republicans? >> it's a key, if this goes down as legacy goes down. they'll do whatever they can to up hold it. greta goes on the record right now. have our politicians lost their minds? is washington nuts? the government already delaying death benefits for the families of dozens of fallen soldiers until you screamed holy hell about it, and then it got fixed, but now it's about to get worse. >> this administration has made life so difficult for our veterans. >> shouldn't we be embarrassed about this? shouldn't we be ashamed? >> in 1940 and got out 1945. >> 1942 to 1945. >> i was in okinawa. >> this hearing will come to order. >> if the shutdown does not end in the come weeks, the v.a. will not be able to assure delivery

of 1 november checks to more than 5.18 million beneficiaries. >> disability compensation, pension, education, vocational rehabilitation, and employment benefits will be suspended due to lack of funding. >> including veterans who are 100% disabled. surviving spouses, eligible children ordered by the death of their military or veteran parent. >> compensation payments 3.8 million veterans will not be made. the president -- >> my answer is the same. there are so many consequences of shutdown. congress has a responsibility to resolve all of them with one vote in the house of representatives that would receive a majority to open the government. >> temporary retirement from the u.s. marine corps. he is also an ambassador for the armed forces foundation. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> pleasure to see you, ma'am. >> what's going on with the vets? we've had the one problem where

for nine days we didn't fund the death benefits for the families, and we also didn't pay for the families to travel to pick up the remains of their loved ones. what else is happening with the vets? >> well, if we're looking at a shutdown of all veterans benefits on 1 november, you're going face a major problem with individuals having financial stability. in some markets have upwards of 20% veterans unemployment. you have individuals who are so severely disable thad they're unable to work whatsoever. they need those veterans benefits just to make ends meet. it's not like they're making a huge savings account off those basic benefits. and so with the loss of income that comes from those compensation benefits, you're going to have individuals hitting severe financial strain come 1 november. >> as the secretary of veterans affairs has actually testified to this, so he is not keeping this one hidden, this problem hidden, right? he has put it out there for people to see. >> yes, he has. >> that's a good thing. one of the problems we have with the death gratuity is nobody told us about it. >> that's very true.

it is very well known and veterans groups, are stepping up and, one, getting their voice heard, and, fireworks also stepping up to provide funding in direct assistance grants, the bill and beverly young financial grants that are going to be assisting individuals who are incapable of paying their own bills come 1 november. >> all right. even before november 1st we have the situation where since the 1st of october there have been people furloughed who process claims, right? >> yes, ma'am. >> and there's been a consequence there. >> on average since the furlough of all v.a. employees began about a week ago, you're facing about 1,400 claims not being processed per day. >> that's the slowdown. >> that's already slowing gown and adding to the backlog that already exists. >> that's 14,000 behind where we ordinarily would be. >> yes, ma'am. >> before that, how were we doing on lamz? even before that we have a backlog to begin with, right? >> the backlog was almost insurmountable in the cob september of getting up-to-date in any foreseeable future.

veterans in the most extreme cases are waiting up to two years to see their basic disability benefits being paid out. >> what are the veterans saying? you know, you all volunteered, and, you know, when we asked you to help, you were right there for us. now when you come back, if you are injured, and then even you have a purple heart, if you are injured, we say what later? >> we'll get it to you when we can. >> i don't think the american people are too happy with that. >> i can't imagine they are, and evidence to support that they're giving to organizations like the armed forces foundation that do provide that kind of financial assistance in that meantime. you know, organizations such as aff are still capable of filling that gap. however, that gap should not exist in the first place. >> is there a sense of bitterness or do you just feel like we abandoned you? i hate to generalize about all veterans. people have different experiences and feel differently. among some, do they feel abandoned? >> in some extreme cases i'm sure they do. again, i can't speak for all veterans, but i'm sure there are

many who do feel like the government has kind of turned their back. >> and this is even before the shutdown with all this backlog. >> yes, ma'am. >> how does that happen? >> well, the large numbers of veterans claims are being processed. poef them are coming in via paper. some of them that are being submitted on-line still need to be vetted. it is a long process with veterans benefits where an individual has to go through medical evaluations through the department of veterans affairs. the veterans benefits administration then has to look through the v.a. schedule for disables and determine that, yes, this individual does meet the qualifications for a specific percentage. >> thank you, and i hope that changes. thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. >> it took you, the american people speaking out to congress and president obama to restore death benefits to military families. why did it come to that? representative michelle bachman joins us. nice to see you. >> nice to see you, greta. >> it really did take the american people to raise holy hell that the death benefits weren't being paid. >> that's right, ask we thought that it was all taken care of, and then we found out from the

obama administration, they said they had no legal authority to pay out the benefits, so we immediately put a bill on the floor. we were told it was going to be vetoed by harry reid. we couldn't believe it. we put it on the floor anyway. we have passed veterans benefits in the house. we've also passed the specific death benefit guarantee as well because i think in your last interview with ryan, i think it's very key people were extremely upset when we left our soldiers on the field in benghazi. now we're looking at leaving the remains of soldiers literally on the field overseas. we can't leave our disabled veterans without their benefits here in the homeland. that can't be done. that's why we've passed the legislation. it's got to be signed, and it has to be implemented. >> we'll get you later. yet, when we ask them to help us to, you know, to go over and fight, they treat us like first class citizens and stepped up and did it. i mean, it's appalling to me the way we treat them.

>> it's beautifully stated the way that you did it that you said that we, the american people, are treated as first class citizens. >> by them. by them. >> by the veterans. >> we are treating them similarly. >> this is a problem we weren't familiar with. it's just horrific how old-fashioned the benefits system system in. v.a. they still use paper to process these claims as opposed to putting it on-line, dealing with it diligently. this system -- >> but fix it. get it done. >> exactly. >> know knows it's a problem, and it should be a priority. when we mobilize them because of some, you know, 9/11 or something else, we mobilize -- this is their whole lives. this is their home. >> it's their lives. it's 9/11 for them, and we're just, like, later. >> that is what is unconscionable. that's why we pass the bill in the house on veterans benefits. we've passed the bill in the house on dealing with their actual remains, and also to help

the families of these disabled veterans. >> well, we -- >> this is the fast track. >> even before -- i mean, actually in some ways this is good for them because it puts the spotlight on the fact that even before the shutdown on october isst, they had this incredible backlog of claims against the government and the government is not hearing them. >> well, and that's why the suffering that the veterans have gone through, that suffering, i believe, is going to help subsequent benefits, because this is unconscionable. now the american people are paying attention. they won't stand for us not being as giving and kind and generous as our veterans deserve. >> and, boy, my hat goes off to the american people who were so upset when they heard about the death benefits and the families not meeting the remains. they really did raise hell with emails and calls and everything else, and it got changed. >> it's not political. it's personal. it's unpatriotic. >> always nice to see you. straight ahead, republicans have been busy commuting 16 blocks.

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today senate republicans hitting the road. they went 16 blocks to the white house. meeting with the presses. senator john paraso was in the room. i imagine it was quite cordial in the room. >> i thought it was positive and productive, and we should have done this two weeks ago. >> you asked him what? >> well, i asked him specifically about the individual mandate. i wanted to delay it. i would like to delay it permanently, but so many people are having trouble with this website. the exchanges. trying to get on to shop around for insurance. if the president is going to fine all of them if they don't have insurance under his mandate by january 1st. >> do you say have u have a good idea? >> he said, well, no one was madder than he was about the

fact that the web sites weren't ready to go. >> how about the mandate when he said he wanted to delay the mandate? did he say that was a good idea? >> he said the mandate is bad politics, but it's necessary for all these young healthy people to pay more for insurance so that other people get covered with insurance. he gets the math. he gets how unpopular it is, and he is force it through. >> why is that productive if he says -- you say he is forcing it through, and you say it's a bad idea? how is that productive? >> well, i said, well, then what about still having these troubles with the website come november, come december? at what point do you do the same thing you did with the employers mandate and say individuals don't have to live by that as well? you know, it's good for the bosses, and it ought to be good for the workers. >> the medical device tax. was that discussed it. >> it was. susan collins has a proposal which is a comprehensive proposal. greta, i want to get the government open again. i want to get america back to work. i don't think any of us are well served by a government shutdown, and that's just one of a number of things being proposed. >> did he seem interested in

lifting that tax, the medical device tax? >> he was -- he understood that it was used not as a basis and foundation of the health care law. it was one of the ways to pay for his health care law. he wants to find other ways to generate revenue to bring money in to pay for this very expensive and unpopular law. >> it's unpopular. i tell you why it's unpopular, because the medical device people have lobbyists here, and the individual doesn't have a lobbyist, but the medical device people that got lobbyists to come here and to pound the pavement in the house and senate, and a lot of even the democrats who voted for it in the beginning because they didn't read the bill, they suddenly learned that their constituents are these medical device makers and suddenly they don't like it. it looks like someone -- it looks almost rigged. they're getting the deal. >> well, very few people -- i read the law, as you know, before it was passed. very few people did. it's a tax actually on sales rather than on profits, and it's driving businesses and jobs overseas. that's the real problem. >> they're getting the extra consideration. you know, maybe it's a bad idea. i don't know if it's a bad idea or bad tax, but the problem is

the unions have special access to the government. the big business has access to the government, and so do the medical device people. it's like -- >> there's 20 taxes as part of this health care law, and i think all of them are bad ideas, but that's the only way the president can say that he is actually paying for this health care law sflad that a lot of americans are going to be paying a lot more for insurance. they're getting that now with sticker shock. let's look at what the president said. he said, first of all, you can keep what you have -- if you like it, keep it. he said easier to use than amazon.com. that's not the case at all. he said cheaper that be a cell phone bill. not correct. >> did the senate republicans say anything about the house republicans to the president? >> well, the house republicans are working on a proposal to get the government open, and we are too. >> did you gossip about the house republicans to the president? >> we said we need to get the government opened again. we need to get america back to business, and we need to deal with the long-term debt. the president is focus odd this, you know, on this raising the debt ceiling. >> did the house republicans come up at all in the discussion? >> no. >> not at all? >> not at all.

>> never mentioned? >> we want to make sure that we can get something that can pass the house, pass the senate, get signed by the president. that's the key to getting the government opened, and when the president -- tomorrow we're going to vote saturday in the senate on raising the debt ceiling. harry reid is bringing a raise the debt ceiling by $1 trillion. $1 million a minute between now and december of 2014. that's irresponsible unless you get the spending under control. >> nice to see you, senator. >> thanks for having me. >> some truckers demanding to be heard heading to the capitol beltway to cause a different kind of d.c. gridlock. you, yes, you, are about to go along for the truckers ride. that's next. guess who is calling. each night this week secret cal callers are helping us fill our 7:00 p.m. start guessing using _#greta. this is a very, very, very famous person. i have no idea who it is. that's what the staff says. stay tuned to find out who it is.

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today marking the start of a three-day protest against the

federal government. now, throughout the weekend the truckers plan to clog the capital beltway. how did day one go? riding along with ernest lee and talking to other truckers gearing up to protest. zi think it's time for the american people to stabbed up to the force that is are tryinging to drag this country through the dirt and into the sewer. they're trampling on our rights. >> i love my country, and i hate what's going on. i hate it. >> it's traffic all weekend long. >> despite today's slow start clogging up that traffic, j.b. schachtner says there's more to come. >> trucks are going to be driving in shifts, so we've got one shift out now, and we're staging for more drivers as they continue to show up. >> leading today's effort well before dawn ernest lee, a trucker known on the c.b. radio as general. >> what are your hopes to accomplish? >> what we hope to accomplish today is the beginning of making the federal government smaller, getting it back inside.

we are looking for an egyptian moment here where instead of 30 million and 35 million people all across the nation we have participation by 100 million americans standing up together uniting saying we have had enough. we want our country back. it's time for the people to rise up and tame this beast that is the federal government. our nonrepresenting representatives have got to listen. they've got to be put on notice. 2014 is coming. 2016 is coming, and what's coming with it is we the people and big, big change. this is the beginning. this is the spring board for this. >> when you say enough, enough of what? what have you had enough of? >> enough tyranny, enough taxation, enough big government. we've had plenty. enough of that. >> is there one thing that's a

tipping point for this movement? >> obama care probably had a whole lot to do with it being a tipping point. obviously, this movement was being planned and was underway well before the shutdown, but, you know what, we thought we would add our own brand of shutdown to this and just cut the city off, and in a way in a symbolic way sort of shut down d.c. to isolate them the way d.c. and all their regulations and everything are just choking the life out of this economy, out of our rights, out of our freedoms. i'm doing this for my grandchildren. my grandchildren can have the opportunity to grow up in a united states of america that is free with a much smaller and less intrucive federal government, power return to the states and to the people. >> turns out they are off to a slow start. the rainy weather causing more traffic jams than the trucks. we'll see if the weekend brings more truckers to washington. coming up, it's supposed to

reward efforts for peace, so why is this year's nobel peace prize causing conflict? the answer coming up. plus, a special guest is here tonight. larry king. you have to hear what he has been up to. larry king coming up.

another conflict in benghazi. the first indictment in the motorcycle road rage attack and controversy over the nobel peace prize. get ready to speed read your way through the news. first to benghazi. today a car bomb exploding outside the swedish consulate. the consulate was damaged, but no one was hurt. it has been just over a year since terrorists attacked the u.s. consulate in benghazi killing four americans, including our ambassador. now to new york at the citi. the person in the road rage attack. last night robert sims and today a grand jury indicting two more bikers. reginald chance and craig wright. the exact charges have not been made public. to more vuls on camera.

this time in illinois. a woman is suing a local police department claiming an officer brutally threw her into a jail cell. the woman claiming she suffered severe facial injuries when her head slammed into a cement bench. the woman had been raed for dui. finally, a controversy over this year's nobel peace prize. today the prize awarded to the organization for -- efforts to destroy serious stockpiles. the announcement surprising and disappointment to people around the world who expected the peace prize to be to 16-year-old malala. she's the pakistani teen shot by the pakistan for vocal support for girls education. joining us abc news political director and -- byron, this is really burning up a lot of people that she didn't get the prize. >> well, the thing about giving the prize to the chemical weapons group is they are just beginning to do this in syria. if they had completely disarmed syria of all chemical weapons

xshgs it was a triumph of diplomacy and chemical weapons diplomacy, that would be something, but this is an award given in prospect, which is actually kind of like president obama's nobel peace prize, which was given in prospect because he has only been in the white house for nine months. as opposed somebody who has actually done something. >> rick, malala said she was quite gracious on her twitter account. she congratulated them. a kid, a teen taking on the taliban. >> you couldn't help but be moved by her in watching her and diane sawyer had some amazing material with her. you couldn't help but be inspired by her story. it seems like the nobel committee ultimately went for something of a political statement about this conflict in syria rather than the inspirational story that malala offered. you know, you can't take that aspect of and i think she already won a bigger prize in the sense that we're talking about this, and she has provided inspiration to millions of women. an incredibly strong young woman she is. the story that's behind her. i mean, that's to take nothing away from the work of folks who are trying to rid the world of

chemical weapons. her story, i think, just advanced the human spirit in a way that is remarkable. >> she did it alone. there's something about someone doing it alone rather than a group. >> last year they gave it to the european union, which is weird. a nobel peace prize. >> the three of us are to something. all right, rick. the secretary had a little bit of a problem last night in pittsburgh. >> she went to help sign people up at heinze field with members of the steelers organization, and everything -- help people sign up for the website. there are people even with some 20 of the navigators in the room, people there to help get people on the website, the website wasn't working for people, even with the secretary of hhs and even on site they were untibl obtain health care using the website. just an utter embarrassment. >> a predictable one too. if there's anything you can product now is if you try to sign up for obama care, you are going to have trouble with the computer, and it's unclear when they're going to fix this up. i do think that once they

finally fix their technical problems, then the issues of sticker shock and the actual substance of what people will be trying to buy will appear, and i think they'll be more deeper complaints about obama care, but now it's astonishing that they would set up this live demonstration knowing that the chances of failure were pretty big. >> it's just -- you would think they would do several dry runs. i mean, especially since there have been problems. i mean, like what were they thinking? >> it's an astounding sdeelt. some of the folks involved in setting up the front end of the website. the home page that you get to when you get to obama care, they're a small business here in washington. they were hoping to use that portal to sign people up. they couldn't even sign up for the website. using the website that they had just designed. you know, there was a sense from the administration that they had designed this incredible tool that was going to be used by so many people immediately. yes, there would be glitches. i don't think anyone anticipated this level of glimpz. >> how could you not, though? seriously, how can you not have anticipated a lot of glitches. any time the government tries to do something so big as this --

>> you know, president obama likes to compare this all to apple, and looking at the -- steve jobs, whenever they rolled out a new product, they do it in a big showy program, and jobs would actually demonstrate the new gadget live on stage, and they went through enormously complicated rehearsals for this, and jobs made it clear that if anybody messed up, it would be their life. >> president obama should get the big screen behind him and show us how to do it. learn about roll-out. gentlemen, thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> straight ahead, which american city may be in danger becoming the next detroit? is it your hometown? well, you better hope not. we'll tell you which city coming up. also, guess who is calling? famous people call in, and it's been a big surprise here to celebrate our -- president bush and mrs. bush. mike tyson, kris jenner or vice president dick cheney and green bay packer great brett favre all calling us.

start guessing who tonight's surprise caller will be. i have no idea who it is. stay tuned to find out. be sure to tune in in to a special edition of "hannity." he will host a studio audience debate on obama care. you'll hear from small business owners, the everyday americans all affected by the health care law. thatatatath%h%k%h5

>> tonight we have a special guest going on the record. laefr king, the greatest interview of all time. >> he am to proud to be part of this. wish you good luck in this great new time slot. >> now that you're on earlier i have some it ups for you. this is a better shot.

there's more people up at 7:00 than at 10:00. there tends to be a little younger at 7:00 than at 10:00. right? >> yes. >> because at 7:00 most older people are finishing the deal they got at the deli and rolls they stole. i would start to inject a little light cartoon stuff and have rock sting singers on. that would be very good for you. >> when chance king was born, greta was on the air pinch-hitting for me when chance king was born about erin time, 9:the 32. greta was hosting, and i called in, and she announced the birth of chance king, who is now 14, greta, and attending notre dame high school. >> wow. >> you know, you gave me the best advice of anybody. i remember the first time i ever

guest hoet hosted for you. this was a program at cnn. you said make sure don't talk too much because the viewers would get sick of me, and they tuneed in to hear from the guests and to showcase them and i shouldn't talk too much. they get sick of me. >> the important thing is the guest counts. if you have a guest, and you talk more than the guest, then the guest is just a prop. never make the guest a prop. you're going to be -- you come back. >> are you having fun at r.t.? >> what did you say? >> are you having fun with your new program on the web? >> oh, i've excited about everything i do. when you get to be my age, i love doing it. i'm past the age of retirement. i love it all. i love the whole media business. i think i would like to do more, greta. you got any ideas? >> yeah. come on over here. i would love to have you. i got to go, larry.

>> good luck, greta. go get them. >> straight ahead, former senator rick santorum is here, but, first, this. >> what is the tell tale sign that the financial struggles of other major cities. this entire block foreclosed. the windows boarded up. graffiti everywhere. no trespassing signs. it's trash and debris littering what was once a viable block just miles from downtown san jose.

zirjts let's all go off the record for a minute. you know i love my job, and one of the most fun parts of my job, though, is not on camera. it's getting invited to participate in so many charities, including tonight's big event right here in washington. the points of light tribute wards. i'm emceeing it.

it began decades ago with a vision from then president george h.w. bush. he called on americans to take action by helping their fellow citizens. auz may know, president bush has one of the biggest hearts in this nation. you can ask president clinton. is he going to confirm it for you. i saw firsthand these two former presidents making an example for the rest of us. a republican and a democrat working together after hurricane ike. who is tonight's points of life ward winners. governor chris christie. the even better news? volunteers all over the nation every single day helping. chances are you're a volunteer, and so this night in many ways honors you too. take a bow. regardless of our differences, political or otherwise, we all need to look out for each other, and that's my off the record comment tonight. if you have an prnt story issue you think i should take off the record, go to greta.com and tell us about it.

now to the west coast. a controversial new plan for a california city with big money problems. right now san jose cannot pay the benefits it owes city workers. so what's the new plan? why are some people trying to stop it? grif jenkins hit the ground in san jose. >> greta, no one here is san jose, the capital of silicon valley, ever expected the kind of financial struggles that the city has been plagued with for the last few years. the harsh reality is they face a $3 billion unfunded pension liability and no money to pay for it. it has many people asking the question, are they the next detroit? >> we're a long ways from becoming the next detroit because we've taken action the last couple of years, some drastic action. we cut our employees' pay by 10%. we had to lay off a bunch of people and shrunk the work force, and that's giving us a cushion. >> how did we get here? >> well, you know, a lot of it is traced back to increases in the benefits that came in the

late 1990s at the statewide level. that, in turn, set in motion a situation where unions up and down the state were pushing their own city councils to match those benefits. then the investment returns that were supposed to make those benefits free didn't materialize. now you have multi-billion dollar liabilities that somebody has to pay for. >> you've got roughly $3 billion in unfunded pension liability. don't have the money to pay for it. if you can do anything and everything you wanted, what's the plan? >> first and foremost, you have to deal with the fact that costs are extremely high. the benefits that we are locked into are too expensive. we can't afford them, and employees can't afford them. so you have to deal with the costs of the benefits, and that's what we've done with our development to improve by nearly 70% of our voters. we set up a new level of benefits for new employees, and we're making our current

employees pay more and giving them a choice to go to a lower cost benefit plan. >> it's necessary. however, the way that the mayor and the majority of his council have gone about it has been very damaging to our city. it hasn't been collaborative, and it's really caused our city to fall into disrepair by, first of all, scaring off many of our employees, but more significantly than that, it really hasn't brought the savings that they promised. >> the worst pension plan being offered in the state of california, and as such, we don't expect these officers that we hire in the next few years to stay very long. they'll go to other agencies. >> we don't have enough officers to patrol the streets, and so that's why we can't respond to burglaries. that's why we have graffiti running rampant. that's why we have homicide rates now at decades high for the third year in a row. it's because we're not doing enough to work together as a city, and it's not responsible for any elected official in the city to throw down detroit or stockton or anything that's gone into bankruptcy because their issues were much different.

>> there's enormous amount of resistance. public employees have filed lawsuits. we have seven lawsuits and eight administrative actions, i believe, all trying to stop us from making changes, any changes, to the way we deal with retirement benefits. if we're not successful with th to cutting services and raising taxes to cover the skyrocketing costs of benefits. we don't want to do that. >> up next former senator rick santorum is back from a big gathering of conservatives. do they have agg@a@a@q@g j

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all this fighting that's going on in washington these days, my biggest fear is that we're losing focus on the biggest issues facing our country. >> every one of you is here because you love this country. because you love freedom. and you know that we can't keep going down this road much longer. >> today republican leaders speaking at the values voter summit. the gathering of conservatives kicking off here in washington. former senator rick santorum also spoke, he joins us, nice to see you, sir. >> great to be with you, greta, at a new time and the set looks

great. >> ted cruz had a little bit of heckling today from some people. >> well, yeah, that's unfortunate. you know, ted's gone out there and has become a lightning rod for what he did. and when you become a lightning rod, i know firsthand, you can get hecklers and get some attention, but you know what? i think he feels the same way i do. if you're not shaking things up, then you don't get hecklers if you don't shake things up and he is. >> you shook things up in the last race and brought the social issues into the race. and i'm curious whether or not you think that's a wise strategy for whoever runs in 2016 because you have the initiative like gay marriage. three-fourths the american people, republicans and independents, are in favor of gay marriage, but you're not in favor of that. >> three, four years ago a lot of people were against it and they took the position that they thought was the right one. >> when should you focus on the economic issues and leave the ones on the table that may not help you. >> well, let me just -- you want

to look at a good example of what i think we need is to look at australia. australia just had an election a couple weeks ago and elected someone who looked a lot like me. he was a catholic, he was someone who is very different from what they nominated the previous two times, the conservative party there. they decided to move a lift left and to nominate sort of a moderate. and they got their clock cleaned. and then they decided, well, we'll stand and be against this global warming stuff that they were proposing and he proposed a program similar to mine with a tax cut for families, he talked about the issues of working, the working men and women in this country and their country, manufacturing. those are the issues that i talked about during the campaign, and yeah, i believe the family is the central issue. the family's falling apart. i find a lot of liberals feel the same way. they don't like the fact that you're seeing a fraction of the american family and the economic disorientation that comes as a result of that. >> i know you have a movie coming out, "the christmas

candle" on november 22nd, but now that you are moving into the movie area, are you moving out of the political area? >> i tied that to my speech today. the problem i see with the republicans is not that our message is a bad message, but the issue of marriage came from hollywood, basically moving the american public by telling stories that touched the hearts of americans on this issue. we have to do a better job of telling our side of the story through stories. people learn more and more in america today, not from facts and figures and speeches, but they learn through stories. and i always say, 83% of the bible is stories. and jesus didn't back away from what he believed in, but communicated in a way to relate to people. >> we have five seconds, are you still leaning towards running? or considering it? >> i'm absolutely considering it. >> senator, nice to see you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. and the phone is ringing, only the "on the record" producers know who is on the line. i'm just as surprised as you. let's take this phone call

together, it's greta, who is on the line? >> hi, greta, it is celine dion. >> the greatest voice and entertainer and i might add one of the world's nicest people. how are you? >> i'm fine, how are you? >> i'm very well, very well. what are you doing these days? are you out singing again? >> well, lately i'm in florida, we are resting with the family, my kids, my husband, and we're enjoying the weather before we start again. well, if i may, i just want to, first of all, congratulate you and to wish you good luck, greta, an your new hour of the new show coming up. so i want to congratulate you. and so we're taking it easy and then we're back to work. greta, it's been so long since we have seen each other. i think it's been more than five years? >> it was in vegas. the most spectacular concert i have been to in my entire life. it was absolutely spectacular. in fact, everybody on the staff who went with me, they're still so grateful to me that we did

that interview because we got to go backstage, meet you, we had great seats, it was an unbelievable concert. they're still talking about it, celine. >> i'm glad you had a great talk. you have to come back. we are going back in december until march, so any time you want to come, please, guys, come. >> well, i'm definitely going to take you up on that because it was so -- it really was that much fun and spectacular. how is your husband? how is he? >> how is who? >> your husband. >> my husband is great, the kids are great, the dog is great, everybody's great. >> that's fantastic. now that we are in a 7:00 p.m. time slot, you'll be able to watch it and not go to sleep, right? >> no, we are not sleeping, we'll be watching you and we've been following you. so we'll be tuning in with you for sure. we'll be following your move. >> all right, that's great. and if you should happen to miss it, there's dvr. celine, thank you. and i promise i'll see you in december. >> i can't wait for you to come. >> all right, thank you.

>> congratulations, greta, bye-bye. >> thank you very much. >> bye, dear. >> thank you. and "on the record" staff has one surprise to celebrate our 7:00 p.m. kickoff. they are saying it will be my favorite surprise of the week. my producers are telling me it is a message from the very special friends of mine. >> you have to watch greta at 7:00. >> i love you, greta. a good time. >> watch greta's show at 7:00 p.m. >> oh, my, wow. that is the absolute best. those are the children at the greta home academy in haiti with reverend franklin graham. what a great way to end our first week in our new 7:00 p.m. time slot. my heart is just with those children. thank you for joining us. see you again monday right here at our new time, 7:00 p.m. eastern. you can also dvr us. up next, "the o'reilly factor."

good night from washington. >> watch great fa at her new time at 7:00. >> i love you, mom ma, a good time. time. hello, everyone. i'm greg gutfeld and this is danish home furnishings today. tonight we will focus on scandinavian place mats and wesc will have a quiz on candlestick holders. stay tuned to the bottom of the hour. first let's welcome our guests.. she is hotter than a big screen tv sold from the back of a truck in a volcano.vo i am here with kimberly gilfoil she is one of my co-hosts on "the five." and filling in for andy levy is andy levy. l i am sick of the whole thing too. and the national institute of it health is developing a vaccine against him. it is my repulsive sidekick, bill schulz. and if hilarity was salsa he would come on a