@jeronfnc. to all of you watching, hope to see you right here next week. budget negotiations in washington hitting a brick wall. this, as the government shutdown enters its 12th day. hello, everyone. welcome to a brand-new hour inside america's news headquarters. >> that's not the only fiscal setback, however. a senate team has now rejected a plan to raise the debt ceiling only days before our country faces what some claim is the risk of defaulting on its debt. as dismay and frustration to be sure is growing meantime, senat democrats have just held a news conference to speak out about

the stalemate. let's turn to doug live on capitol hill with the latest. as you heard, you know, recriminations are endemic on capitol hill. boy, we heard a mouth load of them today, didn't we? >> been hearing a lot of those. it's a good thing the markets aren't open on saturdays because what happened today here in congress would give nobody a cause for optimism. there are basically three proposals. each one of which would have staved off the looming threat of defaulting on our debt on gations. all three of them failed. on the house side, republicans learned late this morning that the president would reject the paul ryan plan which would have extended the debt ceiling for a short period of time while addressing some of the major drivers of our deficit spending such as medicare, social security. it would have reformed the tax code to some degree. they came away utterly demoralized at what they see is total intransigence on the part

of the president. >> you probably heard already, we've met. apparently we're getting a bait and switch strategy from the white house. >> we're standing firm. the president wants a blank check. >> no deal as far as we're concerned. >> on the senate side, senate democrats rejected what republicans thought was a promising proposal by moderate republican susan collins of maine. it would have extend the debt limit until 2014 and delay the medical device tax for two years. those are some of the features of it. on the senate side, senate majority leader harry reid was unable to muster a 60 vote threshold to pass a clean debt ceiling extension. and he took a lot of heat for that. from republicans. republicans took a lot of heat from the white house on that. here's the white house statement released after that.

unfortunate that the commonsense clean debt limit increase proposed by the senate was refused. so that leaves all parties, the white house, the senate and the house, with very little direction to turn at this point. only five days until we reach the debt ceiling. our senate producer up here just spoke to senator dianne feinstein a little while ago. asked her, is there any way out of this? feinstein replied, not to my knowledge. >> they're not going to give him a blank check. he didn't give the president a blank kecheck when he was a senator. live on capitol hill. a busy day there. we'll check back with you, thanks. >> a bunch of states are reopening some of our most famous landmarks after striking deals with federal authorities. we're talking about states like arizona. letting tourists back into the

grand canyon. with these deals comes a catch. states must foot the bill themselves. utah, colorado and south dakota also coming to similar agreements with the feds and so has new york state. starting tomorrow, it will reopen lady liberty to visitors once again. a stalemate in washington, d.c. now posing a danger to job security for lawmakers. we're going to discuss the gridlock and the public's growing anger with congressman h louie golmert later on. we've seen major technical problems since the rollout of the obama care website. consumers hoping to sign up for the health care exchanges have been met with glitches and backedup web traffic. the obama administration says it's working to make improvements but now it seems the problem may be going beyond the initial registration process. molly hindenburg live now from

washington. what's going on? >> now the insurance companies are having problems getting accurate reports from the health care.gov website. these companies aren't sure who signing up, for what and when. for example, according to "the washington post," blue cross blue shield in one state says it's gotten multiple reports with erroneous information on the same consumers. cigna says it cannot trust the information from the health care exchanges, that it's supposed to indicate if a consumer qualifies for tax subsidies to purchase insurance. all this is on top of the problems that everyday americans have had just in trying to log on to the website. republican lawmakers say setting up this website cost taxpayers $100 million. and now it's going to cost much, much more to make it work. >> i know in kansas we haven't had one person yet have the ability to sign up for the program. so you've got the providers. you've got the servers.

you can't get past the homepage. on the insurance companies, they have no confirmation. i don't know how much this is going to cost to fix it. what, $1 trillion? >> the white house says the system, the servers, were overwhelmed by the number of people who wanted to shop around for a new health care plan and that glitches were to be expected. >> i'm not saying that this is a situation that doesn't need fixing. it does. which is why we're making inprovements every day. people are working overnight to make those improvements to the website. what is absolutely the case, and you've seen it anecdotically reported across the country, is that americans are finding out that they have for the first time affordable health insurance available to them. >> carney says president obama has been breeched on the web side problems and that the president has told his team to take every measure necessary to, quote, improve the consumer experience. >> molly, thank you very much for that update, molly.

a california man arrested for allegedly trying to join al qaeda. the fbi grabbing the 24-year-old muslim convert as he tried to board a bus to mexico. the suspect reportedly spent time in syria and lebanon and wanted, as a family member put it, to protect his brothers. he's now charged with attempting to join the terror network and lying on his passport application. he is due back in a court of law next week. and coming up, we're going to turn to weather. a record breaking snowstorm leaving ranchers in one state reeling. we're going to tell you the tragic toll the blizzard is taking. and investigators on the hunt now searching for more suspects in that brutal confrontation between a mob of bikers and an suv driver. how many they're still looking to nab still ahead. voters vent their fury at the ongoing stalemate in d.c. republican congressman louie

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deal or no deal? the answer may have huge consequences as voters are beginning to turn against lawmakers over the seemingly endless government shutdown. the looming fears of defaulting on our debt. take a look now at this nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. it asks, would you vote to defeat or replace every single member of congress? look at the numbers. 60% say vote then out. 35% say no. let's bring in, now, a key congressman in all of this. this budget battle here. republican louie golmert joining us from texas. hello, congressman. >> it's good to be with you but

i'm in d.c. right now. >> of course you are. i see your backdrop. tell me, do you care about the polls? do you pay close attention to them? >> well, i care more about what the people in my district are thinking. and, you know, let me just say we have made offers over and over again. i really appreciate in the last half hour my friend steve moore pointing out that the house is supposed to have a role in this. and so he gave us a lecture on constitution 101. he let me just explain. having the president and harry reid saying over and over no, no, no, no, no, no, no. >> i agree -- >> and he's watching the polls -- >> -- let me jump in -- >> -- and finally willing to talk and now if we can get him to the next stop of actually listening -- >> i apologize. you're saying the president,

that he's watching the polls, which is why you feel the president is now coming to the table? >> yes. >> i want to go back to you. you're saying listen, they have to, everybody has a right to say in what's being put on the table. so when you tell your fellow conservative republicans don't cave, what does that mean? and how do you respond to some of your fellow republicans who are saying, like, this infighting, it's hurting the party's brand. >> the party's brand was hurt with t.a.r.p. it was hurt with so many things. but especially 2 1/2 years ago, when we made an offer to cut some of the massive overspending and the president and harry reid said nope, it's our way or the highway. we're hoping for a shutdown. >> but you're not blaping either? let's just have some honest talk right now. >> yes, honest talk is exactly

what we need. and if you will look in the ap even, for heaven's sake, the ap, look at the dates. we have made offer after offer after offer, and we have voted for compromise after compromise after compromise. and so what i would like to say to you and to harry reid and to the president, stop the dishonesty. harry reid saying there's a bunch of firebrands and radicals in the house that have hijacked the party, that's not the case. we are together but the hijacking has been the u.s. senate by left wing radicals who want to keep spending grandchildren's money without any consequences. >> let me jump in there, congressman. i understand your passion. we're talking about the people now. i know you guys are fighting there. we want to get the response of the people. let me call up another poll. do you approve of the way congress is handling its job.

83% saying they disapprove of what you're doing there. so let me continue here, congressman. as you know, your colleagues have gone home for the weekend. no votes until monday night. will they get an earful from their constituents? or are they hearing a different course from the folks back home? or does it depend on where they're from? >> it depends in part of where they're from. if you're from new york or california where you believe spending your grandchildren's money is somehow moral than you may get encouragement to keep demanding more phone. but most americans are getting it. you're having unions now, one has voted to have a strike over obama care. it's the worst spending program in the history of the country. people are getting it. let me tell you about polls. listen this is so important. the only poll that's important is the poll after we get to where we're going. and i'm telling you, if we cave and show complete disregard yet

again -- >> disregard for what? >> for future generations -- >> and how would you do that? >> we're spending what we're doing now. we have got to reform obama care. treat everybody equally. quit giving waivers and exemptions to you cronies. give it to individuals. let's slow down the massive overspending because history will judge us. and character is when you do the right thing, even when nobody's watching or when the polls are against you. that is what we need to have. character and do the right thing. >> and let me -- >> -- in the end will come out good. >> i appreciate your passion, but i want to jump in with one final question -- >> it's a passion for honesty because we hadn't been getting any. >> of course we're not suggesting that -- everybody has great suggestions, you know, we have to mix and match -- >> you're wrong there, you're wrong there -- >> -- so what i ask you, sir, is -- >> tell me what the president

has suggested -- >> i'm sorry? >> tell me what the president has suggested. tell me what reid has suggested. they've not made one good suggestion, not one, other than total capitulation. >> that's why we're here where we are. congressman, any way out of this? >> you show me one suggestion -- yes, have them start compromising. we compromised over and over. we got to the point where we said, okay, here's the deal. that's what the law requires. harry reid would not even appoint conferrees as the law required. so yes -- >> they ask for you guys to come back to the table -- listen, my producer's in my ear, sir, i would love to keep talking to you -- >> -- is not clean, it's pretty nasty. >> i think the people are unfortunately very tired of it -- i did not cut the congressman off -- >> please look for the suggestions, they're not there. >> just want everybody to know,

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>> welcome back. our special series celebrating hispanic heritage month continues. we go to puerto rico, home of chichi rodriguez, a true golfing ledge end from the pga tour. >> that's it. very good. very good.

the most important thing for them to know is that they can win. when you get somebody down, step on his head. don't let him get up. beat him like a drum. winning is everything. you have to learn to lose too. when a person beats you fair and square you look at him in the eye and you say congratulations and enjoy. inside you say, i will get you the next time. >> tough and nurturing. it is a difficult combination for most poo pull off, but for rodriguez it is easy. none of this is about him. it is for the kids he is trying to help. >> the main thing i teachers and them is they have to gravitate to college. the most important thing is to get a scholarship. >> he grew up with his siblings in a poor family in puerto rico while his family tried to support the family working in the sugar

canefield, rod -- sugar cane field he wandered to the course next door. >> i scouted the caddies and i said that has to be better than the sugar cane. the sugar cane cuts you like a knife. >> chichi was a natural, but he was the beneficiary of good fortune. it was owned by lawrence rock fellly and as chichi grew his game he talked to rock rockefeller about an investment opportunity. >> i went over there and i was very nervous. he relaxed me. he thew -- he knew how to do it. he said what do you want? i said i am going on tour and i need some money. he said how much you need? i said i need $15,000 to go on tour. he said you got it. >> the club manager got upset with chichi for not speaking to him first. >> he said you went over my head. i told him i didn't go over your head. i went over your entire body.

>> in 1960chichi went on tour with ben hogan and arnold palmer. they had never seen a player with this much person -- personality. >> i didn't want to be anybody but me. everybody wanted to be like ben hogan. i wanted to be chichi, nobody else. >> he was a showman. you never knew if he was going to put his hat over the hole or a sword dance or whatever he was going to do. it was for the people. >> and soon he began to win. >> i would like to say hello to my mother in new york city. now with this check i will build her a home. >> some of the enthusiasm rankled the players who wanted him to stop throwing his fedora when he got it in. >> some say you damage the lawn when you put your hat on there. they were envious because the

fans liked it. so he says i am not telling you to stop. it but i am telling you to think of something else. >> so he went back to his room and envisioned himself in the ring fighting a bull. >> i went to the room and i figured that the hole was a bull and i had the sword which is the putter and i stopped the bull and i put the sword back in. in real life, you know, i don't like to see anything bleed. >> the dance was born and it was his signature move and the most celebrated celebration in golf. >> i'm not sure some of them liked him very much. they felt he was over stepping his bounds and i for one thought he was very good are to game. >> he said keep going what you are doing. he was never envious. he didn't have to be. some guys better than i am were envious. >> as his career took off,

chichi turned his attention to those who needed him most. he started the chichi rodriguez youth foundation that gives disadvantaged kids a chance at a better life. >> you cannot fool a man with an education. you can only fool a fool. if the kids are educated they can get better jobs and have better lives. behind the success or failure of a kid there is always an adult. you have to help them take that place in society. we give them the vehicle to be good taxpayers. >> chichi won 22 times on the senior circuit that is now called the champions tour. all of success means nothing to him if he can't pass the lessons on. >> when i practice in my prime my ball always kicked toward the hole. low and kicking left. you don't have -- do you have

any questions? well when i was 12 years old i shot a 67. since that day i knew i was going to be one of the best golfers in the world. and everybody used to tell me, you are too small. i said, well, the ball don't know how tall i am. all of you can be great. it would be great if puerto rico can have somebody that can take my place. >> he is an original. thank you very much. we will be right back with the latest on the showdown in washington.

hello, everyone. welcome to a new hour inside america's news headquarters. >> topping the news this hour, the u.s. stoping another effort to end the government shutdown. >> it is now day 12 and lawmakers are not any closer to breaking the deadlock. so does this mean a greater

likelihood for a national debt crisis? >> and hundreds of thousands of people are bracing for the worst along the eastern shores of india. look at that. a massive and powerful cyclone is bearing down on the coastline. >> and a big catch in afghanistan. american troops are locking up a senior commander of the at that . -- of the taliban connected to the bombing three years ago. we begin with the stalemate in washington and the effort to try to resolve it. the government shutdown on its 12th day as the nation hurdles toward default of the debt. president obama rejecting yet another house plan to open offices while the senate shot down a democratic plan to raise the spending limit with no conditions and no limits on spending. that starts off a long and stressful weekend on capitol hill. doug mckelway is live with more. doug? >> since i last spoke to you a half hour ago there has been

one major new development and we understand the senate democratic leadership is destined for the white house this afternoon and it is scheduled to meet with the president in the oval office at 3:15. hopefully more progress will be made there than made here on capitol hill. let's start on the house side where the republicans learned late this morning where the president is out of hand and rejecting what they thought had been a promising proposal and it would have extended the debt ceiling for a few weeks while addressing some of the major drivers of our deficit spending. such things as social security, medicare and restructuring the tax code to some fundamental degree. they came away from their caucus meeting pretty much demoralized at the president's reaction to the plan. >> it doesn't appear as though the president wants anything except tax revenue. >> no deal as far as we are concerned. >> the president as rejected every offer we have mead and we will wait and see what the senate comes up with and if

the president comes back to the table. >> i appreciate her efforts to find a consensus. but the plan she suggested that i have seen and in writing, it is not going to go any place at this stage. >> that last sound bite from reid was his reaction on the senate side to a proposal that the republicans thought was promising. a proposal by susan collins of maine that would extended the debt ceiling for a little longer until january 31st and this would have kept the government open for six months and delayed the medical tax device for two years. as you heard, the majority leader harry reid rejected that and he explained why. also on the senate side, the majority leader harry reid was unable to muster the 60-vote threshold he needed to go ahead with a clean debt ceiling increase. that promised a response from the white house which read in part "it is unfortunate that

the limit imposed by senate democrats refused a yes or no vote. this would have taken it off the table and given our nation's businesses and economy the certainty we need. bottom line here today, no sign of progress. we only have five days until we hit that debt ceiling. don't look forward to anymore progress this week end unless something comes from the white house meeting. it is again slated for 3:15 in the oval office. >> doug mckelway is live on a busy capitol hill. >> how do we get to this point? it started when the house voted to approve legislation which denied funding for obamacare while keeping the government open through december 15th. and then during debate in the senate, the tea party favorite senator ted cruz launched into his marathon speech against obamacare. he started on september

24th and ended 21 hours later. so with no budget deal, by midnight on october 1st, the government shutdown took affect. four days later the house voted to pay furloughed federal workers after the shutdown ends. but on october 8th, the pressure began to mount with finger .ing -- finger-pointing over failed debt ceiling negotiations. the next day the house voted to pay for halted death benefits to military families. the president signed the measure into law on thursday. that same day, house republicans proposed a short-term proposal raising the debt ceiling by six weeks. yesterday senate republicans had their turn proposing ways to end the stalemate. that brings us to today. the house and the senate are holding sessions earlier this morning and wrapping and still month deal in sight on day 12 of the government shutdown. >> despite the shutdown several states are deciding to go ahead and open national parks and federal programs.

in new york, for example, the statue of liberty is reopening tomorrow. the state would pay more than $60,000 a day to run liberty island national park. dominic is live in los angeles with how other states and regions are taking similar action. dominic? >> hi, greg, they certainly are. a huge sigh of relief because the grand canyon is open to visitors. they had to delve into state funds and they had to ask for local money to give the department of the interior about $650,000 to keep it open for, well, at least the next week. they cannot pay the federal government's tab for long and they see this funding as a victory over washington. >> the government, the feds turned around on their wrong handed decision to not allow us to do this and way won. and we won. >> in utah the governor there

was the first state leader to try to get their parks open. he found $1.7 million to keep places like zion park and others open for up to 10 days. >> i would suggest to us all that utah is leading the way. we understand the challenges out there in washington, d.c. we worked together to try to find a solution that makes sense. it is the perverbial win-win. >> and a very iconic national park. mount rushmore in south dakota reopening on monday morning. that will be at a cost of about $15,200 a day. local organizations are throwing into the pot and that's up the government set up a buy of day of operations for the monument. mount rush mother bears the -- mount rush mother bears the faces of some of the biggest states men and one of the biggest closures of all. federal workers have tried to pray vent people from snapping photos. it was really a crunch

moment. >> thank you for the run down, dominic. >> greg, some extreme weather is having some serious consequences. a powerful storm system is now moving in on the region this weekend as areas recover from storms days ago. colorado is getting another early round of snow this fall. mountain areas are looking picturesque and it is just in time for the ski season. but unfortunately things were not so pretty in south dakota. some areas were reporting up to four feet of snow and the sudden snow and drop in temperatures were leaving and sadly leaving 100,000 cattle dead. most ranchers in the state have last between 50% and 75% of their livestock. many fear the economic loss will be huge when the final tally comes in. in the meantime, let's turn to overseas news. tens of thousands of villagers from india's eastern seaboard

is running for higher ground because of what you are looking at. there is a cyclone there. david is live from bangkok, thailand. david? >> hi, greg, yes, this is a massive storm. we even felt the edges in thailand just over a few days ago. the tropical cyclone has winds gusting 130 miles an hour and struck the coast of eastern india a few hours ago. it made landfall on the coast after sweeping in from the bay of bangor. they joined the typhoon warning centers that the gusts could reach as high as 184 miles per hour. many homes along the coast are made of mud and not likely to be swept away. a powerful cyclone killed 10,000 people in the same area back in 1999. the indian army has been put on stand by to provide aid and food in the affected areas. half a million people have

been moved away from the coast to escape the on slot. they are now in storm shelters. people on the ground are reporting that heavy winds and rain have brought down phone and electricity lines. 50 rescue teams will help people if they do get into difficulties. there is a real fear that the death toll could rise further in the next few hours. back to you, greg. >> thanks very much for the update on that. david piper. secretary of state john kerry is meeting with afghan president hamid karzai to discuss a security deal between the two nations. it will allow the american troops to remain in that country after the nato-lead military mission ends next year. meanwhile the u.s. forces in afghanistan capturing senior pakistani taliban commander. he is a member of an extremist group responsible for the failed 2010 time square bombing. and just last week another u.s. military operation in libya captured al-qaeda leader

al-libi. he is suspected of playing a major role in two u.s. embassy bombings in africa back in 1990 ai. let's bring in now retired lieutenant colonel of the u.s. marine corp and fox news military analyst bill cow wean. good to see you, colonel. >> good to be here. thank you. >> if you would explain the significance of these captures. >> in both cases it is a good reminder to all-americans that we are -- although the government here may be shutdown, our men and women serving overseas, our intelligence people, military law enforcement and cia are hard at work. these are key people we captured. the first guy from the taliban is very interesting because although he was -- his group was involved in the potential attack on time square, he is in fact the pakistani taliban. that's not the afghan taliban that we are fighting. we have a guy from the pakistani side and the pakistanis will want to take him away from us. they will be interested in

finding him in their hands and what it is he knows about what is happening in their own country. and that also shows the complexity of the enemies we are fighting out there. >> and would that be able to -- would we be able to use him as a bargaining tool? >> what a great question, thank you. remember, the pakistanis took that doctor who helped us get bin laden and threw him in jail for 33 years. it is outrageous that we have not gotten that man out of jail yet after what he did for our country chasing down, identifying the location of bin laden. i would like to think, arthel, that we would negotiate some deal to give the pakistanis this guy in exchange for that doctor who clearly did a lot of good for america and in fact the rest of the world. >> let's talk about now the capture of al-libi. that was like plucking a needle out of a hey stack. >> i think that will go down -- we don't know any real details of it. that would go down as one of our most interesting and difficult and intense operations that we have ever

conducted. i would even put that ahead with the bin laden raid. we have the american soldiers that is regular like the rest of us and deep inside a city and inside neighborhoods and clearly there are people watching out for foreigners coming in. they have done a lot of chase work on his whereabouts and on his routine. they knew exactly what they were up to. besides, there were three black cars involved. we had other stand by reaction forces somewhere around the area. we had people watching him even as he was picked up off the street. we had a fairly sizable force out of the army's delta force. not only did they get this gay without any failures whatsoever, they got him somewhere and got him out of the country before the libyans really knew. this has to be one of the finest and most dangerous and most difficult ops this military has undertaken and they did it flawlessly. >> let's go back to the state department. the state department is holding back hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to egypt.

now this is in the wake of the unrest. it is the tough egyptian military response against protesters who are angry over the ouster of president mohamed morsi. you just got back from the region. you said the plans to withhold the aid to egypt is a bad idea. why is that? >> terrible idea. quickly, 13.2 million people vote for morsi to become president and 22 million later signed a petition to move him out. when he tried to take over the country, the muslim brotherhood tried to take over the constitution. 33 million people go to the streets on june 30th to protest them. violence breaks out and the military says we will have a civil war if we don't do something they grab morsi and arrest him and they immediately hand over power to an interim president. in july 40 million egyptians went to the streets to support the general and his staff and the take over of the country on behalf of democracy and freedom.

egypt is one of our best partners. the suez canal is critical to the region. they take care of history and the israelis were the first people that stood up and said no, do thought deny them this aid. they need it and we need it for the security of the region. the continued effort of the best interest over there. taking that money away from them and trying to slap the generals around a little bit and slap the egyptians around a little bit, i think it sends a terrible message and it tells the muslim brotherhood we are standing back and supporting them. we should say we are not happy with what happened because it didn't quite follow our recipe, but the fact of the matter is the generals and the new constitution and the new leadership that will come in is in america's best interest. >> let me jump in if i may. by the way, we are showing pictures of the recent trip over there. i want to jump in, and you are talking about the strategic global positioning.

you believe the administration's consistent call for democratic reform for egypt sends an unfavorable message to egypt. i think you are suggesting it provides an opening for somebody like vladimir putin to cozy up to egypt. >> absolutely. when the void happens somewhere, somebody will want to move in. we have already said we will withhold a lot of the military equipment. half of the military equipment is soviet blocked equipment. it is old stuff they got from russia and the eastern block before. if we have a void we are not filling, vladimir putin, he will want to step in there and they will want to to offer aid to the egyptians. the egyptians feel like they have been one of our best partners in the middle east for well over 30 years. here we are slapping them around and treating them like little kids. if everything doesn't go our way, we will show you how it is going to be. we will suffer for those kind of decisions for not providing

the aid. at the end of the day, the egyptians rewrite their constitution and have elections and have a new government installed over there and the muslim brotherhood has invited to be a party. egypt has been a a better place, but we are not helping them get where they want to be. >> appreciate your time. >> thank you, arthel. >> of course. what started as a scenic train ride to view fall colors turned to horror. a truck driver hauling logs tried to beat a train. >> and x greg, a relaxing swim in the ocean leads to a vicious attack and tragic death. learn more about the microscopic killer. >> and what do the american people think of thosey elected to go to that place, washington, d.c., capitol hill. you can guess the answer. not much. coming up, the an greater back home.

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bacterial infections. 10 have died. the nypd is looking for five more people in connection to the brutal biker attack of the driver of an suv. eight bikers have been charged including an undercover police detective. and a train collides with a truck in west virginia. one person killed and another 23 were injured. the crash is under investigation. the political standoff between the white house and republicans angering more and more. day 12 of the deadline for raising the nation's debt ceiling. that is fast approaching. according to a new poll, 83% of those surveyed disapprove of congress. only 5% say they like the job coming is doing. 53% of americans now say they are dissatisfied with president obama's job performance, only 37% give mr. obama their approval.

jaime weinstein joins us, senior editor of "the daily caller." >> good to see you. >> let's take them separately, but let's talk about president obama's numbers. they are staggering. he has now dropped so low. he is 16 points underwater. has his unwillingness to negotiate until now taken a damaging toll and weakened his presidency? what do you think? >> i know his numbers look bad and they are bad, but they are only bad when you take them in ice lace -- in isolation. in comparison to congressmen unfortunately and for some who are hoping the republicans and conservatives in congress would win this battle, they actually look good compared to those in congress. >> he has fallen as low as i think he has in his presidency and the drop has been pro sip toc -- precipitous over the last few days. >> it is low, but i don't

think he is worried. he sees the comparison and he doesn't see himself as in bad shape as his opponents in congress. that's why he is not willing to negotiate at all. it has hurt him to some degree. in fact his health care bill in one poll has improved the perception of the nation as a whole have come to the bill and say it is approving of it more now since the shutdown. he sees his prospects have risen. >> our fox poll shows the opposite on obamacare. let me throw another one at you. maybe more damaging to the president than his approval rating are these numbers. 76% of americans think the country is headed in the wrong direction. that is an increase of 13 points since the government shutdown began. whether the president likes it or not he is considered the leader of washington. so are those numbers a

condemnation of his leadership skills? especially when he is seen playing golf two days before the shutdown, refusing to even talk about it. one can argue that's not leadership. it is ab -- abdocation? >> those who think the country is going in a great direction, who are those people? there is no question from the beginning when these negotiations began, not just as recent round of negotiations x but when they had previous problems a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, the president's leadership has been a bimal. bob woodward detailed it in his book over the 2011 fight ever on the debt ceiling. this is not a president who has shown great leadership. however in this current crisis right now with the shutdown, the republicans went into this battle without a strategy. they called for something that was impossible to imagine them getting which was the funding of obamacare. >> it was futile. >> it was futile.

now they are in this mess and they can't see a way out of it. >> let me underscore what you are arguing here. let's look at the nbc "wall street journal" poll. it gives the president 31% of the blame for the shutdown. but the gop gets a whooping 53 % of the blame. again is that largely because republicans pursued this futile if not dilutional strategy to de fund or delay obamacare. they of course now have completely and utterly abandoned. >> it is in that poll i was talking about. i know you had a fox news poll that showed the opposite. the approval went from 31 to 38%. when in reality the focus of this, if it was not to fund the obamacare strategy to shutdown the government would be on the terrible implementation of the health care policy and the health care law and the exchanges. the idea that the approval would be go up for obamacare during this period is staggering to me. it can only be because the

focus is on the shutdown and not the terrible i'm implementation of the bill. >> the conservatives are arguing in an op-ad that they have elevated the focus on terrible it looks. 60% would vote to defeat every mep of -- member of congress. but that is misleading. that's not how voting happens. they are voted on in their district and those numbers can and usually are dramatically different. >> absolutely. there is a strange dye cot me. when you ask the american public at a whole do they like congress? congress are all bums. throw them out. do you like joe smith, your congressman? he is the best. he is really good. that changes dramatically. and i think most people on the left and right think it is unlikely in the next round of elections and the republican house will go to the democrats. the democrats are going to get

enough seats to take over the house. that's unlikely to occur. but generally right now, i think the best that can be hoped for is that somehow this is resolved in a way where there are negotiations where somebody is a real leader. paul ryan with the democrats are trying to come up and address entitlement reform which remains to be -- >> the plan was rejected as well. so it looks like we are back at square one. >> without question. >> thanks very much. >> i am big on golf. >> as the clock ticks down to the debt ceiling deadline, we are going to take a look at what the stalemate in washington is really going to cost us. >> and the fate of obamacare. we were just talking about it. but maybe it could rest with hispanics. we will have more on the key demographic in a live report. stick around for that.

>> welcome back. about one-third of the nation's uninsured are latino. that is nearly 16 million people we are talking about meaning that hispanic enrollment could be critical to the success of president obama's new health care program. brian joins us from our new york city newsroom with details. >> it is true. the numbers suggest that latinos stand to gain the most from the affordable care act. 10 million are benefiting. the obama administration needs them first aside from the widely reported glitches, enrolling uninsured hispanics comes with its own set of challenges like making sure there are must have navigators to assist in applications. the website will not be able to enroll people until october 21st. and undocumented immigrants do not qualify for any benefits under the affordable care act and this has caused confusion in some mixed status

families. >> a lot of our communities who are not insured work in very physically demanding jobs. we can tell them that long-term the process of insurance is important for them. i think it is getting them engaged and it is doing it from a positive note. this is good for you, your family and your future. >> the efforts are so strong because latino rtz country -- latinos are the country's youngest generation. enrolling people is vital for the on-line health exchanges. the white hows says it needs three million young and healthy people toen rough will to keep premiums from rising. >> when the insurers come back to price premiums on january 1st, they are going to make the premiums reflect the pool of enrollees they get. if the pool of enrollees they get is relatively thick and expensive, that will make the premium be higher.

>> the white house is relying on grassroots efforts from 30 hispanic organizations and businesses to educate the community. one health clinic i spoke to said the number one question for potential enrollees is still what is obamacare. greg? >> it is hard to believe after almost four years of it they are still saying, huh? brian, thanks very much. president obama is meeting with senate democrats in the oval office later today. the white house and congress continued to haggle over a budget. they are haggling over the debt ceiling will it run up a tab of billions of dollars and it could cost business owners more money if the u.s. stops paying its bills. so far the confidence in the american economy hasn't been this low sincely men brothers -- since lieman brothers imploded.

joining us is the ceo of the powell financial group. good to have you. >> good to be here. >> let's start with the impact on wall street and the trickle down blow to the american people. we are talk their everyday budgets and personal spending funds. >> on wall street, everyone with a 401k has noticed what has happened until the last two days. the last two day when's it looked like the president and congress were going to start ing and get serious you had a 300-point day on friday and you saw enthusiasm again. up until that point we were looking at no games for october and going into the hole for october. you have a 401k plan and it will make you lose confidence. >> the stalemate continues as we know. let's talk about this, at what point do you think this will manifest in unemployment numbers? >> it will happen, very, very soon. not for federal workers.

they don't need to hunker down. they need to wait. if a private contractor you will not get paid. when you get furloughed, you are not going to get any money other than unemployment. that's a lot less than what you were making. those people are going to have to hunker down. their budgets will be different. they are not eating at a restaurant and not even mcdonalds. they will be eating a the ho home. they won't be in the malls and thinking about christmas presents. they will have to hunker down because they don't know how long it will be until they get another paycheck. >> and then we get to the gdp. >> that's part of the gdp. that guy is a my cross cos sim about what is going on in society. we are in the fifth year of the economic recovery. the fifth year is a tough year. it is always slowing down. we don't need help to slow it down further. it has been a lack luster year to begin with. now we are shaving .2 points or .5 points, depending on how

long this goes on. it is not good for the economy and for our neighbors. >> when you look at the united states of america nobody can believe the united states of america can go into default. >> nobody can believe we can go into default because we can't afford to pay. but we can choose to go into default by saying we are not going to pay. typically countries de put on their debt because they have run out of money and lenders won't give anymore and we have sit seens who -- citizens who are demanding service and they choose and they always choose their citizens so they go into default. that's not what is happening here. we are saying we don't want that $17 trillion to get bigger. it is not quite -- it is a little under 17 trillion. some day we end up in that position if we don't get a handle on this now. if as a result of this interest rates on sour debt on average -- on our debt go up

billions each and every year and comes off the top instead of going to services. and that is really where the dilemma lies. >> that's where the argument of getting the spending under control comes in. >> you need to do is it when interest rates are low. you can see astronomical rates. it is nothing except for germany. they are paying 5%, 8% on the debt. we are paying about 2.6. it is a huge difference. >> that's because their credit is bad. that's what we are trying to avoid. >> we got down -- down graded in 2011. and we could get down graded again. >> patricia powell founder and ceo of the powell group, thank you very much. >> i want better news next time. >> we all do. here is good news, roll over the principal and just pay the interest on the debt and that is 8% of revenue. no need to default. that's my slowings. a tragic case of child abuse ends in the death of the son of an nfl legend. now the boyfriend of the

toddler's mother is in custody. we will tell you about the charges.

south dakota police now say the 2-year-old son of a pro football star was beaten to death by his mother's boyfriend. the son of minnesota viking and last year's league mvp adrian peterson died yesterday in sioux falls. police arrested this guy,

joseph patterson, charging him with aggravated assault and aggravated battery of an infant. that is a candlelight vigil that sprung up in sioux falls. peterson has not spoken publicly about the death, but said quote, thank you to my fans and other fans and fans of other teams for their support. trial attorney rachelself and defense attorney nicole board. nicole, i go to you. you would upgrade these charges to murder or manslaughter? >> absolutely. i think it is definitely a murder. in someplaces it could become a capital murder because the victim of the murder is under the 6 of 6. under the age of 6. he could definitely be facing more serious charges. >> this suspect, joseph patterson, has a history of domestic incidents, do domestic violence and it is no surprise there given what happened here.

how does that change the legal equation if at all. >> at this point he has a 2004 conviction i believe, a 2010 and 2011 restraining order for domestic violence. and in one case it was domestic violence against the child of a girlfriend. it is on point to the facts of this case and that's why a judge may keep it out. if it jury is to hear that he in the past was found guilty of abusing a child it would be substantially more prejudicial than probative and it could color their judgment as to whether he in fact damaged this child. but the facts against him right now are looking really, really bad. >> nicole, what about the mother? she is grieving obviously for her lost child, but i wonder if she bears some legal responsibility, for example, if she knew or should have known of the violent past of this boyfriend with whom she

left her infant child could she be charged with something like child endangerment and neglect? >> it depends on what she knew. based on the facts we have right now, it is impossible to say unfortunately. it is a horrible tragedy. i know the police will be talking to everything who had contact with this child in the hours before his death. i'm sure they will look into that question. >> let's turn to another high-profile case. attorneys for james holmes who is accused of opening fire in the colorado movie theater and killing 12 and injuring so many others in a masacre. they try now to get evidence thrown out of court in his murder trial. in particular a note on a dating web page that could work against his insanity plea. rachel, what about this? two days before he commits this heinous act, the masacre in the movie theater, he accesses his two dating pages and at one poimt in time he

puts down will you visit me in prison? as he is trolling for girlfriends. doesn't that defeat his claim of insanity? >> i don't believe it does. we know the facts of the case and what all of the evidence has shown. he was planning this for quite a longtime. even with that information the judge accepted in june his plea to not guilty by reason of insanity. i don't think this torpedoes his case based on that. i mean, i don't. i think that he is looking at it being more difficult now and as a defense lawyer i would absolutely want to try to keep it out. >> nicole, i don't see how it does president for pea toe his defense. torpedo his defense. it is not like he has a defect that you don't know right from wrong. if days before he commits this terrible act he knows it is wrong because he will be in prison and he wants girls to visit him in prison. that's knowledge, right? >> sure. it is certainly why the

prosecutors want to use it. they say, look, you knew society would think you knew what was wrong. that's why they want the evidence in. but this evidence can be tricky. it is difficult to prove who makes the entries you see on a computer. i think the attorneys are going to have a difficult time making this a constitutional claim. >> yeah. rachel, once the defense invoked insanity under colorado law and it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt shifts to the prosecution to disprove his insanity. it is a tough burden normally, but in this case? >> it is a tough burden. i think in this case people are having such a difficult time grasping what this kid did. in lay men's terms you look at something like this and you say how could somebody do this who wasn't insane unless it was pure evil. it is the jury's determination

to determine whether he was legally insane at the time. that's when both sides can duke it out presenting their various experts and their various witnesses. they say it could take up to eight months. >> this will be a battle of the experts. >> absolutely. and they will bring in doctor after doctor of a doctor to evaluate each piece of evidence they bring and a different perspective. this is one of the reasons this will take a longtime. >> good to see you both. thank you so much. >> good to see you. thank you. despite the on going government shutdown families of service members killed since the shutdown began will now be able to receive benefits from the department of defense. full details on the uproar that lead to the deal coming up.

there is controversy over what many describe as a disgrace. they say family of service members killed after the government shutdown began will start receiving their death benefits as early as next week. liz breath pran -- elizabeth prann has more. hi, elizabeth. >> they will resume paying

death benefits to the families of the fallen soldiers. this has taken pressure off of the military family group that has offered to pay the benefits including the $100,000 payment. the press expect -- the press secretary said it reads in part, with congress no longer providing the dod from the families directly he is pleased with the dod will be able to fulfill its responsibilities. the administration says it could have been avoided if congress didn't shutdown the government. >> the real suffering as well as the inconvenience could have been avoided and could have been avoided in the future if the house would simply reopen the government. >> during the gop weekly address, the chairman of the house armed services committee says the house has been passing legislation to restore funding to not only military families, but programs nationwide and putting an end to the stalemate that has captivated the country. >> and it is about ensuring that our troops in harm's way

and their families are taken care of. it was the same way they take care of us at shoam. preserving the -- at home. preserving the american dream. that's what this is about. >> chuck hagel is saying that he remains deeply concerned about the impact of the on going shutdown and what it is doing to the department operations. arthel, back to you. >> elizabeth prann, thanks, elizabeth. the super hero surprise for a soldier's child. >> daddy! >> isn't that great? army captain coming home from a six-month tour in afghanistan as if he is not hero enough he called on a few super friends to join him. captain america, the incredible hulk, batman, they were all there. where are the super hero women? >> the wife was all we needed, the mom. she is the super hero.

what a lovely story. so happy for that family. >> that will do it for us. >> stick around. a healthy you and carol alt is up next. we will see you again at 6:00 eastern.

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