thanks everybody for being >> you can do that but i'm with us tonight. too old to do it. i'm martha maccallum. kelly is coming up right after the factor. i will see you tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. in america's watters world coming up after these announcements. newsroom with bill hemmer. greta will be back here watters went to the least sexy college in the u.s.a. tomorrow night for "on the he will tell us what it is record" at 7 p.m. eastern. up next the o'reilly factor. good night, everybody. we will give you the whirl the royale factor is -- next. the o'reilly factor is on, tonight. >> what we are talking about advil congestion relief. is insurance companies that chose not to keep the flan it delivers a one-two punch at pain and sinus pressure they could have grandfathered. >> the latest tactic from with the power of advil and a nasal decongestant the obama administration is in a single pill. blaming the insurance advil congestion relief. companies for the obamacare chaos. karl rove and i will analyze. ♪ joy to the world ♪ the lord has come. >> another one by thes the dust after megyn he kelly and i school district they reversed themselves. ms. megyn will be here tonight. >> i am today announcing my candidacy. >> far left movie director oliver stone says he refuses to watch my movie "killing kennedy this wow.

that might be good news. >> when does it all end, huh? how much is enough? >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. more excuses about obamacare. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. the latest is all the chaos is being caused by the health insurance companies. >> the insurance companies that chose to strip away benefits from existing plans in the interim that cancelled existing plans in the interim. you know, they took away that grandfathering opportunity. and that's a reality. >> oh, but according to the "the washington post," mr. carney is not telling the whole truth. quote: the administration's effort to pin the blame on insurance companies is a classic case of misdirection

between 75% and 95% of the problem stems from the effective date when obamacare mandates began but the white house chooses to give the focus elsewhere. now, they gave them three pinocchios out of four the "the washington post" did. and, once again, the analysis by a liberal newspaper, the obama administration is not telling the truth. so what, exactly is the truth? here it is. if you are a health insurance company, you are now required to offer a bunch of services that may not be good for business. such as, maternity and newborn care to 90-year-olds. and mental health and substance abuse coverage for everybody. so, some companies are simply canceling the policies because they can't make money on them or because the policies themselves don't comply with the new mandates from the feds. so they have to cancel. president obama knew that would happen and he actually wants it to happen. because it forces americans into the obamacare exchanges

to get new policies, many of which are more expensive. remember, remember. the goal of president obama and the democratic party is for the government to control the entire healthcare industry. that's called the single pair system. if -- single payer system. if private insurance companies get out of the healthcare business the feds take on more power and will eventually run the entire show setting premium rates and dictating prices for medical services. but the president will never tell us any of that. back of the book segment now, the latest poll on tonight the. watters world, the least sexy obamacare from george college in the country at least washington university says 53% of americans now oppose according to the buzz feed it 43% approve. website. earlier this week watters so most americans are finally wising up to the traveled to the university of oh wisconsin which leads the league in sexiness they say. quasisocialistic agenda of the democratic party. the day before halloween watters now, my analysis is not ideological. in fact, as you may know, i traveled to the university of think some right wing idealogues are actually helping president obama by houston. attacking him personally. we don't do that here.

and that has frustrated some factor riewrs. ann hammock who lives in >> university of houston ranked the least sexy university in dallas, georgia writes quote: i'm disgusted that america. >> i don't believe that! you would soft pedal >> what? president obama's facts of >> what are we going to do? >> we have to get better women obamacare. perhaps he didn't know he here. i don't know. was lying when he said we >> kid's got a good point. >> what happened? could keep our doctors and our insurance. >> some people don't have eno h i seriously doubt it if everyone keeps america off the hook america will not be recognizable as the hand of opportunity. well, i appreciate your enough -- i guess. letter, ann, but nobody is >> there are sexy people on this letting president obama off the hook. campus. if you watch us, you must >> find some for me. see, you must know how >> uh -- >> anyone? effective we have been in anyone? >> are you contributing to the dismantling the obamacare problem? >> no. >> are you sure? >> sexy dorothy. excuse-making machine. is the wizard coming knocking? for example, rather than >> the wizard already came. concentrate on the word lie, which polarizes, we have >> what do you do for fun around presented fact after fact after fact showing the new law is chaotic to say the here? >> don't even use that eyebrow least. that's why our ratings are are through the roof while move on me. other news agencies that it won't work. >> do you party? apologize to the president are getting hammered. >> are you going to get me in

the way to overturn the trouble? >> it would be cooler if you progressive movement in did. >> do you think the costume is america, is to vote the rascals out. too tight? >> no. that's the only way it's >> do you know what i mean? going to happen. >> it's good. and in order to do that, you >> everywhere? >> everywhere. have to defeat the >> looks uncomfortable. progressives with facts. >> it gets kind of itchy. >> have you tried speaking with not throw out hate stuff. a raspier voice? and that's the memo. >> what do you want? now, for the top story ♪ happy birthday to you tonight, reaction, joining us from washington, fox news analyst karl rove. where am i going on here, >> satin sheets. mr. rove? >> well, i think you have listening to marvin gaye. got it pegged pretty well. the problems are big. >> do you think i should? not just with the web site >> you need to be the paul revere of sexy. but with the underlying >> give me sexy or give me policy. and the problems are going death. to get worse. >> that's patrick henry. starting with the fact that >> oops. thus far we have seen >> play hard to get. it could work. 4.2 million policies >> i have to learn from the cancelled. that represents an even master. teach me. larger number of people >> a good teacher. that's a number of policies. he really seems to care. >> let me see your sexiest look? we have got a lot more people who are going to lose their coverage. the congressional budget >> like this? >> try it again. office at the time that the bill passed in 2010 said almost. that 8 to 9 million one more time. people -- 7 to 8 million much better. people would lose their do you like guys or girls? coverage. a month later, the >> girls. department of health and >> definitely? human services chief actuary >> i'm completely straight.

for the center for medicine yeah. yeah. medicare and medicaid i like girls. services 14% are going to completely. completely. lose coverage. the economics firm said 17 million. the american action network >> i think we understand each had a group of economists who estimated 35 million other. >> give me a wink. >> i don't know if i can wink. people would lose their >> looks like you have something coverage. and the national center for in your eye. policy analysis said over a more like this. >> i'll practice at home. three year period as many as >> lick your lips. 100 million people could lose their employer provided no that looks like you have food coverage. we don't want to know what the number is, but in your teeth. do you ever do the thighmaster? 4.2 million policies being >> it's easy to squeeze your way cancelled is a start. >> okay. i think there is going to be a revolt. to shapely hips and thighs. >> get out there and be sexy. it's not going to come from conservatives, it's going to come from the democrats themselves. >> yes, drill sergeant! we saw that yesterday. it was a meeting in the white house. i guess it was 14 democratic >> do you watch the o'reilly factor? >> i wish we would tone it down. senators -- >> -- 16. >> 15. >> it's not all b about me. many of them in jeopardy of losing their seats next >> what's your favorite part? year. they want a delay because of >> watters report. all the problems. >> watters world. >> watters world? and president obama, according to them, not very responsive. i think the president is >> fight! going to have to be >> that's what we're talking responsive. don't you? about. >> well, look, to what >> was anybody upset? first of all, it looked like though? they didn't know.

i mean,. >> this was news to them. >> to the delay of a year. they all want this to be i don't know if it should have delayed a year. been. i was trying to give them a pep >> they don't all want a talk. year's delay. >> we know what you were doing. some of them want a delay of >> hard to believe. i was unsexy for a period of six weeks in the penalty. time. >> was that when you had the others want a longer collar up on the shirt? enrollment period of some >> i had long hair. undefined length. some of them like manchin do i wore played. drove a chrysler le baron. want a year-long delay in >> you're wearing played now. the mandate. nobody among that group is >> this is gingham. saying hey let's stop. >> if i were the guy in the time-out. banana suit, i would have let's take a year or six punched you, man. months to get this thing right before it starts >> i said, listen, i have to getting to be implemented. and look you had 15 people split. i'm out of here. >> banana, split. led by 15 democrats led by -- up for election next okay. year led by a 16th democrat university of houston in the town, fourth largest city. i worked in dallas for two who happened to be led by years. the chairman of the the best-looking women in the democratic committee. world are in texas. >> who was that? >> you would think so. >> bennett of colorado. >> yeah! >> there's oil money, hot sun, latino population. michael bennet. once you start to say as i don't know what's going wrong manchin wants as mandates. there? >> i don't know either. i don't know what's wrong at the the whole thing kick in and university of houston. go back to what we have now whatever. we're not telling anybody what your next assignment is. i think that's probably the best thing for the it will be on smonmonday.

democratic senators. then they would get to the you will like it. polling place without all in a moment the factor tip of the bad stuff that obamacare the day. is going to bring being known. >> yeah. a director refusing to watch but, look, that's not going to harassment you are right. the white house may give on "killing kennedy." something, the white house sort of gave some indication last week that it might be willing to delay the penalty change engineering in dubai, for six weeks. but they are not going to delay it a year. aluminum production in south africa, so what we are going to do is we are going to go and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? through a year in which increasing numbers of people at t. rowe price, we understand the connections are losing their coverage. of a complex, global economy. then they are going into the exchanges to try to get it's just one reason over 70% of our mutual funds coverage and finding out that it's going to cost them beat their 10-year lipper average. more and this is going to be t. rowe price. invest with confidence. a key point. part of the theme -- part of request a prospectus or summary prospectus the underlying policy of the with investment information, risks, fees and expenses affordable care act is in order to cut costs, health to read and consider carefully before investing. insurance policies have to provide fewer options for access. that is to say you don't get to sees a many doctors or providers require more benefits but fewer options to where you get those benefits so people are going to be saying look i have now got a policy that's costing me more and i don't get to go see my doc. >> if i do i will have to wait a longer period of time. >> right, that's correct. >> see, this is what -- this is what is going to happen.

if what you you say comes true, if what karl rove is saying on the factor tonight comes true, it's going to be ne. it's a romp. >> it could be. >> the republicans could run -- they could run miley cyrus. >> no, no, no. we tried running -- we have tried running the political equivalent of that and we didn't get too far. we have to have good candidates. there are a couple other problems. already we are starting to see like in colorado, remember, they assume that 7 million people will be put into medicaid and 11 million people will sign up for the exchanges. thus far, that doesn't look like. >> but they don't care about running up deficits and debt on this. you know that? >> i know. but, look, what is going to happen is we are going to start paying attention to that deficits and debt was the big part of the driver in 2010. if the numbers on this program are bad next year, it's going to have an impact on the election. also going -- we're also going to have higher cost

per enrollment. think about delaware. delaware has had four people sign up, bill, last month, the month of october the federal government paid four community organizations in delaware to be navigators. >> look, i don't want to get factor tip of the day. too micro -- do you know why oliver stone badmouthing they only have four in delaware? "killing kennedy" in a moment. do you know why only four showed up? >> it's all screwed up. first the mail. >> no, no, no. dennis from florida. it's because joe biden made them. he dragged them. kirsten powers has no idea how >> he dragged them there. >> broke into a house with the real world works. in industry incompetent managers fowfer people. >> this is an important are fired and escorted out the point. we paid $333,000 as door. there is little accountability going on in washington. taxpayers last month to four community organizations in jeffrey reeves, denver, delaware who signed up four people. we paid $83,333 for each one colorado. if kirsten was advising lincoln, grant never would have been of those people to be signed appointed and the south would up. now, we are going to see have won the war. more things like this. harsh. you know, the $600 toilet susan from virginia. seat for the air force is charles krauthammer is wrong. going to pale by ken cuccinelli didn't lose because he was a weak candidate. significance. >> it all comes back to the individual voter if that he lost because the republican person is getting hurt, that person is not going to vote party didn't help him enough and a third party libertarian democratic. that's the story. mr. rove, thanks as always. candidate got some votes. next on the run down an on the third party guy exit honest liberal will reply to polling show uhs he took votes

from the republicans and the all of this. and then "time" magazine calling governor christie an democrats. >> toronto, canada. elephant on its cover. mayor ford's approval ratings were up seven points after he they did it are you kidding me? the factor is coming right confessed to smoking crack. back. [ paper rustles, outdoor sounds ] brian from toronto, the reason rob ford survives as mayor is he ♪ cut government spending and [ male announcer ] laura's heart attack brought the radical left city didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen council under control. to help reduce the risk of another one. i'm still with ford. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor >> from randy in toronto. before you begin an aspirin regimen. i'm surprised that the you and martha fell for the liberal media machine here. kevin from north carolina. the manner in which you take on serious issues and still manage to have fun with miller, carolla, gutfeld and mcguirk is how do you react when you first see this? key to keeping the factor fresh. it looks kind of like a dancer? reality check: from washington, bill, we are some 4g lte coverage maps coming to the see you in vegas. don't really look like maps. can i buy you a gluten-free seems like maybe... a bunch of berries. this one feels more empty. dinner? nice, annette. what do you see here? i will roll into town just before the show.

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theory. i think oliver would do well to watch this sunday. it's a fact-based film that he may learn from. by the way, i will be on the cbs morning program around 7:30 tomorrow and fox & friends shortly after 8:00 if you want to check it out. that's it for us tonight. check out the fox news factor website which is different from bill o'reilly.com. we'd like you to spout off from anywhere in the world. o'reilly@fox news.com. name and town if you would like to opine. word of the day, do not be choleric. that's not a disease. cholera is a disease. this is a personality trait. i have 15 seconds to kill. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. the mad as hell website is different from the just regular with the spark cascard from capital one, i get 2% cash back on ery purchase, every day. website we use every day. i break my back around here. mad as hell@fox news.com.

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♪ obamacare by morning years ago. the white house knew it and debateded it internally ♪ over six people served [cheers and applause] joining us from san francisco, big country music fan dennis kucinich former congressman and fox news analyst. you are honest guy and that's why we have you on the program. your party is headed for big trouble. you know it, i know it, rove knows it. are you going to tell the folks that? >> well, first of all, bill, the american people are concerned about the inability of both political parties to deliver jobs, to deliver healthcare for all, to solidify retirement service to keep us out of war. so, i don't see this as a democrat/republican thing. you are right i have watched many of your shows. the rollout of the healthcare plan has been a disaster. but, an even greater disaster is the fact that you have auto million people

without any health insurance. >> that's theoretical. now you have got the voters who are seeing their premiums go up and seeing all this chaos. and the voters are going to react against the party in power. against the party who has thrust this upon them. they are not going to go back to theory. you know that. >> well, we are not going to go back to a status quo where the insurance companies were taken one out of every three healthcare dollars for corporate profits, stock options, executive salaries, advertising, marketing and the cost of paperwork. because a trillion dollars in our economy goes for things that run related to healthcare. that's why we don't need a healthcare system that's run by insurance companies. >> all right. but if that's your position and certainly it is, shouldn't president obama be upfront about that? and he hasn't been. he has been deceptive. >> well, no. >> let me make my case and you can reply shouldn't he say that dennis kucinich and

i were pals we want a single payer system where the federal government provides healthcare for a fee based upon income and this is what we want and that's why we are doing the obamacare thing? and why doesn't he just be honest about what the goal is? >> well, what president obama has developed is not a single payer system. >> no, but he wants that. >> context of a for profit system. this is for profit, bill. it's not not for profit. >> they don't want it to be for profit. this is the first step. >> you are looking at the author of a bill that would provide for not for profit healthcare where everyone would be covered and everyone would have affordable care. this policy that president obama has put in to law is for reform saying there are 10 essential services including er care, outpatient, maternity and infant care and preventative care that ought to be covered in any healthcare plan. it's a little bit different

because it's still in the context of a for profit. >> you are dodging my question. you know what the ultimate goal is, your bill. that's what the president really wants. he couldn't get it because it's too radical. let me give you a reason why not. president obama had a chance way back a few years ago when we were in the debate. to have a public option included remember that we could have had a public option. he didn't want it. >> he thought it would cost him votes. >> well, wait a minute, 75 democrats signed a letter saying we are not going to have any kind of affordable healthcare plan unless we have a public option. you are looking at the last guy standing here on that point the point is that everywhere bailed and they gave the president what he wanted which was no public option. insurance driven healthcare and this is the problem we have. you are trying to hybrid where there is more of a role for the government. the truth is the private insurers are still running the premiums and how much cover. that's a problem. >> you are probably right. they are bailing out because the profit isn't big enough.

the effect is total chaos. and it's going to hurt the democratic party. i could be wrong mr. kucinich. i could be wrong. >> we need to make sure the people can get into the system. i'm not happy with the way it's rolled out. >> i should take it over. i'm going toll -- >> -- the womb line is, people need healthcare. we have got to stop it where people are going bankrupt trying to get their healthcare bills paid. >> all right, dennis. thanks very much. directly ahead, "time" magazine putting governor christie on the cover with the word elephant. laura ingraham has some thoughts on that. then you're mad as hell and we have more letters from you you guys who want to vent. those reports after these messages. pain. once you feel it coming, it's almost too late.

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new jersey governor chris christie easily won re-election on tuesday night. that prompted this headline "the elephant in the room" since it's well known that governor christie is rather hefty, some people are taking aback. joining us now from washington laura ingraham. >> what are they going to call him a donkey? it's g.o.p. the grand ole party the elephant. mark halperin has that new book out they didn't mean it that way. >> are you telling me the brain thrust "time" magazine putting the elephant in the room christie silhouette doesn't know how people are going to take that? is that what you are telling me? >> o'reilly the only thing they didn't do is put the trunk on him. actually have a trunk drawn on him like a big cartoon. >> it's offensive? is it satirical? what is it? >> it's a little tongue in cheek. someone like christie he will be in good humor about. this i don't think he will care about this one bit.

>> let me ask you a hypothetical question here. i riewcial usually don't ask hypotheticals. i agree i don't think christie will be offended by it he will mock "time" smag green. >> right. who reads it. >> some overweight people will be offended by it what if you put on "time" magazine. >> rosie o'donnell or something. >> six years ago, all right, barack obama the black sheep of the democratic party. >> oh: >> this is why you have the number one cable show. you come up with those hypotheticals. >> it's the same kind of expression. >> right. >> context because he was an outsider challenging hillary clinton, all right, and a lot of the democrats didn't like that. >> a dark force in american politics. >> a dark -- anything. if you did that, "time" magazine would have been set on fire. >> of course. but this is the conversation we had, bill, back in 2008, remember, when the media turned on john mccain. remember, the years before

when he was going on the "saturday night live" shows the media lovered mccain. he had that column about john mccain in the gutter. and he wrote a piece about how he was wrong when he called john mccain honorable. because when you become the g.o.p. favorite, right? the -- begins. chris christie, i'm sure, is is going to get used to it they are going to, i better not say this, bill, pig pile on chris christie like they did with romney. like they did mccain. >> i don't disagree with that the question is -- the question becomes because christie is so good at disarming that kind of stuff and confronting it, will right wing republicans in america rally to a moderate like chris christie? do you think they will? >> i think in the end if he is the nominee absolutely. i mean, look, the tea party didn't want romney to be the

nominee, right? >> and 3 million didn't show up. 3 million fewer votes than mccain. >> they didn't want mccain to be the nominee but mccain was the nominee. the tea party types can be upset. chris christie is not conservative enough. in the end if you don't have the money and you don't have the, you know, any support in the establishment at all, you can win senate seats and you can win governorship, can you win house seats. but to win the presidency, you have got to be able to bring constituencies from both sides together. >> you are saying the conservative wing in the republican party in the end will rally behind. >> i think they want to win. i think they want to win badly. i think two terms of barack obama was devastating to our debt. devastating in many ways to this idea of a smaller more efficient government. obviously have obamacare to deal with. although you have a tea party presence that's fairly strong bill in the house of representatives, you still don't have the numbers, right, to transform government as they would like it to be transformed. so, it is either -- if it's not jeb bush, chris

christie. if you had a gun to my head right now and i had to say who would probably given recent history be the nominee, if bush wants it his or chris christie wants it his. maybe scott walker. martinez. >> a more conservative candidate up against those men. >> or many. or many, bill. and then it makes christie's job ev there are many conservatives opposing him. >> all right, laura. thanks very much as always. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. jesse watters goes to the least sexy college campus in america. that should be interesting. and ms. megyn kelly on the supreme court deciding whether prayer should be allowed in town council meetings. another christmas win for ms. megyn and myself. we hope you stay tuned to those reports. if you think a prune is a prune, you haven't tried sunsweet, the amazing prune.

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they started this foundation. they are providing half a million dollars to usc anninberg center people will promote obamacare to these writers and producers trying to get -- put it in their descroints try to get more young people and hispanics. >> they want to build it into the entertainment obamacare is great? >> this is a bigger story. that is that well point has a lot riding on obamacare. they are a major player. >> it's a corporate trick? that's what it is. >> i'm not somebody who says that normally and i used to work in the insurance industry myself. the company says it stands to make $20 billion. >> off obamacare. >> off of obamacare by 2016. >> it's a trick, heather. >> letter number 2 comes from marilyn. i'm upset that governor christie gave in and withdrew his appeal on the gay marriage issue. i thought he was a man who stood behind his beliefs so. why did christie fold on gay marriage? >> i think it's about politics, right? chris christie may be looking to the 2016 election and chris christie wants to show that he can win big in a blue state. he won by 60% of the vote.

>> new jersey is not a republican bastionian. he had to run as a moderate. he doesn't approve of gay marriage he just didn't approve the ruling itself? >> correct from last year he had voted against legislation and decided not to appeal. >> in america today if you want to get moderate and independent votes you can't be a zealot on these social issues. next letter comes from pamela nagger who says i am mad as hell when i see people in the grocery store buying lobster and over began nic food using ebt card. i am so happy that i can, as a taxpayer, supply their surf and turf dinner you can buy whatever you wanted. >> pretty much. >> you you can't buy cigarette and booze though. >> you can't buy that and household cleaners and dog food. you can buy lobster. can you buy organic foods all the stuff that's on your shopping list,you can buy. >> this entitlement is now growing faster than it's ever grown in this country

before. >> yeah. 47 million americans access. >> getting cards. >> snap benefits. that's basically food stamps. >> right. >> under these ebt cards. four years ago 33 million people. this program has just grown huge. interesting some fast food restaurants will allow people who use their ebt cards in the restaurant. >> that's right. >> jack in the box in some states. friday chicken. >> a place put them in there and you get the junk food. >> there you go. >> letter number four comes from joe sample comes from snow can washington. mad as hell that let's attorneys file thousands of frivolous lawsuits. few can afford to defend themselves. cheaper to settle it. there will be no reform. you are right about everything except the democrats because republicans allow this to go, too. attorneys give big money to political campaigns. >> yeah. >> this is obviously destroying our legal system here. frif suits. >> republicans brought up a piece of legislation that passed the house judiciary committee in september. 17 voted for it and it would

basically try do away with frivolous lawsuits. 10 voted against it all the democrats voted against it. it includes sort of the typical players. >> a scandal. >> conyers. >> scandal ruining the legal system in this country it. it is outrageous. >> finally dawn brink from san jose, california. why do we have to change our clocks twice a year? there is no good reason to do that. i am mad as hell that this is interrupting my sleep. i feel don's pain. >> if you have young kids all waking up at 5:00 in the morning getting you up. it started for agricultural reasons. the farmers liked it more light earlier in the day so they could work then. then interestingly enough, during world war ii they brought it back and world war i to save fuel for the war effort. they called it war time. >> so if you go to bed early because it gets dark at a:530 and go to bed 6, 6:30 you turn off the lights so you are not using electricity. heather likes it. >> and then of course the

1970s the oil embargo, now it shows we use more. >> arizona is the only state that doesn't do this. arizona does not change their clocks. joe, if you move to arizona, you are going to get more sleep. >> see you tomorrow morning at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning. >> bright and early. >> if you are mad as hell. we want to know that. email us at foxnews.com. we come right back, megyn kelly on whether americans can pray in town meetings and another win for christmas. ms. megyn is next. ch airline, s? [ passenger ] united. whoa taxi! [ british accent ] what airline, then? [ passenger ] united. all right. [ spanish ] what airline? [ passenger ] united. ♪ [ mandarin ] which airline? [ passenger ] united. [ arabic ] which airline? [ passenger ] united. [ italian ] where are we going? [ passenger ] united. [ male announcer ] more stinations than any other airline. [ thai ] which airline do you fly? [ passenger ] united. [ male announcer ] that's great, big world frieny. ♪

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thanks for staying with with us i'm bill o'reilly. supreme court hearing a case about prayer at town meetings. >> it is my prayer this evening that everyone here in any sort of leadership position, whether a politician, a parent, or even a pastor would lead according to the example of shepard leadership from the great shepard himself jesus christ, in his name i pray. >> i feel that the town has aligned itself by christianity by just having christian prayer givers. they have had a couple other people but primarily it's christian. >> all right. here now to analyze fox news anchor megyn kelly you see

her after the factor 9 eastern time she used to cover the supreme court. so this case was brought by which group? >> by an atheist and a just. >> two -- jew. >> two individuals. >> supported by people who like separation of church and state. >> it got all the way up to the supreme court. >> it did because there is a precedent from the 80's that said you can have a prayer before a legislation session and there is nothing unconstitutional about that but there has been some cure kerr kerr flufl. we are not going to get clarity. believe it or not, the justices really seemed to wrestle with whether that precedent that says you can have prayer before a legislative meeting is valid. is still valid. they got up there and said look, we have been doing it since the beginning of this country, and the judges seemed to reject that as a basis for upholding that principle. >> he they already made a decision. are they saying that the decision they made was

erroneous? >> they seemed to be questioning whether they are going to live with this ruling that they made in 1983. if they don't li with this ruling in 1983, we could literally be at the point where the small towns cannot open up -- >> -- the supreme court of the united states of america might ban an elective prayer? >> yes. that is possible. i don't think they will, based on how they did it because they seemed to, after wrestling through it and thinking what are the alternatives and thinking how could we land this, they seemed to come back we should probably leave it intact because what a mess if we get involved in this. >> it's a speech issue and everything else. i think to be fair you should have rotating prayers from anybody -- >> -- anybody could come. in fact, we had somebody who was jewish come. we had a when i cannen priest come. >> wicken came. >> what did she say? he said she prayed to apollo. >> the god of the sun? is that apollo he? >> was it apollo -- >> all right. >> they awill you. that look, it was mostly christian because the town is 0% christian. the people who volunteered tended to be christian.

>> so your prediction is they are going to leave it the way it is. i hope they do. i don't like all this attack on religion. >> it is not a guarantee. >> okay. you may remember virginia tech massacre happened in 2007. 30 dead. some lone nut killed them. the state of virginia settled with 28, 11-million-dollar settlement in 2008. two people, two families continued their lawsuit, but now he they are not going to get anything? >> they opted out of the settlement and continued their lawsuit and apartments 4-million-dollar judgment. >> 4 million each or for both? >> each. but it was reduced to 100,000 by the appellate court. now it's gone up to the virginia supreme court. and the virginia supreme court has thrown it out all together. >> on what grounds? >> saying the university could not foresee -- their argument was that the shooter whose name i will not say, the shooter killed somebody in the morning and then three hours later showed up at the building where he did most of the killing. and their argument, the

plaintiff's argument was that the school should have notified the student body in those three hours and their children wouldn't have been in that building. >> so the bottom line. >> the supreme court said no. >> 28 of the victims' families got compensation. the two that rejected the compensation, didn't get anything. that's going to hold. >> that's the way it works when you opt out of a settlement. >> you may remember when we last left ms. megyn on the factor last thursday we talked about the school district in bore done town. terrorizing the kids. telling them they couldn't sing christmas carols. there was a key moment this that discussion. do you remember what the key moment was. >> what was it. >> when you threatened to go there and sing. >> that's right. kelly is a lawyer. she basically just remembered it i threatened to go down there. and then. >> though strong armed tactics. >> as soon as that got out what happened? >> this is how it's done in left town. i'm going to make an offer you can't refuse. they folded to their credit. they folded. old candice who -- let's be

honest you wasn't sure whether she was a woman or man when we put her picture. >> constance not -- >> -- same thing. >> you she decided you were right and she was wrong. >> now they can sing in the christmas carol. >> for now the fourth and fifth graders are allowed to sing the christmas carols at their winter concert. but, the overall policy, it's still under review. >> under review? >> um-huh. >> do you think they should invite you and me down there to help? >> how about i will dance if you sing. okay. i think -- kelly and o'reilly should come down, first of all, inject a nice bit of irish stuff. >> that's right. >> and help with the review. >> we could sing a little. we could open up the session with a little irish music. >> a little tour. >> we could do a little jig like river dance how high you can lift your knee.