sending people to the moon? >> we've got to run. guys sorry we're out of time. you were great. give yourselves a big hand. thank you for being with us. start your day with fox and friends 5:00 to 9s up right now. this is a fox news alert and moments ago cath lean sebelius responding to calls for her resignation. her answer may want her to have a do-over. she says she doesn't work for you. no one has been fired. my goal is to get the web site up and running. >> you have offered your resignation, ma'am. >> people calling for you to resign. >> well, the majority of people calling for me to resign i would say are people who i don't work for and who do not want this program to work in the first place.

i have had frequent conversations with the president and i committed to him my goal is to get the program up and running and we will do just that. >> today on capitol hill finger pointing and more finger pointing and more. >> today the committee continues ongoing oversight of the healthcare law. >> unaffordable premiums, dead ends, error messages, system breakdowns. >> the affordable care act is an enormous success with one enormous exception it has a poorly designed web site. >> are they simply inat the incompetent or were they lying to the american people. >> did you build the contract you were paid to build. >> we have. >> did you deliver the project -- did you deliver -- >> -- yes. >> the product that you were contracted? >> yes. >> ms. . >> yes. >> mr. lou. >> yes. >> there is a saying in a computer program garbage in, garbage out. if you are given a bad product to build then ultimately what you will deliver is a bad product. >> it's not about blame.

it's about accountability. transparency and fairness for the american public. broken promises are many. >> either these officials were shockingly unaware of what was happening inside their own agencies or deliberately misleading our committee and the public. >> so you didn't test it prior to october 1? >> no. no, sir. >> $500 million later, we find the american public has been dumped with the ultimate cash for clunkers. except they had to pay the cash and still got the clunker. >> mrs. left, did you personally try to get on the system. >> yes, did i. >> for what state? >> i attempted -- i think i put in texas. >> is that where you are from? >> i am not but i was testing the system. >> did it work? >> well, i logged on to create an account, was able to do so. i just never received a confirmation email. >> but so it didn't work? >> it didn't work. >> all of the risks that we saw and all of the returns that we had regarding

testing were all shared with. >> what was their response when you shared the pit falls in terms of what was going on? >> my understanding is they understood those and were working on them but i don't know further. >> once again, here we have my republican colleagues trying to scare everybody. >> will the gentleman yield. >> no, i will not yield to this morningy court or whatever it is. >> this is not a monkey court. >> do whatever you want. i'm not yielding. >> does the cgi have to rewrite 5 million lines of code to fix the problems we have seen thus far. >> no. can i tell you the 300 plus employees i have back in the office would -- i think they would all walk out if i told them they had to rewrite that many lines of code. >> do you believe it's going to be necessary to scrap the entire healthcare.gov system and start from scratch? >> i do not, sir. >> so you think the web site will be fixed in time to ten sure americans who wanted to get coverage for next year that it will be available to them? >> i do, sir. >> let the goal here be to fix it it, not knicks it.

>> should the lawmakers get the answers to their questions? republican congressman steve scolice was in that heated hearing today. good to see you sir. >> good to be with you, greta. >> as a former computer programmer because i know you are a former computer programmer what did you think of the testimony. >> it was startling. to know the taxpayers spend over $500 million and got a computer system that not only doesn't work but that hhs, kathleen sebelius' agency did not even start testing until literally just a few weeks before the rollout date of october 1st. and even beyond that they made major redesigns of the system to make sure they gathered everybody's information rather than just letting consumers go and get prices. they made a major decision like that literally just a few weeks before the rollout of the program, so clearly this was set up for failure by the very agency. hhs, president obama's agency that paid those $500 million of taxpayer money to build the system.

>> i'm curious. in order to fix the system, do we have to pay again to fix it or do they at least warrantee their work? i mean, we have got -- first we have got the problem with the system. with the web site. but do the taxpayers, are they on the hook again to pay to have this fixed? >> well, you know, from everything that we heard today, they are actually billing right now to fix what the president calls glitches. this isn't a glitch, greta. this is a national embarrassment, the system. >> you know what the problem is though? this is what is really bad. bad enough this cost a fortune whether you you are for or against it the fact that we end up, the taxpayers, having to pay twice because someone was stupid enough not to test the testimony before it was put online or for whatever reason they didn't work together. i know each person that watched the hearing each person that testified said his part of it worked pretty well or worked completely but it was the some title. i mean, at what point do the the taxpayers have to stop bleeding money for these bad

decisions? >> well, we shouldn't be throwing good money after bad. and, you know, of course, greta, when you look at this, ultimately the buck stops with the obama administration because h.h.s. was the agency that was tasked with making all of those individual pieces work that were plugged together and ultimately didn't work. and it was a lot of it was because of the decisions they made in the obama administration to change the system to make people have to give all this personal nothingion. to do with shopping for healthcare before somebody can even go as the president said. i mean, the president promised it would be like amazon, going to amazon and buying a tv. i went to amazon during the hearing and literally within a minute i had 300,000 options to look at tvs and i didn't have to give personal information like this web site makes you give. >> my suspicions a lot of americans are pretty disgusted that they can understand computer glitches what they can't understand is that they have to keep paying over and over and over again because people make very bad decisions on whether to test things or not. congressman, thank you very

much for joining us. >> great being with you, greta. >> griff jenkins was at today's hearing. and while you all know griff general cibs, he wants answers too. he will chase you down for those answers. here is how he tried to get from one of the. can you tell us do you believe now we should have a delay? would you recommend to the administration that we have a delay or a pause? >> excuse me. >> thank you very much. >> we would like to ask a few questions if you don't mind. >> we're going to refer you to -- right now thank you very much. >> you are welcome. >> thank you very much. thank you very much. >> did you feel that this was -- >> -- thank you very much. >> this was a monkey court as suggested. was it a monkey court? >> thank you very much. we are not taking any questions. thank you very much. >> ms. campbell, i think what the american people want to know is should there be a delay, diewrmd there is a delay? and finally, had you been given the opportunity -- had

you been given the opportunity for a delay, would you have taken it? >> former advisor to president reagan pat buchanan joins us. >> how are you doing, greta. >> she keeps saying thank you very much, thank you very much. thank you very much from her. but i guess she cost and was three and a half. >> get to that later in the show but go ahead. >> three math years 1942 to '95 the united states government built with the help of the industrialists got hundreds of thousands of aircraft. 1600 ships. we armed the united states 12 million men, rush sharks the british empire. destroyed two of the greatest empires on earth. and you mean to tell me these folks in that amount of time, and with $500 million can't create a web site? i mean, greta, this says something not only about the legendary incompetence of this administration, but about government in and of

itself in which an awful lot of people have invested all their hopes as to the future. >> you know, it's other people's money. they don't care. even the contracts are probably no big contracts. we're probably on the hook to repay for this again. we are paying for it right now. nobody is held accountable. kathleen sebelius the hhs secretary says she doesn't work for us. >> you know what did george bush call -- said something was a five spiral crash. now the key question here, i think, is not simply this web site. is it just that, or are these problems with 300,000 people being dumped off their healthcare, 150,000 there. doctors having problems. the things that going to get rid of the individual mandate. is this a debacle for the obama administration? is this whole thing a disaster? which case i think it's not simply the obama administration, which is going to suffer in history, but i think it's the whole idea of the party of government that this is the instrument of change and advancement and progress.

and that idea is at the heart of the liberal idea, if you will. >> one of the reasons why we had this whole healthcare obama care was because we were worried about a lot of americans who didn't have insurance. but, if you read my emails, there is another whole segment of society that we should also be concerned about. and at least the emails i get, people say i'm very sick. i like my doctor, i pay x number of dollars. i need my medicine. i need my doctor. now i got a notice that because of obama care my money has gone up or my cost has gone up. >> that's exactly the point. i'm one of those individuals who say look, i like my doctors, i like my programs and like the rest of it help some folks, fine. if it's going it cost money, fine, leave me alone. they have got this whole thing going here. and i think what you are going to get down the road briefly is the potential vindication of the tea party decision to say we are not going to vote to impose this on the american people. we are going to vote to extend it for one year because this thing ought to be taken back to the shop, just like the dream liner,

if it's battery doesn't work. they voted that way and they stood up. and all this evidence night after night, not simply from fox, frankly, the mainstream media, the big newspapers, you pick them up all over one disaster after another. i think you could move into 2014 with this thing being an albatross around the neck of the president of the united states. and, again, the key question is, is it just this web site or is it the whole program that is really a lemon? >> pat, stay with us. we are going to take a quick break. president obama said he was mad, so you would think the rollout mess of his signature program healthcare that the president would stick around town to crack the whip to make sure that it got fixed. so why is he planning on skipping town? that's next. and you can hash it out with us. are you satisfied with the explanations we're getting from the obama care web site contractors? or did we get hood winked today? tweet or post at facebook right now using hash tag, greta. also, there is very disturbing news tonight. pirates attacking a ship, kidnapping a captain and the

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does president obama have a slight priority problem tonight? we know he is not a a computer programmer so, of course, is he not going to be fixing the computers. with the obama rollout a wreck, should he be busy planning a fundraising glitz? we are back with pat

buchanan. he has 8 fundraising events over the next five weeks. >> that's what he does. is he a verbalist. he goes out and speaks as for manager and executor and organizers he is a complete failure. look, you all have done an awful lot of work with the benghazi thing. two weeks after the benghazi thing is he running around talking about the video just like susan rice. he didn't know about the irs thick. nobody informed him. he didn't know about the wiretaps and all the rest of it. so i think what you have got is really a detached, disinterested executives who believes that speaking and talking to one audience after another after another and saying things and verbalizing well that this is leadership. it's a concept of leadership that is failing. >> i think what my suspicion is that what he thinks is that he needs to make sure the democrats -- he wants the democrats, of course, to regain control of the house. and so if he has the senate and the house, you know, then whatever he wants to do, because, it would be his party. i think that's the whole point campaigning. >> contingent upon two things. one of them is what we talked about earlier is owe become that care just a glitch or is it a debacle?

real trouble. the second is going to be jackpot yellen. if the qe 3 stops and that tape ring stops and inflation breaks out, you could have a very grim, grim situation and tremendous disaster. frankly for the country as well as for barack obama. those are the two issues in which 2014 is going to turn. prediction. you know, the tea party has been knocked all over the place. we are down to 24%. this obama care is going to go down in support in my judgment. and the people who go out there and say we told you it was fouled up, we told you we needed a year, i think a lot of people are going to say well, thought those guys were crazy. they may have been right. >> let me ask you another topic, yesterday it broke that senator dick durbin put on his facebook page that some g.o.p. leader said to the president i can't stand to look at you that was refuted by the g.o.p. leadership as well as the white house. the white house said it never happened. now today there is some report that the democrats are pointing to senator harry reid as the source of that. you know, what's with harry reid? >> well, i don't know if he is the source.

let me say. this a republican did not say that and that was. >> the white house said he didn't stay. >> right. well, okay, whoever put that out, that is a morally -- we have got a rough situation in town and everybody is calling each other names. but that is really dirt ball politics. >> you know, but that's just -- i guess i have a -- i always -- i pick on harry reid because is he a leader. and if the leaders are are going to be that smarmy, i mean, there is no chance -- i mean, you know, if he doesn't get set a bigger example. >> i don't know that he did it if he did it, he ought to stand up in the well of the senate and say i misspoke badly and i apologize if he did it. >> or senator dick durbin could come out and say who told him because he put it on his facebook page. anyway i guess the plot thickens. >> if dick durbin doesn't come out that would finger a a suspicion. you are a trial lawyer you know more about these than i do. >> democrats for delays, more and more democratic

lawmakers i said democratic lawmakers are breaking from the pac and pushing from obama care delays. are they going to get their eyes scratched out by the democratic leadership for speaking out against obama care in the latest is next. also, you are not going to believe this one. do you remember shawn hannity's phone call to obama care operator? well, wait until you hear what happened afterwards? now, only sean hannity would do this. and you are going to see he what it

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>> let's go off the record for a second way off the record may get in trouble for this one. i don't know but you but i think this washington letter writing stuff is silly.

it doesn't work. five page letter gets drafted by capitol hill staffers, letter filled with all sorts of statements. often questions dodged by the white house. the letter gets passed around the house and the senate to collect all those signatures. as many as 20 to 30 senators or even house members signatures could end up signing the letter. probably all done by those automatic signing pens. then with some pomp and circumstance that letter gets fired off to the white house straight into the oval office and then, nothing. absolutely nothing. the letter goes into a black hole. president obama, he never answers it. we doubt any president has. but, you know it doesn't stop there. other officials get them, too. nobody answers them. so maybe capitol hill should get the hint and stop writing the white house. yes, i know. does give us and in the media something to talk about, doesn't it? i plead guilty. i take the bait all the time. i talk about the letters from capitol hill, i show them to you. i do that all the time. but since we are talking off the record, dimension it.

you have to admit it does seem a bit like a dog and pony show sometimes, doesn't it? and that is my off the record commentary for tonight. and if you have an important story or issue you think i should take off the record go to gretawire.com and tell us about it and now though to it a very serious developing story on the high seas. west africa off the coast of nigeria at this hour. two americans missing. pirates kidnapping them from a commercial ship. grn reporter ben is live in nigeria with the very latest. ben, what is the latest on the pirate kidnappings? >> i spoke with the spokes american of nigerian navy -- and he said that the guy nigerian navy have divided to deploy a number of personnel to come to the area and the government to see that the kidnapped

americans are set free. those should be arrested and brought to court that is a letter. -- nigerian navy, american navy and even of the u.k. because for 14 days they have been training nigerians how to counter piracy and -- kidnapped. this tells you that it is a knock on the navy. >> it is a very scary story as we wait to find out the fate of these americans. ben, thank you very much for joining us. >> okay. now to yim testimony in of the utah dr. macneill, prosecutors say he drugged and drowned his beauty queen wife so he could be with his

mistress gypsy. two daughters testifying against the father. testifying about father's behavior at family lunch following her mother's funeral. >> did you observe his demeanor at that luncheon? >> yes. >> what was he doing? >> he was commenting on how he is a single man now and being social and just -- kept very casual and. >> do you recall any joking? >> yes. he was -- he was -- making jokes about being single and laughing and it made me sick. >> michelle macneil was found dead in her bathtub in

2007. her husband's defense lawyers argue that she decide from heart disease. and coming up, before there was a tech surge there was a cash surge. why did the obama web site cost you hundreds and hundreds of million dollars in the last six months? find out next.

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but you will. because that's next.

you really have to hear this one. remember the obama care operator who talked to sean hannity on his radio show? she just got fired for talking to sean. it all started on monday when sean had this conversation with operator irlien davis. >> they are really telling you to tell us to check back in on the web site in off hours. does that mean i should go on at 3:00 in the morning? >> if it was say early in the morning and late at night. some people say they do that and they still can't get in. >> so people are reporting to you the real deal? >> yes, sir. they are. >> yeah. have you ever caught anybody that really likes it yet? >> no, not really. >> well today sean hannity tell his listeners that davis got fired. he brought the former operator back on his show

and gave her a pleasant surprise. >> i don't want you to have to pay a price just for taking our phone call and they are being punitive in some way, so i want to help you you out here. i talked to my accountant, and i can legally gift you, meaning give you a gift that's tax-free. >> okay. >> i can give you $13,000 for you and i'm going to give you $13,000 for one of your children. so that's a year's salary tax-free. so you don't have to pay taxes on that money. >> tonight davis is a guest on hannity at 10:00 p.m. eastern. here is a preview. >> we set up a special site, email on my web site jobs at hannity.com. it's been overwhelming. >> yes, sir. >> and we are going to send all of these emails to you and people want to send you stuff. >> okay. >> and people are stepping up. we already have one job offer that we know of for you. we are going to pass it all on to you as quickly as we

can. >> okay. >> what is your reaction to people wanting to help you this way? >> i wasn't really expecting much of anything, but it's a blessing from god. >> whatever you do, do not miss sean hannity at 10:00 p.m. eastern tonight. this is the absolute best show. make sure you watch. news tonight, there was another flashing red light that the obama web site was heading for trouble. this morning it came with a hefty price tag. eleast is back with us. now what? what's the story on the money. this is a study that came out by bloomberg government nonpartisan study saying because of all the problems with the web site that were encountered by federal health officials six months before its launch, the price of this entire thing is skyrocketing to over a billion dollars. a lot of people have been saying it's in the 300 to 500-million-dollar range. now we know it's actually much more than that. >> a billion? >> a billion. that's what the study said. they looked at federal records, and used key words to make sure that they were gleaning all of the relevant contracts for this. >> and, to me, that is

astounding. that is the really ugly story here. nobody is supervising it. no one test ran this thing. no one is paying attention. and the american taxpayers now get hit with a billion dollars. >> i think it's raising huge questions about the federal contracting system no doubt because we know that many of the people who were involved in this were sort of on retainer for the federal government. they didn't go through what would be a normal bidding process for this. and now all of these ceilings on the contracts are just being passed right through. and government watchdog groups are very concerned. >> and so there is just no end. there san hourly rate, nonstop. you get paid by the hour, and there is nothing -- nobody is policing it and the truth is, what the american people ought to know is that this is not something that's just going on with obama care. there is so many government contract contracts out there that do the same thing. >> i think that's right. this obama care web site we are seeing all the technical glitches that have arisen and they haven't been fixed yet.

and the white house announced this week that there would be the tech surge and these alpha teams of tech experts that are going to come in and fix this are are have from a variety of companies that haven't been named yet. that's also going to cost additional money. we will be counting on watchdog groups to make full disclosure on this. >> the answer is yes we are going to be paying for all the repairs, all the redoing. there is no warranty that this stuff ever worked. nobody ever does his job. nobody is watching the money. nobody at hhs. nobody cares. it's just spend spend spend. >> i was at a hearing this morning and the house energy and commerce committee and there were four government contractors there. one of which has made at least $500 million off of this. they were shifting blame. they were saying well our piece of the web site worked. theirs didn't. and h.h.s. didn't put it together propertily. but really ours worked. that was their message today. >> what a nightmare. elise thank you. >> thank you, greta. >> thank you for being with us tonight. we will see you all again tomorrow night right here at our new time 7 p.m. eastern. don't forget sean hannity has a special show at 10:00 p.m. eastern. go to gretawire.com.

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