be yours. it is not on shakedown street but within a ten minute walk to the beach. >> that's a steal, pick it up. >> i wish. >> that's it for us, america nows headquarters starts. the tech guys say it is not their fault. so who's logging on now. i bill hemmer. >> very interesting committee hearing. i am alisyn camerota. developers said the administration decideed to go livine though it was not ready. mike is on capitol hill. >> reporter: good afternoon, ally, federal contractors did not test the over all health care.gov until the last second and they told the client about their concerns. >> all of the risks that we saw

and concerns we had regarding testing were shared with cm a. >> what was their are sponse when you talked to them about what was going on. >> they were working on them. i don't know further. >> reporter: he tried to sign up for obama care like a typical person from the state of texas to see if it worked. >> did it work? >> i logged on to create an account and was able to do so, but i never received the confirmation e-mail. >> it didn't work. >> reporter: republicans seem concerned about the price tag of the web site and expressed privacy concerns with a huge amount of information out there. and a democrats from silicon valley are fired up and upset about the excuse that it is a problem of too much traffic. >> there are thousands of

websites that handle concurrent volumes far larger than what health care.gov was faced w. you speak about volume miss campbell. that sticks in my craw i have to tell you that. >> reporter: if it was only 2,000 users it was not a problem of traffic or vol oum. and the bottom line the contractors will be on the hot seat for another 30 minutes or so. >> we'll listen to more head lines. >> new fox poling, 31 percent think it is going okay. the majority 60 percent think that the immrementation is a joke. and democrats are calling for delay on the individual and wyoming senator is with me

now. he is also a drchlt what did you hear in the house today? >> the web site was not ready and test exclude couldn't handle volume and this administration which i think is incomp at any time in doing this still decided to push the launch button and wasted hundreds of millions of taxpayers money and i believe cathlone sebelius should resign. >> we'll get to sebelius in a moment. why do you think that they went forward on october 1st if they anyhow that information. >> for a full year they promised today be rad and tested and handle volume. and the president in new york with bill clinton, easier to use than ama one and cheaper than your cell phone bill and keep your doctor if you like your doctor. the american people have seen through the charade and know that the health care law is not working. bill, it is not the web site, it

is fundmental flaws with the health care law entirely in the terms of cost of care and sticker shock that people are meeting with. and then what is going to be the ow of pocket costs will go up. >> that's coming to page two, stick on the hearing today, one of the leading contractors said they were in touch with the administration the entire time and made them aware of the issues and you have a question of why do you go forward with it? kathleen sebelius is there in one woke. does she fill in the holes that are yet to be answered. >> i think she should resign tone now and then. she had to press are of a social engagement in boston to be able to show up and talk to the american people. this is supposed to be open and transparent administration in the history of the united states

and yet this administration doesn't want to level with the democrat member of the house and senate. they are clearly not telling the american people the situation. they will not tell anyone how many signed up and what the traffic is like and the numbers they are getting. >> enrollment numbers are difficult to diagram boichlt thank you, sir. what do you think at home? is the administration aware and if they were aware did they tell the truth to the american people. send me a tweet. >> i would love to hear you@a li list on alisyn. we have john from the atlanta nows room. alisyn good afternoon to you. cyber experts are talking about the step in the rabbit hole. look at the privacy policy.

it states that your private information will be shared with the irs, and social security administration and department of homeland security. now all of this is under the premice of verifying income and immigration status and puts a big government database in the center of your health care decisions. we found out by looking at source code, this is not visible unless you know what to click on. you have no reasonable expectation of privacy and furthermore to that that, the government can search, monitor or seize theidate a. david kennedy is the president of tufted sack. >> it is a salidation point the government will use that information for other purposes not only for the medical fold or health care benefits. >> here's what to keep in mind. they contracted a third party experian to identify your

identity. and one of their subsidies was scammed in selling social security numbers to a hacker in vietnam. there are changes made to the web site. you can browse with health care plans without giving personal information. when i tried to do the same thing on the obama care phone hot line, it was a different story. we'll play for you what they said and followed by the comment from center of democracy and policy. >> your name, date of birth and amount on the w2 form and social security number and a couple of phone numbers. >> to ask applicant for a social security number and sensitive information until they are ready it apply for a plan should not happen. >> not happening on the web site and shouldn't happen on the telephone hot line. 58 percent of the americans don't think that the government is doing a good job of protecting the privacy and

alisyn that plays in people's deepest zie zoi. >> i can't believe they didn't ask for measurements or sign. 42 regular and scorpio. >> and good to know. uncle sam wasted no time running up the credit card. and the conconvince was that spending binge does not stop, alisyn. plus, two americans kidnapped in a pirate attack. and indictment of the parents of jonbennett realms. and what does it contain and what does it say about john and patsy ramsey.

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is on the case. two americans taken hostage. the feds believe it is a ransom situation. that is common now. it went off the coast of any on nigerria. one week after the temporary of the debt ceiling. america's debt is at $17 trillion. and 28 billion was added to the federal debt. that was an overnight jump from 16.75 to 17.8 trillion of the debt because of new spending and backlog of debt accumulating.

get out your calculators. the u.s. added an average of 2 billion a day to the national day. matt will try to make sense of this. matt, these numbers are a stro nommical. but there is a misconception that with the government shutdown and federal government not at its optimum capacity we might save money but since the government reopened we have dropped 328 billion in one day. how did that happen? >> in the opener, alisyn. we back paid and paid the bills from the time the government was shut down. and the time the government is shut down. things are terrible and we are not spending money and people are out of work. the people furloughed got back pay and seems to me we are spending more than on average over the time we were shut down. it is like telling your kids,

you can't spend. and when they get the allowance it is gone. we are not getting enough of an allowance. >> if anybody thought it would shut down the rate of spending tdid the opposite. we are spending an average of $2.71 billion a day? >> that big of a number, but we are in the trillions and think about the next time we come across the situation, it would be the first phase of february. we'll look at 20 trillion that our debt is going to be at. what happens in february. the government might shut down again and then what? okay, let's kick it down for another six months. there is no end in sight. the government has not learned. we learned in the financial crisis. that when we are out of a job and not getting paid and

revenue, we have to stop spending and unfortunately, the government doesn't get that. >> it is funny, matt, people on both sides of the aisle yes, yes run away spending is bad. but the devil is in the details. when it comes to cutting the project, they can't seem to do. it ntheir job is to get reelected. and so if they say we'll cut our pet project and that is times by a thousand they are not getting reelected and no politician wants to cut their project. in my mind how does it end? the fact is eventually we will borrow money from china. we don't trust you and we'll charge you a higher interest rate. and then what happens? look at the u.s. dollar, it is trading at a two- year low versus foreign currentency. it is leading down a terrible

path. and the thing is we don't pay our bills? we end projects? i don't know what the answer is. >> it sounds like a vicious cycle. thank you for helping us with the mat today. >> quickly we went over 17 trillion. >> overnight. >> and reminder of keeping close eye on financial records. the man charged with stealing 225,000 from a player. the feds said he went in the car, and stole a player's account information and did it over a period of four years. eagle spokesman said the player was reimbursed by the insurance company and the suspected thief could get 30 years. on top of that eagles are 3 and 4. >> turn that beat around. >> and a major fireworks on the hill. law makers from both sides of the aisle grilling the lead

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serving republican in the house. thousands gath aring in florida attending the funeral for congressman bill young. many say he showed what it was to be a honest and thoughtful and caring american. he died at the age of kwoochlt he leaves behind a wife and six grown children and numerous grandchildren in largo, florida. one massachusetts community is in mourning after police discover the body of a beloved math teacher behin the school where she taught. and now a 14-year-old student is charged with her murder. what do we know about the case? >> reporter: we have shocking reports of how choline ritxer may have died. sources tell our fox affiliate that 14 year old philin chiowa solm admitted that he followed

her in the rest rom and punched her in the face and slashed her throat with a box cutter. he confessed that he put her body in the residewalkling bin and brought it to the woods. police found her body behind the school. they were reported missing. chiowa solm was spotted walking along a local highway. parents and community members came out to honor the popular teacher in a candlelight vigil. she was always upbeat and a good influence. >> it is really sad. she was really good and she didn't deserve this. >> reporter: while they mourn the death. the boston red sox held a moment of silence at fenway park. according to court documents. investigators arrested chiowa

solm after interviewing him and looking at video and shoes evidence of the crime. the district attorney is not releasing a cause of death. a not guilty blow was entered on behalf of chisolm in his arraignment. he will be tried as adult. one of two deadly incidents. students accused of killing teachers. on monday a 7th grader killed a teacher before killing himself. >> doctor, it feels this week it is dangerous to be a teacher in this country. are these two unfortunate incidents or a coincidence or is something happening with adolescents in the country? >> who ever thought being a teacher was a high- risk profession. but teenagers are not the same

as adults and we know that adults make bad decisions all of the time. teenagers don't have the same sense of maturity and responsibility that adults have and very often they will do things impulsively. we know the crime in dan verseems to be planned and given the brutality of it the student must have had a conneksz in his head to the teacher that caused him to be so brutal. >> what are you basing the idea it was planned on? >> just the fact i don't believe. he got it in his head and did it. i think there was an a xe to grinned on his part that made him go through this. >> what is confounding, this young man just moved to the area. he just moved from tennessee. and inside of the mind of a 14-year-old, in general what

is their mental capacity. you mentioned a comparison between a teenager and an adult, go a head. >> we be know for example the supreme court case found that kids don't have the same capacity or culpability when it comes to committing crimes and shouldn't have the same level of responsibility. but teenagers in general are more impulsive than adults and teenagers have more accidents because of inability to look at consequences of their actions. >> we don't know much information certainly not the one in nevada. but the one in dan vers, he moved from tennessee. he was considered a good athlete and didn't drink or do drugs. he was shy at first and then warmed up to people. it doesn't sound like mental illness was an issue.

what do you hear here? >> we don't hear any evidence of mental illness and he seems to have come from a good family. there must have been a secret we don't know about. i don't believe he just decided to do it. there had to be a build up occurring in his mind? >> doctor, thank you. >> i know you are looking at these issues all of your professional life and what a tragedy it was. and to hear the stories of this woman age 24. >> we need more information about the back story and wrooel bring that to you. >> so respected by many, too. >> the obama administration anyhow that the web site was not ready to go and ignored the warnings. how high did that go? >> a close ally not happen about the nsa spying.

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the system that had, we attested that had issues. and so yes, we did. >> that was the vice-president of one it company that helped to build the obama care web site. >> according to his testimony they told that the cite was not ready to go live and they ignored the warn ares. joining us is the gentlemen. i want to play for you the hottest moment of the hearing. roll. it >> hippa only applies when health information is provided. that is not in play here today. no health information is required in the application process and why is that? because preexisting conditions don't matter. so once again here we have my republican colleagues trying to scare everybody.

>> gentle. >> i will not yield to the monkey court. >> this is not. >> i am not yielding. >> chris, i want you to defend this. upwars of sex hundred million taxpayer dollars are spent on a web site that doesn't work. was this a monkey court? >> here is the reality. is it political, yes tis political. we saw that in the debt ceiling. >> the law makers are trying to figure out what the problem is here. republicans and democrats are both ticked off. >> in the end of the day. the american people and members of congress have a right to be angry and right to be very concerned about the mistakes that are made and who is responsible and what is done to fix it. they are all legitimate questions and issues. government fails, regardless of which party is in power, that is a critical function of congress to make sure things are done to

address. it that is a different as a political football. that's the different. >> tony. we heard from cgi spokes person that was a company that was paid millions of dollars. hhs was the quarterback on this. and don't hold us responsible. they were supposed to billed bld it and make it work. why are somebody not responsible? >> that's why the hearings are important today, alisyn. it is a continueiation of a firing squad against the health and you map services department that was essential and called the quarterback bite contractors, 55 managed by an agency in hhs. they had a.to talk to the president and make sure he anyhow about it and i believe from both sides, the only political aspect of this was the decision to continue to launch

the web site on october 1st knowing that there were flaws and did not work. >> why did they stick to the dead line. >> it is a point of pride. president obama didn't want to have an impression of yielding. republicans and democrats have been saying including john to wart and robert gibbes. if you are going to give the exemption to businesses, if you are going to make 20 other delays that the president has, you should do it for the individuals and now it is proven further that the web site doesn't work. >> chris, either the president knew the problems and moved forward or his staff didn't tell him about the problems. which one do you think it is >> it is clear from the reports that the president department know about it. it is fair to be critical if the president should have known about it. whether you are a republican or

democratic president you entrust those in your cabinet to have done things right. clearly it did not happen and there are big problems that need to be fixed. and i try to remind everyone and it is frustrating for me as for a lot of the american people. they sit there and go how is it possible that you can't get a web site fixed? it is early in the program. >> we can all agree it was not a monkey court today. these are your representatives trying to figure out where $600 million went for a product that didn't work. >> sorry, chris, if you want to talk about the cost. it was supposed to cost 94 million and ended up costing over 600 million and not working and people will be penalized if something is not done. and that's why there is a three

month extension. because he knows it is not work. >> everyone is right to be angry and critical of the mistakes. but the republicans here have an ulsterior motive and it is a waste. >> they are not interested in repairing obama care and making it better. they are trying to kill it. and unfortunately what is happened here we gave them fuel and let's all wait and see. >> it's not their fault. >> i am not saying that it is. >> we'll see next wednesday. thank you. >> and check it out. how would you like to get back sorry five minute was your lifeev day. there is an app for that and douglas kennedy with a brand new segment called check it out. nbill, google recently purchased the app for a billion dollars and that seems to be good news for people who want to avoid

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standing by is grechen carlsson. >> hi, guys, the guy who confessed to killing a man on a youtube video will join me live on the role story. he is behind bars for six and half years, is that enough time for killing a man, we'll ask him. >> and blame game on obama care. we'll get the real story on the health care web site. and this will get you steamed. the air force may change the honor code from saying so help me god. and geraldo is here. no doubt he is always real.

>> and there is a new twist to the sensational and unsolved killing haunting america for 17 years. a judge will release the grand jury indictment against john and patsy ramsey. the six year old beauty queen whose body was found blufrjioned and strangled on christmas morning and what remained a secret. the grand jury indicted it is ramsey in the daughter's death in 1999, but the then da declined to pursue a case against the couple. our next guest believes that there is something revealing in the indictment papers. he successfully sued to get it released. charlesy brennan is with us. >> charlie, why after all of these years you pressed so hard to see the indictment against the ramseys? >> the main reason i pursued it.

in a case that is plagued by mystery and misinformation and a left fogginess around so many central developments. this is one thing that after years of reporting work and developing sources, i was able to establish really did happen. and in october of 1999, the eight women and four men who made up the grand jury returned an indictment and charged john and patsy ramsey of child abuse and death. i nailed the story down and published on january of this year. >> what dow think you will learn when you see the indictment? >> we don't know what we will see. the judge indicated he will release 18 pages of grand jury

indictments. think pages that reflect the charges against the ramseys. and what we may or may not see. it is not a 9- 3 voter or 10-2 vote. what i don't expect we will see is the reasoning behind their vote or the or any of the highlighted evidence that might have driven their decision. >> that would be interesting. as you know, the da, the then da in the case decided not to prosecute them. he believes there was not enough evidence. >> the grand jurors had a different standard to meet than would be met at trial. they only had to find prabable cause. and that's all a cop needs to slap handcuffs on you on the street. the da would have had to prove it combrnd a reasonable doubt

and looked at grand jury findings it is well and good. i don't think i can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. >> charlie, you are a te nashes reporter. and thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> so did the judge get it right. john ramsey speaking through his attorneys does not think so. we'll bring in judge napolitano fox news senior and analyst. judge, what do you think? john ramsey did not want the indictment released because he thinks it will be a smear campaign he believes against him if that is all people are going to so and not the rest of the record? >> alisyn and bill. colorado has a unique statute. if the indictment was signed by a foreperson it is a official document of the state. and even if it was never

prosecuted or delivered to a judge or made public and the case is old and closed, the public has a right to. it and so the reporter you just interviewed actually filed the appropriate documents and cited the appropriate statute and the judge who himself has not seen the grand jury indictment made the appropriate decision under colorado law. this is a head scratcher. the grand jury is under the control of a prosecutor. remember there is no judge there or defense council or defendant. it is just the prosecutor and grand jurors and whatever the prosecutor wants to bring in. they only hear what the prosecutor wants them to hear and attack votes that the prosecutor wants them to take and how and why they could have voted to indict the ramsey without the prosecutor wanting it to happen? we don't know. >> very curious and very quickly judge, why wont they release the

whole grand jury record and so they can see everything they have. >> that is a $64,000 question. we know what is in the indictment an what is in the indictment. guess what. colorado law does not let him reveal what they looked at. it only lets him reveal what they signed and they signed the dime. >> thank you so much for being with us and explaining it all. studies find that they can lure kids into smoking. a loop hole has parents concerned. we ask should they be? >> and we thank the wright brothers for their ride. but now a new debate over who should get the credit.

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