kurtz in the middle. monday i'm back with you, bill. bill: you need a flow chart. >> you have special friend from home. bill: see you at 1:00 on hq. have a great weekend. happening now starts right now. jenna: we have breaking news on the day's top stories and brand new stories you only see here. jon: well the government shutdown is finished but now some critics claim president obama is lashing out and making veiled claims the media are causing the divide in the american people. does he have a point? our media analysts are here to break it down. plus a daring heist of more than 25 grand worth of good old-fashioned kentucky bourbon. now police say this may be an inside job. we'll have the details. and social media websites, some of the share everything from our vacation photos to what we're having for dinner but can posting these pics make your

experience lose some of its luster? new research says yes. we'll explain, "happening now." jon: so no more taking pictures of your dinner, right? jenna: i will try to control myself. you know that is an issue for me, jon. jon: it is not, come on. good morning to you on this friday. we're a little giddy. i'm jon scott. >> hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. we'll get to the story about social media in just a little bit but today there is new concerns about obamacare. a new report from "the wall street journal" that says loser who are lucky enough to get through face even more hurdles once their information makes it to insurers. insurance companies are telling reporters information is jumbled by the time it reaches them and warned that the longer it takes to get this system in working order, the less likely it is that people will bother going through the process again to sign up that could spell big problems for the entire system. molly henneberg has details from washington for us now.

molly? >> reporter: jenna, jon, good morning. more than a dozen insurance companies are telling "the wall street journal" that they're seeing a lot of errors in the information they're receiving from the obamacare online exchanges and these companies are having to spend extra time and resources following up with potential customers to try to find out who is really trying to enroll. specifically, aetna, blue cross-blue shield of nebraska and priority health in michigan say they're getting applications with information missing. they're getting multiple applications from the same people. they're getting applications that list spouses as children. the ceo of aetna told the paper, quote, the longer this takes to resolve the harder it will be to get people to come back an sign up. it is not off to a great start. the white house says, they're working on it. >> the people who are responsible for making it work are hard at work fixing problems that need to be fixed and that is the focus of the president's attention and the attention of those at hhs and cms who are

working on this. and the president wants the work done so that the consumer experience is improved. >> reporter: health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius says the system is getting better every day. now speaking of secretary sebelius, the house energy and commerce committee has asked her to come answer questions on october 24th about the rollout of this website. but so far secretary hoshiyar zebari has not agreed to testify. republicans on the committee say, they're hoping she changes her mind. >> obviously we have the ability to subpoena a cabinet officer but i would hope that the secretary would come before the committee. chairman upton is a fair person and fine chairman. after the secretary has time for jon stewart. she should have time for those of us who serve in congress on these critical questions of this dismal failure so far in the rollout. >> reporter: hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars have gone into setting up the

website and more is being spent to fix it. the committee says it wants some accountability for that. jenna? jenna: molly, thank you. jon: for more on this let's talk to monica crowley, fox news contributor and author of "what the bleep just happened, happy warrior's guide to the great american come back." what happened to health care. >> what the bleep happened. so much has gotten lost in the last couple weeks in the debate over the partial government shutdown and debt ceiling debate but now it is back and not going anywhere. every day we have more headlines about this obamacare calamities. what is happening, jon, you had the federal government 3 1/2 years to get the website up and running and they couldn't even get that going. so can you imagine when they actually have control over your health care? how in the world will they run health care for the whole country when they can't get the website going efficiently. jon: some examples, blue cross & blue shield of nebraska, said it had to hire workers to contact,

it had to hire temporary workers to contact people who had signed up to resolve inaccuracies in their submission forms. one customer in ohio, medical mutual, successfully signed up for three separate plans. that is not supposed to happen. >> yes. and we've been getting warnings for a long time the way this is set up will lead this to being wide open for fraud and abuse and identity theft. reports that we're getting now from the insurers is, we're getting duplicate applications. people who claim to be one thing and they're something else. we don't even know how to process the stuff with all kind of false information. jon: one could understand there might be some of these so-called glitches if there were millions and millions of americans signing up. but there are not. >> they're not, i know. the numbers are very paltry. we're not even getting formal numbers from the administration and word is because so few are actually going to the website and seeing the whole process

through to actually enrolling in obamacare and humiliating and embarrassing for the administration that so few people want to do it. their target was seven million people, jon. they needed seven million people to enroll in obamacare to keep the whole thing going. of those they need ad huge percentage to be young and healthy types who will pay into the system to support the sicker folks. that is absolutely not happening. one of the designingers here, is that, you know, they're asking for all of this information before you can even enroll. you can't just go on the website and browse and look at different plans. you have to input all this information. young kids really have a problem with the privacy issues, the nsa and so on. if the young and healthy they need to support obamacare feel this is intrusive part of this thing, and that they don't want to input all of their personal data, they're not pogue to go to obamacare. which case the entire thing collapses. jon: we know that the irs has been tasked with enforcement of the income levels and ability,

whether or not you have the ability to get some kind of a waiver from the obamacare fees from the government. this is the same irs who is handing over private information to government and other officials who shouldn't be getting it. >> no, that is exactly right. you can make make argument, president obama, nancy pelosi, senator reid, senator tom harken, they have all been on the record saying that this obamacare is just a waystation on the way to single-payer. so a cynic might say, this is all designed to collapse. this is designed to go badly so they can make the argument to accelerate to single-payer which is essentially socialized medicine. >> do you think there is no going back? if this thing does collapse under its own weight, are the american people going to say with we had before? >> we hold out hope as conservatives we can ultimately repeal this. that will not happen for a while. you need a change in the political actors. certainly a change in the president of the united states. that will not happen for a while. look, once you start a government program you can never

take it away. that is what the left is counting on, they can say this is going badly but we have some people already enrolling already dependent on it. now we have to go to single-payer in order to try to make it work for at least them. which case you really do have a fundamental transformation of the health care system. jon: i haven't checked on numbers from alaska but 48 hours ago when i was on air, two people in alaska signed up for obamacare. alaska, maybe you have really steamrolled ahead with your enrollment but it wouldn't seem would be all that hard to undo, call the two folks in alaska, you know what, this thing isn't working. >> so far, jon. we know with government programs especially the one where the left is so invested in this, this is remaking of 1/6 of the economy and so important to them. this is the crown jewel of the welfare state. they will not let it go. they will make sure is works in some form. if it is not, getting us to single-payer. jon: the president says these are a couple of glitches.

so we'll see. >> we'll see. jon: monica crowley, good to talk to you. jenna. jenna: more health care throughout the show today. meantime we'll turn to syria where the regime is setting a date to begin peace talks next month in geneva as international inspectors visit chemical weapons sites around the war-torn country. so far only sites visited are under government control. the rest are in rebel territory. jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon with more. jennifer, where do things stand with the chemical weapons inspectors today? >> reporter: jenna, the inspectors arrived in damascus on october 1st. they have one month to make serious chemical weapons facilities inoperable. all syria chemical weapons are to be destroyed mid 2014. that is incredible timetable. right now in damascus there are 27 inspectors from the office of prohibition of chemical west, the group that won the nobel peace prize. in the last week alone they had car bombs outside their hotel and faced mortar fire at least

twice. they visited 11 of 20 declared sites. they have a tough road to avoid attacks like this summer with extraordinary, doing basic destruction of equipment, for instance that mixes chemicals for the weapons. they smashed empty shells used to deliver chemical weapons. using simple means, sledgehammers, chainsaws, bulldozers. jenna. jenna: what is next for them and for president assad? >> reporter: secretary kerry has set as a goal a peace conference in geneva that would get president assad and the rebel opposition together. they're trying to do that for some time. they're looking to end of november to set that peace conference. back when president assad spoke to fox news on september 17th, it is clear he thought by getting rid of his chemical weapons he would be able to stay in power. >> okay, but can you tell us now, do you have chemical weapons or don't you? >> when we joined, when we

joined the treaty last week, it means that we haven't said that,. >> as far as the american people, you will agree that, you do have a stockpile of chemical weapons? >> that is why we joined the international agreement in order to get rid of -- >> reporter: the hard part comes next, jenna. actually destroying or shipping out of the country a thousand tons of chemical agents. they will need a cease-fire to do to safely get to the seven locations currently controlled bit rebel opposition. so some of those chemical weapons sites are under opposition control. jenna: more on this story as we get it. jennifer, thank you. jon: well a big heist in kentucky to tell you about. someone making off with tens of thousands of dollars worth of rare bourbon. police have a suspect. we'll tell you about that. new threats to americans overseas. al qaeda calling for kidnappings

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jon: right now some crime headlines we're watching. a substitute teacher in pennsylvania passes out in front of a high school class with students watching. normally you wouldn't consider that a crime, except that police say they found four baggies of heroin in the 26-year-old man's pocket. he later confessed to using the drug. stay strong, that is the message from the mother of a teenager missing in new hampshire. it is now day 10 in the search for 15-year-old abigail hernandez. she was last seen leaving her high school. police say they never made it home. some of rarest bourbon produced in kentucky is missing. about 65 cases of 20-year-old bourbon were swiped from the buffalo trace distillery the hooch is worth about $25,000.

investigators believe this had to be an inside job. jenna: i wonder where they will find that or maybe not? we'll see. new concerns for safety and security of americans overseas. intelligence sources uncovering a possible plot by the islamist group al-shabab calling for kidnapping of u.s. citizens as retaliation for the capture of an al qaeda suspect, abu anas al-liby, who is currently in custody in new york city. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is joining us live from washington with more on these threats. so what are we learning today today, catherine? >> reporter: jenna the capture of al qaeda operative al-libi by u.s. special forces in libya has become a lightning rod for jihadists throughout north africa and middle east. after capture in tripoli street by delta forces there are new calls to kidnap american citizens in retaliation for al-libi's capture and significantly jihadists are

being urged to act immediately. one twitter message reads in part, quote, there is no need to consult with anyone to kidnap an american. after demonstrations protesting the al-libi raid previously unknown group calling itself the white benghazi rebels is posting threats on social media to sabotage gas pipelines and kidnap americans as well. a leading counselter terrorism analyst says the threats can not be dismissed. >> the calls are most likely credible because we know that from the senior al qaeda leadership on down, we've seen repeatedly this idea they will kidnap americans and hold them hostage in exchange for senior jihadists. >> reporter: analyst who is track social media in north africa and middle east say the chatter is significant and shows how jihadists are laughing on to the al-libi case because kidnap something routinely used to fund raise for these groups, jenna. jenna: with increase in chatter an increase in threats as well what is being done securitywise? >> reporter: fox news asked the state department whether it would revise a worldwide caution

of late september that urged americans in north africa and middle east to exercise caution and they asked if they would make the change based on a new threat? >> there is range of reports on reaction to but i haven't heard our team on any specific new concerns but i will check with them. >> reporter: the u.s. embassy in uganda, africa, is under a threat warning as well that the al qaeda affiliate in east africa, al-shabaab, may attempt a similar attack to the westgate mall in nairobi, kenya where gunmen attacked mall and held off kenyan security forces for four days. new threats against american citizens and embassy attack is renewed focus on western targets, jenna. jenna: a big story for us to continue to follow, catherine, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: a fascinating discovery in asia. researchers dig up an ancient skull. no, this is not your uncle but

they say it is in incredible condition. how scientists hope it will help us understand modern humans. new bombings reported in syria today. we'll look at the terror group that may be playing a big role in the raging civil war there along with concerns that the same group could be a growing threat to the u.s. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] eeny, meeny, miny, go. ♪ ♪ more adventures await in the new seven-passenger lexus gx. lease the 2014 gx 460 for $499 a month for 27 months. see your lexus dealer.

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jon: new information on an ancient discovery that researchers say may shed light on some of the most ancient humans. harris has details. >> reporter: the headline here, jon, there is a group of researchers in russia known as

the demansi team which discovered what they say is the first complete skull of any early human adult from our distant past. in the scientific community they are calling this a fossil superstar. in the state known as georgia is skull 5. that is one of five sets of remains. here are points that you should know. archeologists found this exactly. a mature male with a tiny brain, massive lower jaw and jutting brow that lived 1.8 million years ago, an early class of aprils they say would eventually give rise to modern humans. you have to love the way the scientists put this actually because clearly they're not eating lunch. they say generally you have to wait to for humans to begin burying dead to see this something well-preserved. technically it is exclusively preserved. the skull is drawing controversy. on one time the team that found

it said this strongly suggests that there was just one line of humans that evolved from one species of aprils. most textbooks say there were several different types of aprils that evolved into different species of humans even. critics point out that there are some stark differences from early human forms. the team says, however, that this proves it because they have got skulls from different points along the linage now that connect back to the one full one they just found. we'll have to see what they argue about in the scientist community. this is all of course based on whether you believe in evolution. jenna, jon? jon: harris faulkner, keep us up-to-date on skull 5. >> that's me. >> thanks. jenna: well, right now, growing concerns over the terror group hezbollah and their influence in syria's civil war on behalf of president assad but there is also growing concern about this group's presence on our

continent as well. here's a quick look at hezbollah's story. the group formed in lebanon back in 1982. their goals include destroying israel and eliminating western influence in the middle east. hezbollah is connected to nearly 400 terror attacks on record including the deadliest assault on u.s. marines since world war ii. that happened in 1983 in beirut that killed 241 u.s. military personnel. 14 years later the united states labeled hezbollah a terrorist organization officially. hezbollah is proxy group for iran which provides hezbollah with hundreds of millions of dollars of funding and weapons. joining me now is matthew levitt. he is the author of a new book, "hezbollah global footprint of lebanon's party of god." he is the director of counterterrorism and intelligence at washington institute for near east policy nice to have you back on the program to talk about this top pick. you say the sheer scope of hezbollah's influence is amazing. tell us a little more about

that. >> pleasure to be back on the show. hezbollah is a very prominent actor domestically in lebanon and there is a lot of literature on that but there is almost nothing about hezbollah activities around the world, in southeast asia, africa, north america, europe and middle east. we're not talking about huge networks of hundred of thousands of people. we're talking about small networks of operatives able to function especially well within the lebanese diaspora in different places including here in the united states. jenna: tell us about that as we drill down here. this is such a big topic but our viewers would be most interested in finding out what does the operation look like inside the united states? >> in the united states it is almost solely focused on fund-raising. some of it through regular jobs. most of it through criminal enterprises. some small scale things. everything from watered down baby formula, cigarette smuggling, credit card fraud. increasingly moving into narcotics as well. what the fbi is concerned about there have been times when they have seen hezbollah operatives

doing surveillance. they believe mostly for vetting new recruits but we're always concerned when we see people doing surveillance at a time when tensions in syria and lebanon, iran are so high. we're concerned about what iran's main proxy hezbollah would do if asked to do something whether here or elsewhere. jenna: may sound like a little bit of a basic question, matt but how good is this group? >> well some people refer to it as the a-team of terrorism. the reason they say that because the counter intelligence and operational security training it gets from iran gives it capabilities that a terrorist group that doesn't have the intimate connection to a massive state wouldn't have. and so in some cases they're very good. in the book i document some cases where they, are falling flat on their face making all kind of mistakes and then other cases where they are doing things in a very sophisticated, slow, methodical way that can make it very scary. jenna: how would you characterize what they're doing in syria now? >> what they're doing in syria is going all-in on behalf of the

assad regime. even though that is undermining their political position in lebanon underscoring the fact right now at least this strategic partnership they're in with iran is more important to them even than their political standing in lebanon. this includes fight on the ground with the battle of on the border town on the syrian-lebanese border. it involves activities elsewhere in the country in homs, the capitol. they are proving to be incredible fighting force as a militia on the ground. jenna: on our show, matt, we've done a lot of work about terror groups emerging in after from can. catherine herridge was just on our show just moments ago. she was talking a little bit about al-shabaab. i'm curious any sort of connection hezbollah has with any other outside terror groups? >> hezbollah's connections with variety of other terrorist groups mostly in service of iran. i was surprised there is big chapter on my book of hezbollah in after from can and i was surprised to find there is some historical question to shabaab. according to its information,

some shabaab militants went to lebanon for training under hezbollah tutelage and were stuck there during the july 2006 war that hezbollah instigated with israel. not clear if they participated in the fighting or just stood on the sidelines and watched but it is interesting some of these sunni, al qaeda affiliated shabaab terrorists would be accepted and would go to lebanon for training under shia hezbollah. jenna: interesting. we're looking at some of the networking. all the connections. you mentioned the fbi a few answers back being aware of some of the scams that hezbollah may be operating. how good of a job are we doing keeping an eye on hezbollah and also combating the group? >> you can imagine u.s. law enforcement and intelligence is extremely focused on this group right now. perhaps maybe not as much as in the years after 9/11 when we were focused on sunni extremism but in the past few years hezbollah has been on a tear carrying out and tating to carry out terrorist attacks abroad. you remember the attempted

attack in bulgaria. the ones thwarted in cyprus, africa. some are operatives recruited by hezbollah. here in the united states, local, state and federal officials are focused on hezbollah. i think they're doing an incredible job. jenna: that nice to hear. looking at a terror group with a lot of funding behind them. you have to always follow the money. matthew, great to see you as always. thank you very much. >> pleasure. that very much. jon: a couple of convicted murderers remain on the run after get this, they were allowed to walk out of prison with phony court documents. we'll update you on the manhunt. and president may have poured accelerant on a burning fire. what he said yesterday that has bloggers and pundits up in arms. if you think a prune is a prune, you haven't tried sunsweet, the amazing prune.

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jon: right now a look at what is still to come this hour. a massive manhunt underway in florida where two convicted murderers are still on the run. they escaped using forged court documents. a live report on that in just moments. plus, fast-acting good samaritans come to the rescue when a california brush firebreaks out. they're being hailed as heroes. full story and video in just a bit. social networking and a new lease on life. a new study says posting those pics may take away from the actual moment.

we'll explain. jenna: breaking news. those forged documents leading to the release of two convicted murderers in florida. authorities are launching a manhunt for the dangerous pair while prison officials and prosecutors across florida are scrambling to make sure this doesn't happen again. phil keating is live from our miami bureau with more on this very bizarre story, phil. what is the latest? >> reporter: well, latest is, jenna, that the florida department of law enforcement is also investigateing a third incident from this past spring where another inmate tried to get out of prison using the very same trick. that time it failed. but whether this was an inside job or outside job, clearly these two killers that are currently on the run had some very creative help. those faked court documents declaring that they had been wrongly sentenced, thus they should be set out of prison right away, which they absolutely were. both murderers are considered armed and dangerous with nothing to lose. so far we know of not one

sighting of these men anywhere in florida or the country for that matter. charles walker walked free october 8th. he was serveing a life sentence for the 1999 murder of cedric slater. joseph jenkins walked free, september 2th. he was serving life for the '98 murder of roscoe pe pugh, a father of six. >> people are very creative. people spend time trying to break out of jail and there are various ways to break out of jail, and guess what? this was one enterprising way to what? break out of jail. >> reporter: that was judge belvin perry. he probably looks very familiar to you as he was the judge in high-profile casey anthony murder trial two years ago and his signature, which is on these bogus court documents is all over the web, helping to make it that much easier for whomever helped these murderers get out of prison early. jenna? jenna: so fascinating and disturbing at same time, phil. interesting they got out of

prison on different days. hatched the plan together or were they trying to escape together or no? >> reporter: well they both do hail from the same county, orange county, outside of orlando. they were both serving murder sentences at the same florida panhandle prison. seems very likely they had hatched this plan together. one of the widows of one of the victims of these murderers, josephine jenkins, spoke to our orlando affiliate yesterday. >> scary. with him back on the streets it is very scary because if he don't come after my family, it is possible he will kill someone else. if he had mentality to do it once he will do it again. >> reporter: florida's department of corrections now has monster task of pouring over thousands and thousands of documents, all of them pertaining to releases from prison just to make sure nobody else who is supposed to be serving time behind bars ends up walking the door a free man as

happened over last three weeks, jenna. jenna: wow what a story, phil, thank you. >> reporter: yeah. jon: well, did you hear the president after the government reopened yesterday? he was saying we need to find common ground. that during his remarks on the shutdown and debt ceiling deal but some of his comments targeted certain groups, sparking a firestorm. here is exactly what he had to say. >> now that the government has reopened and this threat to our economy is removed, all of us need to stop focusing on the lobbyists and the bloggers around talking head on radio and professional activist who is profit from conflict and focus on what the majority of americans sent us here to do. jon: so what do you think about that? let's talk about it with judy miller, pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter and author. kirsten powers is columnist for "the daily beast." both are fox news contributors. judy, he was clearly reading that off the teleprompter. this wasn't something he ad-libbed. he clearly wanted to make that point. who are these bloggers around pundits he is so upset with?

>> right. this is kind of vintage obama and it is getting to be a little mystifying because on the shutdown the president won big-time. look at drop in republican numbers. he should have been proclaiming victory. he should have been singing kumbayah moment, wrapping his arms around rush limbaugh and saying come on over for a beer but instead he singles people out who disagree with him. he says, he suggests yet again, bloggers are not journalists. fox news is not a news network. he didn't say this time. people who disagree with him are not somehow patriotic americans who want what is best for the country. i don't know why he does that. it does not work to his advantage. jon: kirsten, is this a case of the president being petty in victory? >> yeah. i mean, look, but it is more than that because this is something that we've talked about a lot that he does where he sort of attacks journalism and bloggers are journalists.

they are a form of journalism. for him to pretend that the problems are somehow caused by the fact that we have differing views and people, you know, blogging, reporting about different ideas, somehow caused this problem is actually incorrect. that is not, you know, bloggers are in no way caused the government to shut down. so i don't know why he chooses to do this except for the fact he really does believe that journalists are a problem. jon: well, it used to be in his first term that most of his blame, i guess was cast on the bush administration and now that he is in his second term maybe he has to turn to bloggers around media? but that brings up another question and that is this report out of the committee to protect journalists which suggests that the obama administration, here's a quote from the report where at author of the report. the obama administration's aggressive war on leaks and its determined efforts to control

information that the news media needs to hold government accountable for its actions are without equal since the nixon administration. that from a guy who actually edited "the washington post" at the time of the nixon administration, leonard dow nie, jr. what do you make of that, kirsten? >> this is a real problem with the obama administration. their hostility toward the idea of dissent. to the idea of a free press, the things that they have done that we've talked at length about, including targeting journalists at ap. and here at fox news. and i really think that this president has a real problem with people criticizing him and expressing dissent. rather than understanding that part of a free media means that you're going to have to take the good with the bad. you get all the laudatory press, didn't hear them complaining when everyone was hailing him as the next savior, but when they actually are doing critical reporting on you, then you attack them. jon: yeah, it seems to be an

administration that is particular thin-skinned, judy. by and large he has gotten pretty favorable press coverage but these two comments stood out in this report. ann compton of abc news said he is the least transparent of the seven presidents i have covered in terms of how he does his daily business, this from the administration that promised it would be the most transparent in history. and then from david sanger of "the new york times," your former paper, judy, sanger says this is the most, controlled freak administration i have ever covered. what do you think? >> it is really true. anyone who works in national security knows this. if you're not willing to parrot the narrative, the storyline, you're not going to get called back for a backgrounder. you're not going to get called into the white house for that talk with the head of national security or national intelligence. they play hard ball when it comes to disseminating information. they want it out their way. you know, jon, this has policy

implications. this administration promised to support a media shield law to prevent journalists from going to jail to protect our sources. bloggers are covered by that law. if he starts to separate them out there is legitimate question about whether or not he will want them covered and provide them the protection we all need against his administration. jon: well, and you know about journalistic freedom and journalistic protection better than just about any of us. kirsten, i don't know, what is the net effect by, is he trying to control, is the administration trying to control the coverage and make itself, make themselves look better in the process? is that what this is all about or is this a thin-skinned president? >> he is thin-skinned. i think even people who support him david axelrod pointed that out to him when he was thinking of running for president. that is one of the liabilities he is very thin-skinned. all white houses want to control the media to a certain extent and get best coverage they can. but there are lines that people

typically don't cross. mike mccurry was quoted quoted a "politico" story last year. i never would have thought to do the things they do. and you know, that is a lot of it. they are just not really doing their duty, remember they work for us. they work for the american people. they're actually supposed to respond to inquiries. and they're treating as they get to say only the good things and hold back the bad things. jon: very good point. we'll come back to this topic another time i'm sure. judy miller, kirsten powers, thank you both. >> thank you. jon: jenna. jenna: two brave men putting themselves in harm's way. two good samaritans lept to action to fight dangerous flames of a california wildfire. we'll talk about that next. an emergency call spends police in ohio rushing to a robbery scene. then tragedy strikes. the details just ahead. the day we rescued riley was a truly amazing day.

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jon: new information on a fatal car crash overnight near columbus, ohio, that left six people dead. a police officer was responding to a robbery report when his cruiser collided with the other car, leaving the officer injured. mike tobin has latest on the investigation live from our midwest bureau. so what happened, mike? >> reporter: john, the robbery call was at a mcdonald's not far from the ohio state capitol. investigators say at the time of the crash the police officer had his lights and siren going. what we don't know now how fast the police officer was going or if he had the green light at that intersection where the wreck happened. what you can see from the video the front end of the police cruiser is damaged and the side of that passenger car is absolutely caved in. that tells you the car wasp in the intersection and was broadsided by the police cruiser. the car, the ear passenger car was overstuffed, six people where there are spaces for only five. all six people in the parenting car were killed. sadly that includes a

two-year-old little girl and teenage girl. investigators say that no one in the passenger car was wearing a see belt at the time, and there was no child seat for the two-year-old girl. the police officer who was involved in the wreck was a five-year veteran of the force. he is the only survivor of this wreck. he is hospitalized right now with head injuries, jon. jon: when he comes to, he will feel awful about all of this. mike tobin. thank you. jenna: two people hailed as heros jumping into harm's way to help out, help put out a brush fire you psion the screen. we'll tell you where and what happened, all in this. also living in the digital age, really snapping pictures of anything that catches our eye. a viewer sent that to me by the way, jon. are we taking flavor out of life with all the pictures we're taking? that is the question. a study says, yes.

jenna: seeing too many photos of your favorite food may actually make you enjoy it less. that is according to a new study from brigham young university and here's the way one of the study's authors explains why that happens. quote, in a way you become tired of that taste without even eating the food. it is sensory boredom. you have kind of moved on. this is a marketing study to explore how we're affected by advertising but it made me wonder does this apply to other items besides food? with all of us taking more photos ever before with phones and inundated with images from family, friends and strangers are we setting ourself up to be less satisfied with life? brian russell a clinical psychologist joins us willing to take this on. >> i need to instagram this

before we get started. now, this is the problem. this is 2-d, as cute as it is. what is happening now is this 3-d. when we focus on the 2-d we sort of lose a dimension of depth. jenna: lit me start with a food study. only between 200 and 300 people but they found people were actually less satisfied with salty food if they saw salty food. do you buy that? >> well, i think i buy the overall concept which is that when you objectivefy an experience, when you take something intrinsic and make it intoing extrinsic it can lose value to. >> so if you have a problem with your diet and you're trying to lose weight and say chocolate is your vice, if you look repeatedly at pictures of chocolate, will that make you enjoy chocolate less and hence make you lose weight? >> it is possible. i think that is a bit of a stretch. what i say to people, like the

shopping thing you and i discussed recently. i don't think you have to cut instagram out all together. maybe just crop it a little bit. see what i did there? jenna: i like it. >> if you're present in the moment and more concerned about having your priorities in focus, than your pictures, then you will probably actually get more joy even out of the pictures that you do take, when you look back on them, because the memories that they bring back up will be more meaningful. jenna: we were trying to apply to different scenarios on "happening now." jon went down to washington, d.c. yesterday. we posted a bunch of pictures of him having a good time. when i go down to d.c. will i have less of a good time because i saw jon having such a good time. we had our viewers, doc, send photos of their pets. that is what they wanted to share with us. they have great photos. will they enjoy pets less because they're constantly instagramming them? >> i think it is all about moderation. it is okay to do. you just don't want to do.

our friend bill o'reilly is big instagrammer. he commented on picture. you two look much younger than me. thanks, bill. jenna: as a professional, a clinical psychologist. where is it in your life? >> i have a facebook fan page. i have a twitter page and i use those things to communicate with the people who are interested in my work and the people who watch fatal vows but i don't overdo. i'm not telling you every little thing i'm doing. every place i am all day long. i wouldn't be interested in that and i'm me. i can't imagine anybody else is interested in that. jenna: we're interested in having you on the show. nice to have you, dr. russell, as always. thanks for playing with us. kind of an interesting question. so we appreciate the time. thank you so much. >> thanks. have a great weekend. jon: i agree it is possible to overdose on social media i think. jenna: so says people appearing on television every day. sort of weird. right? we have never met a camera we

don't like, jon? come on. no comment. jon: there are new details revealed in court during the trial of a doctor charged with murdering his wife. prosecutors are hauling a bathtub into the courtroom. we'll tell you why.

jenna: some new developments on our top stories and breaking news this hour. jon: horrifying surveillance video just released from terrorists -- where terrorists killed 67 people. and a possible breakthrough on identifying killers lead investigators to norway. also, she was a beauty queen, her husband a successful physician. now she's dead, and he is accused of killing her with a cocktail of prescription drugs. the trial underway right now. and we've heard that red amendment might not be so good for you, but one study says it could be much worse for men than women. that's just not fair, jenna. we'll tell you why. it's all "happening now." jon: we begin with this fox news

alert, a new lead in the investigation into the nairobi mall massacre leads police all the way to scanned neva. -- scandinavia. jenna: a training twist to the -- strange twist to this story. new evidence about a possible suspect, trying to figure out if he's one of the gunmen released in this video of the terror attack. the horrifying surveillance footage shows the chaos and carnage as it all unfolds. terrified shoppers running for their lives as four men armed with assault rifles and hand grenades calmly stroll through the complex casually gunning down anyone caught in their path. our senior foreign affairs correspondent greg talcott is live in london with more. what do these new videos tell us about the attack? >> reporter: yeah, jenna, it is our first long and close look at the attackers and the attack on that kenya shopping mall last month, and it is brutal.

again, these are closed circuit surveillance cameras taking this video. they show shoppers at first calm, relaxed, and then the shots ring out. then they're running in panic and terror, at some points crawling on the ground, hiding behind stalls. the militants turn this mall into a shooting gallery bursting off shots from their ak-47s sometimes precisely trying to finish off their victims on the ground. kenyan authorities had claimed there could be as many as 15 attackers involved. the videos that we're examining today seem to indicate there could be as few as four or six militants responsible for the carnage. still, they are seen, as you indicated, in this video to have time to make calls and other opportunities to relax from their battle. but again, the siege was ended with the mall collapse and a fire, and today authorities say they have pulled out of the ruins perhaps remains of two of those attackers and their weapons. forensic teams, including those

from the u.s., are now examining this, jenna. jenna: wow. of there's only, indeed, four to six people that caused this, that really changes the way this story has been told, greg. what about the norway connection? what is that all about? >> reporter: now, jenna, it had been suspected there was an international link to these attacks, and now we're getting close to confirming that very fact. one of those people seen in the video, specifically a guy in a dark jacket seen in a supermarket sequence, now -- according to reports -- could be a man by the name of hassan abdi and then in recent years returned to somalia. it is thought he came back there to fight with the al-qaeda-linked islamist group al-shabaab in norway and kenya. they're looking harder at this possible lead. another al-shabaab figure was the apparent target of that u.s. navy seal raid earlier this month in somalia. there are americans involved,

british involved in this al-shabaab group, a group that claimed responsibility for the kenya mall attack, and it's also looking to hit more western targets. the brutal attack on that shopping mall a good example of the kind of problems they could cause, why western officials are looking harder at this group and really, jenna, it takes this video to bring home some of the horrors inflicted on these civilians, again, looking for a saturday out in the mall and finding horror right in their face. back to you. jenna: powerful new developments there, greg. thank you. jon: there are new revelations in the investigation into the benghazi terror attack that killed four americans including our ambassador, chris stevens. a house panel focusing on the positioning of military assets in the region is now zeroing in on a certain white house document. our chief washington correspondent james rosen has more on this, he's live in d.c. for us now. james? >> reporter: jon, good afternoon. the house armed services subcommittee on oversight and investigations is preparing a

final report on benghazi expected before february. among the subcommittee's findings is that u.s. forces were postured so poorly on the night of september 11th, 2012, as to have made any military intervention in benghazi impossible. investigators want to know why that was given the known volatility of the mideast and of the 9/11 anniversary period. >> no single act of heroism could have changed the outcome on that day because we just weren't prepared. so our men and women in uniform, they did everything that they could, in my opinion, with what they had. but the problem was with what they didn't have to get the job done. >> reporter: roby and her staff are now focused on a white house press release issued september 10th, one day before the benghazi attacks, which referred to meetings the commander in chief and his top national security aide held that day on the safety of u.s. personnel and, quote-unquote,

security posture. general carter hamm told the panel he wasn't included in those sessions, and sources say general martin dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said those pre-9/11 security meetings were fairly routine. jay carney suggested the armed services committee is acting out of, quote, partisan motives, and he criticized fox news for posing such questions. >> i'm not sure i understand the question focused on a press release which i think i probably also discussed here as, i think, my predecessors of both administrations have done which is that because of the nature of the anniversary, there are preparations made many anticipation of potential -- in anticipation of potential threats. >> reporter: armed services subcommittee investigators now want to ask leon panetta some questions. panetta's office did not respond to our requests for comment this week.

jon? jon: james rosen in washington, thank you. jenna: well, back to some politics now. with less than three weeks until election day, the candidates in one of this year's most-watched contest are pulling out all the stops. terry mcauliffe against ken cucinelli, a win for either side won't come cheap, and democrats are bringing in the big guns as hillary clinton hits the campaign trail. our chief political correspondent, carl cameron, is live in washington with more on this story. >> reporter: jenna, not cheap at all. the candidates and outside super pacs are pumping millions of dollars into this race, basically to trash one another on character issues. mcauliffe is the former national democratic party chairman and top clinton era fundraiser. he leads by about seven to eight politics in the real clear politics average of the most recent polls. mcauliffe has outspent republican ken cucinelli by several million dollars, and 71%

of mcauliffe's ads, more than 25,000 of them, have been negative attacks on cucinelli particularly when it comes to women's health. watch. >> i'm very troubled by ken cucinelli. >> he tried to change virginia's divorce laws -- >> to prevent women from getting out of a bad marriage. >> ken cucinelli denies climate change exists -- >> and he used taxpayer dollars to investigate a uva professor doing research. >> reporter: mcauliffe has hillary clinton coming in to campaign for him in virginia tomorrow. the two have lots of history, and some of it has been tainted by campaign finance controversy and scandal through the clinton years. this will be her first appearance at a campaign event since leaving the secretary of state's office, and how's this for inside baseball? mcauliffe's campaign manager is considered a top candidate to run the hillary clinton presidential campaign in 2016, assuming that mcauliffe wins the virginia governor's race and clinton actually runs for president. jenna: interesting.

poll the bouncing ball on that. what about cucinelli's ads? >> reporter: well, he's been battling really hardt, gotten help from conservatives across the country. because the race is mostly about character and cucinelli's running against mcauliffe who's had character questions for decades -- and there are some investigations that are ongoing right now that deal with him -- cucinelli is making sure that voters get all the glorious details about scandals that are currently under investigation related to this democratic nominee. watch. >> corrupt insider terry mcauliffe made millions while workers lost jobs and pensions. now a shocking new discovery, court documents reveal terry mcauliffe invested in an insurance scam that preyed on dying people. >> reporter: mcauliffe probably, needless to say, says cucinelli is basically muckraking with false attacks. there's an investigation that

involves a company with hillary clinton's brother tony rodham. we have 18 days until the dominion gets a new governor, and it's going to be investigate rhetoric every moment of it. jenna: a colorful race to watch for sure, carl. thank you very much for that. jon: well, congressional budget leaders are vowing they will iron out their differences. this time they will come up with a real budget compromise. should we hold out hope that this will still be the story when the clock winds down yet again? they haven't done so well so far. and what this u.s. air marshal is accused of doing to some passengers 30,000 feet in the sky. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is brad.

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battle is moving to a new front now. lawmakers from both parties and both chambers are trying to find common ground on a long-term plan. leaders from both the house and the senate budget committees getting together over bagels and coffee yesterday. we presume there was federal tax money available to pay more those bagels. republicans are pushing for entitlement reform, democrats are asking for tax increases on the wealthy, but there does not appear to be much optimism surfacing so far about a real compromise. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell telling the washington post, quote: if you're trying to look ahead to january and february, the issues will be the same, and the views will be the same, and it will be difficult to get an outcome. all of this as our national debt ticks ever higher, nearly $17 trillion right at this moment. let's talk about it with bob cusack, the managing editor of "the hill." after all of this shutdown drama and the brinksmanship over the debt ceiling, is anything going

to change these two sides in their negotiating positions, bob? >> jon, it's hard to have optimism. this was such an ugly fight. there are areas where they could agree on. the president has been willing to trade possibly social security changes for some tax increases. but republicans have been insistent on that. the one thing i don't think the going to be part of this conversation at least from a leadership level on the republican side is obamacare. we talked to senator mitch mcconnell yesterday, and he said obamacare is not going to be causing the government to shut down. they're going to be moving on to spending reforms. ted cruz and others will be talking about obamacare, but i think you're looking at medicare, medicaid, sequestration, all these things are going to be on the table. but they have been unable to get a bipartisan so-called grand bargain for years, so it's hard to see how they're going to get it in just a few months. jon: well, the president appointed the bipartisan

simpson-bowles commission and then, basically, he ignored the findings, then you had the supercommittee that was supposed to get all of this done, they couldn't agree, and we wound up with the sequester. so what's to suggest that there is, you know, any reason for hope going into january and february? >> well, i mean, i definitely think that there are some members who learned some lessons from this ugly fight, and republicans have to be concerned about their poll numbers going into an election year. but still you mentioned simpson-bowles that president obama rejected, also paul ryan as the lead negotiator on these talks also rejected bowles-hitchson. he -- hitchson. he also voted against the deal that raised the debt limit. patty murray was co-chair of the supercommittee, that went nowhere. so it's hard to have any optimism. but i do think one way or the other there's not going to be a government shutdown in january, maybe they kick the can down the road, it's going to be tough because of election year politics. but at some point both democrats

and republicans agree that they're going to have to come up with some framework to preserve medicare and social security, because both programs are headed for bankruptcy, especially medicare. but democrats say that republicans have to give something up on sequestration, and they have to give up something on tax revenue. jon: right. the president has been using those two words, balanced approach, which in his lexicon usually means tax increases, right? >> yeah. everybody in washington if they're reasonable and have a balanced approach, both sides use that rhetoric, and obama is really pressing the republicans to break on that. i don't think he's going to get any reception as far as taxes. maybe on sequestration they could change some things, but there are going to be -- if they reach a deal, there are going to be critics on the left and the right. obama says he's willing to take on the liberal faction. we'll see about that, but i do think that the 2014 election is going to really get in the way of any possible big deal. maybe have a small deal but a

big deal, i don't think so. jon: but the real drivers of the national debt situation are things like social security and medicare and medicaid, right? >> yeah, that's right. and the discretionary spending, the appropriations which has actually been pared back over recent years, that has taken a hit, but the entitlement reform and both democrats and republican budget experts agree that that is the thing that policymakers are going to have to grapple with because with our aging population, there has to be changes one way or the other. maybe it's not next year, but within the next five years, something must happen or we could be in a very difficult fiscal situation, a lot worse than we are now. jon: yeah. it's a train wreck that's been coming for a long time, and somebody's got to do something about it. bob cusack from "the hill," thank you. jenna: an alarming new warning about dangers of air pollution. find out what disease is being added to the list of possible risks that dirty air could expose you to. also a husband is on trial for his life accused of murdering his beauty queen wife. a closer look at the case and

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jenna: right now a doctor in utah is on trial for murdering his pewty queen wife, in fact, this is a live trial that you're seeing on your screen just now. that's the judge, of course, as they're getting under way today. there are widely conflicting explanations as to exactly how the woman in question died. making this anything but an open and shut case. harris faulkner's arrive from our new york city newsroom just

to kind of catch us up on what is happening in this trial, harris. >> reporter: yeah, a lot has happened. they had jury selection earlier, now they're really into it. this is a case of he said and they said. prosecutors are now expected to call some 60 witnesses to the stand in the murder trial of dr. martin mcneal. he says his 50-year-old wife, who had heart disease, died of natural causes, and that's what his defense attorneys are arguing in court. here is the 911 call, and listen carefully. the accused husband made this call the day michelle mcneal -- a mom of eight kids -- was found slumped over a bathtub in the family home.

>> reporter: okay. did you catch that? she'd had surgery, he said a facelift. mcneal's account of what happened has holes. they're arguing he killed his wife to continue an affair he was having. his own children don't believe his side of the story, they're among the witnesses scheduled to testify against him at the trial. the prosecution says the doctor took advantage of his wife's medical condition and the pills she had postsurgery. remember the surgery he just mentioned. the medical examiner reportedly found a cocktail of drugs in her system including valium, percocet, ambien, among others, and then there are witness accounts of some bizarre behavior they said he had after his wife's death. for example, at his wife's funeral, he told mourners he was having to adjust to, quote,

being a bachelor again. and he exchanged at least 20 text messages reportedly with a woman named gypsy willis. she was also at the service. that's a picture of her there. within weeks willis moved into the family home to act as the children's nanny. months later, she married the doctor. it took some four years before prosecutors pressed charges against him. if found guilty, mcneal faces life in prison. jenna: i'm glad you ended there, harris, because that's where i want to begin, because it took so long to get this case to trial. we're going to talk more about this with our legal panel, former federal prosecutor fred tease is with us and -- fred tecce is with us, and doug burns will be long in just a moment. fred, it did take about five years before this man was charged with anything. how does that factor in? >> well, giving the overwhelming ed, it's not going to factor at all. look, this is a tragic case. a woman's dead, eight children lost their mother. but they teach you in law school about the presumptionover

innocence? well, in this case this guy walks into court with what i call the presumption of guilt. any guy who's dating a woman named gypsy while his wife ends up in the bathtub dead having drowned is guilty. starts from ground zero and has to go upwards -- jenna: now, wait a minute, fred, hold on a second. besides gypsy, who we're seeing on the screen here, there were three medical examiners that took a look at the death, two with who worked for the state of utah and another that's a paid expert by the defense. we'll keep that in mind, but none of them found any sort of level in her system that would suggest that she was drugged and died. >> and you just walked right into the teeth of the theory of my case, jenna. i'm the prosecution, the guy's admitted to that he was a doctor, and he knew how to kill her and not leave any traces. of course that's what it's going to show. that's why he did it that way. jenna: all right, hold on. doug is with us now. doug, the other two witnesses that were called in this case were the doctors that saw this

woman before surgery -- >> yes. jenna: -- evaluated her and then the surgeon. and the surgeon is the one that admitted, yeah, i gave her all of these drugs. i don't normally do it, but i'm the one that wrote the prescription, not the husband. >> no. i think, you know, notwithstanding fred's ire, the reality is that, a, when nobody had any dog in this hunt, the death was ruled a natural death. that's number one. b, your point, jenna, which is how are you going to prove, fred, beyond a reasonable doubt that she didn't ingest them instead of the physician giving them to her, the husband? jenna: fred? >> guys, the doctor testified that the husband asked for increased dosages. i'm sorry, i think the evidence against the guy is overwhelming. he's admitted to people that he killed her. he was texting this woman -- jenna: who did he admit to? >> 20 times from her funeral. jenna: who did he admit that he killed his wife? >> the inmates that he was in prison with which was doing federal time which won't come out in the government's case, but he was doing federal time for, i think, social security --

doug looked into it, social security fraud or something like that. it's a bad guy. jenna: doug, what about that? does it come into the case at all? does it come into the case? how does that work? >> the fact that he was convicted of social security fraud will not, in my opinion, come into the direct case. if he elects to testify -- which which he will not, trust me -- >> you want to bet? you want to bet? i'll bet you anything the guy takes the witness stand. >> i'm taking that bet, and we'll make good later. here's the other point, the man apparently made admissions to jailhouse snitches, i wouldn't even cross-examine him on that. by the way, the defendant has a law degree, so you really think it's likely he would make those admissions -- >> yeah, i would be real careful saying this guy was also a lawyer. [laughter] that could come back and bite you. [laughter] jenna: very interesting case, and again, the issue of beyond a that is going to be the issue. we'll see you guys again on this topic and also take your bets,

because we like that. we appreciate that. thank you both. >> you can supersize your extra value meal if i lose. jenna: bye, guys. >> all right. jon: and now to this fox news alert and the former speaker of the house, tom foley, has died. that's according to statements released by both house speaker john boehner and house minority leader nancy pelosi. she -- i'm sorry, he was the 57th speaker of the house of representatives. he served from 1989 to 1995 from washington state where he was elected from the fifth congressional district for 30 years as a democratic member from 1965 to '95. tom foley also served as united states ambassador to japan from 1997 to 2001, appointed by president bill clinton. tom foley, the speaker of the house, the former speaker of the house, has passed away. all right, the hernandez murder case back in court today. we're going to tell you who is now set to be formally charged

in connection with the case against the former nfl star. also freaky friday's not uncommon for the dow, what will we see today after the roller coaster that was the shutdown and the debt limit battle? it's all about your bottom line. lauren simonetti is here to catch us up. hey, lauren. ♪ ♪

jenna: well, right now a look at what's happening on wall street. not a whole lot today. maybe investors are just exhausted, jon? maybe like the rest of us? jon: i am. jenna: right? it's been kind of a tough week. you had the shutdown, the uncertainty over the debt ceiling. the government is open for business, and we're expected to do a little catch up. the last reading that we got on unemployment was back at the beginning of september, and the unemployment reading was for 7.3%. so we're expecting to get a new report next week, and we have a whole bunch of business news to get to. lauren simonetti from the fox business network is with us. >> happy friday. if you look at the dow which is down fractionally, you can say the market's doing a whole lot of nothing, but when you look at the s&p 500, that's a huge winner. the widely-owned index pushing further into record territory with many of its members -- google, facebook, netflix, intuit -- also at all-time highs

today. in fact, google shares are surging past $1,000 for the first time ever. that's a big deal. there are only four stocks on a major exchange to boast a stock price of $1,000, and all this is adding to the rally we have seen this year through the government shutdown and through the debt ceiling debate. so look at these gains. the broader market, up 21.5% in 2013, the nasdaq's up a greater 28%, and many traders and analysts believe the coast is clear for this rally to last until the end of the year. now, fed watchers largely agree the central bank won't back off stimulus until next year, so the taper is far out, and the economy does have time to heal without that immediate threat of higher interest rates cutting into growth. standard & poor's puts the cost of that 16-day shutdown at $24 billion. some of that money is going to be poured back into the economy as furloughed workers receive back pay, but we may never compensate for the hit that the contractors and the small businesses and the tourism

industry took. and as things get back online, so do the key economic reports. tuesday we'll get the september jobs report, that's the biggest piece on tap. the october data is being compiled right now. we'll get that a week late, november 8th. so two jobs reports coming close together, and we'll have a better read on the economy. jenna: sort of weird, right? inthe the stead of the -- instead of the first friday of the month. >> i know. tuesday's going to feel like friday next week. jenna: lauren, thank you. >> have a good weekend. jon: well, we are two days removed from the shutdown, and fox news' howard kurtz is calling out the mainstream media for its coverage saying news outlets have a tendency to overplay a story's impact in the moment. bloger nate silver echoes the thought writing, quote: the folks you see on tv are much too sure of themselves. remember syria, the fiscal cliff, benghazi, the irs scandal, the collapse of immigration reform? all of these were hyped as game-changing political moments

by the news media. just as so many stories were during the election last year. in each case, he writes, the public's interest quickly waned once the news cycle turned over to another story. most political stories have a fairly short half-life and won't turn out to be as consequential as they seem at the time. let's talk about it with howard kurtz, the host of "media buzz." so was this all much ado about nothing, howard? >> i wouldn't say that, jon. i'm going to try not to be too sure of myself. jon j yeah, please. >> there is no question even most conservative commentators, many of whom were very critical of the gop strategy during the shutdown, even they agree that in this short term the republican party brand took a big hit. that's reflected in the polls. of course, president obama and the democrats also coming down in the polls, just by not as much. the point i was trying to make, and nate silver helped me make the point as well, is that, you know, we all hype ventilate

about this -- hyper ventilate about these types of things. six months from now when the midterms roll around, i still think the shutdown will be remembered more than, say, the irs scandal, but i don't think it's going to have quite the impact that it might seem in some of the more breathless coverage. jon: there's also a tendency to anoint winners and losers. bob schieffer came out and said the president won this thing. did he? >> well, again, in the short term and if you look at it purely as a public relations and political battle, yes, president obama won because he got most of what he asked for, and he didn't have to give up very much in terms of the assault on obamacare. but only some journalists have asked the next question, jon, what did he win? well, he didn't win much except getting the government reopened and getting a 90-day or 120-day extension of the next debt ceiling fight. he didn't make any progress on the budget. the two parties are still bitterly divided, and we have to go through this all again just a

few months from now. so, you know, if many washington there tends to be this sort of beltway mentality, well, so and so won the news cycle, they won the morning, and in that sense president obama was the winner here. but this may look differently in three months if, again, we're not making any progress whatsoever on the question of getting spending down, getting the deficit down and ending the dysfunction that i think has so many people disbusted with washington and maybe disgusted with us in the media as well. jon: yeah. there is the throw the bums out, all of them, contingent out there. howard kurtz, thank you. you can catch howard sundays at 13 a.m. eastern -- 11 a.m. eastern right here on fox news channel. jenna: well, they're supposed to protect us, but bun federal air -- one federal air marshal finds himself on the other side of the law. wait until you hear what he's accused of doing. and a proposed copper mine could create more than 3,000 jobs, but a native american

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>> good day, everybody, on a frida, i'm bill hemmer. allison's out, so today we have a mystery co-anchor to be revealed in 17 minutes. do not miss it. see you at the top of the hour. ♪ ♪ jon: it's not going to be clint eastwood, is it? [laughter] jenna: that's a good question. jon: b a federal air marshal is under arrest and could lose his job for alleged lewd baer on a southwest airlines flight. a witness says he used hid cell phone camera to take pictures of female passengers in ways they would not like. harris faulkner live from our new york newsroom. harris? >> reporter: jon, that air marshal is accused of taking the cell phone pics underneath women's skirts as they were getting on a flight at nashville

international airport. nashville police say adam bart was on duty, southwest airlines flight 3132 yesterday. somebody caught him in the act. they say when a witness noticed bart was taking the pictures, he grabbed his cell phone away from him. police say the witness notified a flight attendant. local reports the transportation security administration is involved. they say he will be removed from duty, and the tsa is assisting with an information. the agency also said it's in the process of suspending or terminating his employment. jon? jon: wow. and this is a guy who is, you know, licensed to carry a gun on these flights, for instance. >> reporter: yeah. they should take his license away, i guess, for the camera part. jon: harris faulkner, thank you. jenna: well, there's a big battle brewing over a copper mine in arizona. an apache tribe opposes it contending it will disturb sacred land, but there's a huge economic potential, and one study estimates the mine would

create more than 3700 jobs statewide. will carr has a fair and balanced look at this, he's streaming live from superior, arizona. will? >> reporter: hi, jenna. this is part of arizona's copper corridor, and what happens here really impacts the state and the country. but the people that live in this town, they really don't think that broadly. that's because they're desperate for jobs. in superior, arizona, homes are boarded up, businesses sit empty, the unemployment rate almost 20%. that's why many residents hope resolution copper, a mine that could be the largest in the country, opens soon. you hear resolution copper, what do you think? >> jobs. >> we need the mine. people still want to work the mine. they make good money. >> we'll be generating a billion dollars of economic stimulus a year. that's the equivalent of two, three, four super bowls every year for 40 years right here in the town of superior. >> reporter: jump in the

bucket, and you can see the resolution copper mine already runs more than a mile deep. they've been developing this mine for year, and when it's all said and done, it should bring thousands of jobs to the area. but to finish the mine, the company wants to trade property it owns for 2500 acres owned by the federal government, land the apache tribe considers sacred. >> we have ceremonies there, prayer there. we felt it necessary that the public know how close we are and how tied we are to that area. >> reporter: now it's up to congress to decide on the land swap, a deal one congressman opposes. >> what's in it for the taxpayer? what is the real value of this extraction, and is this trade worth it? >> from one community -- for one comment, it's not worth losing its heritage. for the other, the value could be priceless. you heard from one congressman who opposes, a number of lawmakers are in favor of it, and we're told this could come up at some point in the very

near future. jenna: what a great look for us inside the mine and everything. thank you very much. we'll continue to watch this story. jon: well, americans love our steak, mmm, and especially chicken. but eating too much is being tied to increased mortality in a huge sector of the population. enough said. [laughter] we'll tell you about that coming up. also it is a skier's delight. the snow is falling out west. where the slopes are opening early, coming up. >> much better than the last two years. last two years were really --

jon: right now an associate of formel star aaron hernandez is headed to a massachusetts courtroom. about an hour from now, carlos

ortiz will be arraigned as accessory to murder related to the case against hernandez. he is expected to plead not guilty. prosecutors say ortiz was with hernandez when odin lloyd was shot dead in an industrial park back in june. hernandez is charged with murder. the former new england patriots' tight end has pleaded not guilty. jenna: well, a big, juicy steak might sound delicious right now -- it sort of does, actually, at this time of day. but a new study is finding eating too much red meat and chicken is linked to an increased mortality among men but not among women. hmm. dr. samadi's with us, a member of the fox news medical a-team. do you buy this, that red meat might affect men differently than women and we can eat all the hamburgers we want? [laughter] >> i've got to be careful. look, i think this is a very interesting study because most of the ones we've had so far has

been from north america studies, they have been very limited, and they've been also very inconsistent. this one, the reason why i i like it so much is because it's coming from china. they're looking at about 134,000 population which is reasonable, and now based on what they see after years of follow up, they see that there is a cancer-specific cause of death among men when they consume a lot of red meat. we haven't had this kind of research in the past. so one theory behind is that men are using more red meat, they're eating more, 54 grams versus 43 grams as opposed to women. awe also there's going to be more to this. jenna: what do you think it is? why would it be -- would it be something different about the way the body jests it -- body digests it? >> among the men who were the higher income, they were fine, but lower income, they had bigger problem. so whether they go to the doctors after they have consumed the red meat, whether they drink more wine with this or not, very engaging exercises or not, we

don't know. but it's a very interesting finding. the message for men out there is to be careful about the amount of red meat and pork you consume every day. one or two portions a week is okay, but if you're having this every day, be careful. jenna: a week? >> a week, is what i said. jenna: i'm repeating it so my husband hears it. [laughter] you said it right. let me ask you about this other topic as well, deals specifically with your field, which is cancer. a new announcement says it's the first time that air pollution has been classified in its entirety as causing cancer. how significant is that? >> it's a big deal, jenna, because international agency of research and cancer is for the first time announcing that air pollution is part of the group one category as a carcinogenic for lung and bladder cancer which is my field of urology. this has not happened before. we talked about smoking, secondhand smoking, all these

particles in the air, but now overall air pollution is considered as a risk factor. jenna: but i can choose not to smoke. ¢ choose not to -- i can't choose not to breathe, so what do we do a about it? which we're starting to find out in the industrial countries, fast-growing transportation, fuels, etc., we are at risk. we're all at risk. there's nothing that you personally can do, you're not going to be walking around with maas aings -- jenna: i have that question, because people in new york city wear the mask, and i wonder if that actually works. does it work? >> it does work, but who's going to wear that all the time? jenna: that's true. not practical. >> i think what we should do as a government, as people in charge, we should start to look for healthier ways for fuel, better cars and on and on. and i think that would be -- that's, at least with this we can really look at our fuel system and try to organize it better so we will have less of these pollutions in the air. jenna: well, doctor, in the meantime, we'll debate the situation if it gets worse.

>> but you have control over your steak, so one steak a day is not going to keep the doctor away. [laughter] jenna: thank you very much, appreciate it. jon: i want to go out for a steak with jenna's husband. that's what i want to do. [laughter] a new kind of vehicle safety test, this one for the dogs. we'll show you what spurred one pet owner to develop this test that could make your pet safer on the road.

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inches in the mountains and forecasters predict another two inches. it is good news for the skiers and ski resorts. makes you happy when you show that staph. >> have yourself a good woke week. >> america's news headquarters is next. i am bill hemmer. here is the mist row anchor. >> i made it. what d did you say about me. >> i said the chair is empty now but there will be a mystery anchor. >> hey, everybody. i am a rthel neville in for a liston camerota. insurance companies say it is major and straining the ability to