hannity live.fox news.com. don't r don't forget, start your day weekday morning with "fox and friends". we'll be back here tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. fair, balanced, and unafr d unafraid, greta goes on the record right now. a bunch of truckers are gassing up trucks. they're taking to the highway and preparing to jam the d.c. beltway, now, these angry truckers are furious with washington, and when they get here, they're going to find more chaos on the hill than on the highway. now, we're going to talk to one of those grain truckers tonight, but right now a bill to restore death benefits to the families of our fallen troops finally heading to the president. get this. everyone is trying to stop the bad treatment to military families, a problem that they, the politicians created. >> it took the president nine days before he finally ordered

the department of defense to come up with a work-around. >> the department of defense in consultation with the office of management and budget developed a solution overnight. >> we actually passed legislation that would reopen that stream of funding so that these families can get the benefits they deserve. >> our defense took care of everything and so this issue is largely moot. it's clear the action on this legislation is now for show here. >> for that contract it obligates itself to reimburse the fisher house upon the reopening of the government. so it's not just the fisher house taking on the sole responsibility in perpetuity for making these payments. >> it does need legislation. >> it does not need new legislation. when it gets attention, lawmakers rush to propose a fix when there is an obvious available fix to avoid all of these negative consequences. open the government. >> a moments ago republican

senator tom coburn opening this scathing legislation. it's the spoken will of congress that we deliver immediate assistance to the fallen members. kale on the president to sign this necessary legislation without delay. anything less would be a dereliction of duty by our commander in chief. karl rove is joining us. nice to see you, karl. >> nice to see you, greta. >> do you think it's a do over since it took nine days for the politicians to wake up for what they were doing to the families of these fallen soldiers? >> i think this was callusness and insensitivity on the part of the press secretary, but thing frankly we've seen way too much of that over the last couple of weeks. remember, robert hill, the undersecretary of defense, the controller of the defense department, had raised this as a

problem before the shutdown. congress -- the house passed a bill to provide for funding for the military. the sponsors of the bill, including buck mckee and the m armchair of the armed services committee was passed, signed by the president. nowhere during that time did the department of defense say we don't think this solves the problem, nor when the president signed it. then this week we have five dead americans returned home. the family is not girn the den benefits, housing allowance, burial assistance. and then and only then do we have jay carney say, oh, as soon as the president found out, he did something about it but he won't say when the president found out about it. then we find out white house aides knew about it for several days. the whole process stinks.

the secretary of defense screwed up, omb, white house aides screw up and now jay carney is busily pointing fingers everywhere else. congress solved it once. they can solve it twice. maybe the second time the administration will accept the fix. >> you know what's so appalling about it is the first time i heard about it, i almost fell over. you heard about the four soldiers coming back to dover. i'm sure the family doesn't have extra cash lying around. what were we going do? ups the remains home? what were they thinking? every single american, if we had learned about this, we would have jumped on it to get the money to try to help pay for this. for our government to spend nine days letting this fall through the cracks and then for jay carney to say it needs necessary because they could do it with some sort of private deal with a private organization, you know, it's shocking. >> well, let's compliment fisher house and particularly ken fisher for stepping forward on this in order to do what the

united states government on behalf of the grateful american people should be and ought to be doing. i thought senator corn anyone hit absolutely the right note. it is the moral obligation of the government to fulfill it. led by a combat veteran. an iraq and combat veteran. duncan hunter jr. thought they had solved the problem. why they didn't speak up is beyond me and i've got to tell you. their unnamed white house aides today, i hope the president is angry with them because if it is true that white house aides knew about this for several days before this told the president at some point that we still don't know what it is, those white house aides have something to account for too. their job is to serve the president and they ill-served the president. of course, the president ill-served the country. i do think, i've become convinced the administration is looking for cheesy little ways like this to make the shutdown hurt even more we saw it with the allowing of the immigration rally on the national mall, but

having park rangers try and turn away honor veterans who want to visit the open-air world war ii memorial. that just makes no sense at all. >> the reason they're so attracted to the white house is it has now passed the senate and it's passed the house and the senate and president obama said he wasn't going to sign piecemeal legislation and now they want to handle it so he doesn't have to sign it. that's a pretty ugly scenario. >> yeah, but the president already signed the so-called piecemeal piece of legislation that. was the bill passed after the shutdown began that guarantee thad military -- our uniformed military would be paid, and according to the sponsors of that measure, that the death benefit would be paid. the president -- i don't get this. the president says i will never sign a piecemeal measure, don't send them, i'll veto them, but he's done so. let's get rid of the politics, the show manship and grandstanding and try to get the

problem solved. the president is the leader of the country. it's his responsibility to be the, you know, sort of the person that provides the lubrication, who provides the leadership, who provides the, you know, ability for everyone to come together and it's about time he started doing so. >> well, i think the american outrage and the american outrage that provoked this, i think it's our way of saying, you know, that we're sorry what has happened to these families and i hope the families understand it. let me turn to another issue. just a short time ago a meeting ended at the white house and i've got to two readouts. the white house said good meeting and the speakers said constructive dialogue but that doesn't help me out much better. any idea on this meeting? of course, kevin mccarthy who's a whip, he's going to be here in a minute hchl e with us there. but your thoughts on this meeting. >> well, i think, frankly, this is a good report from both side because the president didn't insist upon things, the congress is trying to keep -- the house is trying to keep the line of communication open. let's see if there's some

constructive movement. i thought it was very interesting yesterday when congressman paul ryan wrote an op-ed in "the wall street journal" in which he basically said to the president, mr. president, we're in essence willing to raid the debt ceiling now if there is a -- if there are long-term spending reductions in entitlement spending, which is what's eating our lunch when it comes to the deficit. its going to get simply worse. and, mr. president, there are some areas where we can find agreement. what about means testing weltier seniors? warren buffett ought to be paying more than a working stiff who dug ditches or waited tables. we ought to make federal employees pay roughly the same percentage of their salary toward their retirements as workers in the private sector do. he said, mr. president, these are all your proposals. why don't we start with your proposals and embody them in the debt increases. i thought it was a very artful

way to the president to say we can find a reasonable way do it. we'll take your ideas, match them with some others, and the country will be better off for it. >> well, we have a lot more on this tonight because there's so muchen certainty in washington about what's happening because these meetings are going back and forth. they're scurrying back and forth. >> but they're meeting. >> yes, they're meeting? that's a good sign. after the president said for seven or eight days, i'm never going to negotiate, i'm never going to negotiate, he realizes to solve this problem he's going do what any liter does and that's negotiate. >> karl, thank you. always nice to see you. >> you bet. thank you, greta. >> okay, viewers, it's your chance to tell us what you think. facebook or tweet me. use #greta. up next, barbara bush. also each night to week to celebrate our 7:00 prime

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bush. >> hi, greta. george and i are here. we want to wish you the very, very best on your new program. >> i'm so excite thad you're calling in. the former president, he's good? >> everything is good. everything is good. weather's great here. chilly, cold, but we go back to texas this week. george wants to congratulate you too. one minute. here he is. >> okay. >> greta, we miss you. >> i miss you, mr. president. it's always nice to talk to you sir. >> nice talking to you. we love you and we wish you well. >> thank you very much. you know, tomorrow night i'm going to see your son. >> are you? where? >> the points of light charity. >> oh. good. >> good seeing you. in fact, governor christie is getting one of the awards? >> oh, really? fantastic.

nice talking with you. >> it's going to be fun. >> where are you right now? >> i'm in washington. i'm on our brand-new set. you know what? you'll love this, mr. president. we have brand-new studio. i don't know what fox did right. new colors, new graphics, brand-new time. i don't know what happened. we never thought we'd get out at 10:00 p.m. not that i wanted to get out of it. but this is fun. >> wonderful. >> thank you. >> all right. bye-bye. >> good-bye. mrs. bush, you still there? i guess i've lost her as well. obviously that was the former first family. tomorrow night is a big charity in washington, a charity that president bush started many years ago. that's sort of fun to encourage people to volunteer. so thank you to both of them. coming up, tomorrow's a big day, and here in washington, it's not just a big charity

event. thousands of truckers descending upon washington and they're going to tie washington up in knots. what do they intend to do? find out from one of the truckers. also, get who's calling in? the otr, "on the record" staff surprises me with the call. i knew about the first call from president bush and mrs. bush, but i have no idea who's going to call next. you can guess by usingi

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strapping cameras onto their helmets and then jumping off a bridge. now, if that's not scary enough, they do it again, but this time from a hot air balloon. and speaking of scary, 12 riders stranded 150 feet in the air for more than two hours on a e universal studio roller coaster. crews worked through the night to get the riders off safely. then today, another glitch causing the ride to get stuck again. and then have you ever wanted to do this? an angry commuter kicks a woman off the train for holds up the train. and paul mccartney surprises tourists with a concert in times square. ♪ mccartney taking twitter to get fans to come together for the performance, and the crowd definitely showed up despite the london-like weather. maybe sir paul will come to d.c.

next. washington could use some of that come together stuff. that's what we're watching tonight. coming up, get ready, washington. thousands of angry truckers are headed this way, and there's going to be trouble because they plan to jam our beltway. you're going to hear from the truckers next.

greta, we're at a truck stop in virginia. as you can see now, the convoy hasn't arrived but the truckers are coming late tonight into the early morning hours and we'll be right here on the ground when it all happens. that convoy is set up for the nation's capitol. one goal in mind. one big traffic nightmare. >> tomorrow thousands of angry truckers will protest by clogging the d.c. beltway. j.b. has more. nice to see you, j.b.

>> nice to be on the show. i appreciate the opportunity to be here. >> so, tell me, sir, why are the truckers coming to washington to protest? what's your protest? >> well, greta, first and foremost, we are americans. the things that are happening in this country are beyond what we could believe that would exist when we were growing up to our right, and i just cannot believe that it's taken this long for people to take a stand. we're joining with everybody in d.c. a peaceful protest to express our first amendment right. >> two questions. one, do you expect to leave the beltway and come into downtown d.c. with those big trucks, number one, and number two, is there a specific issue that, you know, that's near and dear to your heart? >> yes, ma'am. we -- we have the right to be

able to travel into the capitol mall. we'll be adhering to all laws, all travel laws as we should and we do not promote anything beyond that. we do have a list of the what we have put out there on ridefortheconstitution.org which consists of some constitutional issues and some specific trucking issues that i myself put together a conference call with drivers from all across the country and from various areas within the industry. >> how many trucks do you expect to participate beginning tomorrow? >> you know, greta, that's always the -- that's always the magic question. you never really know exactly until the time when it happens. i mean you can have people that say, yes, yes, and feel dedicated and committed, but until it actually happens, it's a nice surprise. >> how many have committed to

you? i'm sure you've had conversations. what's your sort of estimate, your rough estimate? >> well, i know that there's going to be quite a large number from virginia. that's the main staging area. we do have drivers, i believe, from new jersey that are going to be coming. we have a contingency from pennsylvania here, which i've been very proud to have been a part of in '08 in the fuel protest. and i believe they're actually getting an escort from some bikers that are going to ride down with them. >> well, you know, it's going to change the dynamic. first of all, if you're on the beltway, that does add, you know, quite a situation for commuters in the city. if you plan to come into the city, that will make it even more, let's say, unusual in terms of traffic. is there any plan to come in? i know you have a right to drive in certain areas, but do you plan to? >> what we'd like to do is just

make sure that people know we are exercising our first amendment right, our constitutional rights. we're not coming in to cause any violence or disrupt anything, we're just coming in to make our voice heard that we have the right to do this and we're not going to allow people to take that away from us. >> is this going to be -- is this going to go on through the weekend, right? >> yes, ma'am. there is information that we've got posted on, again, ridefortheconstitution org and there's a video that we put out that show as what we've got, three shifts of drivers going starting tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. >> there was one thing i read, that there was some group that was going to arrest members of congress or wanted the president removed from office. are you behind any of that discussion at all? >> ma'am, that -- from my understanding and what i've been informed is -- was one person's

personal opinions who took advantage of a media outlet. >> so that's not going to happen. >> no, ma'am. we're not -- will not put up with that. >> good. we got that one cleared up. j.b., thank you. >> yes, ma'am. >> we'll all be walking tomorrow probably. thank you, j.b. coming up, kevin mccarthy was at

get ready. new world leader kidnap, an update on the biker road rage case. get ready. that country's prime minister briefly kidnapped. militia gunmen snatching the prime minister from his hotel and several hours later members of another militia rescuing him. it appears to be a retaliation

for the taking of an al qaeda lead jeer and to new york city, the confrontation between a motorcycle mob and an suv driver. another has been charged with gang assault. and games, well, they're going to go on. they'll go on at military service academies through olkt. the shutdown threatened to stop activities at academies. both army, and navy are set to play on saturday. and it's not just the football games. you may soon be able to go to some national parks soon. obama administration says it will allow states -- did you hear that, states "to reopen since the shutdown. house republican leaders meeting with president obama. so what happened? house majority whip kevin mccarthy was at the white house and he joins us. nice to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> so what can you tell me? >> well, we had a very frank discussion. we had a difference of opinion, but i actually believe the

discussion was positive and we're continuing and we're not done. we're going to continue to work through the night, trying to solve these problems. we offered to the president. we said we would do a temporary debt ceiling to move, to get us into discussions for the next five weeks. we can talk about the big crisis inside our economy. we go to conference with the budget, try to move in a stronger place to take care of those drivers that keep rising the debt inside america. >> so there are really two issues on the table. debt ceiling. that was really sort of the main issue here today, right? >> because the 17th is the deadline, right. >> and the budget has to do with the shutdown. >> no, no. the shutdown is a continuing resolution. >> but the continuing resolution is because we don't have a budget. >> true. >> that's why we have a c.r. >> we finally got them to write it. >> but you said -- >> everybody points back and

forth. >> lots of that. >> paul ryan, our budget chair, will sit down. patty murray will start putting it together. remember, in the senate, their budget never balances. ours balances in ten years. they raise a trillion dollars in new taxes, so we're going to have a lot of arguments as we go through there, but we want to move it through. now, when it comes to the continuing resolution, that's still there. that's what we'll continue to discuss with the president to try to move forward on. >> from what i understand, the debt ceiling is to keat the debt raised until november 22nd, is that the deal? is that wrong? >> november 20th. >> sorry. two days off. >> well, that's important. deadlines are important. >> all right. that's worse. isn't that worse? >> no, no. >> mine -- at least my mistake had it open two more days. >> no, no, no. what you want to have happen here, you want to take that time period so you don't have to come back to this again, that you solved this problem. we you think about the amount of debt we have accumulated, $17 trillion, you can't keep

ignoring the problem. >> i guess the problem is we had this same discussion was it august 2011? didn't we have the same -- you know, they never do get solved. it's a little bit hard -- i mean can you understand why i might be a little cynical? >> you can say that, but you know what else has happened with those? >> okay. >> we're the only congress since the korean war to actually lower what we spend year over year. so even though we only have one house, by going through that, we have lowered what we spend. we have taken our discretionary money downward. that means we're improving in that way. now we've got to talk about mandatory. and that's the discussion we want to have for the next five weeks. >> we're going to have congressman van hollen here. what do you think they think in the house about your proposal? >> look. van hollen is a very smart guy. he used to run the political operation. he'll have some very keen things to say about it. >> does he think it's a very good idea? >> oh, no. he'll want something clean like

the president and keep raising it. i think he'll be a confer reinto the budget and he'll get into the budget. i would hope he would like that. >> i guess the big issue is if the president wants a clean one, he's not getting one under your deal, right? >> no, no. right. >> he's got to give or you've got to give, right? somebody's got to give. >> the president always says nobody get s 100%. what we walked out with is a good movement. >> did you give anything today? >> we said we would do a short-term debt increase, go into budget negotiations, and for that time period work on all those cost drivers that keep rising the cost of america and get us -- we're talking about tax reforms. when it came to the resolution, we'll continue to talk to you about it. >> did he have the attitude, like, oh, wow, this is great idea or was he sort of like -- >> you know what he said? >> what. >> he didn't say yes. he didn't say no.

>> what was the mood like in the room? >> you know, the mood was very frank. i mean we were very honest with one another, which is healthy. the most important part i thought was instead of talking through tv to one another, we're talking with one another. and i thought that was very good. there were times we had a fundamental disagreement but we were working toward something. >> i think that's good too. it's like talking together is so important. >> you know, probably the best thing that happened? i know the president wanted to invite everyone down. went down there with our leadership team and committee chairs and was really a place where it wasn't a place for any theatrics, it was an honest discussion and i thought it was very healthy and a sign that we'll continue the discussion to me was very positive. he didn't say yes, he didn't say no, but we're moving in a different direction. >> congressman, thank you. >> thanks for having me. do you like beer?

no new beers and you can blame the government shutdown. guess who's calling each nooem night this week to celebrate our kickoff. so far mike tyson, kris jenner, and dick cheney calling. i have nod who this is. this is the staff behind this one. don't forget at 10:00 sean hannity has

a billboard showing a tattoo'd jesus, controversial. the tattoos say things like outcast, addicted, and jealous. the billboard is sponsored by the website jesustattoo.org. that's a grassroots effort that jesus will remove your faults and take them on himself. it's not going over well. some call the billboard der rogge torrey and blasphemous but

others say the sign is clevl and draws people in. you be the judge. is the billboard sacrilegious or a good thing? coming up, we heard from majority whip

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okay. is it time? it is time to "hash it out." it's former chicago bears coach mike ditka. "sports illustrated" tweeting mike ditka not running in the senate race against barack obama is his biggest mistake saying he probably would have won the seat in the senate in 2004 and his victory would have stopped president obama from being present. one capitol hill timepiece is not. roll call reporting. the time clock has fallen victim to the shutdown. the hands froze at 4:15 yesterday. the curator has the job of fixing the time time piece, but

the entire staff has been furloughed. the "new york post" tweeting, mad at coming? here's how to drunk driel them. drunkdialcongress.org putting them in con tack and if you need help, it features a list of government-themed drink recipes including the bad representative and the sleepy senator. >> and now it's your turn to hash it out. in two minutes lrks the shutdown make it harder for you to get a

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