>> ricky writes sounds like the daughters were out of hand. tough love? yes. sometimes it's called for. thanks to everyone who responded. >> it is wednesday. go out there and have a great day. we'll see you here tomorrow at 5 a.m. bye. good morning. it is wednesday, october 23. i'm elisabeth hasselbeck. the signature achievement of his administration, so why didn't the president know the obamacare rollout would be such a failure? the woman he put in charge of it, kathleen sebelius, is going to speak out. >> if she has time. she's doing such a good job. remember this? >> if you get sick, america, the republican health care plan is this: die quickly. >> now that democrat congressman going even further, comparing the tea party to the kkk. >> and raising money off

it. while the i.r.s. was targeting conservative groups they were giving billions in tax credits to illegals. how does that happen? we'll try to answer. we have three hours to come up with something. wish us luck. "fox & friends" for this wednesday starts now. >> this is richard of the oak ridge boys and you're watching "fox & friends." >> can't even get close to that. >> very deep voice. >> we have a lot of famous friends with deep voices. >> for two and a half weeks we were talking about the shutdown, who is at fault, when will it end. shutdown, slowdown, slimdown, whatever it was. all the way on our 1-b section, do you see how obamacare srolg out. now there is nothing else to talk about except for the epic failure of obamacare, not for program, if it works, to actually

find out if it works. can't even sign off. 12% of the country says it is going well. the rest of us are saying what's wrong with that 12%? what are they watching? >> we were promised in 2009 this would be transparent. everything being presented, this would be a transparent administration. that is not happening. apparently tomorrow the president is set to meet with democrats to go over the glitches and the problems with the installation of obamacare. but republicans according to a report are not invited. >> democrats only. that should be an interesting meeting. what's interesting is the woman in charge of health care for the country is kathleen sebelius, former governor of my home state of kansas. she revealed a jaw dropper yesterday, said the president of the united states didn't know about the glitches, didn't know about the amazing failure rate, where three-quarters

of every person who tried to get on the week before failed. and that the website apparently was built to handle 50,000 or 60,000 people at a time but it broke down when there were just 200 people on-line. jay carney was there in the briefing room yesterday and reporters kind of woken up. they realized wait a minute, we've been sold a bill of goods because we were told this thing would work. jay carney was there taking questions but really had few answers. >> you're referring to h.h.s. for information. is it your expectation they will answer those questions? >> the website that is of considerable focus understandably is run by h.h.s. and c.m.s. they have a team in place that's working on it. they have brought in individuals as part of this tech surge to help them deal with problems on the

website. they are the people best situated to answer the questions you have. i would refer you to them about what questions they can answer. >> it seems like basicw informa. how much is it costing taxpayer money? as a washington reporter before you took this job, that would likely be something you felt is a right to know. will we get that information from h.h.s.? >> i will direct your question to h.h.s. i don't have that information. this is an operation being run by h.h.s. >> the president famously "the buck stops here." actually with jay carney, it's pass the buck. >> not even involved. where is the president? if he's locked out, it's terrible. if he's involved and knew it's going to happen, it's terrible. we're finding out yesterday, the company in charge of putting this thing together, they're saying by the regulations they gave us and parameters they handed us, th-frs -- this was the best they

could do. then we find out the president was locked out. then we find out kathleen sebelius never had the authority she needed to make a difference. is anyone going to take some responsibility for this disaster of a program? >> you would say with all due respect to the president, your name is all over this. this is nicknamed after you. this is something you're going point to point to sell everybody on and fine us if we don't join up. yet you're saying you're completely confident in a system which you either know is a failure or you have no idea about. i'm not sure which is more disturbing. >> all good points. clearly according to kathleen sebelius, the president was blind sided by -- keep in mind -- >> by her? .by her because she knew there were going to be problems but apparently she didn't tell. according to her, she didn't know by october 1. this is how it works in business. if people are working for you, never surprise the boss regarding their legacy

legislation. meanwhile, what's interesting is we heard they were going to have a tech surge. who do they call in? this fellow who was called in to help with cash for clunkers. he works for o.m.b. he will be the face of the tech surge. the great thing about this guy is -- and i love this -- this is a guy who got started at bain and company. in other words, the company that was excoriated during the campaign that mitt romney is being called to bail out the president's signature achievement. >> he was said to actually improve the debt and deal with the money situation since 2009 in this administration. so i have an idea. why don't we call him. >> just call mitt romney. >> every time paul ryan's committee and now the energy secretary, energy committee in the house asked to get information about this to see how it was going to follow up on the software and see how it was going to be implemented

they were rebuffed and not answer. from august to september, now october, the requests to get details on this to see how it was rolled out were just ignored much like the i.r.s. scandal, much like benghazi and everything else. thought it would go away. let's find out more about obamacare. let's plead with people to sign up for obamacare. the national football league was told help us get out the masses. the nfl said don't get us involved in politics. the ravens have said at the urging of their government we'll take the $130,000 check to help you, mr. president, the white house, sell obamacare to the fans of football. >> rand paul said last night something to the notion of why does it have to be sold so hard if it's so good? why the full-court press right now? right now we've gone to the baltimore ravens. the nfl said we don't want to be involved. they know the millions of people that watch the nfl. they know the marketing

machine that is the national football league. they understand how even breast cancer was brought to the front lines of what we're talking about in donations and money through the nfl. they figure instead of doing a national sweep which they're doing with health care, we're going to go team to team and see how many we can break. the baltimore ravens were the first to cave. i thought they had a good defense. >> they have a democratic governor who wants to run for president. that's tough. >> in the great state of maryland. meanwhile congressman alan grayson, he is the guy who famously during the health care debate said this on the floor of the u.s. congress. >> if you get sick, america, the republican health care plan is this: die quickly. >> the next election cycle he was voted out. but then they changed his district and he got reelected last year. interestingly enough now, he is trying to raise money for his campaign and for democrats with, take a look

at this. he's spelling "tea" with a flaming cross. can we put that on the screen so people can see how low alan grayson has gone right there. >> terrible. >> and what's interesting is -- this has been out there for a couple of days. where's the naacp? where's the d.n.c.? where's the president of the united states, allen west, also of florida. >> the president came out and started talking about civility and our dialogue. where's president obama. here we have a guy that's supposedly the first african-american president and we're supposed to be celebrating this end of racial animosity, but i think it has gotten even worse. i think the president should be speaking out about this and reprimand and censor. >> you can click through and donate to his campaign. he is standing by it and thinks it is a good thing. and the people in florida

in this new district that put him back in power, congratulations. he represents you. >> i went on the website. it is functioning quite well. any time you move your mouth or click with your hand you're automatically put to a page where you can make a quick donation easily. >> it would be great if whoever designed that page was working on the affordable care act. i don't think they want to put a flaming cross on it yet. i doubt it. i don't think they should. any way, what do you think about that? is that fine in the political rhetoric department or is it over the line? e-mail us. meanwhile ten minutes after the top of the hour. where were you, yesterday, heather? >> it was a sad day. i had to put my dog down in the middle of the night. i'm glad to be back with you now and he's resting comfortably. got some headlines. a white house national security official has been fired after he confessed that he is the man behind an anonymous twitter account that was bashing

the obama administration. joseph is his name, accused of secretly tweeting nasty comments about u.s. foreign policy since 2011. his targets included secretary of state john kerry, white house senior advisor valerie jarrett and sarah palin. a vigil was held for the marine veteran turned teacher who saved lives during a school shooting in nevada. mike landsberry survived two tours of duty in afghanistan and was working as a math teacher. that is when he spotted a 12-year-old student with a gun. landsberry tried to get the child to hand over the handgun but that child shot and killed him. >> he was a good hearted person. he would do anything for anybody. it's so surreal. i still can't fathom what happened. cherish every chance you get because you don't know when the last one will be. >> police believe that the

gun the boy had came from his own home. authorities are now looking at whether or not his parents can be charged. listen to this one. remember the city of bell, california? it is back in the news today. that is because this lady who is a former assistant city manager goes on trial. she is accused of setting insaeupbl high salaries for -- insanely high salaries for city employees and trying to hide it. she was making $375,000 each year before she was indicted. as for her boss, he is the distinguished senator -- he is the disgraced ex-city manager, he paid himself a million and a half dollars a year. remember when air force one did a flyover new york city for a photo op. that terrified thousands of people who lived through 9/11. take a look at this airplane. it was built to honor the

fdny. around 7:30 eastern time it will fly over manhattan. >> thanks for the heads up. 13 minutes after the hour. up next on this show, they threw a party while their parents were away. instead of being punished, their parents had them arrested. did they go too far or was it a great idea? stay tuned. >> the i.r.s. didn't just target tea party groups. turns out they targeted illegal immigrants too. only that group, they got tax breaks. stuart varney is on that next. ♪ ♪

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welcome back. new information out this morning about how our tax dollars are being spent. in 2010 alone, illegal immigrants in this country collected $4.2 billion in benefits using what is called the additional child tax credit. keep in mind they are in this country illegally. >> in all this time they were blocking conservative groups from receiving tax-exempt status. so how does that happen? stuart varney thankfully is here to bake down the details. does -- is here to break down the details. does that not specify who receives? >> it requires clarity. in 2009 the inspector general said clarify this. can illegals receive the child tax credit? no clarification was ever given. in fact, when there was a debate scheduled in the senate to debate this, should they get it or not, where's the clarity, that debate was blocked by senator harry reid. so the illegals continue to get the child tax credit. it adds up to billions of

dollars per year. here's how they do it. you go and you ask for an individual tax identification number. you don't have to prove legal residence for that. you can use it instead of a social security number. that tax identification number is then used to claim the child tax credit and the checks flow. there is one address in atlanta that received 2,39 -- 23,#994 payments. >> is there incentive to have more children with this happening? i was reading the more children there are, you can claim more money? is this a system set up for people to feed off this issue? >> that would be accurate. what it amounts to is a payment to stay. that's what it amounts to. it seems to me sometimes that the i.r.s. has become a division of the obama campaign. protecting supporters, harassing opponents, as in

the case of the tea party. >> if there is a silver lining at least they are paying tax. if they're filing taxes, they're getting that tax credit. there is another instance where the i.r.s. gave $132 billion in improper payments. >> this is the earned-income tax credit. this is where a refund is paid to people who may or may not have paid any taxes in the first place. lowe income -- low-income people. go back to 2009, an executive order was issued. hey, fix this problem. fix these improper payments. the i.r.s. came back and said if we do that, then maybe legitimate claimants won't claim. so we can't do that. so we're still paying out billions of dollars per year in improper payments to low-income people who have not paid any tax in the first place but get a tax refund. >> i feel terrible hearing that. >> it inspires confidence because these are the people who are going to be

in charge of the affordable care act. >> have fun everybody. just have fun. >> we're going to be stuart at 9:20 eastern over on fox business. >> thank you, stuart. the president is promising glitches in the obamacare website. what comes after that? we're going to break down the disaster next. >> dozens of drivers calling the cops because of this: a guy hanging on to a hot air balloon. it kind of looks like he's in trouble; right? wait till you hear the rest of the story. [ male announcer ] introducing new fast acting advil. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the white box.

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quick headlines. four people facing charges for that fight we showed you this week between the jets and patriots fans. jets won the game. the woman who got slugged in that video was one of the four slapped with an assault charge. cops say she was an aggressor. sounds at a murder scene in mexico may have come from an american bomb makers. the department of justice says a grenade was discovered at the location of a shootout at drug cartels. >> in his speech the president promised all the glitches in the obamacare website will be fixed. >> the product, the health insurance, is good. the prices are good. it is a good deal. people don't just want it. they're showing up to buy it. nobody's madder than me about the fact that the website isn't working as well as it should, which means it's going to get

fixed. >> if it does get fixed, everything should be running smoothly after; right? joining us to answer that question is john goodman, the president and c.e.o. and professor for policy analysis and the author of priceless: the health care crisis. good morning. we are obviously concerned about the website not working. what happens? say it does get fixed. millions of people go to it; what happens then? >> the big fear is the people who will make this effort will be people who are desperate and they're desperate because they're sick and need insurance. and the people who are healthy will try it once or twice and go away and you'll end up with only sick people. spoup you talk about a -- >> you talk about a death spiral. can you talk about what that is and why we're at risk of it happening. >> you start with a pool of people. you have healthy and some are sick. the insured discovers the average person in there is

sicker than they thought. then they have to raise the premium. after they raise the premium healthy people start dropping out. now the pool is sicker than it was before. so they have to turn around and raise the premium again. and then more healthy people drop out. and then in the end you end up with only a few sick people who are very, very expensive and the premium you have to charge is so high no one can afford it. and this is the insurance company equivalent of bankruptcy. we call it a death spiral. >> sure. if the healthy people, if they are the ones they're counting on to pay for it, obamacare, this is ultimately going to head to a broke system; right? >> absolutely. if the healthy people avoid this system, if only sick people are unrolling, insurers will not be able to survive and the whole thing will collapse. >> we're going to have a system that is broke, no cash. that's bad news. when we're talking about the why's, though, is this

because the price is set across the board that it doesn't matter if you have incentive to be healthy, that we're all forced to pay for the same thing? >> no. the problem is that they're making it so difficult for people to sign up that only the sick people will persevere and do it. to make matters worse, almost all the states that have risk pools are going to end their risk pools on january 1. in texas, for example, they will move 23,000 high-cost patients from the risk pool over to the exchange. >> that is disheartening to hear. is there anything that can be done in the meantime? >> of course it would be nice if these computer programs worked. if they don't, if you make it really difficult for people to sign up, only the sickest patients will enroll. another problem is cities like detroit are going to dump their retirees on the exchanges and those retirees are above-average health care costs. so a lot of things could go wrong here and we could have a real bad collision.

>> certainly john goodman, you are the mind behind the money of medicine. thank you for joining us this morning. coming up, parents called the cops on their own kids for having a party while they were out of town. police hauled those kids off to jail. did mom and dad's lesson go too far? brand-new revelations overnight. the state department coordinates national security leaks to give itself a tougher image. those startling details next. first happy birthday to ryan reynolds. he is 37 today. [ male announcer ] crabfest ends soon, ♪ so hurry in and try three succulent entrées. like our new snow crab and crab butteshrimp, just $14.99. only at red loter where we sea food differently.

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parents. i find now when your kids are 17 or 16 and you go out of town, you literally -- you're five years ahead of your time when it comes to alcohol and you could get yourself in legal trouble if your kids break the law in your own house. >> our you could get your own kids in trouble. that is what happened in connecticut. a 15 and 16-year-old were throwing a party at their home. the parents came back and saw the kids running out the house and then they call the cops, which some say it was the right thing to do. >> they called the cops on their own kids. >> i would have thought a nanny cam to spy on them. can you do that now? >> how about a neighbor, the johnsons, is my kid drinking rangold. >> an officer who responded said the parents did the right thing by calling the police because the kids are

underage. i have been trying to figure out why the parents called the cops on their kids. they came home and said our two beautiful daughters would never throw a party. somebody else came wup this. i'm -- came up with this. i'm going to call the cops and find out. >> it was the third party. >> right. i think the girls probably told their parents this was not our idea. we're so sorry, mom and dad, and then they called the cops. because their little angels would never do anything. >> we have our facebook question of the day. would you call the cops on wour own kids for throwing -- call the cops on your own kids for throwing a party? tell the truth. go to facebook at friends@foxnews.com. >> they are in legal trouble, in the system. >> many schools say if you have illegal drinking going on in your home, you must

report it. >> plus you've got to remember, i wonder if the parents wound up shooting themselves in the foot because they own the house where the party happened. if you want to get into legal -- >> the glastonbury newspaper has the story. we want you to go to facebook and post responses. >> meanwhile heather nauert with the headlines. >> maybe these girls learned an important lesson. >> end the party before mom gets home. >> there is a brand-new report out this morning in the daily caller. listen to this. it suggests that hillary clinton's state department leaked confidential national security secrets to a "new york times" reporter who was writing a book. the report suggests that the leaks dating back to 2011 may have been coordinated in order to give the department and the administration a tougher

image. this is "new york times" reporter david sanger and he may have used those secrets in writing a book highlighting the administration's military accomplishments. we'll hear more about this. nearly 600 dogs died and 3, 600 sickened after eating jerky treats made in china. among the products recalled, nestle pr -- purina company wagon train. the f.d.a. says they need help zeroing in on what is so harmful to these animals. people are being urged to contact the f.d.a. if their dog gets sick. several drivers frantically calling the cops because of this. there was a guy dan tkelg from a -- a guy dangling from a hot air balloon but it turns out it was a bunch of hot air. he was filming a video for a workout prescription drug coverage, a bar used to

create suspension workout. he was doing pullouts on that bar while hanging mid air. those are your headlines. back to you. >> reminds me of the balloon boy story. maria, you have the weather; correct? >> we're tracking a hurricane, a category one storm across parts of the eastern pacific ocean. it has been sitting out here near the city of acapulco and producing significant rainfall. we're talking up to 15 inches of rain anticipateed from this storm. it was earlier a category 3 hurricane, the first one in the western hemisphere this year. it is finally beginning to move away from mexico and weaken over the next several days. in our country we have several frost advisories and freeze warnings in effect across areas in the midwest, parts of the northeast and all the way down to parts of georgia

and also the carolinas. you're going to be looking at a little bit of frost during the early morning hours over the next several days because that cold air is here to stay. take a look at chicago. your high temperature today, just 47. only 40 in minneapolis. in new york city a little cooler today with a high temperature at 54. now let's head over to you guys. >> football season is on; right? what's the favorite thing to do before the game, after and sometimes during? you've got to tailgate. who better to tailgate with than the founder of famous dave's. we are going to show everyone your secrets. you have 200 locations of famous dave's and they are good. we're going to grill today and you're going to make some of the favorites. >> we're going to spill the beans on how to jack up the flavors. famous dave's is all about layering of flavors. a lot of people are getting ready for tailgating. instead of putting hot dogs and burgers on a grill we

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millions of people are playing fantasy football this year. it helps sell the game. some are taking it too far, don't you think? tweeting death threats to a running back saying this. this is what came across for him on his iphone. fulfill my order stated in the previous tweet or that's your life, bro and i'm not playing. here's what he's responding to. brandon jacobs was tweeting if you don't run for 50 yards and two touchdowns tonight it's over for you and your family. is fantasy football becoming a nightmare who just want to go out this and win.

here with us is jerry rice. has it gotten too big? are the players starting to feel pressure because real money is involved. >> i think fantasy football is big. when i played in the day it was not as big. you've got almost 30 million people playing fantasy football. it is a billion dollar industry. i think with the technology it is helping those individuals that's not athletes where they can get all the data, they can get all the information they need so they can make smart decisions.ñi >> for the longests time people got involved in the game by betting. now people play fantasy football can win $100,000. chrisñi johnson runs for 20 yards but his team won. he's getting threats on his twitter account because he didn't wrap a big game. you get more points the more you run. >> when i played professional football, i got death threats. you take it very seriously but you've got to know as a

professional athlete, you're going to have people send messages like that. >> i guess you've got to alert the officials. with fantasy football becoming bigger and bigger, i talked to fran tarkenton. tell me what intel is doing. >> they are transforming the game with devices where they can put down the stats and also they're powering those devices that fans use to play fantasy football. another thing too, 20,000 pieces of information is taken from a single game. now you can give that information to those sports fans where they can make very smart decisions. >> this is what my son does. he's got his ipad out while he watches the game. he's watching the game but he's seeing how he's doing in his league. how many catches jerry rice has, everybody else has.

>> it's like myth season. you've got to make critical decisions and you need to have that data if you're going to bring someone on board. >> do you play? >> no, i don't play but i'm very aware of it because i get asked all the time about different players. should i bring this player on my team? and if he can play in cold weather, how does he function? i think you can get all that information from intel. >> did the 49ers make the right choice trading alex smith? >> i think alex smith is doing a fantastic job in kansas city right now. they're 7 and 0. i think at that time he was playing his best football. colin kaepernick is the future for the san francisco 49ers. but i think alex smith should still be in san francisco. >> you do? so this year he should still be with the 49ers? >> yeah, because he was playing his best football. he went on to a different situation and he's doing

well. i think he was that missing piece for kansas city. colin kaepernick, he's doing his thing in san francisco. >> jerry rice, never looked better. don't be surprised if you put the eye black on and play football. >> i can still do it. >> who are you talking to? are you talking to one of the mariners? you want to play for the giants? let me tell you what's coming up straight ahead. great to see you, jerry. you look forward to your tax return every year? don't get excited. how the government shutdown is screwing everything up. it's the show that takes viewers on the ultimate hunt for riches. >> a reward could be beyond their wildest dreams. >> is that what i think it is? >> a game changer. >> the stars of "gold rush" here next. ♪ ♪ ooh, homemade soup! ♪ yeah... [ male announcer ] try campbell's homestyle soup

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for three season attention, viewers followed the stars of the hit discovery channel series "gold rush" on their quest for the ultimate golden payoff. they're back for a fourth season. i believe this weekend, friday night, and this time they're making it the most dangerous location ever. >> in their fourth season gold mining, each man faces a life changing decision. >> it's a whole nother level of risk. >> this scares the hell out of me. >> those brave enough to commit to todd's new dream. >> going to take a gamble right now. >> go. >> set out deep into the jungles. >> what hostile jungles of south america? joining us is the father and son duo from the show, jack and todd hoffman.

good morning to both you. >> thank you. >> what's so scary about south america. >> people think of rio and the beaches, but that's not true. we're up in guyana, we've got jungles and snakes, people that are pretty dangerous, you know. they've never seen a bunch of guys coming in there with all this big equipment and it's scary. it's scary, the whole adventure is unbelievable. >> reporter: jack, this is a lot different than 25 years ago when you were up in alaska panning for gold, isn't it? >> absolutely. number one is, i'm old, if you haven't noticed. and. >> i'll vouch for that. >> it really takes its toll. not only the heat, but just the work, you know, and then you've got everything else against you. >> the elements, the snakes and stuff like that. last season, i think you wrapped up as the big winner. what did you have, 800 ounces? >> we did 1.2 million is what we dug out. >> that's fantastic!

>> yeah, it's good. >> but it's all on the line going into the show friday. >> we throw it all in because you take all your bills and everything and 1.2 million doesn't go a long way when off big team. we're looking fort big hit. we're looking for a place that's virgin ground, we can go in there and really kill it. and then get everybody a bunch of gold. >> one of your opponents is this kid parker. this season i understand he's putting $160,000 that his parents set aside for college to lease virgin land in south america so he could give you a bus. >> he could, you never know. you have to watch to find out. but i'll tell you one thing, as far as gold rush goes, this is the most intense footage and things that we've ever done. it's very, very dangerous what we're doing here. there is things on here this season starting friday that we have -- that you have never seen before on television. >> and that's one of the reasons

this is the highest rated show on the discovery channel is you guys do a lot of stuff. just like all of rest of us, looking for the hidden treasure. >> life's a gamble and we're throwing it all on the line. >> no kidding. "gold rush" returns this friday night, 9:00 p.m. eastern time. jack, todd, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> i'm going to go meet jerry rice. >> go ahead. might as well leave right number go ahead. they got to rush off. you want to stay here with me? >> next time you come up, you come meet us at our airport. >> will do. >> all right, jack. >> they got to go find gold. all right. coming up next on our program, a bombshell investigation revealing politicians are using your money as their own personal bank account. and get this, it is perfectly legal. the man exposing these loopholes comes up live next. and ever feel like saying this

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number and i'll call you later. >> well, sorry. we're not allowed to do that. >> oh, i guess you don't want people calling you at home. >> no. >> well, now you know how i feel. >> how to stop those pesky telemarketers once and for all. we've got the way to do it. "fox & friends" hour two for wednesday starts right now. >> hey, this is your buddy and you're watching "fox & friends". >> i certainly hope the hoffmans got out there to meet jerry rice before he left. i got to go! there is jerry rice! >> the hand goes, good night, everybody. drive safe. >> i love it. >> that is a great show. >> they're running out of here like lawmakers running out of washington, between the luck, slowdown, debt ceiling, it's been lifted, who won, now we're talking about obamacare. after three years, we finally have obamacare. wait a second, we can't log on or log in. we can't sign up.

why? because the software doesn't work. who do you blame? nobody. why? because everyone keeps pointing fingers. it's like trying to pick up a goldfish or a carp with your bare hands in the middle of a pond after bathing in algae. >> with the amount of demand that they've placed on the american people to get in there, with the amount of essentially financial threat, so you're paying a fine if you can't get on and if you can't in the next month, you're in big trouble, americans want answers. so they're not getting them. but apparently ed henry is trying to get answers. he went to jay carney to say who are we turning to exactly in terms of responsibility here? well, let's see if he turns up any answers. >> you're referring us to hhs for information. is it your expectation that they will answer those questions from us? >> the web site that is of considerable focus, understandably, is run by hhs and cms. they have a team in place that's

working on it. they have brought in individuals that's part of this tech surge to help them deal with the problems on the web site. so they are the people best situated to answer your questions you have. i would refer you to them about what questions they can answer -- >> take ed's question, which seems like a basic right to know information. how much is this costing, taxpayers money as a long-time washington reporter before you took this job, obviously that would likely be something that you felt was a right to know. will we get that information from hhs? >> i would address your question to hhs. i don't have that information. and this is an operation being run by hhs. >> you know, if they ever remake hogan's hero, jay carney really should apply for the job as sergeant schultz. i know nothing. ask some other department. it's interesting, though, this white house is famous for nobody ever taking responsibility. nobody is ever held accountable. you look at the irs thing, nobody got fired. benghazi, nobody got fired. that's the white house right

there. however, that changed yesterday. this is just crazy, the level of it. a guy had -- who worked for the administration -- had a fake twitter address, he got canned over that. nobody held accountable for the affordable care act. nobody held accountable for benghazi or the irs, or targeting journalists, but they do target the guy with the fake twitter. brit hume says, look, the stonewalling is because when people actually figure out what the affordable care act is all about, it's going to be bad. >> this rollout continues to be a fiasco as it's been so far for too much longer, the enrollment goals, sign-up goals that they have will not be met. the program will face a financial shortfall that will be major. there are all kinds of potential problems here and the determination to go forward with it gives you a sense of how well aware they were in political

terms of the fragility of this thing. i still think they made a terrible mistake going ahead with it. >> you can't say why did the president go ahead with it under these circumstances, evidently he wasn't told that this thing wasn't ready. >> you believe that? >> he wasn't told that the tests couldn't handle 2,000 people at the same time when he said this is going to be great october 1. so kathleen sebelius says, according to a source close to her, she has the title, but doesn't really have the responsibility. she was in charge of really explaining the program, not the software. and others say the white house insistence on having a program that doesn't let the consumer know what the price would be before they signed up, that's what the problem was. they couldn't design a software with that type of order. so their insistence on being politically correct caused the signers of the -- designers to say we did the best we could.

everybody is running for the hills. is trey gowdy surprised? no. >> this was not a pop quiz. the monday after spring break that was sprung on us. we had $500 million in three years to prepare for october 1, 2013. we knew that date was coming. for political reasons, they did not want to admit that there were any issues. they would rather explain why it's not working than postpone it because after all, that's what the republicans asked, is for a postponement. but this is the most predictable crisis in a long time. >> crisis is right. now we're looking at an administration that either doesn't know what they're actually selling to the american people by mandate, or they know all the problems coming with it and they're still selling it to the american. so both of those seem awful and clearly that's why they're stonecalling. >> whose program is it? nancy pelosi? i can't find her. the president? he thought it was running fine.

kathleen sebelius? you can't get her to testify! it's been chronicled and paul ryan has asked her to testify. the latest request list, can you tell white house is doing this technology surge? can you come to capitol hill and tell us the order of operations who answers to who? they just don't show up. >> for the first time they'll be talking about the glitches since october 1 is going to be thursday or tomorrow, apparently. and then they have -- you mentioned jeffrey zang, he was in 2009 supposed to set up the effort to streamline government cost cutting. he's now going to be helping get obamacare and the web site and hhs back on track. how did he do with the budget handling? not well. but now he's going to be the one holding the reins on health care. >> frees bain and company in boston of the the guy that is going to rescue obamacare, worked for mitt romney's company. there is that delicious irony there. but "cashin' in," the affordable

care act, they're part of our new entitlement nation and it just seems like it's getting bigger and bigger, taking from the haves, giving to the have notes. there is a story this morning that's going to disturb you. there are a lot of people in this country who go to sleep hungry. and the government does help them with food stamps and the snap cards and whatnot to buy stuff. given the fact we're close to 50 million americans on food stamps with one in seven on them in this country, it's not surprising that there is fraud and the fraud could be vast. for instance, if you look at craigslist, if you look at ebay, people are selling their snap cards at a huge discount because they want cash. >> how unbelievable is it? for example f a guy in philadelphia, if you need this food, this is not a gimmick or game. please let me know. i have food stamps for sale. seriously.

trenton, i am selling food stamps for $60 cash. >> that's a $100 ebt card that they're selling for $60. you got to figure one of two things. either the person really does need it, but they're hooked on drugs or something like that, so they're going to sell their food card to buy drugs, or they've gotten food stamps and snap cards even though they don't need it. and that's the problem. we want to give it to people who need it. but if you get and you don't need it, that's just not good. >> just by shear numbers alone, certainly we don't want americans hungry. we don't want hunger. this was an effort to not have that happen. but the more people that are on the program with food stamps, the more potential there is for something like this to happen. so we're probably going to be seeing increased numbers. >> it would grab if -- and i'm sure there are people on one side of the aisle who would say that's onerus -- if you're an owner of food stamps, why don't

you go back every three months and say i still need it? there are a number of republicans who would like to see that. but there there are others who e it. >> here is heather nauert with news. >> a white house national security official fired after he confessed that he's the guy behind an anonymous twitter account that had been bashing the obama administration for more than 2 1/2 years. josey yosef is his name and he's accused of secretly tweeting nasty comments about u.s. foreign policy. his targets included the secretary of state, john kerry, and white house senior advisor valerie jarrett and also sarah palin. that account has been since deactivated. a math teach who are saved lives during a school shooting in nevada. he had survived two tours of duty in afghanistan and he was at the school when he spotted a 12-year-old student with a gun.

landsberry tried to get the student to hand over the gun burks the boy shot and killed him. >> he was just a good-hearted person. he'd do anything for anybody. it's surreal. i can't fathom what happened. cherish every chance you get because you don't know when the last moment will be. >> police believe that that gun came from the boy's home. authorities are now looking at whether or not his parents can be charged in that shooting. the city of bell, california, remember that one? it's back in the news today. that's because this woman, a former assistant city manager, she goes on trial. she's accused of setting insanely high salaries for city employees and then trying to hide it. she was making $375,000 each year before she was indicted. and then her boss, that was disgraced ex-city manager, he made a deal to testify against other defendants in the case. listen to this, he paid himself

a million and a half dollars each year to manage the 35,000 person town. wow. now let's take a live look at st. james palace in london. that is where in just about three hours from now, the royal christening of prince george will take place. earlier this morning, william and kate revealed their son's seven godparents. who is on the list? zara phillips, a member of the royal family. the others are close friends and that is a real break from royal tradition. they usually name royals to this. but this will be the first time more than 100 years that four generations of royals will be photographed together. >> interesting trivia. >> not since 1899. >> that family has good genes. >> yeah. >> thank you very much. coming up, a bombshell investigation revealing politicians are using our money as their personal slush funds. get this, it's perfectly legal. the man exposing these loopholes here next. >> and then he forgot to book the venue for his wedding.

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you think you know how washington really works? a bombshell investigation reveals the shocking ways politicians are using your money to buy votes and it's all legal. joining us repeat now to explain is the president of the government accountability institute and author of this book called "extortion, how politicians extract your money, buy votes and line their own pockets." peter, they're playing within the rules, but it's outrageous, don't you think? >> typical to the rules of washington, d.c., brian, which

is what would be illegal for us to do, i mean, if you did th you would be in trouble for fraud. but they can do it because they get to write the rules. a complete double standard and it's rampant in washington. >> what are examples of some politicians that make the most for their personal benefit? congressman john conyers. >> congressman conyers has the leadership pac. his particular case, leadership pacs are designed to give money to fellow members of your party to win reelection. the problem is john conniers in the last election cycle spent more money on personal limousine service. >> 1500 bucks. >> than to give to other candidates. he spent about that same amount on one visit to a brewery that he decided to go to an event. it's a lifestyle subsidy that takes place. >> congresswoman grace napolitano, she's democrat out of california. she loaned her campaign some money and charged 18% interest.

>> remarkable. she runs for office in 1998, loans her campaign about $100,000, charges her own campaign 18% interest, doesn't pay the loan off for more than 20 years. so she literally pockets hundreds of thousands of dollars cash in her pocket. again, completely and totally legal. >> her explanation on "60 minutes" was i have the same car and house. that makes me feel better. crenshaw out of florida, his leadership is to reelect republicans. >> this committee dropped a huge amount of money for him to take a tour with some lobbyists from the defense industry through wine country in napa valley, california. not with the leadership pac is supposed to do. but again, diverted for personal use, but something that is completely legal and ethical, at least by their standards. >> finally, the milker bill. what's that? >> this is a term that people don't really know or haven't heard of before.

a milker bill, has nothing to do with the dairy industry. it's all about milking donations and lobbying gigs for friends and family. so they literally introduce bills, i highlight lots in the book, that are not designed to pass laws, they're designed to scare the daylights out of certain companies so they will feel compelled to give money. like protection money, like the mafia. >> is one of your goals in writing this book to stop it? >> yes. we literally have legislative solutions in the back. there are people on capitol hill since "60 minutes" ran that story that are looking at congress at introducing legislation and hopefully with enough outside pressure it will pass. >> the money 150 to $170,000 is not enough for you, don't run for office. stop it. it's got to stop. >> it's called public service. >> i thought it was. thanks so much. good luck with your book. >> thank you. >> straight ahead, if you think prostate cancer only affects older men, you are wrong. best selling author vince flint died this year at the age of 44. he was a guest here, too.

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news by the numbers. 90 million. that's how many americans are not working or looking for a job over the last few weeks. it sets a new record. next, one, as in one in five. that's how many dollars were paid out to people who did not deserve them under the earned income tax credit. that's one of the nation's largest antipoverty programs.

and finally, two weeks. that's how much longer you'll have to file your taxes next year. don't get too excited. your refund will be delayed two weeks as well. it's all because of the 16-day partial government shutdown. steve? prostate cancer, the most common cancer among men and the second deadliest. this year alone, there have been more than 238,000 new cases and nearly 30,000 deaths. that statistic includes best selling novelist vince flynn who was only 44 years old when he died. prostate cancer is not just an old man's disease, so what do we all need to know? from the department of urology, the doctor joins us live. i know vince flynn was actually one of your patients before he died, wasn't he? >> yes, that's correct. >> and he came to you, he had already been diagnosed. what were his symptoms?

>> vince's symptoms were very severe problems with urination, including pain when he was urinating, as well as pain within the bones of his pelvis, which he had attributed to just normal activity. >> sure, because when you're 44 years old or if you're in your 30s or 50s, you have pain, you just figure, well, maybe i worked out a little too much. and, in fact, that perhaps is what was going on with him. this backs up the suggestion that prostate cancer is not just an old man's disease. i read a story about a 37-year-old guy in houston and his doctor accidentally ordered a psa test and it came back that he had prostate cancer. that doctor was unable to help him save his life. but this is not just something that impacts men in their 60s and 70s and 80s, is it? >> absolutely. one of the main reasons that i wanted to do this little show

with you is that i think that the lay public, as well as many physicians alike, operate under the misperception that prostate cancer is an old man's disease and that, in fact, it is not something that one dies of, but rather you simply die with prostate cancer. these two things are absolutely false. young men do get the disease and they have to be very cognizant of the fact that they, in fact, are susceptible to prostate cancer. that's where i think awareness is so important in order to seek timely medical care. >> right. for the guys looking in right now, what should we be looking for, symptom wise? >> in terms of symptoms, if you're a young guy and having chronic problems with urination that's worsening or if you are having just generalized areas of discomfort in your pelvis or in your low back, you should not blow it off and say that's due

to raking leaves or taking out the garbage or playing football. these, in fact, can be the earliest signs of very severe prostate cancer. >> sure. and the good news is over the last number of years, some real advancements have been made in treatment. so if you are diagnosed, there are things you can do. >> absolutely. so the other thing is that people tend to think that you can't die of the prostate cancer. that's untrue. there has been a flurry of new agents that have been introduced in order to optimize treatment of prostate cancer. it's no longer a pessimistic doomsday scenario. if you have prostate cancer, it can be extremely effectively treated, provided that you seek timely medical care and especially by people who are expert in providing that care. >> sure. and if you have a family history of cancer, make sure that you do have your doctor check things out. even younger than we thought

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let's hear what's going on in washington. they're still having a loft trouble with obamacare. first, the web site is all screwed up. that's got a bunch of glitches. now people are getting a busy signal when they try to apply over the phone for obamacare. so you can't use the internet and you can't use the phone. and now fax machines are saying, look who is crawling back. >> and there are in this country, there are 10.5 million latinos who do not have health insurance and the spanish language affordable care act site does not work. >> that doesn't work either?

>> hasn't worked from the beginning. the list goes on and on and on. >> the spanish language, and medicaid, you can't sign up for medicaid electronically. that was supposed to be the extension. >> we'll try notes in a bottle. in the meantime, we'll go over to heather nauert. >> let's bring back the carbon copy. >> remember that stuff? >> yeah. always worked. take a look at this. moments ago, the new jetblue plane which was built to honor the fdny, flew 2,000 feet in the air over manhattan. the words displayed on the bright red aircraft, look at that right there. jetblue making sure not to make the same mistake as air force one. remember a few years ago when it flew over new york city and it was accompanied by f-16s just for a photo op? the administration forgot to tell anyone that was happening and it terrified thousands of new new yorkers. serious story forbe pet owners, nearly 600 dogs have

died and 3600 more sickened after eating jerky treats that were made in china. f.d.a. officials say that they still don't know the source of the problem, but several products are now being recalled anyway. they include nestle purina and others. folks are being urged to contact f.d.a. if their dog is sick. a florida woman goes to the extreme to try to feed her family. walking out of a miami-dade grocery store with $300 worth unpaid food. she was stopped by a police officer, but instead of arresting her, that officer did something surprising. listen to this. >> she came out and asked, do you even have food at the house? and i looked at her, her face and i told her no. i don't. >> i made the decision to buy her some groceries because arresting her wasn't going to solve the problem with her children being hungry. >> she's still facing a

misdemeanor charge. she was also given information about local food banks and other sources to help feed her family. a man set to get married, but he forgot to reserve a spot at saint george's hall in liverpool. so instead of fessing up to his bride an friends, he called in a bomb threat to that venue. it was the day of the wedding that he did this. he was arrested and then sentenced to 12 months in jail. apparently he's still together with his fiance. that's interesting. those are your headlines. got to give him points for being creative and dumb at the same time? >> and unconditional love points for her. >> she loves him! >> phone not guilty a bomb threat. >> look what he did for me! >> he probably needs a good things to do list. >> there is maria molina outside where they are starting to put up the christmas lights. >> i am so excited for the christmas lights. >> can't wait to shop. >> by the way, today is wednesday. that means it is science trivia

day. i'm actually very excited about today's question. i love this concept. the question is today about how long does it take sunlight to reach the earth? and the answer choices are a, 8 hours, b, eight minutes. c, eight seconds or d, an instant? about how long does it take sunlight to reach the earth? what do you think? >> not long. >> a, eight hours, b, eight minutes. c, eight seconds. or d, an instant. >> an instant. >> eight minutes. >> what pie rex cup do you use for that? >> i'm trying to give you a hint that was not the answer. it's not d. >> what is the answer? >> what's your choice? >> eight seconds. >> 8 seconds. >> okay. so your choice was -- wait. b or c?

>> i'm going with eight minutes. >> steve, you're right! >> about 8.2 minutes. so that's how long it takes sunlight to reach the earth. isn't that kind of weird to think about? >> that it's not instant. so it travels at the speed of light. you think about that and get your eight minutes. >> hypothetically, the sun were to go away or die, that means it would take us about eight minutes to realize it. is that kind of weird? >> yeah. we have eight minutes to run for our lives. >> i think i'm going to have eight seconds left for my weather hit. let's get to the weather conditions across the country. we do have a number of frost advisories across parts of the northeast, midwest and also down into parts of georgia and the carolinas. very widespread area that is dealing with chilly conditions. we do have a little bit of snow as well across parts of the great lakes. not really much accumulation,

but they'll be seeing rain showers. we're expecting rain in new york city during the lunch hour. high temperatures, 54 in new york city. the 40s across parts of the great lakes. today is game one of the world series in boston. temperatures going to be quite chilly. 49 degrees. we could still be dealing with a little bit of that rain. but it will be tapering off. now let's head over to brian with more on sports. >> actually let's call it audible and go to sandra lee. halloween right around the corner. it's a perfect time to learn how to make some spooky treats for friends and family. >> you are right about that. here to show us how it sandra lee. >> thank you. i'm giving you the party that you can throw for your kids. >> okay. >> one of the sandra lee magazines. >> i love this. >> i was going to bring martha stewart. >> making things with food. >> this is awesome. this is easy stuff that you can do that's absolutely delicious. do you have gluten issues?

>> yes. many issues, gluten being one. >> the other one i'm going to fix. so here is a beautiful cake. easy to make. it is your favorite cake mix, easy. replace the water with some coconut water. just add a little flavor. then to make the icing, same thing here. i just added black dye to it. but the icing instructions are just the cream cheese, one, fuss philadelphia. don't use -- >> the cheap one. >> then you're going to need two cups of powdered sugar, marshmallow extract and a half cup of butter. whip that up and then you have -- do you know how to pipe icing? >> yep. >> of course you do. >> i can pipe. >> there is your cupcake. your cupcake is iced. you're going to put edible glitter on it to doll it up. you're actually good. now, you're going to do the next thing. the next thing is these are your peeps. they're easy. they come in small size if you don't want something to big. this is just some --

>> what is that? hair spray? >> it's pam. let's fry them. >> no, it's not. actually you can use pam. but what this is, you're going to do edible glitter. just dust him. kind of a darker side of a peep. this is the naughty sibling of the peep. >> my kids will have a blast doing this. >> what that is is just some sugar water. equal parts of sugar and water boiled down. simple syrup. >> let's get the kids hyped up on sugar. >> okay. so what i've done here is i didn't cover. i just made a circle around the cake with the peeps and then on top, you got your ghost on the cupcakes in the gift bags here, little favors. inex opinionsive is what i love. >> it is. just bag them up with a couple candies. >> by the way, there is pumpkins. if you don't want to do ghosts, you can do the orange for pumpkin. >> who doesn't want to do ghost

ghosts? >> so here is the deal, that is tequila, i used don julio. that is black berry juice. then there is a little lime juice, some orange liquer and black food coloring. >> what is this? what's up front here? >> that looks like roast beef sandwich. >> that is awesome. those are short rib sandwiches made in a slow cooker on cheese biscuits. >> ooo. that sounds good. >> there is a company out there, bisquick. it rivals the one. what is that place -- red lobster has those cheese biscuits. i'm just saying. make those at home, put in some cheese of your own, bake them off. slow cooker is carrots, celery, beef stock, short ribs, garlic and thyme. five to seven hours high. come home from work, done.

>> are all the recipes in here? >> all of them. >> i'm making that. >> thank you. >> delicious. >> sandra, thanks so much. >> we don't have to buy lunch now. >> i think we do, steve. the crew is getting this. >> thank you. >> straight ahead, after more than a decade, silver is no longer the world's favorite car color. can you guess what it is? i think magenta. >> then, has your family dinner ever been ruined by this? >> i can't talk right now. why don't you give me your home number and i'll call you later. >> well sorry. we're not allowed to do that. >> i guess you don't want people calling you at home. >> no. >> well, now you know how i feel. >> remember when everybody wore those big poofy shirts like that? how to stop those pesky telemarketers once and for all? "fox & friends" rolls on live from new york city. crew, come on in. ♪

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now that we've had dessert, let's have headlines. there is a new favorite in town. for more than a decade, silver has held the title of being the world's most popular color of car. not any^. >> no the favorite color is a white car. you know who loves those? car washes. forget the rocket. now you can take a balloon to space. a company based in tucson plans to use a helium balloon to send people nearly 100,000 feet into the air while inside that pressurized capsule. the cost? $75,000. all right. elisabeth? >> thanks, steve. don't you just love sitting down to dinner and getting calls like

this? >> would you be interested in finding out how to get extra cash or capital for your business? >> you want to improve your credit score and get out of debt? >> you are qualified to receive $100 gasoline gas card. >> you are still eligible to reactivate warranty coverage. this is the final call before we close the file. >> the ftc now cracking down on those annoying telemarketers. but if they do get through, what can do you to fight back? fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr. joins us. >> good morning. hi. how are you? >> so there are the new regulations that are supposed -- >> october 16th. >> what are they? supposed to be huge and businesses are afraid of them. it's not enough to say that you had an established relationship with someone by getting their phone number and say, i called because of that. under the law now, you need prior written consent from the phone holder to call their house and call their cell phone. so we have some tips to help people respond to these calls that they do not want.

first thing to do is, register for the national do not call list. 888-382-1222. that will stop it, hopefully. although sometimes it doesn't. >> right. i feel like you still get them. >> when you get that call and they say, hello, hello. say that, a person or robot? say, put me on your internal do not call list. >> so you have to say -- i always say put me on your do not call list or another word comes out instead of internal. >> yes. it's an accidental word. but the problem is, it's tough for the robot to understand that. so you say, put me on your internal do not call list. maybe do it in robot language and they'll respond to you at that point. the third thing you can actually do is file a complaint with the federal trade commission, or actually sue these folks. >> that's involved, isn't it in. >> very involved and maybe you get $500, $700, $1,000, very rarely sued. maybe the most effective thing to do is use some of these

anti-telemarketing apps that are on the market. they will actually stop these calls. they will also, some of them, send complaints directly in real time to the ftc about these calls. and so they'll be able to pick up the number that you're actually getting and stop these calls. >> i've been hearing about privacy star and is it no more -- >> no more robo. they're both free apps. go on-line and you get them. and they're pretty effective. >> okay good. i've heard privacy star is helping people. >> businesses are afraid. they should be. fines, new regulations, and better rights for americans. but you have to be vigilant. >> i'll be sure to say internal. >> internal. put me on your internal call list. no more robo calls! >> thanks. next up on the rundown, we love our pets. but would you skip out on a vacation because you don't want to leave him behind? is that normal or nuts?

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>> all those voices in our head when is normal or nuts? it's a question we ask ourselves every once in a while. >> it's question dr. keith ablow answers every week for us and he joins us now. good morning, doctor. >> good morning. time for your checkup. >> yes, it is. we're on the couch. >> we have our first e-mail coming in here.

it says, my husband and i took a job opportunity at a nearby state shortly after our baby was born. 15 years later, my parents still hold a grudge that we don't live closer. recently we cut a five-day trip short due to work and they still won't talk to us. normal or nuts? >> talk about a pitch over the plate. they're crazy! these parents -- your parents want to own something, so tell them to get a puppy. this doesn't work for humans. and so while it's always important to honor your parents and to interact with them, i'd say be very cautious because they're not trying to empower you. they're trying to disempower you and they need to talk to me before they talk to you. >> all right. you're not the boss of me after i'm 30. all right. next one, my son's fourth grade football team is having an awesome year and they had this weekend off. my wife thinks i'm nuts for wanting to take this opportunity to scout the opposing teams

playing this weekend so i can pass on their weaknesses to our son. >> lunatic! he's crazy! you want to scout your son's opposing fourth grade team? who is playing the game? you or him? why would you want your son to think that fourth grade sports is a life or death matter? this is your issue. get some help. i'm here every week. just keep listening. we may be able to help you. >> okay. we might have to be careful of this next one. dogs are everywhere. i'm a single female with four dogs. my dogs are like children. i've never had. i love them so much that leaving them causes me major anxiety. i love taking trips, but tend not to simply because i don't want to leave them. what do you think about that? relatable, normal or nuts? >> i love dogs, too. i'm not going to call her crazy. listen, shear the thing, you love these dogs. that's normal. now, since you have so much love to give, i'm not going to call you crazy. all i would say i'm encouraging

you to find out, is there some reason you can't bestow this love on a traditional family? are you sure you want to be alone with the dogs? is there a reason that you've stopped short of interacting with other people in this loving manner? you have a lot of love to give. should you be giving it in other directions? >> all good advice. canine craziness as the banner says. dr. keith joins us once a week. if you would like to e-mail him, go to www.foxandfriends.com, you'll find a way to connect. thank you very much. >> i hope my beagle was watching. see you next week. >> we'll see you. >> if you left that channel on, he might have. >> that's right. >> dogs love fox. meanwhile, you see him every night on "special report," but there is a lot about charles krauthammer you have never heard before. he's here to share his amazing life story. he's got a brand-new book you'll want to buy. >> it's fantastic. last week we told you that brian was a favorite child. but who is the smartest? the middle child, the oldest or youngest? that science is in, next hour.

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>> we already explained the science behind every mother's favorite child. now they're figuring out a way to identify every mom's smartest child. i got bad news. i lose. that's my mom. those are my brothers. we'll find out which one is smiling in a short time because "fox & friends'" final hour starts right now. >> hey, america, this is famous dave and you're watching "fox & friends". >> dave's got an incredible success story, too. he's got a great, informative motivational book. he's here cooking today. >> is he? he's outside. he's still cooking. >> that's right. >> we cooked earlier. barbecue jalapenos. >> brian just missed the dr. keith ablow section because you were talking to dr. charles krauthammer. >> i got it on tivo. >> he's got this book called "things that matter." he'll be talking about that. something that matters to everybody in the country is the affordable care act, also known as obamacare. and you look at the web site, it

has been a catastrophe. you look at the phone number, you can't get anybody on the line. ed henry yesterday was trying so desperately to get jay carney to answer simple questions, simple reporter questions, who, what, when, where, why, tellious this isn't working. every time jay carney passed the buck. don't ask us. ask the department of human services. well, eventually another reporter came out and said hey, you should be answering ed henry's question because they're good questions. listen to this. >> you're referring us to hhs for information. is it your expectation that they will answer those questions from us? >> the web site that is of considerable focus, understandably, is run by hhs. and cms. they have a team in place that's working on it. they have brought in individuals that that's part of this tech surge to help them deal with the problems on the web site.

so they are the people best situated to answer your questions that you have. i would refer you to them about what questions they can answer -- >> take ed's question, which seems like basic right to know information, how much is this costing? taxpayers money. as a long-time washington reporter before you took this job, obviously that would likely be something that you felt was a right to know. will we get that information from hhs? >> i would address your question to hhs. i don't have that information. and this is an operation being run by hhs. >> yeah, so ask them. >> address your question to hhs. we have jay stonewall carney not answering any questions. again, why wasn't there unprecedented openness that the president promised on his very first day in office? why isn't anything working? why doesn't the president know it's not working? no answers. >> kathleen sebelius sat down yesterday and essentially said the president was kept in the dark about the problems. then we find out through a source close to her that she -- even though she had the title,

she wasn't clued in to the software. she was more in explaining what the program would do. the software program said, i would incredible constraints because the administration didn't want everybody to know the price before they got all their personal information, so i couldn't design software like that. so the president is iced out, kathleen sebelius is iced out. no wonder this thing didn't work. the big picture, if all this stuff is going wrong and the delay is lieutenantly necessary, why, when this government was shut down, negotiations were going on, wouldn't the president be somewhat savvy and coy and say, listen, you want delay? i can deal with delay. it would have played to the president's strength, which is about to expose his major weakness. >> brian, you know what? that would mean that he would have to say essentially the republicans were right. we should delay this because it is not working out. >> it would have been the right thing to do. >> there is a big difference between the right thing to do and the political thing to do. >> i learned so much. >> this white house seems to be more interested in the political stuff. senator from new hampshire

became the first democrat to break with their party yesterday and call to extend the sign-up period. this is going so badly for the white house, i wouldn't be surprised if they tried to change the subject somehow. you look in the next couple of days, if they try to engineer something to put the affordable care act on the back burner because this thing that they got going right now, the headlines in every newspaper, and you just saw the white house yesterday where everybody is asking these questions that are simple questions, the white house won't answer about why it's not working. they want to change the subject. i bet they try in the next couple days. >> the associated press was allowed to sit in with the software engineers. they found a mind numbingly complex system put together by programmers who pushed out a final product that investigators said was tested by the government and not private developers with more expertise. they sat there drinking red bull 'til all hours of the night trying to stay up. >> the reason why some are actually looking into the fact that they didn't want anyone

outside of government to run these programs so that they couldn't be subpoenaed later on if it came under question. so are they just pretending to be in the dark? we don't know. but they'll get to new marketing. the super bowl champian ravens are now throwing their helmets in. they're going to get $130,000 to sell obamacare. so the nfl was actually approached by the president and the white house to be the marketers. go out and sell obamacare to everyone 'cause we know you're a machine when it comes to selling. across the board, the nfl said they didn't want to get involved and get political. now they're going team by team of the the ravens, they will let it in. >> governor o'malley who came forward and said do it. show us the money. >> rand paul has a great observation. if this thing is so great, why does it need to be sold so aggressively? watch. >> the thing about it is, if it's so good and it's free and it's going to be so easy to get on the web site, why do they

have to advertise to get to you do it? why are they going door to door trying to convince people that obamacare is so great? if it's supposedly free and cheaper and it's going to be the best thing since sliced bread, why do we have to convince people to go buy it? i think they're deathly afraid that young healthy people are going to look at this and say, this isn't any better than what i've got currently. and it may be more expensive than what i have currently. >> when it comes to what you have currently, 300,000 in the state of florida are going to lose -- got the notices this week that they're losing their health care because of the affordable care act. a guy was on the phone for 4 1/2 hours yesterday. could not sign on. a computer engineer in the state of iowa tried over 100 times. finally was able to sign on, but at the end he said, it was like an '80s web site. they need to take it down for over a week to try to figure out what's the matter because everything is wrong with it. >> right. here is the good news, if it ever fine will he gets up and rolling, politics is out of it. every family will be the

constituency. if your rates are up, if your doctor doesn't answer your call, you know who to blame. and if all those things in reverse, you know who to credit. >> true. >> if you're not getting what you were promised, you're going to be the ones knocking on the door of everybody else for that care. >> you know -- i saw they were able to find two people to make that commercial that said hey, it was a breeze signing up for the affordable care act. if you signed up for it and you got the insurance and it's a good thing, e-mail us and let us know. >> teleosts good story. >> we haven't heard any good stories. all we heard are the bad stories. new york state doesn't have any. if you were able to successfully sign on and you got it and saving money, e-mail us. or twitter us. >> our web site is work, which is great news. >> right. so is our instagram. >> so is heather nauert who has headlines. >> i'm trying to find good stories for us. happy stories. we'll start out with a little

political controversy that's taking place in washington. a white house national security official has now been fired after he confessed that he's the guy behind an anonymous twitter account that bashed the obama administration. josey joseph is his name and he's accused of secretly tweeting nasty comments about u.s. foreign policy for more than 2 1/2 years. his targets included secretary of state john kerry and senior white house advisor valerie jarrett. that twitter account has been taken down. a vigil was just held for the marine veteran turned math teacher who saved lives during a school shooting in nevada. mike landsberry survived two tours of duty in afghanistan. and he was at school when he spotted a 12-year-old student with a gun. landsberry tried to get him to hand over the weapon burks that boy shot and killed him. >> he was just a good-hearted person. he'd do anything for anybody. it's so surreal.

i just can't fathom what happened. cherish every chance you get because you don't know when the last one will be. >> that is for sure. police believe that that gun came from the boy's home. authorities are now looking at whether or not his parents can be charged in that case. we'll keep you posted on that case. remember this city of bell, california? it's back in the news again today and that is because this woman, the former assistant city manager, she goes on trial. she's accused of setting these insanely high salaries for city employees and then trying to hide it. she was making $375,000 each year before she was indicted. her boss is this guy, disgraced ex-city manager. he just made a deal to testify against other defendants in that case. he paid himself a million and a half dollars a year to manage the 35,000-person town. i'm going to dig up happy stuff.

>> looks like he ate most of it. siblings are known for their bitter rivalries. for example -- >> how good? >> i've been called the songbird of my generation. people who heard me. >> that good. >> that good? >> yeah. remember brothers? >> stepbrothers. >> you're right. according to a new study, older children are brought up in much stricter guidelines compared to the younger siblings and steve, you're the oldest, right? >> yep. >> that's because you got most of the attention for a while. that's my brother in the glasses. he happens to probably have the larger i.nk part of it is the oldest kid always has to lead the way for the other kids. so you have to figure out how to do stuff. plus you also do have, like you said, you have the discipline of there are more rules on you 'cause you're the first one. >> and you have more responsibility. like i expect my first born to teach the other two.

why don't you teach your brother how to tie his shoes? that's your job. >> the other thing is parents like the first kid more. by the third kid, they're like take a picture of your brother, we don't have any since he was four. notice the first one, you have a ton of pictures. the second and third, you got very little. you got a few sketches. >> memories. are you scarred? we're going to get into that later. coming up, you see him every night on "special report." but there is a lot about charles krauthammer that you've never heard before. he is here to share his amazing life story. >> and do you look forward to your tax return every year? well, don't get excited. how the government shutdown, the partial one, is screwing everything up for everybody. it's not going to be in the mail when it's supposed to be as we roll on live from new york city. ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman,

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who says there is no such thing as free lunch? some florida schools do, planning to give out free meals free of charge and sending taxpayers the bill. our guest is here to help explain what's going on. good morning, joy. >> good morning. >> thanks for being with us. i understand that this program was spread out to avoid a, the stigma that went along with applications and also the paperwork involved with those applying for the free lunch program. is that correct? >> right. so right now we're in the middle of a pilot program where soon next year all the kids in the country who are in specific schools that choose to do this, if they have 40% of the kids, and not even a majority who can already get free or reduced priced federal lunch, they can enroll all the kids, even those who can afford it. >> there would be some out there that say, what's the problem? kids having lunch, that sounds

fine to me. >> i'm all in favor of kids having lunch. i hope that all kids have nutrition. but the problem we have, poor children right now is obesity and not the fact that they're not getting enough calories. so the federal school lunch program, the reason that it exists is actually a collusion between big government and agri business and it raises food prices for the poor and middle class and makes kids fat and has the effect of making families, depriving them of their ability and privilege and joy of providing for their own children. >> so you're saying that the parents that can provide lunch no longer have to, but because the agriculture, those in agriculture are providing it, they've got to do something to make up for the loss in funds? >> oh, no. the reason that federal government is involved with school lunch at all is because basically it's a handover to big agribusiness.

basically they get really great access to deciding what kids will eat in schools, which, of course, favors their bottom line, rather than really caring about the nutrition that kids are getting, that meets their individual needs. >> programs like this continue. what are we looking at down the line in terms of just funding? >> right. so this year there are 11 states that are doing this and next year it will be all the states. so this year the extra cost for that program is about $16 million. right now the federal school lunch program is at an all-time spending high of $11.6 billion per year. what essentially this program is doing, giving the fiscal state of our country is maxing out our kids' credit cards in order to give them more calories that they probably don't need and reduce their family's input into the kind of meals that they're having. >> it's certainly interesting perspective. joy, thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> coming up, did the state

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quick headlines. four people facing charges now for this brawl between a jets fan and patriot fan. the woman who got slugged, one of the four slapped with an assault charge.

remember, she charged him. she's listed as the aggressor. drivers frantically calling the cops because of this. a man dangling from a hot air balloon over colorado. it turns out he was all a load of hot air. the man was filming a video to promote a product. he was doing pullups on that bar while hanging in midair. >> that's extreme. >> you think? >> with halloween coming up, families are getting ready to carve their pumpkins. anna kooiman hit the blaze. >> i did. it's called the great jack lantern blaze. it's not just faces that they're putting on pumpkins, but spiders, zombies and a whole lot more. it has over 5,000 jack-o-lanterns on display. >> it started in 2005. there were 18,000 people who

came. here we are in 2013 and we're expecting over 100,000 over 25 nights. >> the mix of real pumpkins and styrofoam ones are ornately designed. >> i really like it. the pumpkins are so cool. >> what has been your favorite pumpkin so far? >> all of them really. they're really nice. >> we're in the tunnel of pumpkin love. this isn't just great for families, it's great for couples on date nights, too. >> first of all, choose a nice firm, hard, pumpkin. >> anybody in there? >> then using a saw or serrated knife, cut a big hole in the bottom. i like to keep the whole pumpkin shape nice and pretty. just like me. take this, it's a dish drainer, the thing you put in the drain. this is what we're going to use

to scoop out all the seeds. >> probably not a good idea to be wearing jewelry doing this. we'll leave that right there. now i'm back in business. >> in a given week, we're carving over 1,000. we're doing this -- you and i are doing times 1,000. >> once it's gutted, it's carving time. you want some? attach your pattern and transfer the outline onto the pumpkin with a push pin. made it all the way around. >> what i like to do is take the marker, kind of do a connect the dots thing. >> how is that? >> itsy bitsy spider. >> time to carve. >> did i get you? >> no. >> the best thing to do when you've got these piece is push from the inside out? >> yep. >> wooo! i'll get you, my pretty!

here we are at the gigantic spider web, 24 feet by 24 feet. seems like the perfect place for my creation. and there you go. what is that? >> spider web. >> a spider web! you're right! >> becomes a halloween tradition for families. people come year after year 'cause they want to see what we're doing. >> every year they have new things, that big sea serpent, that was new this year, as well as the dinosaurs. >> how much is it to go? >> i think it's about 20 bucks. >> free for kids under three, i think. >> wow. change some i.d.s. >> there you go. >> growing to 100,000 people this year. that's huge. >> we'll see your pumpkin if we go. >> yeah. >> if you see a middle age couple make out, walk the other way. >> look out for the tunnel of pumpkin love. >> they're still in there. >> that's where we'll start. thank you very much. that's great. coming up, millions of people tune in every night for his expert analysis on our program "special report." but if you thought charles krauthammer's political stories

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recent pop culture event that really got the kids talking can someone bring me a sledge hammer? >> yeah, it's time for your shot of the morning. betty white spoofing miley cyrus in her latest promo of her show. look at the of two them next to each other. >> oh, yeah. >> very similar, except miley is in next to nothing. betty is very classily dressed in a white suit. >> at no point in that video does betty white twerk anything. >> no, no twerking. >> okay. >> not that i know of. >> good to know. >> that will be good if we could lose that word. >> from twerking to working, heather nauert is working the headlines now. >> what? wasn't just twerking. just working this morning.

good morning hope you're off to a great day. we have some headlines. a brand if you report this morning from the daily caller suggesting that hillary clinton's state department leaked confidential national security secrets to "new york times" reporter. those leaks were allegedly in exchange for writings that made the department and the administration look a whole lot tougher in foreign affairs. this is "new york times" reporter washington correspondent david sanger and it's believed he may have used those secrets in his recent book. we'll keep you posted on that. in the meantime, nearly 600 dogs have died and 3600 more have been sickened after eating jerky treats made in china. this has been going on since 2007. the f.d.a. says it still doesn't know the source of the problem just yet. in january, several products were recalled because dogs were getting sick. they include these, among others. nestle purina wagon treats and others.

people are urged to contact the f.d.a. if their dog gets sick. it happened to a whole lot of parents. kids throwing a party while you're out. >> it's cool. don't do it. you're way too bad. >> shut up. >> a couple in connecticut called the cops on their two teenage daughters. police arrested them for having booze at their home. earlier in the show, we asked what you would do. kelly says good for the parents. kids are so shielded from consequences these days. and that's a shame. i get so tired of the my darling wouldn't do that. and michelle says, you can discipline your children without calling the cops on them. i would not do the same. paul says, we did it. the kids knew they were in trouble for underage drinking. the police said our punishment would be more impactful than anything they could do. never happened again. you don't have to act like miley cyrus to get attention. selena gomez says she thinks the sexiest thing you can do is have

class. >> if you don't say every day -- or if i did this i would be accepted. let me tell you one thing, the sexiest thing, i think, actually i know, is class. >> it's nice, she got some cheers. she made those comments during a concert in philadelphia. now over to steve. >> thank you very much. dr. charles krauthammer is a pulitzer prize winning writer, syndicated columnist, a political commentator and physician. he's seen it all and he's done it all when it comes to american politics. his new book is called "things that matter." it's a collection of his writings on life, government, his personal passions, you know, things that matter. joining us right now for this first time live on the "fox & friends" set is dr. charles krauthammer. good morning to you. >> happy to be here. >> great to have you. how do you get to be a nationally syndicated columnist? >> first you go to medical

school. i used to get asked that when i was in the new republic. how do i get to make it in the business? of course, i have a pretty unusual path. i have no advice to give 'cause i went the wrong way. i actually was a doctor for a while. and then i decided, my late 20s, this is not exactly what i was cut out to be. >> wait a minute. you just said you were with the new republic that. is a publication that leans to the left, sometimes the way left. and in fact, until the '80s, you had been a life long democrat. >> that is true. it's a true confessions. i'll make it right here. i'm also asked -- i was a speech writer once for walter mondale and i get asked how do you go from there to fox news and the answer is simple. i was young once. obviously a long time ago. >> and you write in your book that people are entitle to do change their mind, but there ought to be an explanation. that's really what -- your book talks about how you were

political and your world view changed through the years. i love the chapter -- your first column is about your older brother, and it is a loving tribute to him. but that's not the story that you wanted to start with, is it? >> no. there is a column in there that is called "in defense of the f word." >> in defense of the f word? >> yes, i know. it's not exactly the mainstream kind of thing you would expect. it was provoked when dick cheney used the word pungently on the floor of the senate. he had been insulted by one of the senators. soy took it up -- so i took it up and what the column is a disposition on the two forms of the use of the word. the two worder and the three worder. i don't think how detailed i can get here. >> we get the idea. >> but i proposed to the publish that are it would be the first column in the book. >> are you crazy? >> yes. well, that's exactly what they said.

we're going to have you committed. it's in chapter 3. >> speaking of firey rhetoric, earlier we did a story about congressman from florida, allen grayson, where he's fundraising off an image that spells tea party with a flaming cross. i'm sure you saw it earlier. >> i did. when i write in the -- what i write in the introduction is even though i've gone from the mainstream liberalism to be a conservative over the years, the one thing that has all been the center of my political thinking, and it goes back to when i was 19 and editor of my college paper, is abhorrence of the extreme. in some sense, it's a sort of rejection of political romanticism. remember, i'm a child of the '60s. you talk about the romanticism of the '60s, people were in love with the left, with che, with cuba, all this craziness. from the very beginning, i had

had a sort of a disdain, disgust with that kind of politics. and even though i shifted from the 40-yard line to the 40-yard line in american politics, but it was the people who lived at the end zones, the extremes that always left and right and grayson is a classic example of that. i write about how i developed that sort of distaste for the politics of the extreme and that stayed with me. >> you talk in your book about how when you were in college and it was the -- they were way over there and you were more of a centrist in comparison at your school. but you were a democrat until about the mid '80s and it had to do with carter and the democrats and the nuclear freeze and a complete foreign policy retreat. >> yes. and the other aspect of that was this: remember, i have training as a doctor. i'm open to empirical evidence. and i was a great society liberal. i believed in the war on poverty

and all that. so in the '80s and into the '90s, the empirical statistical evidence of the effects of the war on poverty on the core began to come out -- poor began to come out. and it turned out not only was the money wasted, the money and the new programs had developed dependency and emiss rated the lives of those it was supposed to help. and that empirical evidence, it was very easy to then shift. say this does not work. how do you help the poor? how do you help the disadvantaged? how do you build a society where things matter can flourish? i've come to the conclusion that it's limited government, which is the conservative idea. so it wasn't that i woke up in the morning one day and i had an epiphany. we tried i think in goodwill. that was liberal idea. it turned out it didn't work. >> right. and earlier you mentioned you did work at the new republic. we've got an image from back in the day. here is flashback with

dr. charles krauthammer and there you are right in the middle of michael cinesly, right next to you. there you are right there. charles lane, who is on your panel at night, he's up in the upper left. >> right. rick hertzburg of the new york yorker. charles krauthammer in a sea of liberals. and i managed to swim to safety. ended up here on this shore actually. >> were you an odd ball there? could they kind of tell? because i know you tell one story in your book about how you wrote a column and the editor or publisher said congratulations. i've never had so many people cancel subscriptions! >> i was a kind of hero for that week. no, it was extremely collegial. we had interesting debates in the halls. sometimes we attacked each other, in print but with respect. i wrote a column, i believe i wrote the unsigned editorial in support of the contras and the war on nicaragua and kinsly,

editor in chief, wrote a rebuttal in the same issue. but it was an exciting, wonderful place. >> your book is a group of your columns you've written over the last 30 years. you still write the column every week for the "washington post" writers group. how do you decide what to write about? >> the lord provides. at the beginning i used to worry action how am i going to get a column this week? but it would turn out that by wednesday, which is when i write, somebody would do something exceedingly stupid and i had my subject. >> jackpot. >> yes. >> when people read your book, and i'm going to give this for a christmas gift because it's terrific -- what do you think the number one thing is people are going to read and say i didn't know that about him? >> about me, they may not have known about this checkered ideological history and they may not have known about the fact that i started out in a different universe, in medicine. the one thing i think i'd like

people to carry away, sort of the theme of the book is that even though i think politics is something i came to late and that i think it's not the most -- it's not the way of life, the enterprise with the most dignity, as we've seen over the last few weeks, it's the one on which everything else depends. if you get your politics wrong, all the things that matter, all the things of elegance and beauty can disappear. that's why i devoted my life to being involved in the political debate. >> millions of people watch you every night talking about it. they read your work. by the way, friday night, fox news reporting charles krauthammer, a life that matters will air at 10:00 o'clock eastern and sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. what's great about this, i got a sneak preview. there's a lot of video of you as a kid. your father had a camera and he took a million pictures. you had it transferred to video and then you had it put on disk. you put it in a box. you lost the box!

>> right. for ten years. and i found it three weeks ago. >> how perfect. just in time for the special. >> just in time. >> the book is fantastic. congratulations. >> thanks a lot. >> dr. charles krauthammer i that very much for making a studio call. >> pleasure. >> all right. excellent. 17 minutes before the top of the hour. do you look forward to your tax return every year? well, if you do, don't get excited. how the government slowdown will screw everything up this time. and if you thought you had seen the last of hollywood madam heidi flies, think again. what was she busted for this time? ♪ as your life changes, fidelity is there r your personal economy, helping you readjust along the way, refocus as careers change and kids head off to college, and revisit your investments

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we have some quick headlines for you now. the irs says you'll get two weeks longer to file your taxes because of the government shutdown.

that means you'll get your refunds two weeks later as well. heidi fleiss spending the night in jail, busted for dui in nevada. detectives found four ounce of pot and $10,000 cash in her car. over to you, brian. >> so shocked she got on the wrong track. what happened? no republicans allowed. the department of health and human services is holding a closed door meeting today on obamacare. they're only briefing democrats. peter doocy, are you surprised by this lack of bipartisanship? >> brian, within the next five minutes, hhs official is going to begin briefing house democrats about issues with health care.gov for the first time since the site went on-line and cracks in its structure began to show almost immediately. but republican lawmakers are wondering this morning why they are being left out of today's briefing. speaker boehner's spokesman says all members, as well as the american people, deserve answers for the debauchle. that's why we've asked the administration to provide the same briefing to house

republicans. this snub is all the more offensive after secretary sebelius declineed to testify thise is scheduled to testify on the hill next week. last night she told cnn the president didn't know healthcare.gov was sloppy a few days before the sloppy rollout. but lawmakers have many, many more questions for her and the white house has deflected many questions about the site to hhs. but it's promising to cooperate with congress. >> i'm just saying that we cooperate with legitimate congressional oversight. that's something you heard me say frequently. department of health and human services has engaged with congress numerous times and will continue to engage with congress numerous times on these and other issues. >> later on today, executives from several insurance companies will meet with officials at the white house, including valerie jarrett and the white house chief of staff, dennis

mcdonough. he is quoted in the "new york times" speaking about republican challenges to the affordable care act and secretary sebelius. he says, quote, the law is still standing and so is she. back to you. >> peter, that was excellent. thank you for that update. live from washington, d.c. >> all right, 11 minutes before the top of the hour. did you know deep frying your turkey is so last year? so what's in? famous dave himself is here to show you. >> that's right. first, we're going to check in with martha mccallum for what's coming up at the top of the hour. >> hi there. good morning to you. and coming up right here, two gop stars who want big action on capitol hill, rand paul says congress must also live under obamacare and marco rubio wants a vote on postponing the individual mandate. karl rove and tucker carlson here on those. a washington insider gets the boot for tweeting against the boss and others under a fake

name and a big day for the royal family. we'll see you right here at the top of the hour

all right. you know what? we're in mid october. we're headed for thanksgiving. it's never too early to start talking turkey. >> start rubbing your turkey, everyone. that's how to do it. famous dave is here. the key is rubbing it on, right? >> what we're doing is we've rubbed this turkey with some wonderful spices and flavorings. what i'm kind of encouraging everybody to do this thanksgiving is instead of putting it in an oven, that you should really take and smoke a turkey because a lot of people don't realize how incredible tasting smoked turkey tastes. >> it smells good out here now. you get the rub on the

hurricaney. how long does it smoke? >> four hours. it's a wonderful smoked turkey. >> did you just put this in two minutes ago? >> do you have by -- brickettes and then the wood chips in. >> that's why it's smoking. >> in addition to smoked turkey, what i'd like to encourage a lot of people to do is use fresh cranberries instead of taking that cranberry sauce out of a can. >> the congealed thing? >> yeah. >> actually make it from scratch. >> okay. >> so you do the fresh cranberry ies. >> a lot of people when they make cranberry sauce, they use a lot of sugar. what i'm advocating is use apple juice concentrate, so you just get an amazing cranberry sauce. >> sugar is not good for you. we're trying to get people healthy. >> not only that, we're using

apples. apple juice concentrate. >> that looks beautiful. >> you can make wonderful smoked turkey sandwiches. take some of that fresh cranberry sauce. >> man, does that look good. >> put that right on there. >> in new york city, you could sell that sandwich for 75 bucks. dave, let's go over to the other table and take a look what you have planned. >> how long was that in for? >> four hours. >> how do you know it's done? you don't need the therm during that pops when you cook it? >> about tower hours and it will be 180 degrees. just be the most juicy tasting turkey. if you don't want to put up with all that, you can go to famous dave's and we'll smoke the turkey for you. >> you will? okay. >> we'll get the smoke -- you will get the smoke smell on you. >> and do you the ham, too, right? >> we do smoked hams. anything tastier than a smoked ham done twice. >> i guess so. you would know. you did it. hey, stick around? >> we're sticking around. >> look what he did. look what an operation famous dave has over there.

this is food -- >> very nice. >> 200 locations across the state. >> 200 locations. we are smoking up a storm. >> no wonder you're famous. >> the turkey is fantastic. >> back in a moment to wrap things up here on the veranda. come one, come all. ♪

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we're standing downwind. >> our spouses are going to think we were at a campout. >> famous dave, that's how to get his stuff. don't forget to go on-line. www.foxandfriends.com and get the recipes. dave, thanks so much. >> delicious. >> enjoyed being here. >> i think i'm going to smoke my

turkey. >> tune in tomorrow because somebody special will be on. so special they told us not to mention the name. >> it's a big secret. the captain from the love boat will be here, plus john mcenroe. have a great weekend. >> you just mentioned the name. looks like thanksgiving there. the face of the obama-care web site launch is speaking out. after weeks after the rollout of the obama-care web site and the enrollment thereof, it seems every morning there are so many different targets directly related to this thing. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to america's newsroom. where do we begin? martha: kathleen sebelius appeared to fall on her sword