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>> we'll see that. is it for "forbes on fox." have a great weekend. thank you for watching. keep it here. the business block continues with eric bolling and "cashin' in." get well, annie. get well soon. the apology after the pledge. did president obama just join this club? >> no one in the white house staff, no one in this administration, presently employed was involved in this very bizarre incident. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. >> if you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. period. >> all broken promises, and backtracking. but will this one be the most costly to america and then talk about rewarding failure. the government awarding millions in two contracts to the same company behind the glitch-ridden obamacare
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website. is this d.c. incompetency at its worst? plus, snooped on and now swindled. not only is the government spying on you, the c.i.a. said to be shoveling your tax money to at&t. can you hear me now? "cashin' in." keeping track of your money. starts right now. hi, everyone. i'm eric bolling. welcome to "cashin' in." the crew, wayne rogers, jonathan hoenig, michelle fields, juan williams. welcome, everybody. talk about the words coming back to bite you. >> if you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. period. >> then the president back pedaled this week saying this -- >> what we said is you could keep it. if it hasn't changed since the law passed. >> and now he is apologizing, trying to clean up his own mess. >> i am sorry that they are
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finding themselves in the situation based on assurances they got from me. >> he has been lying for four years, lies are racking up, costs are racking up. michelle, you are not buying this, are you? >> not at all. he knew this would happen since 2010 and he did nothing about it. now the american people are paying the price for it. if you look at the state of delaware, it cost taxpayers $4 million to set up obamacare in delaware. you know how many people signed up so far? four people. that means we are paying $1 million per enrollee. no one is signing fun for thing. the reason why they cannot afford it. the commonwealth fund released a study this week. they look and they found that almost half the people who went to the obamacare website said the reason they didn't sign up they couldn't find a plan that was affordable. no one can pay for this. >> wayne, when you tell someone something for four yearous can keep your plan and your doctor, you have been saying it for four years and
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then this week he comes out and says, i didn't say it that way. is he lying? this is a big lie, isn't it? >> eric, i'm not sure that he fully understood it. you know it's 2800-page law. i don't know that the president is that smart. all due respect. he is a bright guy. but you don't read 2800 pages and come out with what he said. the congress didn't read it. nobody read it. nobody knows what is in the law. he doesn't know what is in the law. how can he make the promises? i'm not sure that he was deliberately lying. i could have been -- >> no, that's not true. >> let me finish. i'm not sure it wasn't just total ignorance. now once he said it and if he was quoted, yes, that is a lie. >> i think there is no way you can't call at it lie when he said i didn't really say it. hold on. i want to get to juan. juan, is it more disturbing that the president knew and lied about it for four years or as wayne points out he probably didn't even know? >> you know, i just sit here and marvel at you guys because i think there is nothing that
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this president can do that will satisfy the critics and people that want to trash obamacare. so fine. i thought he was exceedingly kind to say you know what? if he misled somebody, he was wrong and he will try to make it right. he has his people looking at it. the idea that oh, you know what? there is nothing wrong with insurance in this company? oh, yeah, we don't have catastrophe that drive people to bankruptcy. >> hold on, hold on. hold on, wayne -- >> john, go ahead. >> deception is not okay. think about the language. we're in it together, the brother's keeper. the president would have said anything, done anything to get this law passed. what this law was, as we talk about for years is government control over healthcare. the threat he made to insurance companies the brazen lies, the promises he made to millions of people about free healthcare that is now more costly? fundamentally all of obamacare is lie.
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based oba marxist ideology that dictatorship is better for anybody. it's not. except for the ruling class which is exempt from during >> respond. had president obama been honest about what the law was, juan, they probably would haven't passed. probably would never get through congress. >> remember, not one republican -- because they were intent on blocking it. they believe it's social -- socialism. this wouldn't have killed it at all. the contrary, when people look at programs like social security, medicare, medicaid. they can't get enough of it. >> let me throw something up here. the first full screen. this is fact checker fact checking the promises. obama said you can keep the healthcare plan if you choose to. four pinocchios.
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the next screen. fact checker is one step further. lately the liberals around town is saying you know what? it's the insurance company up at the the reason they're losing insurance. 100 million that may lose insurance. the fact checker gives them three pinocchios on that. john? >> that is just it. juan loves to come here every week and talk about how the evil, greedy insurance and the for-profit doctors wrecked supposed free healthcare in the country. that wasn't the case at all. government paid for more than half of healthcare spending and it's going up and up and up with more government control. the real cost isn't in dollars. it's in the loss of liberty. give me liberty or give me death. not give me free healthcare or give me death. that's what the founders understood that the president and the many elected officials do not. >> i have to get to the full screen. show me the full screen of the map. this is a scary map. michelle, retake this. this is the map of the united states showing 4 million people so far, so far have been canceled off the healthcare plans.
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the estimates are rising. president obama may have known that 93 million people may have been canceled at this point in time and it could go up to 100 million. >> he did know that. a report came out last week said his political aides went up to him and said this is not being very honest and they went ahead and cracked talking points to make sure he said it without explaining fully what was about to happen. he did know that and he was dishonest. the real problem here is the group that is going to be hurt the most with obamacare is the middle class. they are making too much money they can't qualify for the federal subsidiaries yet they don't make enough to pay for rising premiums without suffering because of it. >> wayne, jump in? >> this speaks to what i earlier said. nobody knows anything about this. people talk as if oh this is a plot by the democrats to get it done and they hate the president. on the other side they say the on it. nobody has read the act.
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the people we elected we invest with the authority -- >> but -- >> shut up a second. and they don't allow the people to read and understand it. >> we're going to leave that. not edit it out. i want to ask juan something. >> to speaker pelosi's point you will read it to understand what is in it. it didn't matter. the point government control over healthcare. if the president is sold sorry, he is not sorry enough to reverse the decision of the government healthcare. that is okay. it's just the website. the point was to get government control. that he accomplished. >> i have to do this. i have to -- >> hold on, juan. this is quickly. president obama time and time again said he passed a law and the average family health insurance premiums will go down by $2,500. pull up the full screen. this is what has happened since president obama signed the act in law. $2,500 increase.
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not decrease to the average family insurance premium. quickly, juan, you want to respond? >> sure. well, first of all, it's about a month in. i don't know october 1, right? the whole thing hasn't kicked in until january 1 of 2014. you want to make judgments right now. [ overtalk ] >> hold on. let me get a point in here. jonathan, remember, this is the republican plan. this is a plan that was passed in response to hillary care, heritage, the republicans said -- >> how many republicans voted for it, juan? zero. >> this is a very hot topic. we have a lot more. coming up, the company behind healthcare democratically-elected government still -- healthcare.gov. giving them millions of taxpayers after the botched roll-out. get ready for 7 million reasons to be angry. ♪ i'm sorry ♪ so sorry i am today by luck.
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rewarding failure on your dime. they screwed up an taxpayers are still paying up, the government throwing $7 million in new contracts to the company behind the botched obamacare website. amazingly, the new deals were inked after all the problems with healthcare.gov were discovered. jonathan, uncle sam rewarding incatch tense again. >> yeah, but eric, in a free market you have to earn business. through years of competence. successful dealings and success. this is a fundamental difference between economic power like wal-mart and political power, obamacare, which only works because of a government gun. obamacare is a gun brought to healthcare. so all those decisions that millions of us will be making on our own with doctors, hospitals, what website is best is now made top down from
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government. it starts with now money going to the favorite website provider. this will lead to death panels later on. it will. >> talk about this. cgi federal got $900 million from the federal government from our government. that's a canadian firm. $300 million for the website. the most aggravating is the $7 million they got since october 1 and since they botched the rollout of healthcare.gov. >> they should have never been hired in the first place. when an average american decides to invest or spend their money in a good or service they do research. they often go to websites like yelp and read reviews. the government decides to spend hundreds of millions of dollars of the taxpayer dollars, they do absolutely no research. because if they did, they would have never done business with the company. c.g.i. was hired by canadian government to create a medical registry and the canadian government ended up walking away from the $46 million contract and firing c.g.i., because they never created the
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medical registry. they were 14 months behind deadline. and they were not doing anything. it never happened. any rational person would have seen the history and said to, we're not working with c.g.i. but the government says yes, show us the contract. sign on the dotted line. >> this week, president obama apologized for the botched rollout and we waited to see if kathleen sebelius would resign yesterday and yesterday she came to the podium and said it was botched but getting better. isn't it time for her to go? >> i don't understand what the fascination is to get her out. she in charge of the policy. not the technology. >> juan, you watch football? you watch baseball? you watch just about anywhere else, if the person in charge of the team and the team is failing, if they are in charge, don't you fire the coach at some point? >> at some point but at this point it hangs her out for no
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good reason and it wouldn't fix the problem. you said look at the average cost according to kizer is going up. the fact curve in terms of the healthcare spending nationally has gone down since 2010. i am thinking to myself that is something to say sebelius you are doing a good job here. >> stop it. >> even as a critic -- >> stop it. stop it. stop it. you know the cost curve is not going down. costs continue to rise. >> that is a fact. that is a fact. i know facts bother you guys. >> it's not that. i'll guarantee you that one is wrong. wayne, corruption and fraud in government, bigger government, more corruption more fraud? >> you made a good point. when you were talking about there must be some reason. even a child when he sticks his hand in the fire learns from the first time. the government doesn't learn because they commit the same mistake over and over. it's interesting to note michelle obama classmate at
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princeton is a high-ranking executive in the canadian firm. am i saying she did anything wrong? no. not necessarily. but it's peculiar that those things happen that somebody gets the contract. if you are in a federal district and it affects your district, you get the contract. >> john, you go. >> with all due respect who cares about the cost curve. what about your own individual life? the point to make your own life better. when government makes decision he who writes the checks make the rules. i guess you can't be outraged when government waste is $7 million on website that doesn't work because we're all cogs in the wheel for greater good. >> in liberal speak it's only $7 million. >> coming up, the c.i.a. taking a page from the n.s.a. not only are they tapping in your phone records, they are using your tax money to do it. [ male announcer ] has your phone turned you into a control freak?
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hello, everybody. it'm uma pemmaraju in washington. the death toll continues to grow in the philippines following one of the strongest typhoons to ever hit land. the red cross estimates that the death toll is at least 1200 at the point. the scene is described by one official as "horrific." and now that the typhoon is on track to hit vietnam, we'll have a live report at the top of the hour. will there be a deal on iran's nuclear program? day three of talks in geneva and no word. they are trying to get nuclear
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for exchange. we will get reaction from oliver north. the president repeated the promise over a over again if you wanted to keep your healthcare plan, you could. you will hear a story from a couple among millions of americans dropped from their plan. all this and the rest of your top stories coming up at the top of the hour. hope to see you then. stay with us. first, it was the n.s.a., and now the c.i.a. the intelligence agency reportedly paying at&t $10 million taxpayer bucks every year for your phone records. they say to help fight terror. but you still have a problem. why is that? >> n.s.a., c.i.a. and just like the t.s.a., this is security theater. this is the government fighting a real war against americans on -- honest law abiding american and unofficial war against the enemies, a decade plus after
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9/11 we can't name. are we at war against americans we need to swoop in their private information? no. we are at war with political islam, jihadism, and militant islam. but the government can't get it out of its mouth. instead we are fighting unreal war against our citizens. >> juan, what about it? are you in favor of this kind of thing? >> i'm not but i am in favor of being safe. i like that they are going to look at records. i don't have a problem with that. it's one they violate the constitution or go overboard. jonathan would agree we need to take steps to protect ourselves against those militant islamists who are trying to kill us. >> we can start with not making deals with iran. that's a good first step. >> the point is this. this is a question not of safety but a question of violating the constitution. the constitution was written by men who understood that the best protection for the people
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you have to protect from your own government. cour own government snooping and doing this thing. every time out curs, filegtae 1993-'94. hillary clinton got all the f.b.i. files. "oh, i didn't do it. it was a mistake. that wasn't supposed to happen." every time we do it, they abuse it and abuse it and abuse it. >> michelle, n.s.a. started stad the same way. one thing and they were really violating the fourth amendment rights. >> this is invasion of privacy. this is the epitny of crony capital. i. you have the big government in bed with the big business. what bothers me is that at&t wasn't given a subpoena or court order. they hand this over. they say freedom isn't free and freedom is expensive now. we know according to at&t freedom costs $10 million. >> we have to leave it here. pocket constitution. everyone should have one. thank you to michelle and juan for joining us this week. coming up, the president is
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time for what do i need to know for next week? wayne, you're up first. >> i likearmer daniels midland. in the commodity business. you know they trade all over the world. i think that the commodity craze will be on us in the next five years. >> john? >> not going to happen. what is going to be upon sus higher interest rates. they have been moving higher all year, eric. higher on friday. i think security like float like ftsl, floating rate fund. anything the benefits from the higher rate. that's where to be. >> great call, especially when what is going on with the ecb in new york. fantastic week. thank you. that's it for cost of freedom block. thank you for joining us. before we go we opened the show explaining the highs president obama and his
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minions perpetrated on america. they lieded about keeping your insurance, lied about premiums, lied about the website and they will surely lie about how many people are enrolling. the whole big thing one big lie. folks, it really speaks volumes about a man's character when he chooses to lie rather than take responsibility. there is one thing that president obama did not lie about, though. >> we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the united states of america. >> that's right. on october 30, 2008, then senator obama about to become president obama promised to fundamentally transform our great country from capitalist power house to a liberal wasteland. rife with redistribution and social progressivism. he is trying to do that but i'm trying to fight for conservatism and capitalism along the way. see you on "the five." have a great weekend, everybody. ♪
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♪ nightfall in philippines where the conditions are dire and the people of the country are reeling from shock, as they mourn the victim from the worst typhoon to ever hit land. so far, the red cross estimates that 1200 people have died. that number is expected to rise. as crews reach remote areas and search regions and the devastation is described as "horrific." making matters worse we have news another storm is approaching that region. let's get to dana piper -- david piper streaming live for us from bangkok. david? >> hi, uma. the true scale of the death and destructio
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