walmart had them. >> poor advertising on walmart's part. >> indeed. so you're not offended, you're kind of offended. obviously -- hickory farms, you cannot make a mistake. tonight a lot more. hello, everybody, it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." obama care rollout day 51 and another day, another passing day. more failures. today's highlights, i.t. professionals warned that the website is a hacker's dream, your personal info at risk. and at a fund-raiser last night kathleen sebelius gets nailed as healthcare.gov crashes just as the secretary smiles for her photo op. the law is falling apart at the seams and so is the president's approval rating. a new cbs poll says it's at an

all-time low, 37%. maybe dragging you down is americans' realization that the law is a disaster. 31% approval rating on obama care. how many people think the law is working out well? only 7%. what's the white house make of all of this? any panic there or are they so insulated or arrogant as i put it that they can't even fathom the thought of scratching and starting over? >> i think panic might be a little strong but they're deepy concerned, worried. pick your they realize that the poll numbers, the bottom is falling out for the president's approval rating and approval of this law. if you look at this cbs poll, you already laid out some of the top line numbers. when you dig a little deeper, the fact that it's something like only 31% actually approve of the law, that is a drop of 12 points in one month. well, what's happened in the last month? you've had the botched rollout and the president's broken promise about if you like your

plan, you'll get to keep it. so they have been pushing back on all this and they still feel inside the white house that in the long run this is going to work out. but they're not fools. they understand they are in a deep hole right now, eric. >> obama's ratings are extremely low now. the idea that he can somehow pull this out with his normal charismatic, i'll talk my way out of this may be difficult. but on virtually every gallup poll, many presidents all had ratings lower than obama does now. the difference is that this is something that's much bigger than the reasons they had their negatives. so do they think they're in a political position to actually move things along? >> they still feel like they're going to get immigration reform down the road, they still think they'll get the health care fully implemented but there are huge roadblocks now. as you lay that out with the

number, the bottom line is i think they might not say this publicly, but most worrisome for them is when you look at the poll numbers in various national polls about trust in the president as a person and as a president, that's falling as well. and there have been plenty of other crises for this president as there were no republicans and democrats as you just laid out. this president was always going to fall back on, whether it was the government shutdown, or the debt ceiling crises, we've had a couple of those, one thing he had over the republicans is that people maybe didn't like his policies, but they still liked him personally. they still trusted him. that's obviously one reason why he won re-election last year. now they're losing trust in him over health care. that is the most dangerous part for him, i think, right now. >> ed, it's dana. so you just mentioned that they think they can roll out obama care fully. but given the various definitions, what do they mean by fully? what does that look like? and when they miss that november 30th deadline, as they have hinted that they will, do you expect some sort of friday night

news, maybe the friday after thanksgiving, saying they're pushing this along to the spring? >> well, we'll see. i think you're right, there have been plenty of news dumps on friday nights. this administration and other administrations before. you may have had a couple of those. >> i had a good one on a friday after thanksgiving one time. it was a beautiful thing. >> well look, here's the bottom line. i don't want to rely to which on the polls. when you look at the cbs poll where 43% say repeal the thing outright, they know there's not a majority for that right now and that the republicans are going to keep pushing to defund it, repeal it, et cetera. i think more worrisome is that the cbs poll says change this law. the president tried to stall and buy more time by doing this executive fix. it's not really clear that he has executive power to delay these cancellation notices by one year. he's got the state insurance commissioners here at the white house trying to convince them to go along with this plan but you know full well it's not just republicans any more on the hill, there are some moderate

democrats as well in the senate, in the house, demanding changes to this law. to answer your question what's going to happen, i still don't think the law is going to be repealed so it's not going to be fully implemented as you asked, but are there going to be real substantive changes to this law? i think that's becoming more and more likely when you have this democratic pressure on the president. >> ed, hi, it's kimberly. realistically what do you think they're most afraid of, most fearful? they have had a series of bad news events coming one after the next, but tonight what are they thinking about and tomorrow morning what are they bracing themselves for? >> to be honest, senior officials here in the white house have heard him say before his presidency is done, he's a lame duck. pick your story, whether it was the nsa, benghazi, syria, having to back pedal and go to congress and it goes down. the vote looked like it was going down and he said don't vote, let me talk to the american people instead. they laugh off the idea his presidency is over because they insist that we've sort of written the obituary where.

the problem is number one he's further along in his presidency, about to begin his second year of the second term, so time is finally running out, number one. number two, what i mentioned about people not just being upset about the health care law but finally connecting it to the president and losing some trust in him, that makes it that much harder. what they're really fearful of is not just being unable to fully implement the health care law but that he's not going to get anything else in his second term. immigration reform, a grand bargain budget deal. all of that is on the back burner to say the least. >> hey, ed, how's it going. so obama's numbers are plunging faster than a plumber on meth. i've heard a rumor that, and i want you to verify this, that they are going to rebrand obama care as an unmitigated disaster. therefore, it's a huge success. >> so lower expectations -- >> they have lowered expectations to a point that you need a shovel to find them. what i don't understand, two of

the 7% that are saying this law is working well, is this the same people that invented in elestra? >> this is probably not going fully answer your question. >> it wasn't really a question, ed. >> i don't fully understand your question or statement or whatever it was. i'm not sure many viewers understand it. but needless to say, i think in all seriousness that the real problem for him is just simply that expectations could not be any lower right now, because you're joking about lowering expectations. he's hit rock bottom on this law and so there's only one way to go, up. >> talk about that news i mentioned in the beginning. the i.t. professionals saying it was only 60% functional when they decided to flip the switch and the 40% that wasn't functional was the pay part. they have to be shaking their heads in the broefing room thinking how do we defend this

thing them. and kathleen sebelius if it wasn't a perfect timing photo op moment, the thing goes down as she's smiling for the cameras. how do they defend this stuff? >> i think on the payment plan you're absolutely right. it seems bizarre that they would move forward with everything when 30% or 40% of it is not fully built, it's the payment part. so jay carney was asked what if people want to take advantage of the tax credits and enroll by the end of the month and the payment part is not ready. do they not enroll or not ready to primetime? in addition to fixing the website's glitches and everything, if this payment system is not built in the next few weeks or at least by the end of the year, before january 1st coverage begins, that's another huge problem. the broader point i do have to make in fairness to the white house, they insist they're going to get past the website problems and past what you're raising and millions more people will be covered with insurance and a lot of people in this country will

see their premiums come down. >> there are two things wrong, though. >> between now and then it's a lot to get from here to there. >> nobody opens a restaurant without first installing a cash register. this again illustrates why government does not know how the free market works and should stay out of it. when her website broke down, do you know what she said? she said this happens every day. shouldn't that tell you something, that you're an incompetent boob if every time you try to do, something it breaks down? >> it also tells you that we're the beta testing for a $4 tr trillion expansion. >> let me ask you a question here. the most serious question in the poll is the trust factor for obama. now, there are a lot of democrats who would like to have a bill to vote on, not just take the executive action but have a bill to vote on to delay this for a year or extend your current policy. the question i've got is don't they worry about putting a bill like that on the floor and opening it up for all kinds of

changes? >> sure, but i think there are democrats like mary landrieu who has one of the bills you're talking about who's facing a very restless electorate in louisiana, a state not too kind to this president. and there's mark pryor in arkansas, which he'll have even less votes for this president and they're facing the voters. the president is no longer facing the voters. so they're going to want to put something on the senate floor to deal with this because it seemed to be that there are many democrats who think that the president's executive fix is not enough and that's why -- the president doesn't want that bill on the floor because once they start pulling the strings on this suit, they think it's going to come apart. >> i want to touch back on this issue because i think it's important about democrats and whether or not they're going to continue to jump ship. they're taking a lot of collateral damage, direct hits because of their association with the president, because of the failure of this health care law just as the hill is reporting that some of them are seething with anger, that he's never had a worse relationship with the party. what do you think? >> well, i think that the president may regret that there

were a lot of relationships on capitol hill that he didn't build in the months and years when he was far more popular that he might have seeded them then and they would be growing into the kind of thing where he has some friends on the hill who can help bail him out in a time of need like now. now, they also scoff at that here at the white house because they say that they have had a determined republican opposition at every turn, no matter what kind of democratic friends they have up there. the republicans will try to tear this law apart and they still believe when they get past these website problems, et cetera, that come a year from now, voters might look at this on balance and say that the president was standing up to giving millions more insurance while the republicans didn't have an alternate plan and that is a fair question to raise if the republicans want to tear this down, what are they going to do instead. there is an issue to deal with and they haven't really put together some broad-based alternative. >> very quick question, ed. what are you hearing about your christmas plans? are you heading to hawaii for two weeks with the president? >> there are rumors of a hawaii

trip, but i think i've been there many times and i'm tired of breaking out the bermuda shorts, but i'd be more than happy to give them to eric. >> ed, when you're there, look for greg brady's tiki doll. >> oh, my god. that's where he lost it. >> that could be the missing piece to this whole puzzle. >> so i've heard. >> ed, thank you for hanging out with us for 12 minutes or so this evening. ahead, it's a vicious game and gangs of teens across the country are playing it. it's called knockout and they're hurting innocent, unsuspecting victims. we'll tell you a story you probably won't hear anywhere else but fox. and it's been almost 50 years since jfk was assassinated. would he be welcome in today's democrat party? coming up on "the five." ♪

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there's a little known provision tucked away in obama care that would allow insurance companies to receive a government bailout if they experience unexpected charges under the law. do americans really want to give another blank check to the administration? senator marco rubio doesn't and he explains why this bailout might be worse than others. >> this would be every year. so this is not -- unlike the other bailout -- >> three years. >> it's going to be rolling. this thing is not going to go away. the bailouts happen one time, they weren't good but this is over a period of years. look, this law cannot bow saved. it will be have to be repealed. the question is how long will it take for democrats to realize that and cooperate in that endeavor. so far the upper echelons are being very stubborn about it but my prediction is check back in eight weeks. >> that's a pretty strong prediction from senator marco

rubio. eight weeks and we might see a difference in some of the support that the president has been enjoying from some of his staunchest supporters, eric. you mentioned how about scrapping it. you can't fix it. you can't replace good code on top of bad code and expect a different result, hence the sebelius crashes, one after the nets. >> and what marco rubio was talking about, we talked about risk corridors where the obama care forces insurers to insurer people who are high-risk individuals at the same rate that they would people who are low risk. for that risk that they incur, they're going to bail them out on the back side but we don't know how much it's going to be. the cbo has to score it. when they scored obama care at$893 billion that wasn't included. this could be billions, tens of billions, more, we don't know. that's a price tag we don't know

what's going to end up being. when we find that out, who knows, maybe more democrats will jump ship. >> you know what's amazing to me, the people that wrote this bill, democrats specifically, nobody saw any of this? >> you had to pass it in order to find out what was in it. >> the people that drafted it in the committees, why they didn't stop and say, you know, this is a potential long-term problem politically and talk to obama about it, i wonder how much of this you can blame on them. >> have you read this bill? >> no. >> i probably read 300 or 400 pages of this. it's like 2700. it's legalese, every single page of that thing. there is probably 20 more of these risk corridors in there that we don't know about. it's that confusing. >> well, you know what it is, it's like an acid you know people used to take acid and never knew how it was going to turn out? this is exactly what this was and this is a really bad trip. >> costly one too. >> rubio is right, you can't uncollapse a souffle.

it's done, you'veot to throw the whole thing out and start over. there's a very simple tip. hire people that actually know the industry. don't re a community organizer to do a president's job. likewise don't use people who don't practice on patients who sit and write on paper. you need people in the real world to make these decisions. the other thing is what's forgotten here is the economy. it's still there and it's still bad. president obama promised a robust economy and he forgot the row part. >> and the bust. >> i think the chance of changing this bill is nonexistent. is there enough you could put into it to make it palatable for the elections? >> and is there enough in it that's so damaging that we can survive through another administration to fix this? >> the damaging thing -- we'll find out. if you're right about this, then i think it's going to be

terribly costly for the democrats. if you're wrong, then it won't be. >> i have a question. where's occupy wall street? this is a corporate bailout. corporate bailout of big insurance companies that apparently the democrats hate, so where's the protest? >> well, we know they're not showering, that's for sure but one man who knows a lot about this is bill o'reilly. so we're talking about a weakened president. touched a little on what greg was just saying and references the economy. take a listen. >> when a president shows weakness, his administration comes under siege. all kinds of things emerge. there's more chaos and the horizon and every american will feel it. we are a country that depends on a robust economy. we don't have one. president obama vowed to make national health insurance mandates work. so far, the new law is a disaster. again, when a president becomes weakened, people take advantage. both within the country and abroad. >> i can't believe you're stealing o'reilly material.

>> o'reilly reading your mind? >> we have this special mind meld. but i don't think president obama minds that he's perceived as weak over this. he was always about shrinking the american ideal into some kind of european state but he's bored with this. remember, the presidency was in a sense given to him, he didn't earn it. it's like he's tired of this sports car and already stripped its gears and he wants to move on to something else, maybe a bmw. >> lucky for us the lease will be up soon and we can get something that might work. bob? >> did you want to say something? >> if you were looking practically, senator rubio says check back in eight weeks. well, what happens in about eight weeks is the budget negotiations, the government has to be funded again. remember, we go through this in september with the shutdown. they kicked it to january 15th. i would imagine that there's going to be some significant changes to obama care and it will be in that bill because it will be the only one that senator harry reid will have to

move. >> can we just point out the -- >> irony? >> the irony of that, that ted cruz tried to do that how many weeks ago. >> it's four weeks for the budget issue. january is the debt ceiling, i think. but in any event, you're right. the one thing i will say. a lot of presidents have had lower ratings than obama. they had one single or two single things going like the iraq war which a lot of people didn't much care about unless you had somebody over there. health care universally affects people and that's the problem here. >> and there's been a number of missteps and failures in his administration which put him in a weakened position which allowed this slide to happen very easily. >> and just wait until january when people find out that the doctors that they have liked, that they have come to know and gone to for years aren't included in the plans that they selected because that doesn't happen until january. >> those doctors you worked a special relationship with where you have their personal cell phone numbers, you can text them

at all hours of the day and night? >> well, there's policies out there that cover 80% or 90% of the doctors that are practicing. directly ahead, there's a deadly new pass time for african-american teens nationwide and you're probably not going to hear about it from the mainstream media. it's called the knockout game. it's not a game, it's a crime. details next on "the five." [ woman ] when you own your own business,

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so there's a disturbing trend where young thugs sneak up on pedestrians and hit them as hard as they can. it's like a lottery, except the winner gets a coma. though not organized, it's likely a gang initiation thing, which may be why it's unreported. it makes the mainstream media uncomfortable. unlike the zimmerman case where

the victim and the villain fit the media's assumptions. for the rest of us the knockout game reflects the careless brutality of modern crime. even as america becomes safer, the remaining criminals are colder in their carnage. the delight and decay is mirrored in pop culture. the essence of cool, after all, is detachment. the ability to exact horror without feeling a thing. you're entitled to feel resentment which drives victim status as you victimize others. so while i wouldn't say the knockout game is spreading like a violent take on the macarena, it's a by-product of modern ideological warfare that stokes the flames of resentment. violence becomes another entitlement. why shouldn't our moral decline have consequences? we mock proven values and laugh at traditions as we denigrate people with dull jobs. we abandon commitment in favor of desertion and turn cities in amoral vacuums. children return to empty homes where from a glowing screen kim

kardashian shows them what they don't have. it's hell in a hand basket with a high-speed connection. >> oh, my gosh, you seem so innocent and vulnerable when you're sick. >> i know, i was having a hard time. what are we talking about? >> knockout game. >> hey, bob. what do you think of this? do you believe it's a trend? >> i think it's a trend. i think it's outrageous. i think these kids ought to be prosecuted to the extent of the law. i don't believe it's ideological at all. here's the thing that drives me crazy. if there was ever an opportunity for al sharpton and jesse jackson and others to speak out, it's on this. i mean come on! this is the worst, most cowardly, disgraceful, disgusting form of barbarrism i've ever seen. lock them up and make no exceptions. lock them up. >> can i throw something out here too. it really -- i'm not going the ideological route. i'm not sure we know exactly who's doing it. it could be whites, it could be blacks, it could be gangs.

>> it's gangs. >> okay. but there is one little tweak to what's going on now. what they're doing now is they're targeting. they're targeting jews now. they knock out jew -- knock a jew out game. knock a woman out game. they should be prosecuted with hate crime status. >> exactly. >> absolutely. >> but where's the courage? where's the courage of the mainstream media to cover this, to call it what it is, to tell it like it is, to be responsible because there's innocent victims being targeted. prosecutors should be doing press conferences on this, so should the police department. heightening awareness, and they're not doing it. it is sad and it is unforgivable. >> what about prosecutors. it seems to me they're on the stick there. why don't they go out and the prosecute. >> they can't go out on the street to arrest them, but there should be an investigation. there's so much on social media that is a rich resource for cops and d.a.s to find out and use the public to identify these public. call on people to have courage and punish these people that are in your community hurting people, preying on innocents. this is terrible.

one big case with a tremendous amount of penalty and punishment, jail time and they'll stop this. >> dana, you tried to instigate a knockout punch but you kept hitting people in the hip. if the races were reversed, would this be a bigger story? >> do you think that the bbc reporter would have asked oprah about it? >> yes. yeah. >> let me just ask a question, raise a question here. in the mass murders that we've seen in the mass shootings at the schools, one of the things we've talked about is should the media even give them any attention because that's what they crave. is the media right maybe to not blow this out of proportion because it would give it more attention and then you'd see more of this type of crime? i actually am for the media covering that, but just throwing that out there. >> the more you see it, what you're creating is awareness. >> i kooechcan't even watch this so upsetting. >> but some people may be seeing this for the very first time,

not knowing it's going on. >> you can be aware. >> that's my point. >> but also be aware if you see it or know someone who's done it, report it. >> you're worried about hate crimes. don't hate crimes carry much heavier penalties. >> they do, bob. >> crime is crime. >> i just want something that gets them the longest sentence possible. that's my point. coming up, george w. bush resurfaces on "the tonight show" and apparently he doesn't mind retirement at all. >> president obama is kind of getting all the late-night jokes now. >> better him than me. >> funny. dana has the rest of the highlights next. hey, buddy? oh, hey, flo. you want to see something cool? snapshot, from progressive. my insurance company told me not to talk to people like you. you always do what they tell you? no...

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the only thing that has woken greg up today is the country music. >> why do i have to sing like this? >> because it's popular. >> since president bush 43 left office he's chosen not to talk policy or politics, but jay leno tried his best last night to get him to bite when he brought up the president's recent health scare. >> when the president had that heart scare, how scary was that? >> it was scary. it was very scary. >> i wasn't that scared. >> was it you had obama care? >> so he didn't talk about obama care but he talked about how he dealt with some of the pressures of the office and how much he thinks about his legacy. >> first and foremost, i relied upon my faith. my family helped a lot and had a good team around me. did the best i could do. i'm also very comfortable with the fact that it's going to take a while for history to judge whether the decisions i made are

consequential or not. they're still writing biographies of the first guy. the 43rd guy doesn't need to worry about it. >> kimberly, genuine, sincere and even when he could have taken some shots at the sitting president he chose not to. what do you think of that? >> class act. i think he's number one -- maybe tied with his father for just really setting the tone and the standard of what a former president should do and how to behave and always being gracious. i think his behavior, you know, since he was president has been exemplary. he's been really kind, i think, to the president. >> democrats actually -- they do talk about this as the one thing they can say, at least they can all agree that president bush has been a gracious ex-president. >> one of the things about presidents is it always seems ex-presidents do much better in many ways than they do when they're in office when they're freed up from the pressures like that. i know a lot of you don't like jimmy carter, but jimmy carter as an ex-president did a lot of

good things with homeless and diseases eradication. george bush has kept up his work on aids in africa. and i think his tenor and demeanor was excellent. and frankly, he did avoid taking a shot at obama. if there was ever a time he could get away with it -- >> and he didn't take it. you love dogs, eric bolling, president bush loves dogs and president putin doesn't love dogs. listen to this story. >> favorite barney story? >> well, there's a lot. i introduced barney to putin. >> okay. >> and he kind of dissed him. >> really? >> yeah, it was like you call that a dog? >> you call that a dog? >> he didn't say it but his body language was he's not really a dog. and i love the guy. a year later putt putin introdue to his dog. he said bigger, stronger and

faster than barney. >> wow. you should have nuked him. >> how important is it, greg, for conservatives to start thinking about going on some of these shows where they can show their personality? how much do you think that helps in the future? >> i guess it does. let's face it, it's been six years so there's been a lot of space for people to miss the president. i will say this, the best thing that jimmy carter did after being president was not be president. that's why he was such a great ex-president. but i want to make a point, my mom always said don't be first or last on anything. and that's why he's right about don't worry, he was not the first president an he's not the last president and he didn't take a sixth of the economy and destroy it. >> that's true. >> go ahead. >> can i throw something in real quick. i'm listening to this interview this morning on fox various tv networks and thinking what's president obama going to do after he's president. i don't want to make this about

obama. >> he'll be very young. >> will he run for office? will he be governor. >> president of the world. >> u.n. president? >> it strikes me as he's the kind of guy who loves being leader of something. >> secretary general of the u.n., you watch. >> maybe president clinton -- perhaps president clinton has provided a model where you do a little bit of business and a lot of good around the world or something. >> king of epcot center. >> can i just make one thing in defense of my old president is that jimmy carter did help build a lot of homes for a lot of people and eradicated two diseases in africa that saved tons of thousands of lives. >> but people needed homes because of the economy he destroyed during his presidency. >> let's end this -- we're going to end this on a positive note, okay. so president bush decided to take up painting after he left. last night he gave jay leno this painting. a portrait of jay leno. it's interesting, jay leno was wearing the same outfit. i don't know if president bush did that in the green room or what. >> it's like a photograph.

>> he's a really good parent. remember he painted jasper? >> yes. jasper, jasper, jasper, just for you, bob. >> you say that three times, satan appears. >> i could watch that interview every day. today president obama and members of the kennedy family visited the gravesite of jfk nearly 50 years after his assassination. we'll show you that and discuss it as well. we'll also talk about whether jfk wolf at home in today's democratic party. that's when we return.

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there was another time when another young candidate was running for president and challenging america to cross a new frontier. my friends, i ask you to join in this historic journey to have the courage to choose change. it's time again for a new generation of leadership. it is time now for barack obama. >> that was the late and great teddy kennedy recalling the promises of his brother's leadership and bestowing the same trust in then junior senator from illinois, barack obama. earlier that former senator turned president visited the

gravesite of jfk. he laid a wreath at arlington in memory of jfk two days before the 50th anniversary of his assassination. some people have asked whether ronald reagan would fit in today's republican party and the same question can be asked about president kennedy. would he fit in today's democratic party. dana, one of the reasons that's been raised is because kennedy cut taxes from 90% down to 65% marginal tax rates were brought down, which is something the democrats -- well, not necessarily known for doing today. it was a different time, a different economy, a different very optimistic country. >> right. so facts and circumstances basically determine a lot of this. yesterday we asked the question about in the gettysburg address when it comes to abraham lincoln, they asked a bunch of kids did they know whether he was republican or democrat. they didn't have any idea. i don't think anybody has any misunderstanding that jfk was a democrat because the democrats have basically put him up as their martyr and their hero for many years.

he was only president for 1,000 days. not a lot of time to make a big impact. as president bush just said, if you're the 43rd president or if you're the 38th president, you don't know what your legacy is going to be like. obviously we're spending a lot of time talking about it this week because of the 50th anniversary. but in 50 years from now, i don't know what people will say about the legacy. >> you know, kimberly, jfk was not known as aggressive on civil rights. in fact he was very careful about it because he was trying to get votes in the south for re-election had he lived that long. lyndon johnson was the one that put through the major civil rights legislation. do you think part of that is the reason that some people question whether kennedy would be acceptable in today's democratic party? >> one of the reasons why i think he perhaps wouldn't be acceptable in today's democratic party is because he transended politics. i mean he was, yes, a consummate politician, but he was a man of class, a man of character. i think he's one of the greatest presidents that we ever had. and i think the current -- both parties in some respects could

learn a lot from how he conducted and handled himself. i feel the same way with reagan, but reagan was one of the greatest presidents for those same reasons. >> greg, the mainstream media that you keep saying maedia youy gives obama breaks gave kennedy breaks. do you think he could have survived real scrutiny? >> clinton did, obviously, and the other thing for kennedy, he was pro-life. that's almost unheard of on the left side. that's a first, i think, for a tv show to bring this question up. the media never questions the leftward tilt because you can never be too liberal. a "new york times" editorial board or salon or slate. to them, obama's failure is that he wasn't liberal enough, or else, obama care would have worked. if bill rairs ran for president,

75% of people would vote for him. >> kennedy was in the middle of the cold war, came off the fiasco with the bay of pigs. there were a lot of things about his foreign policy people questions. what do you think? >> you left out one of the most important reason s he probably wouldn't be as welcome in the democratic party. he favored lower taxes. >> i said that. >> listening to that guy who, you know, has long since passed, i couldn't stand him either, kennedy's brother. the point is, lower taxes. i didn't know he was pro life. >> catholic. >> all catholics aren't pro life. anyway, long story short, i would say he would not be welcomed with open arms by the bill mahers and michael moores. >> can i point something ut? yesterday, you touched on it, gettysburg, yesterday, 150th

anniversary of it. president obama doesn't go to the anniversary of it and says he blames the website thing. come on. >> i think that was a real mistake. that was an opportunity lost. >> you're going toask me a question. >> would jfk be president if it weren't for tev? >> no, he would not have. life could be hectic. as a working mom of two young boys angie's list saves me a lot of time. after reading all the reviews i know i'm making the right choice. online or on the phone, we help you hire right the first time. with honest reviews on over 720 local services. keeping up with these two is more than a full time job, and i don't have time for unreliable companies. angie's list definitely saves me time and money. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most.

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all right, time for one more thing. robert g. beckel kicks us off. >> trey radel from florida was arrested for cocaine charges and is now undergoing treatment in outpatient treatment and will go to in-patient treatment. he's a freshman, but the flor of the democratic party decided to call him an embearishment to florida and he should resign. let me say something to your democrats who want to take advantage of this, this guy has a disease. he said he hit bottom. he recognized the problem. he's going to try to get himself well. what he doesn't need is people from the outside who know nothing about the disease giving

him a hard time. >> it's like a real life house of cards. >> well stated, bob. as always. >> so have a nice thing here from esquire magazine. my ex-husband, this is ronan's dad, you hear me talk a lot about him. my second husband, two out of two. >> that's eric vulensy. you can check his designs out. he's in this month's esquire. it might be nice to put that on. >> yeah. where did the other three go? >> esquire is still being published? that's great. >> just ripping on you. >> one of our favorite websites, realclearpolitics have a feature called morning commute where they pick someone randomly and drive them around and talk with them during a commute. i got a chance to tell them one of my secrets from the white house. >> what i loved about president

bush was his management ability to utilize people. he understood me better than i knew myself at the time. he said, hey, by the way, i don't think you would ever do this to me. i went -- and he nailed it. because that's what i was worried about, my relationship with him being affected by a book written by an insider. >> could you imagine driving and having someone talk, give you a story. >> and they're going to have more clips and a hilarious one that involves jasper. >> looking out the back? >> there's more. more to come from real clear politics morning commute. >> taco thursday. >> taco thursday is another secret. >> taco thursday. you're up. >> all right, day two. of the preorder of not cool. you know what bothers me? i went to amazon and saw that kill me, o'reilly, and hammers are all out. my book isn't out, but let's get

in there without having a book out there. preorder it now, amazon. >> if you don't do it, we're going to kill you because we're going to advertise this every day for the next four months. >> we should until he's number one and o'reilly is number two. >> all for that. >> yes. >> very quickly, a couple charts i want -- we made, tommy and i went through graphics and put these together. pull up the first chart, how many people have enrolled in obama care. those people in the middle show 108,000. now let's show how many people have been thrown off their health insurance. that's to scale. can you toggle back to the other one quickly? toggle back. >> go back to the front one. >> there it is. >> all white people. >> are you that one up there? >> what have you done? >> terrible. >> all right. >> racist. >> do me a favor, before we go,

go to your dvr, put "the five" in, type it in. don't miss an episode of "the five." we're with you every singing night. "special report" on deck. >> i'm brett beahr and this is special report. we begin with breaking news. a fox news exclusive. new evidence of just how seriously the obama administration was taking the possibility of failure and embarrassment ahead of the disastrous health care rollout. ed henry has been chasing this down all afternoon and has obtained new documents. >> good evening. confidential documents obtained by fox suggest people inside the administration just one week before the website launched had fears it may fail. more fears than they may have let on publicly. top aides to president obama were nervous healthcare.gov would be, quote, unavailable and