because you can't eat an oarfish. who knew. now we all know together. that is how fox reports on this sunday, october 20, 2013. thank you for watching. have a fantastic week. huckabee starts right now. tonight on "huckabee," teachers forced to join unions and pay dues. >> my union uses my money to fight against something that i believe in very strongly. >> bullied and silenced by her union, she is now suing to keep politics out of education. and -- >> her body was left on the tarmac for three hours. >> the father of one of the four killed in bengahzi demanding answers. >> wish that he had sent the troops that everyone knows were

available. >> charles wood with the response that he got. did he get the answers he wanted? pl plus. punished for helping a drunk friend get home stafsafely. guidance tonight. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [ applause ] >> thank you. what a great audience we have here. thank you all. and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. did the republicans make a heroic stand as in the alamo? or a poorly planned and executed assault who ignored the scouting reports of the strength of the opposition and who made

assumptions of the battle that proved not to be true? men fought to the death to protect what was theres in little big horn and last week in washington, republicans launched a fight that was not a plan of the battle tested generals but rather a plan of the newest recruits. blame the press, the establishment, the liberals, blame one's own team the charge up the hill for a great cause but without following the counsel of jesus who admonished to count the cost before starting a war. but liberalism is not destroying the republican party. that is not liberalism. there are no republican congressional liberals. legalism, not liberalism is dividing the gop. now see what legalism does to the church. it is focusing more on how one

expresses belief than what one believes. the liberal might abandon the biblical truth but the legalist abandons biblical love. that makes the method equal to the message. the facility becomes equal to the fellowship of the church. there is artificial purity they claim is the truth. but truth is the way they do church more than the spirit with which they do it. it's a self-right shsness that focuses on self sin stead of a humble growth righteousness. for the fair sees, purity in faith is focused on external behavior. look, some people eat their soup louder than others but it doesn't mean the soup tastes

better. legalism is declaring that the purity of conservism is based on a following of a particular personality or taking a specific tactical path way. the greatest threat is not from lib calls but from legalists in its ranks who would rather raise and spend vast amounts of money to defeat another republican than deteet a democrat. the indignation of those who elevate themselves because they can cause a train krek. we ought to ask if the purpose is to derail the train or to turn it around. derailing the train is easy. turning around takes time, patience, perseverance and planning. my political heroes spent a lifetime fighting slavery. and dr. martin luther king who died fighting injustice and racism. they understood that politics

and change is not just a singular event. but they were humble and forgiving. they never got all they wanted. but they got more than nothing. and if republicans really want to defeat the threat of libbism and socialism they need to learn that their friends are not their enemies. [ applause ] according to a wall street journal report, insurance companies say that faulty data is causing major problems and delaying some sign ups. the most common errors are duplicate enrollments and spouses reported as children. that may not be too far off. but the glitches don't end there. you won't believe what we found. >> all right.

let's take care of this obama care 1, 2, 3. easy. >> what is your age? >> 33. >> what is your income? >> little personal but $50,000. >> do you exercise? >> oh yeah. i'm real healthy. >> do you enjoy hiking? >> huh? >> do you have kids? >> no. >> do you want kids some day? >> what? >> how did you vote? >> all right. this is getting way too personal. thank god it's over. >> based on the information you have provided at this time, the affordable care act feels you should go on a date. >> what? i thought i was signing up for obama care. >> click okay to see your match. >> all right. why not. >> meet your match. >> ehh.

>> name, carlos danger. >> i hope obama care doesn't go like that for everybody. >> as of wednesday night, i now have four grandchildren. [ cheers and applause ] >> this is william huckabee sanders. he arrived weighing 7 pounds and 9 ounces. they will call him huk. and let me promise you something. it was their idea. although i'm just fine with it. now chandler, scarlet, care line grace and huck. it is going to be noisy this year at christmas and we couldn't be happier. being grandpa to four yound grandchildren, i'm concerned with a couple of story making headlines. two teen age girls were arrested

after police said that their relentless bullying led to the suicide of a 12-year-old girl. one of the girl's parents could ams be charged for knowingly allowing her child to post the pullying comments online. vivian has already been charged with two counts of child abuse, bodily harm and neglect. police say this video shows her punching and screaming profanities at the two kids who were fighting. meanwhile, 17-year-old honors student and volleyball team captain wiz stripped of her role as captain and suspended for five games after she drove to pick up a friend from a party saying she was too drunk to drive.

does zero tolerance lead to zero common sense? how do parents keep up with what their kids are doing? she blogs on jenny erikson.com and richard greenburg, father of four, and author of the book "raising children that other people like to be around." great title. your youngest graduated from high school this past year this whole idea of zero tolerance, have we just gone too far with it and lost any sense of common sense? >> well, you know, my mom used to say don't be so open minded that your brain falls out. and i think that you can't look at things in such abc lutds esessentially in a situation who went to do the right thing and suddenly this authority is punishing her. that leads to a lack of confidence in the authority. the authority is behaving in a

way that doesn't make sense. if you want to lead your children you have to be logical about it. and you have to understand that circumstances vary. and that black and white situations that are, you know, zero tolerance aren't helpful unless the kids understand what their purpose is and helping your friend is not the purpose of that particular policy. >> mothers against drunk driving normally pretty rational and came out and said that the school was right to suspend erin because she should have called an adult. that girl would have never called an adult. did madd go mad on this one? >> i feel that madd is absolutely in the wrong. a teen age girl at a party, had too much to drink. i think it's incredible that they called a friend. the drinking mistake is one thing. the mistake has been made. what do you do with it.

not a lot of teenagers are going to call an adult when they have made a bad mistake. the friend came and got her. the friend did the right thing. we will deal with the underage drinking as another topic. >> a girl kills herself after being bullied for months. should the parents have the responsibility for the fact that their daughters had relentlessly bullied this girl for months and months on sneend? if your kids were bullying somebody, if you found out they were, how would you handle that? >> to entertain the idea that my kids would be the bully, that doesn't work because that does not follow the values. if my children were misbehaving and i found out about it, i would have to sit them down and

have a serious conversation and throw at them how would you feel if somebody treated you this way? if they were intensetive, i would have to show them that there are a lotd of people in pain. and this is not a way to go through life, being mean to other people. it's not going to bode well for you. i would teach my child that those people who are pullying is going to have to live with themselves. it's not your problem. you're not a person who is worthy of being bullied. the people bullying you are the ones going down the wrong path. >> what would you think is the right way to deal with the parents of the girls who did the bullying. should they be held accountable or responsible for some of the behavior of their kids? >> if they are not willing to take responsibility for their children. one of the girls' parents saying i don't think anything is wrong with this. we don't know any of the other social media sites. they are completely uninvolved. this is definitely parental

neglect. >> should parents understand something about things like facebook? >> absolutely. that's your duty as a parent. it's why you're here. you're to train up your kids and to turn a blind eye is doing our kids an incredible disservice. >> it's great to have you both here. tough, tough cases in both of them. but it's nice to hear from some responsible parents. maybe somebody is listening out there. still to come, charles woods asked pointed questions to the president about the death of his son in benghazi. and we will find out just exactly how the president responded. >> first she said the very same unions that are supposed to represent her is silencing her. the teacher suing her union is next. >> i would like to hear from you. go to my website and tell me what you think on the leave feed back section. or sign up for my facebook page

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teach ares don't choose their career because they want money. they do what they do because of their passion to help children learn. but a growing number of teachers are fed up with the unions that are supposed to represent them and put politics a head of stouns. >> rebecca is a fourth grade teacher in california. one of 26 states across the country which forces public school teachers to join unions. she is part of ten teachers suing the california teacher's association. [ applause ] i doubt that has made you real popular with some of the teachers back there but you have saying this violates your first

amendment right to speak what do they want to force you to participate in that is offensive to you? >> governor, my union pushes for salary increases, for example, when my students and they parents are in the middle of this poor economy. the parents are losing their jobs and taking pay cuts and then my union is fighting to get me more money. that's offensive to me. and they also fight for tenure laws that make it almost impossible to remove teachers that have become -- incompetent. >> what about the fact that you have said that unions can be like bullies. we just had a segment on bullying. in what way? >> the number one way that a teacher won't speak up about the unions is because they feel intimidated. there is a culture of fear, this undercurrent of fear. for example, when i started to join this lawsuit in april, and

teachers found out about it, the three most common things they would say to me, the first one is thank you for doing something that i'm too afraid to do. the second was do you have a body guard. and the third was are you afraid for your life? >> wow. >> that's how bad it is. >> well, when you feel like there has been a lot of activity that the union does, what things does the union do that you say i don't want my money to pay for that? >> they are numerous. i will begin with my union fights against a parent's right to choose an education for his or her child. >> you believe in school choice? >> absolutely. >> that's not very popular with very many unions. >> it is not, but i believe it is popular with many teachers. some side with the union and that's fine but many of us feel the other way. i am in support of vouchers and my union has spent millions

fighting voucher initiatives. vouch vouchers, i believe, are common sense. they would save millions in tax dollars and they are very good for the poor children who are stuck in low performing schools. to me, vouchers are common sense. >> do the dues support political candidates that are not necessarily in line with what you feel and believe? >> absolutely, yes. here is the -- i say funny for lack of a better term. we sit in the teacher's lounge each time there is an election campaign psychle and the cta comes out with a magazine and in the back they list all the candidates we should vote for and all the initiatives we should vote for and my colleagues and i sit there and laugh because we say oh, i use this guide as a way not to vote. >> i want to keep up with the lawsuit. let us know how this progresses. we would love to have you back when there is is a resolution

and we will see who won. >> thank you. >> we hope it's you. thank you very much for being here. coming up, all right, who should get fired over the obama care website? and the return of joe biden. my take on the notable quotables. that's next, we'll be right back. s check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. silence. are you in good hands? and better is so easy withrning you cabenefiber.o something better for yourself. fiber that's taste-free, grit-free and dissolves completely. so you can feel free to add it to anything. and feel better about doing it. better it with benefiber.

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>> vice president biden was absent during the shut down negotiations, but the very morning after the government reopened, vice president joe biden welcomed furloughed workers back to their jobs, offering them some muffins. >> what you saw last night is democrats who have a significant number of responsible

republicans saying enough. there is no economic rational for any of this. budgets are supposed to be fought over economic issues. there was no economic rational for this at all. i hope that everybody walks away with a lesson that this is unnecessary and hopefully regain the trust of the american people. >> you know, the real question, where was joe biden during all of this? this guy spent 40 years in the senate. there is nobody on the democratic side who frankly is a better negotiator and does a better job of putting it together. in fact we were so worried about what happened to joe that we sent out an amber alert. but the amber alert system was shut down because of the government shut down. so we put his face on a milk carton. where is joe? finally when it's all settled, he shows up with some muffins right out of his easy bake oven. next time you might want to show up. we could use a real negotiator.

since the obama care exchanges opened on october 7, we have hear more about glitches on the site than we have about successes. insurance companies are having problems. what's the solution? here's former obama press secretary robert gibbs. >> this is excruciatingly embarrassing for the white house and department of health and human services. this was bhungaled badly. this was not a server problem. i hope they are working day and night to get this done. i hope they fire some people that were in charged. >> i do, too. great idea. fire some people who messed up. but i wouldn't hold your breath this is a government -- nobody has been fired for fast and furious. nobody has been fired for benghazi or the irs. nobody has been fired for obama care or anything that has been a

disaster so far in thissed a administration. when i heard gibbs being that honest and clear, i started missing robert gibbs. i didn't think that was possible. robert, we miss you. come back robert, come back. all right, this week, representative had strong words for national park director. it was only two years earlier when occupy protesters were able to break the law for 100 days. >> the law says no camping but the protesters camped anyway and you didn't do anything in terms of arrest or citations for over 100 days. so i want you to fast forward two years. parks are closing, access to monuments is restricts and

access for those who helped build the monument in the first place. you didn't wait 100 days to enforce the law with veterans who wanted to see their monument. you didn't work to gain compliance. veterans weren't greeted with a measured and reasoned response, they were greeted with barricades on the very first day. >> wow. what can i say? trey nailed it. i was thinking there is nothing i could add because he was spot on. baa i do have one question. watching jarvis sit there in that seat, do you wonder who had to bring the mop in and clean up under that chair after that particular moment? that's what i would like to know. >> the father of tyrone woods killed in benghazi wrote the

president and asked why did his son not get the help the night that he died. and he showed me the letter right here on the show. charles woods did hear back from the president but did he get the answers that he wanted? he will tell us next because he's going to be here. [ applause ] withhe sto

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ted cruz receiving violent and graphic online messages. detectives looking into several tweets on his twitter feed. some people blame him for shutting down the dwmt. other hails him as a hero for listening to the people. now back to "huckabee." >> spanned over ten hours and took the lives of four americans. >> make no mistake, justice will be done. >> tyrone woods, a father of three, had ignored orders to stand down and fought to his death to save the lives of others. tyrone's father appeared on our show last month and told us he

reached out to president obama for answers. >> i did send the president a letter saying there are several questions that i would like to have answered in order to bring closure to my family. i'm sure that he will -- he is very busy right now with syria but i'm sure when his plate is more empty he will respond. >> with all due respect, you deserve an answer, the rest of america deserves an answer and the president should make time to give you and the rest of this country an answer as to why your son died that night. >> since that appearance, charles received this response from the president. but did he get the answers he was asking for? charles woods once again joins us. it's great to have you back. >> thank you. >> do you feel that the president answered the questions that you raised in your letter to him? >> the two most important questions he did not answer. >> what were those questions? >> first of all would be who gave the order to stand down?

now i wanted to make sure that there was an order to stand down so i contacted the reporter that initially reported that and that reporter told me that he personally talked with a friend of ty who was on the ground with him and there were three orders to stand down. that, not only -- probably would have saved the life of our ambassador if there had not been that delay three times. plus, the fact if ty was ordered to stand down and told not to -- that there would not be any rescue for the ambassador, there sure would not be rescue for him. >> the letter said on that tragic day, i directedly national security team to do everything responsible to respond to the ateblgts against our people. the united states government considered a range of options and deployed additional military capabilities but as our leaders have said, the military forces needed to carry out the type of

operation you describe were not close enough to have made a differen difference. do you believe that is the truth? >> that is not a correct statement. the military leaders did not -- i will say the joint chiefs of staff that there were not assets immediately available. in fact, congressman jason chafez, immediately after this happened, went to benghazi with general ham in charge of all of the area. he had control of the assets. he wanted to rescue. that's the standing order. always rescue. he received orders from above and there is only two people in the white house above him that could have contradicted the normal procedure to rescue. >> you know one of the statements that he made this is from congressman. he said i appreciate the president's response to mr. woods but i remain skeptical of the lack of military response. brave americans were struggling

to stay alive while wishing for the arrival of u.s. military personnel. some forces were repositioned, none were directed towards the sound of the guns. it sounds like there is is a contradiction. the president went so far in his letter to you and i want to quote this statement. he said that please know that my actions would have been the same if the attack had been against my own family. do you believe that is, in fact, the case? obviously our audience does not. >> i asked him that question. and this is a father to father personal question from my heart. now, i don't know about him, but i know myself, i would not have checked out for seven hours as d the secretary of defense said that the president did, and not worried about it. i could not and would not have gone to sleep until i knew that every effort was made to rescue. no effort was made.

i mean, for three hours after it happened, ty's body was on the tarmac and an american plane was not even sent not only to not rescue but not even to pick up his body. when he said we didn't have time to respond, how do you know? this was almost an eight hour battle. he didn't know how long it was going to last whether it was one hour, eight hours or eight days. but i have talked with a fighter pilot highly decorated who has 24 25 years experience and he says that within approximately one hour, f-16s could have hot landed in italy and could have completed their mission in benghazi with drop tanks and if their fuel was low, could have flown to the capital city of libya. so that is not correct. >> so the letter you got in response, but it never answered those basic questions that you

had. charles, when you were here last time you gave me a picture of your son. i put that picture right in front of me in my office. there is not a day that goes by that i don't see charles' picture in front of me. we're not going to let this country forget what ty and those other americans went through. i can't thank you a lot. i want to consider to be in touch. i don't want this country to let this issue alone until we know the truth. [ applause ] . charles, thank you very much. thank you, sir. >> your parents take care of you throughout your entire life. taking care of them when they get older can become a real financial burden. we will ask if people ought to be required by law to care for their ages parents. stay with us. plap before copd...

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those laws are rarely ever enforced. in china, a country based on big government, there is a law that says the elderly can shoe their own children to make sure they can sue their own children. i like that for my kids. but should the united states citizens be obligated to care for their aging parents? join eing me now was pat. she is a real tough problem for a lot of families. your family decided to take care of your mom for 25 years you guys have shared that responsibility. tell me about the blessings and burdens of making that decision. >> there are many more blessings than burdens.

she helped me raise my children. we decided to move in together because we had lost my father 30 year as ago. my mom is 99 and has some health issues but we work through them. she has been there for every single event in my families life. and it has been a blessing. >> is there a point for some families when there is no longer an option because maybe acute medical needs that require more attention and time than a family has the resources to do? this has got to be a tough decision. >> absolutely. i'm sure there will come a point or there is a point when you can no longer care -- when a

person's illness becomes untreatable at home. you can rely on other family members and neighbors and facilities. you can bring people in to help you. i think sending an elderly family member out should be a last resort and not the first. >> that does happen as the first thing so many times. have we come to the place where we think that the government is responsible for the aging and not necessarily the family? >> it has to be family first. i think too much government is intrusive. i think government can be incompetent. i know best what my family needs and what's good for my mother. my mother has flourished. she's a part of the family. she has been there for the good, bad, and ugly. she has just done so well.

she just doesn't sit in front of a television set. she interacts with the family. we eat all of our meals together. and she is very much aware of politics. she can tell you who the players are. >> maybe she can give them some advi advice. >> she absolutely can. >> what a great story. thank you so much. >> they were happily married for nearly 75 years. she passed away earlier this year. heartbroken, he wrote a love letter remembering their good times together. and that letter has become one of the most viewed songs on youtube. the song and the remarkable story behind it. you cannot miss or next segment. we will be right back. i need some candy.

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>> at 96 years old, he is the oldest art tits to appear on billboard's top 100 charts. the video for his song old sweet lorraine has gone viral. it attracted more than 4 million views on youtube. when you see and hear his story you are going to hear why. >> he first laid eyes on lorraine in 1938 when he was working at a root beer stand in peoria, illinois. >> she was the prettiest girl i ever saw. i fell in love with her right there. >> they got married in 1940 and remained married for 72 years until she passed away last april at the age of 91 just before their anniversary. he honored his wife by writing a song. he called it oh sweet lorraine. he entered a song in a local

song writing contest. music producers were moved the love letter to his late wife. >> entitled it sweet lorraine. the letters he sent us it was so heartwarming. >> the song became an instant hit on the charts and on-line. fred has received letters from fans around the world. >> it was a wonderful 75 years. i often think that i am dreaming or something. but it was real. that's all i can say. it was real. >> would you please welcome fred stobaugh who wrote "sweet lorraine" and james who recorded the song. what an honor to have you here. >> thank you. >> what made you say i am going to write a song to my wife?

>> well, we were inseperable so one evening it sort of came to me. i sat down and wrote it. >> did you ever think so many people across the country would connect with you and connect with a song about a relationship of 75 years? >> no, i didn't. not at all. never dreamed itl would ever happen like that. never, never. just like a dream. the dream is ours to have you here. we thank you very much. when you first got the lyrics to the song what went through your mind, okay, this could be really a hit? >> it didn't start off with that. he sent in a submission instead of on-line he sent it in a large manila envelope. on the back it said ps i don't sing, i would scare people, haha. right there it was interesting.

it was something different. it was a beautiful letter he wrote about her and how sweet she was. there were the lyrics which were so compelling. we had to do something and bring it to life. called him a few days later called him and told him what we were going to do. who knew it would blow up like this. >> we hope we can get through the song. it's a powerful song. it's called "oh sweet lorraine." it is available on itunes. i would love to ask you to go download this song, download "oh sweet lorraine" on itunes and you will find it to be a beautiful song. fred wrote it for his wife, sweet lorraine. ♪ ♪ oh sweet lorraine

♪ i wish we could do all the good times over again ♪ ♪ oh sweet lorraine life only goes round once and never again ♪ ♪ oh sweet lorraine ♪ i wish we could do all the good times over again ♪ ♪ the good times ♪ the good times ♪ the good times ♪ all over again ♪ the good times ♪ the good times ♪ the good times all over again ♪ ♪ the memories always linger on oh sweet lorraine i don't want to move on ♪ ♪ oh the memories always linger on ♪ ♪ oh sweet lorraine that's why i wrote this song ♪

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