of what we should do. tonight. >> hello everyone. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." >> you know, things must be really grim at the white house when bill clinton is criticizing work on obamacare. this story can be so depressing it helps to laugh about it. for that we have to face south park. a little managerial advice from them for the president on how to deal with p doing their job. >> i hired a new faculty member

whose seoul responole responsib be to oversee the system and make sure it runs smoothly. >> hello yifr one. >> this system you are responsible for now isn't working out, so what the hell are you going to do about it? >> i am just getting acclimated to the situation. >> you know how much money we wasted on this thing. how about you take some responsibility. you are fired. get out. >> here is advice from bill clinton. >> i personally believe the president should honor you can those people. >> looks like the president was back. >> i am sort of laughing. it was like they made it at home on a youtube video. >> he had porn music behind because he is always working.

>> first let's go to south park. even though you were laughing more at clinton. pretty bad when south park is going after the administration. >> for them i think the bigger part is you can look at any comedy show. obamacare has been going on for 5 months now the ridicule is setting in. now it has become ak setted you can make fun of it. bill clinton you add that on the substantive point and all of the democrat holding back criticism now they have entree to take the full step to criticize it themselves. you are seeing that not just in the polling but the comments from lawmakers like dave hoyer on the democrat side who said he is not closed minded to the idea that he said you could keep the insurance if you like it. >> what do you think is worse when south park criticizes the president so it permeates the culture people who aren't reading head street journal or

headline on the wall street journal? >> it is scary when pop culture wakes up and finally sees you are stuck. bill clinton accusing obama of breaking many promises. he has broken more promises than michael moore broke chairs. this is a weird -- i have a conspiracy. so far 50,000 people signed up for obamacare. that's the same number of obamacare navigators. the health debt for obamacare. either each navigator signed up one person or they just signed up themselves which is even more hilarious that they couldn't find anybody. how do we not know that? it could be navigators that signed up for obamacare. >> before we get into the numbers of obamacare wait a little on bill clinton. the president is in a box. bill clinton made his box even smaller. what's behind those helping his

wife butt some space between herself and obama? >> i remember press conference in the briefing room president clinton was in there. obama -- one of them wouldn't leave. i can't remember which one wouldn't leave. clinton wouldn't leave. this has been going on. it is a while in dc circles they don't get along. a lot of people are speculating why he would do that. this didn't help president obama at all. because he now hads to do something. what do you do? do you continue to have 50,000 enrollees or do you make changes? jay carney said we understand what he had to say. maybe the president is looking it all up. >> i will make one last point. he could look at it another way. bill clinton real lipped president obama today. he basically took away the dam and now the water can flow out

obama can say i am going to have to make some changes ear. it stops the guesswork out of it. it could be a forcing action. >> the only thing i thought about this i talked to different people, it would be to delay the penalty. there are a number of bills out there. mary landrieu has a bill out there. president clinton said he should honor the commitment. there's no way you can honor the commitments. you can'ten honor them. the plans are gone unless you have a time machine you can fix these mandates there is no way you can fix this thing? what do you think they are going to be doing? is>> it is nice to be back. we can bring the level of the show back to the normal excellence. first of all about clinton, there's a lot of mix in here. part of it is the animosity. i think it has more to do with hillary than anything else.

she needs that kind of breathing space. it opens the gates for others to come out. if you could delayl÷tcp it's the right thing to do let me say one thing if it is possible to open the bill up. image the debate over that? people are young people and they listen to crap like that. >> it is great crap. south park is great. funny thing is that's the benefit of south park is they are talking to the people who are getting screwed. somebody has to a lot of young people aren't going to figure this out unless they end up paying and maybe south people will get to them.

>> i know a couple of young people i don't care i am going to pay the penalty. 90 bucks. i don't care. bob talked about bill clinton trying to help out his wife and inoculate her from this bill even though i think that will be tough to do. how do other democrats do it? they tried to run this thing ask for obama about the situation. why wou how do they defend the numbers? >> they don't. there's no defensive. >> there is no way out of this. we told you the web site would be a slow rollout. we used the analogy last night the stripper with the cold sore. she is still a stripper with a cold sore. you realize what obama care is

the enrollment numbers won't come anywhere near what they expect it to be or want it to be they realize they have nothing to run on. >> my suggestion wouldn't be delay it as republicans. i would say let's get this thing over with or fix it. >> what has been successful increase in medicaid in the states where they have not screwed around with it. >> how is that successful? all you have done is put more people on the dull and no people to pay for the people. >> if we had a single payer plan everybody would be covered. >> stop calling it single care plan calli it socialism. he loves to poif vo-- pivot. he should start blaming obamacare on global warming. he should start replacing consumers with windmills that would give him the climb gnat change to get him away from

obamacare. >> i hate to get into this. >> you don't know crap about that. you want to get into that i will go head to head. >> dana, when over 3 million people. 3.2 million according to the associated press have lost their healthcare greg said 50,000 people have enrolled, how do you message this? i want to play the first clip because democrats are busy trying to figure out who to blame. ed schultz says republicans should be apologizing for this. >> it was reported in the media he has apologized to all of the people out there losing their insurance. really? i saw he was apologizing the inconvenience people will have to go through to get some real coverage. the apology should be coming from the conservatives and apologizing to the 50 million americans who have been without insurance because dam it they

didn't see it. >> what do you think about that? >> you can tell why their ratings are so bad. i couldn't watch it. i read it this morning and i had to watch it because i was intrigued by the idea of an apology. actually it's the reverse. i believe liberals should apologize to conservatives, because we were the ones that were trying to argue on the merits and to say this is not going to work, there is a better way. there's a way we can protect people who are sick and we can do this in the free market. give it a chance to let the competitive market work. conservatives were called everything from racist to, well you name any other word. i think the apology should come to us. now they actually think the conservatives should come and help them fix it. >> i was waiting a long time for an apology. conservatives have done everything they could to put a roadblock in the way. >> that's because they were right, bob. >> how do you know they are right? >> people who are watching it.

it is a disaster. best argument against obamacare is obamacare. we are watching it unfold. >> i think you owe us an apology for putting that buffoon on our air. conservatives should apologize for warning the american people it was coming? conservatives don't owe liberals an apology. >> shut up. you are wrong. 3 percent of people have enrolled. is that the conservative's fault? that's like getting your name wrong on the sat. i won't say shut up any more but you deserved it. >> how do democrats explain they lost. you have all of these people enrolling in medicaid which will cost aids a lot of money.

there are only 50,000 people enrolled now they changed the formula. this is the story out today. in order to get the numbers inflated it is not just people who purchased plans it is people who have plans in their shopping cart. you know how many shoes i have in different shopping carts on web sites across america. what if stores tried to say their stores at the end of the day were based on products we had in the shopping carts. the fed would kick down the door. >> the stim lust bill they said they were going to have jobs created and jobs saved, jobbed saved was a bogus number. the media didn't call him on it then they won't now. remember when i went to that container store when i first moved here i had a panic attack and i left everything in the cart i feel guilty. i apologize for that. i couldn't stand in line. i couldn't wait. they didn't count that as sales. >> they are padding it. why can't we pad and say we have already paid this amount of

taxes even though we hadn't. it is no different. >> or you could say i am gonna use this money to pay my taxes. i p haven't yet but i am going to. >> amazon, ebay, it doesn't work. it is like the wal-mart checkout counter until you have actually run the registry. enrollees 50,000 the first month, 5 million we are going with 5 million. i believe it estimates 5 million people have been tleen off their health insurance. the great obamacare rollout 4,950,000 fewer people with healthcare insurance one month into the system or for every one enroll knee 100 people have been thrown off. >> you had single payer. leave that go aside when you say put it back in the hands of the free market three market has 40-50 million people. now what? >> now it's 45 tofor 55 million.

>> what are you going to do about people that are uninsured? >> i have an answer for you. >> number one. remove the mandate portion of this. remove it. okay. no, no. you want to solve this. remove the mandate portion. let insurance companies sell insurance across state lines. you want a government option knock yourself out. let the government 789 get involved and under cut the insurance companies. it will drive the prices down. it's the one thing that will work. >> you have medicaid for people who are poor? >> don't make the poverty -- i should have said who can't qualify more mfor medicaid. what about the people who don't have the money to buy outrageous -- >> why don't you give them a tax credit. you know what, this was never about getting people covered. it was never about lowering premiums. it was about getting votes. that's what this thing is about. that's why it doesn't work, bob. we don't have time to play the

sound debbie schultz is saying democrats should run on this thing they should use it to their advantage. i say bring it on. i hope they do run on it. i don't see how. liberals in hollywood love to pop off about why americans need fewer guns. more guns than ever are being shown on the big screen. more hollywood hypocrisy coming right up. {off-lin {off-line} hey america, even though she doesn't need them, cheryl burke is cha-cha-ing in depend silhouette briefs for charity, to prove that with soft fabric and waistband, the best protection looks, fits, and feels just like underwear. get a free sample and try for yourself.

>> according to a new study gun violence has tripled in the last two years going from one per hour to three per hour. they blast more bullets than r rated films from way back then. goes to show you how hollywood loves their guns unless they be long to you and you use them for protection not pictures. if matt damon had to fire a real

gun he would shoot himself in his butt or head. movie crime increases. i am not sure you can blame hollywood for gun violence. how about all violence? it brews in the world of unrealistic luxury and unquenchable de fire for luxury. it is a performance for a worldwide audience from shooting up a school to punching a pedestrian to hacking a harmless family to death. the weapons are all different but the need is ever present. look at me, look at what i have done. we call the person insane but it's way worse than that. beneath it all is a pattern of entitled recognition the desire that you must be known forever. where does that come from as families and communities decline recognition finds another route in hollywood they are rewarded with wealth and sex point you there. you can't be famous for giving you can live forever by taking

away. >> i am sorry. i told you to shut up. you ticked me off about climate change. you did that on purpose. you haven't seen me for three-days you had to come at me. the tv yous watch on the computer they don't have any rating system. >> the thing about this isn't pg 13, isn't that for 13-year-olds and under watch it. the problem is a lot of the effect of this hasn't been seen. i p find it a little bit -- not against guns as i am but i don't put movies together that have guns and shoot people a lot. i think your point about violence is right. what's the under current of entitlement and violence? we know what it is liberal universities and professors. every one of them. that's why we have it. without that we wouldn't have anything. >> in fact if there weren't any liberal college professors there wouldn't be any violence. >> can i make a comment about bob's movies they have guns in them not the ones you can shoot.

>> i don't know what she is talking about. >> dana, you only watch films with cartoons in them. >> the documentaries. >> is there any link between gun violence and -- >> the video game industry has a lot of gun violence as a part of the video games, it doesn't actually compute when you look at what you pointed out which is that gun crime is downing. is it because of the 24/7 news cycle we know more about crimes and crimes that make the news. >> that's a good answer. >> i don't know. >> you are a father. does it disturb you? >> don't blame me. it wasn't me. >> does it disturb you that these movies have gotten more violent? >> no. i don't have a hard time with

that. i don't have a hard time with the videos either. i let my son watch them, play them. gun violence is going down because of the proliferation of guns. the more guns the safer the country gets. the statistics will show more americans with guns death by guns drop 20, 40 percent. in the cities where the control is less they have less use of gun violence. >> gun violence is going down because -- >> you take new york and you take chicago or you take philadelphia and take chicago the ones with the higher rigorous gun controls have higher murder rates. >> of course they have higher murder rates. >> first of all talk about a concentration you have a lot of people and major drug access markets in the world where gangs

fight each other all of the time to get near each other's heads. >> you are stating facts but you are not making your point. higher concentration of people has nothing to do with the murder rate by guns. >> if you have a house with a gun in it, let me ask you, are you going to be more apt to try to rob the house or less apt. >> felons say that's the biggest influence is whether or not it is armed. >> most people who have guns it is better to have them and not need them then need them and not have them. these hollywood celebrities they like guns because guns equal money to them. big money at the box office that's all they care about. these movies are sold worldwide in countries that have gun bans. in europe they love their socialism but they love our explosive movies. new york is one step away from chicago. we are one step closer and closer to that city and it is because of that type of anti gun anti police type of mentality

they have in chicago. it is going to spread. >> we will see if de blasio is willing to risk, he is willing to give that up. >> maybe he will ban movies. he's willing to give up ray kelly which is a really stupid thing. >> i think we are done here. directly ahead, should an ex-girlfriend get a slice of her ex-boyfriend's power ball pie if she dated him for a decade before he dumped her? the $338 million breakup battle next on "the five."

welcome back >> welcome back everybody. intriguing circumstances begging the question what would you do?

first off in march a new jersey man named pedro turned over a winning lottery ticket. he just won 338 million bucks. then it got interesting. his girlfriend is now suing him because he won't share the winnings. girlfriend is also mother of their child and more the couple lived together for 10 years. they ron a convenience store together as well. to add a final twist inez moved out of pedro's place claiming abuse. what would you do around the horn? >> what if you are pedro first? >> pedro. it's an ex-girlfriend ex-boyfriend. i wouldn't give them a nickel. here's where i think they may have a problem. the fact that they have the grocery store she is arguing he used the money to buy the ticket their shared income from their grocery store. so maybe she has a bit of a case. but i am with pedro i wouldn't

give my ex a nickel. >> they bought the ticket together. they have been together for ten years and a kid together. >> i don't think there's any question she deserves money out of this thing. this punk sent 54 million to the dominican republic. don't ever go there. it's a dump. >> it is beautiful. >> you are mean to t -- they ar mean to the haitians. >> they also occupy almost half of northern manhattan. leaving that aside for a second. i think situations like this they have shared -- she is raising his children. the guy was behind the child support and he beat her up? she ought to get all of it. >> i agree with bob. i also -- >> half? >> maybe more than that. maybe 60 percent because of the child. if she is raising the child. i also think it should be a wake-up call and reminder to

everybody there is a importance of a contract, a contract calls marriage. marriage is what can protect you and also help be a fulfilling part of your life. now it has all gone to s-h d -- you know what. no one is going to come out ripper. >> pedro. >> he will have a crap pee life. >> he paid her on child support he can give the kid money. >> why does he walk around after winning all that with a giant check. there's a target on your back. somebody sees you with that check. he's an idiot. she could actually save his life. you look at the research on people who win these big lotteries their wife gets worse. he's thinking i am going to get strippers and go to vegas do all that stuff. he should go back move in with the woman live with the kid and live a normal life she is going to keep him from he idestroying life. >> i agree with dana about how bad they treat the haitians.

this guy sent 57 million to the dominican republic. i know a lot of dominicans most of them are wonderful people. a lot have known me and i am a wonderful guy. >> it's not all dominicans is my point. >> he paid taxes to the united states government. who cares ifs he is sweet and sent his money to his who cares. >> if you win the lottery everything you buy for the rest of your life must be made in america. >> yeah. >> saw that coming a mile away. >> how about rabbi found 98 grand in a desk he bought on craig's list. >> behind the drawers there is this shopping back, and in the bag i can already see through the bag there's it looks like a

hundred dollar bill. open it up it is full of cash. we count it up there's 98,000 dollars cash sitting in the bag. right away my wife and i sort of looked at each other, we said we can't keep this money. >> the man of the cloth did the right thing. good samaritan? before you answer recall the british proverb a fool and his money they are soon parted. i am talking about the guy who left 98 grand in the desk. >> when this happens you never keep the money you can dye. anybody that has that kind of money around also knows people who can kill you. don't return it to the person, go to the police. never ever meet the person -- never go to the person or meet the person that left that money behind because he will kill you. >> 98 grand you give it back. >> the only money i ever find is my winter coat pockets which has been lucrative this year. about $47.02 lots of dog food bags and things like that. >> give me a break.

>> they weren't used ones. >> you carry a bag. >> just in case i have to be that responsible -- i am a responsible citizen. >> people really run around and pick that stuff up? >> yeah, they have do. >> buyers keepers losers weepers? >> it was a wonderful thing he did and it was the right thing to do. from what we read, it was a woman and her retirement fund money. >> according to greg this little old lady is going to murder this rabbi. i think the congregation is lucky to have this rabbi as their leader. you have to give the money back. it remind me of a story i was in the bathroom at a nail salon this woman left a massive diamond ring. so i first tried it on and looked at it in the mirror a little bit and immediately returned it. will this hinge had to be worth at least 100,000. it was so big.

she came screaming and crying a couple minutes later. >> maybe you were on candid camera. >> whenever somebody leaves something i say this is a test. >> i found a $20 bill should i pick it up should it give it to somebody. >> it was on a string. >> this is all great. we have to go. wannabe tough guy alec baldwin in court today started crying like a little baby girl. that story coming up. >> the gum chewing, stop. [ male announcer ] 'tis the season of more. more shopping. more dining out. and alo with it, more identity theft. by the time this holiday season is over, more than a million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online, or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday.

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i decided my biggest pet peeve is the loud gum chewing. saw it today in my exercise class. very annoying. very annoying. what about you, bob? >> believe it or not except for the dog thing i wouldn't own one. everything else i pass. >> you are not an inconsiderate rat jerk? >> no, i am not. >> everybody here that i know at fox is considerate except for the person who microwaved salmon on the 18th floor. >> what bothers you the most on this list? >> the thing that bothers me the most is not on the list. it is people who cough or sneeze and don't cover their mouths and wipe their hand on their shirt. they are really jerks because then they get you sick. you look guilty right now. >> not on the list. >> yeah. >> what do you teach your son like on the things in terms of manners and being polite what

are the most important things you can teach>> o oo. >> one is tipping. >> you are like me over board tipper. >> i start 30 percent and go up. these people are the hardest working people around. they rely on it. >> cell phone etiquette. you have seen that annoying stuff. >> we have to see mr. trump by 10:00 we have to make specialized doughnuts with a giant d on it. that drives me nuts. i don't think this is a definition of a jerk. i think this is just the decline of society. allotted of this stuff doesn't

happen in certain generations. who litters? >> i see people spitting their gum out. if you go right by the subway. >> they are young people mostly. >> my kids stand up when an adult walks into the room or call them sir or ma'am. if i was sitting down when an adult walked through the room wh and i didn't get up. >> when you go to dinner a lady is present when she gets up do you stand up, too. >> i also don't sit down before they do. >> i don't think you have ever done that, bob. i have gotten up many times. no, no. what you are talking about is the time i took you to dinner you were playing on your text machine. >> that was another one on there. >> if you take out your phone in the middle of talking and takes out their phone. >> anybody who doesn't do that.

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landslide victory last week for >> there is speculation of who is running in 2016. on the democratic side all eyes are on hillary clinton. some leader bes are hoping she may face a challenge in the primaries. they are talking about elizabeth warren out of massachusetts as the potential recipient of liberal money to take the challenge. is there a chance? >> i think the liberal left is looking for a prospect. it is republicans that should be excited about it. the biggest fear on the right is

that it is a karn nation with hillary clinton. they will battle it out like last time around and she gets to be anointed. if she has a primary challenge it will force hillary clinton to run to the left. >> given the fact that the first three states in iowa, new hampshire and south carolina two of which haare very strong in e it is of socialish oo yous, aren't the republicans going to force -- if chris christie runs won't he be forced to the right? >> we need to point out there was a new poll out that had christie against hillary clinton. i p can't image chris christie would be the choice here. i can't image they would run any one against hillary clinton. the lead said liberal leaders, why would liberal leaders want

to mess with that or say look they thought about it. >> to broad brush like that there are certain liberals that hate the idea. the biggest issue is income and equality among the left. they think hillary clinton getting the money from wall street and 400,000 from goldman sachs is two speeches like her husband tied into wall street and lost track of economic equality. to use the analogy of barack obama he had a war going on then that was a real driving force when he took on clinton. she was for it he was against it. that brought out a lot of support. warren doesn't have that kind of issue. >> i think it's an collaborate ruse. >> i am smarter and faster. >> you are before me. >> liberal leaders anonymous

leaders whispering to some of the reporters in washington, d.c. that elizabeth warren might run because they don't want it to look like a coronation. they have to fake it and make it look like hillary had to work for it. she doesn't. the people who are concerned about her getting money from wall street there's about six of them. >> you think this is real? >> there are really people in the democratic party on the left who do not want to see hillary clinton as the nominee. >> do they think she can win a general election over any republican? is>> absolutely. >> elizabeth warren being that person, it looks like it is not just hillary winning because she is a woman. there was another woman running. it was bologna. >> three points to portray hillary as a moderate which helps to somebody to the left of her. also native american. you have a native american running. that's exciting. the thing people have to think

about is the strategy of being the first person whether it is the first black president or first woman. it works. republicans should try to get condoleezza out of moth balls and get her back in there. she is a strong candidate a black woman and would be a good choice. >> that woman toint is a re-- w point is a real good one. you can hear the power and propaganda. people are going to want to be a part of history and they want to vote for a woman. >> one more thing is up next. >> one more thing is up next.

it's now time for >> it is now time for one more thing. eric baldwin.

>> he was in trial for his stalker. he started to choke up. he was crying. he was reratilating the story ow he was coming out of his house the stalker approached him he was so scared for his wife and himself. this is a guy who beats up photographers he was scared of this female stalker. i hope tomorrow we will have courtroom sketches. >> good actor, right? >> bob? is>> the u.s. pastor christian pastor saeed ab dini is being held in iran in the notorious prison where they receive inadequate food, no healthcare, nothing. his father tried to bring medication. the iranians said it picking on our pastors and religion and

ought to leave him alone and treat him right. you want to know why you are a brie at nation. i know you probably missed seeing and hearing about jasper who had the first snow in central park today. >> that's for you, bob. >> bob is covering his eyes. >> come on. that's jasper. >> obamacare is so bad that the company brosurance has to come up with these types of ads to try to get woman to sign up for obamacare. you have a am would on the left got insurance. the caption reads, let's hope he is as easy as this birth control. what a great message. it's cheap and tacky? >> i thought it was a joke. it is not. >> we are covering them in red

eye tonight. >> today, sub par. the irony here is this is an administration that is called sub par policy they are a sub par administration. who are you to say what is sub par. >> just remember in golf sub par is good. >> if she gets pregnant if she can't get on the web site is that obama's fault? is>> is there obamacare for obamacare? >> being a politician be another democratic voter. >> see. that's it for us ton "the five." see you back here tomorrow. special report with "bret bait p next. >> it is november 13th. desperation in the philippines as people are literally rush crushed to death during a looting rampage. all while one sign of hope stands tall right in the middle of all of that destruction.

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clinton chiming in it. we have more on what he had to say. >> while former president bill clinton said the administration should keep its word people should be allowed to continue coverage with their healthcare plan which is now in the process of being canceled. take a listen. >> i personally believe even if it takes changing the law the president should honor the commitments the federal government made to those people. >> the former president as you may know a champion of healthcare reform. there are others who are also speaking out senator diane fine stein, senator maryla land dror that require insurance companies to continue offering their healthcare plans. at the same time house republicans are expecting to vote on their proposal friday that would allow insurance companies the option of continuing existing plans for a year. while the white house apologized for the failing rollout the