these unions bashing him. on fox business tonight at 8:00. hello, everyone, i'm dana perrino. i think that's greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." 12 more days until we hit the president's self-imposed deadline of getting healthcare.gov working. the administration promises the website will be up and running by november 30th, and by up and rupp i meaning, they mean 80% of the time. jay carney was asked about that today. >> you're looking at that statistic simplistically because the issue here is can we make the website function effectively for the vast majority of users who go on it? >> now, very few democrats have called for heads to roll over

this mess, but one of them is robert gibbs, the president's former press secretary. >> i think they're going to have to hold somebody accountable for the botched rollout and the website not working. somebody at hhs or a group of people. >> you think somebody should lose their job? >> i think if this were to happen in the private sector, somebody probably would have already lost their job. i think the only way to restore confidence going forward is to make sure whoever was in charge of this isn't in charge of the long-term health care. >> 39 house democrats voted with republicans on the keep your plan act. facing that kind of opposition, tonight the president is going to try to rally his troops with a conference call from the white house. let me first play this sound bite from minority leader pelosi and then david plouffe from the sunday shows who they think the democrats don't have a problem. listen to this. >> i don't think you can tell what will happen next year, but i will tell you this, democrats stand tall in support of the affordable care act. we have great candidates who are

running. >> we could be in a much different place three or four months from now. no doubt this is an enormously challenging time. i think the political notion is the republican platform is getting rid of health care. millions of people will be signed up. it's an impossibility. >> i'm going to start with bob today because it was your birthday last week. you've had a great weekend. here you are hitting the ground running. do you believe speaker pelosi when she says that the democrats are standing tall and david plouffe when he says they've got nothing to worry about? >> one thing about democrats, they are very disdisciplined, a they had a caucus. the one that voted to the republican bill, most of whom are in marginal districts and so they did that. i think what plouffe said had some merit. i about the time you get to the elections, there will be millions of people who will be signed up for this thing, for better or for worse. that means you'll be taking on people who now have insurance because of the affordable care act. do you really want to take them on? >> well, eric, every day that

goes by, we get a little bit closer because of all the fixes that the administration is announcing. closer to what republicans were asking for in the first place. >> first regarding what plouffe said, bob, you're assuming millions will be signed up. i can't make that assumption, number one. number two, maybe millions will be thrown off their insurance because in the first month and a half, 5 million have been thrown out. the fixes. nancy pelosi said you have to pass it before you find out what's in it. she was right. over the weekend we find out this risk corridor. the risk corridor basically says if you're an insurance company, you're supposed to take on high-risk people. and for that risk, the government will back you up. if you take on people with preexisting conditions and it costs you a lot of money as an insurer, obama care will pay you on the backside of it. we didn't know it was even in there. we found out this weekend that's in there. now they're talking about the -- the administration's talking about going around the website

now. now, you can probably go at some point directly to the insurers which you and i talked about in the green room. >> that's what we wanted to do, too. >> you said 5 million now. the upside of more people losing their health insurance is much lower than the number who are going to get health insurance. >> incorrect. >> not according to the congressional budget office. so risk corridor. only in washington can they come up with language like that. >> it sounds like a stallone movie, "risk corridor." >> the government gets you coming and going. if you are a citizen and you sign up, you probably will qualify for a subsidy. and then if you are a business and you're having a hard time meeting those demands, then you also can get mope from the government. so at this point, isn't the government going to try and take everything over? >> the website is just a cough. the disease is liberalism. sooner or later they'll be able to get the cough syrup and cure the cough, but what's left is this tumor, this progressivism

which is eating america from the inside. i think what somebody has to make clear is they need to expose the direction of the white house, liberalism as flintstonian. right now if you spend the weekend the way i did, i used itunes, seamless, netflix and hulu for getting my food and movies. i had thousands and thousands upon options before me that i could use to make my life better. i chose the food from thousands of menus in the city. i picked the songs that i wanted and the movies that i watched. that's the way -- >> who's better than you? >> no, but what i'm saying is that is the direction of our country is options. and meanwhile, what you have is a white house that is going in the opposite direction, a one-size-fits-all model that is basically patterned after east germany. somebody has to point out that he is going in the wrong direction. >> they don't care. that's the problem. it's like me trying to shove last year's winter boots on ronan. they just don't fit. >> i thought you were going to talk about my jeans.

you putting on my jeans. let me ask you something about the president's poll numbers because across the board today, even after the president announced his fix on thursday, over the weekend, all the different polling groups came out and said the president's approval numbers continue to at least slide -- who knows if that will stabilize over this week. let's listen to senator gillibrand who was on yesterday who said they all knew about the lie all along. >> did you feel misled by obama? >> he should have just been more specific because the point is, if you're being offered a terrible health care plan, that the minute you get sick, you're going to have to go into bankruptcy, those plans should never be offered. >> so were you misled? >> he should have just been specific. no, we all knew. the whole point of the plan is to cover things people need, preventive care, birth control, pregnancy. >> i like her a lot. >> yeah. >> i think she is a breath of fresh air, but i am concerned that they don't understand the depth of anger across the

country about plans being canceled and the government saying, well, of course we knew, but it should just be okay? >> well, apparently america has become collateral damage for this administration. and whatever they need to do to achieve and effectuate their goals, they're going to do it. if some people suffer or get left behind or uninsured or get sick in the process, that is just what's necessary to get to their end game. that's what i think. 80% is not good enough. what if 80% of iphones worked, pacemakers worked? these are unacceptable standards they feel are okay to put on everyday americans. and it's dishonest. >> but the other thing is, a lot of these insurance plans that have been canceled, they should have been canceled, but they are substandard policies. and the fact of the matter is, people are going to find their choices are much bigger than they had before, and they're going to be much better insurance plans. >> that logic could be applied to my diet. you could actually say that you

know what? the choices that i make over the weekend are substandard, and you know better than me. that's what you're saying. >> what makes them substandard? a 60-year-old guy doesn't want to cover maternity leave? >> 60% of the bankruptcies in america are directly attributable to medical. >> no, answer my question. it's a good one. >> what obama care wants people to do is spread the risk around, spread the payments and spread the risks so people who have higher risks are being supported by people who have lower risks, higher payments. it's really socialism -- >> it's socialized medicine. >> -- and socialized medicine, absolutely, and it's never worked in anything. >> you guys keep coming back to the birth control thing. can you come up with -- >> why is an insurance plan that i pick, what i want, how i want to be insured, how much i want to pay on the deductible, why is that substandard? how are you going to tell me -- >> a good example of this is

that woman in florida who was highlighted as having her premiums go up by ten times when, in fact, she now says i'm glad that i did lose it. what i'm saying is there are a lot of substandard plans that are going to bankrupt people. and they have. 60% of the bankruptcies in america are directly attributed to health care costs. >> why did the president come out with this quasi-apology and say we're going to allow the insurance companies, you can sell your old plans back. that's fine. you can have them, which is what people wanted in the first place. >> pure choice. >> are there any issues over the last year, any white house policy that didn't come down to politics? >> no, i think he acted appropriately. i think he should have launched, but he didn't. >> right. was that a political decision? >> no. a political decision to go into syria? is that a popular political decision? not even close.

>> red line when he said it? i'm just saying i think that tonight's phone call, eric, with the partisan group, organizing for action, this is his army of people, he's going to try and rally them tonight from the white house. the people that have had their substandard plans canceled are not necessarily republican or democrat. i have no idea who they are. but i think that -- >> y'all seem to know the numbers pretty clearly. >> what? >> you don't have anything -- you know there are 5 million. >> well, yeah, but they're not identified as partisan. >> and not only that, bob -- >> how do you know that 5 million is the right number? >> because they have to report it. the companies have to report it. >> 5 million people reported? >> yes. >> so far. >> to who? >> they have to tell the administration who they're throwing out. so far. in six weeks or seven weeks, 5 million. >> my favorite thing is arguing facts. >> those are the numbers. >> can we just put this out there? i got invited three times to this conference call. >> are you joining?

>> no, i'm not joining. >> oh, my god. >> it's not a conference call. in today's day and age, it's a press conference. >> three times i've been asked to join. i'm not going to do it because the bottom line is there's no way this will work out for them. i don't want to hear it. until they get back to what we've been talking about from the beginning, allowing insurance companies to start selling across state lines and stop the mandate crap. especially when you're supposed to make a payment by january 1st. >> december 15th. >> 40 million uninsured. that's what you're saying. >> they're not going to collect on it. >> it's a different number every night that we talk about. it's 35 to 45. some have said 50 million people uninsured. even after obama care, 30 million will be uninsured. now you have people uninsured, responsible citizens, now they're insured, too. so what have we accomplished in this "a" block, i would say a lot. what do you think? >> what? i'm sorry. i was thinking about what i was

going to eat for dinner. >> you had a banner weekend. >> yeah, it was pretty good. >> what was the worst thing you ate? >> i had had ribs. i watched "pacific rim," which is an excellent film. it has, like, these dinosaurs fighting robots under water. it was incredible. >> wow, did you watch that sober? >> yes, i did. >> that sounds like a great movie. >> that's a great thing to put into this obama care discussion. >> i'm just trying to get out of here graciously. coming up, hollywood hot head alec baldwin went nuts on yet another reporter for trying to ask him questions. and also a fox exclusive interview with toronto's crack-smoking mayor. i can't believe i said that. >> i'm not an addict. i'm not an alcoholic. i'm not a drug addict. maybe some people are, but i'm not. >> ahead on "the five." ive." >> pretty funny. >> maybe some people are.

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♪ it's got me under pressure as the obama care ship continues to sink, one loyal passenger has started to jump overboard. first the media. "politico." obama care's threat to liberalism. the a.p., obama health care woes become credibility fight. "the national journal." incompetence, deception and lack of accountability still hound white house and health reform. and then there's the youth. bowie state university. >> it's obama's fault. you haven't done anything, obama, and i'm disappointed in you. >> what are you going to do for health insurance now? >> not get sick. >> obama care is expected to cost $3,000 a year. do you think you can afford that? >> i can't afford anything right now. i can't even afford my loans. >> we don't have that money. we can barely afford books. >> he said he's for his people, but actually, he's not. he's actually for the money in his pocket instead of helping

the people out. >> when it was hyped up, it was supposed to solve a lot of problems and help a lot of people, and it's not really doing that. >> so problematic. you can't deny whether you're going to get, you know, your sources, across the board, you're going to see it's pretty uniform, and even in areas that before used to be very supportive of the president, the administration, any policies he wanted to put forth. what we have now is even campuses, okay? at the school they're saying, look, we feel abandoned by it, eric. what do you think? >> what you saw right there is a microcosm that's going to go on with anyone who's newly to the job market, anyone who's young, anyone who's healthy, they're going to see these $3,000 to $4,000 policies a year. then the administration will come back and say don't worry, we'll give you relief on your tax forms or stipends later. but the problem is, you still have to pay. the $3,000 or $4,000 or $5,000

deductible has to come out of your pocket up front. so what are they going to do? are they just going to start handing out cash saying in case you get sick, there's $2,000 just in case you get sick? i don't know where it's going to go. it's going to go to a place that's going to be bad for everybody. >> there's not one of those kids who could be on their parents' plan until they're 26. what they edited here was all the negatives. >> speak to me, bob. >> why do we keep using these biased right-wing outlets? >> tell me this. the smallest plan and there's a $3,000 deductible -- >> yes. >> -- you have to pay that first, right? how are these kids going to afford that? >> they're not. that's the problem. >> stay on their parents' plan till near 26. >> they're in college. they figured it out already. the con job, right, greg? >> i don't believe they're $3,000 or $4,000 deductibles. >> that's what it is! >> says who?

>> it's in the -- you've got to just look at the plan, bob. there's a bronze, silver, gold and platinum plan. it goes from a $2,000 deductible up to a $6,000 deductible. >> the point is it's catastroph catastrophic. try not to get run over by a car, bus or train because you have to bandage yourself at home. >> the problem here is the media in general have a long-term member of a goldfish. just because you have allies, don't think for a minute they're going to run into the open arms of sarah palin. they're going to find another crazy leftist to fall in love with, someone who's going to be just as progressive as president obama because that's what also happens. they refuse to learn from history. the challenge for republicans and conservatives is they've got to be able to explain to young america and rouse them from this once exceptional beast from their slumber of dependency because right now it's what plouffe said in the "a" block. he said don't worry, they're going to have their health

insurance. there already going to be addicted to another arm of dependency. so don't -- listening to this idea that it's the end of the world for liberals, that's just going to kill your ambition. this stuff is still going to go on. it's still going to go on. the republicans may think they're going to win by a landslide, but if they think that way, they're going to lose big. >> let's listen to mark shields on obama care saying it's actually a threat to liberalism. we didn't hear this kind of thing before. take a listen. >> if this goes down, if health care, the affordable care act is deemed a failure, this is the end. i really mean it, of liberal government in the sense of any sense that government as an instrument of social justice, an engine of economic progress which is what divides democrats from republicans. that's what democrats believe. >> okay. bob is sounding like he has a preexisting condition over here. >> dana, you need a chance to weigh in. >> that's okay. i would say a couple things. remember that the reason that obama care started, the stated

reason was to help bring down health care costs and to help make sure that people didn't go bankrupt if they ended up getting sick. that's how kids think. they'll just try not to get sick. they don't understand that things actually end up happening to you, but you learn that later in life. i think the bigger concern is the unemployment number. and president obama continues to oversee an economy that is very anemic. and in "the new york times" on the front page yesterday was an article that was very chilling about long-term unemployed and 4 million people. when they first lose their job within the first six months, they have a 20% to 30% chance of finding a job. after six months, it goes down to about 10%. you are seeing people now unemployed four to five years. they've eaten up all of their savings. they can't get medicaid because they can't find a place to live. they're exasperated. which means they can't have the

health insurance so their kids can be on insurance till they're 26. it's a lot bigger problem than we're able to deal with in a five-minute block. >> really quick, bob, and then i'm going to get to you. just when you think it can't get any worse, here's brokaw. >> there have been several points, but this is certainly a low point at a critical time coming into the 2014 elections, and a lot of democrats beginning to bail on the idea of obama care. i would think, given the importance of obama care or the affordable care act, eight months ago the president would have started every meeting with "how are we doing? is that going to be ready?" then it suddenly landed the way that it did in utter chaos, and it's not going to be an easy fix is just inexplicable. >> bob. >> mark shields is a good friend of mine and i've admired his work but the idea that liberalism is dead because of obama care. conservatism was dead after 2008, and it came back. liberalism may take a shot this time, but it will be back.

it will be a formidable and will always be a formidable force in american politics. >> it's the cyclical force. the arrogance of one party leads to the rebuilding of the other if the other party actually tries to rebuild itself. nothing unites a couple more than watching another couple fight. that's why when the republicans squabble, there's nothing happier than a liberal. the media delights in internal conflict. that's why republicans have to left them focus on the turmoil of the left by wmt -- wtf, win, then fight. >> even when young families -- think about out there, maybe you're a family of two, three or four and you've got to come up with $3,000 or $4,000 in extra in deductible that you have to put forward first. you're going to walk away from this. you're just going to say what have we done, bob? >> what were they doing two years ago? >> what do you mean? >> were they getting plans canceled? >> this is the problem. it gets back to the notion that somehow we had a good health

care delivery system. it was lousy. >> that you are calling subpar now. >> they were subpar. they were subpar. >> health insurance gave people the reassurance that they were being responsible and that they would be able to take care of their families if something happened. after this past month, that has been eroded and that's been reflected in the president's numbers and will continue to be until there's another forcing mechanism. i don't know what is going to end up happening, but it will not be able to stand as it is. >> we're going to leave it right there, ladies and gentlemen, behold, the "b" block. not bad. matt damon takes on the bush family. big mistake. in a new rant about public school education. but he didn't do his homework. we're going to give him a fact check. plus, an alec baldwin alert when "the five" returns. stay with us. [ male announcer ] 'tis the season of more.

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so a while back jeb bush nailed matt damon for saying all kids should go to public school, except for his own, of course. dana brings it up again. >> the private school that i send my kids to is the same school that i went to that i could find. and that's why i send my kids to private school. i wish i didn't have to. it's expensive. i also want my kids to be part of, you know, of their local dmunt. community. >> that was a criticism. i think it was jeb bush tweeted that, and then he retracted it pretty quickly. although i'd eat my shoe if you could name a bush that ever even walked into a public school. that's another story. >> better start facing those loafers, matt. this is melting. several bushes actually went to public school. but even if every bush went to a private one, it's not like they're saying only they get to go, which is why matt's faulty

logic wilts like his last three films. thank god shoes don't count as a carb, matt. it won't ruin your diet when you eat it. which brings it to alec baldwin, a pudgy reactor always on meltdown. fresh from an anti-gay rant, he lost it again this weekend. >> you're the one that almost hit my wife with the microphone in the face? >> no. i honestly did not. >> you want to apologize to her on camera? i asked you a question? i asked you a question. okay. get the [ bleep ] out of here. >> i didn't do anything wrong. i did nothing wrong, alec. >> he's as mentally disheveled as his hair. especially crew for reasons as cowardly as they were vile. i'll defend him. for anything worse than his

tantrums are the mobs they attract. he shows the difference between words and fighting words. fighting words are just that with little meaning within them. the problem with baldwin without a script, those are the only words he knows. he's just a bucket of swirling resentment. hence instead of delivering a joke, he becomes one like desperately seeking a hairdresser to play his gay friend. >> my hairdresser. let me ask you a question. do you think i'm a homophobe? >> oh, boy. >> thank you. >> that is such a lie. you can tell he has no hairdresser. look at his hair. now, both damon and baldwin share the same disease. the idiocy they spout isn't directed at you or me but actually themselves. they ramg against the sins of hypocrisy that they commit each day for it eats them up inside. all you can do is laugh, and you know that they hold you in high regard than they do themselves.

so dana, basically, matt damon to me reflects the perfect cloistered celebrity liberal in that you must bear the brunt of his beliefs, but he doesn't. >> it's all relativism, too. when he says, well, the private school i send my kids to, even though it's really expensive, he's a multigazillionaire. i'm for public schools having champions. i think that's a really good idea. i also think that -- i don't care if he sends his kids to private school or not. but to try to rationalize it and to make everybody else feel bad i think is ridiculous. what i don't understand for all of these guys, especially for alec baldwin is why don't they just move? alec baldwin obviously hates living here. he gets in trouble every week because all the paparazzi are outside. they have the means to be able to live a little outside the city, and he could have a car and driver. >> i don't know. k.g., do you think that matt should own up and eat this shoe? >> yes, and he can eat it. it has no heel so i'm not interested. >> yes, this is not yours. >> no, it is not. thank you. it wasn't one of his finer

moments, let's put it that way. generally speaking, he's a nice guy, but he's going way out on a limb, and he has no facts to support it, and he was grossly wrong. jenna and barbara bush both went to public school, right. >> but the thing is, where they live, there were good public schools for them to go to. and in a lot of places, that doesn't exist. and that's what i think jeb bush and matt damon are actually trying to work for. better schools. >> which is true. we'd all like that, to have better schools without crowded classrooms. >> not me. i want all schools to be bad. i want bad kids. baldwin is an angry scattered soul. msnbc speuspended him for a coue weeks. >> i don't know why they picked him in the first place. you knew this was a ticking time bomb that's ready to go off. i think they get what they deserve. >> eric. parading a hairdresser. >> his hairdresser. >> yeah. imagine if you did something like that.

oh, here's my gay friend, the hairdresser. you would be laughed off the planet. >> quick thought, alec baldwin first. he's a glutton for the attention. he'll take any attention. i guess it's an addiction, right? even if it's bad, he'll take it. so he continues to do that. and he gets a lot of attention for it. we know he's a hot head. on matt damon, to say -- public schools are really important and they're great, but i'm going to send my kids to private school because it most mimics the public school i went to is asinine. we're not that stupid, matt damon. cut the crap. bottom line is you want to go there, just go there and send your kid to public school. i do. >> or just be honest. i sent her to private school because public school isn't good enough which is why i'm working on behalf of public schools. it's not that hard. >> he didn't even go to public school. they went to private schools, the same one that dzhokhar tsarnaev went to. >> i mean, i remember when president carter sent his daughter to public school in

washington, d.c., a very good one. i think it depends. if there were not good ones, i suspect he'd send them to private school. >> we've got to go. eric has an update on the most infamous crackhead. stick around ordain that will suffer a hamster.

rob ford is still the mayor of toronto, but most of his powers were just stripped away. i'm shepard smith on the fox news desk with the breaking news out of toronto where the new news for the mayor came after things got nasty. >> what is happening? yeah. so we've got some angry -- >> so this is during the council meeting earlier today, and the mayor ran over and pushed that councilwoman down as she was working to address the speaker. at any rate, in just the last few minutes, the toronto city

council voted to cut his budget by 60%, to keep him from introducing any legislation and to transfer power to the deputy mayor. he is mayor in title only. now back to eric bolling and "the five." >> mayor in name only. as dana appointments out, a mino. >> i guess he can still hand out the card, but who's making the decisions? this is very bizarre. plus, you saw the footage over the weekend, out with the crowds at the games. they're, like, our mayor is better than your mayor. bizarre story. it's a reality show next like flava flav. >> the mayor talking to john roberts. watch this. >> i've admitted to using illegal drugs in the last year. okay. i've admitted to drinking too much. okay. so i'm dealing with it. i am training every day. i'm in a gym for two hours every day. i'm seeking professional help.

i'm not an alcoholic. i am not a drug addict. have i had my outbursts? the past? absolutely, i had, john. but you know what? i'm only human. i've made mistakes. i've apologized. that's all i can do. >> all right, robert. illegal drugs, check. drinking too much, check. >> outbursts. >> after seeing that clip of him going over and attacking that woman, i've seen and known a lot of alcoholics in my life. he can say what he wants to say. that is an alcoholic and an addict. >> dana, very popular, also the numbers since he took office, unemployment numbers are going down, and the property values are going up. >> i was just curious. so if he's doing all these things to get better and spending time in the gym, when does he have time to be mayor? when your city becomes an international laughing stock, even if it's a fun distraction for us for a while, it's probably time for him to go. >> can i throw something at you? would you rather have rob ford as the mayor of new york city or bill de blasio as mayor?

>> no question, rob ford. i have to say, he is giving crack a bad name. but you know what? i would rather take a free market drug addict than an amateur grad student trying to turn the usa into, you know, a faculty lounge at brown. >> nice way to work that in. >> that was for bob. that was for bob. >> we've got to leave it there. still ahead in "the five," i'm sorry, let's try that again. in the five decades since the jfk assassination, there have been all kinds of theories about whether lee harvey oswald and whether he acted alone. what does the kennedy family think? a surprising answer when jfk's niece when we come back.

it appears as though something has happened in the motorcade route. something has happened in the motorcade route. spread eagle over whoever is in the car. the president, mrs. kennedy and governor and mrs. connelley. at this point it looks as though all of the people in the car are victims. >> there is only one word to

describe the picture here, and that's grief, and much of it. it's official. as of just a few moments ago, the president of the united states is dead. >> that was november 22nd, 1963, a day i'll never forget along with many of americans who were alive that day. it's been almost 50 years since jfk was assassinated. but the conspiracy theories haven't been laid to rest. people still wonder whether lee harvey oswald acted alone. the late president's niece is one of them. here's robert kennedy's eldest daughter, kathleen kennedy townshend, on fox news sunday. >> do you believe that lee harvey oswald was the lone assassin? >> i don't know. i don't know. i think it's -- i don't know. >> do you question it? >> what i -- what we learned from that letter from my father is that we're not -- i'm not going to solve that problem. >> i think this conspiracy theory is going to go on. what do you think? you think it was a conspiracy? >> i do. i think there are two.

they did it because jfk wasn't liberal enough. and the other conspiracy -- >> that's a new one. >> you were pushing to do this segment four days before the anniversary because it's a distraction from obama care debacle. >> thank you very much. dana. can we get back on topic? >> yeah, i don't know. i've read all the different conspiracies. i haven't alive then at the time. i'm curious, what do you think happened? >> i, for a long time, thought that there probably was some evidence there were other people involved, but i've now come to the conclusion that it's so investigated from so many different angles, and if it was a conspiracy, it would have gotten out by now. greg. >> people love conspiracies because they're more interesting than facts, and the facts are simple. he was a communist. and a lot of people didn't like the fact that he was a communist. because it went -- and "the new york times," so many media outlets blame america for this. they blame dallas for this. i'm surprised "the new york times" didn't blame the tea party for this, that they built

a time machine and went back and killed the president because they can't accept the fact that it was something -- an ideology that they might have admired behind this. >> yeah. here's the deal. when you look at something from an investigatory standpoint and as a former prosecutor, i would look at all the facts and the evidence. there's a lot of speculation, but i think you have to be very careful not to go on a wild goose chase unless the evidence supports this. could they have done a better job, more thorough investigation at the time, perhaps even if they had the technology? perhaps. but we're left with what we have right now, you know, to work with. >> the weird thing is the guy getting shot after. that's the thing. >> that was. but let's keep in mind that he was somebody who was dying of cancer. he was very -- a close admirer of jfk's -- or rfk -- jfk, excuse me, and he was also allowed in the dallas police station on a regular basis. we've got to keep this in mind. this thing has been investigated. the great theory about the

gunman from the grassy knoll up front was disproven. there have been lots of allegations about this conspiracy. as i said, the warren commission was a very good and solid commission. i think they got the investigation, and i think what we know now is enough to say that lee harvey oswald acted alone, but it will never go away. one more thing? >> interesting gesture. and bob beckel, ladies and gentlemen. >> one more thing is up next. tt

test test clear time now for "one more thing." and eric is kicking us off. >> you've probably seen this over the last couple of days. it's gone viral. is that banned yet?

>> yes, it's banned. popular video. >> little bo and theo, pictures of the kid and the dog sleeping together. this morning the family, including mom, jessica, were on "fox & friends," and this happened. >> jessica, if you want to put one of them down, go ahead. >> okay. >> there you go. no, leave that one. i'm just kidding. can i point something out, jessica? >> bo wants theo back. >> we want theo. >> i was just kidding. i was just teasing. >> that was me recommending keep theo the dog. i got beat up all day on the internet. but you have to understand something. i'm a dog lover. look at this picture. my brother-in-law sent this to me today. that's freedom and me. >> this is perverted. >> we are bffs. i love that dog. >> what is going on? >> the dog and the baby weren't

getting along. ducy said why don't you get rid of one of them. >> if you go to "the five" facebook page, you can see him and the dog. >> this show is going to the dogs. i got a new iphone cover. check it out. i don't know who this guy is. it's cody simpson, but he's really cool. i think he's on a skateboard and he's going to be the next justin bieber. that's my new phone cover. >> it's very still. >> it's amazing how i can hold that right now. you know what we need? a phrase. we haven't done one in a while. i'm so tired of people referring to politicians as folks. the people that say folks are never around folks. just call them people. >> you know who uses that often? >> who? >> bill o'reilly. >> i like folks, but i grew up with folks. so i can use it. all right, k.g., you're next. >> awkward moment on "the five."

i've got something i'm very excited about. christie schiller started this amazing program calls caninesforkids.org. she thought about this idea in response to violence and shootings in schools. take a listen to what she has to say about the program. >> i think that canines provide a softer, gentler alternative to a gun. and i'm sure that there's some teachers out there that are qualified to handle a gun, but i think forcibly acting them to do so just puts those teachers in a bad position. >> that's from a sit-down with jamie colby about this organization. her organization will, in fact, provide the training, pay for the dogs if you apply to have one of these dogs come to your school. it's a unique approach. children love dogs, and they're specially trained so if the child is allergic or fearful, the dog knows to stay away from that child. i'm all for making schools safer and protecting our children, so it's a great idea.

>> i'm against it. >> bob, do you have a dog segment? >> no, i don't. i have a much more upsetting date in history. 35 years ago on this date in jonestown, the people's temple leader, jim jones, convinced about one-third to a half of his people to drink kool-aid which was a poisoned vat. and 09 -- 909 people died including one-third of those being children. i was involved in this in that leo ryan who was a congressman from san francisco who most of those people down there were from his district kept insisting on going down there. i was in the carter administration. we asked him not to go for various reasons that i can't disclose here. but i went to see ryan three times. i said please don't go down because if you do, you're going to find this thing is going to exploded. it exploded. it ended up in his death. and 909 other people died including jones himself who took his own life. >> and that's where we get the

phrase "drink the kool-aid." >> the irony was, it was flavor aid. >> that is an interesting fact. this date in history. i'm going to do something where i call your attention to an issue. there's an article i read last week in "the wall street journal." it's another example of how the government is going a little too far. department of transportation, putting new rules for truck drivers in regards to how much time they have to rest and they have to sleep. truck drivers want to be as safe as everybody else. they work really hard to put good equipment on their trucks. they want to deliver their goods, department of transportation, please listen to the comments and don't get too onerous. thanks for watching. see you tomorrow. "special report" is next. it's november 19th. george zimmerman, arrested again. after this 911 call. >> you put your gun in my freaking face and told me to get

the [ bleep ] out. this is not your house. no, get out of here. >> why zimmerman is now claiming self-defense in this latest alleged attack. a girls high school basketball coach with 38 years on the team accused of a sickening foul, biting a student on the face. the action happening now to distance him from the whole team. parents, do you spy on your children? if not, you might want to start. a new statistic that proves snooping can save your kids. "fox & friends first" starts right now. ♪ >> florida georgia line. what a great group. thanks so much for waking up with us. good morning to you. you're watching "fox & friends first" on this tuesday morning.

>> thank you so much for starting your day with us, as always. and we begin with a fox news alert for you. overnight dozens of people sickened by fumes at a warehouse facility in carson, california.d spill. it made workers complain of burning in their noses and their throat. in all 70 patients were evaluated is he scene. 12 taken to area hospitals. the sulfur rifewer rick acid ca from a acid company. >> zimmerman's girlfriend claimed he pointed a gun with him in an argument. >> points a gun at me in my freaking face. (bleep). >> this is not zimmerman's fir