that is great. >> we'll leave you that on friday. thank you for joining us. >> have a great weekend. americas news headquarters starts right now. fox news alert for you. in the nation's capitol republicans are pushing a head with their own solution to help americans keep their own current health plans. a bill would try to prevent the wave of insurance cancellations. welcome to hq. i am alisyn camerota. sdmshgs i am gregg jarret in for bill hemmer. it is not only for those who lost them but anybody who wants to buy them right now. here is michigan congressman fred upton just moments ago. >> our straightforward one page bill if you like your current coverage you should keep it and the president should heed his

own advice and work with the congress as founders intended and not around the legislative process. nchris is our host of power play on fox news.comlive. hi, chris. i have that hr"3 strikes and you're out" 50 in my hands and i need your help understanding it. it allows americans to keep the health care plan even if they don't meet the rules but does it reinstate the cancelled policys for the 5 million people? >> no one can do that except for the insurance companies and the state level regulators and perhaps not even them. perhaps it is too late because you had more than 5 million cancelled policies and it may be too late to turn around. the president got immediate blow back from the partners in the

insurance industry what said wait a minute, you can't dump this on us. we don't know if we can do it. it is dangerous to the coverage of the 80 percent of the americans who have health insurance through the employers and so today president brought ceos and the construction and passage of the law that are concerned about what is happening to their business. he brought them to the white house and they will talk about ways to rescue the law. >> why didn't you do that yesterday before he cape out with the plan? >> i never have seen a panic as bad as this. the magnitude of this and the president's calculated decision not to honor the promise. and keep the promise and predicated to the belief of the impact and policy cancellations took place. i may have misled you. you can go in the handy dandy

obama care exchanges on line. the failure of the administration to launch that website is proving consequential as americans increasingly believe that the president lied to them and deceived them and not that it is unintended consequence. he is desperate to get back on track and the realities will have to wait until the political solutions. now the president understands it is bigger than he thought with 5 million canc layings and he wants to help people who find themselves in the posugz. why is he threatening to veto the upton bill. >> if this law would be to mosey over to the senate where democrats are calling for legislative action and moderate democrats like mary landrieu and joe manchin and calling the

president a fix or a start where you begin, the concern that substantial changes to the law could be made and they need a bright line and only changes that happen to this law is the ones that the president himself will enact and congress shouldn't get in plan. remember this is an administration that has a terrible track record for working with congress even with the democrats, they are not good at it. and if it gets this away from them it could get veserated. nare democrats in the house going to vote for the upton bill? >> yes. not all of them. but a good number of them. we had a test vote similar to this in july when the law was in better standing and the president was not in the 30s in the job approval rating and the majority of the americans thought he was trust worthy and honest. the law and the president are in worse condition than in july when the house voted to delay

the fines and penalties. back then 35 democrats bucked a white house veto and threatened to do it. this time they will vote, a lot of democrats will have to vote for anything that is against obama care to try to save their skips. but the stakes are higher, now real changes to the law are taking place and so it is not just a she vote. it will have to do with how much pressure is on harry reid in the senate to let something come out for a vote there. >> chris, if the president doesn't have the authority to force private insurers to sell a particular plan for a particular price, does congress have that authority? snshg no. this at this point, we are not talking about saving all of these plans, there is just no way and the president waited seven weeks while the wrecking ball swung through on the plans

to say stop coined of but don't really. the hope on the left we heard from liberals and hearing it yesterday and today, keep the destruction going, the only way you get to full obama care implementation is in the policies are destroyed and if more are destroyed next year. and force people in obama care. he wants a fix to give him cover and shifts the blame and keeps the democrats from bolting on him. he can't have one that works. it was verseerate his law. that's not what he wants. >> you make my heard. i appreciate your miley cyrus wrecking ball. >> there were balls before twerking. >> who knew? chris great to see you. >> you bet. >> in the meantime president obama is trying to get the insurance industries on board with his fix, meeting with

insurance excutives after warnings that last- minute changes could destabilize the market. melissa francis host of money with melissa francis joins us to talk about it. the president for the better part of last ten days blamed the insurance industry. and all of the sudden he steps in front of the cameras and microphones and asked them to bail him out. so what is the reaction of the insurers? >> i mean, it is not surprising they are not thrilled and in fact one speak toth new york time said they feel like they robbery thrown under the bus. and the citigroup analyst said the complexity of uncancelled millions of policies with six weeks left in the years staggering. a etna came out with a statement. itate regularalators would need

to allow us to get the plans and secower appropriate rates. they are scrambling to put it back out there but not at the same price. this is the mess and they are holding the bag now. and they are not happy. kim with the wall street journal had a piece today and explained it nicely. here it is on the screen. it is highly unlikely most insurers can rip up business plans and rates and policies and tables and get state regularalator approval and reprogram their computers and cent outside notice and give consumers time to think and in one month that remains before the december 15th deadline. do you get the sense that the president and the people who are advising him in the white house are utterly naive when it comes on to what goes on in the insurance industry? >> i don't know if they are

naive as maybe they don't care and don't want the blame for what is going on. what they are asking for is outrageous. pull the product from the self and then put it back on is not how business works. one of the problems is different prices and rules and places. how can you have one policy to follow a rowel and another one exempt from the rules. that creates dislocation and higher prices and it is a mess and put in the laps of the insurance companies. that was not a naive move. it was calculated move. >> we dealt with the insurance commissioners out in california. and these guys have immerse power. >> they do. >> and some of the regulators in washington state are absolutely saying no way, right in >> and a lot of this will come down to state regulators and that will give insurance companies and president cover.

but the insurance regulator saying we are not going back and a boyd by. this they got their state exchange up and running and feel like it is a success. they did all of the work and now the president is undoing it. it is just one situation. every state commissioner and regulator will have to decide the rules on the fly for their state. wow, i don't envy them their job. >> melissa, thank you for explaining it to us. >> we are watching the house floor and waiting for the vote on the upton bill that is trying to offer a solution to all of those insurance plan cancellations. we'll bring you the latest when we have it. minimize blood sugar spikes. support heart health. and your immune system. now there's new glucerna advance with three benefits in one. [ male announcer ] new glucerna advance. from the brand doctors recommend most.

>> we are keeping a close eye on the house floor where we will have breaking news soon. we are waiting for the upton bill and it would extend old

insurance policies for another year not just for those who had them and lost them but anyone who wants to buy them now. we'll monitor this and bring you the developments as soon as they happen. another growing scandal may be swirling around the secret service yet again. according to the washington post. secret service engaged in sexual misconduct and other questionable behavior in a total of 17 countries. the newspapers said those claims were made by a whistle-blower to a u.s. senate committee. this is just one year after the secret service agents were entangled in a prostitution scandal in colombia in a presidential trip there. >> casy mcfar land joins us. what is going on? is there a loosening of

standards in national security? >> yeah, obviously. people snicker oh, ha, ha, ha what is a sex scandal? no, this is a serious problem for the following reasons. when i got my security clearance. they look for anything that you could be blackmailed. look at 17 different countries. they are potentially blackmailable. and that is a problem. whether they are in a position and this dpies was not on the president's security detail and part of protecting the first family, it doesn't matter. we have had enough examples where it is rotten in the core and no one is held accountable. they don't get foured and they get reassigned and apologize. >> and a bonus. the secret service is under the

treasury department, but the military is having similar scandals are they not? >> there were two senior naval officers who were accused of some coined of financial ma lfesance. we see a pattern. sexual or financial or just dereliction of duty and no one is held accountable. that is a attitude of the entire united states from the president of the united states on down. if something goes wrong apologize and i department mean to do it. but there are significant and serious consequences. >> we reached out to the white house for a reaction and response or statement from the secret service and we received none. but i want to pick up and expand on what you just said. are you telling me, that sort of

easy lazy at to youed to the stuff and scandal iminants from the top and including the attitude from the white house? >> sure, gregg. pick up the head line in any newspaper. it is a president and senator or congressman or caught in a sexual scandal. he apologizes and everything is okay. and you have got somebody accused of a number of things and rather than being held accountable or foured or prosecuted, what happens? they get reassigned and it starts at the very top with the president of the united states. there is a major problem, right with a roll out of obama care and benghazi. what do we do? we don't hold anybody accountable. we find low- level people and they are reassigned. but no ones reputation is destroyed and it is time to bring back accountable.

we have seen time and again if they are not held be responsible things happen again and again. >> it does risk national security. people in the government can be blackmailed by virtue of the sexual scandals and it is a real serious threat. we'll leave that for another occasion. kt. thank you very much. the president obama's health care fix was designed to help the democrats. we'll look at the proposal and how it could help the republicans in 2014. >> the only way to fully protect the american people is scrap the law once and for all. there is no way to fix this. of gevalia house blend over thtaste of starbucks house blend? not that we like tooting our own horn but... ♪ toot toot. [ male announcer ] find gevalia in the coffee aisle

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there is a coalition course over fixing the obama care. the house is getting ready to vote on the upton bill to allow americans to keep the plan. the president said he will veto bill if it reaches the desk. we have a julie who is a democratic advisor and thank you for both being here. julie, let me start wuf. the president is not playing politics and wants to fix the things for americans that have cancellationlers. why is he threatening to veto the upton bill. >> i am not excusing the president's behavior because there is not any excuse. i don't think upton bill is the

right solution. they will go back to the battle days and allow the old plans to be in effect. if you have a preexisting condition that excludes you and out of pocket cost that xoeds the cap they will stop covering and if you have cancer, they can throw you off of the roles, and so all of that his components in the upton bill that is not just in compliance with the rest of the affordable care act but what republicans say they don't like. >> it is more than that. it is purely politics that is identified in the wall street journal. republican fred upton's bill would allow insurers to sell policies to new customers and the old, this would increase the odds that the industry would want to sell profitable policies outside of the obama care

exchange. and mr. obama can't tolerate that because it establishes a viable insurance market with consumer choices that competes with his exchanges. the president doesn't like the upton bill because it helps consumers? >> there is a few problems that the president is facing. it is extraordinary. we have the president of the united states threatening to veto a piece of legislation that is quite literally named after his most presidential promise. that is unspinable. they can try to spin and the upton bill is bad for various reasons, you can't spin it in the end of the day with the american people which i why dozens of house democrats defecting and defying the white house veto threat and voting with the gop. there is one other layer of incoherrence going on. we heard deinousiation from

kathleen sebelius and jay carney saying that the upton bill is dangerous and damaging to the market and infeasible logistically and then yesterday, the president announced a fix where he is imposing by decree most of what the upton bill accomplishes. it is puzzling and the president's credibility is shot on this and he earned every bit of this problem. >> the numbers on the screen are to allow the vote. the democrats vote numbers are not on the upton bill but we'll bring that to you. julie, we understand today, the president is meeting with the ceo's and executives from the insurance companies and shbt shouldn't he have done that sonar. yesterday when he came out with the fix. they put out a letter actually the president's fix threatens to destabilize the market. >> as i said in the beginning, i

am not supportive of the president's behavior and no excuse to allow the debacle it got to and no means am i suggesting that the president is on top or the white house or people working for him did a good job implementing the signature accomplishments. i am not. to me, the upton bill is not the right solution and all of the views on. this battle days when you get thrown off of the rolls if you get cancer or covered because you had cancer and they would not give you health care is not the way to go back. it is the wrong way to go. it would. it goes back to the days when you can do that. >> what do you respond? >> the guarantee issue and community rating of obama care are not affected by the upton bill. >> it is. >> the upton bill extends

regulations from the past that allows people to keep their plans if the insurance companies decide to keep them. >> you are not the only two confused. in all of these competing bills and thank you for the debate and we'll see what happens in the rest of the hour as congress sorts through all of this. >> thank you. >> and the u.s. military is boosting the military efforts for the typhoon victims in the philippines. we'll have a report of how our armed fores are making a difference in the lives of so many people. nhouse is goring up on the crucial vote to allow americans apparently keep their health care plans. we'll be live on capitol hill with the latest. >> why not allow the option. and health care needs. what is the matter for that? .

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the president's promise. this would be legislation to allow millions of americans to keep their policys. what democrats don't like it allows the insurance companies to continue to sell themmine if they don't meet obama care standards. nancy pelosi said earlier she was concerned it was like unravelling the sweater and urging members to vote no. it is a tense week for democrats here on capitol hill this week. they have had closed door meetings and begging the white house for a solution. they stuck their necks out and they are hearing from constituents and that it is a mess that they are losing their health care they like. the president offered an administrative fix and this is a legislative fix. the law makers don't like the white house going around congress to fix a law and all

eyes will be watching to see what the democrats follow leadership nancy pelosi and the white house or they will go along with fred upton saying my constitiens want a legislative fix and this bill available to me i will vote yea on this one. >> does it reinstate the policies of 5 million americans cancelled or moving forward people can continue to keep their current subparplans if they have them? >> there are many questions about. that you have all of the insurance companies that have done a great deal of work to rework their plans to meet the obama care standards and told these policies would not be good and questions of math work can you offer cheaper policies and expensive policies and who is buying what and that sort of thing. my sense is that insurance ceo's

are pulling their hair out and they will meet behind closed doors with president obama this afternoon. and they can say if it is feasible. and still many, many questions. and house members want to go home to the constituents and saying we are trying to keep the promise that the president made and we passed a bill and we'll see how much bipartisanship is involved. >> it is it a legal quagmire because health insurance is regulated state by state and then you have the feds issuing rules as to what the insurance carriers should and should not be doing. you might see a lawsuit here, and so nancy pelosi is trying to hold the coalition of democrats together against this. and any idea how many will vote in favor of this? >> reporter: fred upton thought

100 democrats would vote in favor and that's why president obama offered an administrative fix. the question 20 or 40 democrats will go along. and there is a lot of at risk democrats on the ball on the and the president is not of course. and they may be saying, look my constitiens want congress to fix it and so i voted in favor and we'll see what they say after the vote. nmike emmanuel thank you for setting it up. we'll bring in chris stierwalt now. thanks for sticking around. this is a real pickle for democrats? >> it looks like 40 voting with the republicans to do this despite a strenous objection with the white house. this is not the massive number of democrats they would have gotten had the president not come out and did what they did

yesterday. but if they are bucking him. democrats demanded that the president do something. he acted and they said not good enough we are voting against you and bucking the threat anyway. and the pressure is starting to mount on harry reid and senate democrat asks what kind of vote do they bring forward? >> can harry reid sit on this as he sat on so many house bills in the course of the last six weeks? >> i don't know what harry reid likes in this life except for one thing. he likes to be the majority leader of the united states senate. he would not enyoi being the minority leader of the united states senate. he will do whatever it is that keeps the democrats in the majority in the senate. if he thinks he can do that by sitting on this he will do it. he will not do it for avoiding discomfort for barak obama.

that's not what harry reid will do. he will do what is best to prevent seven losses to love him in the minority. >> none of this has anything to do with americans keeping the coverage they like because the president said he will veto this. it is it an exercise in futility except it gets every law maker on the record. >> the president said a lot of stuff. he did say if you like it you can cope it and that was not true. and he said he wouldn't make changes to this. and delaying the imposition of the new insurance regulation would be harmful. he did that yesterday. you don't know what things will be like until you get there. it is one thing to say veto and he could veto this if it gets through the senate. what comes through a senate would be a version of the

landriue bill and include a delay of the.and individual man date we call it. >> the upton bill would undermine the financial structure of obama care by simply taking people away from the federal exchanges. the lanrieu bill would not do that would it? >> the president already did it. that part of the argument is moot to a degree. some providers will be retisient to make the change on the potentially constitutional cop tested power of the president to make the change. they may not want to do it on a rule change and may have more weight coming out of congress. you cannot put that tooth paeft back in the tube. >> chris. we have breaking news. the house approved the upton bill. we saw the gavel going down

moments ago while we were speaking. i don't have the numbers for you. but we are looking. 261 to 157 and it passed. and so now what, chris? >> now what. here we are. it looks like we are 39 democrats voting against the white house. that is larger than they would like to have seen. it is not a disaster, but it is a continuing of the crisis, the crisis continues and what the president did was not a patch or solution. we have impericcal evidence that for democrats it is not going to feed the bull dog and more will have to be done. the question is, can the president brazen it out and stand out there and last through this or are democrats going to force him to make essential changes to the law and based on what they forced him to do yesterday and said it today.

one thing he will not be able to escape. >> chris, we are so happy you stuck around. and chris, hang on and we'll need your help later in the program. but right now we have another guest. >> we'll bring in joel scarborough. and the author of the "the right path." from ike to reagan and republicans master politics and can again. i wonder if republicans are mastering a bit of the political theater here? >> today shows that in politics a weeks a lifetime. it was not too long ago and a fox news poll that showed democrats in a much better place right now than republicans. and you guys have a few poll that shoes those numbers have flipped and fred epiton and republicans are coming up with

a viable alternative and helping the president cope his promise. >> we have that poll. it does she an 11 point swing. after the government shutdown, democrats were the beneficenceary of that and obama care, republicans swung in favor. is it enough now for the republicans to back in the glory of the democrats debacle or do they need to present their own plans? >> of course, that is the key. and i talk about reagan and ike in the bock and what we did back in 1994, we opposed to bill clinton's budget and hillaries health care plan. we presented an alternative. we didn't like bill clinton's budget or big spending and john casack came up with an alternative. reagan anyhow how to connect with the middle-class voters.

you don't beat something with nothing and we need a conservative alternative and moderate temperature. >> republicans say in 2009 they presented health alternatives. tort reform and insurance exchanges and had ideas and never caught fire. >> talk to tom coburn. he is frustrated that harry reid is a glorified pocket veto for barak obama. and we have to stay united. i saw john mccain going after the people who shut down the government last month. and i have great respect for john mccain. but at that point we have to come together. scott walker in wisconsin, chris christie and john casack. and look outside of washington d.c. and see republicans in the country are doing great things and doing it conservative idea

logically and pragmatic and moderate temperly. >> you write about how george bush's two wars andtrina led to the collapse of the republican party. and is what happening now obama care and this utter debakele. whichine the administration and president himself admits, and that looks, no near end, is this worse for democrats? >> i don't know that it is worse for democrats, i tell you who it is worse for. washington d.c. the fact of the matter is recollects 10 or 11 years. we have seen washington drive up massive deficits and bail outs and health care plan and again yes, republicans presented alternatives and barak obama instead of shufing it through the senate with 51 votes, he is paying for that now.

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allow expanded sale of individual coverage. but the president's fix raising a new can of worms. >> he's under fire for skirting congress and amendmenting the law without their consent. ger articledo rivera has thoughts. so what the president did yesterday, does he have the authority to tell insurers what to do. >> he can say to the federal government, don't prosout and don't punish insurance companies that do that. he exercised his discretion in the same way with the dream act i cans and would not deport innocent kids brought here. that was an administrative fiat. >> but what the insurers. >> i am sure he will be challenged in court as he was on whether or not he has the authority as you ask alisyn. i believe he hasn't lost yet.

and there is six. >> it is still pending and there are indications that the judiciary will not come in to stop the president. it is up to the state insurance commissioners to decide and they have to offer the policys. >> the president effectively by yesterday changed the date. and you look at affordable care act section 1513. mandatory language. amendment made by the section. shall, my emphasis, shall apply to months beginning after december 31, 2013. there is no choice or discretion. >> let me submit to you, as a lawyer you read it one way. and a pragmatic person look at it the other way. look at what he did the prosecution of marijuana

offense. i am not interested through greg holder, i am not interested in prosecuting marijuana fences. you read the law. if you have an ounce of grass you are guilty and yet if the dea doesn't arrest you for yet arrest you for it that is a dtht has been allowed. we saw the democrats and the republicans vote. they needed like 100 democrats it seems to me to get the m momentum going. and force the vote and then a reconciliation and then still, even if they got that, the president has vowed to veto it. we are he goi ining to have thi mess around for a while.

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welcome back. to some extent the main stream media is laying into the botched roll out of obama care. but now some of the media are saying the problems could spell big trouble for the president's second term. hi, greg. the botched roll out has brought the president plenty of negative press. there is a broader indictment that goes to credibility. you saw this in the press conference where you had ap's

july pace saying has this led to a confidence in the government? do you not believe sir that the american people deserve more accountability from you? "new york times" this morning, likeening this problem to what george w. bush faced with the mid handling of katrina. officials believe that the president had to go out there and had to take it. had to bear the brunt of the media criticism and try to turn the page here. but where i think this is a turning page here. where you get to comparisons to katrina. and you couple that with the polls, there is no question that this is the poworst press that e president has gotten while being in office. by the way, you have bill o

o'reilly coming up on media buzz right? >> we'll be watching. thanks. >> all right the white house threatening to veto today's health care vote. we'll be right back.

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miles's father said he is grateful for everyone's help in making his wish come true. >> all right thanks for watching everybody. have a great weekend. the real story starts now. >> fox news alert everyone. welcome to a friday edition of the big story. the president pitching his short-term health care fix minutes from now. ceo's from some of the nation's top companies will be there. he is going to convince them to extend policies for at least another year. his attempt at making up for his promise if you like your health care you can keep it.