bounds. no wonder kids are doing stupid far riskier stunts on kwraoup. -- on youtube. let them play. >> thanks to everyone who responded. "fox & friends" starts right now. bye. >>elisabeth: good morning. it's tuesday, october 8. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. we now know navy seals retreated from a mission to raid a terrorist hideout and they didn't get their target. what went wrong in somalia? when you hear, you'll be proud to be an american. >>steve: sure will be. our world world war ii veterans had to fight to get access to their world war ii memorial on the national mall during this shutdown but no barricades at the national mall later today for a proimmigration rally. what gives? we're going to fill you in. >>brian: hey kids, better drop that football, put down the lacrosse ball. did i tell you not to pick up the baseball before somebody gets hurt.

one school on long island banning all types of fun because it's too rough for recess. they ran out of bat teams. "fox & friends" starts now. >> this is toby keith and you're watching my favorite tv show, "fox & friends." >>steve: and he means it. >>brian: toby keith, he sang the red cup song when he was here. >>elisabeth: "red solo cup." >>brian: that was pre-elizabeth. >>steve: today is day eight of the shutdown. >>elisabeth: and new talks are going to be about the debt ceiling. this seems to be maybe some possibility that the house can actually put something in front of, and throw out the idea that the debt ceiling will be raised and the president might then consider it. >>brian: thinking about now for the first taoeuplt president made it clear -- for the first time the

president made it clear or he's indicated he might be looking for a two-week repraoefrb when -- reprieve. he might be open to a short-term fix. there's a lot of panic all around but they're still talking at each other, not to each other. >>steve: at 9:00 the house is going to meet and figure out what they are going to do. they are incensed by the fact that the president of the united states will not sit down and even talk with them. they're not in any mood to compromise right now. they do appear to be united. one top-ranking republican said we are waiting for the phone to ring. you know who's not picking up the phone right now? the president of the united states. you know who's waiting for the phone to ring? the speaker of the house, john boehner. here they both are yesterday. >> i'm happy to talk to republicans about anything related to the budget.

there's not a subject that i am not willing to engage in. what i've said is that i cannot do that under the threat that if republicans don't get 100% of their way they're going to either shut down the government or they're going to default on america's debt. >> really? the president -- i'm going to say this again. a senior white house staffer this morning said the president would rather default on our debt than to sit down and negotiate. really? mr. president, it's time to have that conversation before our economy is put further at risk. >>brian: the rest of the world is getting a little jittery. it seems at that asia summit china has taken over and enjoying the spotlight. we usually dominate there. they said we invested about $50 billion new guys and would like to know you're going to honor your commitments. as is the european union,

saying this could put us directly flat down on the mat. >>elisabeth: this makes you feel like children with two parents arguing. >>steve: will you tell your mother -- >>elisabeth: maybe tomorrow. call me. no, no, dad says he'll call you. he's not calling. we're in the middle of the most gruesome argument that really has our kids about to bear the weight of financial burden for, gosh, centuries if they don't get it together. >>brian: the "post" did a poll. they found out 70% of the americans still disapprove of the way republicans are handling this and 63% said last week they were upset with the republicans while 24% are approving. president obama's approval rating is at 45% but 51% disapprove of the way he's handling. >>steve: while 70% of those polled by "the washington post," over 60% don't like the way democrats are handling it. >>brian: 63.

>>steve: people are blaming both sides because they're not talking. eventually they're going to have to do something and we'll be standing by for that. in the meantime we've been telling you about how, because of the federal shutdown, the national mall has been closed. extraordinarily for the first time in history, they put police tape up around the war yes -- around the war memorials. this never happened before. last week world war ii vets did one of those honor flights. they had to storm the barricades. they were escorted by a number of members of congress. so those vets had to storm the barricades to get into the mall because it's closed. you know what? turns out the national mall is opening up later today for an immigration rally called camino americano, march for immigration reform hosted by the afl cry and the park -- and the afl-cio and the park

service said come in. >>elisabeth: about 30 members are about to attend including house speaker nancy pelosi and i think menendez. 30 of them are going to be there. maybe they should be doing other things today as well. >>steve: a spokesman said the national park service will allow the event under the group's rights granted by the first amendment. here's his statement. under the same first amendment right that are allowing honor flight veterans and their families to visit the veterans memorial on the national mall, other groups will be granted access to the parks. >>elisabeth: represent palosso said he went in there to go into the white house to say can other groups gain access to the memorials. he was rejected. veterans are paving the way for the rest of us. it seems easy for everybody else. bottom line, those memorials should be open. >>steve: but they're

still closed. seems to be a gigantic double standard. the war memorials never closed before and yet they are. yet the whole mall is closed right now except for the immigration rally. what do you think about that? is it fair? is it equitable? e-mail us at friends@foxnews.com or twitter us at tpobgz "fox & friends." >> terror raids carried out in libya and somalia. seal team six abandoned its mission when they saw there were children at that compound. in libya, u.s. officials confirming that aby anas al libi is being interviewed on the u.s.s. san antonio and could be in a new york courtroom by the end of this week. new developments in the stabbing death of a soldier in washington state. thee more soldiers are now

under arrest and are expected to appear in court later today. kevin geikey was walking down the highway with friends when a car carrying five other men pulled over. the group then exchanged words. police say jeremiah hill has confessed to stabbing geikey while giving him a bear hug. >> you're a traitor. you betrayed your country. at some point you served your country and now you killed a man that was doing the same. >> we understand that police say that they're no longer investigating this as a hate crime. we'll keep you posted. >> bombshell new details about the bikers who attacked a man while his wife and child were forced to watch. forces say that the off-duty undercover cop who told investigators he wasn't involved with this actually lied. police reportedly have new video showing the seven-year police veteran was pounding on lien's

range rover. that cop was placed on modified duty. this development coming as a fourth biker was just arrested. california just passing a law allowing illegal immigrants to drive. and another one to let them practice law. but the state is drawing the line here, not letting noncitizens serve on a jury. democratic governor jerry brown vetoed a bill that would have let illegal immigrants serve saying it's an obligation that only goes along with u.s. citizenship. no state currently allows noncitizens to serve on a jury. and those are your headlines at this hour. >>brian: there is a middle school i'm sure heather is familiar with, right over in port washington. they made a decision when it comes to recess. it's not nearly going to be as fun as it once was. >>elisabeth: no footballs, no baseballs, no

lacrosse balls that are hard. >>brian: it's all nerf. >>steve: the problem with the baseball, it is hard. if it hits you you might cry, you might get hurt. if it is a soccer ball that hits you in the head -- to and turned out fine. >>elisabeth: the district is saying they're trying to avoid injuries with this movement to take away fun. >>steve: in addition, rough games of tag and cart wheels are going to be banned if they are not supervisors because without pads and without helmets kids can get hurt. >>brian: what happened to the last 50 years, 100 years in this country? no one was banning anything. >>elisabeth: i want data to support this. what's next? no smiling? >>brian: you could hurt your cheeks. >>steve: let's call in a lawyer. i think it's brilliant on

the part of this middle school. now during recess the kids can sit around and text each other right into obesity. >>brian: here's the other thing. they say it's all about insurance and liability. you come out, you've got a concussion or you got a scrape or you break an arm, bend back a finger. now you can sue the school, sue the district. sadly for my people in fort washington,ness going to spread through -- this is going to spread throughout long island. roll out a supervisor, some of these gym coaches. make sure the kids aren't beating each other up. >>elisabeth: think about the actual space. i don't want baseball flying in my kitchen. in the backyard, you guys play catch over here, grace, you do cart wheels over here and everything is okay. i think maybe they should look at the space where the fun is happening. not just remove the fun from the space. >>steve: how did we ever get to this stage?

us as, we're now adults. we used to be little kids. we used to play with balls, throw footballs. we used to go swimming less than a half an hour after eating. all these rules we have these days to make sure kids grow up soft but safe, somehow we grew up rough and survived. >>elisabeth: i learned how to catch a baseball because i took one to the face. i don't want that to happen again. not recommending that but how it happened. >>elisabeth: elisabeth hasselbeck will help selgt the over half of the -- help settle the other half of the country. remember, i got hurt so often, do you remember iodine. we used to have a nurse, they had nothing to do. they would wait for a kid to have a fever. unless kids are allowed to scrape themselves up and play at recess. >>steve: in my school, the nurse could not give the kids an aspirin, not give the kids a tylenol. unless the parent signs a

release form, it is against the rules. let us know what you think. e-mail us at friends at tpobgz news.com. >>elisabeth: you can't bring a bottle of water through airport security but go ahead and pack your pot. >>brian: we're not recommending that. we're reading that. president obama giving the go-ahead concerning terrorists. is the administration changing tactics? we'll welcome colonel oliver north. ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] made just a little sweeter... ♪

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>>brian: two risky missions involving boots on the ground over the weekend. >>steve: that's right. for an administration known for its drone strikes, is it a sign of a change in terror tactics? we wonder. >>elisabeth: fox news military analyst colonel oliver north joins us now. he also has exclusive pictures of one of those raids. correct? >> it was the one in libya.

what transpired in these two operations is something that's instructive. the one in libya to go after al libi who was wanted for 15 years. he was involved in the planning of attacks on our embassies in nigh row -- in nairobi and tanzania. 15 years this guy has been walking around mostly in tripoli and libya. >>brian: and iran. >> in libya there was a $5 million reward offered for his capture or his body. and it was discovered that there was a private organization getting ready to pick him up and take him out because he was living in public. >>steve: like bounty hunters? >> yes. $5 million reward for justice. this is a photograph of him recently. but the photographs we brought back from an intelligence officer very familiar with this operation shows the aerial photograph taken of his compound and where he is. this is in tripoli, libya,

and then two ground surveillance photographs. ground surveillance means you've got human beings on the ground who are taking these photographs. >>steve: what does that mean, v.i. looking forth? >> you're looking through the point on the road where you're going to grab him if he gets out of his car. there's an x. you can't see it clearly on this stuff. there is a photograph taken of him literally as he's getting into his car on his way from -- >>steve: right there. >> that's it. a picture what he looked like in 1998, picture lower right, what the f.b.i. assumes he would look like 15 years later. at the center you can see him getting in his car after he's getting in after guys. >>steve: we've been droning a lot of guys and dead men don't talk. >> this operation was done by delta force. the operation in somali was

done by seals. no human intelligence. the problem is we're not getting good human intelligence. >>brian: in somalia, we get some resistance. you think that reflects our lack of human intelligence because we didn't know families would be in there? >> staebgt. -- exactly. then they had to withdraw. i was in somalia and you can see why you don't want to do that kind of operation without good intelligence. >>steve: they just raised the u.s. flag behind you. it seems so appropriate because this is ollie north birthday week. congratulations. [cheers and applause] >> 70 years. >>elisabeth: what is your birthday wish? >> people would give to freedom alliance, the foundation i started which supports scholarships for these youngsters, the guys we take on these hero

hunts. there is a website, happybirthdayollie.com. if they give to that, that would make a great birthday for me. >>brian: because you have everything else? >> i have everything i need. a lovely wife, four kids, 14 grandkids and a new wife. >>brian: and your i.d. to get you in the building. we're honored you spent your 70th birthday with us. thank you. >>steve: what's that website? >> happybirthdayollienorth.com. hope i got it right. >>brian: if not, we'll fix it. >>steve: she posed for playboy before she taught a schoolroom full of kids. should that matter? should she be fired?

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>>steve: we've got quick tuesday morning headlines for you. the transportation safety administration could soon mellow out on airline passengers flying with pot. the consideration comes now that 20 states legalized medical marijuana and two have legalized recreational use of marijuana. okay. a roof collapsed at a world war ii era blimp hangar damaging aircraft. falling roof caused a blast of helium to be released

forcing evacuation. the cause has not been determined. brian? >>brian: ever have those nights when you cannot fall asleep maybe because the jets are on, the game was close? only kidding. more and more of you are grabbing relaxation drinks to help you catch some z's at night because maybe you took some five-hour energy during the day. >>elisabeth: do they work? are they safe to use. fox news medical a team dr. david samadi joins us now. thanks for being here. relaxation. you heard a lot of about the five-hour energies. do these work and what's in them? >> none of us have that kind of problem. i could put my head down and pass out. these actually are completely opposite of what you described. culturally we always want the energizers and trying to wake up. these are supposed to calm you down. i went through all of these. great names. dream water, five-hour sleep. they all have ingredients

we give patients. melatonin. gava, which is a mood stabilizeer, antianxiety. they have put them in there and it actually works. a few people tell me this calms them down and it works. if you have a major sleeping problem. this is for people who have tried everything. they have gotten the best mattress and they have made the room calm and they have the same kind of going to bed and waking up, if you tried everything -- exercise, et cetera. you may want to try this. here's the thing. >>brian: you're saying don't get in the habit of doing this every day but if you are having trouble sleeping, you would try it. would you recommend against doing this every day? >> it is not f.d.a. regulated. a lot of times we may not know exactly what's in here. basically what they're listing, what i read, they're safe. if you have a huge show coming up and you're never nervous about this kind of

stuff but if you happen to be a little nervous, you need to be calm, you may try this once in a while. but i don't think you should get into the habit of drinking them. >>elisabeth: are these the natural result of people using these energy drinks? it sort of makes sense they're trying to balance out what's going on. >> i don't think you should get into the habit of taking energy drinks in the morning and using this at night. that would be too mechanical. there are people who may be anxious, may not be getting enough sleep, it may interfere with your work the next day. i think again once in a while if you try this, it has basically gaba which can calm down your mood and can relax you. i think you should still stick to all the natural stuff. >>brian: the energy drink industry is how much? >> $6 billion. >>brian: and this is? >> about $32 # million so it is about to catch up. that is because of our culture. everybody wants to be more energized and be more calm.

>>brian: dr. samadi, i've never seen you even look tired. i don't know what you're on. >>elisabeth: the thought was he was being patriotic decorating his school with american flags but the school not amused and the kid suspended. now his dream of being in the air force is on the line. >>brian: disability fraud is being exposed. how did this happen? there is only one man that can answer this question. since he's not here, we've got to go to stuart varney. ♪ ♪ ♪ what can i get you? i'll have that one. [ female announcer ] even saturday nights. ♪ and the barcode scanner so weekend road trips don't mean losing your way. you can lose weight and still live big. join weight watchers online for free and get the app today.

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♪ ♪ >>brian: the newly designed hundred dollar bill is being rolled out today by the u.s. treasury department with state-of-the-art features to prevent counterfeit. and we have some on the set. for example, there's little gold stripes through there. >>steve: when you move it, you can see hundreds in that little blue stripe. there is this ink well right there. inside it is the liberty bell. you can barely see it. you turn it, and the bell turns from copper to green. >>elisabeth: 25% linen, they say. >>brian: every bank is giving out hundred dollar bills. get down there and turn it in. if you bring a ten, they'll give you a hundred.

[buzzer] >>steve: look at franklin's face. are you looking at me? are you looking at me? >>brian: i interviewed -- i innovated bifocals, fireplace, fire department. what else? >>elisabeth: and kites. this is the most -- this bill is the one that most people try to reproduce. this is an aim to reduce that. >>steve: a scathing new report reveals billions of your benjamins are going to support people who are faking disabilities. if you saw "60 minutes" on sunday, you saw the country's top disability judges sum it up this way. >> if the american public knew what was going on in our system, half would be outraged and the other half

would apply for benefits. in 1971, fewer than 20% of claimants were represented. now over 80% of claimants are represented by attorneys or representatives. >> why do you think there's so many more lawyers involved in this than there used to be? >> it's lucrative. >> follow the money. >>elisabeth: can anything be done? senator tom coburn has been investigating it for two years and found some towns are worse than others. in a hearing on capitol hill yesterday, he blamed congress. >> congress continues to be the problem. with the clock ticking on the agency's trust fund, some in congress refuse to acknowledge that the disability programs are broken and in dire need of significant oversight. people who are truly disabled will pay the price of our dithering. >>brian: to make matters worse the program could run out of money in the next 18 months. why the heck is there so much scamming going on? what are we going to do to

help stop this? stuart varney is here. outraged by this? >> turning things around is an uphill struggle. you're fighting an army of lawyers who are making a ton of money out of representing clients who want to get on disability. 80% of people who are rejected for disability get a lawyer and then get on disability. and plus -- wait a minute -- you can claim for all kinds of unprovable conditions. joint pain, back pain, mood disorder. all of those are valid claims for disability. and you can't prove that you don't have them. uphill struggle to change this. >>steve: on the "60 minutes" report on sunday night on cbs, one of the disturbing things was i think the number-three disability lawyer in the country, according to volume, he apparently was working, it looks like, with a disability judge. and every single claim that the judge okayed, the lawyer brought 1,000 claims and he approved each and every one of them.

>> that is correct. >>steve: that looks like a dirty deal. >> it certainly does. that administrative law judge has been put on suspension. i think he's since retired. his fate is now in the hands of the justice department. >>steve: he retired. he's not in jail. >> he's not in jail. that was one specific case. we're talking about a much more generallyized fraudulent -- generalized fraudulent act. senator coburn believes 25% of claims are bogus and another 20% are questionable. this is a $135 billion per year program. it's running out of money. >>elisabeth: can you link this to unemployment? >> yes, i can. >>elisabeth: how? >> over the past two years -- i'm sorry. over the past four years, an extra two million people have gone on disability at precisely the same time the unemployment rate has come down because those two million people are not counted as unemployed. so it helps the unemployment statistics to get people on disability. it's not the whole story,

but that is part of the reason why the unemployment rate is falling, even though we're not creating new jobs. >>brian: people are segueing -- not all, from unemployment to disability. what you've got to do is put in an enforcement component. if you can stop a handful, the rest will go about it in an honest way. >> that is correct. there is a limited number of inspectors. >>brian: that's got to change over the next three years. >> it's in the administration's interest to change this. if you can push more people on to disability, don't you get the unemployment rate down, which makes you look good. >>elisabeth: why would they the get in there and regulate it? >> there is a contradiction here. why enforce it? >>brian: we don't have the revenue to supply those --

>>steve: stop making sense. unemployment runs two years. disability runs forever. there are a lot of people -- >> what is their option? they can't get a job. they are middle-aged people. they go on disability. >>brian: not to make you jealous, senator coburn will be on with us live. >>steve: are you happy for us? >> i am always happy for you. >>brian: 9:15 we'll watch varney and company. see if you can match it. game on, pal. >>elisabeth: thank you as always. we're going to head over to heather nauert. >> good morning. what a throwdown kilmeade. no free read to tell you about this morning. republican congressman sanford telling his staff to get back to work despite the shutdown. he says there is no reason they should stay home since the house passed legislation guaranteeing all federal employees will get their back pay. text parents are out--

texas parents are outraged after learning one of their high school teachers has a racy past. 21-year-old cristy nicole deweese was playboy's coed of the month before she was employed as a spanish teacher. with the pictures out in the open for any parent or students to see, some parents say they want her fired. high school student in minnesota suspended for a week for showing his patriotism. it was some sort of a senior prank, and this guy and some of his friends decided they wanted to paint flags on doors and windows so they put up red, white, and blue straoerpls also and put -- streamsers and put up a small american flag at the school. his school says his suspension could hurt his chances of getting a scholarship with the air force. >> we wanted to say we really do care about our

country. it is a senior prank, not a crime of the century. >> the rest of the kids were only suspended for two weeks. -- for two days. >>steve: i'm confused. he got in trouble for being patriotic? >> yes. he got in trouble for putting up these streamers. the school superintendent said, quote, we have to take these things seriously. you'd think they have more important things to do at the school than worry about this. >>steve: heather, thank you very much. >>brian: anyone seen maria? >>steve: absolutely. she's been checking her barometer, her thermometer and anonometer. >>elisabeth: you helped me big time tracking the storm. thank you. i went to get my kids and maria and i were on speed

text all day. >> we were on tornado watch. >>steve: there was a tornado reportedly just four miles of my house. >> and damaging wind across the northeast. incredible weather in the northeast. thankfully today we're not really expecting to see that kind of weather across parts of the northeast. much quieter, temperatures closer to normal for the month of october. you're talking a lot of sunshine as well. across parts -flt -- parts of the southeast we are expecting showers and thunderstorms. it will track up the east coast and we're expecting to see areas of heavy rain, strong wind and potentially beach erosion out here across parts of the carolinas and eventually into the mid-atlantic as we head into tomorrow. again looking at rough weather associated with that area of low pressure. otherwise the center of the country looking at temperatures very pleasant. upper 70's in minneapolis and also in kansas city. otherwise texas in the 80's, feeling like summer. let's head over to brian.

>>brian: monday night football, got a call from a telemarketing at 10:15, i couldn't find out what happened. but close game between the jets and falcons. my phone rings and wakes me up. bring back the falcons. this strike, touchdown. they take a one point lead with twaoupbd minutes to play. jets would blow it; right? wrong. they bring it back down the field. geno smith, tremendous. jets win 30-28. they are one game out of first place in the a.f.c. east when everyone said this is probably one of the worst teams in football. not this year, not with this team. congratulations to rex ryan and company. atlanta the shocker right now. >>steve: what was the telemarketer selling last night? >>brian: i don't know. you hear the pause before they talk. i said wait a second, this is a telemarketer. all of a sudden she says are you brian kilmeade? i go are you trying to sell me something? yes. you call me at 10:15.

i was songy. >>steve: you've got to stay on the line and say put me on the do not call list. >>brian: then i look up and the jets are in the fight of their life. >>steve: all right. 18 minutes before the top of the hour. never worry about shattering your smart phone. up next, the new phones that bend and don't break. >>elisabeth: with both republicans and democrats refusing to bend, is there any legal route the president can take to end the government shutdown? the judge on the case next. >>brian: wait, there's so many people coming through that door. ♪ ♪

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iphone. wal-mart is hopping on board with similar discounts. take a look at what's coming around the bend. l.g. making the world's first flexible smart phone. the company will unveil the new product next month. bendable. >>brian: the shutdown countdown is underway on capitol hill entering day eight. at the forefront of the debate, obamacare and our nation's debt. >>steve: is it legal to shut down the government over obamacare? >>elisabeth: fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano is here with more on that. good morning. >> the republicans in my view are on to something because the constitution contemplates a two-step process for anything to become law. first the law is enacted. the house votes, the senate votes, the president signs it. then they have to pay for it. the constitution specifically provides for that second step of having to pay for it. that enables a congress today to decide they don't want to pay for something that a congress enacted ten

years ago or five years ago or even one year ago, because they don't have the money for it. >>steve: how often do they do that, where they defund a program? >> they don't do it very often but they have the authority to do it and the constitution specifically has that second step in there so that they'll be able to do that. so when the democrats and the president are saying it's the law of the land, you have to pay for it, that's nonsense. the constitution says they don't have to pay for anything they don't want. they can put it on a shelf for a year. as senator ted cruz has suggested. they can deep six it for a longer period of time, as many republicans in the house have said. or they can find the money to pay for it. but the choice is theirs. they're not obliged to do anything they don't have the money for. >>elisabeth: we're looking at $17 trillion to creditors. what about the debt ceiling? >> that's another issue that's going to be coming up next week. the government collects $2.5 trillion in revenue. it spend $3.7 trillion. where does the $1.2 trillion come from?

they borrow it. if they don't borrow it, the president will have to figure out how to run the executive branch of the government on less money than he's accustomed to. do you think he's going to make it easy for us or do you think he will make the rest of us miserable by shutting down the things we want and need and keeping open the things that we don't want and don't need? >>brian: by taking the daily revenue in, weekly revenue in, he can sustain the government and still pay the interest on the debt? >> the interest on the debt is automatically being paid. transfer payments like medicare, medicaid, social security is automatically being paid. and the defense department is automatically being paid. this debate, with the budget and the debate next week with borrowing more money is over discretionary items that we don't really need as a country. not the mainstay staples that everybody relies upon. >>steve: the republicans do have law on their side should they choose to defend. will the other house -- should they choose to defund. will the other house and

the white house go with it? >> no. next week will require both to agree. if the house says we're not going to borrow any more money, they're not going to. >>brian: eight days in the shutdown but nine days before we hit the debt limit. 11 minutes before the top of the hour. what happens when kids take adult hits on the football field? a look inside the brain so parents can see exactly what's at risk. >>steve: the real story behind the government's gun-running scandal about to be exposed but not if the administration gets their way. ♪ ♪

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>> brian: cover-up continues around operation fast and furious, the botched government sting operation that left an american border patrol agent dead and thousands more -- hundreds more dead in mexico. now atf agent john doddson is fighting the agency for permission to write a book exposing the truth behind the operation and it's not the government's first crack at a cover-up. our next guest knows firsthand the problems he's going to have writing it. joining us is fox news contributor and author of "fast and furious, barak obama's ugliest scandal and shameless cover-up," katie. this guy wants to do what you did. why is he having hard time? >> because the department of justice, which is in control of atf supervisors have denied an outside work request from john doddson. to give background on who he is, he's the first whistle blower to come forward publicly on camera to talk about what was going on during operation toss and furious back in 2011 after brian

terry, border patrol agent, was killed. now, the agency is saying that in this letter that i have here, this three-page letter, they're saying that the publication of this manuscript would hurt morale in atf and lead to bad relationships with the f.b.i. and dea. but the problem with that is that morale with the atf is already at an all-time low. a survey shows that they have an honesty and integrity problem. this isn't about not wanting john doddson to speak out because he's still part of the agency. it's about the same agencies still continuing the cover-up and not wanting sunlight to shine on potentially criminal and incompetent behavior inside the agency from a firsthand account from john doddson. >> brian: they know if he writes this book, it's no longer going to be able to bury it because he's on the inside. the official atf response is similar to what you said. the subject is prohibited from

writing about the issue arising from his or her duties, while still acting in the special agent capacity. so if he wants to write the book, veal to quit. >> he'll have to quit. but the problem with this is that the atf is being inconsistent. i asked them for that statement. they came back with that. but there was nothing in the denial letter that stated anything about compensation or profiting. the letter specifically stated they didn't want him to publish this book, which is already written, by the way. they've seen the manuscript. they know what he's going to say. they don't want it published because it will hurt morale. it has nothing it do with compensation and atf didn't ask him if he was being compensated, not to mention i reached out to the brian terry family to see how they feel about this. they want it published and they've also said if atf has nothing to hide, why not let john doddson publish the book? >> brian: thanks so much. thanks for doing the research and we'll see if the book comes out while he's still active. coming up on this show with two hours remaining, a bartend

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>> this is rick springfield and you're watching "fox & friends." >> brian: he's got a frequent guest card, doesn't he? >> steve: he does. elisabeth, you're new to the program, so you don't realize this. growing up, brian kilmeade's wife, dawn, had a great affection for rick springfield. >> brian: right. it's true. and he was on "general hospital," as well as a singer. and dawn was able to get in the front row with two of her friends and see him in concert. he was very good. >> elisabeth: that's awesome. >> brian: also he actually became a doctor and he operates on people at night. >> steve: illegally. >> brian: right. he's not very good. it's true. rick springfield, dr. rick. >> steve: and he's a very nice guy. >> elisabeth: he's got a big fan base. >> steve: thank you for joining us. over the weekend our military had two raids. one they got the guy. the other, they didn't. we're going to start with the navy seal raid on -- they were trying to grab that al-shabab

warlord. we now know they had great intel. they had one of the fast boats get up to the compounds in somalia. the guys got out. they got right up to the compound and then a single fighter came out and he was acting real cool and the fighter was smoking a cigarette. navy seals figured they didn't see us. he goes back into the compound, grabs an ak 47, comes out, starts shooting. then the whole town convenes. >> brian: they said, here we go again. they spotted something on the inside of the house that made them stop. >> elisabeth: they saw children. and they said, you know what? we're out of here. this is not worth it. i think a lot of people thought that was -- it is an incredible act of honor for life, especially the little ones. we actually talked to colonel oliver north a little while ago and he actually -- i thought, correct me if i am wrong -- did he infer that perhaps the intel

did not indicate -- >> brian: he thinks we did not have good people on the ground that would indicate kids were there. but i will say this -- this is something to keep in mind. nobody wants children hurt. however, this is the guy that put a group together to take down a kenyan shopping mall in an upper class shopping mall with kids that were tortured before they were killed. so if this guy's next operation kills children of ours or kills innocent children in a neighboring country that happened to not be islamic extremist, did we make the right decision? because we've taken out terrorists and obliterated places and there might have been kids in there. but czar coo wee has been killing our guys, so we have to kill him before he strikes again. >> steve: the navy seals made the determination, they had good intel. they knew exactly what room and they knew what room he was going to be in. they saw the guy and the kids and apparently the fire fight was so hot, they just said, we're going to have to leave. the navy seals themselves are

amazed that nobody -- none of the navy seals were actually injured or killed. >> brian: they took a lot of fire for a long time in their world before they left. the other one, let's talk about what happened in libya. it turns out we went into libya without asking permission. we went in there and grab al libby and it seems to be there were arabic speaking people with our guys that helped capture him, capture him and bring him onto a ship that we know it's the uss san antonio, where we understand he's being interrogated at this hour. >> elisabeth: sure. and there was a $5 million bounty on this guy's head. so apparently someone also is going to try to cash in. so certainly success for us to get some intel out of this. we have exclusive photos from oliver north. >> brian: that's al libby what he looks like today in the car. >> steve: that was moments before the team grabbed him.

>> elisabeth: exactly. the bottom right photo is what they assumed he would look like, correct? >> brian: yep. the top one is what he did look like. so he's captured. he, according to general mccraven, he could be kept on that ship in international waters and interrogated as long as we want because this guy is an enemy combatant. however, he could be in new york city in a couple of days, which just kills me because we could be getting valuable intelligence from him that could save more american lives or allies' lives. >> steve: this administration refuses to send him to gitmo, even though gitmo is absolutely wide open for business. for all the people who complained about when george bush was president of the united states when they would grab a high value target like this and what would they do? take him to some other nation to one of those secret spots and interrogate him for a week or two or longer. what's the difference between doing that and taking him to a ship -- in this case, the uss san antonio -- keeping him there

for a few weeks, and the high value interrogators are there. what's the difference? >> brian: a lot of times, the egyptians in saudi arabia would do the asking. imagine what he knows about the iranian government and their complicity with al-qaeda. >> elisabeth: i'd be spinning that boat a few million times. >> steve: he's on the slow boat to new york city. we'll keep you updated on that because it's time for headlines with the lady in red. >> good morning to you. remember that big debate we had in our country about rendition and a movie came out about that? >> steve: there was outrage then. no outrage now. >> yeah. thank you so much. 6 minutes after the hour. new developments in the stabbing death of a soldier in washington state. three more soldiers are now under arrest this morning and are expected in court later today. kevin guykey was walking down

the highway with friends when a car carrying five men pulled over. the group then exchanged some sort of words. police say jeremiah hill later confessed to stabbing guykey while giving him a bear hug. >> you were a traitor. you betrayed your country. at some point, you served your country and now you killed a man that was doing the same. >> police are no longer investigating this as a hate crime, but we'll keep you posted on any updates. bombshell new details with the attack on a man that took place in front of his wife and his toddler daughter. sources say that the off-duty undercover cop that we told you about yesterday who told investigators that he was not involved in the attack lied. police reportedly have new video showing the seven-year police veteran pounding on the range rover. that cop has been placed on modified duty and he was asked to turn in his gun and his badge.

we are just ten days from the deadline on the debt ceiling and brand-new fox news polls reveal where america stands on this issue. 62% say that the ceiling should be raised only after major spending cuts are made. 27% say it would be wreckless not to raise it no matter what. in the meantime, house republicans say they are still willing to negotiate. >> reality is most americans don't care about politicians bickering. they're look for people to solve the problems. millions of americans are losing their jobs, being forced into part-time work or seeing skyrocketing health insurance premiums and are losing their health insurance and the democrats, their answer is, they will not talk. they will not negotiate. >> the senate slimmed down now on day 8. a capitol hill bartender has a unique pricing menu. furloughed government workers have to pay two bucks for a beer. members of congress, $25 each

beer. if the president were to walk in and ask for a beer, he'd be charged $702. so why is that? the bartender says that his cost for the obamacare penalty, plus two bucks for the beer. he's got a sense of humor. >> steve: the president is not going to walk into that bar. >> i don't think so. >> elisabeth: i would include the tip. >> steve: thank you very much. >> brian: you might be for obamacare or against obamacare, but one thing is clear, it's very hard to get obamacare because of the glitches in the system. not my words. even the administration and the president said hey, guys, i know it's tough. just don't quit. continue to try to sign up. so the "wall street journal" commissioned an information technology series of experts and said do me a favor. tell me what we want wrong here. the web site they said was sloppily put together with sloppy software foundation. it was hastily constructed. it was going to be unable to withstand this type of demand. this was done by media temple, inc. >> steve: apparently they had

code that served no purpose. they had web efficiency techniques were not used. it only allowed for a trickle. they say that officials are now worried they may have to notify some applicants, yeah, we ok'd you. but you are not eligible for it. so the administration keeps calling it glitches. not a glitch. it's complete computer catastrophe. the thing does not work despite hundreds of millions of dollars we spent on it and the three years they had to plan for it. >> elisabeth: it's only your money and your health. by the way, i got this letter and i'm sure -- i know a bunch of these are going around to those who have coverage. it's a letter from one of our doctors whom i love and basically is explaining why they are no longer accepting private insurance. and he said, many physicians like him, he's not opting for this, but many remain in the business this year are going to have to make some changes by drastically increasing the number of patients that they see each day to no -- they may have

people coming for no more than five minutes to turn it around, selling their practices to hospitals, guaranteeing salary ies, actually result in the complete loss of control of the business for their employees. they may actually have to have patients pay an annual fee of $250, plus fees. you walk in and you have charges for a flu shot and fever and charges for 15 minutes. offices are terminating staff, longer waits are happening. so you get this letter from your physician that you love and you've been promised we can keep your physician. but they're now opting to look at a benefit and asking people to check out their own benefit program to make sure they have out of network ability. >> brian: so you can go out of network and get reimbursed perhaps. >> elisabeth: perhaps. >> steve: but you can keep your doctor, but it's going to cost you out of your own pocket. >> elisabeth: right. so this whole marketplace of freedom is really not. you have your doctor that you

love and i know interestingly enough, i heard from my friends that pediatricians are taking the biggest hits. they are the ones that are now being really stripped of their great patients because they can't pay for the insurance. what's happening is insurance companies for a long time anticipating obamacare have actually been losing a ton of claims. so the cost of finding the claims, refiling is killing physicians. so now they can't opt into the system. >> steve: there are so many people whose doctors don't take any insurance. i would say half of our doctors, we have to pay them cash. unfortunately, black market payments, essentially that's what it is. you got to pay out of your own pocket. that's not what we signed up for. have you received a similar letter to the hasselbeck's? e-mail us and we will share them coming up. >> brian: i just love one of the security questions with the obamacare. what is your mom's maiden name, one of the questions is, what is

your radio station? what does that even mean? which one now or what do i own? >> elisabeth: listening to kilmeade. >> brian: of course. and everyone writes that. so that means there is no security. >> steve: 13 now after the top of the hour. >> elisabeth: coming up, a thief picks the wrong clerk to rob. he quickly finds out his gun is no match for a machete. what happens next? caught on camera. >> steve: the senate shutdown entering day eight. what would governor bobby jindal do? gee, i wish he was here in the studio. >> brian: nice to see you. >> steve: he's next up in alaska, we find the best, sweetest crab for red lobster

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>> elisabeth: welcome back. today in the age of the

government shutdown and neither side is budging. what would bobby jindal do? >> steve: good morning to you. how happy are you you're not a member of congress today? >> i was there for three years. i have no desire to go back. all the focus is on the debt ceiling. it's on the crisis of the day. we were in the same crisis two years ago. the real crisis is not the debt ceiling. it's the debt. it's the fact that when the president was a senator, he complained we were near $9 trillion in debt. >> steve: unpatriotic. >> now we're nearly $17 trillion of debt. the reality is they keep kicking the can down the road. nothing will get solved. republican governors across the country were required to balance our budgets. we're doing it without raising taxes, growing the private sector economy. without raising taxes. we're not seeing real leadership out of the white house. he was elected to confront the big challenges of the day. he's not doing that. >> brian: governor, you can't do it in september. you can't do it in september and say we're in a deadline you have to go past something or not pass something or obamacare is here. you got to be working that in the spring.

do you think there is enough republicans to work with the president to get something done? >> if the president will show leadership. the last time we had a big policy change, one of the last times under president clinton, we had welfare reform. you had a republican congress, the president vetoed it twice. he didn't like it, but he found common ground. this president is his way or the highway. he says i'm not going to change anything. where is his leadership? he has not presented one budget which spends the amount of money we take it. he never pretends to balance the budget. i'm not even saying pay back the accumulated $17 trillion. i'm just saying pick one year where you say we're not going to spend more than we take it. every american family has to do that. every governor is doing that. >> elisabeth: you're right. that's something that everyone is asked to do, yet we're not seeing leaders who are doing it. do you think we'll hit october 17 without resolution? >> nobody wants to seat government unable to pay its bills or unable to pay its debt.

this is why we need leadership. the reality is you see conservative principles being applied across the country. one of the things, we've got 30 republican governors. one thing we've said is we want to take our brand back from washington, d.c there is so much dysfunction in washington, d.c when you public at school choice, public pension reform, look at cutting government spending, it's happening in state capitols. not washington, d.c. >> steve: let's combine the state capitols with washington, d.c. because the department of justice is taking you to court over it seems like better schools for minority students. >> this is the most ridiculous lawsuit. eric holder, the president obama's administration, has taken us to federal court. we've got a scholarship program that allows the dollars to follow the students. 100% low income and 100% from c, d, or f failing schools. the parents get to choose. they cited six kids in st. maarten parrish would be in an f school. others would be in a d school.

>> steve: so the kids can move around? >> that's right. let the parents choose so their kids can go to better schools. they want us to go to a federal judge for over 1,000 kids get permission. the irony is president obama or eric holder wouldn't send their kids to failing schools. they shouldn't force these parents to send their kids to these schools. >> brian: let's talk about what also your new initiative launched by your group, republican governor association. >> american comeback story. we've got 30 great republican governors. unemployment lower in states run by governors. they're applying conservative principles. voters across the country want to see conservative outcomes. we're seeing it in state capitols. we've got a great story to tell. we're running ads to tell people conservative principles work. >> steve: governor, thank you very much for joining us live. >> elisabeth: thank you. >> brian: good to see you. >> always great to see you. >> brian: what happens when kids

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>> steve: what do you say we do news by the numbers? first, 326. that's how many people in one of the bluest states in the country have enrolled successfully in obamacare. 326. maryland claiming there were no technical problems. next, $3.7 million. that's how much it will cost to clean up the contaminated building that housed the failed green company, abound solar. they went bankrupt in 2012 after getting $70 million of our taxpayer dollars. finally, 5 million bucks.

that's how much the state department gave to a crystal stemware company to provide custom barware for american embassies around the world. the deal kicked in the night of the government shutdown. $5 million. elisabeth, over to you. >> elisabeth: thanks, steve. when it comes to sports, kids can play rough. each year, 25,000 children and teens visit the e.r. for concussions related to football. what exactly happens to a child's brain when a concussion occurs? joining us is a neurologist. thanks for being here. >> my pleasure. >> elisabeth: huge topic. we need your expertise. you're going to explain to us what actually happens when the brain experiences a concussion. correct? >> correct. >> elisabeth: so we have an animation we're going to go through, which is fantastic 'cause i've never seen this. if you could see this, going to start coming up. when a person gets hit hard enough in the head.

>> you have your direct impact. you got to remember, the brain is floating in water. so there is the direct hit and then actually the brain will ricochet and be forced on the opposite side will hit the brain. so the brain is literally bouncing against the skull. >> elisabeth: you receive the hit, it ricochets. then depending on the strength of the hit, what happens then? >> a lot of things can happen. a concussion can be very mild. it can be quite severe where there is injury to the blood vessels and there is bleeding. more swelling could take place. you can have swelling that takes place. you have to remember the brain is in a limited space. so if there is swelling, there is very little room for that to be accommodated. direct injury and also the secondary effects of a concussion. >> elisabeth: so you also want to show us a normal brain versus a concussion brain so we can get an idea of what happens. >> in this particular study, which is done with special mri's, you can see the deep structures or the connections, what we call the axions, wires in the brain can be injured or

disrupted. the outside of the brain may look fine, but the way the brain talks to itself, the connections might be interrupted. >> elisabeth: would a normal checkup show this? >> no. you would never be able to see it on a normal mri. >> elisabeth: when we talk about young players getting hit versus an adult, we're hearing young players taking adult size hits on their brains, what's the difference there and how does it impact a kid? >> in one hand, younger patients do very well in terms of recovery from all kinds of injuries. myself as a stroke specialist, young patients always do well. however, kids are more fearless. i think they're more apt to jump in. there is also a push for kids to be tough. you got to get back in the game. there is a lot of pressure to keep performing even though the patient might be impaired in many different ways than what would be obvious. >> elisabeth: the nfl is sustaining hits over time. so we have the statistics coming in aren't great. we've got discussions going on between the league and players. is it the amount of hits that occur over a period of time or is it the impact? >> this is a very important

point. what's concerning to us is recurrent head injuries, repeated head injuries can cause permanent damage to the brain and give a picture that resembles alzheimer's disease. >> elisabeth: this right here, this is the brain over time. correct? >> right. this particular brain slice obviously is showing the brown areas in the area on the side of the brain where memory is located. so you can see there could be a selective injury to those parts of the brain where a protein accumulates. when we look at patients with alzheimer's disease, they have the identical type of picture when you look at it under a microscope. >> elisabeth: there is a link -- the end game? >> correct. this is people getting repeated injuries, hockey players, football players. if you don't have a helmet, soccer, for example. that's a serious source of head injuries. >> elisabeth: you say what are tips for parents and coaches? >> the problem is, nobody is trained properly to recognize the effects of concussion. it could be subtle.

poor balance. the patient is the worst person to ask. we need people who know objective signs. >> elisabeth: you say no screen time is essential for healing. right? post injury, is that right? >> if you take kid out of a game, you got to make sure he goes home and rest. if your child is on the computer, using their cell phone, we don't consider that taking a break. the brain needs a rest just like if you had a physical injury, you wouldn't want to use your arm and leg if you broke it. if your brain is injured, you need time off. you need to rest the brain. >> elisabeth: thank you. certainly appreciate that. coming up, america's truckers are planning their own shutdown for washington and it's going to cause a three-day traffic nightmare? what are they proceed toasting? stick around. plus, you know him from "dancing with the stars." have you heard his amazing story of becoming a u.s. citizen? it brought him to tears and he's up next [ woman #1 ] why do i cook?

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with hard baseballs, fully inflated footballs and soccer balls, let alone lacrosse balls. >> elisabeth: no cart wheeling. >> steve: because apparently you know those hard balls, if they hit a kid in the face, they might get hurt. so we asked you what you thought about this and adam asks, did they ban stairs? hard candy and all physical activity because all have the potential to harm you. >> brian: there is a fear that it's going to lead to other schools in other counties around the country. >> elisabeth: that's right. >> brian: there is a liability. >> elisabeth: sure. the base of all this, brian said, we can't wrap our kids in bubble wrap. some injuries are normal and kids learn from them. >> brian: but it would be fun to pop them. right. it's addicting. >> elisabeth: you can't stop. >> brian: keep coming in. are you worried our kids are going to grow up unscraped? they're going to have no chafing. they're going to have no dry

patches. they're going to have no bruises. >> steve: because in this particular scenario, they can play ball with nerf ball. >> elisabeth: is this a sponsored event? >> brian: i think so. these nerf scientists are behind this study. >> steve: the other thing is if you don't go out for recess, you're going to get fat. we know childhood obesity is linked to -- >> elisabeth: then they'll ban food. >> steve: news time. >> elisabeth: then what? >> steve: and then what? >> we got some headlines. angry truckers headed to washington, d.c. as part of a three-day protest called the truckers ride for the constitution. funny, i don't remember that in the constitution. but anyway, it's expected to tie up three lanes of traffic along i-495 around the nation's capitol with trucks driving at 55 miles per hour. many say they're mad about the government shutdown, the debt ceiling, and they say they should be paid more money. as many as 3,000 truckers are

expected to participate. malibu high school students and staff returning to campus yesterday for the first time since learning that some classrooms are being tested for a possible contamination of some sort. three teachers who work in the same building have recently been diagnosed with thyroid cancer. others have reported skin rashes and hair loss. the teachers say that recent construction and moldy classrooms are to blame. >> whatsoever, if there were contaminants, we wouldn't have teachessers or staff in there. >> now more testing is being done. less than one week after saving a dog from being put down, a mom says this dog returns the favor and saves her son's life. the dog is named tater tot and he sensed something was wrong with her son in the middle of the night. he started licking and jumping on the four-year-old boy and when he wouldn't wake up, his mother heard some noise and she went in to check on her son and discovered that he was barely breathing. she rushed her son to the e.r.

and found out his blood sugar level was dangerously low. >> one of those moms, sitting there, telling how i lost my son. >> elisabeth: doctors say that because the boy's blood sugar level was so low, he may have been producing keough tones and that's what the dog picked up. the mom plans to foster the dog until she can find him a home, but now decided to keep him. >> give him your wallet. >> what for? >> he's got a knife. [ laughter ] >> he's got a knife. >> elisabeth: going old school with that. it's like a scene right out of crock deal dundee. a masked robber held a clerk at gun points, demanded money and fired off a shot. that's when the clerk pulled out this, a machete and chased the

criminal out of the store and it worked. surveillance video showing the robber and his buddy running scared. wouldn't you be scared, too? those are your headlines. let's head over to maria to find out about the weather. >> good morning. if you head out here later on today, you'll need a sweater because it is a very chilly morning in new york city. we're talking a current temperature at 58 degrees. there is a little bit of a breeze, so it does feel cooler than that. otherwise across the southeast, where it's warmer, we have showers and storms forecast across parts of the carolinas, sections of florida and even southeastern parts of the state of georgia. this is forecast to go up the coast. so we are going to be seeing stormy weather with areas of heavy rain and also some gusty winds. so keep that in mind. you'll need the umbrella again tomorrow in washington, d.c high temperatures across the center of the country on the warm side. upper 70s in minneapolis. in areas like kansas city and down into parts of texas, temperatures much warmer than they are in new york city, into the 80s.

now i'll creep on over here to elisabeth. we have a special guest with us today. we're so glad you're here. you are working with for warriors for breast cancer. i know carnahan in your family. >> probably in every family now adays. we can't ignore it. i'm sure you guys have siblings that have cancer. my father died of cancer. he was in his early 40s. >> elisabeth: 18 were you? >> i was 18. my sister-in-law, she survived. she had cancer in one breast and 3 1/2 years later, the other one. i had dinner with her two days ago. >> elisabeth: she was 30 when she had breast cancer. >> yeah. shy of 30. 29 years old. >> elisabeth: wow. >> with the ford motor company, this is their 19th year they're participating for breast cancer awareness. so far they raised 120 million. incredible. you're going to help contribute to that today, right?

you brought a truck, cupcakes and shirts. >> yeah. it was the first time i see the truck. i'm like wow. this is intense. but i'm saying we're selling the shirt. people can come and we have free cupcakes and we're moving around the city of new york. >> elisabeth: you won't be missed. >> it's funny. the first time i see it, it was like a shock this morning. i'm like whoa, my god. >> elisabeth: and they have some french writing on here. >> yes, it means united with love. 100% of the proceeds goes to the research of cancer. >> elisabeth: i love that the guys are wearing it because -- >> it is cool, right? >> elisabeth: when a woman is facing it, there is a guy right there, be it a father or brother or friend. >> we're human beings. we should all be like that. >> what's the web site? >> fordcares.com.

a lot of people ask me on-line, where do i go? >> elisabeth: we care about your story. you've been in the states 15 years, born in france. tell us a little bit about how you came. >> one day i decided to make the leap and as a child i always thought america was the place to be because there is nothing you can not do here. i heard and now i'm living proof. i came here, i didn't speak a word of engl much. next thing you know, america, it's a place where people open their arms, whoever you are, races, whatever it is, you show them that you work hard and you can make this country a better place and you love that place with your heart. there is nothing that can stop you. that's what it is. that's what it's all about. >> you have been so successful and you are now -- you've been an actor and you're work now with the abc show? >> "switched at birth." >> elisabeth: that's right. >> i'm very honored to be part of this show.

internationally, they're making strides. people all over love the show now and it's important, again, minority, including the deaf communities for the first time in any show ever. we even had an entire asl show last year, last season. and people love it. i'm very proud to be part of the show. i can't waiting to back to work on the 21st of october. >> elisabeth: what an awesome work ethic you have and we love this cause and it's the universal language. we want to thank you for being here today. >> thank you for having me. >> elisabeth: safe travels to you. coming up, they supported obamacare. but now union members are trying to work out a deal to keep their plans the way they are. so with all the white house ups and downs, will you be forced to buy into that? then this was not the kind of smash these ladies were going for. beer clean-up in aisle 10. not 9.

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>> brian: some quick headlines now. then for all its data gathering, there is something the nsa cannot figure out, while its center is not working. melt downs in the past 13 months prevented the agency from using computers and delaying its opening by more than a year. talk about getting smashed. liquor store aisle comes crashing down. it's not clear what caused the shelf to give way. some blame chris chulo. steve? >> steve: look at all that liquor. meanwhile, while you are forced to buy obamacare for face a penalty, labor unions are angling for loopholes so they

can keep their cadillac health care plans. so will backdoor negotiations allow this to happen? let's talk to fox news contributor and author of "shadow bosses," mallory factor. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: so we've heard over the last couple of weeks, the more the unions, which were big supporters of the president and obamacare -- the more they see obamacare, the less they like it. >> like most things that government does, there is unintended consequences. they're all of a sudden recognizing number one, that their plans, cadillac plans only have waivers to 2018 and 2018 is going to come quick. even more than that, they're finding out that collective bargaining health care is important to it and they're not going to be that important anymore. >> steve: because if people get their health care through obamacare, they won't need to belong to a union! >> so they're getting a little

worried. they'll figure something out because remember, they got obama elected and he's not going to forget about them. >> steve: when you say they'll figure something out, is that code for there is going to be some sort of a back room deal? >> there is always back room deals when it comes to unions. union bosses, trumka, people like that, afl-cio, he was at the white house more than most of the cabinet was. >> steve: sure. the whole thing about the affordable care act is you would imagine that initially the unions would go, you know what? if there are 20 or 30 million more americans, we can get onto obamacare, maybe those would be potential members of our union. >> that's why they were for obamacare. they figured more people getting government money through obamacare, more government union employees. remember -- this is shocking -- every million new members, it's a billion dollars in dues annually for the union.

a billion dollars in dues. that's a lot of money for those union heads. >> steve: and you can understand why they would want to do that. it's in their own best interest. >> sure is. >> steve: let's talk about this, unions are trying to force a bill to get retroactive pay for the shutdown just like the federal workers. >> oh, that's going to happen. that's not even an issue. they're going to get it. >> steve: you think so? >> oh, yeah. i mean, they're working full time on this one and they're going to get it. >> steve: so they're going to wind -- >> patronage is not dead. chicago style patronage and it is not dead. the unions will get what they want. >> steve: we'll see. stand by for that. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> steve: meanwhile, coming up, a man taken from his house at gun point, but the whole thing could have been staged? the reason why he wanted to get away from his wife. details straight ahead. plus, cheryl casone has the five top companies hiring right now. get a pencil and a paper.

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>> brian: looking for a job? you know it's tough out there. we'll make it ease injury. cheryl casone has woken up, it took her a while. she's got five top companies hiring across the country and you're fired up about this. >> i'm a morning person! what do you mean waking up. >> brian: i apologize. for example, you found one company called sedgwick. what do they do? >> it's claims processing. they process disability claims, family leave claims, things like

that. so they actually help businesses to get through claims. 531 jobs open. entry level positions, 20 to $50,000. these are pretty decent salaries for entry level positions. supervisors can make 32 to 87,000. and managers can make up to 100 grand. 531 jobs. they need to fill them by the end of the year. >> brian: wow. net ap. they provide products and services? >> this is big data. this is actually one of my investment themes on the business network. anything big data, cloud related, cloud computing. that's what they do. they help companies store all their data, manage it, protect it from piracy. they need engineers, people that can do sales, customer service, marketing. but also they have finance jobs, i.t. jobs, hr jobs available. it's not justech jobs on this one. there is 500-plus right now and especially hiring in sunny veil, california, wichita. >> brian: quicken loans?

>> 250 jobs open right now. they also need in detroit, 170 interns for the fall. i like this because this is a really good way to get real experience in an internship especially if you want to get into the banking industry. >> brian: they usually pay, right? >> sometimes the internships do. sometimes they don't. i don't know about quicken. the next one is health care. here we go again. this is rest care. restcare is basically they go into the home. it could be elderly folks. it could be people that are disabled or have intellectual disabilities. >> brian: so they have 3200 openings in 43 states. >> and canada and puerto rico. and they're going to be hiring this year. they need people to do entry level direct care, managers. they also need executives as well. health care is a constant, constant theme. >> brian: who is there to handle your payroll? paycheck. >> yeah. this is pretty simple. they are actually looking for employees as well. they've got 700 jobs open right now. all divisions, all across the country. sales, customer service, i.t.

what they do is basically handle the payroll for small and medium businesses. you're seeing the themes, right? technology, health care. i'm not seeing a lot of manufacturing jobs. but i'm looking. i'm getting a lot of e-mails about work at home opportunities. i'm looking. give me a couple of weeks. there is a few out there. >> brian: there is always amway. which is good. >> right. >> brian: so if people get a job through you, you want to know about it, where do they go? >> fn jobhunt at fox news.com f. you're missing information, i'll send it to you. it's also at casoneexchange.com. it has the link so you can directly apply there. >> brian: thank you. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> brian: straight ahead, world war ii vet high school to fight to visit their memorial. but no barricades at the national mall for today's pro-immigration rally. laura ingraham noticed.

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>> brian: we'll find out. "fox & friends" final hour, unless you know something different, starts now. >> hi, this is dolly parton and you're watching "fox & friends." >> steve: we've got dolly's pal, kenny rogers in the green room right now. he's going to do some singing this hour. >> elisabeth: i'm so excited. >> steve: he's touring and he is a legend and we're delighted to bring that to you today. just as we are delighted to bring you laura ingraham who joins us once a week from our nation's capitol. hello, laura. >> hey, guys. how are you? >> steve: doing okay. >> brian: why is it still going on? you were here. you're supposed to have ended this. day eight of the lockdown. >> remember last week i think i was with you guys and i said, it's going to be the countdown to cave-in. i think i spoke too soon of the boehner is holding firm for at least right now. >> steve: he is holding firm. it's interesting, there is an item in politico right now that

it says that the headline is, where is joe biden? what it says is that the president met privately with harry reid talking about the debt limit a while back and harry reid said okay, one condition, no joe biden because apparently a lot of the democrats didn't like any of the deals that the president did through the vice president. >> i have a feeling that even joe biden might have not said the thing that harry reid said last week about the kids with cancer. why would we do that? help those kids with cancer. look, i think what we know now is that boehner is dug in for the time being. >> steve: yep. >> the closer we got to the debt ceiling and the more wall street shows signs of jitters, which is what you need to look for, because if we see a big nose dive in the stock market, that's when you'll see people's resolve start to buckle a little bit. i think boehner is looking for anything from obama. that's why we have to have a conversation.

we have to talk. it's not you. it's me. we have to sit down and talk about it. i think boehner wants something to go back to more conservative members of the house with so they can avert what would be perhaps a clamitous thing for the country. i sense people don't care that much about the shutdown, except as it affects veterans and people are like, wait a second. this sewn 17% of the u.s. government that's closed and a lot of these people are getting paid anyway. it's a sign that this thing has gotten too big, too out of control. we can't control the automatic spending that goes to these entitlements and i think more people are saying we got to rein this beast in. it's a total mess here. >> elisabeth: yeah. indeed. i think you're right. will this be an indication that we can get away with less in terms of government, right? >> yeah. i think that's right. i think the good thing is people are beginning to understand just how expansive the federal

government has become. again, just how much on auto pilot it is. congress controls the spending, well, not on the lion share of the budget. the overwhelming percent of the budget is automatically funded. so congress has a little bit of a role when it comes to the purse strings and it's trying to exercise it now and it's a pr war at this point between the administration and the republicans. >> steve: the extraordinary thing is, laura, is there there are a number of government -- every agency we said, okay, who is essential and nonessential? there are a number of federal agencies where zero employees are reporting for work. these are federal agencies. we've got a list of them. zero employees at work. yet the government is chugging along. the commission of fine arts, the council on homelessness, usda risk management agency, and the federal maritime commission, just to name four. yet, the government seems to be going along just fine. >> yeah. i used to work at the department of transportation eons ago.

so i was always wondering even when i worked there what the federal maritime commission did. you just got me some good info. apparently nothing. we talked about this before, like when you walk into these federal departments, i mean, it's not like there aren't good people working there. there are. but you just walk on floor after floor, cubicle after cubicle and you really start wondering, okay. what do we need 5,000 people at the department of education for? as our educational standards, we found out a study seemed to not be producing the types of people who can compete in the global economy. what do we get and what bang for our buck are we gotting? it turns out that the tea party might have put the spotlight on this just at the right time. >> brian: in your opinion, with the "washington post," abc poll comes out, 73% of americans disapprove of the way republicans are handling this. 61% of americans disapproving of the way the democrats handling it in congress, let alone the president's approval rating,

which has ticked up four points this week. when you say we're waiting for wall street to react, who feels the pressure most if wall street starts cratering, if china starts panicking? >> i think the republicans right now are going to feel it more. there is no doubt about it. but the president doesn't get off the hook here either. i think all these polls are bad and again, if john boehner just comes out today and says, you know, even though the president has just basically last week humiliated knee in that meeting when reid came out and trashed boehner right afterward, i just want to sit down and -- we're doing a clean cr. is that really going to help the republicans? is there going to be a poll the next day that shows that overwhelming support for the republican party? i don't think so. >> brian: how it ends matters. >> yeah. i think how it ends matters. but boehner right now looks like the guy who wants to sit down and work this out. i think the more that he stays on that message and if he can get the administration to move on one or two issues to avoid a default, maybe it's a month

delay, maybe that's how it works, i think the longer this thing goes on with the shutdown, it actually might work a little bit more to the republican favor, given what we're finding out about illegal immigrants doing rallies on the mall, yet veterans got the run around for a long time. i think this doesn't wear well with people. i'm not sure it's going to ultimately be so bad for republicans if they're able to hold firm now. >> steve: in particular, and we've got a brand-new fox news poll that just came out, it goes to the very question that we're considering and that is the debt limit. should it be raised? 62% say yes, but only after major cuts. 27% say yes, it should be raised. it would be reckless not to. even though so many people are getting free stuff, they realize at some point the music stops and the gravy train dries up. >> brian: and one chair is missing. >> this is an ugly game of musical chairs. the poll that fox released is

confirmed by a poll, i think it was bloomberg reported it last week or the week before. that's really quite stunning n a country where republicans have been on their heels for a few years, at least since the mid terms in 2010, that's quite something. and i think that's the kind of stuff that boehner is holding on to, thinking if i can keep my narrative clean, if i can hold together michael graham and peter king and these pennsylvania congressmen who are getting ancy, if i can hold them together and the president ends up looking like the bad one, we might be okay through this and the government actually might ultimately end up seeing cuts, which is what republicans conservatives are supposed to be all about. we're supposed to be shrinking it, not expanding it willie nilly every six months. >> elisabeth: let's go back to that national mall immigration rally today. 30 members of congress supposed to be showing up there. what are your thoughts on that? the vets couldn't get in there, they shut it down.

actually rejected at first and then did -- >> steve: here come the democrats. >> the interesting thing here is that with obamacare, the president and harry reid and so forth are always saying, this is the law of the land. obamacare is the law of the land! get over it! well, the last time i checked, the immigration and naturalization act is also the law of the land and we actually have borders. we have a country that is supposed to have some sovereign authority. and so the president has had no problem going around the law of the land when it comes to immigration and, in fact, celebrating this today. celebrating the dreamer, celebrating this move toward amnesty which is what they hope. so it doesn't surprise me at all that people who are either law breakers get an open door while the world war ii veterans la week had to have wire cutters and people pushing over barricades to get them access to that world war ii memorial. i mean, i think it leaves people with a bad taste in their mouth.

it's a sense of entitlement on behalf of people who are not supposed to be in this country. yet the people who deserve so much had to fight for access. it's appalling. >> steve: it is a stunning double standard. it's all political. even though it's not supposed to be. laura, thank you very much for joining us. you got to go do your radio show. we'll see you back next week. >> sounds great. >> brian: laura ingraham there. heather nauert here. >> good morning to you. ten minutes after the hour. and some headlines. new details on terror raids that were carried out by u.s. special operations in libya. fox news now confirming that al labory is being held in u.s. custody on the uss san antonio and could be in a new york courtroom by the end of this week. he was a confidante of osama bin laden and is believed to be one of the masterminds of the u.s. embassy attacks in kenya and tanzania in 1998 that left 12 americans dead. then in somalia, military

sources telling fox news that seal team six cut short its mission to capture a top al-shabab commander when they saw that there were children in that compound. the seals came under fire and then realized that they would not be able to nab their target. oops, i messed up. the first mate of the costa concordia ship says that is what the captain said to him right after he crashed the ship. as for the first mate, he admitted he was playing video games at the time. stunning revelations coming out of the trial of the captain who is charged with manslaughter. boy, imagine that. this guy apparently so afraid of his own wife that he staged his own kidnapping just to get out of the house. 34-year-old guy got two armed men to kidnap him from his home in texas just so he could go out drinking with his friends! while his wife was so scared, she called police. they launched a massive manhunt

for him and then when he came home the next day unharmed -- >> steve: the next day? >> yeah. cops were suspicious. the guy eventually confessed to the hoax, but not before police entwhistle sent out some helicopters looking for him. not well thought out on his part. >> steve: no kidding. >> mad cops, mad wife. >> brian: and a hangover. >> bad idea. don't try that, guys. >> steve: i'm sure dr. phil is watching right now. may be great to book for our show. >> brian: absolutely. >> steve: on this very busy tuesday. >> brian: coming up straight ahead, she posed for playboy before she taught a bunch of kids school. should that matter? we report. you decide. >> elisabeth: and you can't bring a bottle of water through airport security, but go ahead and pack your pot? what's up with that? that story next. ♪ ooh, homemade soup!

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>> steve: new this morning, police in new york city have arrested a fourth biker in this new york city road rage attack that saw a husband beat up in front of his wife and young daughter. this as the biker who sparked that conflict says he didn't do anything wrong. >> i didn't think i was doing anything wrong, just turning into another lane. i never had intentions to slowing down or cause any type of problem. my intention never was to make him stop. >> steve: really? but other bikers tell a different story. they wanted that father to pull over and say sorry for hitting one of their friends. >> the way he was driving, it

seemed as if he didn't realize what he was doing. he should have just apologized and stopped and said i'm sorry, you know, and we would have probably forgiven him. >> steve: yeah, how would he know that? shouldn't the bikers at least try to get their story straight before playing the victim card? fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr. is incensed by the story. >> good morning. it's a new paradigm in america, the victim should apologize. the man who was beaten to death on upper manhattan, he should get out and apologize to the folks who almost beat him to death and terrorized his family. >> steve: i've been reading more and more about this as you have. you sent me something last night, an urban dictionary called break check. apparently this was an instance of break check where people do what? >> mr. cruz says it's not a brake check. it means you're upset at the driver behind you and you're going to teach him a lesson. so you jam on your brakes. he says, he didn't see my go on. the truth is, on racing bikes, brake lights, taillights are often disengaged.

they're pulled out. so there are no brake lights. watch the video and you'll see. he slows down intentionally, in my view. i think it's obvious. then this other guy in an interview with fox five in new york, he says, apologize. it's quite incredible. the issue becomes, this a bias crime? is this a hate crime? was this family terrorized because of who they are in the city? we don't know. we don't know the statements that were made to them. we will hear it as the investigation goes forward, though, absolutely. >> steve: it's such an elaborate plan they had to slow a car down. these guys, this motorcycle club, if you will, blocked off people from getting onto the west side highway so they could have their fun with that car. >> they stopped them dead. this has captured the national imagination and our national fear. but the bigger question is how do we respond to people who are

trying to destroy the quiet enjoyment of our lives? and will we as a society allow people like that to take control of us without any punishment? even marlon brando in a movie, they looked at this particular issue about how a society responds when a group of people go nuts. look at this. >> look, harry, scraping on the tire. harry, aren't you going to do something about this? >> what do you expect? >> wait a minute. what do you want harry to do? arrest all these boys, all 30 or 40 of them? >> it's the principle of the thing! you let something like this go by and anything goes! >> steve: there you go. >> you let something like this go by and anything goes. a lot of people in new york, even people who don't drive are looking at this issue to say, how do we respond as a city and as a country? they want to see 30 or 40 people

arrested if, in fact, 30 or 40 people are involved in this incident. also the real bikers in america, the real motorcyclists in america want their reputation back because there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people who are legal, law abiding citizens and who do this for public purpose in a positive way. bad. this has got to stop. >> steve: it is bad. you're absolutely right. it has scared a lot of people. i go on the road twice a day. >> it's terrifying. >> steve: it is. thank you very much. >> good to see you. >> steve: up next, he boarded a plane alone without a ticket. now instead of taking responsibility, the tsa is blaming the kid. plus, ladies rise to the top of the ranks. we've got the tips you need to break the mold and stand out in the work force. that's coming up. it's not ladies night. it's ladies morning on "fox & friends."

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>> brian: no free ride here. this morning republican congressman mark sanford telling his staff to get back to work despite the government shutdown. the south carolina law maker says there is no reason to stay home since the house passed legislation guaranteeing all federal workers will get back pay. and the transportation safety administration could soon mellow out on airline passengers flying with pot. consideration comes now that 20 states have legalized medical marijuana and two legalized recreational use of the drug. now let's go to elisabeth and something else. >> elisabeth: no connection there at all. thanks, brian. at a glance, it looks like this is the best time to be a woman,

not only do females make up a majority of the work force, the majority of voters as well. why are women still struggling when it comes to the number of leadership roles they have? here to help women break the mold and lead the way is the author of a new book "women who don't wait in line." welcome our guest. good morning. >> good morning. >> elisabeth: i love the book. i think it's a great book for women in the workplace and your mission is incredible. you experienced in 2010 during your congressional run that women don't always play fair with women. correct? >> yeah. in 2010 i ran against a woman who was an incumbent and i got a lot of e-mails and letters from women who said, you shouldn't run against another woman. i think for me and my generation, we're used to competing with women. we're used to playing competitive sports with one another. in that case, i feel like it's progress to have two pro-choice women running against each other. >> elisabeth: sure. it's interesting, 19% of congress are women. would we be in the situation we're in right now in terms of a government shutdown that we're looking on october 17th if

more women were -- >> absolutely not. >> elisabeth: why? >> because i think having more diversity leads to better results. we see that in study after study after study. women are more collaborative. >> elisabeth: you mentioned ways to work together. your book outlines tips to help women rise to the top. the first one you say fail fast, fail hard. >> absolutely. i think women don't embrace failure in the same way we need to. i think if we don't fail, we won't try enough. for example, men will walk down the street and cat call at a woman and expect rejection and do it all over again. we're not used to getting rejected and we need to because we're not going to take risks if we're not. >> elisabeth: what about a brag bag? >> we have to learn to start talking about ourselves and promoting ourselves, whether that's on social media. we need to acknowledge we have accomplishments and bring that to the table. >> elisabeth: do you think we undercut what we do? >> absolutely. girls are taught to not be -- to not brag and not be bossy and not put themselves forward. >> elisabeth: okay. so be truthful braggers.

create a personable board of directors. what do you mean? >> each of us need a mission statement. where do we want to be in the next five years? we need to pick four or five people in our lives to help hold us accountable to that. >> elisabeth: you say hire women. if you are given a position, hire a woman. >> absolutely. if you have two qualified candidates and one is a man and one is a woman, hire the woman. 20 million of us make hiring decisions. we keep talking about the fact that we're stagnating, but we have the ability and the leadership to be able to change the numbers. let's do it. >> elisabeth: thank you for being here today. it's a great message. also i want to let everybody know you can check it out, you have a nonprofit. wonderful initiative for young women. coming up, billions in disability fraud exposed. it's so bad, the fund could run out of money in just 18 months. the man who discovered it all, senator tom coburn, up next. then, he thought he was being patriotic, decorating his school with american flags. but the school not amused. and the kid is suspended, believe it or not. now his dream of joining the air

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>> boehner said he'd stay by the phone all weekend waiting for the president, but he never called. [ laughter ] what do you mean stayed by the phone? what is this, 1965? the cell phone hasn't been invented in oh, let it please be him! oh, dear god, it must be him! [ laughter ] >> brian: he didn't call. a scathing new report reveals billions of your dollars are going to support people who are faking injuries and getting disability payments. "60 minutes" spoke to two attorneys who used to look at a top law firm, bender and bender. >> i call it a legal factory because that's all it is. i mean, they have figured out the system and they've made it into a huge national firm that makes millions of dollars a year on social security disability. business is booming because the economy was so bad. you had a lot of people who,

their unemployment ran out and this was the next step. >> elisabeth: so is there any way to stop this waste and fraud? we're going to ask the man who has been investigating it for three years now, joining us now, senator tom coburn. welcome, senator. >> good morning. >> elisabeth: you do think there is a way to stop this? it seems as though the government, in fact, would just want it to continue. right, if it helps unemployment stats? >> well, there is some truth to that. the obama administration and the former head of the social security administration said it was their goal to put people on disability. not to put them on accurately. and so we saw that during his tenure as they forced people to make quick, shoddy decisions and they made their payments for people inside social security bonuses based on how many cases they did rather than whether or not they did them right. the social security admits that at least 22% of the cases

decided are decided inappropriately. when we looked at hundreds of these, we found at least 25%. and then when i personally looked at the medical information on them, i would say 30 to 50% of them were decided inappropriately, when you take all the medical information and use the ama guidelines for disability. so we have a real problem and it's not just the problem of lost dollars for a trust fund that's about to run out of money. when you put somebody on disability, you take away their future because you limit them. for those that are cheating on the system now, what they're doing is they're collecting not a large amount of money, but they're collecting it every month and then they're working in the underground economy and not paying taxes. so we're not really helping people by putting people who are not disabled on disability. >> steve: absolutely. but there are a lot of people who are disabled and do need this and that's why -- in the "60 minutes" piece and i know your staff has been researching, there is seemingly unscrupulous

attorneys out there who -- we're about to play a sound bite from an attorney by the name of eric kahn, he testified before you, but not really. here he is. >> my lawyer sent a letter on october 7th explaining the reasons that i'm not going to testify today and pursuant to that letter, i respectfully assert my constitutional right not to testify here today, sir. >> steve: so this guy takes the fifth. in the "60 minutes" piece, what's disturbing is it looked like he had an awfully cozy relationship with one of the judges who determined how many people would actually get the benefit. okay. so that's going on right now. how do we fix it? >> well, first thing do you is do oversight like we're doing. you raise the level of interest. you start asking questions, and you create the impression that you're going to watch. and so by doing so, we've already made an impact on the approval rate on the disability

program. but congressional oversight is the reason this thing got in trouble in the first place. we didn't do any. and do some structural changes. i'd leave with you this one important point: it's people who are truly disabled need this program and when a third to 40% of the people that are getting it aren't truly disabled and when this trust fund runs out, the people who are truly disabled are the ones that are going to suffer the most. and so this isn't about the people who are disabled in this country, where there is no question about it. it's about we designed the system that incentivized attorneys to take advantage of it and overwork the alj's and the staff at social security system by not putting the proper amount of people there to handle the claims. >> brian: senator, finally, nobody has more respect on the hill either party when it comes to budgetary things than you. when we get to october 17 and 18 and don't raise the debt ceiling, do you believe america goes into default? >> no, not at all. default is not paying interest on the notes you have

outstanding or not redeeming bonds that are due. we have plenty of money. we've got over 80% of the money to run this government that's coming in every day. we can handle that. would we be slow in paying some of our other bills? you bet. but we're not about to default on our obligation, international obligations for our debt. >> steve: all right. tom coburn, senator from the great state of oklahoma. thank you very much for joining us this morning. >> you bet. >> steve: thank you very much for trying to get some oversight on this disability thing 'cause it is jaw dropping. >> brian: hopefully the president calls you. >> elisabeth: thank you. >> see you later. >> elisabeth: we're going to see somebody now. heather nauert for some headlines. >> good morning to you. got quite a story here for you this morning. some parents in texas are now outraged after they learned that one of the local high school teachers has a bit of a racy past. 21-year-old kristy nicole dehe's was playboy's co-ed of the month before she got a job teaching spanish at a school in dallas.

with the nude pictures out in the open for students and parents to see, parents want her fired. so far school leaders are not commenting. a nine-year-old boy slips past two levels of security at minneapolis airport. we told but this story the other day. he was able to board a flight to las vegas. but instead of taking responsibility, airport officials are placing the blame on the boy, saying he took advantage of the fact that he wasn't being watched. the boy who ran away from home slipped past security and also a ticket agent. blaming him. remember this little guy, jack hoffman? he was the boy with cancer who ran 69 yards and score add touchdown at the nebraska football game. >> listen to this crowd! as jack hoffman, young man, has really been adopted by this football team just scored a touchdown. >> how cute. see him right there. some good news to bring you this morning. after a year of chemotherapy,

his dad is now announcing his son's brain cancer is in remission. his touchdown went viral with 8 million views on youtube. but he still has a long way to go. high school student in minnesota suspended for a week for showing his patriotism. the student, bryce, he and some of his friends painted flags on windows, doors, they hung up streamers and put up small american flags all around the school. now the teen-ager says that suspension of his could hurt his chances of getting a scholarship with the u.s. air force. >> we just want to say we really do care about our country. a senior prank. it's not the crime of the century or anything. >> his friends were only suspended for two days. he got five days because school officials said he was the ring leader of the whole thing. he adds his punishment is worst than for someone who shows up to school drunk or on drugs. how about that? we wanted to know what you thought. sally wrote in and she said they wrote on the sky lights, doors,

and windows, which is what got them into trouble and they're still proud of their patriotism. >> steve: very good. we've got some others. shelly says, no, not at all. our country needs reality overhaul. get back to what made us a great nation and caring people. look right down there in the corner. shelly's facebook. thank you very much. >> that's right. >> steve: keep them coming. it's exactly 20 minutes before the top of the hour. and outside i see she's wearing a red coat. it's maria molina. >> yeah. it is very chilly. i had to put on a coat because i wasn't wearing one outside for my outside segment. let's go ahead and take a look at the weather conditions across the country because it looks like we're having a couple of glitches there with our graphics. there we go. i'm back on. actually i'm wearing my breast awareness scarf now. yea. let's take a look at the graphics that we do have because we actually have showers and storms in the forecast across parts of the southeast.

if you live across coastal parts of the carolinas, georgia and also across florida, we have the storms. they are forecast to come together into an area of low pressure and that storm will track up the coast and produce possibly beach erosion, areas of heavy rain and also very windy conditions. let's look at the forecast by late wednesday, we're looking at areas of heavy rain across parts of the mid-atlantic. temperature wise, chilly across northeast. feeling very fall like. highs in the 60s and 50s. temperatures across the center of the country, much warmer. 70s and 80s all the way down to texas. let's head back inside. >> steve: maria molina out on the street, thank you very much. >> brian: by the way, in case you went to bed earlier, the jets in a dramatic win over the falcons. >> elisabeth: that's true. >> brian: it is true. it's all based on fact. meanwhile, never worry about shattering your smart phone again. up next, the new phone that bends without breaking. cool. >> elisabeth: and he's been making hits for 60 years. ♪ you got to know when to hold

em ♪ ♪ know when to fold em ♪ know when to walk away ♪ and know when to run >> elisabeth: coming up, kenny rogers here to perform for us live. >> steve: good morning. >> elisabeth: i can't wait. good morning. >> good morning. ♪ you got to know when to hold em ♪ ♪ lyrics: 'take on me...'

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mountain dog. what impact is the government shutdown having on the global markets right now? investors say they are cautious as the u.s. heads towards a debt default and china has a strong warning. get your fiscal house in order, they say in chinese. >> steve: fox business reporter lauren simonetti is live to break it all down for us. >> good morning. i can't do the chinese for you, but i can do the interpretation and the wall street interpretation that everybody with investments should watch out for right now. we're in day eight of this government shutdown and we're nine days away from the potential debt default. everybody is worried, including china. largest holder of u.s. treasuries. they hold $1.3 trillion with a t. they are saying this comes from their vice finance minister, that the u.s. must prevent a debt default to insure the safety of chinese investments and the global economic recovery. then he adds, says the u.s. fully understands the lessons of history. what he's referring to is the summer of 2011, back in august

of 2011, the dow fell 5 1/2 percent in one week after standard and poors downgraded the u.s.'s perfect credit rating for the first time in history. so in nine days from now, if we can not pay our bills, social security doesn't go out, this would be catastrophic not just for the u.s. markets, but for the world markets at this point. so the u.s. is set to open relatively flat today, but since this government shutdown, the dow is down about one and a quarter percent. back to you. >> steve: thank you very much on the floor of the new york stock exchange. coming up on our floor, kenny rogers -- you're going to sing live, aren't you? first let's check in with bill hemmer for a preview of what happens when he starts sing at 9:00 o'clock. >> give him my best. wow. an american legend. in moments, house republicans meet on the hill. what's going to come of this meeting? how is obamacare working out for you one week old? karl rove has fascinating insight. the numbers that he has. why would a high school cause

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>> steve: we have loved him through the years. but he's not stopping. kenny rogers has a new album called "you can't make old friends" and he joins us live. >> how are you? >> elisabeth: good morning. >> steve: great. >> elisabeth: congratulations! kenny, i love it. >> i watch you every morning. it's nice to see you on the show. >> brian: the first thing you said, i'm glad you got a new set. >> well, yeah. i'm sick of the old one. [ laughter ] >> elisabeth: i have to say, my dad loves you. i love you. my kids love you. you span generations in terms of

your fans. what's your secret? >> i'm convinced that my audience falls into two categories now. people born since the '80s, whose parents forced them to listen to my music as child abuse. and people born bebefore the '60s that can no longer remember the '60s. [ laughter ] >> steve: we have a lot of your fans who watch. we asked for comments and tweets. sue tweets, kenny, what is your favorite song you ever recorded? >> it's funny, i think they kind of come in and out. right now i'm starting to do a thing i do with sheena easton called "we've got the night." that's fresh on my mind. "the gambler" was a career maker. and "islands in the stream" with dolly. >> steve: 30 years ago. >> brian: what are you going to sing now? >> a song from the new album called "america." it's not america. it's merica. >> brian: we can download it?

>> steve: ladies and gentlemen, kenny rogers! ♪ read like the drifter down the side ♪ ♪ white, white lightning ♪ blue like the color of hard workman ♪ ♪ a man that i know very well ♪ red like the flow from a coca-cola can ♪

♪ like white two doves ♪ blue like the mississippi river ♪ ♪ a land that i love, america ♪ new york city, san francisco ♪ colorado rockies ♪ in the land that i love, america ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ a land that i love, america ♪ ♪ new york city, san francisco ♪ colorado rockies ♪ i know when the sun goes down it will come back round again ♪ ♪ in the land that i love, america ♪ ♪ land that i love, america

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>> steve: tomorrow, dr. travis york will be joining us and he's giving us flu shots. kenny, you need to stick around. >> i had mine the other day. >> steve: where did you go? >> walgreen's. >> brian: i was behind him getting a flu shot. no one believes that story. anna kooiman will be outropes. that's for you, kenny. and dr. keith aemployee is here. he seems -- ablow is here. he seems pretty normal. >> where you did he tell that? >> i'm not sure. >> steve: turns out kenny is a big fan of "fox & friends." we appreciate that.

>> every day. every day. >> steve: the channel started 17 years ago yesterday. >> i watched every day since then. how old would i have been? >> brian: after the show show, you'll meet the entire band. >> wow. >> steve: see you tomorrow, everybody. bill: what a cool guy. kenny rogers, a gentleman. day 8 of the partial government shutdown. the white house is threatening ththe social security checks may be delayed. welcome to america's newsroom. martha: that will get a little attention. great to see you this morning. the government shutdown so far has had no impact on social security. but that could change we are hearing. failure to raise the nation's credit limit