them. i check them out and i personally respond to a lot of the tweets. so follow me at megan kelly and we'll continue the conversation. thanks for watching, everybody. we'll see you tomorrow right here on "the kelly file." tonight on this studio audience edition of "hannit tonight on the "studio audience edition of"hannity." this rowdy group are going to be under one group to tackle the topics of the shutdown and the debt limit. >> he know what is my phone number is. all he has to do is call. >> game on. >> they're no, siring the american people to buy a product they do not want and cannot afford. >> the speaker answers the call

of conservatives. >> it's irresponsible of the president to even talk about default. >> this administration's take it or leave it approach is just minutes away. >> has anyone signed up for obama care yet? even hollywood is now losing hope. tonight, we'll take you to the frontlines of obama care and speak to real doctors about the life-changing impacts of this law. an all new "hannity" starts right now. >> we will reach the one-week anniversary of the obama rf reid shut doup and six day into the stalemate. barack obama has this message for house republicans. let's take a look. >> we're not going to negotiate under the threat of further arm to our economy and middle class families. we're not going to negotiate under the threat of a prolonged

shutdown until republicans get 100% of what they want. if republicans and speaker boehner say there's not enough votes, then they should prove it. let the bill go to the floor and see what happens. just vote. let every member of the congress phototheir conscious and they can determine whether or not they want to shut the government down. >> just yesterday, the speaker of the house slammed the door on obama's no negotiating strategy. here's what he said. >> the votes aren't in the house to pass a clean debt limit. and the president is risking default by not having the conversation with us. >> so under no circumstances are you going to paz a clean debt? soo. >> we're not going down that path. it's time to deal with america's problems? >> ewith thought we would remind you, our viewers how the administration is using the shutdown to demonize republicans. so over the course of the next 60 minutes we're going to scroll the many sights and services the

president himself has chosen to take offline. the list was compiled with the help of our friends over at brightbart.com. how's the wonderful studio audience? >> we are ten day, michelle fields, away from a debt ceiling that our secretary of the treasury says is catastrophe. the president will not negotiate republicans. what's going to happen? >> democrats want this shutdown. they are trying to make this as painful as possible for the american people. republicans passed bill, they sent it to the senate and the senate is the one that's blocking it. they're not willing to compromise. republicans are willing to compromise. and it's a failure of leadership on the president's part. >> penny, you're a democrat, defund delay? get rid of all special exemptions, let's have a conference and talk. >> we've had this debate. >> you're a democrat. >> we have had this conversation. we've been having it since 2009.

it has been debated and it became the law in 2011. we had an election ability it. democrats won. >> republicans within in the house? did the republicans win in the house? >> they lost seats in the house. >> democrats increased in the senate and we had a supreme court decide this is the law of the land. sean, that was never, ever going to be a point of negotiation. >> i read the constitution and we have separation of powers and i thought we had checks and balances in our system. i thought the house had the power of the purse. >> it's the job of the president to lead. and it's the job of all presidents to lead. they can't say it's my way or the high. leaders figure out way to keep people together. the president is saying i will not negotiate. it's the absence of leadership. >> negotiation is about you get something, i get something. so far the president has said most of what is in, you know,

this current package, the republicans approve of in terms of numbers. i think the republican party is getting something. nay ear just not happening in the way the speaker wants. >> he ear warning about a default. have you ever seen an example like this? >> i got to tell you, this is how the president operates. so many times the house was looking for someone to negotiate with and the president was missing. there's no leadership happening from the president or the leadership from in the senate. and senator cruz stepped in to fill that place. i only wish other republicans, senators from his own state would step in and help him. there is a lack of leadership.

>> i think we agree bhob woodward, even he said this is on the president's head because he has -- as ari said, an obligation to lead. doesn't have an an obligation to talk to them? he's going to talk to the russians, the new president of iran, but he can't talk to speaker boehner? >> it's funny, when you talk about the people on your side of the aisle and drinking that kool-aid, i have quote after quote after kwoeft of republicans, even some that work here that talk about how this is a idea caucus. the republicans are delusional, sean, if they think the president is going to negotiate to defund b, negotiate to rep l repeal, to replace a legislation -- >> so the president of the united states -- >> it's landmark. >> we're ten days away from a default. his open secretary of the treasury will said it's

disastrous. >> 21 republicans now say put it to a vote, a clean vote. >> 435 members of the u.s. house, that's the branch that's closest to the american people. which tells you the reason why this is happening right now, the majority of the american people do not want this bill. they're willing to do whatever they can. >> no. >> yes. they do no the want this bill. >> i think the question -- nina, you're more objective. >> i'm in washington. >> i talk to people there. >> is this a less blessing or a curse? >> let's say the president did negotiate. let's say he made some mooumt on reforming entitlements, some of which he's agreed to in the past on medicare and social security. let's say speaker boehner got a deal out of this white house, those republicans who started this over obama care won't go along with that. they started down this path, which was an unwinnable fight. they knew they couldn't win. they knew they didn't have the senate.

they knew they didn't have the white house. they knew this was an unwinnable fight. they want to defund obama care. they're waiting for obama to blink and it's not going to happen. >> the last offer was exemptions, special exemptions for big business and the subsidy exemption for members of congress. >> i would say the defund obama care crowd -- >> am i part of that kro you had? >> to align themselves with unions, labor unions have problems with obama care, but their strategy is on taking down republicans that disagree with their tactics. >> if the president gets away with this no negotiating strategy both on the debt limit and obama care then any lempl that republicans have, and they are in control of the house is gone. why would they do that? >> well, of course, the president said i won't negotiate while they're holding something over my head. but that's the only way there's negotiations. he holds something over the

republicans' head and the republicans hold something over his head. i just want to add one other thing that a lot of americans don't know. i do believe that the president thinks so politically that hurting americans is okay for his strategy. and i want to give one example. and i would love the liberals to respond to. why since sequester has the president not allowed tours of the white house? it costs virtually nothing. and there's a reason. he's petulant, he's immature and he wants to hurt the american people. i would love liberals to respond to that particular thing. >> because he wants to inflict harm. >> you're a liberal. >> hurting the american people, i only think of one party. you look at the paul ryan budget which hurts women, children, infant, we can go on and on and on about how they'll do everything possible to make sure you don't fund middle class families, working families, don't put the american people back to work, that is hurting the american people. >> you want to know whoo what's hurting american families?

$17 trillion in debt. $90 trillion in unfunded liabilities. you know what's hurting american families. stop stealing their future and placing the burden of debt on their shoulder mps. >> i hear that. >> you hear that and so here are the numbers. >> when mothers are talking about how they're going to feed their kids today, that's completely different conversation from the receive it. -- deficit. >> why aren't we talking about not taking away food stamps from thoseless privileged. why are we not giving them student loans to get an education? enby the way, dennis, this is why i think we shouldn't have tours of the white house right now, because we just had a crazy woman try and perhaps kill the president in washington. every other week there's some kind of a massacre if somebody is nuts a again ets a gun in their hand. >> to know one day some woman would drive into tcapital? the if the wants americans to hurt so he can win politically. >> this is a wild goose chase

we've just been led down, no offense. but the president is really -- they're trying to do as much damage as they can to get people to feel the pane, to try to get the public on their side. here's the problem. this president goes on national television and says, our veterans, our children, all of these things, the house goes throw through, passes bills to address those issues, and the senate won't take them up. you know, my friend on the left keep talking about a clean vote in the house. just the president is demanding now that we have a clean vote in the house, why don't they have a clean vote in the senate on defunding obama care with only 51 votes enstead of the 60 in place right now. >> we'll have more with this lively studio audience throughout the hour. up next, rand bawl joins me from our nation's capital. he'll explain what it means for all of you each anticipate every day the president harry reid refuses to negotiate with republicans. and we're going to turn things back over to the audience. this is a special edition of "hannity" you can't afford to miss. you can prevent gas with beano meltaways,

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welcome back. in a few minutes we'll bring back the studio audience. at the bottom of the screen you can see the list of service it is white house has cherry-picked to close and defund during the obama/reid shutdown. joining me with reaction to the democrats ginning me now is reaction of

stubborn behavior, kentucky senator rand paul. how are you? >> good evening, sean, blad to be you. >> the president's golf course is open. no football, no baseball, satellite uplink from your troops. the world war ii memorial, vietnam memorial. those aren't open. makes one wonder, what is your thought about how they prioritized this? >> you got to wonder. apparently the amber alert has been shut down. but let's move weight loss program for the first lady is opened today. i come from kentucky and manmouth cave is just up the road. they were out there putting police tape along the unmanned trails. we have thousands of miles of trails. i guess they think no one would go underneath the police tape or walk around the police tape.

>> can you do anything similar in the senate. >> in the sna the, the democrats run all the committees so there's nothing we can do. they err playing games with the shutdown of government. but what's more serious than that is they're also playing games with defaulting. and that does scare the marngts. it's irresponsible of the president or jack lew or any of his men and women to say the u.s. might default. that's scarying the marketplace. we have never defaulted, we will never default and hoo there's not even a reason to default. we have plenty of revenue to pay our interest payment. >> i think this is a really important point. i think they are trying to scare people and maximize the pain they can inflict on people. i think the democrats miscalculated here, this whole idea we're not going to negotiate. and i think we're seeing this now show up in the polls. how long do you think it will be

before obama and reid have to sit down like adults and fut their toys aside and start talking like regular people? >> i've always said a shutdown was a bad idea. i didn't want to be where we are now, but now that we are here, neither party wins. and if they can really fool themselves and think they're win, the longer we're doing this, republicans are getting beat up, eventually both parties will be beat up. everybody is going to be frustrated. anticipate oont you'lly they're going to be looking for us to have negotiations and a compromise. i think a compromise exists, but the president is going to have to give in a little bit bit and say the country is going bankrupt and i will restrain some spending. that's all we're asking. we're worried about the bankruptcy of the country. ppen. asking some kind of >> the house sent oef a number of bills to your chamber. they want to fund the nih and va and national parks and wic and the national guard and give back pay to those people that are innocent victims in all of this.

is there any chance any democrats come to you privately and say senator rand paul, isle be glad to help you? >> radio eventually maybe. right now, no. they think they're winning this political battle. they're happy to watch. they think it's a political battle and it's gamesmanship for them. but i will say, when you look at this and you see what's happening with these things, they've been saying they want a clean cr, a spending bill without riders. all of the things that we're passing in the house that you just mentioned, veterans affairs, nih, those are clean crs, they're just small spending bills. and that's really the wra it was intended to happen. historically around mere, we would pass 12 spending bills a year and you couldn't shut down government if we were doing our job properly. if harry reid brought fourth appropriation bills, there would be no spending to hold the leverage. >> my advice is republicans knts give into thf bulthis bullying.

the president has constitutional authority and the house has constitutional authority as well. hold the line. i hope they'll do that. thanks for being with us. and coming up next -- >> i call it legislative arsonists. they're there to burn down. >> the republican inmates are running the asylum. >> we're not for negotiations with a bomb strapped to their chest. >> the left has now hit a new low when it comes to attacking conservatives. good job! still running in the morning? yeah.

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>> i called it legislative arsonist. they're there to burn down. >> the republican inmates are running the asylum. >> what we're not for is negotiating with people with a bomb strapped to their chest. >> we can't do it with a gun held to the head. >> if you could help one child with cancer, why wouldn't you want to do it? >> hostages. >> the hostage taker.

>> taking their teddy bear and bl blankie saying if i don't get my way -- >> speaker boehner need to engage in something like the ancient practice of sacrifice. >> it is just incredible to me to watch these republicans putting on their suicide vests. >> i think it's terrorism. >> political terrorism. >> they're trying to blow your children up. >> i will no the negotiate. >> he will not negotiate. >> in case there's any confusion. i will not noeregotiate. >> isn't this insane? >> pret i unbelievable now democrats prove yet again when they can't come up with a substantial argument to defend their left wing position, they resort to the rhetoric you just heard. we continue now with our very lively studio audience. mia, what do you make of that rhetoric? >> first of all, i want to talk about how this is all about political posturing.

this has nothing to do with the future of our children. if you think about it, i said at the national republican convention that our determination as americans, are found in every child that look at impossible things and say i can do that. my 12-year-old by the time she goes to school because of government takeover of health care, government takeover of education, she will find herself looking at $150,000 of tuition in a year. an average cost. how is she by the time she gets her portion of the debt and her tuition and all of her other things, how is she supposed to make a difference? this is an't n-- about throwing our kids under the bus. we've got to do what we can to preserve their opportunities. >> eric? >> i totally agree with that. we need to keep the government shut down until barack obama yields on obama care. we want repeal. we'll go with defund. if we've got to go with delay, we will. but that's it. >> did they go far enough when

they said special exemptions? >> congress is going to find a way around obama care. this has to be about ke delay or defund. it's going to kill the economy. >> what about the rhetoric pop i'm so completely puzzled as to why we're having the conversation about repealing or defunding obama care. the supreme court has spoken. it is the law of the land. now, next. >> here is the problem. nobody believes the president. nobody trusts the president. the president believes -- would have us believe the only red line he would not erase is the one he's drawn with the republicans. he's got to get into negotiations. he's put himself into a corner now where he's got about lutist rhetoric that'sleading us to the brink. bob gates, is the only person who's trust bd i both sides and says come in and put these people in a room and get something going. if he's the president, if he's going to lead, he has to pick up the foemphone and lead.

>> related to the rhetoric, all that both sides are doing, both sides have engaged in it. they're appealing to their base and they're more concerned with winning the political war and winning public opinion than actual consequences. with what we're seeing is all over the world, people aren't trusting america anymore. they look at, our country can't get anything done. and both parties need to take responsibility. but especially, i agree with you, ari, our president. we need to look at the consequences of this elevated rhetoric instead of just saying whatever we want in the moment. >> take a look at the rhetoric and the results from that. the same democratic party that ran ads paul ryan pushing an elderly grandma off the cliff, harry reid, you heard him say why would we want to fund nih if

we could save one child. president obama is dishonest. he and eric holder sent letters to their employees during the shutdown and said we are working with congress to make sure you get back to work. but is he negotiating? he's not. he's not only dishonest about the american people and their stance but the people at their furloughs not getting a paycheck. >> this is a president who said the time has come to stop the name calling. and then you see that clip that you just showed. the president has for years been the most polarizing president we've ever had in history according to all the polls that have been taken on that measure. he doesn't realize the president has that power to set a tone and oh people follow it .. the tone he's sending has been a divisive one almost from the start. the republicans have contributed to it as well, sean. init's incumbent on all of them to figure out how to get out of it. it remains to be seen whether they're capable of doing it. i think that he's right, he's making a good point, we probably

need the wide sage from outside to step in. >> bob gates in. >> wait a minute, you make a good point. i remember the president after the tucson shooting, we ought to be using language that would make them proud, that they would be proud of. is that rhetoric what you just saw. would that make us ploroud? >> both sides are to blame. >> everyone says that. give me an example of conservative s using the same language. >> obama care is going to be the worst law ever, worst than slavery. >> who? who? >> the governor of virginia. >> there is plenty of heated rhetoric on both sides. and i agree that the president is on to him. the president does noo eed to bg both sides together. john boehner is moving the

football every day. >> that's not true. >> he said to his own caucus on friday that he -- >> hang on a second. >> he said a clean debt limit. then on sunday he said no. >> wait a minute. he has drawn a lean in the sand. >> i agree with you. i relooked at the history from '9' '95 when they shut down the government. but they talked. i do agree that it is incumbent for the president to hold these summits and have the conversations. whether or not you call it a negotiations there should be discussions. >> how many people think the president owes it to the country to at least engage in a discussion? >> everybody. >> he has. he already has, sean. he already has. >> he said he would not negotiate. >> further. >> there's distinction here. the president had a negotiation with the american people and the election of 2012 where he was re-elected.

we increased -- wait a minute. we increased our majorities in the united states house and senate. of. >> did the republicans win the house? did the republicans win the house? do the republicans have control of the house? >> didn't they all make a promise they would do everything they could to repeal. >> obama care is on the ballot. >> the 2012 election was not about obama care. it's still largely unpopular. >> the democrats should have done everything george w. bushf tooed in 2005. we are not a british constitutional system where parliament goes along with the president. we're an american system. we have checks and balances. the president is being checked t the congress is being balanancb. >> a lot of this is democrats and obamas are looking at the polls. the polls show that americans are going to blame the republicans for thethe shut dou.

they don't care if the american people are going to be hurt. it's hurting republicans and that's all that matters a at the end of theay. >> we'll look at the specific issue of people as political pawns. and don't just take our word for it that the president's health care law is is a complete and utter mess. two doctors on the frontlines in the fight against obama care are going to join us from their offices to describe the difficulties, the hurdles in providing critical care to their patients. we always want to hear from you. log on to hannity live. go to twitter @seanhannity. we will come back with this quiet audience. raser? i need to redeem some venture miles before my demise. okay. it's easy to erase any recent travel expense i want. just pick that flight right there. mmm hmmm. give it a few taps, and...it's taken care of.

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here to shed some light on the challenges they faced in the first week alone and the average american citizen, what you can expect in the long run. cardiologist drvmt kevin campbell and surgeon dimitri aldron. i hope i never need either one of you ever. i hope i stay healthy. dr. campbell, let's talk about you. what was the first week like, people signing up? we heard nothing but glitches and difficulties. >> anticipate that's exactly what we expected. to be honest with you, i go to work every single day with one goal -- providing high quality, efficient care for my patients. i am very concerned that this new health care law is going to impede my ability to do just that. >> why? >> i think that we are asked to do more with less. reimbursement rates are falling. we're having to cut staffing so that now to make a more efficient office to see more patients, we're doing it with

less staff. we're using fi station extenders, such as physician assistance and nurse practitioners. we are not using all our ends in the office. we're using metd call assistants of that sort. it's a real challenge. patients say doc, can i get done whatever i need to have done before the health care law takes into effect? i'm afraid mr. obama is not going to let me have a new defibrillator or pacemaker. there's a lot of misunderstanding out there. >> i have a lot of members in my family in medicine. perhaps i know more than i should, although i don't play a doctor on tv, but in all seriousness, most people don't know with these reimbursement rates, they decide what you get paid. in other words, the free market doesn't decide. for example, you get x number of dollars, you are a surgeon, for a particular procedure. isn't that true? and others determine that fee? >> that's correct, sean.

insurance kpacompanies have established rates for people in their network. and those rates are sometimes quite low. and in certain instances, they're actually lower than the medicare rate, which makes private practice virtually impossible to exist. and i think if this is going to continue, the private practice will cease to exist in the very near future. and the other significant problem with the insurance exchanges is the limiting access to specialists. a lot of specialists are not part of the exchanges. a lot of university centers are not part of the changes. and therefore, a lot of patients with sophisticated complex problems require complex care, which i provide in surgery cannot see me. and as a result, they're forced by the insurance kpaeps to travel to remote areas where the insurance companies have made a deal with some doctors or hospitals where they can be taken care of, quite commonly at

a lower level of care. >> so dr. campbell, what do you anticipate is going to happen over the long term? doctors won't be able to give the care or the attention they once gave? and they're going to be rushing people in and out just so they can keep their lights on and purchase equipment? >> i think that's going to be part of it. i think one of the things that concerns me most to echo the last point is some of my long-time patients may not be able to see me if they're not part of a preferred network that the affordable care act exchanges are going to dictate. that means that i've had a long standing relationship with you as your cardiologist. we've managed your care through multiple heart attacks and then you're going to have to go see someone else who doesn't know you as well, who hasn't bonded with you. we know that engaged patients have better outcomes. so if we have a relationship and we work together in our health care, your ear going to do better. and you're going to have to start over. it's like having a divorce. it's a traumatic thing for both patient and physician.

. >> last question. how many doctors do you think are going to move into, like, private practice, specialized care, cadillac premium services that people who are just willing to pay for their services, they'll cater only to them and not take any of the exchange money? >> i think it's going to be very hard to determine. because in today's environment, we are already facing a doctor shortage. it's very hard to tell how it's going to impact. right now, 42% of american surgeons are 55 years or older. and as a result, we have aging population of surgeons and a lot of new doctors are not coming onboard because they're afraid that after going through rigors of residency and research and borrowing a large amount of much, they're not going to be able to pay their student loans in the future. i fear we have two-tier system, one for those who can afford

complex care, concierge medic e medicine, and those who don't. by the way, i want to say my experience today, talking to one of the insurance companies about an 80-year-old lady who's dying in the hospital and questioning why the insurance has denied the famt. the answer from the representative of this very large nationwide insurance company was guess what? we don't cover dying. >> wow. pretty sad. tell that to sara murnahan, that little 11-year-old girl if kathleen sabilias had her way, some people live, some people die. now that the doctors gave it to you straight. when we return, the liberals in our audience, they're going to enlighten you as to why obama care is so great for you. and then later, "saturday night live's" raunchy spoof on the government shut down featuring a

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you heard from two doctors about the disastrous and life-altering changes obama care will have on your life. why are they so helln't be on this law and trying to convince you that politicians no better than doctors. leslie marshall, we've got -- let's say, obama care costing 66,000 jobs in illinois. from the canadian national post today, canada's national government health care is facing a fiscal crisis as is great britain's. why do you want to implement here what has failed there? >> the first, the system we have here is not the system in canada or great britain. >> government run. >> i'm married to a orthopedic surgeon. and those testimony systems, were the i shurns compansurance allowing people to die in a sense before, the answer is yes. my husband is constantly told he can't operate. doctors take a hypocratic oath. they can't just do it for money.

and the reason you said, i hope i don't have to see you to the cardiologist is because of that preventive care, which democrats looic myself want that for everybody. people with pre-existing positions. >> i don't like the system either, but there are conservative solutions out there. nina, i'm a conservative. ill like catastrophic insurance, and yet that's your money, your decision, the free market, portability, take your plan from job to job. that's what i would believe. >> that's a good thing to talk about, sean. but linking obama care, defunding obama care to the funding of the federal government or the debt ceiling is not a smart thing to do, first of all, and second -- >> why isn't it smart. >> because it's holding our economy hostage. the last time we had a government shut doup, we hdown, better economy than we do now. we have an anemic economy.

we have unespecially ploimploym still. we have record unemployment. sitting home -- wait a second. the government shutdown is like a fender bender. it's hurting the economy and if we defaulted on the debt, that would be like a 100-car pile-up. >> sounds like you're just blaming republicans. are you saying the president doesn't have any role in this? >> we're sitting here blaming the president. what about the republicans who will not agree with a deal that doesn't defund obama care. >> defund, delay, no special exemptions and talk. >> it's important to recognize a segment of the house that will not vote for any deal that does not defund obama care. >> this is what i think a lot of people are missing with this. i keep hearing our friends on the left talk about it's the law, it was passed by the house, it was passed by the senate, the supreme court. look, i think we would be better off in this country if we had a congress that did nothing but repeal bad laws. i think a lot of us in the -- the american people out there are saying you've done too much.

get off of our backs. and obama care represents to a vast majority of americans a difference, a change in the relationship tweep our government and us as citizens. and they're taking our freedoms away. >> eric? >> the democrats keep saying this is the law of the land. as if we can't doing in about it. george bush's tax cuts were the law of the lapped. democrats spent years trying to undermine those tax cuts. we know this is a bad law. the democrats have refused to negotiate whatsoever to make changes to it. the president has decided by fiat to exempt people from it, give special exemptions to it. they won't come to the republicans. and we know today based on the white house's own statement that the websites won't be good for another six months for people to enroll, why can't we delay the individual mandate? >> when we come back, next tonight on "hannity." ♪ we can say what we want to ♪ yeah, yeah >> that's "saturday night live"

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>> i want john boehner in a tanning booth though. >> we all think it went too far. it's obvious. the popular culture has been e degraded. and it's one of my angers at the left that it's done this. that it's abolished any notion of the profane. the judeo-christian concept of holy is dead. >> i'm just so concerned with the way that republican women continue to be represented in the media, especially by the left like "snl." that michele bachmann, a total sexual policy and notl object n. it's something to be laughed at and not concerned about. >> what about michele obama. >> what if that was your liberal. >> it's not fafr on ooir on eit.

>> it's a parody. there's been comedy of -->> what if michele bachmann was michelle obama. >> you have seen her on the cover of "the new yorker" as an anim animal. >> there would be condemnation all across this country. >> there's a reason why "snl request the is irrelevant and no one watches it anymore. it's not funny. that is not funny at all. and if you look at the ratings of who's doing great, it's jay leno. >> i have one last question. >> bring back steve martin. that will fix everything. >> last question for everybody, how is this all going to end? >> it's going to end with a negotiation that begins in the white house led by the president calling in -- hopefully, he's got to get his a-team back, whether it's david axelrod. >> no, he does not. >> so you're saying he needs to negotiate? >> bring in someone like gates. >> the president will eventually negotiate? >> not on obama care?

>> he's pet leapt and immature and he's not going to go down on this. >> we've got to figure out which republican is going to show up. is it going to be john boehner as speaker or him beholden to ted cruz and the right wing. >> you're saying the president will give in and negotiate? >> not on obama care. >> there will be no benefit of bo bama care. they're seeing the benefit of the plan. no preconditions, women can get pap smear, preventive health care. >> i'm so sick of this notion that it is good thing for young adults to be on their health insurance. >> young adults in college. >> i'm speaking, thank you. >> there's a difference. >> it is not a good thing to be on your patients health insurance as a 25-year-old. it's a good thing to be independent with a job. we are not children. >> give yourselves a big hand. you're representing america.

and thank you all. that is all the time we have left this evening. as always, thank you for being with us. we're back at our new time tomorrow night, wake up to fox and friends tomorrow morning. see you back here, 10:00 eastern tomorrow night. report." row night fair, balanced and unafraid. >> it is 7:00 p.m. eastern and this is "on the record" at a brand new time coming from a brand new time in from our brand new studio in washington. just tonight when you thought you heard it all this is unbelievable. >> the extremists. >> legislative arsonists. >> hostage-taking tactics. >> why don't they get a life? >> i will work harder and i hope my senators will work to their best to maintain these habits of civility and decorum going forward. >> the problem is the senate. >> white ring extremists. >> tea party driven action. >> the president is still sitting on the sidelines. >> it's time for us to sit down and have a conversation. >> the president has taken many steps over the last several years to