man, it's been a busy three hours. where has the time gone? >> we know this, after the show show looms ahead. >> it does. >> have a great weekend, everybody. see you back here monday. martha: this fox news alert, a huge moment in this presidency as obama tries to dig his signature legislation out of a very deep hole. 5 million people have lost their health insurance as a result of this plan. the president attempted to come clean on this plan yesterday. >> plans twhoobt cancelled into 2014 and americans whose plans have been canceled can choose to reenroll in the same kind of plan. welcome to america's newsroom. i'm martha maccallum.

gregg: i'm gregg jarrett. >> the only way to fully protect the american people is to scrap this slaw once and for all. there is no way to fix this. gregg: top insurers say allowing americans to keep their old plan for a year will only make things worse. >> the president can't unravel the chaos created by obamacare. particularly in 31 days. it tooked the insurance companies months to get ready for this. they have to write a letter to every policyholder explaining the difference between the benefits of their old plan and the plan they have today. martha: byron york is here on the political fallout. then we are start with stuart varney of varney and company.

he says this fix will bring on a huge amount of confusion. so, stuart, first of all lay out for us what the president committed to do yesterday. >> reporter: the president is asking or telling the insurers to go back to the plans that have just been canceled. go back to the plans they liked and chose in the first place. that's what the presidential fix amounts to. but it leaves us deeper in chaos in our entire healthcare system. i'm trying to get answers to two fundamental questions and i can't get firm answers. will plans be restored. some insurers said we are not going to go back to her to substandard plans. it depend on the insurers

themselves. do they have time to go back to those old plans. effect question, will consumers be paying more? probably yes. because this is a fix that only lasts for one year. so ultimately you have to go back to the new higher premiums and deductibles. people will be taken out of those exchanges because they can keep their plan which means the pool is smaller which means the price for it goes up. martha: he has spoken as the such cross purposes base said these are substandard plans. we were just tryin -- we were jg to save you from substandard plans. yesterday i heard the president say if your insurance company allows you to keep your sub$standard plans we won't fax you. that will mean they won't be in

the obamacare plan and there will be less money in the plan. >> reporter: this is the collapse of the obamacare at its very core. if you take 5 million people out of the pool. less money in the pool, those that remain in the pool will have to pay a higher price for their coverage. martha: he's going to meet, the president is, with insurers. wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall. >> reporter: i think it will be a brow beating session where the president tells the insurers do this, or i'll come after you. martha: i don't know how much leverage he will have, but, stuart, thank you very much. what will the insurance industry say about this. if you lost your plan can you call them up and say i want to keep it for one more year? we are going to talk to a former top executive at a major

insurance company who knows the ins and outs of all of this. and he will give us answers to the chaos stuart talked about. we'll talk to congressman fred upton. his bill will be vote on that will allow to you keep your insurance and get that substandard plan. also the president will be -- the president talked about the plan if you couldn't keep it. senator barrasso will also be joining us. michele bachmann will be here. michele bachmann said what she wanted to do more than anything was repeal obamacare, and republicans have been called every name in the book officer trying to top this plan. gregg: senator brasplan.gregg --

gregg: what is the political fallout. not often you see an american presidenpresident tell the amern people his critics were right. >> everyone is focused on not doing a $good job on the rollout. and that's legitimate. there were times i thought we were slapped around unjustly, but this is deserved. it's on us. gregg: byron york joins his chief correspondents. democrats were in absolute open revolt. they were stampeding out the exit doors over this thing because they were hearing from their constituents about how ugly this is getting. did the president's preemptive move yesterday, preemptive of

the fred upton vote today, did that change the political dynamic at all, byron? >> not at all. democrats who were panicked yesterday are panic dad about this. the president's move doesn't change a lot of the facts on the ground about obamacare. but as far as the president's image is concerned, it was an extraordinary perform answer. he has been famous in the past for blaming others for this problems. but he comes out and sets a record for taking responsibility yesterday. he said that's on me. he said that three times. three times he admitted to fumbling the ball. he expressed regret for that keep your coverage promise and had a general air of contrition. americans do like executives who come out and take responsibility for problems. the problem is the facts of obamacare. the millions who have lost coverage are probably not going

to get it back because of we did. gregg: never once did say yes, i misled you. he's not going to say yeah i lied to you. our voters think so. take a look at the recent couple of fox news polls. most people think the montana lied, deliberately lied when said you can keep your plan. and the next poll shows 0% knew all along that people would get kicked off. and amid the me a cull as yesterday and there was a lot of blame, too, again the president refused to admit that he misled people. does that raise serious questions about his come he tense? >> he said one of the reasons he came out and talked and engaged in this kind of therapy session that went on for quite a while is he wanted to get some of his credibility back because he

realize it is gone. 40% who believe the president didn't lie are the same number who approve of his job performance. the number of people with faith in him is shrinking to a hard-core. you are right about the specific responsibility. the president was asked, were you told that this web sites wasn't work and he said was not quote informed directly which sounds like a legalistic word and i think it tells everybody there is a lot more to know about what the president knew about this whole healthcare situation as the rollout approached. gregg: lots more today as a vote is scheduled. byron york, thanks very much. martha: a big question for the president yesterday, did he the healthcare website was in such bad shape before the launch. here's what he said on that. >> on the website i was not informed directly the website

would not be working the way it was supposed to. had i been informed i wouldn't be going out saying this is going to be great. you know, i'm accused of a lot of things but i don't think i'm stupid enough to go around saying this is going like shopping on amazon or travelocity if i thought it wasn't going to work. martha: a fox news poll shows americans don't believe the president was that far out of the loop. when asked if they were aware or unaware of the irs targeting within the obamacare rollout and nsa spying. 47% think he's ducking responsibilities. 27% say he should have known.

18% that he was unaware. we talked about whether the president ever said, come on into the oval office. let's take a ride through this thing. let's see what the user's experience will be. we got the answer yesterday. the president did not do that. he was not aware there were such problems. you have to believe as any executive would that he would want -- to be in this precarious situation. gregg: he has been accused of being a by stander president and that may be evidence of it. but you would think this signature achievement. the culmination of his presidency he would want to know, what's going on with the most important aspects of it, and apparently he's saying i had no clue. martha: where is that curiosity that makes you want to know how it runs before you think the excitement of having this huge legislation would have brought that moment about, but

apparently i'd did not. gregg: a search is underway after a pilot claims a man literally fell out of the back door of his plane at 2,000 feet. the bizarre details next. martha: the new developments in the nfl bullying investigation. the spotlight is on this man, the alleged victim. gregg: even president obama admits his credibility has taken a beating because of obamacare. can he get it back? we'll ask congresswoman michele bachmann about that. >> this isn't about the people. this is about the president, his political problems and the political problems of the democrat party. people across the united states don't trust one thing the president says now. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here!

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martha: a lot of reaction this morning. when asked if obamacare could affect his ability to lead. >> in terms of how i'm going approach it, i'm going to keep work as hard as i can around the priorities the american people care about. i think it's legitimate for them to expect me to win back some credibility on this healthcare law in particular and a whole range of issues in general. and, you know, that's on me. i mean ... we fumbled the rollout on this healthcare law. martha: minnesota republican congresswoman michele bachmann. what a news conference that was yesterday. all kinds of emotions from the president. concessions from the president. what was your personal reaction when you watched this?

>> i was incredi was incredulou. he wanted to take personal responsibility. but he was not interested in changing obamacare. he's invested in this bill. he doesn't care if it doesn't work for the american people. the white house announced they would veto fred upton's bill which would allow the american people if you like your healthcare insurance you can keeps it. the fix he offered was a political fix for the democratic party. but they are in deeper trouble because the american people will get think they get to keep their their insurance companies. but what will happen is the insurance companies will write a confusing letter to their formerly canceled policy holders

and nothing is going to change. people aren't going to get their health insurance policies back. that's why the president has such a credibility problem and this will only make it worse. martha: i was covering for our affiliates and we thought it was coming at 11:35 and it was at least 45 minutes late. all i could think about is what are they talking about in there? we may or may not find out the answer to that eventually. but what the president said in my mind is we'll allow since companies if they want to reinstate the substandard plan they can do that for a year. it doesn't unwind the program, it just says if you want to be you can. that's not very powerful. >> nothing is going to happen. the president raised the

expectations of the american people at this press conference so they think they will be able to keep the health insurance plan they wants. but remember what has to happen. the state understand commissioners have to approve these plans. there is relatively little time for them to do that if at all. martha: he's going to talk to them and my guess is he will strong arm them to do exactly that. the president in many ways it could be interpreted he rushed to the podium. fred upton has his bill which would give people back their health insurance. we'll learn more about that in a few minutes. so he went to the podium and said no, no, no, democrats have a fix for you that's better than the republican fix. stay with me, trust me on this one, do not defect. because he's speaking to his own democrats. how many democrats do you think will vote for fred upton's bill today? >> it's panic mode and it's

anybody's guess. if democrats are listening to what the president said. they know the president will be as bad off as he was before the press conference. they know they won't be able to get their insurance policy back. but if they vote for fred upton's bill, they can say i tried, i voted. they are in a quandary, the lead of their party president obama wants them to stick with him. that's a bad bet my mind for democrats. if they vote for fred upton's bill at least they can say they tried. but at the end of the day that's not going to help the american people. the 5 million expected to go up to 15 million who lose their health insurance and won't be getting it back. once a retailer pulls a product off the shelf they don't put it back. martha: house republicans voted 38-plus times to repeal obamacare. during the government shutdown showdown they were accused of

being everything from terrorists to arsonists because they were holding healthcare hostage. how dare you be so mean that you don't want to cover them with healthcare. how do you feel about that at this point? >> that's all vaporized as we knew it would. the american people expects competence. they expect their lives to be better that worse. we hate to say we told you so but we look like geniuses because we predicted this with happen and we don't want this to happen because we wants people to have the health insurance that works for them, for their families. not the health insurance government wants to force down their throats at the price government wants them to play. i have great hope, i believe we'll see a positive new innovative private health insurance market come up to fruition that will help all americans. martha: you have the burden on you to make that clear to americans what the alternatives

are. congresswoman, thank you very much for being here today. good to talk to you. gregg: we are going to talk about serious questions about whether this is even legal for the president to delay it. great. this is the last thing i need.) seriously? let's take this puppy over to midas and get you some of the good 'ol midas touch. hey you know what? i'll drive! i really didn't think this through. brakes, tires, oil, everything. (whistling)

martha: a man reportedly fell out of a small plane into the ocean. the pilot claims its passenger just opened up the door and jumped out. only the two of them were onboard at the time. it's unclear whether the man accidentally fell out for jumped out.

gregg: jonathan martin is scheduled to meet with the nfl after ritchie incognito files a grievance over his suspension. what exactly is going to happen? >> reporter: the nfl will not comment on this or confirm today's meetings. but there is a large media presence upth avenue outside the office of nfl special investigator ted wells. we are told jonathan martin will meet with wells to discuss the issues wells had with ritchie incognito. he left the nfl because of alleged bullying and incognito was suspended when voicemails and text messages surfaces with incognito calling him the "n"

word and racial slurs against martin and his mother. >> the way we communicate is vulgar. it's not right. when the word are put in the context i understand why a lot of eyebrows get raids. but people don't know how john and i communicate to one another. >> reporter: what he would not confirm is the rumor that coaches started all this by asking him to toughen martin up. but he did file a grievance to get him his job back. the suspension is cost him nearly a quarter million a week. we are hearing a lot from the league itself. sources are telling us it's become an hr issue that could change the culture in the locker rooms. the league may institute sensitivity training to avoid future accusations of racism or

bullying players. football is a rough game are sensitivity or softness is frowned on. gregg: sensitivity in football seems to be a contradiction in terms. martha: it should be up to the managers and coaches of each team to say this is the code of conduct on this team. we expect to you hold to it. but it will unleash. they will have to spend 3 hours like we have done in sexual harassment training as so many big corporations have to do because of the legal implications. people like you, the lawyers out there. it's all your fault. gregg: the president under fire for skirting congress again. is this change to the healthcare law even legal? is it constitutional? can the president do it? senator john barrasso joins us

live with his take in just a moment. martha: an amazing stunt performed by an 80s action star. do you know who that guy i? could you do that at home? i wouldn't trite. he's 53 years old, i'll tell you that. >> we'll dry backward.

>> the white house has us look for an administrative fix. the president could do administratively to keep cities in pledge that would be both legal and effective. gregg: legal. house republicans calling out the president for unilaterally delaying requirements for insurance plans under obamacare. did he overstep his authority when he decided to go around congress yet again? senator john barrasso joins us. good to talk to you. the affordable care act dictates a very specific hard date for the start of it. and in fact for our viewers let's put it up on the screen. section 1513, effective date. the amendments made by this

section shall, and that's my emphasis, shall apply to months beginning after december 31, 2. > 2013. the word is "shall." it's mandatory. does it seem the president is acting illegally or abusing his power by unilaterally changing a law that you in congress passed? >> i don't think what the president is doing is legal but he has done this before. he has done this with special breaks for unions. he said let's ignore the employer mandate. he did it in terms much verifying income before sending it subsidies to people to buy understand under his plan. so this is part of the way the president operates. my bigger concern are these 4 million people who have gotten letters losing their coverage, and i think what the president

proposes isn't going to be effective either. this is just a political band-aid. it's not a long-term cure for the problems we have under this healthcare law which is bad for patients all across the country. terrible for taxpayers and it's not good for the nurses and doctors who take care of those patients. gregg: is he delaying the inevitable for a year to appease the millions of americans who are angry and also appease the revolt that seems to be gaining steam among his own party? >> there is high anxiety and panic among democrats in congress. they are getting the same letters from folks back home as i'm getting. i'm heading to which after we visit so i can talk with farmers and ranchers. i'll speak with the chamber of commerce in wyoming.

democrats are hearing from their folks at home whose policies were canceled. i got a letter from a rancher and her policy was canceled because it didn't include maternity coverage. she has had a hysterectomy and it works for her and now it's not good enough because of the president's law. gregg: yesterday the president was asked directly, he said no i can't assure americans that the site is going to be up and working in two weeks effectively. then on top of that you have got a whole bunch of insurance carriers and commissioners balking at the president's proposal. you have got millions of people getting cancellations. others are seeing their premiums double, deductibles trim.

is this law in your judgment. and you are also a doctor. is this law unraveling? >> the law is unraveling. i believe it's fatally flawed. that's why i went to the senate floor after it was packed for a doctor's second opinion on the impact of this law. the website is just the tip of the iceberg. you are right. there are cancellations of policies. the premium shock of people having to pay higher and higher. higher deductsibles, shire copays. -- higher copays. the issues of identity theft under this healthcare law. up believe it will continue to unravel. we ought to have a replacement in a way that's a step-by-step process. not a 2,700 page law. people knew what they wanted in healthcare reform. they wanted to get the care they need from a doctor they choose at lower costs. what we have is a one size fits

all government approach which is why yesterday i introduced legislation called the state healthcare choice act to allow more and more states to make decisions and opt out of different parts of the healthcare law. gregg: thank you for taking a few moments. martha: aid is finally getting to the people suffering in the philippines. the death toll soaring past 3,600 after a monster typhoon left a path of destruction. >> reporter: the u.s. says george washington is the consummate symbol of american power. but in the fill pints's a sign of hope. this huge aircraft carrier delivering food and freshwater. the carrier group has 21 helicopters and support ships.

it's doing something other countries can't do. deliver with speed and precision humanitarian aid in remote places. >> this one helicopter from the george washington about to deliver 150 boxes of food, freshwater too a remote village inaccessible by road mitt by the typhoon. as we approach this tiny town, the residents had written in giant white letters, help, need food on a soccer field. most of the homes had no roofs. so as we approached the town residents came running to the playing field. they immediately formed a fire brigade to unloaded the chopper. hundreds of people are watching. relieved because a broken bridge had prevented them from getting

food. >> there are a lot of small villages along the coast. luckily because of the ships we can access most of them. even though there is a lot of land mass, much of the population is right along the coast. >> reporter: there is another issue at the airport. some are criticizing filipino fissions, they are not allowing the runway space and they are denying space on the airplanes because they can't afford it. and opters get on for free. it's an issue that has to be worked out. >> reporter: a power boat racer flips his boat at 130 miles per hour and walks away from the whole thing without a scratch. he joins us live with his incredible story.

martha: president obama taking the blame after millions of americans lost their health insurance. we'll talk to one american to lost his plan and see what he thought of the president's apology and his new plan. >> i'm not a perfect man and i will not be a perfect president. [ woman 1 ] why do i cook? to share with family. [ woman 2 ] to carry on traditions. [ woman 3 ] to come together even when we're apart. [ male announcer ] in stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy and more, swanson makes holiday dishes delicious.

martha: in a lengthy news conference president obama repeatedly took the blame for obamacare. millions of americans who liked their health plan ended up losing it anyway. >> that's on me. we fumbled the rollout on this healthcare law. again that's on us. which is why -- that's on me. that's something i deeply regret that moved not to be the case. that's on me. so it's not on them, it's on us.

i'm head of this team. we did fumble the ball on it. these are two fumbles on a big game. is a said early on when i was running i'm not a perfect man and i will not be a perfect president. this was deserved. it's on us. >> interesting watching that yesterday. we have been talking to mike caudell who lost his insurance plan the last couple weeks. people say the president seemed sincere about feeling bad about how things had gone. what was your personal reaction? i know you watched the whole thing. >> i think watching this thing unfold the past few weeks, i have gone from being frustrated and upset to angry after hearing the president yesterday. to hear the president say in front of a national audience i would like to offer an idea. you are the president.

i'm not looking for to you offer ideas. i'm looking for to you come up with legitimate solutions to this problem. this is an urgent situation for americans. you have 104 americans partsf anthem blue cross that got cancellation notices. it's a very ugly situation. now the state commissioner in california came out yesterday with his response to the president and it's even worse, rate hikes are being forecast from these insurance carriers. martha: did you sign up for a new policy? remind us of your personal situation. >> i got my cancellation notice two weeks ago today. have i signed up for anything else? no. it's like o'reilly said we have to wait to see how this unfold? martha: would you take our old policy back if your insurer would let you do it?

>> that's a very interesting question. to answer it directly yes, i would take it back. but you have to listen to the president's words very, very carefully. he said extend and he said reenroll. that means i get through february 1 which is 30 additional days to decide what the new plan is i want for my family. that's a sticky situation. nobody is going to get to keep their policies. you will get an extension which doesn't really help you. martha: would you contact your health insurance and say here is my letter, i'm going to rip it up and throw it in the garbage and we'll stay where we were. >> two days tea go the "l.a. times" reported anthem is going to send out letters to the 104,000 californians who got their cancellation notices. as of right now as i sit here in this chair i have until december 15 to decide and what my new plan is and by january 1 i have

to have it activated. martha: what do you think about the legislation the house side is voting that would allow to you keep your health insurance if you liked it and they feel like it's a more comprehensive fix than what the president are proposing which as you points out is basically we are not going to tell the understand companies that they can't. that's basically what the president said yesterday. do you think this is something that could satisfy you and be solved legislatively at this point? >> this is a tough situation because you have a catch-22 happening. you have the legislators trying to couple with a way to treat affordable healthcare. then you have got insurance carriers who are man dated by the state commissioner on how they are going to roll these things out. manuel was on the kelly file and he said before this came down people were losing their

healthcare left and right. i have had healthcare all my life and i never lost my healthcare before i got this letter. they are running in conjunction together. i hope the legislators can figure it out. but right now i'm not optimistic. martha: stay in touch. i know you will wait and see and figure out what would be best for you. see if you can get your old understand policy back. let us know how you make out. >> you bet, thank you. gregg: a lot of folks just like mike. we showed you this amazing video out of u.k., a boat racer crashing 130 miles an hour. he lived to tell us about it. he's going to be joining us. how he cheated death next. when you have diabetes like i do,

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martha: the leaning tower of pisa is now officially 1 inch straighter, all thanks to $40 million it cost. they used cables and enormous lead weights. it has taken 12 years to moist that one inch. he says it's all worth it because he's hoping they can save the monument from certain collapse. gregg: a heart stopping moment as a power boat racer breaks his own speed record then crashes, flipping over and over.

the formula 2 boat flipping over 1 and a half times and landing upside down. the pilot walked away without a scratch. keith, we are going to show this video again to our viewers. you are there inside, something goes wrong, and you begin to go airborne and flip. talk to us -- what was that like? all right. unfortunately, skype has gone down. martha: shall i fill in? it was horrible. we flipped up and down. we went round and round and i survived the whole thing. gregg: he lost the record on a

technicality on the first run so he decided to do it all over again. he said i was kind of angry, i was in the right frame of mind. he thinks the ebb gin stalled. and when the engine stalled that causes the flip. but the amazing thing is he has an airbag to protect him in there and they do all this training over and over and off again in lakes and pools where they purposely submerge themselves. and that's how he learned how to survive. >> they probably have the same technology you see in formula one race cars. when you see them flip around and you see somebody walk out of it, they do an amazing job of building cages of support. he's okay, i'm sorry we didn't get to talk to him but that's an incredible piece of video. all right. so republicans getting their turn this morning as congress is set to vote on fred upton's bill

which is a law that would allow americans to each healthcare plans canceled under obamacare. the man behind that bill will explain why his bill is different than what the president has proposed. he's coming up. gregg: toronto's infamous mayor in front of the city council. the council is getting ready to vote on whether he should resign. breaking details on that coming up. >> no one is going to accuse me of having escorts, and doing lines of cocaine at a bar and former staff saying i'm making sexual advantages to any other staffers. i'm not going to put up with it. neutralize them and freshen. with glad odorshield with febreze.

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new york as meets with ted wells. high powered attorney, currently representing eliot spitzer as well and many big names. jonathan martin with a smile on his face as he walks in to begin the process of this investigation exactly what happened there. what went wrong. a lot of claims that he and richie incognito were friends. something clearly happened to cause him to walk out of that room and causing cog neat-o to be summarily suspended from the team. that is something he is pushing back on right now. more to come on that story. also this fox news alert as president obama is scrambling to make good on his latest cure for obamacare, meeting with insurance executives one day after announcing millions of americans could keep their canceled policies but will theywell be able to do that? how would that work? welcome to a brand new hour, everybody, "america's newsroom" on a friday. i'm martha maccallum. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. the president reversing course

and possibly creating another new mess by creating new rules to put the you can keep it genie back in the bottle. >> these talks coming as some in the insurance industry warn the last minute shift could actually destablize the market. wendell potter, former vice president of corporate communications at cigna. he joins me right now. >> thank you. martha: what went through your mind, i'm curious when you heard the president say about the substandard policies that were not good enough for americans, well, if your insurance company is willing to reissue that policy to you can keep it for another year? >> well, i went through, some of these insurance companies will take him up on the offer because at the end of the day it is all about the money. i spent 20 years inside the insurance industry. they're in the insurance to make money on policies. if the policies they were selling they had to discontinue, if those policies were profitable i'm betting they will reissue them. they will get back in touch with the policyholders to say, if you

want it another year? we're here for you. martha: but in many cases people have already been scrambling around websites and found something that is more expensive that would also be putting more money into insurer's pockets, correct? >> it could be. i have a friend who a businessman in alabama. he is republican, he often been writing to me. he got one of those letters i encouraged him, call another insurance company see if you might be able to get a better deal. yesterday he got an email, he said he actually had. he was upset that his policy was being canceled but he, blue cross of alabama is offering him a policy that has greater value at less money. so that is what my message is to a lot of people. even if you've gotten one of these letters, don't think that it is necessarily the best deal that you can find. martha: so shop around as the president has suggested as well. the president is going to sit down with insurance company executives today and what do you think he's going to say to them and what do you think their response will be? >> i think we i will say, look,

we need to try to do what's right for both your policyholders and for you, as, as business leaders and, so, if this is something you think can work for you and your businesses, please consider this. that's what i think that is the ultimate message in what the insurance companies will actually do, for them it is right down whether it is a business decision that making sense for them. martha: look at a quote that came out yesterday from the president of america's health insurance plans, from this company. he said, changing the rules after health plans have already met the requirements of the law could destablize the market and result in higher premiums for consumers. do you agree with that or no? sound like you don't? >> i think there is that possibility but i do think once people, you know, the point is, and the reason we're doing this because the federal exchange isn't working, i think it probably will and people will

start when it does work to find out that there are better policies available. right now we're in that period of time when we don't know that, a lot of people don't know that. i don't think the market will be destablized. i think more people, when they realize they can get better coverage for less money they will opt for that because it makes sense for them. >> what is your take on this whole thing? you watched this unfold and know so much about this industry works. >> yeah. martha: how will this end up in your mind? >> a lot oay a lot of attention to their health insurance. they will often pick what seems to be the cheapest policy this bill will be a brand new world we'll see whether choice and competition really does work within the insurance business. exchanges theoretically people will be able to shop for coverage in ways they haven't been able to do that before. that's a good thing in theory. we'll see in practice if it work that is way. i think it can. martha: you have five million very nervous americans who got devastating letters and who feel

the rug has been pulled out from under them. we hope you're right. wendell potter, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you, martha. gregg: meanwhile a live look at the house floor. the house is pushing ahead with its own solution to cleaning up this mess. lawmakers getting set today to vote on the so-called, upton bill. at least one senate democrat, who has her own proposal says the president's fixes are a good start but needs more to be done. >> the president's guidance is a great step forward. i have a bill. there are other bills that have been filed. we'll be working across the aisle, not to repeal the affordable care act, not to defund the affordable care act act. not to undermined the affordable care act. not to gut the affordable care act, but to fix it. >> chris -- gregg: chris wallace, anchor of "fox news sunday" joins us with his perspective. chris, i imagine the white house is worried about the fred upton

bill because in addition to recent sure recollecting canceled policies, it would allow insurance carriers to enroll new people, which would obviously take away a great many people from, you know, the obamacare federal exchanges and undermine its financial structure. >> yeah, there are more, gregg, worried about it. they flat-out said it will veto. this is really about politics on both sides. the upton bill would not only say you can keep your policy but as you point out, for old customers, but they would say that they could continue to sell these policies, which the obama administration has said are subpar, swiss cheese, to new customers. as you say that would really gut a lot of the whole point of obamacare and new exchanges and the president won't go for that. one of the keys though is how many democrats will go for it, not because they necessarily support it but because of the

fact they feel they need protection? the real story here is that congressional democrats, house and senate, are very worried. remember, that this passed on a straight party-line vote, obamacare did, so anybody who voted for it could be called the final vote, the both vote in the senate and house, who passed obamacare. and you can be sure in the congressional elections republicans are going to make a big deal of that. in fact the head of the republican congressional campaign committee said yesterday, if you don't like your democratic congressman, you doesn't have to keep your democratic congressman. one of the keys will be how many democrats vote for this. the key number seems to be 35. let me explain that before the president came out with this fix, the thought was, well there might be as many as 100 of 200 house democrats would go for this, would be a huge stampede a huge loss of support for the president. with the president's fix it will not be 100. 35 though was the number, the number of democrats who supported, delaying the

individual mandate for a year when it came up in the house in july. so if you get that number again, that indicates just how little support there is in the democratic party for the president's plan at this point. >> yeah. let's assume it passes the house. harry reid might not even let it get to the floor of the senate but what about senator mary landrieu bill? we just showed a sound bite of her talking about it? >> well, not might he not, he won't let, excuse me the upton bill get to the floor of the house, the senate, rather. there is no way he would do that. in terms of the landrieu bill, that is a little tougher. at this point democratic leaders are saying no, that the administrative fix the president announced is enough. they're very worried. you bring this to the floor that opens it up for all kinds of tough votes, all kind of republican amendments, from the democratic point of view all kinds of mischief making. they will not support this at all. the own reason i have a caveat there, i think democratic leaders are waiting to see how

much trouble these red state democrats are in, democrats facing re-election possibly in 2014. and you know, so they're leaving a little wiggle room whether they bring up the landrieu bill or some version of it, the upton bill, republican bill will pass the house today. no chance that gets to the senate floor. gregg: quickly, what do you have up on "fox news sunday"? >> we'll be all over this. we'll talk to top officials in washington and insurance industry, the latest where we stand on obamacare. we will have a interview with liz cheney, running controversial race against incumbent republican senator in wyoming. this is the 50th anniversary of the assassination of john f. kennedy. we'll talk to of his relatives, two people called him uncle jack. patrick kennedy townsend and patrick kennedy about their memories of jack kennedy and their views of what this 50th anniversary of his

murder means. gregg: what a terrific show. we look forward to it. "fox news sunday." chris, always, thank you so much. >> thank you. martha: we'll talk to the republican congressman who is behind all of this, fred upton, who's bill will be up for a vote today as chris and gregg were talking about. he will join us, we'll ask him exactly what would your bill will do to for the american people and how will it protect them and how many votes will you get. as chris said it will never likely see the senate floor. he will talk about his side of it today. >> toronto's mayor, we didn't know who he was, right? he is so much front and center and city council discussing a number of measures, they will vote whether or not that they recommend he resign. they are also at this moment trying to take away his power. they're trying to pass bills in their, among their group to basically take away a number of the merrill powers. they're saying if you won't

quit, we'll basically tie his hands when it comes to number of legislative moves. we'll see what his response is to that. we expect to see him coming up in a little bit. we'll talk to a attorney what he has. they behave him a tv show in canada. he is quite entertaining and somewhat loveable in a strange way. very enter it takenning in fact. we'll see what rob ford -- gregg: colorful. a way to put it. does the obamacare mess spell huge trouble for democrats? why one unnamed democrat said he can not believe just how bad the president has botched this rollout. the fallout for the next election coming up. martha: that is the best video of the morning. do you know who this is? jean-claude van damme, doing a split. i mean that's dangerous, right? look at that! gregg: got to hurt. martha: oh, my goodness. >> i mean they keep on opening up i can hold on to the ground -- >> they will stop opening up and

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gregg: take a look at this. a growing sinkhole in a neighborhood near tampa taking its toll as one house is utterly demolished, and another, well, may soon be. the two homes were partly swallowed up and seen by work crew as well beyond repair. the sinkhole began as a 12-foot wide hole but overnight, it increased to at least 90 feet. fortunately nobody was injured. martha: all right. so could democrats face trouble in the 2014 midterm elections because of the obamacare debacle? that is the political question of the moment, right? so one house democrat reportedly saying quite artfully, i don't know how he, meaning president obama, fed this up so badly and

doesn't work for the nfl. juan williams, fox news analyst and mary catherine ham, hotair.com and fox news contributor. good morning on that note. that is the kind of language being used by at least one democrat out there, juan, to talk about their situation. >> well, there is no question. the president sensed that, continuing the nfl analogy, martha, he fumbled. he said he fumbled twice in fact. people understand this was a huge loss, huge mistake. the question how do you get the ball going and how do you get it back? the problem is, president said himself, that is all we're talking about here this morning, it's a huge liability for his key political supporters, for democrats who have to go to the polls next fall. >> admitted just that. speaking of bad language, take a look back at this moment which was a ebullient and joyful way back. watch. >> [bleep] >> thank you.

>> it's friday. we're letting them fly all over the place. mary catherine, when you look back at that and look how republicans were demonized for being so horrible and so heartless that they would consider not wanting to pass this bill, right ? look where we are now. >> well, yeah, if i were a democrat and i ever said words like that which of course i don't i would asking the same thank. >> wait a second. i know better than that. >> i would ask the same question. it is a legitimate question. republicans were not just torn down for not wanting to pass the bill and called liars and worse pointing out it might have these unintended consequences. and we were told that bass not true. when it all pans out that way, of course democrats go, excuse me, how are we supposed to goat through this election. in 2010 they were making charge to pass this thing, when the american people were not excited about it, worried about it, president obama said you've got me. that is the difference. do we really think that will make a difference this time

around either? martha: feels like in many ways, republicans are holding back on the i told you sos. but you can bet they will be out there forcefully in 2014. gosh, it has been made so easy for them. all they have to do, stand up and say look, our side, if they're running for republican seat, we wanted to repeal this thing. we told you it was lousy. ted cruz, no matter what you think of him, he stood up there why? he wanted to give you a shot not having to deal with this. >> well -- martha: they have a long list of things they can sort of throw out there, we tried to protect you from this. >> ladies i would urge you in the way coaches say when you score a touchdown, don't act like first time you've been in the end zone, i would urge the two of you to slow down on celebratory dances here. martha: i don't think, not a whole lot of people celebrating about this. >> i think republicans are in fact, sort of gloating saying, you know, not explicitly i toiled you so, they don't want to be guilty of overdoing it at

this point, but i think lots of republicans are saying we did tell you so and snickering in the background while americans, i think are focused on two things. one is, can this be fixed? they would like to see something done about the status quo in terms of health care in this country but the second thing to point out to you, is, even as democrats are panicky about what's going on now, and political damage that you see to the president, his pole numbers plummeting, don't forget the overall rating for congress and specifically republicans in congress is far lower. they would be the delighted to have 39% approval rating. martha: well, you know, juan, make as good point, mary catherine. we'll see what happens. we spoke to a insurance executive says he does believe will shop around, you know what? it is okay. i got a different policy and world will go on. >> first of all, juan, touchdown dance is awesome. if i do it you will notice. >> yes i will. >> second of all, i think the problem going forward, can they

actually fix what is going on the ground? it is fair for people to wonder can they do this. i don't think the president has shown a track record of being able to do that. so, even democrats at this point are going, look you told us this was all going along swimmingly, every time he asked questions about it he either claims ignorance or totally uninvolved with the decision-making, that does not bode well for the future of this. no, i don't think republicans need to jump on board to fix this thing. they need to figure out a way to help restore what people lost around go in a different correction this future. we shouldn't trust the government for giant reform. martha: it is not about gloating and saying i told you so. we have the fact, we told you it wouldn't be a good idea. >> hold on. remember, the, the idea first of all was born on the republican side in terms of keeping the marketplace, keeping insurance companies involved. john mccain's idea when he ran for president was to take away the tax credit for companies offering health insurance. that would have been more

disruptive and. martha: do cross-border, cut down on litigation all that stuff. we may hear more of those ideas. juan, thank you very much. mary catherine, looking forward to the touchdown dance. yours too, juan. >> some day i might bring it out. martha: bye, guys. see you next time. gregg: it has been over 200 years since a cabinet officer has been impeached by the house of representatives. now there is an effort gaining steam to impeach the attorney general eric holder. what house republicans are saying now. martha: and a live look in toronto. the city council trying to strip the crack-smoking mayor rob ford of his political power. can they do that? >> the revelations yesterday of cocaine, escorts and prostitution, has pushed me over the line. and i used unforgivable language, and again i apologize. i got this.

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gregg: troubled toronto mayor rob ford back in the spotlight yet again. these are live pictures from toronto where the city council is trying to remove some of the mayor's powers. we have a columnist that joins us, commentator and columnist at canada's sun news network joining us now. what are they trying to do to him here? strip him entirely powers of mayor? >> more or less. there is ability to, deputy mayor to remove ability to appoint executives of committees and of course, branch into different departments and divisions which do in some ways more nitty-gritty management in council in general does. and to remove the emergency

powers. in times of crisis, the mayor might be able to facts tore than with council in general. and they want to strip him of all those powers. >> he is a volatile fellow as we can see in the videotape right now. and i understand it. red dilly admits, buying drugs, smoking crack cocaine during a drunken stupor. some of his aides ayou accused him of smoking pot and using escorts and prostitutes and so on, so forth, how much of that is true? >> well, and that is the battle right now, sort of media wars and public opinion wars going on in toronto right now. i will say one thing and important the world understands this. in 2010 there was a general movement from the chattering classes and, the mainstream media to portray this guy as a boarish fellow, rough-and-tumble, with tons of personal problems.

people voted for him, warts and all-knowing that. obviously the problems have been revealed now are a lot worse than people originally thought back then but there is still a surprisingly large level of support for the mayor. he is very polarizing. a lot of people want him out of office. a majority definitely want him to take a leave of absence and or resign. his approval rating hovers around 40% that is quite impressive for anyone holding any office. so still, it seems like the fight against the deeply entrenched political class, which i always argued what mayor ford represents, he doesn't represent himself so much as this symbol, there is still a great appetite for that. >> real quickly. i have only 30 seconds left. but he now will have a television show? >> that's correct. this monday at 8:00 p.m. eastern he will be hosting a television show on the network, i'm a part of sun news network. the bottom line he had a radio

show. it was hugely popular. that got canceled. if anything this is just a good business decision as we know the world wants to watch rob ford and want to see what he has to say. they will get their chance still. gregg: well, you know, people slow down on the road when they see a car wreck, and i suppose there's same analogy here. thanks so much for being with us, anthony. >> thank you. >> so as you know, the fight is on to allow americans to keep the health insurance plans that the president once promised them they could keep. republican congressman fred upton, his bill scheduled for a vote today, is the best way to do that. he will join us live and give us details. gregg: plus a major backlash after a bus driver lost his job because he was praying. >> they brung me into the office and they spoke to me and said we seen the video and you prayed

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>> we are back and there is action in the house where lawmakers are going to debate with bill that would allow americans to keep their health insurance policies. it goes one step further than

the obama fix but the president says he is going to veto the bill. let's talk to the michigan republican behind the bill. good to have you with us. welcome. >> thanks, martha. >> tell us what exactly does your bill allow people to do? folks thought they could keep their health insurance policies. then 5 million got letters saying that is not the case and now the president says you can keep it. >> what the president announced yesterday he could change his mind monday. our bill puts it into statue that insurance plans can come back and provide the same policies and those consumers have the choice of maybe they

have that policy forever rather than being forced into the exchange where they will pay a higher premium and their deductible will go up as well. not something they believed would happen. >> i heard debby shultz talking saying the idea is terrible because it would allow people without insurance to by sub-standard plans. is that true? >> why not allow people more choices or options? particularly as it relates to their own pocket book or health care needs. >> that is a good question a. lot of people might say that is

the plan i want. but the president said even if the house republicans pass it he is going to veto it. so how much democratic support is there for your bill in the house? they are coming up with an alternative. >> i don't know what their plan is. i know they were working on something but even the democrats didn't know what it was. my guess is we will get 40 democrats. but at one point it looked like hundred democratic votes were going to be on the table and that is when the president decided to do something. so he was content with messing up the lives of millions of

people. our bill brought it back and brought the attention pack and yes we can resolve the issue for millions of folks who found their premiums are going up and being stuck with a policy they don't want and can't afford and wabt want to retain the choice they had. and i don't think it would have passed had they not been able to make this promise. >> you are saying you had democrats who have been nervous this week buzz they are afraid of loosing elections because of this. you think you had hundred democrats who would have voted were your bill and that is what sent the president to the podium. i can understand that polyti

politically but at at home i am saying am i covered or not. >> that is why we got a hundred sponsors to address this >> they are saying it is too late. we have taken it away. >> it doesn't mandate that the health insurance policies has to be granted again -- have to -- it allows the choice, you know individuals can make those decisions, but we are trying to give as much time to allow them to go forward and be able to resolve some of the folk's

needs. >> we will be watching. thank you. >> thanks. >> fired for praying. a rutgers bus driver is fired after trying to pray with a wheelchair-bound passenger. what happened here? >> we ahis employer he left the for failing to security the wheelchair but he said it was because of his religious behavior. and more than 67,000 students have signed a petition. >> he believed in us.

>> i walked off stan's bus feeling more inspired and motivated. >> mcneal isn't bitter but does miss the students. he was asked to tone down the religious talk. but when he prayed on a student that was the last straw. >> they said we don't do that here. and they said we don't want to fire you because you are a good worker. it would look better on your record if you resign. >> mcneal says he wouldn't do anything different because his faith is who he is. >> what does the bus company say about this? >> we respect the religious believes and the positive messa

messages. unfortunately a review showed he failed to follow an immediate protocol. rutgers isn't saying if they received any complaints about him. they are referring calls to the bus company. >> some lawmakers are filled

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going to let that happen. i am going to try that over the weekend. >> eric holder is back in the news. he is speaking out as a resolution calling for his impeachment gain steam. house republicans filing several articles alleging that he committed high crime and misdemeanors as tenor of head of justice. he is saying this: quote i have serious things to engage in and that is how i am going to devote my time. good to see you both here. you know the second ranking committee of the house says that holder misled them, ie lied,

failed to provide documents, and both of those were articles of impeachment for bill clinton. is this legit? >> when eric holder said i have never heard of anyone prosecuting the members of the press and he heard of james rosen being prosecutes and approved it personally that was hinky. this is the same administration that said if you like your plan you can keep it. >> it not just fast and furious and failure to provide docume documents. the house has voted to hold him in contempt. that is part of the impeachment

argument. here is what eric holder said about reporters. >> with regard to the potential prosecution for the press for disclosure of material is not something i have been involved in or think would be wise. >> that is not true. he approved the search warrant in the case. >> yes, and i think the american public has the right to know the answers. we saw a guy on television a guy was lying about what he saw was of the interest in the case. so i don't think it is politically smart to do the so many elements and cases. i think what the squeaky deal

needs to do is pick a battle and take it all the way. they voted for contempt before and move forward with that. it muddies the water when there are all these complaints. all administrations are deceptive, kind of lie -- i am not saying it is right. >> one of the other reasons he is failing to do his duty and not enforcing certain laws like gay marriage laws and pursuirin the irs. it is illegal to force laws for legal ground. >> you can make the case and go

to congress, but impeachment isn't going to happen. the republicans have something. eric holder sucks. he is a horrible attorney general. when he said i am going to deal with important things -- like what? you have people giving out personal irs to their enemy. i would say keep beating the crap out of him. he is a great political gift. obama isn't going to get rid of him and they will not impeachment him. >> good to see both of you. >> let's go to john scott and find out what is coming up. >> we are going to try to keep it clean but always a handful especially after the news

conference from the president yesterday. we have team coverage, in-depth analysis, judy miller is here and our legal panel is going to weigh in. plus on outbreak of tb, the new discovered knee ligament and myths about jfk including audi recordings from the day he was shot. >> a new knee ligament. >> yes! >> the money making technique that property owners are extra rooms are using. are local government going after these folks unfairly?

>> here is a question: is big government going after the little guy? the state of new york has outlawed the process of renting out room tos to tourist. >> victoria doesn't know much about the apartment because they just arrived they preferred to stay in a home while visiting >> a lot better than being in a hotel. it is more convenient because this breakfast is amazing. >> the couple renovated this apartment and decided to make extra money renting it out. >> i love meeting new people from all different parts of the world. >> very interesting.

so, i guess it is their prerogative if they want to rent out their place >> you would think so. hotel industry lobbied and the politicians said he need to regulate and collect tax. i cannot rent and we cannot rent for less than a month in new york city state. but despite it being illegal and them subpoenaing the paperwork at air b and b the customers keep saying we want this and the market is growing. >> you think people did that a lot in tough economic times; renting out the garage. >> and now you can see or people said it wasn't smelly and they were not ripped off.

you can rate each other. >> what about the neighbors? i don't want my next door neighbor renting by apartment building out all of the time. >> that is a decision for the apartment building to handle if they allow it or not. but the one size fits rule for everybody isinstructdestruction. >> i understand you tried to buy a gun >> they make it tough in washington, d.c. and new york. the process is unbelievable. >> tune in to see if he gets the gun. we have mixed reviews on whether or not that should happen. thank you. we will look forward to it. more on the little guy this saturday night. >> we are awaiting a key vote on a republican plan to fix obamacare. we have it covered for you. keep it here.

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>> keeping your health care plan active being debated on the house floor. there is going to be a vote. it's a big one. we're keeping an eye on it. martha: if you like it you can keep it. thank you for being here this week, gregg. >> it's been fun. martha: happening now starts right now. jon: top headlines and brand new stories you will see first. jenna: president trying to sell insurance executives on a short-term fix for the broken health care promise is what some say. we're awaiting on a house vote on a solution favored by republicans. is it enough though? that is the big question. 50 days after one of our nation's dark days, newly enhanced audio from the day president john f. kennedy was assassinated. the effect it could have on lingering theories about his debt. discovering a body part we never knew we had. where it is and what it means. it is all "happ