healthy you. >> the fox news alert, president obama now meeting this hour with senate democrats at the white house and as the budget talks take on new urgency. welcome to a new hour inside america's news headquarters. earlier today a senate team rejected a plan to raise the debt ceiling, making it only five days and counting until our country faces the risk of defaulting on its debts. the search for common ground is coming as the partial government shutdown enters the 12th day. dougdoug mckelway is live on capitol hill with the latest. >> the latest we can tell you

is that meeting of the senate democratic leadership and the oval office is still on going. it got underway at 3:15 this afternoon. we got a notice about 10 minutes ago that the meeting was still going on. we have got no readout of it as of yet. included in the meeting, senator richard durbin and senator patty murray. it is a good indication that something is happen thrg which may lead to further talks and further negotiations. we can't be sure of that. we also know that earlier this afternoon the senate democrats formally rejected a proposal by moderate republican senator susan collins of maine. her proposal would have extended the debt limit until january 31st of 2014. and it would have delayed the medical device tax for two years. here is senate majority leader reid on why senate democrats rejected what the republicans thought was a good proposal. >> i appreciate her efforts to

find a consensus. the plan she suggested that i have seen in writing and it is not going to go any place at this stage. >> on the house side we have heard that some republican leaders have called it a day. they have gone home from the day and as the president rejected out of happened that is on the good house proposal. it would have extended the debt ceiling for a couple of weeks and while beginning to modestly tinker with some of the drivers of our deficit spending including immediate medicare and social security and would have revised the tax code. here are a few republicans reacting after their caucus meeting this morning to the president's rejection of the ryan plan. >> you probably heard already we have met -- apparently we are getting a bait and switch strategy from the white house. >> we are standing firm. the president wants a blank check. no deal as far as we are concerned. >> with only five days now

until we reached the debt limit the things are looking very, very dim. senator durbin did tell our producer that the senate democrats do have and i am quoting here several somethings in reserve if they can't solve the debt ceiling impasse by wednesday. he didn't go into any detail about what those several somethings are. it is probably fair to say that republicans also have several somethings in reserve if they punch up against this deadline. the trouble is with both of these sides neither want to hear what the several somethings are. >> only in the halls of congress would you come up with a phrase several somethings. go figure. >> yeah, several somethings, go figure. >> doug doug mckelway, thank you very much. several states are reopening. some of the most famous landmarks after striking deals with the fed ssments in airs airs the -- in arizona they could go to the grand canyon. they must foot the bill

themselves and face the risk of not being paid. so far utah, colorado, south dakota have all agreed to the deal and so has new york state. that means lady liberty will be back in business beginning tomorrow. the public will be able to visit the statue of liberty. secretary of state john kerry is leaving afghanistan today after meeting with the president hamid karzai. the secretary says a partial agreement has been reach owed a by -- reached on a bilateral security deal that affects the security of our troops. connor powell is developing this story. connor? >> this long-term security agreement between the united states and afghanistan has been in the works for more than a year. even president karzai and secretary of state kerry appear to be making progress, it is far from a done deal. kerry was going to leave today , but he is staying in kabul to extend the talks for a few more hours, at least for another day. just like in iraq three years ago, the major sticking point

between iraq and of afghanistan is immunity. they ingisted that the u.s. force -- insisted that the u.s. face any crime. washington is never going to allow that to happen just like they did not allow that to happen in iraq three years ago. as of now it appears president karzai is going to leave it up to the afghan parliament and try dahl leaders -- and tribal leaders. it is a big if if those groups approve this deal. they will defer to them. but if a deal isn't reached in the near future, the obama administration has threatened to pull all troops out of afghanistan by next year. currently the pentagon hopes to leave roughly 10,000 or so american troops in the war torn country to battle insurgents and al-qaeda and to train afghan security forces without a deal that simply will not happen.

without u.s. and international support the fragile afghan government will not last long on its own. there is a lot riding on this deal. and although they are making progress right now, it is far from a done deal, guys. back to you. >> connor, thanks very much. the next step for u.s. forces in afghanistan, we are going to discuss their mission and challenges in just a few minutes. admitted nsa leaker edward snowden is making a public appearance for the first time in months. the 30-year-old activist and accused spy captured in a series of videos. they were posted on a whistle blower website, wikileaks, which supports him. he is seen accepting an award of sorts in moscow where he addressed the audience and warned against the use of surveillance programs. listen. >> they hurt our economy. they hurt our ri. our country. they limit our ability to think and seek and live and be

creative and to have relationships. [inaudible]. >> snowden has been granted asylum in russia, but he faces espionage charges in the united states. about one-third of the nation's uninsured are latinos. that's nearly 16 million people, meaning the latino enrollment could be critical to the success of president obama. we go live to the new york city newsroom with more. they are the ideal target trying to sign people up to obamacare. >> they are, greg. latinos stand to gain the most from the affordable care act. 10 million hispanics are eligible for benefits, but it is also true. the obama administration needs them just as badly. look at this. there are 16 million uninsured latinos in the united states. that means one out of every

three uninsured americans is hispanic. >> they were the most uninsured because we work in jobs that don't offer it or were independent contractors. we live in states that if you work and earn some thk you won't be eligible for any public program. bottom line is we are a working people who work in jobs and still can't get health insurance. >> latino rtz country's youngest pop lakes with a median age of 27. and enrolling young people is vital for the on-line health exchanges. they need three million young and healthy people to enroll to keep premiums from rising. >> when the insurers come back to price premiums next january 1st, they are going to make the premiums reflect the pool of enrollees that they get. if the pool of enrollees they get is relatively thick and expensive, that will make the premiums be higher.

>> enrolling uninsured hispanics comes with its own set of challenges like making sure there are enough navigators to assist an application. and undocumented immigrants do not qualify for any benefits causing confusion in some mixed status families. and the government spanish language website will not be able to enroll people until at least october 21st. the white house is relying on grassroots efforts from about 30 hispanic organizations and businesses to educate the community. greg? >> quite a challenge. brian, thanks very much. deciding the fate of u.s. troops in afghanistan after next year. secretary of state john kerry is working on that deal. find out what that will mean for thousands of our men and women in the military. and nat geo wild on an epic adventure to save the one horned rhino. >> everybody is under an intense amount of pressure to get the job done and the collar on and the heck out of dodge. >> we will get much more on

this dangerous, but vital fight to preserve one of nature's fiercest creatures.

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will answer some of your questions and help you find the aarp medicare supplement plan that's right for you. kerry has left afghanistan where he said a partial deal on security has been reached. he is dealing with keeping american troops on the ground. some of them at least in the war torn country. he was meeting with afghan president hamid karzai trying to finalize an agreement that would keep as many as 10,000 u.s. troops there past the 2014 withdraw deadline. letsy talk about the u.s. mission in afghanistan with our analyst, retired general bob scales in the u.s. army. after a decade of war in afghanistan many would say why do we need to stay there? isn't that because that's where the terrorists still are? >> that's absolutely right, greg.

remember where al-qaeda came from. they came from the heartland of afghanistan. now they are prince plea low -- principally located in pakistan. if america is going to continue the war against terrorism, it needs a lily pad. if needs some type of military forward station that is plopped in the middle of the enemy's heartland. you can launch rates from the sea as we saw somalia, but if you will strike at the enemy's heartland and knock him off balance and keep him from restarting his training camps and prevent his structure from coming back, as a minimum the united states needs to maintain the ability to do drone strikes, to do targeted raids and to do strategic intelligence gathering both human intelligence and electronic intelligence and you can't do that from the ocean 1100 miles away. if we were to pull everybody outcome pleatly and no american presence there. the way it is in iraq, what do

you think would happen to the government of hamid karzai or the government that is going to follow him immediately. >> two things. number one, his source of finance will dry up. as we know the karzai government is supported 90% of donations from the united states and nato. all i have to do is refer you to recent history. remember what happened to the soviet, complete withdraw and the british withdraw from the second world war. something like the taliban followed by al-qaeda will fill the strategic void we leave behind and sadly, greg, the whole process will start all over again. >> one of the conditions that karzai is imposing is to make u.s. forces susceptible to afghan law. we will never agree to that, will we? >> absolutely not. this is a sat toc of forces agreement. we have them with many --

something like 60 nations throughout the world. it is not a get out of free -- get out of free card for the united states military. it is a way to maintain soldiers under the umbrella of american military justice. it is absolutely the way we operate. unfortunately in iraq we let it get out of hand. there wasn't a lot of enthusiasm and you can see what a mess that left behind. our last remaining haven in the midst of the is in afghanistan. i don't think karzai will back down because he can't give up on american aid. he knows the minute the last american soldier leaves there, it is going to be total chaos. >> listen, money talks. >> absolutely. >> let me make one other p oi nt, isn't there a larger geo -- geo political step in iran? shoo -- should the united

states ever have to act against iran, this lily pad is going to be a key strategic base, not only for u.s. forces, but for intelligence and as a refuge for american forces this is key. remember, greg, we are talking about 10,000 soldiers. it is a small footprint and it will be mainly special operating forces and intelligence and probably the maintenance of drones inside of afghanistan. 10,000 may sound like a lot, but for the mission they have it is a small force indeed. >> can't allow al-qaeda and the taliban to reinstitute themselves and take over the country once again. it is good to see you, sir. thanks so much. >> thank you, greg. >> >> one-horned rhinos are being slaughters in dangerous numbers. one horn can fetch tens of thousands of dollars on the black market? what is being done to protect these rare animal frtz poachers out there? coming up next, we will go on

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taking its cameras to the other side of the world for an up close world at the one horned rhinoceros. it airs tomorrow night and it's hosted by billy bush who traveled with a group fighting the poachers. they're trying to save the threatened animals from extinction. >> i'm heading halfway around the world to the jungles of florida nepal to drive to say

the rhino being slaughtered by poachers. i've never done anything like this in my life. how do i look my look? i'm going to stop the poachers. >> here now is lee boston from the world wildlife fund. this looks tremendous. it will be fun to watch as a viewer and very disconcerting to viewers. talk to us about what they're going to see here. >> so i think the viewers will see a really, really exciting program here, but also a sobering one. this is a journey with billy bush and worldwide "life" found that really takes him from the comfort of malibu and l.a. to the jungles of florida pnepal. he goes on night patrol, a river

patrol, they look at the issues of poaching. she go to what he describes as accurately as a genocide museum of wildlife. >> billy is a good selection because he does help raise the profile. he's a well-known guy. plus he's used to dealing with stars and celebrities who were arguably more vicious than the one horned rhino, right? >> yeah. this was as much a journey for him as it was for us. and he really took it on with gusto and really got into it. and i think the most exciting thing for him obviously was when we got to collar the rhino and really show what the fight is all about to save these rhinos, which are endangered around the world. >> when you collar the rhino, explain the reason why. >> so the main rope for collaring a rhino is we want to know better about how they behave, where they travel, where the habitat is, what they're

doing. but also we want to eventually move rhinos across the country into other parks and set up new breeding groups that will allow the species to better adapt. >> why is it that these black market poachers seem to be able to conduct the killing of these endanger eed rhinos with impuni? >> it's there to feed the appetites of newly rich chinese and vietnamese. it's a low risk and high reward crime. unlike drug running or trafficking of humans, the penalties are much less and on which often people get off with a slap on the wrist. >> they move faster than 30 miles per hour. so this is dangerous stuff.on t. >> they move faster than 30 miles per hour. so this is dangerous stuff. >> you do not want to be on the ground with them.

we run in jeeps most of the time. you do not want to be on the ground with them because they can run faster than 30 miles per hour. they have really poor eyesight. so if one is chasing you, you probably just want to throw an article of clothing and hopefully he'll get distracted by that. >> you took billy to an area where stored is millions of dollars worth of hydes and rhino tusks. talk to us about that. >> that was the most powerful moment i think emotionally in the show. because there is everything there. there is tiger skins, leopard skins and rhino skin. and some of it still has the meat attached to it, it's drying in this massive cave and you'll see this emotional moment where he has to put his shirt across his nose because the stench is so bad from the rotting flesh. >> it's amazing. i've looked at some of the video. it's breath taking and a little scary at times.

so we'll be al to watch this tomorrow night, 9:00 eastern time. on nat geo wild? >> yeah. at 9:00 eastern time. and you can find out more by going to nat geo wild's website. >> it's really a terrific film. people should watch it. it's an important subject, endangered one horned rhinos. and they're not the only endangered species out there. lee, thank you so much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. that will do it for this hour. inside america's news headquarters. i'll be back in one hour for fr now. more of the day's top stories with the five is coming up next.

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