hello, everyone. i'm andrea along with bob, dana and greg. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." well, president obama just wrapped up an interview that we'll tull yell you about in a moment. first when the president started to realize that the obama care roll krout was going to be a problem, he tried to find success stories like this. >> i recently received a letter from a woman named jessica sanford in washington state. here's what she wrote. i am a single mom.

no child support. self-employed. and i haven't had insurance for 15 years because it's too expensive. i was crying the other day when i signed up. so much stress lifted. that's what the affordable care act is all about. >> but that single mom's excitement quickly turned to disappointment. jessica sanford has now learned the affordable care act isn't going to be affordable for her after all. >> it was a huge disappointment, and especially since i had, you know, my story had been shared by the president. i felt like, you know -- i just felt really embarrassed that, you know, he had quoted my story and then come to find that the washington health plan finder, the website here in our state, had grossly miscalculated or they're having a problem figuring their tax credit. and so at least for right now, i don't -- i'm not going to be getting insurance. >> well, millions of americans

are frustrated with the president and his deceit. and it's showing in the polls. opposition to obama care has just hit a record high. 57% oppose it. and gallup says more than half the country doesn't think the government should be involved in our health care in the first place. so greg, before we get into the poll numbers, most politicians use these stories like sam in iowa. i was on a farm and i met john, a small business owner. they can come back and bite politicians if they're not vetted properly. this one turns out to be a horror story much like the woman they initially put on the website who wasn't even a citizen. now two women are embarrassed. >> yeah. you know you're in trouble when your props are falling apart. i think obama is a genius because he realizes that laughter is really the best medicine. and obama care, in a way, lowers your stress by being hilariously incompetent. so in a way he's making us all feel better by being such a disaster.

but i have to say the big question here is is this problem for him temporary or is it forever? because he's been able to extricate himself from everything and move on. but this to me feels like quicksand. this is his greatest achievement and it's filmsier than his bad pitch. >> this was a bad pitch. >> the greater good is now the worser bad. he's taught everybody that when big government succeeds, big government is evil. >> and dana, if you look forward to 2014, you have to anticipate a lot of these businesses are probably going to start to drop coverage because that employer mandate will be running out right up into the point of the midterm elections. tell us a little bit about how a president gets these stories. should he be angry at the person that handed him the story, maybe the same person that told him the website was good to go? >> well, the interesting for him is that later on, that woman, jennifer sanford, she actually doesn't blame the president. this is amazing. she said she doesn't blame the president, she doesn't blame the

white house. she actually blames the state. this would never happen to any other president. he has some sort of ability to just have all negativity rebound off of him onto somebody else. and so what they do, people find out the political office will gather people sending in information on twitter or facebook, and they'll just scour it and look for good stories to tell. i think storytelling, when it's factual, can be very powerful because it helps you think about, oh, that explains my neighbor or sister or mom. that's why americans and all humans have told stories over the years. it helps you explain something. when it turns out not to be true, obviously that's a problem. i want to mention one thing about what president obama said today in this interview. he talked about what they have learned with respect to setting up marketplaces is setting those things very challenging. i think that's the lesson americans are learning right now

is that government doesn't set up marketplaces well. the marketplace exists and leave it alone and we'll hopefully lose the results we would want. >> it can only take things. >> senator marco rubio had an editorial where he talked about, and that is the subsidies that are going to be flying out the door. especially to these insurance companies. i would have to imagine if you're a shareholder, if you're investing in one of these companies, eric, you've got to be pretty your yfurious. if i'm an insurance ceo, i'm going, you've got to prop me up. you promised me all these new enrollees. what are they? >> what the concern is that obama care pushed the insurance companies to take high-risk insures. they said you have to do it, preexisting conditions, et cetera. along the lines. they weren't sure how much it was going to cost them. the insurance companies pushed back, and a little-known fact in the obama care law said don't

worry, we've got the backside. if you're taking out too much money, we're going to come back and pay you for it. but the cbo never scored it. it was never part of how much obama care was sold to us was going to cost. we don't know. i've been doing homework for two days on it and i can't find it. it could be in the billions of dollars of transfer payments that's going to come from congress to go to the insurance companies. but we've talked about what this is, though. we're talking about this woman, jennifer sanford. stanford, sanford. she's having a problem with the real issue here with obama care. it's not the website. you remember the analogy we used. it's a hooker with a cold sore. the cold sore stripper -- the cold sore's going to go away, but she's still a stripper. but we're finding out obama care is worse than a stripper. she's a hooker. the costs are skyrocketing. >> actually, should it be that she still has herpes? >> helping out the insurance companies are going to cost

billions. i'll say it again, it's the deductibles, the families that can't afford to put the $3,000 to $5,000 up front that they'll have to do. if you have obama care, it's got to go out of your pocket first. maybe you'll get your tax credit done. >> don't most of them have deductibles now? >> not like this. some of these deductibles, bob, are ten times what these families are used to paying. >> his poll numbers have taken a hit. you know poll numbers very well. the president was out today, and he was trying to spin these negative polls. take a listen to president obama, bob. basically his new argument is well, it's all relative because in washington, everyone's doing bad. >> we just have to break through the stubborn cycle of politics and start working together. more struggle and brinksmanship won't help anybody. it doesn't help folks politically. my understanding is no one in this town is doing particularly well at the moment when it comes to the opinions of the american people. but it certainly doesn't help anybody economically. >> is that the right message,

bob? i'm not doing well, but republicans aren't either. who cares? whatever. >> look, right now obama is in a position where he's getting perilously close to -- i mean, i think it would be very difficult to pass any major piece of legislation in remainder of this second term. when you get down around -- you ho hover around the 40% mark, something has to come along that bring that back up. i don't see anything on the more rise, say some war or something that's going to do that. now, having said that, the real issue as far as i'm concerned is what does this do to the democrats in 2014? i don't think you can take the emotions and the feelings about obama care today and transplant them in 12 months and say okay, that's going to be the election. one thing we are seeing, in states where the state decided to take on this project themselves, they're doing very, very well. california, kentucky, minnesota, connecticut are running way ahead of what they projected for people signing up. >> no. >> it's the states where they had to go through -- wait a

minute -- which are almost all republican states. >> no state -- no insurance market, state or federal, is doing above what they projected. >> california. i just read it. california, kentucky. >> in kentucky, more people have lost their plans than have signed up for a plan. >> well, if you can believe -- i suppose with all these things, with the statistics we keep hearing, i know that the governor of kentucky says that the thing has been highly successful. in california they signed up triple what they did the first two weeks. >> but that's not what they projected. they projected 500,000 by november 15th. they got 100,000. they got 20%. >> i'm talking about individual statistics. >> i get what bob's trying to say. it's all relative. that's the argument they're trying to make, right? so they're saying instead of the thousands and hundreds of thousands they predicted, 12 people signed up. maybe in the states it was 15. so the numbers we got last week from kathleen sebelius were slightly better in the states,

but they were way below what the white house said they would be. greg, here is the future of the argument leading into 2014. what bob said, he foreshadowed, president obama did that as well today, he said basically we wouldn't be having all these problems. if republicans wouldn't have been more invested in making this work. listen. >> what was already going to be hard was operating within a very difficult political environment, and we should have anticipated that that would create a rockier rollout than if democrats and republicans were both invested in success. one of the problems we've had is one side of capitol hill is invested in failure, and that makes, i think, the kind of iterative process of fixing glitches as they come up and fine-tuning the law more challenging. >> you heard it. it's the republicans' fault. >> he believes one side is invested in failure while the other sidechieves failure.

last night they had a conference call to talk about the failed obama care website. turned out the website you needed to get on to discuss it also failed. i'm wondering if they're going to get another website up to discuss the failed website that was used to discuss the failed website. in this way, that is the beauty of bureaucracy and competence continues to breed jobs. and it will never end. >> it will be the republicans' fault. >> that conference call was -- the invitation was sent out to his partisan army. >> yeah. >> so when you've got brinksmanship and governing that way, you really think it's a good idea to focus on your democratic army? i also think that he sounds increasingly and constantly resentful and antagonistic and aggressive towards opponents that are pointing out -- we don't even have to point out the failures. >> against republicans, absolutely nothing about health

care, nothing, zero? >> bob, when somebody tells you that you have a problem, you should admire that person. right? >> who did zero? who did zero? >> republicans did zero. >> on what? because they didn't vote for a bill they disagreed with? you think they've done zero? >> no. what i've believed all along, republicans basically think entitlements like medicare and medicaid should go away. >> how is that their fault? even your advice to the gop was to stay away and let democrats own this mess. >> what i'm saying is the republicans -- obama's right to this extent. the republicans have done nothing about dealing with the health care crisis in this country except harp on obama care. they have offered up nothing that makes any sense to me. some on social security but not on medicare. >> there's one solution. the only solution is you're going to have to come to, have to, you have to remove the mandate. you just can't do it. you can't fine people for not having insurance. and don't want.

and it should. >> that's my point. you guys want this all to fall apart. that's what -- you want to see medicare and medicaid go away. >> it's not about coverage. it's just about getting votes. >> they should name a bookcase after obama care. >> that no one can put together? >> that falls apart after three months. >> the return line is longer than the purchase line. ahead, more credibility problems for the administration, and it's not just obama care. yes, new developments in the irs scandal and the administration possibly cooking the books on job numbers during last year's election. remember that? and later, george zimmerman back in court. we'll tell you what happened coming up. and george zimmerman back in court.

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you missed the best break ever. dana just flipped out on bob. then andrea just flipped out on bob. then bob yelled at eric.

and then eric said "shut up." and then andrea said something. it was awesome. anyway, i lost my train of thought. oh, the "new york post" reports that a census bureau fudged data to make the jobs outlook rosier. the worker, julius buckman, was told to make up stuff by higher-ups. one insider says the deception happened during a time when obama really needed help. to win re-election, of course. i'd say this is deja vu, but i don't want to offend the french, but this is getting really old. fast and furious, the irs, doj, benghazi, obama care, the irs again. now the census. it's like the scandals are chocolates on a conveyor belt and president obama is lucy. if you remember that. so what did "the new york times" do? they blame republicans for questioning their lack of trust in obama. amazing. that's like blaming a sane person for not being as crazy as you.

politicians lie. that's how they reproduce. it's about the willingness to report them to the masses. the real culprit is the propaganda machine, the columnists that will say anything to protect their guy. the media are the paid witnesses to come forward not to report a crime but to establish an alibi. he didn't lie. it's a glitch. it's your fault for having subpar policies. so the media swallows the lies and regurgitates them as fact. all to hide a simpler fact, there is no there there. president obama has now become the oakland of presidents, that are seen from a speeding train on pluto. eric, i want to go to this because you interviewed jack welch a while ago about this very topic in which you guys were way ahead of the curve, and you were discussing this odd thing going on with the census or the unemployment numbers. let's roll this tape. >> look, i don't know what the right number is, but i'll tell you, these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now.

>> the problem is the household survey, which is the unemployment rate -- >> phone calls. >> phone calls. 60,000 phone calls. a little room for error in that one. >> assumptions. little room for assumptions. >> you're being nice. >> it's just ironic -- >> why are you being nice now? >>, i'm not being nice. it's just ironic that these assumptions all came this way the month before the election. you draw your own conclusions. >> now, eric, could that be seen as conspiracy theory, but when you have this stuff coming out now, what happens? >> i'll tell you how that came about. a couple months prior to that i was watching the numbers. i tried to figure out why the unemployment number kept going down right in front of the election last year and no jobs were created. yet 500,000 people were somehow not counted. congress should look into it. i was happy to host for neil cavuto one day. conspiracy theorists.

i was taken apart for this conspiracy theory. turns out we were right. they had been cooking the books. there's a leak that came out late last night, "the post" report it had. they didn't know what to do, so they started fudging numbers and cooking the books. the problem is they did it right in front of the election. this was the month of the election. >> by the way, potential example of similar experiences with benghazi and the irs where they hide stuff and the media happily hides it for them. >> i was just going to say, the intentional deceit they went to and the great lengths that they went to to help him get an "a" on the exam. it was like they had to help him cheat. so they fudged the numbers. i think even "the new york times" in very small print actually splaped they did change the formula. that's interesting. they changed the math. they also had to create a lie as you point out about the video in benghazi. they had the target conservative group. think about that, greg. they were so unsure of themselves, they had to go to this level in so many different ways. and if you can keep your doctor,

you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. the level of lies on every issue from health care to foreign affairs is jaw dropping. but that's what they had to do. that's how not confident they were that president obama could actually win based on his record. >> bob, no surprise, the census bureau just put out a statement denying systematic manipulation. but even you yourself have said that, you know, the white house does engage in certain dubious behaviors to win elections. >> i didn't know it was quite that easy to cook the books, but apparently it may be. i don't -- with all this stuff, with all this purportedly lying and cover-up and all the rest of this, it's just amazing to me that for some reap this is all coming out now and not before. was this something that benghazi, which i still think is a ridiculous argument all the way around, the irs thing i still think is an important issue, but the rest of these things, cooking the books and

putting your best foot forward, i don't know a president in history that has not cooked up their own -- >> the department of labor changing statistics -- >> do i think that's okay? no. would i have done it if i could have? yes. >> for the first time in four years with the employment numbers. >> if i could have, i would have. >> not whether you would have. is it right? >> when you control a government, you're going to put the best foot forward on everything you can and be deceitful about it. if you want me to go back to every incumbent president running for a second term, nixon is the paragon of this. >> if you can cook the books, go ahead and cook away. >> no, i said if you can cook the books, first of all that easily -- >> obama bought a restaurant. >> top chef. he is top chef. >> if he's not all this stuff, let's impeach him and get it over with. >> finally you're speaking my language. >> it's so overwhelming, the bad rap. >> the census bureau says there

was no reason to believe there was systematic allegations. they deny fraud. then thuf the house oversight committee saying we're taking this pretty seriously. we're going to investigate these claims. what do you make of this? >> i was one of the people that said you were one of the conspiracy theorists. it's been believed that the census bureau and the bureaucrats could be that organized. but this whistleblower comes out last night, the "new york post" writes the story, and it is chilling that you have so many people in the government that work are to the taxpayers that are willing to help a partisan election. the interesting thing on this, two states where they were making these phone calls, in their report, though, the unemployment rates in those two states actually went up. so they say there are more whistleblowers to come out, and there's more evidence to have a full case, a finalized case that we need to see the rest of the evidence. >> quick thought, though. look what happens. they play around with the numbers in the bls. they promise you you can keep

your doctor. they knew they were saying it even though you couldn't, and then he gets re-elected. >> and al qaeda is on the run. don't forget that one. >> it is on the run. >> right into our consulate. >> yeah, that's right. his responsibility for making sure that no people stood up there and took care of the security in benghazi. i mean, just go on. just dump on some more. we'll keep dumping and dumping. and then you leave the republicans free of any responsibility for any of this stuff. i get back to this argument, you say about entitlements and the rest of it, i still believe the republican party has krbtsed nothing to help obama get anything done, nothing. >> they didn't want republicans' help. >> you know what? that's considered a compliment. >> obviously it is. around here it is, that's for sure. >> america has now become a giant bumper sticker, it's not my fault. >> they re-elected him. coming up, one of the biggest movie producers, literally, he's quite large, in

hollywood trashes america. he's quite handsome. next to him, toronto's adorable mayor. he trashes city council. and george zimmerman continues to trash his life. when "the five" returns.

♪ you can't always get what you want ♪ welcome back, everybody. let's do another fan favorite lightning round of hot topics and provocative comments. on today's menu, a hollywood heavyweight, a crackhead mayor and a questionable characters. let's go, first up, hollywood big-shot producer and a guy who should be thanking his lucky stars the gene pool dumped his backside in a capitalist country. harvey weinstein says he's

embarrassed of america. >> this is the only country in the world where we don't have health care. countries embarrass us around the world. this is the only country we don't have a gun law. i watched you talk about that. you know, i mean, quite frankly, it's embarrassing. obama's not embarrassing. the country is embarrassing. >> harvey's embarrassing. go ahead, ang. >> we don't have health care? >> i don't know. >> where does he live? there's no health care in the united states? he also said that countries embarrass us around the world. whose fault is that? president obama's fault. i mean, was he paying attention to vladimir putin? seriously. >> you don't like it, you should move. what do you think? >> he reflects the nearly unanimous distaste for america that's found in hollywood. he's driven by guilt. it's like hating your parents. he's gotten so much from america that he detests it. and he is the last person to be talking about embarrassment. i mean, the die -- look at him. >> i know. >> a countries that buys his movies. >> he's produced some of the biggest movies ever in american history. he's saying he's embarrassed by

us. >> just because he's talented as a movie director doesn't mean he that he is a good political spokesman. i also wonder where he has traveled in the world. the developing world and the third world has no health care. that's what no health care looks like, and it's quite different than america. >> on the weinstein brothers? >> yeah, it was obama's fault. >> very good. we'll leave it right there. a regular on american airwaves these days, toronto mayor rob ford took a break from doing crack and alcohol, got a little feisty with matt lauer this morning on the "today" show. >> all they do is stab you in the back and over issues -- same issues that i've admitted to that they do but nobody knows about it. that's dictatorship. and it's all personal. they aren't talking about my record. we've all made mistakes, matt. i'm not perfect. maybe you are. maybe other people are. i've made mistakes. i admitted to my mistakes.

>> is that ben bernanke? >> i know. look, for of night this guy's on drugs, he's not in the constituents' wallet. i'd rather have a buy binging on crack than binging on tax and bureaucracies. >> he said he wants to run for prime minister someday. >> yes. so canada's long national nightmare continues. i heard that on the way up to canada on the trip that people were saying to matt lauer, please, please don't give him any more attention. but he's an attention magnet. we can't stop. >> our twitter and facebook people say why do we keep talking about him? because it's interesting, isn't it? >> he's far less embarrassing than obama is. >> very good. very good. ang? >> you know what? bob literally took the point and pull it had out of my mouth. no, i'm just kidding. i think finally it's not one of our mayors. we covered filner all summer long. we talked about the weiner, spitzer. for once, i'm actually glad we're talking about one that's

not our own. >> very good. recently acquitted george zimmerman's back in a familiar prison jumpsuit. this time domestic abuse, the accusation. here's the 911 call that landed him in hot water. >> where's his weapon at? >> he just put it down. no! get out of my house. do not push me out of my house. please get out of my house. he knows how to do this. he knows how to play this game. >> all right.round the table. bob? >> this just underscores my point about you allow a gun in the hands of a guy like this who's psychotic, obviously, in my mind, it proves to me once again that he shot and killed a poor teenage kid and the guy should have been in jail for murder and not been allowed to go out and terrorize this woman. put guns in the hands of unstable people like this, give them the front of whatever that ridiculous law is in florida about stand your ground. and you're going to find people like this, and they're much more dangerous than trayvon martin ever was. >> my point is, this story has

always, in my mind, reflected the flaws of the media when discussing stories like this. they give you two choices here. either you're for trayvon martin or you're for zimmerman. i was always of the feeling that zimmerman is a skell, looking to be a hero and he should not have a gun. and that trayvon martin was not an innocent person to begin with. but the fact is, he didn't deserve to die. these two people -- something happened between these guys that we will never know. i don't know why we always had to choose a side on this thing. it just wasn't any good all around. >> the media likes to choose sides, though. >> they do and they want us to. and the reality is none of us was there to know exactly what happened. a jury ruled. i don't understand why, when your life hangs in the balance the way that zimmerman's did, why you then go and behave look this. it points obviously to a larger problem. at least casey anthony went away. at least she behaves now and keeps her head low. george zimmerman, now he is

abusing women? >> he was abusing women before. >> we got to go, but i just have to push back a little bit because what he did yesterday doesn't have any bearing on what he's accused of doing a couple years ago. >> same person. >> same person. >> same mindset. same idiot. >> we'll have to leave it there. next on "the five," selfie is oxford dikdsaryctionary's wo the year. bob's upset because twerking didn't make the cut. stick around for the best selfies even our own coming up on "the five."

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nice job, joshua. the craze has become such a worldwide phenomenon that oxford just made it their word of the year. everyone seems to take them these days kim kardashian has it down to a science. and the pope even took a self-portrait. so when was the word first born? oxford traced it back to an online post all the way back in 2002 from a self-proclaimed drunk australian man who uploaded a pick and wrote a quote. sorry about the focus. it was a selfie.an today is a very special day in american history or something like that. i don't know, they kept running the teleprompter. here's the thing. michelle obama had a very cute one with their dog, bo.te see, that's very cute. she got in on it. on president clinton had one. c let's check him out.ne. there he goes. president bush even got one. but this is old-fashioned. look at that camera. one of the policemen handed that to him. >> he got a picture of himself. he's got the picture in front of him right there. >> it's like a triple selfie.lf. somebody's taking a picture of g you taking a picture of somebody else.

there's also this other one i t really like from isspace. an astronaut which was a very cool one. from so we've all been doing it. we know the most famous one. what's the most famous selfie oe the year?he anybody? >> don't say it. mo kardashian. >> no, weiner! that started the whole phenomenon. you were going to say geraldo. >> i would never do that. >> don't say geraldo. >> eric, do you have one? >> i didn't really want to do this because i'm kind of not into the selfie thing, but josh talked me into it. roll it.ne? >> okay. eric -- >> it's coming.roll >> oh, that's cute. t >> wait, an american flag in your selfie, eric? that's a surprise. >> that's a good one.one. what about you, bob? do you have one?y >> i never, ever heard of the word selfie until today. selfi i don't know what it is. i don't know -- >> but see, we took one. o look. >> apparently that's us in the i green room.een ro >> that is us. >> if a selfie -- all i can sayi is selfie this. i have no interest in it at all >> boy, you're cranky.t i >> nyeah. it

>> andrea, do you have one? >> i do.do. i take selfies sometimes -- oh,s does this outfit look good, but i'm very bad at it. that's when i cut my hair.self i took one to show my family and say, guys, do you like it? there's the before and then there's the before.re >> oh, you look like kate li middleton. >> i do? >> in that picture. >> if you have long arms, can you take really good selfies. >> greg, do you ever run into that problem? >> do you remember the me generation? >> sure. yea >> now we are the look at me on? generation. and it's lopathetic. remember, no one is as interested in how you are u perceived as you.d as and i think that we are in a weird spot, and it defines this generation of all these idiots and asses going like this wherever they go. knock it off. nobody cares.spot. you know what?k it if youof can't find somebody ton take your picture, then don't take your picture. >> i took a cute one of us, though. >> that's not a selfie. that's a belfie.

that's a by selfie. >> do you happen to have jasper's selfie loaded? >> no, i don't think so. >> that was the best. >> i wasn't allowed. i wasn't allowed. no. >> i thought greg would like selfies more because then you're not bothered more by people wanting to take your picture. you go no! and walk away. >> the now what the runner-up words? selfie, one. twerk. that's a dumb one. showrooming. >> showrooming. >> bitcoin. >> and bingewatching. >> is that when you eat a lot of watches and then throw them up? a lot of college kids are doing that. >> you can really tell time well. >> ruins plumbing. >> i'm going to read this thing again. i started to earlier. today is a very special day in american history. president abraham lincoln delivered his gettysburg address exactly 150 years ago. but how much do our kids

actually know about honest abe? we're going to tell you. >> that he wasn't honest. >> what political party did abraham lincoln belong to? >> you know -- >> oh, man, i don't know. >> maybe it doesn't matter. >> okay, there's more when "the five" returns. so i tried depend last weekend. it made the difference between hearing about my daughter's gym meet, and being there. yeah! nailed it! i got back to doing what i love. that's my daughter. hi sweetie! gotta dial it back a little bit on the rock climbing. one weekend can make all the difference. unlike the bargain brand, depend gives you the confidence of new fit-flex® protection. it's a smooth and comfortable fit with more lycra strands. it's our best protection. take your weekend on with a free sample at depend.com

a new nation conceived in liberty. >> and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. >> that was a clip from the project commemorating the 150th anniversary of abraham lincoln's famous gettysburg address which we're remembering here today. all five living u.s. presidents participated along with other notable americans. lincoln's speech was one of the greatest in history and one we should all remember. but the truth is, some college kids don't know much about honest abe. >> what political party was abraham lincoln part of? >> i'm not sure. >> just take a guess. >> can i get some options? >> i'm just going to guess democratic. >> democrat? >> republican. >> reporter: just take a guess.

>> i want to say he was a democrat. >> republican. >> reporter: good. you got it right. >> now, greg, this probably underscores your point about the children who go to college, getting themselves brainwashed about what is anti-american and socialism. are you surprised that these kids didn't have any idea? >> no, because the democrats, with the help of academia, have managed to obliterate their leading war in race warfare. they were pro-slavery, pro-kkk, against rights for blacks. they didn't even want equality in public accommodations. they managed to make republicans look racist when, in fact, they invented it. >> can i follow up on that? >> yes. >> this is something that somehow has been lost in translation over the years. the 13th amendment which abolished slavery won 100% republican support. the 14th amendment which granted citizenship to freed slaves, 100% republican support, 0%

democrat support. and the 15th amendment which granted blacks the right to vote, 100% republican support, unanimous, 0% democrat support. i'm just telling you, those are the facts, bob. >> let me ask you, speaking as a racist myself here, that -- now that we've turned this segment into a bash democrat segment, what about the fact that kids don't know much about history? history seems to be the most important thing we have, and yet more americans don't seem to track history at all. >> i think it's president obama's fault. i'm just kidding, bob. i'm just kidding, bob. schools have gotten away from basic history reading, writing, arithmetic. they're teaching kids how to make soup and do composts. it's a larger problem and i agree with you. i remember a friend of mine showed me his young child's elementary textbook about history. if you read it, you would think that democr that lincoln was a democrat, the way it was phrase..

i do think there has been a push by democrats to co-op lincoln's legacy and maybe hide the democratic party and their behavior when he was president. >> do you agree with that, dana? >> i'm going to offer a contrarian view. i think it doesn't matter if he is republican or democrat in their minds. they see abraham lincoln is a great president. >> ooh. >> and that is -- i think that is fine with them. he belongs to the ages. he gave a speech that was just so full of confidence. it takes a very confident person to get up and give a speech that is so short, panned by everybody at the time and, in fact, the editorial -- the paper that editorialized about it actually apologized this past weekend because they panned it back 150 years ago, and they're apologizing for it. i think that abraham lincoln is a great american president, and i don't think it matters if he was republican or democrat. >> people forget that he gave this speech while the war was still going on and before bodies had been buried at gettysburg. it was a tremendous -- >> but he was a republican. >> okay. one more thing is up next. thing

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until january 22nd, 65 days away. so send them good wishes. eric. >> very quickly, a year ago, going into the election, the numbers just didn't add up. watch. >> we're missing 342,000 jobs. >> what do you mean, missing? >> we're missing them, steve. people who are no longer unemployed, but the economy only created 114,000. i've never seen 432,0342,000 jo one month. >> what do you think? >> if this number doesn't fix itself, how we miscounted last month, i think congress should investigate the department of labor. >> media matters put this headline up on one of their stupid websites. pulled it out of thin air. jon stewart called me crazy also. conspiracy theorist. bottom line is, you guys, the numbers didn't add up. >> you should demand an apology. >> jon, i'd love to talk to you sometime, my man, maybe. >> they go after you a lot. greg. >> look at this. it's my new book.

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government or to private institutions and organizations to help foreign countries meet their urgent needs for skilled manpower. >> 240,000 americans have gone to the peace corps. i was one of them. i'm very proud to have done that. >> all right. oh. i'm on again? no, just kidding. emerson college in boston, for just one day on december 4th decided to name its journalism school the ron burgundy school of journalism. you know, it's kind of a big deal, folks. you get that if you saw the movie. although, is there no one else they can name the school after? what's that say about the media? >> anchorman. >> they have to name it after the fictitious anchorman. that's it for "the five." thanks for watching. "special report" is up next. it is november 20th. a fox news alert for you. while you were sleeping, a plane plunges into the ocean off the coast of ft. lauderdale. two people are dead. an intense search under way for

more passengers. point of impact. a terrifying look at the moment two fire trucks collide in the middle of a busy intersection. why firefighters are now being demoted and disciplined. and president george w. bush returns to late-night tv. >> i wasn't that scared. >> was it obama care? >> "fox & friends first" starts right now. ♪ ♪ if we're gonna go out baby ♪ let's go out like that good morning. and before you get out and about this morning, thank you so much for watching "fox & friends first" on this wednesday morning. i'm heather childers. >> and i'm ainsley earhart.

we appreciate you waking up with us this morning. we begin with a fox news alert. at this hour, a search is under way for two people who were on board a medical transport jet that crashed off the coast of florida. the two other people on board are dead. the private jet took off from ft. lauderdale international airport and was on its way back to mexico when it went down. officials say two pilots, a doctor and a nurse were on board. nurse were on board. there is no official word of what caused the crash. a distress wacall was made momes after takeoff. >> the united states supreme court clearing the way for texas for new abortion laws that stopp stopped some places from doing the procedure. the law will remain in effect until january when an appeals court is expected to hear arguments. >> florida congressman tray