one. also talking about the girly hats. i read them when i leave the set on my way home. always interesting. go to facebook.com/the kelly file to see the package on health care and the one the other thiegt. thanks for watching, everybody. i'm megyn kelly. b it's simple. it is a website where you can compare and purchase affordable health insurance plans side by side the same way you would shop for a plane ticket on kayak. the same way you shop for a tv on amazon. >> i'm not interested in just capping ream yums. i want to lower them. >> by as much as $2500 per family. it is time to bring down costs for the entire country. >> you don't have to do anything. >> you can keep your health care plan, period. >> if you have health insurance through your employer, you can keep it. >> if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. >> the plan i'm proposing costs

$9 million over ten years. it will reduce the deficit by $4 trillion over the long-term. >> welcome to "hannity." tonight because it impacts each and every one of you watching the program we are dedicating the hour to exposing the obama care lies. in every block of the show we'll break down the rhetoric versus reality and what the main stream media won't tell the american people about obama care. we have compiled a brilliant studio audience made of brilliant people, even lanny davis. you will meet a woman named erling davis, ap obama care telephone operator until she spoke with me on my radio program this week. she was fired simply for the telling the truth. the president told us to call. i called. the mission, we'll find her a new job and we'll give you details on that and the

interview ahead. and the latest regarding the disastrous obama care roll out. lawmakers held a house hearing to get answers about why the website has been nothing short of a website from day one. they question the contractors who helped build the site and got this stunning admission. >> you shared there were difficulties in the testing with them? >> all of the risks we saw and the concerns we had regarding testing were shared with cms. >> what was their response when you shared the pitfalls and what was going on? >> my understanding is they ubd and wor working on them. i don't know further. >> did they come back to you in terms of t short comings and what feeded to be done? any concerns raised by them? >> we never -- i never got a depiction from them. >> they knew it would fail and they didn't care. what's worse is president obama sh kathleen sebelius promised

this would not be the case which brings us to the first obama care lie. >> i want to be clear. we are ready to go on october 1. >> these marketplaces will be open for business on tuesday, no matter what. >> to get ready for marketplaces on october 1, visit the website, health care.gov. i have good news for you. it isn't your typical government website. we have made it, i think, ease stairway use and very easy to understand. >> this is simple. it's a website where you can compare and purchase affordable health insurance plans side by side the same way you shop for a plane ticket on kayak or a tv on amazon. you just go on and start looking. here are all the options. >> just visit b health care.gov. you can compare insurance plans side by side the i same way you shop for a plane ticket on kayak

or a tv on amazon. >> you can't make it up. lanny, i have plans for you in a minute. >> health care plan? >> kimberly, it's ready to use, easy to use like amazon. >> it's not ready for primetime. that's for sure. what's most flagrant about this is they knew ahead of time. if they had such disregard for the health of the american people. they flat out lied about it and what are they going the to do to fix it? nobody can get on. when you do who will pay for this? they haven't thought it through. why did they hire these people so set up the website? a guy at starbucks ripping off wifi could have set up a better system. >> that's a great point. i agree with kimberly. we'll get to it. it's three times what it was promised. 45 of 50 states people are

seeing premium prices going up, not down you watch the roll out. support it. 624 million taxpayer dollars in three years and this is what we've got? amazon? >> i'm about to surprise you. yes, the roll out has been piss poor pathetic, but -- >> no but. you were doing well. >> it doesn't mean the product isn't good. this is a good product. we'll get through the fixes. there are people coming in. yes, i was embarrassed watching president have to be a sham wow salesman up there. >> how does that work? >> wait a minute. say that? >> sham wow works. >> the insurance works. that's the issue. for someone who couldn't afford insurance they don't care how long it takes.

they want their child to have insurance for the first time ever. >> 30 million americans will remain uninsured. and there are 800,000 new jersey y yans, 300,000 floridians and many americans won't have insurance. the huge cost fak the tor. >> hundreds of thousands of people are losing insurance. they are not meeting the requirements that you need to have under obama's form of health care. people are losing their current insurance. at the same time, we really don't know what the cost is. it will go to the packers pair in the end. in the end we may see more people uninsured. that's the irony here. >> one of the big promises, if you like your health care, keep it. lanny davis you are as great a spin artist i have ever met. i have been battling you since the impeachment days. you can't spin your way out of

this. >> i don't know how to respond to all the compliments. i support this program. it's been important for america to have national health insurance. we are the only western democracy that doesn't. this is not a good roll out. there have been problems. there is a way to solve problems by asking the private sector who has been in the business of selling health insurance to come in. >> freeze frame. he said to go to the free market. the president said we'll get the best and brightest to fix it. why not to start it? >> i agree. i wonder the exact same question. we want a product that works. that's what's interesting. obama said from the beginning this will work if young people buy into the prans. they don't have the attention spap to go onto the website.

they don't want to delay it because they think young people won't sign up. >> if it's not working by december 15 we have a problem. the website should have been done right. heads need to roll for it. >> it's not just the website. many places have reported this is actually about the system. it's not nationalized health care. they are trying to create competition. >> we need to nationalize health care? i'm for it that. >> no. costs will skyrocket because there is only one health insurer participating in the exchanges. it's the insurers. >> new york has rural communities and they are doing fine. >> what you are suggesting is the internet and the program should be two ent the tis. the fact is it goes to a leadership and planning issue which affect it is broader goal

of what the b health care law is trying to do. the idea that this will be like kayak.com is absurd. you never would have spent millions of dollars to put in a navigator program to help people through the process. >> we had luke chung on last night. he said he would be embarrassed if he couldn't build a better site for $1 million. the taxpayers paid $634 million for this. we know the projected costs are three times what he said. people aren't getting to keep insurancement and there is premium rate shock. what does it take for a chuck schumer liberal like you to say this is not what we were promised. request can you acknowledge that? >> this has been a train wreck of a launch. >> the

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before we bring back our studio audience it's time to expose another obama care lie. let's let's see what the president promised about his health care plan and how much it would lower premiums for families. take a look at the this. >> if you have health insurance through your employer you can keep your doctor, your plan. the only thing we'll do is lower costs so those cost savings are passed on to you. we can cut the average family's premium by about $2500 per year. i'm not interested in capping premiums. i want to lower them by $2500 p per family per year. we will start by reducing premiums by $2500 a year. >> we'll bring down premiums by $2500 and bring down costs for the country. you will have a clear contrast.

john mccain, bush light health care plan or a plan that lowers premiums by $2500. >> we know those were lies because the cost of obama care for a family of four will increase by $7,450. not exactly the $2500 decrease the president promised. that's a $10,000 swing. with us congressman mike rogers from michigan. >> good to see you, sean. >> we'll scroll the heritage foundation went state by state, looked at the prime premium increase for a 27-year-old and a 50-year-old. 45 of 50 states have increases instead of decreases. >> it's incredible. think about what they promised up front, sean. 85% of americans before the bill was passed had health insurance the vast majority of which they

liked and wanted to keep. 15% didn't. think about what they did. they said, we'll fix the b problem by destroying the health care you know and like. and at least have some cost aware ness of for 85% of americans to fix the 15% that didn't have it. they have rubed it and it is having real life implications. the website says they can't function dealing with millions of americans' health care plans. presents security questions, too. the i have a small school system in my district. they figured their costs. it looks like it will exceed $100,000, not because of a new plan. just fees, mandates and premium increases. they have nowhere to go to get the money. do you know what they will do? this is important. they are talking about laying off one or two teachers. gone. lose their job. this is no way to fix the

problem. costs are up. the number one reason people can't get health care in america before the bill was passed, cost. guess what the number one reason is after the health care bill passed? cost. we need to re-look at this. it's not fair to working american who is had a plan through their employer. they were playing by the rules and the president said, that's not good enough. we'll punish you to fix the 15%. so now everybody is unhappy. that's no way to solve a b problem. >> it's not. we are putting the heritage study numbers up state by state. the average man will see a doubling of his premium. the arch woman, 62%. this was passed in the dark of night. now that we have the rhetoric versus reality, shouldn't the country have a debate bf they jump in to this law knowing the it is different from what was promised? >> i think so, sean. the sad part is they will say, well, republicans never had a plan to replace it.

that's not true. under federal law they said insurance companies couldn't compete across state lines. i live in michigan. i could go down to indiana and get my optical insurance, my house insurance, car insurance, but i couldn't get blue cross/blue shield of indiana because i live in michigan. we said, let the market work. before you screw up health care and by the way more people got letters that their health care is cancelled than signed up for obama care so far. we ought the to use the free market principles, force insurance companies to compete over state lines. that lowers prices. health care high risk pools. that takes care of people. there are a lot of great answers. this roll out shows you they are not likely to do it well. >> lanny suggesteded go to the free market ambassador they could help solve the mess obama

created wasting this money. one quick question about the hearings today. even the obama care contractor couldn't log on. they didn't have time to test it and the administration changed it a month out. $634 million we spent on this? >> yeah. the iphone first rolled out. think how sophisticated it is. cost $150 million. works pretty good. over $600 million and this doesn't work at all. the other part we are not talking about, they are adding new lines of code to fix the problems. it is clear by their testimony they never really did an end to end real time security test of the system. that means your personal information is vulnerable at least through the weak points. they are doing it every day. adding new weaknesses every day. we don't have a sense that it's safe and secure. your personal information. we really need to stop this

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welcome back to this audience edition of "hannity." we are continuing to expose the obama care lies n. a few minutes you will meet a woman who was an obama care telephone operator until she spoke with me on my radio program this week. she was fired simply for telling me the truth. the president told me to call, i called. we'll speak to her in a few minutes. first a look at broken promise number 3. >> under the reform we are proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. p if you do have health insurance we'll help make sure your insurance is more affordable and more secure. if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. >> if you have health insurance through your employer, you can

keep it, keep your choice of doctor and your plan. >> if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. period. sadly many team obama supporters took the president at his word and are suffering the consequences. we told you about how one florida company is cancelling over 300,000 policies can you to the new requirements. at new jersey.com they reported 800,000 new jersey yans will lose insurance because of obama care. unfortunately there is another disturbing story. according to a.p., boston scientific corporation plans to shed as many as 1500 jobs worldwide or 6% of the work force in an effort to cut costs. it explains the medical device maker had already announced up to 1,000 job cuts in january in response to limited growth prospects in certain markets and taxeses reelated to the health care overhaul. we bring back our studio audience. is that a broken promise?

>> it is the sort of thing i think when you look at the central problem b with what obama was doing there, it's the approach basically saying we'll give all things to all people. the most honest folks on the left said the president shouldn't make this promise because he can't keep it. this goes beyond a poor website. he sold the this to the american people based on a falsehood. >> that's a broken promise. wokely standard will go to 16 million people losing health insurance. president said, you like your plan, you keep it. that's not true. >> it's almost certainly an i flated sats tick. two groups are losing health insurance here. one has insurance that don't meet the criteria that obama care set up in which case they have to go to the exchanges but will almost certainly get better, more comprehensive --

>> the president didn't promise better more expensive coverage. he said his approach would bring down the cost of the coverage you were getting, plans you liked. this is a proeken promise. >> you're shaking your head. if you like your plan, keep your plan. 80 #,000 new jerseyians liked their plan and kuhn can't keep it. >> this will require more money to cover people with with pre-existing conditions. >> i didn't ask that. i said the president said if you like your plap he can keep it. >> ended up overselling by saying that. some people will lose their current insurance to upgrade. >> >> who likes their plan? oh, my god. i love my insurance company. they're so great to me. >> we have been putting it up state by state. the increase in cost. now the cost is going up. you can't keep your plan. the whole thing is pred indicated on one lie after

another. >> one broken promise feeds into the next. they keep the premium increase as low as they can. so they restrict the provider network which means not only do you have higher premiums, you can't keep the doctor you want and the plans are have to meet the mandated essentially health benefits so the costs increase and you can't keep the plan you had before. now you need the obama care government approved plan. >> doug, you are a pragmatic democrat. for example, if uh you said something to me, sean, i promise i will be at your house. you would be there or call me to say you wouldn't make it. >> you know i would. >> the website is not like amazon. we know that. people are getting fired or having hours reduced. >> correct. >> all of this combined tells me this is a bait and

isn't it a lie? >> i'm not using the word lie. it hasn't been what's promised. i am pragmatic. we have to do what the democrats and republicans want to do -- delay the vinl mandate for a year. we have to do something rational. try to fix a law that's not working. >> why can't we start over? >> we need to start over. the congressional hearing focused on the website, you're right. this goes beyond fraud. we need to bring witnesses in, people who have been damaged, find out what's going on and fix it. >> isn't it a question to fix it quickly, rather than do investigations? >> we spent $634. >> don't fix it quickly. >> cut your losses. >> the way we start fixing the law is you've got to get democrats to start voting with republicans which means as

republicans we need to start putting out ideas where there is agreement. as doug said there is agreement on delay. >> they have not shown a plan, not once. >> let me see. come up with a plan. >> there are eight different plans. the failure of this approach has done enormous benefit to the free market side that wants to move to a credit or deductiduct approach. i understand you don't know health policy. >> representative tom price from georgia put forward a plan to cover people who have pre-existing conditions through group programs. he made legislation for that. >> let me tell you. >> the cato institute put out health savings accounts. musgrave wrote a book patient

power. every individual has a plan. it would incentivize a yearly change-up to detect problems earlier. it has catastrophic insurance as part of it. it's if you have a heart attack, cancer, knee operation. >> i like metd care for all. >> why did pryor and three other democrats come forward and write a letter saying to stop it? >> we'll probably beat him because of this. >> you need to underpromise and over deliver. >> we have to take a break. i don't worry. i promise next. coming up next, we'll meet an obama care telephone operator until she speak with me this week. she was fired the next day. she'll tell you the story tonight next. and then -- >> add it all up and the plan

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thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are troubling times in the kingdom. more discounts than knoweth what to do with. now that's progressive. we updated the home page to the offer more information about other avenues to enroll until the online option works for everybody. you will find information b about how to talk to a specialist who can help you apply over the phone. >> that was president obama on monday urging people who were trying to sign up for obama care and couldn't get online to call the hotline. we took the president, took his advice, called the number he gave out, a very nice woman named erline davis picked up,

answered our questions, was patient. here is part of the conversation. >> hello? >> how may i help you? >> you're on the radio with sean hannity. is it eileen? >> urline. i'm the health care marketplace call center. >> that's who i want to call. you're on the radio. is that okay with you? you have to say yes if you want to be on. >> it's okay. yes, sir. >> what's your first name? >> urline. >> the next day she was fired. she joined me now to explain why. thank you for being with us. i appreciate you coming. >> yes, sir. >> by the way. you were kind, patient, helpful. you answered every question. wasn't that what your job was to answer the questions? the president gave out the number. >> yes, sir. that was. >> did they ever tell you that you can't answer questions on a

radio show? was that part of your training? >> no, sir. i never knew about that. >> yeah. so you took my call, answered our questions which was a benefit because we have a big radio audience. we are on over 500 stations. that would result in fewer people calling. but the next day what happened? >> they fired me. >> walk us through what happened. you come into work and what happened? >> i got escorted to h.r. which is human resources and it was four of us including myself in the office. they locked both the doors and waited until they had me on speakerphone with one of the head ladies. they got in contact with her and i could barely understand what she was saying but i did hear she said we can't have that type of stuff at the job and we have to release you. that's when i put my badge down on the desk. >> then what? were you escorted out?

>> yes, sir. i got escorted out. before i got escorted out they got my stuff out of my locker. >> they didn't let you go back to your own locker? >> no, sir. they didn't let me go to my locker. >> how long had you worked there? >> i worked there almost five weeks. >> so this was a new b job for you. you went through the training. they never said you couldn't do this and you were answering the questions, right? >> yes, sir. >> i'm not sure why they did this. you were on my radio show today. i feel terrible about this for you. >> yes, sir. >> i can say you live in panama city. that's okay, right? >>yes, sir. that's fine. >> so the response today after we gave out -- we set up a special site -- e-mail on my website, jobs@hannity.com. it's been overwhelming. we'll send the e-mails to you. people want to send you stuff. >> okay.

>> people are stepping up. we already have one job offer we know of for you. we'll pass it on as quickly as we can. >> okay. >> what's your rooegs to people wanting to help you this way? >> i will really wasn't expecting much of anything. it's a blessing from god. i'm happy. >> yeah. i'm happy. just for people who didn't listen. we calculated your yearly income and i'm going to gift money to you and your son and give you a year's salary so you don't have to worry while you are waiting for a job. i hope that makes you happy, too. >> yes, sir. it does. thank you so much. >> did you learn anything from this? are you surprised that kathleen sebelius has her job still? you got fired for doing yours. >> yes, sir. >> a little surprising. >> a little surprising. >> over the years i have had frustrating people when you make

phone calls. you were one of the nicest, kindest, most helpful people. we'll make it right for you. we appreciate you telling the story. you didn't deserve this to happen. we'll help you out. >> thank you so much. >> all right. thank you very much. we biel 'll be in touch. more with the studio audience after the break. stay with us. [ male announcer ] crabfest ends soon, so hurry in and try three succulent entrées. like our new snow crab and crab butteshrimp, just $14.99. only at red loter where we sea food differently. [ male announcer ] now try 7 lunch choices at $7.99. andwiches, salads, and more.

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welcome back. it's no secret the administration has a very severe spending problem. the president knew he had to sell his health care plan by promising that it would reduce the deficit and be affordable for the country which now brings us to obama care lie number four.

>> add it all up. the plan i'm proposing will cost around $900 billion over ten years. >> most of these costs will be paid for with money already being spent. but spent badly. in the existing health care system. the plan will not add to our deficit. the middle class will realize better security, not higher taxes. if we can slow the growth of health care costs by one tenth of 1% each year it will reduce the deficit by $4 trillion over the long term. >> we know now the cost is well over the $900 billion the president promised. the projected total of obama care is $1.8 trillion with a t, and rising between 2014 and 2023. it won't increase the deaf it, right, mr. president? we bring back the studio audience.

anyone agree with that? chris? >> part of the b problem you have with the math is wrong. >> it's the cbo. >> you're misinterpreting what they said.it's the difference b cost of the bill and the result on the deficit. >> stop. no, no. >> wait, wait. >> the president said $900 billion. did he not? now it's $1.8 trillion. >> if they estimate it will cost $300 billion from the deficit over the next ten years. >> this drives me nuts about the liberals. did the president promise $090 billion? it's now $1.8 trillion. can't you just say we are wrong. >> i understand us liberals. >> you libel rals. >> commie? kidding. kidding. >> i'm a democrat. he needs to fix it. we are not going to defund it. he was clearly wrong. that's clear and uncontinue

veritable. >> a fellow democrat who's honest. >> i'm kblad he's honest. it's bigger than that. everyone knows there are b problems. the way every major policy that comes out. every big new policy -- >> it is a problem because -- community organizer is running the whole thing. >> cheap shot. >> whatever. >> i love hyperbole. >> do you want to solve the problem? if you do we can figure it out or play the political game. >> let's go through it. you can't keep the plan. it's a $10,000 swing. it's going higher from what he projected and the website is a mess. >> this is what happens when you put a president's legacy before creating a better america for the people. >> i won't make excuses for the problems. it's week four. i know you are coming at it

objectively. >> it's a website. >> there is not one -- here is the problem. let's go back to kimberly. there is not one thing the president promised and this is the point of the show tonight. the rhetoric versus the reality doesn't match. the american people were sold one thing and they are getting a different thing costing a lot more. they can't keep the plan they had. that's a big, big breach of trust with the people of this country in government. >> it's fraud. >> thank you. >> it was perpetrated against the american people. not only should there be an investigation, i don't want to hear pathetic excuses. i don't have faith. they were grocery irreponsible with finances, the money of the american people. it's shameful what happened here. they haven't helped anyone. he says is the most frustrated. that is what bothers me. oh, no one is more frustrated. he has a white house doctor. there are people that need health care but they're so busy rushing this because of the president's legacy, they

were irresponsible with the finances and health care of the american people. >> we'll be back to you. >> you can't just add good code to that code. >> i want to see a show of hands. if anyone in the private sector spends $634 million with three years and rolled it out like this. is there anyone who believes they'd survive in the private sector? anyone? >> do you know who should be fired? people who sabotaged it. there is a reason. republican governors in 26 states decided they weren't going to build web sites. they took away funding for web jerls. they're blocking people who are going to be the ones helping to sign people up. everything they can. >> new, it's a conspiracy?

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welcome back to "hannity". much has been made of president's obama so called 1-800-speech about the flaws of the obama care web site. watch this. >> if i climb the highest

mountain. 35 years ago. by atlantic. >> it's not the german question alone that remains open. but the question of freedom for all man kind. >> i repeat that. >> we choose to go to the moon. we choose to go to the moon. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> in the meantime you can bypass the web site and apply by phone or in person. >> that kind of says it all. what is your reaction? >> i think the president failed his legacy, sadly. >> do you think this is as big of an impact as, say, katrina? >> this affects everybody. health care is a universal issue. has amazon.com crashed the

week before christmas people would be complaining but this is a much more serious issue. we might not realize it because we have a couple months to work out but i think the american people are quickly realizing it's becoming a joke. >> i think president obama trying to solve problems of the country, a different country that 20, 30 years ago the same way all of presidents did. just another big government program. we need a more nimble government. we need more free market principles across the floor. can't use the same old politics to solve new problems. it's a different world. >> well said. >> december 15th is the date most important. if not fixed and running i mift say let's delay it. as for rnc ad where is the quote? >> i think we know obama is

hell-bent on destroying g.o.p. rather than passing good policy and law. you can laugh. you're saying we're sabotaging the web site? come on. >> i would say this is not the law that we're promised there has been exemptions and delays. you can't keep your health care. so the bottom line is regardless whether you think there are plan changes or predetermined or not this is not the law we're promised. >> lany, i'm going to give you the last word. >> this is a tough problem. the law isn't working. the web sites aren't working. the president should tell that truth. we're a great country and need to fix this. we need national health insurance. >> how about have a national debate about what the best plan would be? >> defund didn't work. we have to make this plan -- . >> where are the people

sending people to the moon? >> we've got to run. guys sorry we're out of time. you were great. give yourselves a big hand. thank you for being with us. start your day with fox and friends 5:00 to 9s up right now. this is a fox news alert and moments ago cath lean sebelius responding to calls for her resignation. her answer may want her to have a do-over. she says she doesn't work for you. no one has been fired. my goal is to get the web site up and running. >> you have offered your resignation, ma'am. >> people calling for you to resign. >> well, the majority of people calling for me to resign i would say are people who i don't work for and who do not want this program to work in the first place.