at running a company. >> okay, with that, charlie, thank you. the ceo of walmart usa. how he's going to respond to all these unions bashing him. on fox business tonight at 8:00. see you then. hello, i'm dana perino along with kimberly guifoyle, greg gut felt and bob beckle. this is "the five." 12 more days until we hit the president's self-imposed deadline of getting healthcare.gov working. the administration promised it would be up and running by november 30th. by up and running, they mean 80% of the time. jay carney was asked about that today. >> the issue here is, can we make the website function effectively for the vast majority of users who go on it? >> very few democrats have called for heads to roll over

this month but one of them is robert gibb, the president's former press secretary. >> i think they'll have to hold somebody accountable for the botched rollout and the website not working. somebody at hhs. >> you think somebody should lose their job? >> i think if this were to happen in the private sector, somebody would have probably already lost their job. the only way to restore ultimate confidence going forward is to make sure whoever was in charge of this isn't in charge of the long-term health care. >> last friday, 39 house democrats voted with republicans on the keep your plan act. and facing that kind of opposition. tonight, the president is going to try to rally his partisan troops with a conference call from the white house. let me first play this sound bite from minority leader pelosi and then the sunday shows. listen to this. >> i don't think you can tell what will happen next year but i will tell you this, democrats stand tall in support of the affordable care act. we have great candidates who are

running. >> we could be in a much different place three or four months from now. this is an enormously challenging time. the political notion that the republican platform's going to be getting rid of health case millions of people will be signed up. it's an impossibility. >> i'll start with bob today. bob, it was your birthday last week. you've had a great weekend. you're hitting the ground running. tell us, do you believe pelosi when she says the democrats are standing tall and that when he says they've got nothing to worry about? >> i tell you, they are very disciplined. they had a caucus. the ones that voted for the republican bill are ones who clearly are in marginal districts. i think what he said has some merit. there will be millions signed up for this. for better or for worse. that means you're going to be taking on people who now have insurance because of the affordable care act. and do you really want to take them on? >> well, eric, every day that

goes by, we get a little bit closer, because of all the fixes the administration is announcing. a little bit closer to what republicans are asking for in the first place. >> okay, first, regarding what he said, you said millions will sign up. i can't make that assumption. maybe millions will be thrown off their insurance also. two pieces of news that you pointed out. the fixes. nancy pelosi said you have to fix it before you find out what's in it. she's right. over the weekend, we found out this risk corridor. basically says if you're an insurance company, you're supposed to take on high-risk -- high-risk people, and for that risk, the government will back you up. if you take on people with pre-existing conditions and it costs you a lot of money as an insurer, obama care will pay you on the back side of it. we found out this weekend that's in there. and the other one is now they're talking about, the obama administration's talking about going around the website now. now, you can probably go at some

point directly to the insurers. you and i talked about in the green room -- >> that's what we said all along. >> is that what we've been saying? >> what are you talking about? you said 5 million now. the upside of more people losing their health insurance is much lower than the number who are going to get health insurance. >> incorrect. >> not according to congressional budget office. in the end, the numbers are -- >> oh, million, come on -- >> so risk corridor? only in washington can they come up with language like this. >> sounds like a stallone movie. >> the government gets you coming and going. if you are a citizen and you sign up, you probably will qualify for a subsidy. if you are a business and you're having a hard time meeting those demand, you also can get money from the government. at this point, isn't the government just trying to take everything over? >> i go back to what i've said many times. the web side is just a cough. the disease is liberalism. sooner or later, they'll be able to cure the cough. what's left is this tumor, this

progressivism that's eating america from the inside. i think what somebody has to make clear is they need to expose the direction of the white house, liberalism, as flintstonian. if you spend a weekend the way i did, i used itunes, i used seamless, i used netflix, i used hulu. for getting my food, for getting movies. i had thousands upon thousands of options before me that i could use to make my life better. i chose the food for thousands of menu items in the city. i piblgd the songs. i picked the songs i wanted. the movies i watched. what i'm saying, that is the direction of our country is options. and meanwhile, what you have a white house that going in the opposite direction. a one size fits all model. that is basically patterned after east germany. somebody has to point out that he is going in the wrong direction. >> they don't care. that's the problem. it's like me trying to shove last year's winter boots on ronnen, they just don't work, they just don't fit. >> i thought you were going to talk about my jeans.

>> yeah, you're putting on my jeans. let me ask you something about the president's poll numbers. because across the board today, even after the president announced his fix on thursday, over the weekend, all the different polling groups came out and said the president's approval numbers continue to at least slide. who knows if that will stabilize over this week. let's listen to senator gillibrand who was on yesterday who said they all knew about the lie all along. let's listen. >> did you feel misled by obama? >> he should have just been more specific. because the point is, if you're being offered a terrible health care plan that the minute you get sick you're going to have to go to bankruptcy, those plans should never be offered. >> so were you misled? >> he should have just been specific. no, we all knew. the whole point of the plan is to cover things that people need, preventive care, birth control, pregnancy. >> i like her a lot. i think she is a breath of fresh air. but i'm concerned that they don't understand the depth of

anger across the country about plans being canceled and the government saying, well, of course we knew, but it should be -- it should just be okay? >> well, apparently america's become collateral damage for this administration and waver th whatever they need to do to achieve their goals, they're going to do it. if some get left behind in the process, that's just what's necessary to get to their end game. what if 80% of iphones worked? what if 80% of pacemakers worked? these are unacceptable standards they feel are okay to put on everyday america. >> the other thing is, a lot of these insurance plans that have been canceled, they are substandard policies. and the fact of the matter is people are going to find that choices are much bigger than they had before, and they're going to be much better insurance plans. >> that could be -- that logic could be applied to my diet. you could actually say that, you

know what, the choices that i make over the weekend are substandard and you know better than me. that's what you're saying. >> what makes them substandard? because a guy -- because a 60-year-old guy doesn't want to cover maternity leave -- >> 60% of the bankruptcies in america are directly attributable to medical -- >> no, what about his question? >> my point is is obama care wants people to spread the risk around. spread the payments and spread the risk. so people who have higher risk are being supported by people who have lower risks, higher payments. it's really -- >> it's socialized medicine! >> socialism and socialized medicine absolutely. it's never worked in anything. >> did you -- >> no, the point, bob, this is what it is -- >> why is the administration -- >> why is an insurance plan that i pick, what i want, how i want to be insured, how much i want to pay in a deductible, why is that substandard? how are you going to tell me --

>> a good example is the woman in florida highlighted as having her premiums go up by ten times when, in fact, she now says i'm glad i didn't -- >> i don't get the point. >> there's a lot of substandard plans that will bankrupt people and they have. 60% of the bankruptcies in america are directly attribu attributable to health care costs. >> why did the president do a press conference and have this quasiapology and say, other we're going to allow insurance company, you can sell your old plans back, that's fine, you can have them. which is what people wanted in the first place, a choice. >> now we get back to, is there any issue over the past year, benghazi, irs, syria, any policy the white house has put forward that didn't all come down to politics? >> no, i certainly don't think that syria did by a long shot. i think he reacted appropriately. i think he should have launched but he didn't. >> was that a political decision? >> a political decision to go into syria? is is that a popular political decision? not even close.

>> i'm just saying i think tonight's phone call, eric, the partisan group, this army of people he'll try and rally people tonight from the white house. the people who have had their substandard plans danced are not necessarily republican or democrat. i have no idea who they are. >> you see the numbers pretty clearly. >> what -- >> you don't have anything with that, but you know there are 5 million of them -- >> but they're not identified as partisan. >> not only that, bob, they're not all substandard -- >> 5 million is the right number -- >> because they have to report it. >> 5 million people reported it? >> so far, yes. >> to who? >> the insurance company has to tell -- they have to tell the administration -- >> you have 5 million -- >> so far, in six weeks or seven week, 5 million. >> my favorite thing, arguing facts. those are the numbers. >> just put this out there though. i got invited three times to this conference call. three different times.

>> it's not a conference call, either. in today's day and age, it's a press conference. >> three types been asked to join this thing. there's no way this will work out for them. i don't even want to hear it. until they get back to what weem been talking about. allow insurance companies to sell insurance across state lines and stop the mandate crap. you can't main date this especially when you're supposed to make a payment by january 1st, right? >> december 15th. >> have to have made a payment by then. >> 40 million people uninsured -- >> that's what you're going to have -- >> they're not going to collect. so you have -- >> it's a different number every night we talk about. so it's 30, 45, sometimes saying 50 million. congressional budget office said 30 million will be u.n. insured. now you have people who are insured, responsible citizen, now they're insured too. so what have we accomplished? >> in this a block, i would say a lot. what do you think? >> what? oh, i'm sorry, i was thinking

about what i was going to eat for dinner. >> you just had a banner weekend. >> yes, it was pretty good. >> what was the worst thing you ate? >> i had ribbed. i watched "pacific rim" which is an excellent film. these dine a sores fighting robots under water. >> did you watch that sober? >> yes. >> good thing to put in this obama care conversation. >> i'm just trying to get out of here graciously. come up, alec baldwin, he went nuts on another reporter for trying to ask him a couple questions. we've got that tape. also, fox's exclusive interview with toronto's crack-smoking mayor. i can't believe i said that. >> i'm not an addict. i'm not an alcoholic. maybe some people are, but i'm not. >> bless him. >> ahead on "the five." >> pretty funny. >> maybe some people are.

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as the obama care ship continues to sink, once loyal passengers have started to jump overboard. politico. obama care's threat to liberalism. the ap, obama health care woes become credibility fight. and national journal, incompetence, deception and lack of accountability still hound white house and health reform. and also there's this. an historically black college, buoy state university. >> you haven't done anything, obama, and i'm disappointed in you. >> obama care's expected to cost about $3,000 a year. do you think you can afford that? >> i can't afford anything right now. i can't even afford my loans. >> we don't have that money. we can barely afford books. >> he said he is for people but actually he's not. he's putting money in white people's pocket instead of

helping black people out. >> it was hyped up to be that it would solve a lot of problems, help a lot of people, and it's not really doing it. >> so problematic. you can't deny whether you're going to get your, you know, sources from a variety, across the board. it's pretty uniform, people voicing criticism and concern. even in areas that before used to be very supportive of the president, any policies he wanted to put fourth. what we have now are comb pauses. they're saying, look, we feel abandoned. what do you think? >> what you saw right there is a microcosm of what's going on, not only on campus, but anyone who is newly to the job market, anyone who is young, anyone who is healthy, they'll see these policies and say i can't afford it. the obama administration will come back and say, don't worry, we're going to give you tax relief on your income taxes. but the problem is, you still have to pay. your deductible, the $3,000 or

$4,000 deductible has to come out of your pocket up front. what are they going to do? are they going to hand out cash saying, in case you get sick, here's $2,000? i don't know where it's going to go. it's going to go to a place that is bad for. >> everybody there's not one of those kids who could be on their parent's plan if their plants had a plan. >> maybe their parent's plan got canceled. >> explain to me, bob -- >> just get something -- >> why do we keep using these biased right wing outlets? >> so the smallest plan, there's a $3,000 deductible. >> yes. >> you have to pay that first, right? how are these thinkids going to afford this? >> be on their parent's plan until they're 26. >> they're in college and they're smart. they figure trd od it out alreae con job. >> i don't believe there's a $3,000 deductible. >> that's what it is. >> says who? >> it's in the -- you got to

just look at the plans, bob. there's a bronze, silver, gold and platinum plan. goes from a $2,000 deductible to a $6,000 deductible. >> point is, it's too high. it's catastrophic. try not to get run over by a car or bus or train because otherwise you're in big trouble. >> the problem here, the media and liberals in general have a long-term memory of a goldfish. so just because you have allies and you have people on campus being critical of obama, don't think for a minute they're going to run into the open arms of sarah palin, they're going to find another crazy fall in love with. someone who's going to be just as progressive as president obama because that's what always happens. they refuse to learn from history. the challenge for republicans and conservatives is they got to be able to explain to young america and rouse them from this once exceptional beast, from their slumber of dependency. because right now, it's what he said in the a block, he said, don't worry, they'll have their

health insurance. they'll already be addicted to another arm of dependency. so don't -- like, listening to this idea that it's the end of the world for liberals, that's just going to kill your ambition. this stuff is still going to go on. it's still going on. the republicans may think they're going to win by a landslide but if they think that way, they're going to lose big. >> okay, but let me put this out though. let's listen to mark shields on obama care saying it's actually a threat to liberalism. take a listen. >> if this goes down if the obama -- if health care, the affordable care act is deemed a failure this is the end. i really mean it. of liberal government. in the sense of -- any sense that government as an instrument of social justice, an engine of economic progress, which is what divides democrats from republicans. that's what democrats believe. >> othkay, bob is sound like he has a condition over here -- >> dana has a chance to weigh in. >> i would say a couple things. remember that the reason obama care started, the stated reason,

was to help bring down health care costs. and to help make sure that people didn't go bankrupt if they ended up getting sick. that's how kids think. that they'll just try not to get sick or, you know, they don't understand things actually end up happen to you. but you learn that later in life. i think the bigger concern is unemployment number. and president obama continues to oversea an economy that is very anemic. in "the new york times," on the front page yesterday, was an article that was chilling. long-term unemployed. 4 million people. within the first six month, they have a 20% chance of find a job. after six months, it goes down to about 10%. you are seeing people who are now unemployed for about four or five years. they've eaten up all of their savings. they can't get medicaid. they can't find a place to live. they're exasperated their family's good will. i think this bigger problem for students not being able to find a job and their parents being unable to find a job which means

they can't have health insurance for kids to be on their insurance until they're 26. it's a lot bigger problem than we're able to deal with in a five-minute block. >> just when you think you can't get any worse, here's brokaw. >> well, there have been several points but this is certainly a low point at a critical time coming into the 2014 elections and a lot of democrats beginning to bail on the idea of obama care. i would think, given the importance of obama care or the affordable care act, eight months ago, the president would have started every meeting with, how we doing? is that going to be ready? suddenly landed the way it did, in utter chaos, and it's not going to be an easy fix, is just inexplicable. >> mark shields is a good friend of mine. i've admed aadmired his work. the idea that liberalism is dead because of obama care. i keep hearing these rumors about conservativism being dead.

liberalism may take a shot but it will be back. it will always be a formidable force in american politics. >> the arrogance of one party leads to the rebuilding of another. if the other party actually tries to rebuild itself. nothing unites a couple more than watching another couple fight. and that's why when the republicans squabble, there's nothing happier than a liberal. and the media delights in internal conflict. that's why the republicans have to let them focus on the turmoil of the left by "wtf," win then fight. >> even families, think about your family out there, maybe a family of two or three or four and you have to come up with $3,000 or $4,000 extra in deductible you have to put forward first. you're going to walk away. you're just going to say, what have we done? >> what were they doing two years ago? >> what do you mean were they doing two years ago? >> did they have health care? >> no, they had plans they were

paying for. >> if we had a good health care system, but it was lousy. >> it was sub par. >> they were sub par. >> it hasn't given people the sense they are being responsible and will be able to take care of their families in something happens. i don't know what's going to end up happening. but this -- it will not be allow to stand as it is. >> all right, we're going to leave you're right there. ladies and gentlemen, the hold, b block, not bad. more hollywood hypocrisy directly ahead. matt damon takes on the bush family in a new rant about public school education but he didn't do his homework. we're going to give him a fact check. plus, an alec baldwin alert when "the five" returns. stay with us.

a while back, jeb bush nailed matt damon for saying all kids should go to public school except for his own of course. damon brings it up again. >> the private school i send my kids to is the thing closest to the public school that i went to that i could find. and that's why i send my kids to private school. i wish i didn't have to. it's expensive. and i also want to -- my kids to be part of a, you know, of their local community. >> so that was a criticism. i think it was jeb bush tweeted that. and then he retracted it pretty quickly. although its eat my shoe if he could name a bush that ever even walked into a public school but that's another story. >> better start basting those loafers, matt. this is dripping. several bushes went to public school. even if every bush went to a private one, it's not like they're saying only they get to go, which is why matt's faulty

logic wilts like his last three films. thank god shoes don't count as a carb, matt. it won't ruin your diet when you eat it. which brings us to alec baldwin, fresh from an anti-gay rant, he lost it once again this weekend. >> you're the one that almost hit my wife with a microphone in a face? >> i honestly did not. >> you want to apologize? >> i asked you a question. okay, get the [ bleep ] out of here. >> -- nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong. >> alec -- >> another idiot -- >> as mentally disheveled as his hair. he has been a creep to people. especially cruel for reasons that were as cowardly as they

with vile. the only thing worse than tantrums are the mobs they attract. the problem with baldwin, without a script, those are the only words he knows. he's just a bucket of feted swirling resentment. like desperately seeking a hair dresser to play his gay friend. >> let me ask you a question. do you think i'm a homophobe? >> no. >> thank you. >> that is such a lie. you can tell he has no hair dresser. look at his hair. damon and baldwin share the same disease. the idiocy they spout isn't directed at you or me but actually themselves. they rage against the sins of hypocrisy they commit each day. for it eats them up inside. all you can do is laugh and you know that they hold you in higher regard than they do

themselves. so, dana, basically, matt damon to me reflects the perfect cloistered celebrity liberal. you must bear the brunt of his beliefs but he doesn't. >> it's all relative vism too. he says, the private school, even though it's really expensive. he's a multiga zilliononaire. i don't care if he sends his kids to private school or not. to try to rationalize it and to make everybody else feel good i think is ridiculous. why don't they just move? alec baldwin obviously hates living here. he gets in trouble every week. they have the means to be able to leave a little bit outside the city and you can have a car and driver. >> i don't know, k.g., do you think matt should own up and eat this shoe? >> yes, he can eat it. it has no heels so i'm not interested. >> yes this

>> not me, i want all schools to be bad. i want bad kids. baldwin is an angry scattered soul. msnbc suspended him for i don't know a couple weeks. >> two weeks. >> should though have done that, knowing what they were getting into? they knew what he was. >> i don't know why they picked him. you knew it was a ticking time bomb. i think they get what they deserve. >> parading a hair dresser, his hair dresser. imagine if you did something like this. oh, here's my gay friend, the

hair dresser. you would be laughed off the plan ets. >> quick thought on alec baldwin. i think he's a gluten for the attention. he'll take any attention. i guess it's an addiction, right where even if it's bad, he'll take it. he gets a lot of attention for it. we know it's all about it. hot heads. on matt damon to say public -- you know, public schools are really important and they're great but i'm going to send my kids to private school because it most mimics the private school. we're not that stupid, cut the crap. bottom line is you want to go there, just go, send your kinds to public schools. >> i think they should be honest and say i send her to private school because the public school isn't good enough. which is why i'm working on behalf of public schools. >> he didn't even go to public school. they went to private schools. the same one that dzhokhar tsarnaev went to. >> i remember when president carter sent his daughter to a

public school in washington, d.c. a very good one. i think it depends. if there were not good ones, i expect he would have send her to a private school. >> infamous crack head. stick around or dana will suffocate a hamster. >> oh, dana.

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rob ford is still the mayor of toronto but most of his powers were just stripped away. the breaking news out of toronto, where the new news for the mayor came after things got nasty. >> what is happening? >> so this is during the council meeting earlier today. the mayor ran over and pushed that council woman down as she was working to address the speaker. in any rate, in just the last few minute, the toronto city

council voted to cut his budget by 60% to keep him from introducing any legislation and to transfer power to the deputy mayor. he is mayor in title only. >> thank you, shepherd. the new news, k.j., mayor in name only, as dana points out. >> i mean, i guess he can still hand out the cards, but who's making the decision? this is very bizarre. he's incredibly popular. you saw the footage. out with the crowd, with the games. he's like, our mayor's better than your mayor. it's a bizarre story. >> roll that sound by the of the mayor. >> i admitted to using illegal drugs in the last year, okay, i've admitted to drinking too much, okay, so i'm dealing with it. i am training every day. i am in a gym for two hours every day. i'm seeking professional help.

i'm not an alcoholic. i'm not a drug addict. have i had my outbursts in the past? absolutely i have, john. but you know what, i'm only human. i've made mistakes. i've apologized. that's all i can do. >> all right, robert, illegal drugs, check, drinking too much, check. he's only human. >> aft seeing that clip, i've seen and known a lot of alcoholics in action in my life. he can say what he wants to say. that is an alcoholic and addict. >> dana, very popular, also, the numbers since he took office, the unemployment numbers are going down and the property values are going up. >> i was just curious, so if he's doing all of these things to get better and he's spend time in the gym, when does have time to be mayor? and when your city becomes an international laughingstock, even if it's a fun distraction for us for a while, it's probably time for him to go. >> can i throw something at you? would you rather have rob ford as the mayor of new york city or

de blasio as mayor? >> no question, rob ford. i have to say, he is giving crack a bad name. i would rather take a free market drug addict than an amateur grad student trying to turn the usa into a faculty lounge at brown. >> everybody. >> yeah, that's for bob. >> got to leave it there. still ahead on "the five," deck kamds -- i'm association we'll start that again. in the five decades since the jfk assassination, there have been all kinds of theories about whether lee harvey oswald pulled the trigger and whether he alone acted alone. but what does the kennedy family think? surprising answer from jfk's niece when when come back.

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it appears as if something has happened in the motorcade route. >> -- spread eagle over whoever is in the car. at this point, it looks as though it could have been one or two or even all of the people in the car may have been the victims. may have been struck by shots. >> there's only one word to

describe the picture here and that's grief and much of it. it's official, as of a few mo h minutes ago, the president of the united states is dead. >> 1963. a day i'll never forget along with many americans who were alive that day. it's been almost 50 years since jfk was assassinated. people still wonder whether lee harvey oswald acted alone. the late president's niece is one of them. here's robert kennedy's eldest daughter kathleen kennedy townsend on fox news sunday. >> i don't know, i don't know. i think it's -- i don't know. >> do you question it? >> what i -- what we learned from that letter from my father is that we're not -- i'm not going to solve that problem. >> i think there's a conspiracy theory that's going to go on until time and memorial. do you think there was a conspiracy theory? >> number one is the dems did it

because jfk wasn't liberal enough. and the other conspiracy -- >> that's a good one. >> you were pushing to do this segment four days before the anniversary because it's a distraction from obama care debacle. >> thank you very much. dana, can we get back on topic? >> yes, i really -- i don't know. i've read the -- all the different conspiracies. i wasn't alive then at the time. i'm curious, what do you think happened? >> for a long time, thought there probably was some evidence that there were other people involved. i've now come to the conclusion it's been investigated by so many different angles, if there was a conspiracy, it would have gotten out by now. >> people love conspiracies because they're more interesting than facts. the facts are simple. he was a cop nift. he was a communist. "the new york times," so many media outlet, blame america for this, they blame dallas for this. i'm surprised "the new york times" didn't blame the tea party for this, that they built

a time machine and went back and killed the president because they can't accept the fact that it was something -- an ideology they might have admired behind this. >> yeah. good spin. >> here's the deal when you look at something from an investigate gaer to standpoint, there's a lot of speculation. i think you have to be very careful not to go on a wild goose chase unless the evidence supports it. could they have done probably a better job, more thorough investigation at the time, perhaps even if they had the technology? perhaps. but we're left with what we have right now. you know, to work with. >> the weird thing is the guy getting shot after. that's the thing -- >> that was, but let's keep in mind that he was somebody who died of answer, a close admirer of jfk's or -- and he was also allowed in the dallas police station on a regular basis. this thing has been

investigated. the great theory about the lone gunman. there's been a lot of things that have been disproven about -- allegations about this conspiracy. in my view, as i said, the warren commission was a very good and solid commission. i think they got the information. what we now know is enough to say oswald acted alone, but it will never go away. one more thing? >> interesting gesture. >> bob beckle. >> i don't believe my colleagues here really meant those things. one more thing is up next. thrusters at 30%! i can't get her to warp. losing thrusters. i need more power. give me more power! [ mainframe ] located. ge deep-sea fuel technology. a 50,000-pound, ingeniously wired machine that optimizes raw data to help safely discover and maximize resources in extreme conditions.

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time now for one more thing and eric is kicking us off. >> you've probably seen this over the past couple of days, it's gone viral. is that banned yet? >> viral is banned. >> popular video. little kid, that's little bo and theo the pictures of the kid and the dog sleeping to the. so this morning the family, including mom jessica were on fox and friends and this happened. >> jessica, if you want to put one of them down, go ahead. there you go -- >> no, leave that one. put the other one down. i'm just kidding. >> give me the dog. >> can i point something out, jessica? >> oh --

>> okay, we want theo. >> oh, i was just kidding. i was just teasing. >> so that was my recommending, no, keep theo the dog and put bo on the side. i got beat up all day on the internet. but you have to understand something. i'm a dog lover. look at this picture someone sent to me. pie brother-in-law sent this to me today, that's freedom and me. >> perverted. >> we have bffs. i love that dog. >> what is going on. the dog and the baby weren't getting along so she said why don't you try to get rid of one of them, she tried to get rid of the dog, i said no keep the dog. >> if you go to the five facebook page you can see bob with the dog. interesting. >> this show is going to the dogs. hey, you know what i got? i got a new iphone cover. check it out. it's i don't know who this guy is. it's cody simpson. but he's really cool. and i think he's on a skate board and he's going to be the next justin bieber. that's my new phone cover.

it's amazing how i can hold that right now. we probably need a ban. i'm so tired of politicians referring to folks as if they hang out with folks. the people that say folks are never around folks. just call them people. >> you know who uses those quite often? >> who? >> bill o'reilly. >> oh, really? >> who's looking out for the folks. and dana. >> i can't ban it though. >> i like folks but i grew up with folks so i can use it. >> you're next. >> awkward moment kwn ogs the five." >> i've got something i'm very excitedabout. christy shiller started this program called canines for kids dot organize and we thought about this idea in response to the violence and shootings in schools, that it would be a good idea, nice alternative. take a listen to what she has to say about the program. >> i think that canines provide a softer, gentler alternative to a gun. and i'm sure that there's some teachers out there that are qualified to handle a gun. but i think forcibly asking them

to do so just puts our teachers in a bad position. >> and that's from the sit-down with jamie colby about this organization. and her organization would, in fact, provide the training, pay for the dogs, if you apply to have one of these dogs come to your school. so it's a very -- it's a unique approach. children love dogs, and they're specially trained so if a child is allergic or fearful the dog knows to stay away from that child. i'm all for making schools safer so i think it's a great idea. >> i'm against it. >> bob, do you have a dog segment? >> no, i don't. i have a much more upsetting date in history. 35 years ago on this date in jonestown, ghana, the -- the people's temple leader, jim jones, convinced about a third to a half of his people to drink kool-aid, which was a poisoned batch and 909 people died including a third of those being children. now i was involved in this in a way that leo ryan, who was a

congressman from san francisco, who most of the people down there were from his district kept insisting on going down there. i was in the carter administration, we asked him not to go for various reasons that i can't disclose here. i went to see ryan three times said please don't go down, because if you do you're going to find this thing's going to explode. he went down, it exploded. it ended up with his death and the death of everybody with him except for his administrative assistant. and 909 other people died, including jones himself who took his own life. >> and that's where we get the phrase drink the kool-aid. >> but the irony of it is it wasn't kool-aid. it was flavor-aid. >> but everyone says -- >> that is an interesting fact. >> it is an interesting fact. this day in history. i'm going to do something where i call your attention to an issue. it was an article i read last week in the religion. another example of how the government is just going a little bit too far. department of transportation putting new rules for truck drivers in regards to how much time they have to rest and they have to sleep. truck drivers want to be as safe as everybody else. they work really hard to put

good equipment on their trucks, they want to -- deliver their goods, department of transportation please listen to the comments and don't get too onerous. thank you for watching "special report" is next. president obama's 80% solution to obama care. and a possible political solution to the accountability question. plus senator rand paul joins us for center seat. this is "special report." good evening miami bret baier the obama administration is not denying a report that it would happily take a four out of five approach to declaring the president's health care reform plan a success. but even that relatively modest achievement may not be enough to keep some in the administration from losing their jobs. we have fox team coverage tonight. mike emanuel is on capitol hill with congressional democrats in