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>> the media are demanding answers on obamacare. >> it is not correct. it is right for the media to say, let's straighten this out. >> bob woodward whether the press is holding the president accountable and his relationship with the "washington post" and its new owner. and we ask president obama about that broken promise on health care. >> you owe folks an apology, do
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you feel that? >> did nbc's political director do the job on let the president escape with are month spin? >> "60 minutes" apologizes for a mistake on the fatal attack at benghazi. >> we were wrong. we made a mistake. >> how did that happen? we will look at what happened. >> the pundits are swooning over chris christie after the big re-election. he is all over the sunday snows and on the cover of "time." can the romance last? this is "media buzz." >> we have a lot of hot issues on the program. we will read some of our tweets at the end of the report. a report on "60 minutes," is a huge black eye after a security
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contractor said he scale add 12' wall that was overone with al-qaeda fighters. >> one guy saw me and he shouted, i could not believe he had seen me because it was so dark. he started walking toward me. >> as he came closer? >> i hit him with the butt of the rifle in the face. he went down. >> he dropped? >> like a stone. >> was his face smashed? >> as the "washington post" reports, he had filed a report to his boss saying he could not get near the compound on the night of the attack. and now he says he lied in the report telling the daily beast he did not want the supervisor to know he disobeyed orders. >> the reporter defended this saying the program should have disclosed he where a book being published by a division of cbs.
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but on friday, "60 minutes" said they would run a correction the. >> nobody likes to admit they made a mistake. if you do, you have to stand up and take responsibility and you have to say you were wrong. in this case, we were wrong. we made a mistake. >> what happened? "new york times" reported that davies told the f.b.i. he did not go to the compound directly his account to "60 minutes." >> now we know that he told the f.b.i. a different story than what he told us. that was the moment for us when we realized we no longer had confidence in our source and we were wrong to put him on air and we apologized to owe viewers. >> joining us is fox news contributor who writes the top twitter column for foxnews.com. >> we have contributing editor at "member conservative magazine
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," and dana milbank. >> what did they do? >> they stonewalled and did not open their mouth. it always leads to more questions from the media as the media should know, however, they bet all their marble on a guy who lied to them. they said they had systems in place to do it. the apology was rockstar. >> given the response of the beach -- benghazi story, the credibility of the witness has collapsed. how bad? >> a bad mistake. they had the book publisher from the same division so they knew they would make a lot of money but also what needs to be told is the story of the pressure that the independent groups like media matters but on "60 minutes." hillary clinton pushing back on
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everything on benghazi including questions of the timeline of the night and where the mohammed video came from, those questions are being stopped by an enormous amount of pressure from independent groups on behalf of hillary clinton. if the story was wrong as it appears, isn't the prior pressure warranted? >> yes, any story that any network or journalist does, that gets the coverage. >> when they apologized and the chairman of cbs news and also the executive producer of "60 minutes," he said we have to own this and said it is a black eye and he said this is as big a mistake as ever has been made on "60 minutes." how do they put this on the airbased on one guy writing a book who told his boss he wasn't there that night?
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>> well, they put a lot of credibility in one person which we know is dangerous. one someone goes to such length over a long period of time, you can have more confidence in that person. there is a lot of issues here internally, whether "60 minutes" has enough of a relationship with the news division. there are people in cbs who probably could have done something to prevent this in the first place. this is really a case as jim would agree, of the conservative mainstream media getting the story wrong. >> i have to take you on about this. i disagree. i think "60 minutes" is the gold standard for news and jeff is an amazing producer and has worked his way up. laura started in 2002 and has put herself in harm's way. i'm not saying mistakes weren't made but i think to say that someone in the news division
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could have seen this is offing. >> there a phenomenon of group think, when you are convinced the story is real, all the evidence that could disconfirm the belief is ignored. >> there are more resources cbs could have brought to bear which could have been used. >> fox news producer spoke to the source several times but stopped talking to the guy when he asked for money. fox said it stands by the benghazi reporting and it is an important story. to wrap this up it was "60 minutes" that, too, had the dan rather george bush national guard story. is this in the same class? >> actually, a former cbs news reporter was quoted by reporter of "washington post" saying it is not as big a deal. what made that powerful was that rather was obsessed with
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destroying the bush family. this is just, look, cbs took a little while to admit the mistake but in three or four days they owned it. though apologized. >> as cbs said it will be a blip. >> he said "you have to say you were wrong and in this case we are wrong." that kind of apology give you a lot credibility. >> better apology because unlike the case of dan rather who was ordered to apologize, everyone now at "60 minutes" recognizes it was a screwup. president obama is under a lot of pressure over the health carol out in his famous promise if you like your plan you can keep it sat down with nbc report other. >> do you feel like you owe the folks an apology for misleading them, they feel mislead the you have seen the anger. >> i reyet -- regret very much
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what we intended to do we were not as clear as we need to be the i am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurance they got from me. >> the president went to a guy with msnbc and how did he do? >> it was a semi apology. he asked some tough questions about health and human services secretary sebelius and about the website, did you know certain things? when did you know it? he bobbed on that. >> he mentioned a chicago tribune columnist who called the president ally arrest. >> that is from the hometown tribune. he said a lot of liberals were not happy. my point is that this is a 25 minute interview and we saw clips from the interview and the of supers are done very differently when they are not live than a live interview.
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you have much more time. they both looked more conversational than you would in a confrontational interview. >> jim, this was big news but not so much in the "new york times" as it was else y. >> "new york times" had tried to spin it for the president saying he "misspoke." >> that was the editorial. >> that is the flag ship of liberalism. four days before on the front page, millions eligible for free policies. i thought the few of the mat not to put that story on page as most newspapers did, was either a misjudgment or denial. do you agree? >> i would. the back story was, look, sebelius is not equipped for the job and the president, six weeks into it -- the gold standard for presidential apology is john f. kennedy in 1961 after the bay of pigs he went on tv and said i am the responsible officer of this
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government. period. that -- the 308s -- the polls went up after that. >> the apology looks forced. it did not seem sincere. but the larger picture, maybe the instance with "new york times" this president has been pummeled for three or three weeks by the we media. it has been relentless. between that and the cbs story that turned out to be false going after the administration on benghazi, we should be sitting back and say, wait, what is this about the liberal mainstream media? >> aren't you one of those people in the media? >> absolutely. >> and people on your side, they are not lying the president's apology because he never said, yes i misled the country or i'm sorry.
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he talked about impact of his words. it is about hundreds of thousands of people, 3.5 million, being kicked off the insurance rolls by plans they thought they could keep. >> lot of journalists and thinkers on the left are feeling that they were lied to and this administration knew this was not going to be the case. maybe the people did not investigate that enough at the time. there is a lot of anger now that they were sold a bill of goods. >> it is the insurance company's fault. >> i thought you were going to praise dana for his candor. >> when we come back, the media going gaga. what is behind this romance? and bob woodward on his strained relations with the white house.
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when chris christie won a land slide re-election this week, the pundits were immediately talking him up. >> i think chris christie is an ined cancerble candidate. >> the guy who rose above politics, the guy who was willing to work with president obama. >> there's a coronation going on today for chris christie. >> and today, the new jersey governor not exactly in hiding, hitting four sunday morning shows. >> are you a moderate or a conservative? >> david, listen, i don't get into these labels. that's the washington, d.c. game and what all those men and women down there play. >> governor, what do you think of ted cruz and rand paul?
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>> what i'm not going to get into the washington, d.c. game that you're trying to get me into. >> i think we've established he's not going to play the washington, d.c. game. there's about 12 other references to that. is christie getting press in part because mainstream reporters like his views better was as opposed to ted cruz? >> i did win a big victory in a media intense state. but i think you're on to something, and that is the media, i predict, will love christie, find his interesting, and then at the moment where he actually gets -- if he gets the nomination against hillary clinton, they'll say, enough, we were happy to use him as a hammer on the conservatives, ted cruz and whoever, but now that it's christie versus hillary, you're going to go with hellry. >> so you're predicting a turn in the -- >> right. a couple years to go. and he gives access.
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he goes on sunday shows. he held a press conference this week, went on for an hour, it could have gone on for four. that's so different than mitt romney who is like talking to the reporters is talking to the dentist. >> well, i'm not going to get into this washington game, but i will say -- >> you're off the show. >> people find christie refreshing because whether he is or not, he sounds like a truth teller. this is the build up phase for christie. there will be a knockdown phase. it's the same thing that happened with hillary clinton. puffed up and knocked down. the media build up chakt areas, marco rubio earlier, only build them up to knock them down. >> why are journalists swooning over this governor? >> because he's not sitting in a studio and says those scripted answers, although you did hear him say the same thing over and over again. >> he was much more cautious.
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>> he was. he needed a cup of coffee. by tend of his fourth interview, he had more momentum. but here is guy who will say when he's on an interview, sit your rear-end down. you're going to get thrown in jail. he just talks like a tough guy and that is refreshing for journalists. >> how about this time cover? there's been a lot of talk about it holding up. the elephant in the room. >> ridiculous. >> ridiculous? >> ridiculous. >> you were offended by this? >> here is a guy you're setting up to be president of the united states and you make a fat joke about him on the cover of "time" magazine? it's just to create buzz, sell magazines. on the inside, he said and guess what? he's a workhouse with a temper and a tongue, a guy that loves his mother and gets it done. but it was a cheap shot. >> time is into selling magazines. and guess who else wasn't terribly ovened by it. >> who cares? i mean, seriously, i'm on the
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cover of "time" magazine, you know? it is certainly not the first weight joke that has been thrown my way over the course of the last four years, chris. >> did you get that? who cares? >> i will say this. that "time" magazine cover reminds me of a recent "newsweek" which did ever more and more outrageous covers as it was circling the drain into oblivion. i think they were trying to be as provocative as pbl.that's a little bit irresponsible. >> will there be more and more stories if christie becomes more of a player about his weight and about his temperament? i think we all think it's charming now that he wags his finger. mccain went through this, too, will he say gee, does he have the temperament to sit in the oval office? >> and christie makes mccain
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look like milk toast. i think there will be more questions about that and about his weight where people are saying, is this guy healthy enough to be in the oval office? health is an issue. >> but he's also getting thinner. >> he had the secret lap band surgery which turned out not to be so secret. >> all right. thanks very much for joining us on sunday. still ahead, my sit down with bob woodward. but up next, rand paul blames msnbc's rachel maddow as he responds to allegations of
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msnbc's rachel maddow had a contentious interview with rand paul and she's bl been at it again accusing the senator of lifting lines from a movie no
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one has heard of. >> in the not too distance future, engistics is common and that line appears almost verbatim in the wikipedia entry. >> paul dismissed that and a second allegation involving wikipedia as a technical matter, criticized maddow and he let loose on abc's "this week." >> do you concede at least this is pretty sloppy? >> the footnote police have been dogging me for the last week. i will admit that. and i will admit sometimes we haven't footnoted things properly. i take it as an insult and say people cannot call me dishonest, misleading or misrepresenting. i have never intentionally done so. if dueling were illegal, but i think i'm being targeted by
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hacks and haters. >> but then another issue, the website washington times reporting that some of the language had been verbatim lifted from "the week" magazine. mandatory sentencing began in response to a growing endemic. america's prison population has tripled to 2.4 million. america now jails a country, including china and iran, at a staggering cost of $08 billion a year. here is what senator rand wrote. america's prison population has quadrupled to 2.4 million. america now jails a higher percentage of its citizens than any other country, including china and iran at the staggering cost of $80 billion a year. the senator told national review that if he were a journalism teacher for taking the coverage
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of msnbc and the associated press, he would have failed them. the plagiarism was real and attacking the media doesn't change that. send me a tweet at this hour about our show. ahead on media buzz, bob woodward on his latest crash with the white house, his view of the obama care mess and his relationship with jeff bezos. that's next on media buzz. weap.
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now back to "media buzz." >> bob woodward has reported on every president since richard nixon. now the editor has been clashing with the obama white house. how does its handling of the media compare to previous administrations? i spoke to him earlier here in studio one. >> bob woodward, welcome. >> thank you. you concluded in your book "the price of politics" that president obama had failed to lead.
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now we're hearing that he failed to lead on nsa foreign surveillance, didn't know the details, we're hearing that he failed to lead on the obama carolout, has it taken the media too long to reach this analysis? >> well, you've got to be empirical about it. and that's not to take the republicans off the hook for all the budget problems. but the president has to find a way to work his will. as you recount all of this, and as i do, you see that the president is the one who calls people to the white house. they don't call him to the congress. and -- >> but it's more -- >> he has the hammer. >> you as an author had to reach a conclusion. and some people criticize you for that. i understand even today some in the white house are not that happy with bob bood woodward's reporting. >> yeah. they said i started it. >> started what? >> started this idea of he's got
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to lead. and he's too passive at times on these budget issues. >> is this white house telling you that's not accurate? are they angry? are they blaming you for this? >> as you know, no one likes to be criticized and called out. but they deal with reporters. i think the temperature is going up right now. there is more .more criticism on the president's comments on obama care, that, you know, if you like it, you'll keep it. and somebody has found 29 times that he said that and -- >> i've seen it at least 29 times on the air. but on that point, you were on meet the press with david, no longer works in the white house, and he wouldn't quite concede that that was a mistake, the president used the wrong language. it almost seems like the press is trying to pull out of this
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administration. it's an admission that this was, at the very least, misleading and they don't want to go there. >> no, they don't. and on that show and it's been said a number of times, going back to 2009 when the president made a mistake on one of the cabinet nominations, he came out, went public and said i screwed up. end of quote. and i think they should do that. this obviously is a miscalculation or a screw-up and it's not correct and i think it's right for the media to kind of say, let's straighten this out. you know, millions of people are going to have to decide on their health care insurance and if the becomes a political football, oh, you can do this, no, you can't do that, it only adds to the confusion. and i think that's not in the interest of the president. i think it's possible they can if it fix this and work it out.
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>> i would say the tone of the coverage has turned much more aggressive. you see it in the jay carney briefings, in the coverage of the obama carolout. but a lot of people think too passive until now. >> i've never been too passive in writing about the president. >> no one is saying you. >> but i think it is true. look, the message, managers in the white house have great sway with reporters. as you know, the people who run the daily beat have to write three or four stories or broadcasts all day .they need somebody they can talk to in the white house. and if the white house doesn't like what they're doing, the phone calls aren't returned and somebody can't really do their job in a way that they need to. >> is this white house more intimidating or as intimidating as some of the past administrations that have played hard ball with the press? >> no. look, they all play hardball that's their job. but we are in this situation now
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where with the cable news coverage and the internet and the impatience and speed driving everything, give it to me now, give me the sound bites that, you know, you've got to live in that world. i don't, quite frankly, and try to spend a year or more on something and get the detail and the notes and the memos that really explain what they're saying to each other in the process. and i think when you examine that, it makes your head hurt, that this isn't a government that's working. >> you touched on something important about journalism, which is that journalism is increasingly moving online, what works online are blog posts and lists and tweets, reading along investigative report on the internet can be a slog. so does that make it harder? you have in a position where you can write books and take your time. does that make it harder to do this in-depth work in this era of, as you say, give it to me
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now? >> yeah, it does. and you can work for months on things or even a year and it goes up in the ether. and you may get more attention by something you say on television or something you say on the tweet. so it's a different world, but we're going to keep doing the in-depth work and, you know, the president is going to get a fair shake. i mean, i think on the last round of budget talks, the republicans and the shutdown, the republicans really did try to blackmail and as they had earlier. you can't have a negotiation where somebody says, you know, i'm going to extract things from you as speaker boehner did, that i would not normally get by holding the debt ceiling hostage. >> some of the president's detractors compare every scandal to watergate, with which you are familiar with.
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irs was worth that watergate. it was said yesterday obama care is worse than watergate. wa do you make of those comparisons? >> it's like all these people walking around washington who are going to be president and never exactly made it. you can't predict and it depends on the information. >> even watergate wasn't watergate originally. it took many months for the magnitude of the crimes to be revealed. in other words, it wasn't like it exploded on day one. >> it took two years, two months before nixon resigned. so, you know, little patience. but i think we need to be in a really aggressive mode and look at these things. take obama care now. yeah, you need to look at the government, but you know what the big issue is? the insurance companies. what's going on? how are they looking at this? i tell you, they know how to measure profits and they're --
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that's the lens through which they're seeing this. so we better look at the insurance companies as hard as we've looked at the white house. >> what about syria? there was a time when that dominated the news and the president looked like he was going war and then he went the diplomatic route. and we've kind of moved on. did the media suffer from add? >> yeah, of course we do. and -- but you have to deal with what's porcht now and what happened in syria. put it on hold. there are negotiations going on trying to -- in actual apparently i emphasize apparently destruction of chemical weapons and we went from we're going to have a tax to we're going to go to congress to now it's in the hands of vladimir putin. >> you've been spending more time lately at the washington post, i am told, and you've been there as long as i've known you
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and we once worked at the same paper. that is in part because of the new owner, jeff pezos. what is your relationship with him? do you think he has not just the bank book, but the web smarts to revitalize the franchise? >> i've known him for years. i think cease serious, had discussions with him. he believes in an independent newspaper and i think it's great that the post picked him to sell to. i think it's truly sad that it has to happen, but you need somebody with that much money to rely on stockholders. i'm not -- you know, i have the little corner i see. i trust him. i think people at "the
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washington post" trust him to hold -- you know, it's a stewardship of -- a newspaper is not just, you know, some product that goes out there. >> it's a public trust. >> yes. it's more than that, actually. >> recently in spending more time at the newspaper, you are trying to do what? >> i'm trying to help with stories, work on stories, i've done some stories, working on things. again, we are in the world where i don't think we know enough about what is really going on in government. government is hidden in secretive. i think we should have that we're going to have secret government and i often quote the judge who said that democracies die in darkness. so let's hope we don't have darkness. let's hope we have a really tough press that goes in there and doesn't give up on all of these questions. >> and your grand salary at the newspaper is? >> oh, $25 a month.
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but i make money from books and -- i think you should ask bezos for a raise. >> no. he told me that he thought it was worth every dollar. >> bob woodward, thanks very much for joining us. >> after the break, twitter goes public. is it really worth all those billions? and does it provide an accurate snapshot of public opinion? that's next in our digital download.
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twitter went public this week, a far more successful debut than the rollout for facebook. >> wall street now valuing twitter as more than $30 billion, this for a company that didn't exist eight years ago and is now worth more than time warner, yahoo! general dynamics or general mills. >> these ipos drive me crazy. if you're connected to the company or one of the big brokerages, you can get in early and make all this money and everybody else is out of luck by the time they get in. >> all this money, $60 million went to the underwriters. the founders, jack dorsey and ed williams are now billionaires and there are 1600 more mill heirs living in silicone valley. but those are deserved. those are the rank and file engineers who have been working there tails off or their wings off, i guess. >> but is this company -- i mean, $30 billion, worth more
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than companies that actually make things? it seems to me like it's maybe -- and i love twitter, but maybe it's a little overvalued by the market? >> well, of course it's overvalued. but actually, if you look at the numbers, they could have made more and they chose not to. they sold 70 on million shares at $26 a share. they could have sold them at $41 a share. but they didn't want to be facebook. they didn't want to have the problems that facebook had. >> but even at this valuation, it seems to me like twitter has to make a lot of profits, it has to grow far more quickly than it has to now, and thaits that's going to be difficult. as much as journalists love it, a lot of on people are puzzled by it. what is it? it doesn't feel like something that's central to their lives. >> i was talking to someone in silicone valley and they said to me twitter has to go from being a product, something that you use, to a business. and the problem is that the business doesn't exist. they don't have enough revenue streams at this point in their
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early development. they only have $500 million of profit. . >> i want to mention this new pugh study which found twitter is not a good poll of public opinion. that skews the value of figuring out what's trending there. >> right. and the value, it turns out, really isn't there when it comes to public opinion. ron paul -- this is what the pugh study says -- easily won the twitter primary. easily won it? he got clobbered. he said 55% of the conversation about him was positive, 16% was negative. sglafr the newtown tragedy, 64% of the conversation supported stricter gun controls and that was not reflected in the rest of the country. so we have to take it with a grain of salt. it's still a valuable portal into what people are saying. >> one in ten people in the united states get their news through twitter. it has to be more than that for this to continue to be a viable company. but tech engineers right now in
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san francisco, if you want to start a company, ride the ipo twitter wave. it's a good time. people are going to invest. >> what's your sense of who is on twitter based on the what you're writing? >> i find a lot of politicians are on, a lot of journalists, a lot of pundits, a lot of people who hate other people. a lot of snark right now. but i would love for you to tell me, are you using twitter? how do you use twitter? do you find it a valuable tool? if you don't, twit er is going to have a very hard time moving forward. ahead on media buzz, a toronto newspaper paid for that chilling video the city's crack mayor ranting about killing someone. did that cross the line?
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politicians are vulnerable in this video age. toronto mayorford has gone viral for some truly bizarre behavior. for months he denied what was reported that their journalist had seen a video of the mayor smoking crack cocaine. after police obtained the video ford add milted he had, in fact, smoked crack and said reporters hadn't asked the question the right way or something. he was apologizing the other day after toronto star had a video of this strange and disturbing rant. >> we wore out the bleep button. star paid $5,000 from a source from another computer. the rival refused to pay. purchasing the video was like purchasing book excerpt and not paying the source for
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information. that's a stretch. hard to argue this glimpse of a mayor out of control wasn't news worthy for the people of toronto. still to come, tweet, espn, nfl bullying and fox news journalist heads to court to protect her confidential sources in a big murder case. [ grunts softly ]
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apologizing for benghazi story. glad they were shamed into it by the truth. hole be fired? cbs prattles about accountability. do it once, i can't trust you never again. they know he's in the eyes of the tea party. he'll demoralize base in an election and be a pushover for hillary. they told mccain they loved him until the elections, then they gave him an obama wedgie. fox news reporter janna winter is heading to new york's state court to protect confidential sources. her reporting on aurora. she broke the story james holmes sent his psychiatrist a notebook before going on the rampage that left a dozen people dead last year. winter who lost a lower court ruling in the case is arguing
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new york with its strong shield law for journalists should quash the subpoena requested by holmes team. what i find unconscionable an accused mass murderer could put her in prison for doing her job. a tip of the hat to espn for an important story that led to suspension of incognito for bullying another player jonathan martin. >> identified incognito in multiple incidents over the past two seasons involving martin and other players. >> sports network also disclosed incognito left his teammates vile and racist messages including n word. he regrets racist slurs. espn has lucrative contracts but it didn't stop them. >> good for them. >> what was fascinating about the story. we had a lot about bullying,
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cyber bullying, the guy that left the team, martin, 300 pounds. >> he's a lineman. i talk to my children about bullying and they hear it in school ad nauseam. to watch this unfold is sad. it doesn't end in grade school. >> bullying can take place anywhere. anybody can be a victim. while there's more to learn about the story, again, tip of the hat to espn for cracking this case. you wonder what's more to it. that's it for this edition of media buzz, lets continue the conversation on twitter. give us a like on facebook, we're on there every day responding to questions. check out the home page. e-mail us, back next sunday morning 11:00 eas >> it is money die november 11th. a typhoon kills an estimated 10,000 people. we will have the latest on the rescue and recovery effort on the ground.
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>> days after coasting to a second term win, new jersey govern northerly chris christie goes on an all out media blitz. what he had to say about the obamacare debacle and his 2016 bid for the presidency. >> bully p controversy turning into a he said she sai-- he sai. jonathan martin is just as much to blame for the case. >> good morning. you are watching fox and friends first on this monday morning. >> i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather childers. thank you to all of you veterans out there. we appreciate your service. >> fox news alert while you were sleeping a weakened typhoon made
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