we knout 50 shades of grey is set to debue with valentine's day. >> thanks for joining us. >> bill and ally is next. there are new developments as white house officials behind the obama care debacle is grilled on capitol hill. here's what happened. >> i believe as public servants we have a shared goal to deliver to americans the service they deserve and expect. since day one only six people got to the end, for the american people understanding whatever the capacity today, it was insufficient on day one, is that correct? >> to provide the accurate

testimony. >> on day one was capacity efficient. >> it is fully tested as the other it projects you have overseen to the same standards? >> i am trying to understand what you mean by fully tested. >> fully tested. holy cow. this is like a new low. >> i am only asking. >> gentlemen. >> you are not going to interfere you are going to do it all of the way. >> how many cyber attacks have there been on the healthcare.gov system? >> we are aware of one open source action attempting to put a service attack against healthcare.gov that is unsuccessful. >> as was stated by the secretary herself, it is possible that a felon may be a navigator. >> there is a lot to dive in

there. i am alisyn camerota. >> and i am bill hemmer. those are heated hearings on capitol hill. obama care website not ready for prime time. mike emmanuel is live on the hill for whoo what's happen so far. good afternoon. >> reporter: administration officials are telling law makers there is progress made on healthcare.gov. for example, two weeks ago it took eight seconds to load a page and now less than a second. this is more on efforts to fix the website. >> i can say now that in addition to volume, other co issues that are invested to the site in terms of functionality and there are aggressive efforts to do. that and they are getting better each week. >> reporter: the how oversight committee going o. there was drama coming in with chairman

darril issa subpeona the white house official mr. park. it irerated the white house officials and democrats. there was questions of why it was not ready for prime time and they insisted on moving with launch. >> why if you have all of these problems why not wait. >> i didn't ask why. >> the folks in the white house knew it had problems evidence by the problems that was not done end to end. basedor political reasons they had to adhere to the date and the end result is, americans personal information is put at risk. > reporter: there are multiple questions of whether the website will be fully functional on november 30th. that was the goal that the administration set. they are working hard to that

goal and striving to achieve it. >> that is a burning question. did the administration's top technology guys, convince law makers that they will have the website fixed in two weeks or not? we have a congressman mi ca h who was at today's hearing. >> thank you. >> what did you learn today? >> we learned that the implosion of obama care that we see was predictable and that in fact, the people at cm s, and also the white house knew there were flaws in the system. in fact. they caused a delay in issues regulations before the election because they didn't want americans and others to know how bad the requirements were going to be. that delayed the implementation.

and they went forward even without completing a full security test of the system. even today they couldn't answer whether your personal information can be at risk. we don't know that. >> were you surprised, congressman, that they admitted they didn't do prelaunch testing in terms of the amount of volume that was predicted? >> well, again, it is riddled with errors from an operational stand point, they also put in charge cm s that is in charge of medicare and medicaid. they can't get that right. they were supposed to be the system's integrator. they couldn't get going to work and they were delayed by the white house in setting up the requirements and the white house ignored information that they anyhow that bump bump wear was

nééready for prime time. >> they say they are working on it and have made progress and able to process 17,000 registrants per hour. that is five per second. does it mollify you that they seem to be getting it under control? >> that is one of the problems. i am i am dilulled by thousands of people that were told they could keep their insurance. technical problems are one thing but people by the millions are getting notification they can't keep the insurance they were promised to keep. the technical is a minor problem compared to people's disruption in life. >> congressman, are you confident that the obama care website will be up and fully functional at the end of this month? >> no, i am even more concerned

that people's personal information may be at risk because the website is not secure. >> we'll talk about that in the rest of the program. >> the washington post reported that the website will not be fixed by the end of the month which breaks a promise. and according to the paper, the 17 federally call centers had a lack of authority to errors on on line applications if you have an issue on the phone. >> speaking of obama care, it is a rare day when dick cheney agrees with bill clinton. both men believe president obama should keep his promise that the americans can keep their health care. >> i am inclined to agree with pill clinton.

people have already lost their policys and can't get new ones. and these policies have been declared by law to be inadequate because of the standards written in the regulations. i am not sure how you now go peel back that onion? you have to a situation go to the people and give them a new policy and repeal obama care? maybe. it is hard to implement that. i think it is what needs to be done is repeal obama care. i think it is a serious, serious problem in terms of government trying to do more than its capable of doing. >> also the former vice-president brings up the heart of the issue in fixing obama care. how do you bring back cancelled insurance policy if they violate the health care law the way it is written now. it is a daunting task. it is a push on the behalf of

house republicans to do what, jerry. >> reporter: fred upton said you should be able to keep your plan can. keep the plans that were offered and cancelled because of obama care requirements. and mary landroui ups the ante and wants them offered indefinitely. 5 million have lost their policies and how you flip the switch and turn back the tide and say that policy that was dead can come back to life? frankly, bill, i have no idea. there is 93 million people who have employer sponsored coverage in the coming weeks and months and next fall could get similar notices. these people could be held. >> by the way the law is set off. in a year, there will be tens of millions of people reporting on

it. this is what we found. to get it changed like this, the president would have to sign legislation that changes the health care law. that means it would have to go through congress. if the house idea doesn't go anywhere. they will to what valerie jared said last night grinned it out are they not? >> reporter: it is not just congress that has to act, it is the insurance companies, too. once you cancel a valid contract, resurrecting it may not be easy as a practical matter, bill. >> why is that? >> reporter: because once you are done with business, it is over. that is an issue. the insurers will fight this. >> you memgzed 5 million plus. california has a million plus already, right? >> reporter: the total number 93 million americans, could see their health care cancelled. >> we'll see where the house bill goes and what comes of it.

jeri, you raise a good point. we don't know a lot of the stuff and where it leads. and steve hayes was on and say it is like playing a game of jinga. and what do you think? will the cancelled plans come back? >> send us a tweet at bill hemmer or me@alisyn camerota. >> we'll try to work our way through this. we'll be with you as we go hour by hour at times and the stories we pick up in the morning. >> and they just ended and so we have a lot of information. >> the white house hoping for a do over with a quarter of million of americans getting no where trying to sign up for federal insurance on the website, inviting them now to come back, will they? >> more fireworks on the botched roll out including one law maker trying to figure out who knew

what and the website not ready for prime time. >> you got the fancy title and you are the chief information officer of the united states of america and you didn't know about this before the biggest domestic policy program website in the history of the country was launched and you didn't know about this?

we mentioned the hearings. they have wrapped up. ohio ran jordan gave them it. >> it is pretty plain language. didn't test it. no end to end testing and done before october 1st and yet the it person in charge. somebody said it is okay to start this thing. >> i say it is taken out of context. >> did you know the results of the minor testing before october 1st. >> i haven't seen the document

in >> you got the fancy title and you are the chief information officer of united states of america. that is a pretty big title and you didn't know about this before the biggest domestic policy program is launched in this country and you didn't know about this. >> sir, i haven't seen this document. >> that scares us. mr. park, you are supposed to be the clark kent coming out of the phone booth. did you know about that before october 1st? >> i did not. >> would you like me to explain why? >> i would like someone to tell me why end to end testing was not done. >> now we are hearing that the administration plans to send out a quarter million e-mails starting yesterday inviting me stuck in the enrollment process to come back on the site. is that a deal you would go for. jennifer, good morning to you. >> what is the idea here?

door open and come back and try? >> this is not just rearranging the decks on the deck chairs on the titanic, this is like selling a new ticket. who would want to come back to the system? they have no guarantee they are not wasting their time. and secondly, we heard from senators and congressman and witnesses that the information is not guaranteed to be secure. and third of all, the product offered there is crudy and more expensive in many cases and less coverage in other cases and i don't know what incentive the quarter of million people will come back? >> the notices started to go out. what does it mean to be stuck on the website. you got to a certain point in the application and you are frozen out and the system went down? >> all or some of those and that speaks to an irony. if the system worked better and

more people had gone on, it would be a bigger disaster. it is not only the front end of the website, it is the tran mission to the insurance companies and them getting accurate information. we have no guarantee that that part of the equation is fixed either. you might get on, but the information may not be trances ferred accurately to the insurance company. >> i apologe for the interruption. the point is they need everyone they can get based on the enrollment. 275,000 e-mails going out as of yesterday. were you aware of the memo out there less than 30 days before the launch and during the memo, the threat and the risk potential to the system is limitless. limitless. that was 27 days before they went forward. did we get a far reading and answer as why they didn't halt the launch. >> i think the right hand didn't

know what the left hand did. this as vice-president cheney said. it is beyond the ability of government. it is impossible for mere mortals to make it work and that's why we should repeal it. >> jennifer rubin, thank you for coming on. >> thank you, jennifer. >> my pleasure. >> still so many questions. death and devastation continues in the philippines after the unprecedented typhoon. people left starving and homeless and trying to survive until aid comes. a live report. >> healthcare.gov could take more time to get fixed than planned they say it is looking better but not everyone grease. >> it's been called a train wreck. that is not fair to train wrecks. they brought you in to fix it.

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trey goudy pressing on where the site was put together. >> because you are the smartest one in the room and very good at what you do, wh where in the heck were you in the first 184 weeks? if you are asked to fix them after october 1st in a couple of weeks where were you bht so- called affordable act passed? where did they have you hidden?

>> in my role at the white house usto. i am a advisor and i have a broad portfolio. >> you are obviously good enough to fix what was broken. it is called a train wreck and that is not fair to train wrecks and it is called other things. they called you in to fix it and why didn't they call you in to build it? >> trey goudy foured up. this hearing starting at nine time time 30 eastern time and now coming up on the fourth hour. we'll bring you headlines from the hill when we get them here. fox news alert now. police clashing with looting mobs in the philippines and the islands struggling to recover from the massive killer typhoon.

half million are left homeless. and they are struggling to get water and food. >> reporter: the best way to really understand this, alisyn. this is hurricane katrina in a third world countryment imagine that. the area where i am at was completely submerged under 18 feet of water. that means you didn't see the terminal what so ever. and getting help into not just here in a chaotic situation right now, but the outlying areas. you are looking at video in the last several days and much of it here inairport. we have another perspective from today. >> the eye of the typhoon passes over ta clobban and the ring of destruction stretches 50 miles

in each direction. you can see that in the island. missing roofs and downed brick walls and wooden studs and millions of uprooted trees and the damage gets worse as you approach the coast and port city of ta clobban. >> and the aid and aid workers. there is progress being made. helicopters and c- 130s are coming in to the airport in tacloba n. and they are bringing in cargo and supplies and tents and food and water and seeing doctors from belgium and israel. and search and rescue people from france there are elick tricians and carpenters and construction guys here in the philippines that are going out and bringing access to get the materials out to the people. a lot of people are trying to

get out and others are coming to see if those they loved survived. >> i came in the place and saw many -- >> reporter: i spoke to the interior minister and they are concentrating to getting the roads cleared to get aide to people and some by truck and helicopters to the remote areas. >> thank you so much. >> and we just started to learn about the devastation in the heart of where that storm was. >> to hear those poor people begging for help. >> it could get worse. now the explosive report that the obama care website will not be fixed by the end of november. the fallout of that possibility.

>> and the young woman on the receiving end of so much anger afterwards and now breaking her silence. >> they are on a hot seat, we'll ask peter king if he got answers on the security of healthcare.gov. >> should there have been guidelines to do security checks on the backgrounds of people who are in communication with the very applicants and some of those navigators under the secretary's own admission may be felons. rrn and said, "we are really interested in making sure that everyone really understands personal finance."

we're like, "well, we're already doing that." and so it was kind of a perfect match.

quick check of the head lines. briefing senate leaders on iran after the nuclear talks in genev valast week failed to reach an agreement. and toronto embattled mayor pushing a zero- tollerance policy just days after he admitted to smoke crack. you can't make this stuff up. >> she was the cover girl for obama. she doesn't know why she was the subject of anger. >> it was going to be used for

material for promoting the health care. we didn't know it was going to have a negative impact. i would never have gone through that. now i am. >> she wanted to defend herself and her family. >> she was bullied because the website didn't work? it was not her fault. >> unintended consequences. that is one right there. >> and the house security wrapping up the hearings on obama care. congressman king joins us now. congressman, thank you for taking time. what did you learn from the hearing today? >> very few answers at all. the reality is the chairman and subcommittee chairman for having the hearing. the department of homeland security is supposed to be in charge of cyber security with

the federal government and they played no role what so ever in anything on the website. no role what so ever in setting up the health care plan. health and human services did not consult and there were no briefings. and as a result of that a system that is insecure from terrorism or just crooks out there trying to get personal information on people. you can have felons working as navigators here. >> one of the things that jumped out at me and maybe you can give me context to better understand. there are 16 reports of cyber attacks on healthcare.gov. give us a context. is that a lot or little or troubling? >> it is troubling. first of all it is significant enough the fact that there was no defense against. it that is a troubling part. it could be more than 16 as we

go forward. it is something to be very concerned about. that's why they brought the hearing. it goes against common sense. here you have security and one of the main jobs is to provide jobs. and the health and you machine services in setting up the website never went to the security. >> and meanwhile they said it was hilo secured and it is a hub and it connects different federal agencies and not storing data and that will make us feel better and that it is just an avenue by which information travels and doesn't traffic. >> with all that went wrong with the obama care website. we have no reason to be secure. and certainly no reason why. they can talk all they want.

why wouldn't they have the department of homeland security in charge of cyber security not come in and brief with them. >> so if they bring you in before the end of the month and have department of homeland security to collaborate with them is that the answer? will you be ready on december 1st it was ready for prime time? >> i would feel better on security being ready. i don't think the program will be ready. but security, and have the department of homeland security to come in and upgrade security and give us more reason to feel that the program is secure. but it is not going to make the program work better but they can make it more secure. congressman peter king. thank you so much. >> alisyn, thank you. >> the website is already better than it was in the beginning of october and by the end of this

month we anticipate it is going to work the way it is supposed to, all right. >> that was from a week ago in dallas saying that the website will be fixed by the end of this month in november. >> a new report in the washington post said the troubled site probably will not be fixed 17 days from now. we have my esteemed colleague bill hemmer with the first question. >> if it is not ready by december 1st, what then? >> it would be very, very bad. the president is saying that the president is better than nonfunctional, let's start there and that is starting in a bad place. i think a lot of people were skeptical when the date came out and wondered how they would turn it around so quickly. >> you used the word disaster. >> it is a disaster from the get

go. >> the democrats will demand a one year delay if the november 30th dead line is not met. you stand by that? >> that's what i was about to say. democrats are pushing back on keep the plan aspect of it. but if we get to a situation where people cannot get on the website to sign up for the health care, then you are going to have delay the man date and democrats are feeling they will have to call for that. >> so la rss. is it enough to allow the president to sit back and do republicans actually need to accept up and present an alternative. >> let me play something that brit hume said last night about the republicans fixing. it >> this is devastating to the democrat party and an opportunity for the republican party.

republicans all voted right down to the last member against. it they are well positioned on it. it would be wise for the republicans to be ready themselves with a conservative plan or plan that is consistent with their principles to put in place to replace obama care and they are not just the party of no. >> what do you think? >> the plans have been out there for a long, long time. all the way through debate of obama care and new ones are rolled out. if you say let's strip away the federal man dates that is a big problem. the old plans would be all right. simple catastrophic plans protect the people against the laws used to sell the scheme by the president. it is already a disaster. think of the fact 5 million people, latest number from fox, 5 million people lost their

insurance and told to buy the more expensive stuff that you don't want and can't afford. it is not an acceptable solution and disaster already. >> what did you think of brit's comment? >> i think that is right. i have to go back and look at the wonderful plans that la rs said exist. >> they are out there. >> i don't remember them being that wonderful though. and they were the way i remember them, they were basically going to provide you with a tax credit that was not going. >> had to do with your -- tort reform. >> yes. okay. so that's the solution? i think they will have to come up with something a little more than that. and if they want to stay in their bubble of saying they are great plans that is fine. but they need to come up with more than selling across state lines. >> that's ridiculous. strip away the man dates and catastrophic coverage and sell

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which would mean the easy money would go away. it has been easy money for 15 months right now. time now to check in with gretchen carlson to see what is coming up. >> he says the president likeening that website to amazon and kaayak is an insult. also, he is the one who wants the website completely shut down after uncovering alleged fraud. plus whose side will you be on. >> that is a good little riddle. >> who would you choose? >> see you in 15 minutes. >> growing pressure to fix obama care coming from key democrats on the hill. >> geraldo rivera joins us now.

hi. >> democrats are hardly circling the wagon shouldn't they be supporting it? >> so interesting that you used a wild west analogy. they get surrounded by independent begans and by native americana tackers. and the lone ranger says things look bad for us. and he looks back and says what do you mean we? >> when bill clinton desserts barack obama you know things are grim. he was appointed by the president the secretary of explaining stuff in 2012. he defended the affordable health care act and now boil clinton is suggesting that the president has to keep his word. bill clinton says even if it takes a change in the law we have to honor that commitment and i submit to you that it

would take a change in the law. rand paul said that the president can't undo the law that congress passed. if he wants to make this grandfrmg people with policies and let them keep them. he has to go back. for bill clinton, it is easier to say it than it is to do it. kai hagan a democrat in north carolina he was polar until two weeks ago. she was blowing away in this polling every republican challenger. whether they were known or unknown and now she is under water against some of them and leads a handful of others. that must be great political pressure. the tox sisity bill is why bill clinton abandoned the president. he is looking to his wife's

expected candidacy. he doesn't want her to be taken down as democrats appear to be headed toward a disaster in 2014. this thing is going to last well until 2014. he wants to divorce hillary from the debacle of obama care. >> not literally divorce hillary. the point is that center landreu and others are co sponsoring these bills. wouldn't it be better to say let's take a break until the end of the month. >> let me pile geraldo's law. day for a day.

now we are at november 13th. we have 44 days in and 44 days we should delay the mandate's implementation. the insurance companies are screaming bloody murder. they don't want any delay and need those premiums coming into cover their expanded coverage of people with pre-existing conditions. they are the counter weight to the increasing number of people on it. the president has to swallow his pride and go back to congress >> wow, that would be luge. >> i don't see any other way to handle it. >> i heard valerie talking to the "new york times" last night saying, we are ready to grind it out. they are willing to take the hits that they need to take. >> a sports analogy. let's say the clock is running out and you are playing

football. but at some point the block clo going to expire. now he has to get this thing going. people are up against a big void here. policies are cancels. what is going to happen? think of the liebility. >> we have never been here before. really smart people at fox business and we asked them what is going to happen and they said we have no idea. >> president clinton said we were here under medicare part d. >> we had the problems with the launch then and we have straightened things out in the past. i think it isgoing to take

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white briefing and there is more. >> and it is our belief that we are on track so that by november 30th, healthcare.gov will be working smoothly for the vast majority of users. that is what jeff says and remains the case today. there are still problems that need to be addressed even as we

work through a punch list of issues that need to be resolved. the fact is on november 13th. we are not where we will be and want to be on november 30th, it remains the case that we believe the site will be working smoothly for the majority of users by the end of the month. that was the frame that jeff talked about when he first established this goal. and we believe we are on track. we make assessments all the time. today we are confident that we are on track to achieve that. if that changes we will certainly lesern certainly let you know. let me also be clear as i said yesterday, as with any major website that is complex as this one is. it can be working smoothly for

the vast majority of users and there can be problems. so i do not doubt that there will be stories of people who experience delays or difficulties but it is our prediction that we can with the fixes that are being implemented reach our goal by november 30th. americans that are interested in reviewing their options and purcha purchasing quality affordable insurance can do so, and there is no question that since the launch date of october 1st, the perform aps ance of the website been far less than satisfactory. this progress that is being made every day, is measured against

metrics that focus on response time and error right and site stability. progress on these are moving in the right direction pages are loading faster and error rates are down. and we expect to see eterates each week. we have cut the loading time from 8 seconds to less than 1 second. that is progress. on error are rate we have reduced the frequency on a per page basis of time outs from 6:6% to 2%. i can tell you today that er ro ror rate is now below 1%. that is progress.

as you know, the system that has gone down with some stability but it has greatly improved. i think that has been noted by people who cover it and we are implementing fixes and changes every day that himprove stabiliy and error rate so this is the kind of stuff that cms released but i'm trying to give you context here so that it is not just a goal that we'll evaluate on november 30th as to whether we've made it or not. there is specific progress by which progress is measured and measurable progress to report. and every there are software fixes being made and each day we

get closer to where we need to be. >> jay, on separate topic iran the president spoke to the prime minister and the president today. is the united states preparing a new package or a new deal -- >> okay we want to share that obama care moment with you. >> it soupds like the white house believes that they are still on track for november 30th. that they will have the glitches worked out and up and running. >> they say the vast majority of users. and he is suggesting that the majority of users will be okay. todd park the chief technology officer was at the hearing today and was pressed on the topic as to how many users can use it at one time and he said between 20,000 and 25,000 people at one

time which is half of what is expected. >> and he admitted that they had not tested it before they ran it for that number of people. >> which is a shocker. >> i got to roll. >> i'm going to roll too. here is "the real story" right now. >> hello everyone. welcome to the real story today. for fall out from a new grilling on capitol hill to tons of spinning at the white house. the chief tech officer on the hot seat today and now word that the website may not be fixed by the end of the month at least not for every person. congressman blasting the website's requirement that consumers had to create those accounts first which runs counter to the common e-commerce