>> a outrage. they stormed the castle. but will obama meet their demands. monday on "the kelly files." >> they come here to kill us and we worry about what they think of us. why would you give criminal advancement? get the hell out of jiri leetest egg head power, put on your big boy pants.

>> mr. president, did you win the noble peace prize? yes, you are the one. give it back. >> let me see if i got this right. the national mall including the world war ii memorial honoring those who gave their lives for us is closed. veterans who fought in that war and their families unable to gain access because of the government shut down. but then within days after those vets tried to gain access to the memorials miraculously the mall opened. wom hello. welcome to justice. a special sunday edition of justice. this week in spite of the government shut down in spite of veterans and their families access to the national mall the obama administration changes course, shows its true colors and opens the mall. not for american citizens but for undocumented immigrants. really? the obama administration opened the mall so that undocumented immigrants, aka, illegal aliens

could protest and demand amnesty for all 12 million of them. they want u.s. citizenship and all of the benefits that go with it and they want it now. guess who one of the featured speakers of this protest was? no other than her royal heinous, nancy pelosi. and for their listening pleasure the protest dubbed cam meino amr cano included a concert by the mexican band. the protestors get to do whatever they want and be moaning their own economic status they take over from new york to california.

they disrupted traffic frightened children on their way to school and practically bankrupted local businesses. 2600 of them arrested at a cost of $17 million in new york city police over time alone. not to mention the cost of taxpayers for the clean up itself. now the organizers of this week's cam me cano rally said the national mall was opened and they were given clearance based on their first amendment rights. really? you know, this seems like nothing more than blatant favoritism, preferential treatment by the obama administration and buying votes for the 2014 election. you contrast that with a not so subliminal dislike for veterans and their military. you remember benghazi and the

refusal to bury the young men and women in action. somehow the military doesn't seem to matter. it is all about politics. the rest of us nothing more than talk in a political chess game. we close the mall to americans, keep the vets out and open it up to those demanding a piece of the pie at our table so we are never invited to dinner in the first place. we ditch the families of those who gave their lives and reward those who broke the law to come here. mine is not a commentary on illegal immigration. that is a whole other issue. what i am talking about tonight, is the disrespectful treatment of american citizens by an administration out of control that rolls out the red carpet for those we never invited in.

the america that i am watching is almost unrecognizable. thank you president obama. many today gathered to protest the closing of the world war ii memorial. here with a report on that is peter doocy. >> as the crowds started to swell at the world war ii memorial protestors took down the metal barricades that surrounded this entire memorial and laid them on the nearby grass allowing hundreds of veterans and others to stream into the world war ii memorial that is officially closed while the government is shut down. >> these are open air memborial very open to the federal government. >> what do you both hope to see happen after today's rally? >> hope to see the politicians get their acts together and quit punishing the citizens.

>> from here protestors hope to march up 17th street to the white house expressing their disgust with how they treat vet tans over the shut down. a 91-year-old world war ii veteran spoke about what today's turnout meant to him. >> it is very exciting. i appreciate it. it is worth every bit of the time that i spent. dear friends are all around here. >> as the rally was winding down today an honor flight full of world war ii veterans arrived. the monday uchlt is closed but a v -- the monument is closed but a veteran shook everybody's harshed and said welcome to the memorial. >> coming up, day 13 of the shut down. what is going on in dc? the democratic and republican

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>> day 13 of the government shut down, no resolution, no answers, no leadership. all politics. with me two leaders we look to for answers. lia inge gals and congressman john fleming from louisiana. come on guys, did you hear that sound? >> yes. >> america is disgusted with all of you and they want to get rid of a whole lot of you. what do you have to say for yourself and please don't blame the other guy. i want to start with you congressman a congressman? >> what happeperhaps we ought t them in a room and not leave until it is done. it is really an embarrassment. you say don't blame the other but we have our own feelings unfortunately i feel sorry for

speaker boehner because the tea party is holding him captive. >> but then again congressman when you say you feel sorry for boehner, people can say they feel sorry for the democrats because you have a president who says i am not going to negotiate until you agree with everything that i take to the table. can you spanned to that? >> i agree with that statement. we have sent 11 different pieces of legislation that would get the government up and going. he doesn't negotiate. i have never seen a president who doesn't negotiate with con before hes but negotiates with the president of iran and the president of russia. >> we under and what politics is all about you try to make the other guy look bad and you come to the table with two different

views and two different ideologies. of course they are going to disagree. isn't it your obligation to roll up your sleeves an get the job done? do you realize america is upset with all of you? >> i realize that. you can only negotiate if both sides give and take. we shouldn't be fiddling with the national debt or fooling around with it. we shouldn't be shutting down the government. the president doesn't say he won't negotiate. he won't negotiate with a gun to his head. we have an obligation to pay our bills and obligation to keep the government open. once we do that we negotiate. we have kicked the can down the road we need to stick together and find a grand plan to bring our budget more in balance than

this is now and stop pointing fingers. what happens with speaker boehner he's got the tea party republicans who won't give him the vote. >> i am not into trashing the other party and americans don't want to hear it. >> you are asking me my opinion. i am giving you my impression. >> let me ask you a question. the national mall is closed to veterans. i think what we ought to do is not clean your offices, not clean the hallways of congress force you not to go home to get the job done. i am going to move over to congressman fleming. what congressman elli talked about i won't address the issue of the president talking about a gun to his head which is outrageous visual and language to tfor the president. what do republicans need to do? where do they give?

>> congressman engel knows negotiations never come to a deader an end without a deadline. give me everything i want then i will negotiate with you. both of you are doing it again. what we need is for you guides to recognize you guys keep raising the limit. you kick the can down the road i agree with you congressman engel, the agreement is we will do it again until after the electioning so we don't have to make the cuts that the american people want. do you agree with that? do you think we ought to kick the can down again until 2018? >> of course not. i think we need to come up with a grand plan that is good for the country.

>> we have to have entitlements but we have to cut tax loopholes. it is a combination of both. they have sent us a clean cd. we should pass it. democrats will vote for it and 2 22 republicans will vote for it. if speaker boehner would put it on the floor it would pass. >> congressman fleming what do you say to that? >> judge. cr would not pass the house. it was attempted before it will not pass. it wouldn't pass. the only way to put it budget in the balance is pass entitlements. >> what happens if we default? what if we do default? >> if we come to the october 17th deadline we will

not default. we have plenty of cash flow to cover our debt service. over time it will effect how we conserve the people. we should get on with the business and get it resolved. >> do you think it will happen before thursday? >> the interest rates will go up. for the first time in the history of the united states we really cannot be cavalier about this. will we should pass the clean cd and get together and do our jobs. >> and finally, as you go back to your districts, gentlemen, do you hear people complaining? do you realize that you can't keep doing this to us? >> judge, let me tell you that i have had town halls speaking to tens of thousands of my constituents. i can't get them on the subject of the shut down. all they want to talk about is the problems with obama care and why we haven't funded and re --

de funded and repealed it. obama care and shutting down the the government is like mixing apples with oranges. they shouldn't have done this. really destructive. if you don't like obama care -- >> there is proof to what he is saying the problem is they waited you out on this one. now it is up and on the web site that doesn't even work one that we paid $400 million for. who knows when it is going to work. >> this is the -- it is only going to get worse from here, judge. >> let's hope it gets better. >> i disagree. it will get a lot better. >> you are in trouble if you don't make this better. congressman engel and congressman fleming. thank you for being with us tonight. >> coming up, he launched a one-man mission to pay tribute to our fallen heros while dc failed him. the man behind the lawn mower is next. later the blame game continues. the biggest loser, congress.

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>> my next guest is a rig layer guy from south carolina who saw the dc memorials with over grown lawns, bare kids and trash on the ground. he picks up his lawn mower and starts cleaning up. he has inspired hundreds of others to join hitz efforts. with me the lawn mower man>> i

am pleased to be here. >> how do you feel about your new found notoriety? did you start with that intent in mind? >> no, ma'am, certainly not. my goal was to prevent headlines not to make them. i was concerned about the vulnerabilities of our memorials and monuments as a result of being under staffed and one thing led to another and before i knew it i was the head janitor down at the memorials. >> had you ever done anything like this before and did you think people would be inspired and follow you and do this with you? >> no, ma'am, i had no idea what because before me. i am flattered to have the attention of our country. i think americans are fed up the politicians are prostituting the integrity of our country with i am rhetoric and we need to

reinstate the generations before and stop pass fying low self-esteem of the politicians. >> what do you think about the fact that the mall is closed and it is knotted being maintained? >> it doesn't make any sense. we can't hold our heros up here one minute and put our love and respect on hold because the government can't figure out how to make ends meet. the country is fed up with it. we have to come together so americans can reinstate the integrity that we are the leaders of the free world. we are not looking good and it is embarrassing. how do we take it out on veterans people who fortified the boundaries of our country. the reason i am allowed to be an artist are because of soldiers

who have gone to war before me. these guys have gone to war with hand to hand come back -- combat. the philippines have gone with their hands up against -- >> chris, you are not a veteran. yet you are -- you have such admiration for the veterans? you are someone who has tremendous respect for them. where does all of this come from? >> it is rooted deep in all americans. it really comes down to how you were raised. it is common sense to support the veterans and support the military. they are the true voice of our country. they are out there putting our lives on the line and we need to hold them up in high regard. the moment we hold our soldiers in high regard it is a moment that we have really sunk to the bought come it is unacceptable. we are ashamed of our

government. we have got to do something and we have got to do it fast. people needs jobs and people need to feel good about our government. we can't have trash blowing around on the memorials. these memorials are the moral compass of our nation and our world. we have to stay on top of them. >> it is interesting. you talk about how the rest of the world lax at us and how you reflect on this based upon how other people look at us. many americans, many veterans are very grateful for what you have done. you have inspired a great number of people. chris cox, thanks so much. >> thank you, judge. it was a pleasure to be here this evening. >> thank you. coming up do you think the government shut down and the debt crisis won't effect you? we will breakdown how the crisis in washington could and will take a chunk out of your wallet. don't forget to vote in tonight's instapoll.

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flights will resume. in addition to government shut down our nation seniors have another concern. social security. there is no word on when the government will announce how much it will adjust payments in january. one analysis suggests bonl a 1.5% hike. like last year, that is smallest since 1975. i'm robert grairks now back to justice with judge janine. "juste jeani jeanine. >> do you think it's worst the risk not to raise the debt ceiling? >> i think it's not a good idea to go through the debt ceiling deadline. that being said, though, i think it's irresponsible for the president who when he was a senator decided no the to raise the debt ceiling it is irresponsible to scare people. it should be the opposite. >> who knows the rate congress

is going there might be a few fist fights next week. in a speech this week president obama talked about this that he likened default to a nuclear bomb a weapon too horrible to use. should the president be trying to use these kinds of fear tactics on the american people? with me conservative radio host chris plant from dc and pollster kelly ann conway with me here in new york. i am going to start with you. we have heard that republicans are anarchists and terrorists and they have bombs strapped to their test. what do you think of the president's tactics or lack there of? ? >> i suppose it's a substitute for a leadership. it is a substitute for negotiating. personally honestly and what my listeners are saying this is

reprehensible. >> the problem is republicans are indeed suffering despite what you say is reprehensible. how do you explain it? >> ter resterrorists with wombs attached to them and arsonists. will our friends in the news media. enough of the american people have a little bit of news are buying into it. republicans come up with offer after offer, compromise after compromise. the president and harry reid continued to shoot them down including yesterday more opportunities and compromise. >> i have to tell you with all due respect people are tired of hearing the other side what they want to know. what can be done at this point

and can you talk about what congress can do not blaming each other? >> okay, well that's kind of hard because i think chris and i like this every week once or twice a week. the reality is, even though i am a progressive liberal proud democratic talk show host 45 percent are conservative and they even say enough is enough. what the republicans can use is stop the fragmentation and reunite. both sides need this to act in the best interest of the american people. bottom line is these are separate instances. your guys wanted to de fund obama care you got a government shut down. >> the american public don't even go over it. >> absolutely. >> now what do you do? >> when you have china saying we need to have a de americanized world, both left and right need to realize that we are their employers. we can vote them out left or right and they have a

responsibility to get their act together to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling and move forward. >> kelly ann conway i am going to ask you now. the american public is fed up. the numbers are unbelievable now. they can't blame each other any more. have you ever seen the public as disgusted with congress as they are now? >> no. this is a new low, if you will. when you see this is a bipartisan indictment in chronic entrance yent. the polls are showing who do you blame more you have to ask that separately. how do you think the republicans are behaving in this how do you think the democrats are behaving. if you ask it separately you see everybody's numbers have fallen. the president risks being seen as partisan and objects stin nant which goes against his brand. republicans are entirely needing the 2014 house democrats are seen as completely -- >> as the guy who was going to

reunite them and i don't know if they will ever be invited. >> it is an active party. you have seen these polls they are a little come kecomical. they have more than hemorrhoids or cockroaches. there is no over the counter remedy for congress. >> that was what the tease was about that americans think more of this six legged cockroach than they do of congress. that's a real poll. the by the way, what do you have a higher opinion of, congress or your mother in law? 54 percent said their mother in law. what do you have a higher -- the congress or the dmv. 58 percent said dmv. crazy. i am going to ask you to listen to democratic senator joe mansion this morning. >> harry reid, do president obama, do they want to compromise or do they want

surrender? >> i don't know what they want. they haven't detailed that enough for us. leadership, we are in a crisis. we should not be here. there's no way it is acceptable for this government to be shut down. this is self-inflicted pain on most people. >> he's a democrat joe manchin saying he doesn't know what harry reid or the president wants at this point. what do you say to that? >> i say he will have to get the wax his ears. it's clear what they want. they want a clean vote and john bay more has t-- john boehner he vote. >> i am not going to let you go. >> the republicans are actually open to that. >> let me tell you something. the bottom line is when a senator criticizes a president and mary reed -- harry reid he a position of suffering as a result of that. what do you think of his saying

that? >> joe manchin is from time to time an honest man. that's what you have to say about it. what is the president's agenda? what is the president attempting to advance to raise the debt ceiling in his second term agenda to get us more deeply into debt? it is to destroy the republican brand. the president is at a new low with 37 percent approval rating for the president of the united states. the news media is avoiding that news. they are both drowning. the hope is on the part of the democrats and white house the republicans will drown first and they will declare differently. >> look, 4 to 5 americans are saying they are not personally affected by the shut down. that is besides the point venlt they hear details of human suffering. >> who suffers republicans or democrats in 2014. >> they say 90-days before the election. this will not be the issue going into next year's election. >> do you agree with that,

chris? >> yeah, i do. this is all just madness. by the time we get 390 news cycles away. >> you agree with that, leslie? >> i find it interesting that kelly's job is in the polls and the polls show that it is 24 hotly contested districts of the united states if the election were held today democrats would win. these are states where the republicans had it in the bag. >> i thought the next election the democrats are going to take it. we have 17 seats to get in house. >> i didn't think a few weeks ago. this is de bite baitable. >> i think it is time for maybe another kind of force to come in here. they are fed up with both sides. chris, leslie, kelly ann. thank you for being with comin react tomorrow morning? what will your 401 k's look like when it is all over.

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>> the government is shut down. the debt ceiling days away. life goes on across the nation. tomorrow morning we will get up to work and of course we will still pay our taxes. what does it all mean to you and your wallet? with me senior economic writer for the wall street journal steve moore. thank you for being with us tonight. >> hi, judge. good to be with you. >> what do you expect to see from wall straight tomorrow? >> i am very nervous, judge. every time we see bad news in terms of negotiations what you have on the show reflects they are not getting close in terms of recent agreement here. by the way friday remember judge was a great day for the market. it looked like they were getting close to a deal. now this weekend it looks like it is falling apart a little bit. i am nervous about how the market is going to do for the next couple days. as you know the key day is

coming up thursday or friday when we have to pass that debt ceiling. if we don't i don't think it is going to cause a default but it could cause a severe contraction in the stock market. >> i was listening to christine who is the managing director of the imf today. it was very interesting, steve, to hear her comment about the world leaders looking at our economy and saying, you know what? if you guys lose this one or if you do default, there is going to be an enormous ripple effect. the united states then loses it's kind of premiere status in the world. is she right about that? >> no, i think that is a little bit of an exaggeration. the united states is going to come out -- we are going to come out of this okay. it's a question of when these guys are going to start acting like adults and come to an agreement. the united states of america is the gold standard for currencies and we are still the hub of the

world economy. they have there's a problem around the world people rush to buy dollars and rush to invest in the united states. but does it put a little black eye on our economy? yeah, it does. it looks like we have barn numb and bailey circus in washington, d.c. right now. that's not good for our standing. these other countries can hardly talk. they have debt crease cease themselves. >> if a deal is reached by thursday what kind of financial reaction will we see then? >> i think the market is trooling for a deal. i think this would be my advice to your viewers, josh, who are in the market or in the bottom of the stock market. we may see a major fall but once that deal is made the economy

roars back to life. let's face it no matter where you stand the question we have to ask is can this great neighborings of ours continue to borrow a trillion dollars a year without that causing a train reck in and of itself. my answer is we can't go on. we have to get serious about reducing the debt and over spending problem in washington. >> how does all of this effect small businesses? >> they negative. they want to see the chaos in washington over. small businesses also want some resolution of the obama care bill, too. remember the front victims are the small businesses that would have to provide all of the healthcare costs. wouldn't it be wonderful if we got out of this crisis and provided some relief to the small businesses the 30 hour a week rule that says if you hire

somebody 30 hours a week all of these new obama care regulations come into effect as you also know you and i have talked about this, those employees with around 50 workers are reluctant to go over 50 workers because of the products. >> small businesses they are getting hit from both sides here. >> tomorrow let's assume there is no deal, is this a good time to buy stocks? >> well, i am not going to answer the question because the people would be i will add vised to answer my investment advice. i think we will get through this if you like americans companies they are well tooled to lead the world. we shouldn't looked sight of the fact that there is a lot right. >> you hit one right on the head the energy boom.

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so what happens now that donald miller? montgomery, thank you for being with us tonight. what happens? how does he get a license and has himself declared alive. >> i don't know how he can walk in and ask tore relief. it's the same judge who declared him dead a second time now. i don't know why they said i ruled based upon a presefrpgs. th -- presumption. that has been rebuted. therefore my ruling was avoid from the beginning from the outset i am just going to rescind that order. that would be the equitable thing to do. >> by the way, do we have any idea where he took off to for 22 years. >> he said he was in florida for a while in a few other places. he was able to support himself. i believe the impetus of this was to avoid child support. so he's a dead beat dad walking into the courtroom. we need a special jail for those

guys anyway. you divorce your wife not your kids. >> but now if he is in a position to be equitably to have -- say a judge decides i am going to let you come backnd be you, is there any prosecution for someone like that? >> from what i read today, he learned that he had been declared dead in 2005. that tells me he has been perpetrating a fraud since 2005. he's guilty of some type of social security fraud. >> also the wife should be able to sue him although he's a dead beat if she has to return social security benefits. what about child support for all of those years? is it too late for him to have to pay that? >> no. he should be made to pay back child support or pay what the government has paid her in his absence. he should make restitution for all of that unin and a hefty fine on top of that. the law shouldn't countenance to this type of behavior.

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