sportsmanship. ellen says if there are students who fight, punish them. whatever happened to consequences? finally, it is time for parents and local residents to stand together, go to these schools and put a stop to these ridiculous rules they are coming up with. these schools are paid by the taxpayer and should abide by the majority. >> thanks for all of you who responded. "fox & friends" starts now. bye. >>elisabeth: good morning. it's wednesday, october 9. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. the families of our fallen soldiers now being told there is no money to bury those who died fighting for our flag. but wait, congress approved the money, so where the heck is it? the national guard just spent 50 grand this week on a mechanical bull. what is going on at the department of defense? >>steve: that's a lot of bull. the nine-year-old who exposed the flaws in the t.s.a. by boarding an airplane to las vegas without parents or a ticket

has a lot more to his story than we first thought. wait till you hear what he was up to before he took off in a plane like that one. >>brian: sorry, shark, can't do lunch today. got to go. the amazing pictures you have to see to believe. sadly, if you're listening on the radio going to work, you're going to have to take my word for it. "fox & friends" starts now. >> hear ye, hear ye! this is the town crier. you are watching "fox & friends." >>steve: we should explain to elisabeth. that is the town crier at the time the royal baby was born a couple of months ago. they had the town crier come to the steps of the hospital and cry hear ye! hear ye. we figured we should have our own. >>brian: we are trying to get him work because they

made him old news like the pacemaker. but o if you can get the voiceover, you tkoeupbt need -- you don't need the crier. >>steve: hear ye! hear ye! this first story is going to thoroughly upset you. >>brian: let's talk about what's happening with the shutdown. we are in day nine of the shutdown, eight days until we hit the debt limit. now we find out the latest casualties -- pun intended -- are soldiers who lost their lives in battle. the benefits that their families should get in order to bury them and actually travel to see them are being held on hold. >>elisabeth: they are known for work they do to

build up military homes, comfort homes for families of injured soldiers, disney is. >>brian: they are at a veterans hospital. what do the families do if they want support? fisher house provides support if they want to eat and live there for free. >>steve: everybody is going to go how could congress possibly have let this happen. duncan hunter, the california congressman who you're about to hear from, says wait a minute, we already took care of this. a couple of days ago we passed the pay our military act. he says not only would that pay the active military but also pay the death gratuity, $100,000 payment. nonetheless, he says because there are lawyers in washington, d.c., they have a careless legal interpretation of the benefit, so th*e not -- so they're not getting the money. but mr. hunter says this

could be fixed instantly. >> why did they make the decision to send back bodies in caskets? why do they buy $80,000 toilet seats? why do they have program after program that does not work? the reason is they make bad decisions sometimes. this is one of those bad decisions. instead of confessing and saying we got this wrong w*er going to fix it. for some reason they're digging their heels in. it is easy to say we have three other lawyers here. let's pay it and get this over with. they could do that literally tonight and this money could be wired, transferred in the morning to these families. it's that easy for them to fix this. they don't have to wait for congress. >>elisabeth: he is right. suspended during the shutdown is the program that pays for the families, to pay them to dover air force base so they can see their loved ones. >>brian: $100,000

immediately. >>steve: it is the travel because they are only going to be transferred one time to dover and that is going to happen today. the government is not coming up with cash for that. apparently the army rangers lead the way. also along with the fisher house, they made the gesture that they would pay the $100,000 gratuity. we should also point out if you think that's all they get, if a man or woman is killed in the line of duty, they also get a $400,000 death benefit. but that of course is no solace for these people who have lost four soldiers and a marine in the last week. >>brian: everyone making their speeches in the senate, how outrageous, it is true. if you listen to speaker boehner he says today there will be a special bill put forward and i'm sure it will pass the house and find its way in the senate to pay these death benefits immediately and we'll see how it goes. also i don't know the mechanics of how this all took place. duncan hunter, who served in iraq three times now serving the country in

congress, he says it is a lawyer thing. i'm wondering if it is somehow a maximize the pain thing coming from somebody. >>steve: let's hope not. it is despicable. >>elisabeth: you mentioned the mechanics of how this is happening. the mechanical bull for the national guard recruitment center is being paid for. >>elisabeth: 47,170 dollar contract goes from the general services administration forward to this company that supplies the mechanical bull which essentially is supposed to get people interested in signing up for the national guard. >>steve: for recruiting purposes, they have it at fairs and stuff like that, ride the bull. you know when the government bought that? monday. the government was shut down monday. the g.a.o. apparently did the contract that day. also while the shutdown continues to cause pain to a lot of people, as we have detailed here on the fox news channel, you know what's open?

the gym, the congressional gym on both the house side and the senate side. they are open. however, the gym for members of congress's staff, they are closed. the bad thing is at the gyms that feature saw in a, steam, flat-screen televisions, there is no towel service and there is no cleaning things up. >>brian: you're allowed to work out. here's what congressman waxman said. people shouldn't worry if the wellness center is open. they should worry if the government is closed but it's all part of the semantics and optics. let's talk about what happened yesterday in the afternoon. i did not hear all of this because i was listening on the fox news radio app and i went into the subway and it cut out for all of it. i did not hear when the president walked out to give his hour-long-plus press conference about the shutdown, the debt limit we're about to hit and the

shutdown that was ongoing and his refusal to talk or be held hostage, which is his words, by the speaker and the republicans in the house. i did not hear one difficult question, one question that would be, i guess, a welcome opportunity for the president to explain his position of not negotiating and using historiccable precedent to define why he is not negotiating with anybody in congress. >>steve: mark miller of cbs radio asked a good question at one point where he said what about all these funding measures that the republicans have passed to go ahead and fund veterans and national parks and n.i.h. and stuff like that? he essentially punted on that, swatted that away. nobody asked a single question about the affordable care act, which was interesting. and as you look at him right there in the briefing room, on the front row are all the tv reporters. he did not take a single question from any tv

reporter. instead he asked questions from people in rows three through seven and then when, you could tell the huffing and puffing of people who were thinking, wait a minute, you normally ask me questions. he said, quote, i'm just going through my list, guys. talk to jay carney. who runs things over at the white house? jay carney or the president? >>brian: evidently jay carney is upset he's having such a hard time from people at the press conference like jonathan karl, like chuck todd. these are direct questions. for example, the president says there is no history, no precedent for negotiating on the debt ceiling is flatout wrong. in 1985, reagan did. why couldn't one of those questions have come up? if i'm the president i would want that question because i still don't know why he voted for the debt ceiling not raised in 2000, in 2006. and is it was raised. >>elisabeth: he didn't want to do that.

there was no questions on obamacare, no questions on the idea that a bipartisan committee was suggested by republicans, no question about the rhetoric that's been thrown around we have the leader of the free world using language to describe republicans in the house trying to get something done, saying hostage, insane, ransom, nuclear bomb, payoff disaster, the scare tactics with language alone, this same president got just after tucson -- remember the press conference that was given when president obama said this culture of hate should not be created. he actually thought that the culture of hate in description and divisiveness going on created what happened in tucson for a moment, a lot of people thought. and here he is using rhetoric that, i mean, is terrible to describe our own nation. and shouldn't he start at home? shouldn't you start in your own house literally? >>steve: that is such a good point. but he's aiming his rhetoric at the house.

he is angry at the house. and they are simply standing on principle. >>brian: just a bad day for washington yesterday. nothing happened. >>steve: you know what, brian? you might blame one of the reasons that the president jumped over the first row asking questions, and that is that suddenly the mainstream media is talking about it's both sides to blame because the white house would prefer it is those darned republicans. no, the blame is going everywhere and the president doesn't like it. >>brian: tweet us. what questions did you want asked yesterday? we'll read them out. that is at "fox & friends." heather, you have other news? >> the undercover detective now under arrest for his involvement in the attack of the driver right in front of his wife and child. the 32-year-old is a ten-year veteran of the nypd. he originally claimed that he wasn't involved in that beatdown but investigators now say they've got video

of him smashing the back window of the s.u.v. a sixth biker was also charged on tuesday. new this morning, the nine-year-old boy who sneaked past airport security and boarded a plane to las vegas is heading back to minnesota this morning. this as we're learning more about his past. he's been accused of stealing a truck and also walking into a water park without paying. child protective services investigated him four times since the month of december -- to say his family they have investigated. the boy's father spoke to a local news station saying, quote, i don't have an angel. i have a nine-year-old. he's got a behavior program. tom cruise an tphoubsing he has -- announcing he has type 2 diabetes. he says the weight he's lost and gained for movie roles may be a factor. >> i went to the doctor and

they said you know those high blood sugar numbers you've been dealing with since you were 36, you've graduated. you've got type 2 diabetes. >> hanks appeared slim and trim saying he's been advised to control his weight. >>brian: coming up straight ahead, the president announcing his new pick to leave the federal reserve. liberal democrats love janet yellin. will you feel the same way. stuart varney is here. is love in his eye? ♪ ♪

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>>brian: fox news alert. the president announcing his new pick to lead the federal reserve. it is janet yellen. she will be the first chairwoman in history to have that job and she is very admired by liberal democrats. what does this nomination mean for the economy? stuart varney is here to weigh in. stuart, if she gets the okay in january, when bernanke hits the pavement, what does it mean for us? >> it means interest rates are going to stay very, very low. >>brian: why? >> janet yellen is likely to keep on printing money. the effect of printing $85 billion a month is to lower interest rates right down to the ground floor. that means when you go to a bank for a bank c.d., you'll earn virtually nothing in interest. but when you go to get a mortgage, your mortgage rate will stay ultra low, just above 4% that. 's what -- that's what janet yellen means for interest rates and the

economy. >>brian: when ben bernanke kept the printing presses going, wall street was happy but others were scratching their head. does janet yellen believe what bernanke believes? >> she does. janet yellen is about to become the most powerful person in the world. she rules the world of money. not armies but money. her policies will shift trillions of dollars. she's very important and she's in the bernanke mold. print money. >>brian: let's talk about the debt ceiling. the president came out and said a lot yesterday but one thing stood out. that is when he said we need to raise the debt ceiling but we're not really adding on to the debt and this is money we've already spent. this is not a big deal that we're going past $17 trillion. >> nonsense. forgive the harsh language but that is nonsense. when you extend the debt ceiling, you raise the debt ceiling, you're allowed to borrow more money. you go deeper into debt. >>brian: stuart, here he is yesterday right at the top of his hour-long press conference. >> if congress refuses to

raise what's called the debt ceiling, america would not be able to meet all of our financial obligations for the first time in 225 years. and because it's called raising the debt ceiling, i think a lot of americans think it's raising our debt. it is not raising our debt. it does not add a dime to our debt. >> yes, it does. we will raise the debt ceiling at some point. we'll raise it by $1 trillion. we'll go from $17 trillion in debt to $18 trillion in debt. that does add $1 trillion to our debt. period. >>brian: how do you expect the markets to react to that? >> the markets will be up a little bit because of janet yellen. >>brian: we'll see as we get closer to the 17th who's right. stuart varney will be hosting his show back at 9:20 eastern time. coming up straight ahead,

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>>elisabeth: welcome back. time for headlines. 140 babies at a nevada hospital may have been exposed to tuberculosis. a mother and twin babies died from the disease and 26 others were infected.

job seekers in illinois will no longer be asked about their criminal past when they apply for state jobs. state agencies can do background checks but it will happen later on in the hiring process. steve, have they checked your criminal past? >>steve: it all started with a $1,000 investment in high-powered investments. by the year 2012 buckyballs set to bring in $20 million in sales but it came crashing down when the consumer product safety commission said it's too dangerous to sell for the kids, and the company wound up closing up shop. the fight is not over. craig zucker, the company's former c.e.o., says he's being targeted by the government and is fighting back. he joins us live. one of the reasons you're fighting back is because after the recall where the government went to the people who sold your product and said stop selling it, they have now hit you with, what, a $57

million fine? you've got to pay for the recall? >> you know, the company that made buckyballs, and after the government came after that company, it dissolved in 2012. in 2013, they decided for the first time to not pierce the corporate veil but to eliminate, limit the liability for company officers and for entrepreneurs and to go after an individual for the company's obligations. >>steve: let's talk about why the government went after you. here's a quotation from the consumer product safety commission. they said the injuries suffered by many children have been like a gunshot wound to their gut with no sign of entry or exit. cpsc estimated more than 1,700 children had to be treated in emergency rooms between 2009 and 2011 because of injuries relateed to high-powered magnets. were those injuries all related to bucky balls?

no. those are all magnet injuries. buckyballs, refrigerator magnets. >>steve: the buckyballs you were not marketing them toward children? >> bucky balls had five labels to keep away from all children. they were sold exclusively to stores that didn't sell exclusively to children, marketed to adults only. we had a lot of safeguards to make sure they weren't getting in children's hands. >>steve: sounds like it. so why did the government come after you. have you been targeted? >> it is the first time an individual's name has come up. i think a lot of people think after the government came after maxill noverton, we started "save our

balls." we disagree with the commission's assessment and it is the first time someone took such an aggressive approach. >>steve: they want $57 million from you. >> i don't have that much money. i'm still a very small business owner. i think the fight and the reason we launched a new campaign called united we ball. >>steve: plus you've got these liberty balls. >> same thing but bigger, we're very concerned about the idea of the government trying to do away with limited liability for company officers and entrepreneurs. this means an individual who runs a company, lawfully following the rules, not breaking any law, can now be responsible for the company's actions. we and people in washington and business owners are concerned about it. we've created a campaign to raise money to fight the commission. we intend to win and we intend to make sure that doesn't happen to any entrepreneurs ever again. >>steve: it is a crazy story. good luck. >> can i tell people

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chorus. kenny was in yesterday. on our live show he did his new song "america." then on the after-the-show show kenny joined by maria molina on guitar and spwaoebgt on guitar. someone called and said maria is faking it. she never fakes it. she did a fantastic job. he was a lot of fun. as we're noticing from the video, it's like in the shower. you always sound better in the shower. >>brian: i think you guys sound good. >>elisabeth: we missed you. >>brian: it is such a shame i missed it. i was born to sing with kenny rogers. i just could not get the time off. >>steve: it looks like one of the undiscovered episodes of "hee haw." here's what everyone is saying. >>elisabeth: matthew

tweeted in y'all fixin' to be kenny's backup singers. >>steve: harold says can't believe kenny has nine-year-old twins. he talked about that. thank you very much, "fox & friends," for keeping the legend in the spotlight. we love him because he is a regular viewer of fox news channel and the "fox & friends" show over the last 17 years, watches every day, probably watching this morning in atlanta. if you would like to see the entire song in its entirety, it is on friends@foxnews.com. [buzzer sounds] >>brian: it's not? >>elisabeth: as if you haven't heard enough already. >> i think i thought i was dolly parton. you guys ever have a car i don't -- karoeke party, invite me. >> staff members who have

been furloughed have been called back at the c.d.'s. the sam knell -- salmonella outbreak so bad for chicken p6137, p6137a and p7632. new jersey governor christie facing off against barbara buomo. the two traded jabs with buomo accused bono of spending too much time pandering with the media. >> there is nothing about late night shows that will erase the fact that we have 400,000 people out of work. >> does governor christie

have his sights set on the oval office. >> the only person upset with 2016 on this stage is senator buomo. she spends more time talking about that than she spends time talking about if she ever became governor. >> he's going to need a much smaller boat. a truck hauling a boat a little too big for a bridge overpass. take a look at this. >> sounds like there was a child in the car too. that driver slammed into the height restriction bar feet away from the overpass. ouch! a lucky seal avoids a grizzly death just by a nose. a tourist snapping this picture off the coast of south africa. look at that. that is a shark and it misses his mark.

he nails a seal with its snout instead of his teeth. that seal uses a flipper to avoid falling into the shark's mouth. that is darwinism. >>elisabeth: that is a navy seal. i like that guy. >>steve: lucky. thank you very much. the shark just was off by about a foot. >>elisabeth: the seal knows if you are being attacked by a shark, you have to punch in the nose. >>brian: those poster seals know how to survive a shark attack. maria molina, you have the latest weather. >> we're tracking coastal area -- >>steve: you did a good job on the guitar. >> thank you. apparently i'm not good at playing the guitar for real or for fake. it was a lot of fun. let's take a look at the weather conditions across the country because we do have an area of low pressure that we're tracking. this storm system is going to be heading up the coast across parts of north carolina, virginia, the state of maryland and all the way up even to parts of

the northeast. new york city and the city of boston, you're going to be in for a little bit of rain and also wind associated with this storm system. you can take a look at the forecast, take a look at thursday and friday. rain across north carolina, virginia, all the way up to new york city. a very widespread area that is going to be dealing with rain and gusty winds around 50 miles an hour. three to five inches of rain forecast. the bull's eye across parts of the mid-atlantic. high temperatures widespread in the 70's across the midwest. 80's across texas. over to you. brian? >>brian: let's begin with baseball. a lot of action. boston fans waking up happy this morning as they beat tampa bay last night to clinch that series and move on. i think they're going to go all the way this time. this time they'll either face the tigers or open athletics. they win 3-1 last night. we're going to find out who

wins the oakland series tonight. helping his two-year-old nephew perfecting his twin, you got david ortiz. his nephew sent a rocket back and hit him below the belt. you should always wear a cup in that game. that's a quick look at what happened in the world of sports. tigers actually survived yesterday. >>steve: remember this? first anna tried to join sicker -- seurbgd -- cirque soleil. >>elisabeth: anna has landed and is here to tell her story. >> i headed to a trapeze

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them she doesn't like to tell because she's a little bit embarrassed about it. she looks like a million dollars too. >>elisabeth: i'll meet you guys there. >>brian: only if they take the net away. >>steve: we work without a net on this show. >>brian: sounds like a great slogan for a school but parents suing because it makes their kids who go to other schools feel bad. really? >>elisabeth: this is a vaccine that protects against four different strains of the flu. one problem? there is just not enough for everyone. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ reality

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apple hoping to take another bite out of your wallet. they are expected to unveil an ipad on october 22. they expect it to be lighter, thinner with a better camera and hopefully a different chargeer so i can be more confused. he can't believe they made a federal case out of this. some parents at the roy gum elementary school in reno, nevada, are suing because of the school logo that bears the slogan "tomorrow's leaders." the parents say the slogan is dismissive of students at other schools. we'll follow that story because it is so ridiculous. >>steve: meanwhile, it is that time of the year again. we're talking about cold and flu season. >>elisabeth: since up to 1 billion americans are affected each year, it is important to know how to prevent and properly treat both -fplgt -- treat both. here with answers is dr. travis. >> neck up symptoms for the

cold, congestion, runny nose. flu affects your entire body. you feel achey, fever. also treatment is quite a bit different. i think people never realize that we have a vaccine for the flu. we don't have one for the cold yet. but it's something to pay attention to because this is october, the start of the flu season, it is starting to hit across the country. >>steve: there is one thing you can do simply that a lot of people don't realize. it is something i do once a day. it's a sinus rinse. >> one of the things -- i had a great partnership with simply saline. i'm trying to spread the word that you don't always need to take pills for everything. use it every day; right? >>steve: to wash all the stuff out of your sinus. >> congestants, irritants, pollutants. when you're congested from a cold it is an all-natural remedy and it works.

>>brian: my son has had allergies since he was one. >> you get used to it. after you do it, you feel cleansed. >>steve: but you're not taking a pill? >> it is safe especially for pregnant mothers, kids who can't take cough and cold medicines. the other take-away is colds last, some of them last up to two weeks. so the overuse of antibiotics is another mission of mine, if you have a cold antibiotics do not work for it. >>elisabeth: when do you call a doctor and when do you ride it out? >> if you can't get out of bed and can't go to work, that's when you call a doctor. if you think you have a cold and you're otherwise fine, you don't always need to go see the doctor. >>steve: yesterday we had kenny rogers on. he said he just got his flu shot at walgreens. who else should get a flu

shot? >> the c.d.c. said anyone over six months and i agree. if you are real young, pregnant or if you are really old, these are really lifesaving vaccines. i'm a big believer in the flu srabg saoefpblt >>steve: there is a new one that covers four strains. >> it's called the quad but only a quarter of vaccines have this in this. if you can only get the old-school one, go for it. the sooner the better. >>steve: travis, thank you very much for making a couch call. >> always a pleasure. >>brian: we will not get sick this year. >>steve: next up on the rundown, the undercover cop riding with the bikers in that brutal gang attack, that cop now under arrest. why? his story didn't match the video of what he's accused of. >>brian: post game

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>>elisabeth: this is video we're seeing. we heard before this officer was involved, but now we're hearing that, see the helmet going through the window there. is that him? >> i'm not sure if that's the video where it shows the officer allegedly striking the vehicle, kicking the vehicle before getting on his bike and riding off. >>brian: it's shot from the other side. cops saw it. they said listen, you were there, number one. you didn't act to stop it. not only that, you actually were pounding on the window. so, therefore, you're under arrest; correct? >> absolutely. from the very beginning it was very difficult to find a reason why it would take three days to come forward. now it turns out, he also may have played a more sinister role than originally anticipated. he is under arrest charged with criminal mischief and also riot. >>elisabeth: what's the next step here? i keep hearing he's on modified duty.

what does that mean? >> no longer on active duty. been stripped of his badge and shield, pretty much on desk duty pending investigation. >>brian: nypd arguably the best in the world with what they do. when a guy like you who served on the nypd sees this, what do you do? >> clearly it's a sad situation. it reflects badly on the organization, but i've got to say this. this is contrary to what most officers in the nypd would have done. also the nypd holds its officers more accountable and to a higher standard than most other law enforcement agencies that i'm familiar with. >>brian: we'll see what happens with the other two that were part of that gang. >> this is a developing story. i think there's much more to come. >>elisabeth: thank you. we'll keep everyone updated as we get more details. still ahead, a mom delivers a healthy baby 35 days after her water breaks. she joins us with her miracle baby. >>brian: your e-mails pouring in yesterday about

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>> elisabeth: good morning. it's wednesday, october 9. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. they paid the ultimate sacrifice and now families of our fallen heros being told there is no money to bury them. but wait, congress approved the money. so where is it? the national guard spent almost 50 grand on a mechanical bull. what's going on at the department of defense? >> brian: then it's the story doctors are calling a miracle. this baby born 35 days after his mother's water broke and still alive. that families joins us on how the baby is thriving today. >> steve: that's a crow cast inaugurate. one high school banning post game handshakes for every sport because the handshake starts the

fights. >> brian: it happens a lot. >> steve: it does. we'll tell but that and so much more, hour two for "fox & friends" for wednesday starts right now live from new york city. >> this is simon cowell, unfortunately for you, you're watching "fox & friends." [ laughter ] >> brian: it was his birthday yesterday. >> steve: really? >> brian: yes. i seen a picture in the post. he's probably not going to embrace it. >> steve: what does it look like? >> brian: it looks like him in the back of a car. i should leave it there. >> steve: you brought it up! >> brian: i know it. >> elisabeth: lights on the top of it? >> brian: no, well. you're going to look, aren't you? >> steve: this is the daily news. simon cowell, happy birthday yesterday. thanks for the shout out. >> brian: by the way, it's true when it comes to the hand shakes in the games, in boxing, you're punching a guy for 12 rounds, you're not going to fight at the end of the fight. but in sports, you're still angry at the end of a fight. you don't like the outcome or

bad call. handshake may not the best move. >> elisabeth: i say deal with what's causing the handshake issue. >> brian: so you think they should shake hands? >> elisabeth: i think they should make them hold hands if they're fighting. that's what i do with my boys. hold your hands for 20 minutes. i'm going to watch them. >> brian: you tell a bunch of 16-year-old players, go hold hands? >> elisabeth: yeah. bring the moms in. they'll take care of it. >> steve: first, the cover of the daily news here in new york, take a look at this. they died for our country. now politicians block a benefit check to bury them. satisfied? heros -- the story is this, because of the government shutdown, the death benefits to the families of those killed in action, including four soldiers and one marine in the last week, they're not getting paid. well, that's the way the government is interpreting things. but according to duncan huntser, republican from california, the

pay our military act that congress did pass at the last moment before the shutdown and the president signed, that should pay for this. but he says because of careless interpretation, nobody is getting a benefit. >> brian: plus on top of that, the families have to pay for their own travel to dover and let alone not having the money to bury those who lost their lives in battle coming back from afghanistan or wherever else this happened. so today the house is going to put in a resolution together. i'm sure it will pass the senate. but it's going to pass this specifically as this ongoing cr, continuing resolution, which we don't have approved, continues with the debt ceiling on october 17th looming. >> elisabeth: it certainly didn't pass by colonel oliver north yesterday when he was talking to megyn kelly. >> this isn't about the government shutdown. it's about whether the commander in chief gives a damn about the morale of our troops. that's what it really comes down to. those serving in harm's way and their families and the morale of

those families. it does not take an act of congress to authorize this travel by the dependents of the families of our dead or our wounded. call it takes is a commander in chief with a conscience. >> steve: ollie he's group stepped up and offered to pay -- help the families get to dover today. the bodies are returning to dover for the exchange. >> brian: that's called freedom alliance. >> steve: right. also fisher house announced they would like to go ahead and pay for it. but i understand the army rangers lead the way fund is actually going to be pa the money so that the families -- and i believe 15 family members are going to be at dover, not because the government is paying the money that we owe those people, but because these private organizations have stepped up to make sure that a wrong is righted. >> brian: national guard did something that shows they're a little deaf to the realities. on monday, they bought a

mechanical bull for $47,174. they signed that contract and it's to help recruitment fort utah national guard. but in a time in which $50,000 could go a long way, especially in the defense department, not good timing. >> steve: bad optics. >> elisabeth: yesterday obviously was a busy day in washington. the national mall is open for an immigration rally. eight house democrats were arrested. did you -- charlie rangel is tweeting, about to be arrested. there is a video. we have their names here. representative paul griava -- sending updates as it was happening. right there on the supposedly closed national mall at the monument. >> brian: they were supposed to get 100,000 people. then they said 35,000. that was only about a quarter full of the 35,000 and these legislators showed up at the national mall with a ton of security around them to show up. they wanted to get arrested from day one to prove a point that they could get arrested, i guess.

>> elisabeth: they blocked the street. some blocking the street. >> steve: and there is nancy pelosi. we brought this story to your attention yesterday because keep in mind, not too far from where she is standing right there is the world war ii memorial that has been barricaded from our service personnel who wanted to go and visit. so now they're going through this loophole, well, we'll let the veterans in for first amendment purposes, whatever that means. but they let them in. the national park service did issue a permit so that that organization supporting illegals in this country, a road to status, could have the event there. here is the thing, yesterday in addition to the eight members of congress, 200 people got arrested. all right. how much manpower does it take to arrest 200 people and process them throughout the day? remember, the world war ii memorial vets, they just want to go in and take a picture. that takes very little manpower and it's extraordinary that they

even have that thing manned. but you had to have all the manpower to process these 200 people getting arrested yesterday. they wanted to make a point, they did. but it took a lot of manpower. >> brian: dennis lynch, who has been on our show before, did two really good documentaries on immigration in america, one coming to america. he had to ask nancy pelosi a question. let's listen. >> nancy, did you visit the vet memorial today? >> not yet. >> are you going? >> i go all the time. >> are you going today? >> i don't have time. >> nancy, go today, make sure they can get in. okay? >> i don't go to grand stand. >> you don't? what's today? is today a grand stand? >> brian: whoa. >> steve: keep in mind, with this government shutdown, it is the first time in our nation's history that war memorials have ever been closed. extraordinarily on monday, there were a group of people at the memorial plaza here in new york city doing first amendment activities and four veterans were arrested, according to

gateway pundits. >> brian: heather nauert has more. in terms of immigration and a big showdown to put pressure on legislators, not a big turnout yesterday. >> this relates to what we're talking about and that is a partial government shutdown. no sunday mass and that is what will happen on military bases all around the world if the senate doesn't vote on a bill allowing military chaplains back on bases. the government has contracts with dozens of nonactive duty priests and because of that shutdown, hundreds of them are unable to hold services for 275,000 catholic members of the military all across the globe. on sunday the house passed a bill allowing them to return to work, but so far the senate refused to bring that measure to a vote. we'll keep watching that one for you. in the meantime, an undercover detective is now under arrest for his involvement in the attack of a driver in front of his wife and his toddler daughter. 32-year-old man is a ten-year

veteran of the nypd. he have originally claimed he wasn't involved in that beatdown. but investigators now say that they have video, video of him smashing the back window of that suv. a sixth biker was also charged yesterday. also new this morning, the nine-year-old boy who sneaked past airport security and boarded a plane to las vegas is heading back to minnesota. this as we learn more about this young man's past. he's been accused of stealing a truck and also walking into a water park without paying. representatives for the boy's family says they are not giving up on him. >> he's a nine-year-old that needs some direction. they know that. they realize that and they're look for some support. they're looking for help. >> child protective services has investigated his family four times since december. hand shakes after a gum, standard displays of sportsmanship. but listen to this, in kentucky, high schools -- this could

become a thing of the past. state leaders want to stop them because they say it can lead to fights between the teams. listen to this. >> i believe sportsmanship, especially in school athletics, is the most important thing you can teach. >> try to teach your kids sportsmanship, i think high school sports are basically for that purpose. >> teams can ignore this order, but the schools have to supervise it. they have to supervise those handshakes to make sure no fights break out. oh, boy. >> brian: hence the difference. with girls, it's amazing. with my daughter's team, she's 13, they will make -- what do they call it? >> elisabeth: it tunnel. >> brian: what do we appreciate? the team we just beat. but with guys, i literally, even as young as when they were 12, you got to stand right here. >> steve: because you're afraid the kids are going to beat each other up? >> brian: absolutely. you can't control 18 on your team and 18 on your team and plus, it's a 90-minuting sparring session. >> elisabeth: why don't they get suspended for the next game?

>> brian: absolutely. but you can't control everybody's temper at every age. >> steve: when i was coaching, whether it was soccer or softball or whatever, the thing we had to watch was, okay, kids, let me see your hands before you actually shake hands with the other team because a lot of kids would -- they were angry that the other team won and they would spit on their hand and do that. okay. dry hand check. okay, now go. >> elisabeth: i'm not okay with that either. >> brian: earlier we asked but this during the president's press conference yesterday. he didn't call out any tv reporters. he got no tough questions. we wanted to ask you what were the questions you wanted to ask. for example, ryan, if you were in on this press conference. >> elisabeth: he said i would ask how does it feel not to be able to pay your own bills? now you know how the rest of us feel. it's your economy. >> steve: gretchen writes in, if this health care is so great, why will you and the senate not participate? why do you get some special dispensation? are you above the law that you

designed? good question. another question not asked of the chief executive yesterday. if you got more, keep them coming. >> brian: i just got a tweet that says, would you accept early retirement? which i don't think the president was up for. >> steve: probably not. >> brian: nor could you really follow that up. i just have one question. what do you mean there is no precedent for negotiating. why did you vote in 2006 not to raise the debt ceiling? don't say it was a blow away vote. it was 52-48 that easily could have been voted down. >> steve: i thought the extraordinary thing was the president will talk at 2:00 o'clock. we figured okay, we've come to a compromise. nope. essentially came out and said, i'm not going to compromise! which is what i've been saying for the last ten days. >> elisabeth: isn't that what government is designed to do? >> steve: hello? >> elisabeth: apparently not right now. >> brian: coming up next, 12 minutes after the hour, for the person who has everything, you can now pay to live like a homeless person to see what it's really like. we are not kidding.

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>> what we haven't been able to get are serious positions from the republicans that would allows us to actually resolve some core differences and they have decided to run out the clock until there is a government shutdown for the possibility of default thinking that it would give them more leverage. >> the president said today was if there is unconditional surrender by republicans, he'll sit down and talk to us.

that's not the way our government works. >> steve: but that's the way it's working right now. the government shutdown entering day nine. one republican congressman isn't letting his staff off the hook. south carolina's mark sanford telling his staff, come on back. forget about the shutdown, you got work it do. and the congressman joins us right now. good morning to you. >> good morning to you. >> steve: why did you call them back? >> quite simply, i think it's a fairly basic concept. if you're paying somebody, they ought to be at work for that pay. on saturday, we took a vote here in the house that basically was 407-0. it's one of those bills that there is no question about. the president said he will sign it. it basically put the handwriting on the wall that all these furloughed workers will be paid, particularly given the fact that in the last 17 government shutdowns, in every instance, back pay has ended up coming back around to furloughed federal workers.

>> steve: last week when we were talking about the capitol officers chasing down the car going crazy, they were deemed essential. they were working that day, but they weren't getting paid. and then you guys made sure that everybody was going to get their back pay. so if everybody is going to get back pay, why aren't all the staffs from all the members of congress coming back to work? >> well, everybody can decide for themselves what fits. but again, i looked at it, seemed like the handwriting was on the wall and it raises a larger point that i think the president has been overdoing, which is trying to inflict as much pain on as many people as possible as a way of gaining favor, if you will, in this current impasse in washington, d.c so a long-standing tradition for me over 20 years of being in and out of washington was running down to the lincoln memorial. it's never been shut before in the history of our nation. so whether it's things like the lincoln memorial or congress national staff, there is a lot of collateral damage in the way of impact to working folks across this country that doesn't need to be there. >> steve: do you really think the president of the united

states and the white house and democrats are trying to hurt people to make a point, to make you guys look stupid? >> i believe so, simply because if you go back a couple hundred years, that's pretty big sample size and you find never before in the history of our nation have things like the lincoln memorial been closed or this dustup at mount rushmore in south dakota or take this, back home in charleston, south carolina, there is a landing about 30 miles north of charleston called buck hall. it's on federal property. i get a letter this weekend from our department of natural resources saying, wait a minute. why are you feds closing this? this is an unmanned landing. there has never been personnel at this landing before, but y'all have put up barricades preventing people from using that boat landing in a way that's never been the case. i can give you a lot of different examples where there is unnecessary hardship to regular folks simply as a way, again, of gaining political favor. the press did in in the

southwest -- never before has the white house before shut down to public tours. but he did, quote n the wake of sequester and that's still the case. >> steve: that is just sad, if that's true. congressman mark sanford, who has got to go to work because his whole staff showing up today here on capitol hill, thank you very much for making time for us. >> my pleasure. take care. >> steve: what do you think about that? the white house and democrats hurting people to make a political point? e-mail us. coming up, is the al-jazeera network still on tv? the brand-new low for that network coming up next. next, instead of watering down the game of football, how about we teach our kids how to take a hit? former football player and wwe star chris nowinski will be here as we roll on live from new york city. go ahead. let him have it. ♪ if you think a prune is a prune, you haven't tried sunsweet,

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>> steve: let's do news by the numbers. first, $1.2 billion. that's how much it's going to cost taxpayers in back pay for the one week furloughed workers were off the job so far. next, $2,000. that's what a seattle tour service is charging to experience life as a homeless person for three days. shouldn't that be free? finally, zero. that's al-jazeera's ratings from the united states for its daytime programming last week for people 25 to 54 years old. the key demographic. apparently zero people watch it. a lot of people, though, are watching elisabeth hasselbeck outside along with brian kilmeade. >> elisabeth: thanks, steve. our next guest has taken a share of hits on and off the field and in the ring as a former harvard

football player and wwe superstar. he's now using his expertise and wisdom to warn others about the dangers of head injuries. >> brian: his sports legacy project is tremendous. chris, welcome. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> brian: if you notice, the nfl changed their tackling techniques. it rocked the pros. we really want to make people safe from the time they start playing until they go pro, right? >> when you start this conversation, we have to appreciate that football is just more dangerous the younger they are. so we really have to emphasize safety, teach them properly but consider how young you are when you start to tackle. >> elisabeth: i want to introduce our young players here. what's your name? >> sam. >> elisabeth: hi. >> damon. >> elisabeth: you guys play hockey. i know we were talking and you play football. the importance of avoiding concussions, over 25,000 medical reports came in with head injuries for kids playing sports, right? >> yes. >> elisabeth: what do we need to know? >> we need to know that concussions are incredibly serious. when they get them, you need to

get them off the field but it's even better to preven them before they occur so we don't have that brain damage. >> brian: first off, you want to demonstrate is don't hit with the head. >> right. >> brian: you carry the ball, sam that, okay? >> you hold the ball. damon, stand there. >> brian: we were talking -- >> we were talk being how proper technique is important. damien, show them how we get low, we step forward and keep our chin up and rip up when we tackle. show them. >> elisabeth: ripping up. >> good job. keep that chin up and chest up. >> brian: just hold it. >> elisabeth: it's a motion up. not at. >> yeah, yeah. the key is don't drop your head and try to hit like this. keep your chin up and try to tackle up. every coach will be teaching through the tackling. >> elisabeth: do they train coaches in this? >> that looks good. not every coach is trained, not every player is trained. if your kid is playing, make sure they get trained. >> elisabeth: next is moving with the hip. >> and keeping your head on a

swivel. imagine if system sam is running the ball, damien, stand here. if i'm trying to tackle sam, sam, why don't you run that way. if i'm looking at sam, sometimes i don't see that there is a blocker coming at me. that could be really dangerous. so it's important to teach these young men to have good peripheral vision, even though with a child it is hard tore have good peripheral vision. so i see him if he doesn't blind side me. >> brian: because the shot you don't see you can't brace for. >> that's right. that's why strength is so important. >> elisabeth: odont be a bobble -- don't be a bobble head. >> kids are bobble heads. if you look at young kids, your skull is full size by the time you're five years old. so it doesn't take much of a hit to make their heads move really far. we found 7-year-olds actually get as much brain trauma as college football players because of those big heads. so what you want to do is strengthen their neck. we have a great program on concussion checklist.org to

teach strengthening so they have a better shot of protecting themselves if they get hit. >> brian: fantastic. sports legacy institute is what you have formed to help people with questions to make sure concussions are things of the past. >> absolutely. >> brian: proud of you, good job. i think you're on your way to being pro if you choose to give up hockey, which your parents have to decide. >> elisabeth: you stick with what you love, buddy. steve, back to you. >> steve: thank you very much. coming up during the presidential election, mitt romney said a shutdown was coming if barak obama was reelected. how was he so sure? the former presidential candidate tells fox the answer to that coming up. and it's a date with death. a new watch claiming to tell you when you're going to die. okay, if you could buy that, would you want to know?

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meanwhile, 28 minutes before the top of the hour -- >> brian: in chinese. >> steve: i think came out in english. that's how i was anal to read it. during the presidential campaign, mitt romney issued a warning. if president obama is reelected, he will refuse to negotiate with congress. the federal government would shut down and america would risk defaulting on our debt. >> brian: he's nosta romney. >> elisabeth: how is he show sure? he explained exclusively to sean hannity last night. >> my concern was the president in his first term pushed through things on a partisan basis, was unable to work across the aisle and then spent the last two years of his first term attacking republicans in congress and showing an unwillingness to reach across the aisle and frankly, you can't get things done in a bipartisan nature where you have three branches of government unless all three branches are willing to work with each other. this president has not shown that inclination frankly since

he's been in office and the country is in the balance. i don't think the american people can understand how the person who is to lead the country would possibly take a position saying i'm not willing to talk. i'm not willing to look for common ground. that is just not realistic. >> brian: i think it was polling poorly that the president saying, i'm not going to talk. now he says, i will talk about anything at any time after you do everything i ask. >> steve: that's not a deal! >> brian: that's just not how you negotiate. shear what john boehner says, he can't say i just want to talk because there is nothing to talk about. if both just talk and no one has any stance, i think the speaker of the house has to be specific about what he wants, so therefore, we could know what he can negotiate. >> elisabeth: he just put forward a bipartisan committee to come together and actually not just talk, as you said brian, but do something. how about not talk. i don't care if you tweet or talk. just do it.

>> steve: you're talking about the commission like the simpson-bowles commission who had good ideas for the president and he didn't do any of that stuff? unfortunately for the president he has so painted himself into a corner, he's going to have to cave. >> brian: i think at some level, this is a plan. this is a plan to get back the house. >> steve: it could be. but it's a bad plan because people are starting to say, wait a minute, you got to do something. also last week we had ann romney on in this area cooking up flapjacks. we were talking to her about how her husband -- >> brian: when which is a nickname for pancakes. >> steve: a short stack of them. how mitt romney was vilified during the run up to the election. but as it turns out issues he was right about a lot of stuff. remember how he was toasted for saying that russia is our number one geopolitical foe? right about that. >> brian: ann romney was right, those pancakes were not ready to be flipped. >> steve: you wouldn't listen.

>> brian: i'm listening to the prompter. it says elisabeth should say something now. >> good morning to you. at 3:00 o'clock eastern time, the president will officially announce his pick for the new head of the federal reserve. if confirmed, janet yellen would replace ben bernanke. so what would the economy look like under her leadership? we asked stuart varney for his take. >> janet yellen is likely to keep on printing money. the effect of printing $85 billion a month is to lower interest rates right down to the ground floor. that means when you go to a bank for a bank cd, you'll earn virtually nothing in interest. but when you go to get a mortgage, your mortgage rate will stay ultralow just above 4%. >> so who is yellen? she comes from academia. she earned her economics degree from yale. she's 67 years old and she would be the first woman ever to lead the fed and the first democrat since 1987. that announcement, 3:00 o'clock today. is the united states ready

to cut aid to egypt? this move has been considered since the egyptian military ousted president morsi. every year the united states provides egypt with about a billion and a half dollars in aid and most of that goes to military assistance. but the white house knocking down these claims this morning. the national security council say the u.s. assistance to that country will continue. caught on camera, masked men breaking into a television station and then setting it on fire. look at this. after knocking down the door, the guys poured gasoline all over the studio and then they lit a match. this happened in the maldives. the station was targeted over political tensions there. and talk about a date with death, there is a new wrist watch that claims to calculate the date of your death right down to the very second. fill out a health questionnaire, subtract your current age from the results, but would you buy this thing?

>> interesting to know when i'm going to die. that's the beauty of life. you don't know. you got to live every day like it could be your last. >> i want to die by surprise. [ laughter ] >> brian: he had a surprise party. >> elisabeth: i love that guy. >> i want to die by surprise, too. >> brian: no one tell me. >> it costs 60 bucks and goes on sale -- >> brian: i want someone to go, shake brian. is he dead? >> goes on sale in april. i don't want to know. >> steve: it's called the ticker. shouldn't it be called the stopwatch? >> it's so sad. >> brian: hey, if i want a reverse mortgage, i could time it to the day. i'll run out by tomorrow. what if it's wrong and you have no savings left and you have to live? >> elisabeth: can you get a refund? >> brian: i'm not sure. >> steve: they use scientific things to actually figure out when you're going to die. maria molina, every wednesday, has a science quiz for us and today is the day. >> yeah, that's right. today is the day. science trivia day. so i actually want to ask you

the question. but first before i do that, today's trivia question has something to do with something that's in the news and that's because today at approximately 3:21 p.m. eastern time, nasa spacecraft called juno is going to swing around the earth to gain speed to continue on its way to jupiter and supposed to get there in 2016 and it will be exploring that planet. cool stuff. lots going on in earth today. >> brian: true. >> the question is, how many moons does jupiter have? a, one, b, 25, or c, 63? >> elisabeth: i say b. >> brian: no, we got to do it family feud style. >> elisabeth: oh, okay. >> steve: i'm with her. b. >> brian: i'm thinking 25 as well. >> elisabeth: b for brian. >> steve: b. >> your answer is b? 25? the answer is c, 63 known moons. >> brian: no, it isn't. you're double counting. >> elisabeth: i'm sticking with 25. >> brian: i think you're wrong.

>> what's what we think. apparently the biggest one is almost half the diameter of planet earth. >> elisabeth: it blocks the other. >> brian: we'll call it mini earth. >> that's a good name. >> the real name is ganamane. >> steve: good job. that's the first time you stumped us in three weeks. >> thank you so much. let's go ahead and take a look at the weather conditions now across the country and did i go ahead and advance the map? no. >> brian: we've seen the country before. >> let's take a look at the weather conditions across the country and we want to go ahead and take a look at the coastal area of low pressure that's going to be tracking up the coast and today if you live across parts of north carolina right along the coast, parts of virginia, the state of maryland and even up into delaware, you're going to be dealing with a lot of heavy rain from this storm system and also very gusty winds, 50 miles per hour. it's going to be a stormy couple of days right along the coast. you'll have a rough surf and

also rip currents being a new york city, you should be seeing that rain as we head into tomorrow. again, a lot going on right along coastal areas. temperature wise, only in the 60s across the northeast. and it's going to feel a lot cooler across parts of north carolina because of the rain. you're talking three to five inches of rain possible out there. flooding could be an issue. again, that's right along coastal areas. temperature wise, in the 60s across parts of the northeast. 70 for your high in cleveland. in the center of the country, upper 70s for minneapolis and parts of kansas city. not bad. texas, into the 80s. still feeling like summer out there. let's head back to the studio. >> brian: let me tell you what's happening in sports, then we'll go to the big chair. good news, tampa had to win last night in order to stay alive in the post season, they did not win. the red sox come in the favorites and win this game 3-1. they advance in the playoffs. congratulations. these red sox were dead and buried and saying, break it up. totally revived the franchise

and are favorites to win the world series in my mind. tigers won last night. congratulations to them. more news out of boston. it isn't great news for the big slugger. while helping his nephew perfect his swing, the red sox david ortiz got a big surprise. one of the fast balls, to the groin or in his case, the cup. it sent the rocket packing. just goes to show you, you shouldn't play with children. they should play with other kids. that goes to show you, i should have told him, you only get in trouble when you play with children on television. titus, stay away. you think i'm bad? >> steve: did anybody wind up crying? >> brian: no, that's true. he got a little misty. >> steve: i would. what's coming up on your radio show? >> brian: so funny, we look at one of the people that helped me with my book will be on. one of the historians. martha mccallum will be on, as well as bill hemmer and congressman allen west will be joining us live. it's going to be fun as we break it all down. >> steve: allall right. >> elisabeth: coming up, a major warning about a popular weight

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discovered sprite speeds up the process of breaking down alcohol, making the effects of a hangover a little less pronounced. come to papa. [ laughter ] >> elisabeth: it's a true miracle. a baby born an amazing 35 days after his mom's water broke. although baby gideon weighed three pounds and born early, he's happy and healthy and with us now, rachel and jeff join us with gideon and their older son, his big brother, t.j. good morning to you all. >> good morning. >> elisabeth: this is -- i mean, truly a miracle. rachel, tell us, your water breaks and how long did they say you would have to hang on to sweet baby gideon in you? >> the hope was 48 hours. they said if we can hold 48 hours, that would give time for the steroids to work and let his lungs grow a little bit more. >> elisabeth: and jeff, you had to be ultimately so concerned.

i know you were trying to have a little baby so t.j. could be a big brother. when this happened, shocking, i'm sure. >> it was a bit shocking. it had happened with t.j. at 35 weeks, but it was a lot earlier this time and there were a lot more concerns because it was so early. >> elisabeth: gideon's got a good voice there. t.j., i know you're a good big brother. how is gideon's health now? >> how is gideon doing? >> he's doing great and he likes his big brother 'cause i give him a bottle in the car. [ laughter ] >> elisabeth: you are a spectacular big brother and i'm sure that bottle that you give him is keeping him nice and big. i know he had a six-month appointment. what did the doctor say, if you can share with us?

>> well the doctor said he's doing great. he's still small for his age, but developmentally, he's right on track and he's healthy and happy. >> elisabeth: it's certainly understandable why you guys are a loving family indeed. i'm sure when the birthday celebration comes around, that's going to be big. i'm sure t.j., who is dubbing down there, will have some plans for his little brother. how are you feeling, >> i'm feeling great. it was quite the journey to be e away from t.j., but it was all worth it in the end. >> elisabeth: jeff, were you and t.j. able to go visit rachel? >> when she was in the hospital, t.y. and i went pretty much every day after i finished working. >> elisabeth: one important question, t.j., before we go, what are you going to be for halloween out there? >> what are you going to be for halloween? >> mario. >> elisabeth: awesome. i love it. you're a great big brother. ravel, jeff, gideon and t.j.,

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>> steve: who is normal and ho is nuts.

>> brian: not between us. >> steve: that's right, because we all know we're both a little crazy. it's a question we ask dr. keith ablow once a week. he joins us from bean town. good morning to you. >> good to see you. i wish you would check in every day personally. >> brian: until the court orders it, i'm going to resist. >> don't even get out of bed without calling me. >> brian: let me give you the first e-mail. here it is, i have never been unemployed. i make a six figure salary, yet i have zero in savings, poor credit and home foreclosure on record. all of my own doing. am i nuts? >> six figures, no savings, foreclosure, you're crazy. why? because you're using money as a drug. it's no different than if you were calling me saying i have no savings, i've been spending all my money on heroin. whether you're been buying luxury items, you're treating emotional loneliness or

emptiness with purchases. you got to get back under control to get your finances in order. >> brian: you want my analysis? >> yes. >> brian: okay. i think that he at some level doesn't think he deserves the money and trying to spend himself poor. >> wow! i think that's a significant hourly rate you could be charging, brian. >> steve: dave ramsey would say the guy has a plan for a rainy day. here is another one. my husband and his 31-year-old daughter call each other at least twice a day every day. they did this even during the two weeks we were visiting her. some days they talk to each other on the phone five times a day. normal or nuts? >> okay. this one is easy. totally crazy. because it's nice to have a close family. awful us support closeness, but when closeness becomes dependency, that's a reason to inspect the relationship and say wow. i wonder if we even let outsiders into this family. i bet that's operative here. >> brian: here is the last one.

my 62-year-old dad is returning to college. is it completely nuts for him to request on campus housing? >> is it nuts? >> brian: yes. >> it's great! what could be more normal than being 62 and saying, i want to live on campus and restart my engines, restart my life? i love this guy. i want to meet this guy. i want to live in a double with this guy on campus. >> steve: you know what? i think i disagree with you on every one of them today. [ laughter ] >> that just means you have to stay after school in the ablow school of psychiatry. >> steve: we're on the couch right now. >> brian: i think adam sandler did a movie like that. >> steve: if you have a question for keith, e-mail us. put dr. keith in the subject line. thank you very much. >> i can't wait. >> steve: meanwhile, coming up, teachers at the same school getting sick, several with cancer. what the heck is going on at that school? brand-new details top of the

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shutdown. "fox & friends" starts, well, you know. >> this is kennely rogers ask -- kenny rogers and you are watching my show, "fox & friends". >> brian: he has a show now? >> steve: absolutely. he watches "fox & friends" every day. he watches the channel all day. he's been there since the beginning 17 years ago. of course, if you watched the after the show show, "fox & www.foxandfriends.com from yesterday, you will see elisabeth and heather and i sing with kenny rogers, "the gambler." >> brian: i auditioned and he asked me to go do radio. he told me a great hollywood story. you want me to share it? >> steve: sure. >> brian: when jane carson's second wife, they lived next door to each other. they used to go and play tennis with each other four times a week. imagine johnny carson knocking on your door saying let's go

play tennis. >> steve: that's the headline? johnny carson played tennis with the neighbor? >> brian: pretty much. it's just amazing that johnny is knocking on your door. hey, honey, johnny carson wants to play tennis. >> steve: all right. you miss a little, you miss a lot by not watching the after the show show. this morning as you wake up, this is a national disgrace. we're talking about the fact that due to the government shutdown, the best death benefits for military families, usually they got $100,000 gratuity, they call it, plus the families are given money to travel to dover, delaware. they're not getting that because of the shutdown. what's interesting is california republican duncan hintser says, wait a minute, we did fix that. we passed the pay our military act before the shutdown and that was supposed to fix it. but he says because of careless legal interpretation, they're not getting it.

he says this could be fixed just like that. watch. >> why did they make the decision to send back bodies in caskets from rented cargo planes that weren't even u.s. military planes? why did they buy an $80,000 toilet seats? why do they have program after program that does not work? the reason is they make bad decisions sometimes and this is one of those bad decisions and instead of just fessing up and saying sorry, we got this wrong, we're going to fix it, for some reason they're digging their heels in and i'm not sure why, frankly. because it's very easy for them to say look, we have three other lawyers here. they say we can do it, let's pay and get this over with. they can do that now, literally tonight and this money could be wire transferred in the morning to these families. it's that easy for them to fix this. they don't have to wait for congress. >> elisabeth: a sensible solution. i don't know if everyone knows this, i certainly didn't. he was a marine combat veteran, served in iraq and afghanistan. he said that this denial right

now to our military families is a middle finger to them. that's what he said. he says it's a slap in the face, a middle finger to them and it can be fixed and hasn't yet. >> brian: i tell you what, the pentagon is probably -- the day of the $4 million hammer are overt i'm just wondering, are they playing politics? because they did call 400,000 civilian workers back from furlough and say, we need you to come work. that's what chuck hagel did. i hope they're not getting involved in this mess and part of the maximizing pain effort that started with sequester and seems to be continuing now. >> steve: if he's saying careless legal interpretation, you could either blame government lawyers or just blame, you know, somebody who is trying to crack down so hard to inflict more pain. we were talking to mark sanford, the congressman now from south carolina. he said this administration is trying to make people feel this government shutdown just as they did with the sequester.

>> brian: pay a political price. >> steve: exactly. the army ranger organization leads the way fund is going to go ahead and provide the military death benefit during the shutdown. fisher house offered. ollie north's outfit offered. a lot of people came up and said, we got to give these people money and, in fact, four families will be showing up later today at dover, delaware for the official exchange. 15 family members for four soldiers and one marine killed in the last week in afghanistan. >> elisabeth: the head of fisher house will be joining us later in the hour to talk about this, too. but we're talking about the money that isn't available in some areas, but then shockingly is in others, right? this mechanical bull, national guard recruitment center there ordered this mechanical bull on monday. how much was it, brian? >> brian: 47,174. they say the national guard for utah says it's a great recruitment tool.

so they write the check on monday, but you just think that if it's all hands on deck, you're not buying a mechanical bull at a time in which we're not funding the government. >> steve: that's a lot of bull. especially given the fact that -- (mooing) -- thank you, sound effect guy. >> brian: it's a mechanical bull. again, total overstepped his boundary. >> steve: i think a machine actually played it. okay. while they're spending $50,000 on a fake bull, here is the good news, even though there is a government shutdown, congress' gym is open. we're talking about the gym for house members and the gym for senate members, however the gym for the people who work for them is closed. the rub, though, and there is a picture from inside -- and it's -- >> brian: the rub is no towels. >> elisabeth: that's not -- that's a live shot. >> steve: no towel service and senator lindsey graham said the joint is getting a little rank and yet, keep in mind, there are

a number of house members who live in their offices. so they need the shower there so that they can clean up. but they got to apparently use hand towels now. >> elisabeth: they can't push anything through, but they can do pushups. >> brian: do baby wipes. just baby wipes, you'll smell like a fresh bottom. >> elisabeth: are you speaking from experience? >> brian: i'm just saying. if you can't shower, you got to make adjustments. let's talk about one of the biggest disappointments i can remember in a long time. i'm embarrassed by our government. you have the speaker of the house saying absolutely nothing, taking questions after saying he wouldn't take questions. in the afternoon, the president of the united states after talking with the speaker and saying, i want to reiterate, i'm not negotiating. i am not talking. i am not giving in on anything until after you have the cr passed, continuing resolution, and you raise the debt ceiling. let's go talk to the press. at which time he takes no tough questions. but i was listening on our fox news radio app. i did not know that the president of the united states didn't take any questions from

anyone in television, not that the tv people know more than radio or print, but the people that have been going directly at jay carney and challenging him from nbc, cbs, whether it's major garrett or chuck todd or jonathon karl or ed henry, i guess he's a little mad at them because of that, the president of the united states doesn't call on any of them when it comes to getting a question out. >> elisabeth: maybe our expectations are too high. he's not negotiating with congress. he's not talking to republicans. he doesn't want anything to be accomplished. why would we expect he would answer hard questions to television media outlets? maybe we should give up on the idea of him answering anything. >> steve: and at one point the president said i'm just going through my list, guys, talk to jay, like jay carney runs the white house. >> brian: he giggled in the corner. >> steve: look, the president can decide exactly who he wants to, but he bypassed the front row because main stream media, just like you take a look at the public opinion polls, blaming both sides for the government

shutdown. the latest "washington post" poll said that 70% of people blame republicans and 60 some percent blame democrats. i don't think they like that whole blame both sides thing. >> brian: what's some of the questions that you would have asked? we've been getting a lot of your tweets. one question i'd like to ask, mr. president, you said never in our history have we held the country ransom on the debt creeling and the fair credit and faith of our government but it's not true. ronald reagan in '85 they did. they got very important price controls, spending controls put into our legislation. i didn't know this, but in 1997 with clinton and newt gingrich, they had a capital gains cut. >> elisabeth: they made it work. >> brian: we came back and were on turbo speed. they used it to force change. >> elisabeth: this isn't negotiation language that's been used. no questions were asked about the hostile language that is used. saying ransom, nuclear bomb, chaos, disaster, when it comes

to the build-up of discussion. is this the same president who used these terms, along with those in his administration, that we heard from after tragedies long ago where he said that the hate language that it's divisive, that we should be peace makers. where are you now and why is this language being used against your own house? >> steve: remember when the president of the united states, now president, he was a senator and running and said, i'm going to change the tone in washington. you look at those words and you think, wait. the tone has never, ever been worse. of course, for the last ten days now, the president has spent pretty much every opportunity at a microphone to bad mouth the republicans. >> brian: here is what you've said, questions that you wanted asked. tim wants to know, why is it, mr. president, okay to raise the debt ceiling now but a failure of leadership to raise it in 2006 because we're adding to the debt of the country? >> elisabeth: kathleen on

facebook would ask the president, why couldn't i keep my health care plan that i liked? how am i saving with the 50% increase? >> steve: tracy would have asked, what was the motivation behind delaying obamacare for businesses and not citizens? by the way, yesterday at the press conference, not a single question about the affordable care act, which as we know so far has not been working out smoothly. >> brian: right. last thing, the president did leave the door open a little bit saying he might be open to a short-term raise in order to get additional time to negotiate. >> elisabeth: with conditions. >> steve: which means he's going to have to cave, which it's going to bug him. meanwhile, she's got the headlines. >> good morning. other stuff going on in the world. that undercover detective who is now under arrest for his involvement in the attack of an suv driver right in front of his wife and child will appear in a new york city court later today. the 32-year-old is a ten-year veteran of the nypd. he originally claimed he wasn't

involved in the beatdown. but investigators say they've got video of him smashing the back window of that suv. cops are still looking for four other suspects. eight democratic members of the house posing for pictures while being arrested during an immigration rally on the national mall. right before getting cuffed, charlie rangel tweeted this out. rocks green, crowley, lewis and others about to get arrested. rangel's tweet included this video clip that he posted on-line. the rally's purpose? to try to push republicans to hold a vote on stalled immigration reform. there is the video. a heart warming reunion between an airman and his best friends is going viral. >> where's daddy? is that daddy? is that daddy? is that your daddy? >> that's odie right there and he could barely contain his excitement after his owner returned home from deployment.

amazing how animals will remember. that is it. i'll see you in a little bit. >> steve: man's best friend. >> brian: eating a lot of push from kaitlyn to get another dog. should i push back? >> steve: you have one dog and it's too much work. >> brian: so i should hold firm? >> steve: you're the father. you're the daddy. >> brian: you're right. >> steve: coming up straight ahead, felons looking for work look no further. democrats in illinois say their state is open for business and no questions will be asked about your past. >> elisabeth: then a pilot gets sick and can't land the plane. what happens when a passenger takes the controls? we're about to find out. ♪ heart healthy, huh?!

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>> brian: for the families of the five american heros killed in the line of duty this week, the tragedy is about to cut deeper. the department of defense now claiming it does not currently have the authority to pay death gratuities and other key benefits for the survivors of service members killed in action due to the government shutdown. that means families of our fallen soldiers will not see their loved ones caskets returned from war and not see any money to help with funeral expenses. it should be afforded to them. fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr. joins us now. this was -- everybody was talking about this on the floor of the house and senate yesterday. what's the reality? is there money there? >> of course there is money there and ollie north pointed out that was an executive order of the president that could be solved right now. >> brian: two seconds. >> it could go to the desk. that statement by the department of defense is one of the most coldest, most jaded, most political statements i've ever seen in my life. when we see these images of

caskets being carried by brave other young marines, we say to ourselves in this country, what are our priorities? it's $100,000 so-called death gratuity. it was established in 1908. it was increased after 9-11 when so many people lost their lives in 9-11 received much larger settlements from the government and we said as a nation, we need to do better for the people who serve for us in the military and die. now we're saying to those people, we can't get you to dover air force base. we can't front you funeral expenses. we can't get you the money you need to bring family members to a location to grieve and we say that your service is not as important as other things, including providing security for an immigration demonstration on the mall in which congressmen throw themselves into cameras so they can get arrested. that's not important. you're not important. your lives are unimportant. we'll pay you when we get a

chance. in some ways it's a death knell of what the greatest generation stands for in this country. in some ways it really says, in closing a government down, we're telling what our true priorities are and it's certainly not the lives of our troops in this country. >> brian: because money has been there for the pentagon to put where it belongs and to get through and by the way, by the power of chuck hagel, as secretary of defense, he called back civilian workers. so there is things that can be done. >> chuck hagel should hang his head in shame today. there has to be a face to the act. there has to be a person attached to something that is so villainous, so cruel, so despicable, so strange and alien to our culture as americans, our identity as americans, identity as humans to say we're not going to help you and we're going to call on people like the fisher foundation and ollie north's foundation and sean hannity and people like that to step in to the breach.

it's not american. i don't know how i can communicate it in a way that explains the full depth of all americans' emotions about this. >> brian: we know chuck hagel served the country valiantly. you would think he would be the first to step up. >> he has. the president can solve it today. sign an executive order. restore this money. >> brian: ken fisher will be here at the bottom of the hour to talk about what the families really need. thanks so much. ten minutes before the bottom of the hour. coming up next, teachers at the same school getting sick. some diagnosed with cancer. what is going on? a parent joins us with some major developments in this case of the school that's getting you sick. and it's a story we told you about last week. a school puts a ban on hump day? >> guess what today is. >> hump day. >> woohoo! >> brian: right. but that's what today is. hump day. coming up next, the big boost

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>> steve: quick headlines for you. job seekers in illinois will no longer be asked about their criminal past when they're applying for state jobs. democratic governor pat quinn just signed off on the new law. state agencies can no longer do background checks. they can, but only later in the hiring process. that seems kind of scary. tom houston texans shared a secret with -- tom hanks shared a secret with the world. >> i went to the doctor and he said you know those high sugar

numbers you had when you were 36? well, you graduated. you got two 2 diabetes, young man. >> steve: the 57-year-old actor revealed he had been struggling with high blood sugar for years. he says the weight he's gained and lost for movie roles could be a big factor. elisabeth, over to you. >> elisabeth: thanks, steve. any parent's worst nightmare, classroom putting their kids at risk for cancer. teachers at one california middle school say toxic dirt and mold is making them sick. the superintendent came under pressure from parents agreeing to move the classroom. this woman has a 12-year-old at the school in mal do you and joins us -- malibu and joins us now. how did you realize there was an issue with mold or soil at the school? >> elisabeth, teachers had sent out a letter in the last week or so which parents found out about which apparently laid out a whole bunch of concerns, including thyroid cancer, mold

issues, headaches and the rumors started to flow and as you know as a parent, when things like that happen, it becomes very concerning. so i spoke before the school board on thursday night and rated the issue and suddenly the whole thing exploded. >> elisabeth: did your son or any of his friends experience symptoms at all that you're aware of? >> other than not want to go get up in the morning for school, no. we haven't. so far none of his friends or other folks had any issues that we can determine. but we hope that the school district will do testing that they need to do and we're very excited actually that last night they agreed to move the kids out of the affected building. >> elisabeth: that was a result of the meeting last night with the superintendent. she actually came and said, we're going to move 11 classrooms who what's deemed the safer site. there was a powerful moment in the meeting where all the parents were asked if their kids had symptoms and how many

responded? >> well, it was very powerful. we had about i'd say 60 or 70 parents raise their hands with what they thought their kids had migraines at one point during the year or the past. it was an emotional moment. it really points to the fact that we've got to find out and get to the bottom of it. >> elisabeth: they've agreed to move the classrooms for now. does that make you feel better and do you think you'll get the results on future soil testing and mold? >> well, we're going to keep their feet to the fire and i think we'll find out more. you never quite know in these kinds of situations whether or not you're going to get all the information, but we have the intention of the school district. we've organized the community, and we're hopeful that we'll be able to get everything we need. right now i feel safe taking my child to school. >> elisabeth: that's certainly a great feeling. seth, thanks for being with us today. that's great parent community speaking up for their kids. we'll keep an eye on it.

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>> elisabeth: welcome back. just about half past the hour. ladies, you got to come watch this. a guy gets a girl's number in starbucks, then sends her this video as a follow-up. ♪ >> elisabeth: he never says anything. he just gives a look. we don't know if it worked or not for her. you can see the look. it's become an internet sensation after her friend posted it on instagram. and now everybody is copying it, using the hash tag starbucks.

[ laughter ] >> brian: no! no! >> steve: a unicorn? >> elisabeth: are they real? >> steve: yeah, at greg gutfeld filled's house he has unicorns. >> steve: you know what? i think probably it's become a video sensation because it's so easy to do. in fact, maria molina, is it true you now have your own? >> yes, i have my own starbucks drake hands video. we shot it this morning. if you want to look at it now. [ laughter ] >> elisabeth: have you done this before? >> steve: unlike the other video, she's moving the map with the clicker. >> elisabeth: going national. >> i really have a feeling that i'm going to regret this.

>> brian: your move, roker. >> we'll see what they do over there. maybe they can go ahead and make their own video. >> steve: you beat him to the punch. >> elisabeth: well done. >> thanks. i hope you enjoyed it very much. we'll see how that goes in my career coming up in ten years. >> brian: not going anywhere. >> steve: are you doing the weather now? >> yeah. we're going to go ahead and do weather now. we actually do have an area of low pressure that we're tracking. this storm system is heading up the coast and it's going to be producing a lot of heavy rain afoot across sections of north carolina president wind will be an issue. it's starting to pick up a little bit in new york city, as you can tell. we're talking wind gusts around 15 miles per hour. the forecast is that this storm system is going to be moving very slowly over the next several days. so it is here for today, for tomorrow, for friday, and even into the weekend for so many of you. so we're talking three to five inches of rain in the forecast. winds up to 15 miles per hour. rough surf and rip currents will

be a concern along coastal areas and coastal flooding, some watches are in effect as well. temperature wise, we're talking 60s across parts of the northeast. 65 for the high in new york city. over in cleveland, you'll be in the low 07s. across the center of the country, it's so mild for this time of year. 70s for minneapolis, for places like kansas city. and into texas, widespread 80s. the northwest out there across parts of the northern rockies, you have another storm system arriving. temperatures are chilly. rain and snow is in the forecast. let's head back inside. >> steve: all right. thank you very much. >> elisabeth: thanks, maria. now we're going to head over with our heather nauert. >> wipinging sweat off his brow. got some headlines now. 3:00 o'clock eastern time today, the president will officially announce his new pick to head the federal reserve. if confirmed, janet yellen would

replace bennett cunningham better than. what would the economy look like under her leadership? here is stuart varney. >> janet yellen is likely to keep on printing money. the effect of printing $85 billion a month is to lower interest rates right down to the ground floor. that means when you go to a bank for a bank cd, you'll earn virtually nothing in interest. but when you go to get a mortgage, your mortgage rate will stay ultralow, just about 4%. >> that was an exclusive interview with brian bruin. really hard to get, right, brian? yellen comes from academia. she earned her economics degree from yale. the 67-year-old would be the first woman to ever lead the fed and the first democrat since 1987. a little slow in the upswing there, kilmeade. >> brian: i know. it was my fault. i was day dreaming. >> elisabeth: he was working on his look. >> brian: yes. i was trying to think of a way to seduce somebody. [ laughter ] i know this wouldn't work.

>> got some other stuff going on. a passenger, no flying experience, safely lands a plane when the pilot dies at the controls mid flight. two flight instructors were rushed to the airport to direct the passenger over the radio. the guy was the only passenger on board a small plane and he managed to land it safely. check your calendar for this. >> listen, get what today is. >> it's hump day. >> woohoo! >> today is wednesday. it's also known as hump day. geico certainly has something to celebrate. last week we told but a school in connecticut banning that phrase because it was getting too out of hand, an administrator said. since then, geico's youtube view have surged. those are your headlines. >> steve: mike, mike, mike. >> brian: we love when they buy time on our show. >> steve: sure. and i have a feeling it's easier to sign up on-line with geico.

>> brian: i hope so. geico is still in business. >> steve: put away your cameras or you might get arrested on the spot. that is the message some senior citizens claim they got outside yellowstone national park. armed park rangers refusing to let anyone lay eyes on old faithful because of the government shutdown. pat is one of those tourists and joins us from massachusetts today. pat, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: it sounds like you had a funning day bus tour -- fun nine-day bus tour planned that the highlight was yellowstone. as soon as you got there, government shutdown pretty much shut you down, didn't it? >> that's correct. >> steve: tell me how you were treated by the national park service rangers. >> well, we got in day one on monday and the shutdown had not occurred, but we were warned by the rangers and the staff at old faithful that it was coming. we got up tuesday morning and said, well, we can tour. we're just going to drive around

and take pictures and we won't have the usual traffic jam. we were out probably less than an hour and came across a beautiful herd of bison. we got out to take pictures and no sooner did we get out of the bus than a ranger came along and she asked everybody to cross back -- cross the street and get in the bus. >> steve: pat, when you heard that, you must have thought, she's got to be kidding. i'm just taking a picture. >> well, that's what we all said. and we had australian, europeans. we had all come a long way. i had come from boston. i had never seen a herd of bison. we couldn't believe it. >> steve: then eventually you wound up going up toward old faithful and whenever old faithful was about to blow, the park rangers came out to keep you from doing what? >> that's correct. we had to go back to old faithful. we were told to get in the bus

and get back. and saw horses were put in front of old faithful. and ten to 15 minutes prior to her eruption, you would see four by fours and rangers coming to that area. and you could not go outside to take pictures of old faithful. every ranger out there was armed at that time. from tuesday on, any park ranger i saw was carrying a gun. >> steve: did they overdo it, because i know that one of the tour guides said that the park rangers were exhibiting what he referred to as gestapo tactics. >> well, that was my guide tour. lovely guide named gordon. he had been a tour guide for ten years. he asked her, can't we just take pictures? we're not walking on trails. we're not doing anything. and the ranger's answer was, you are recreating. and he said, well, i just paid $300 to come through the gate. i guess that's a word,

recreating. and he felt we weren't recreating. he thought we were just observing. so she said no. you get back in the bus and literally, the only way you could see old faithful was from the second floor porch. you had to do it from the inside of the inn. >> steve: doesn't seem quite right. i know a lot of foreign tourists thought they were under arrest. they didn't understand how friendly we are here in the united states. >> no, they were very scared. there was an asian group that evening and there were rangers walking in the lobby armed in the evening. and a group went up to the desk and asked if they could go outside. were they under arrest. you can imagine, they were terrorized. you're in another country, you don't speak the language. it really was concerning. you could feel the element of fear. >> steve: pat, thank you very much for joining us today from massachusetts telling your story. by the way, folks, we did reach out to the national park service and nobody could be reached for comment because, as you know, there is a government shutdown

everywhere except old faithful. >> brian: right. >> steve: what a story! meanwhile, he's an american hero. ken fisher, head of fisher house, is stepping up to help pay military death benefits because our government is refuse to go do that. he joins us in a matter of moments. >> brian: then you've seen them compete on halloween wars. mark evan has a lesson in pumpkin carving for all of you this morning. >> elisabeth: how fun. >> steve: nice. ♪

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plentiful and ripe to carve and decorate for halloween. here to show us some tips and tricks is pumpkin carving expert and former winner of "halloween wars," mark evans. good morning. >> good morning. >> steve: 'tis the season to do some carving. >> great weather for it. >> elisabeth: do you have basic tips? do you have any pumpkin prep? how do you know what tools to use? i'm always afraid to use sharp knives. >> it's safer to use a sharp knife than a dull knife. >> brian: what's a sharp knife. >> steve: wait a minute! what's a sharp knife? >> i like using a sharp kitchen knife. you can go right in with that. something like this is called ally knoll yum cutter. that's go prosecutor the etching -- that's great for the etching technique. great for doing shallow cuts. that's a sculpting tool. we use the clay ribbons for doing three dimensional sculpted pumpkins.

>> brian: you're saying don't just do the traditional buck teeth, circle mouth and triangle eyes? >> yeah. it's fun to do imagination. i like to print out references and images to be inspired by. >> brian: did you wing that or have a tracer? >> i had some photos of faces and looked at them for inspiration. >> brian: really? >> yeah. >> elisabeth: and you said that we can actually use a paper to be able to trace our design, right? >> sure. you can put a paper on there and poke holes through it to transfer it. >> i printed one out. this is my printout. i want to carve this. >> steve: get cracking. let's go. >> i have outlined this. >> use one of these. >> steve: what are the big carveouts in the back for? >> that's so you can open it up and -- let's see. >> elisabeth: did i carve on the back? whoops. >> you can get in there and start hollowing it out.

>> brian: how do you stop kids from smashing your pumpkins when you're not home? >> i don't leave them out overnight. the pumpkins will last longer if you wrap them up at night and refrigerate them. >> steve: what about the squirrels? i got squirrel problems. >> if you leave them outside, the squirrels will eat them. >> steve: look at this! >> i like to treat them with a little bit of lemon juice or vinegar will help prevent oxidation, help it last a little longer. >> brian: how long until your pumpkin can no longer be a pie? if i made a decision to not make this pie. >> the carving pumpkins we use are not as sweet as sugar pumpkins. they're not good to make. >> when should we put out our pumpkins? >> a few days before halloween is the best time. >> brian: and hope there is not a storm. >> steve: thank you very much. "halloween wars" airs sunday at

night on the food network. >> brian: who loves my pumpkin? there you go. >> steve: he's out of his gourd. [ laughter ] coming up, he's an american hero -- >> brian: what wants elisabeth's? >> steve: the head of the fisher house is stepping up to pay death military benefits because our government refused. ken is here next. let's check in with martha to preview what happens in a few minute. >> thank you very much. the bodies of fallen soldiers and marines will be flown home to dover today as congress attempts to give their families the benefits that they have now been denied thanks to the shutdown. we're going to go live to capitol hill. there is a vote on this this morning. senator rand paul will be joining us. and the irs gets ready to get its fingers into health care, folks. what's that going to mean? congressman darrell issa joins us as well. bill and i will see you right here at the top of the hour i'm . my body doesn't work the way it used to. past my prime? i'm a victim of a slowin?

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>> brian: we've been telling you all morning long that the pentagon's decision to freeze the death benefits of the families of service members killed in action that's deplorable there needs to be action. >> elisabeth: the private sector is stepping up to help. joining us, ken fisher, chairman and ceo of fisher house. thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having me. >> elisabeth: obviously this is devastating information for americans and certainly the families of those that lost their loved ones. >> it's unconscionable. when you think about the sacrifices that have been made for this country, when those men and women raised their right hand, they take an oath. we as americans also take an oath to take care of them if they're wounded, whether it's physical or mental and to take home.f their families if they >> steve: we're taking a look at some of the -- the five who were

killed, four soldiers and one marine in the last week in afghanistan. what is fisher house going to do for their families? >> we're going to bridge the gap until sanity rules in washington and the president and congress get in a room and straighten this out. fisher house will bridge the gap. >> steve: which means? >> we will offer these families the 100,000 that they should have received within the first 36 hours until the shutdown ends, or until temporary legislation is enacted to fun this now while the shutdown exists. >> brian: there is another thing, traveling to meet your loved one at dover or anywhere else. you have a hero miles program that you can tap into because a lot of people say what do i do with all these miles? they can donate them to. how do we go about giving our miles to you. >> fisherhouse.org. we got a hero miles program bar that you can hit. it will tell you exactly what to do, how to do it.

we bank the miles even if they're going to expire the day before. if we get them, if you donate them to us, we can bank them, the expiration goes away. >> elisabeth: it doesn't affect the expiration. what message is being sent right now to military families, those on active duty and ultimately americans? >> well, unfortunately, it's that the government is not doing what it should be doing. and unfortunately, these men and women, 1% of this population raised their hand and go and defend this nation. they deserve more than they're getting right now. >> steve: you know what? the republicans say look, we thought this was included in the pay our military act, but duncan hunter referred to it as a careless legal interpretation of the law that is causing this snafu. >> this is more rhetoric going back and forth. blame over here, blame over there. there is enough blame to go

around. but in the end, the families are still suffering. >> brian: in the end, we always conclude that fisher house is one of the great american stories. showing benevolence and caring and fisherhouse.org is how to become part of that success story. >> thank you. >> elisabeth: true hero. >> thank you. >> steve: thanks for doing what the government won't. >> thank you. >> steve: right back. ♪

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>> steve: all right. tomorrow on the program, you'll meet some americans who found work by watching this program. cheryl casone is here with some "fox & friends" success stories.

>> brian: we also have some huge guests booked and we'll get some resolve to do what's happening with the men and women who lost their lives in battle and those who are wounded. ken fisher will talk to us in the after the show show. >> elisabeth: have a great day. bill: thank you, guys. good morn, everybody. it is day nine of the partial shutdown and a shutdown insult and outrage today. families of american troops paying the ultimate price for their country, now told bit pentagon they will not get the benefit that is owed to them. that benefit is about $100,000. the question this morning is, who made this decision? i'm bill hemmer. as we roll on here in "america's newsroom" and good morning at home. martha: that is something we'll try to figure out this morning. good morning, everybody. the bodies of fallen soldiers and marines will be flown home today from afghanistan. they will arrive at dover air force base but the families have to pay for their own trip to go pick up the loved