. i want to ask you the same question i asked juan and mary katharine. i had to to pull it out of them by the way it wasn't an easy answer. you got a situation america today where the american government is imposing pain on some people for the so-called good of other people. i think obama care it's very very dramatic. some people didn't have health insurance are going to get it and they are going to get it free. in order to get it free. a lot of people are going to be paying higher premiums co-pay and divucketd divubility tillables. is that okay. >> greatest good for the greatest number of people. i have a you till tarren approach to it too. >> bill: if more people are benefiting then they have to go that way. shouldn't then, congressman, we have a year so we can see how many people are benefiting as opposed to how many are suffering? wouldn't that be a fair i

think we can do the process. i like people to have what i have as a member of congress. i'm the one that rules the laws of the nation and i want them to have what i have. what they have given me as a member of congress. >> bill: can you give parking pass and gym membership. >> you know better than most. >> if you believe that the greater good should be served, let's figure out what the greater good is. >> greatest number of people. >> people who want obama care should be able to sign up now and get the exchange benefits and the people who don't should be given a reprieve for a year just like some corporations are so that he that we see. we see the math. doesn't that make sense to you? >> i think we can look and make the kinds of tweets and changes that are necessary as people enroll. people are very excited. got a lot of people in my district that don't have healthcare. never have access to it. >> bill: i understand why they are excited about it i think you should embrace the compromise i'm putting forth. your book. you know me a little bit. have you been on this program. you know i come from middle class, you come from lower

class. i was looking your book over today and i think the reason you succeeded so much is partially mostly you. but your parents stayed together. your parents stayed together. right? >> absolutely. >> bill: puerto rico, poor. father is working hard. non-educated man. >> cab driver. my mom works in a factory. doing what they have got to do. >> bill: you see what hard work and honesty, that's inculcated into you, louise gutierrez. and you bring that. that's why you are successful. do you agree with that? >> i think in great american, at the very end of the book, my dad made sure, he said you know you complained and you wined a lot when i brought you here to puerto rico and he let me know how bad it was. i just want you to know it was the best thing i ever did. and at the end i have to say i have to agree with my dad it was the best thing he ever did. without my mother and my father, there were no other role models in my life. >> bill: nature. you might have been a thug.

>> the only role models i have. i describe in the book when i have to deal with thuggery in my neighborhood. i wouldn't tell my dad. do you know why i wouldn't tell my dad because i know my dad would go down there and settle the score. >> that's right. i also know that gang bangers tend to do exactly that gang up. >> bill: by that extension that you, through honesty and hard work rose up from a poor kid to a congressman, now i'm fighting this battle to get society to encourage women to stop having babies out of wedlock. all right? to say it. don't do it. all right. to stop the violence and the thuggery going on in major neighborhoods around the nation. i'm on this. i'm getting hammered because i'm making judgments. o'reilly has no right to make those judgments. but i -- we are not, as a society, going to help the poor unless we are honest about the problem.

do you disagree with that? >> no. here is what i have to say. look, my mom and dad came here to this country with nothing. they came to new york as a matter of fact, right? >> right. >> if you had been with them, they were 50 or 60 years ago, guess what the headlines would have screamed. they came here to bring violence to the streets of new york. get on welfare. that they came here ignorant. and they bring diseases. >> bill: they didn't do any of that. >> they didn't do any of that they fought against that. so, a lot of times when you and i are talking and i know somewhat your position on immigration. i see immigrants today and i say you know what? my parents needed a lifeline, nobody stood up for them. i want to stand up for people today. >> bill: i want a fair and orderly immigration process. >> me too. >> bill: i want the powers to be in washington to call the problem what it is. the dissolution of the traditional family is what drives poverty and violence. >> i think that if there is one thing you see in our immigrant -- okay, you take a walk with me. down the streets of our

immigrant community. >> bill: no, i'm talking about -- can i. >> i want to go back to your question thorks what do you see? you see children, you see families. you are catholic. i'm catholic. when i go to church, i take an extra 20 minutes on sunday when i go to spanish mass? why? there are are so many children in that church. >> bill: unless the children have the guidance that you have and i much harder for them. >> fundamentally important and i describe that in the book. >> bill: the book is "still dreaming." attacked by a motorcycle gang, their lives in danger, now they may be sued by some of the gang members. outrageous. that report moments away. [ male announcer ] campbell's angus beef & dumplings. hearty cheeseburger.

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not all of them were arrested but five were. but some of them now have -- are saying i'm going to sue the driver of the vehicle. does that make any sense at all? >> well, i haven't heard them all come out saying that they are going to sue. now, one person who was actually critically injured, he was run over by the suv on the highway. his family has retained gloria all red, you know, she is a high profile celebrity attorney. so they did hire her and they had a news conference with her when she was at if the family planned to suit driver or the family of the suv she said she would not answer that question right now. >> bill: what could they possibly sue for? here is a guy who is fleeing for his life, he has got a 2-year-old to protect. what could they possibly sue for? >> i'm not quite sure. you would have to ask gloria that one. but what they are saying is that for the gentleman who was run over, his name edwin j. -- he was run over and left in critical

condition and. >> bill: the reason. >> he didn't do anything. >> bill: the reason i'm asking you that question, and not going to ask some lawyer who wants to make money, okay, the reason i'm asking you, is because the suv driver has not been arrested, has he? >> no, not at all. >> bill: okay. he is not arrested. police didn't say he did anything wrong at all. in fact, the police commissioner said he was doing what any father would have done. so it's not stacking up here. it's not stacking up. now, there was another arrest today, right? >> yep. well, that's the latest information. that actually came in just a short time ago. there this gentleman was actually caught on video punching and hitting the driver of the range rover and they caught him on video. he was arrested today at his brooklyn home and brought here to the 33rd precinct in manhattan where they are heading up this investigation. >> bill: all right, now i understand there was some undercover cops in the fleet of motorcycle guys. all right. they were there.

what's that all about? >> well, the bottom line, that event last sunday here in new york city was called a hollywood block party. so guys from all over othe tri-state come to ride their bikes there. bike enthusiasts. so, in that group, you definitely had a bunch of law enforcement officers. one nypd officer under cover detective put on modified duty as internal affairs investigates what he knew about the attack on the driver of the suv. today, the detectives' union came out saying that that detective did not know anything about the beating. that he rolled up much later after the beating had already happened so he was not involved and did not see it he they also add he did not want to blow his cover because he rolled up on the scene because they say a lot of times undercover officers will get reprimanded by the nypd if they blow their cover that's from the union. >> bill: please continue following the story and we appreciate you coming on tonight. on deck, happy birthday to

the factor, 17 years and still going strong. we will take a look back in just a few moments.

>> bill: back of the book segment tonight, happy birthday to us. we are 17 years old. can you believe that? going on 14 years as the top rated cable newscast in the united states of america. of course, we thank you all because you made it happen. so, in honor of you, and put ta look-back at some of the most flamboyant moments in factor history. ♪ ♪ >> we have seen a steady erosion in their commitment to disapprove of drug use. that's one problem. the second problem is. >> bill: let me stop you there, one, because we will get too far ahead. i disagree with you. i disagree.

>> i just don't know why you said the stuff that you said you must have known you would get in trouble. >> why? >> bill: come on, this is america. >> you can play anywhere from a child to ewing adult. >> yes i think i can do that. >> you might be a newscaster there, gary. >> yes, 11:00. >> not too much i need a job here. >> you have great teeth. i got all my teeth knocked out playing hockey. my father had just given me -- he had had a heart attack. >> the president announced one of the greatest men to ever grace the industry of music. >> i have heard of him. >> bill: how old were you you when you got so big. >> i was always bigger than the other children. >> bill: you don't want to kill anybody quinn nell? >> i want to treat you the way you have treated us you can v. killed our men women and babies. >> i'm not going to kill anybody. >> how come you didn't turn into a hollywood phoney. >> i'm out there tied to it a stake. i'm saying to myself what the hell am i doing here. >> you never took it seriously? >> never. >> bill: you are a moron or

a liar, mr. morris, what did you do? >> most people don't understand what you are doing and why you are acting bizarre. this can be very troubling to children who don't have direction. >> i think it's my job as an artist to be out there pushing people's buttons. >> there is a kind of self-censorship. >> bill: do you censor things because i never do. >> i don't think that's true. bull feathers. >> bill: look my mother lives in the house i grew up. in you are invited to come there. you are not invited to dinner because i would never eat with you. >> if i was the cia i would follow you wherever you went. >> judge has said we are not a threat to national security. even the government itself said we are not. >> bill: okay. all right, doctor. i would still shadow and go to denny's and everywhere you went. >> you are somebody who wants to cut down on aids transmission we are going to have our parties but not going to allow illegal drugs in there why aren't you say that. >> illegal drugs don't equal unprotected sex. >> bill: every study shows.

>> move h.i.v. >> you can shut up for a minute? >> bill: has a funny accent. >> i'm in america. are you telling me that foreign people don't have the same rights? >> bill: i was told you might have snuck across the rights? >> you might have snuck across the border. i might have to make a citizens arrest. >> no! >> you're finally in the no spin zone. >> i'm dizzy with excitement. >> i would sacrifice myself to remove the taliban. would you? >> uh-huh. >> would you? >> no. i would be willing -- >> would you sacrifice yourself? >> i would sacrifice my life to track down the people who killed 3,000 people. >> he thought he was going to help you and he didn't. >> better get him on your show. i'll tell you this. if saddam hussein were in power we would be in trouble. >> you're not a hollywood guy. i can't see you calling anybody

babe. >> not always, babe. >> you don't know what you're talking about. >> very good. congratulations. >> he's a patriot. don't denigrate his service or i will boot you off the set. >> who is your primary audience? >> strippers, hookers and crack whores. i love them all. >> he could be an irish drunk. >> what difference does it uh make? >> plenty of difference. >> he doesn't have a right to be here. >> he didn't commit a felony. >> he doesn't have a right to be in this country. >> a message of faith, hope and acceptance. >> you're going to make me cry. next time we'll have a geraldo moment. >> two presidents of the united states sitting. the former cia guy worked for both. tony blair. they all tell me and you he's got him, we can't say no, he doesn't. >> we haven't seen you for 17 years. what have you been doing? >> none of your business.

>> none of this was your fault. oh, no. people with millions of dollars. wasn't your fault. come on, you coward. >> are you surprised fox news is fairer to you than nbc news? >> i wouldn't expect anything less than a fair and balanced coverage of my campaign. >> the network the news and new york times, all the people you hang with. >> excuse me, bill. don't bull [ bleep ] me. >> i would never do that. >> i'm not a juror. they decide -- >> don't you think the millions watching you -- and i don't mean this with disrespect -- think you ever a weasel. >> they might. >> does it disturb you that people hate you? it's a serious question. >> the folks that hate you, they don't know you. >> hey, you're a good guy, bill. >> i appreciate that. >> on the other -- >> wait. >> okay. >> let's slow down a little bit. >> 7 million people a year

across the board -- border? why couldn't you secure it? >> the economy got better. >> i was upset. >> i know . >> once upon a time we thought journalism was ale calling. >> i still think i'm doing something noble. >> there is talk that you are more machine than man. but i believe we can bring you back. >> no. we'll be like we are in real life. me very successful, you just hanging on. >> all right. >> you object to showing an identification card when you vote? >> no. of course not. >> that's what the republicans want. >> how do you think i would look in this -- >> i don't know. >> i don't, i don't know. >> in the 1850s this was in. >> life ex-peck ten si was 12. everybody died. >> but the beards were awesome. >> rob has been with us from the beginning. he's the best in the business. hope you en joyed it.

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factor tip of the day on megyn kelly in a moment. first let's talk about christmas. two and a half months away. my new book "killing jesus" doing well all over the country. christmas sales are projected to be enormous. if you want me to sign books for you as gifts, please get the orders in now before my hand falls off. in addition we have put "killing lincoln" and "killing kennedy" together. two books at a great price that makes a great gift. check it out on billore illy.com. now the mail. bill, i feel i can trust you. i'm married with a young child and work at a restaurant. since the government shutdown my tips have fallen dramatically. the shutdown is affect ing many

working people. i know. hang in there. while the pipheads in washington are playing games folks like you are getting hurt. mark from florida. the russian president putin is every bit as qualified as barack obama to win the nobel peace prize. sarcasm noted. bill, you chose chris uh matthews pinhead of the week because of of the t killing o'reilly remark. you need to lighten up. you need to smarten up, rick. jesse selected matthews, not me. if i were lighter i'd float away. peter from buffalo, new york. loved the tip of the day about confronting dishonesty on the spot. i do it on the internet. i'm glad you do but correct ing the record in cyberspace may be futile. there is so much garbage around. at least you know you're a truth teller. gene rudowski, hazelton, pen pen. enjoyed and was inspired by "killing jesus." the style you have used made me

feel like i was there, part of the story. i appreciate you reading my book. stephanie will bings, louisiana. i am the librarian at the good hope middle school. the kids love lincoln's last days and kennedy's last days. they are good reads and one of the reasons i got into this business. if you get them the books they take an interest in history. >> bill, our son glenn passed away. he was involved with helping others. we are donating $15,000 to the independence fund.org to buy a wheelchair for a wounded vet. that's a brilliant tribute to glen. we are sorry for your loss. the independence fund will be in touch. you will know exactly who gets the track chair so you can kor responsibility with him or her if you want to. once again i appreciate that, guys. finally the factor tip of the day. megyn kelly, her new program

"the kelly file" debuts in a few minutes. i hope you stick around to watch it. i first met megyn while she was covering the supreme court. i was impressed with her grit. what does that mean? grit is determination, a drive to be the best and not take a lot of guff from charlatans. it's not a chip on your shoulder but a belief in yourself and a quest for excellence. kelly has it. she's honest to boot. here is the tip of the day. grab the grit in your life and respect it in others when you see it. the kelly file is next. that is it for us. check out the fox news factor website. also spout off about the factor from anywhere in the world. oreilly@fox news.com. name and town if you wish to opine. word of the day, do not be a charlatan when writing to the factor. i think i defeat ed the frog. he tried his best.

if he comes out i'm going to squeeze him, but not hurt him. thanks for watching tonight. i'm bill o'reilly. please always remember the spin stops here because we are definitely looking out for you. welcome to the very first broadcast of "the kelly file" live from new york where tonight ted cruz is here to tell us what it's like for a senator to be called a terrorist and that's just from his own party. plus -- is the administration intentionally making the shutdown harder on americans than it has to be? the stars of "the five" join us live to talk about it. and to react to the most awkward moment on tv today. and, yes, it involved miley cyrus. plus, after a woman crashed her car into the dar kads near the white house her family blamed post partum depression. now they are challenging the cops. >> why was my sister sho