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but you still are fighting. >> it's a perfect song for washington, d.c that's in the after the show show. >> you sound great. chris, thanks so much for coming by. thanks everyone for watching. bill: another day, another delay. breaking news on obamacare. the white house changing the rules again. the president pushing back the enrollment period for next year until after the mid-term elections. why in the world would they want to do that? democrats detonate the so-called nuclear option. changing the rules to strip that republicans of power to oppose the president's agenda. welcome to america's newsroom. martha: good morning.
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i'm martha maccallum. it's also an important day as we remember 50 years since the assassination of john f. kennedy. there is a live look at the eternal flame at the arlington national cemetery. a significant day in the life of our nation and we'll remember it. bill: top republican leaders are furious. they say this is an effort to distract americans from the obamacare debacle. >> millions of americans are hurting because of a law washington democrats forced upon them. what do they do about it? cook up some fake fight off judges. he may as well a red if you like the rules in the senate you can keep them. >> this is the most important and restructuring of senate rules since thomas jefferson wrote them. >> it sounds like harry reid is
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trying to change the subject. if i had been taking all the incoming fire over obamacare i would try to change the subject, too. bill: you go so far as to say this is a turning points in american government. explain. >> this is much more than an effort to change the subject. for our entire you history the senate has been the place that protected the rights of political minorities. it required a super majority vote to pass controversial legislation. what happened was democrats used a very obscure rule to blow that. they completely blew it up. it affects only for the moment nominations, executive nominations by the president and nominations for the courts. but everybody who is involved with it says it is at one point some day going to apply to
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legislation, too. the senate will come like the house a place where you can run anything through with just a simple majority vote. bill: we have another delay that we'll get to in a moment. you write the report out, this was supported by democratic senators who never served in the minority. why is that significant? >> because they haven't been rolled over by the majority. they haven't seen the world from the position of the minority. 31 of the democrats in the senate never served in the minority. mitch mcconnell said your time is coming. the senate power is change. it has changed a loot of times. things foe around and come around in the senate. if there is no protection for the minority to stop legislation that's important to them,
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everything changes. bill: the ramifications are at the judicious level now. the appellate level in washington, d.c. arguably is the second most important court in the country? >> right. there are flee nominations, three positions that are open. republicans have been blocking president obama's nominee for them. that court considers a lot of things that the president does when they are challenges legally. the president has issued some controversial new rule for the environmental protection agency on limiting emissions. it's going to end up in that court. the president wanted his judges on that court to rule favorably for him. republicans had been block him. now those judges will go through. it will make a huge difference in the environment and policy areas.
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martha: president obama clearly change his tune on the controversial nuclear option tactic. while he applaud it yesterday hear what he said in 2005. >> at the end of the day they expect both parties to work together to get the people's business done. what they don't expect is for one party be it republican or democrat to change the rules in the middle of the game so that they can make all the decisions while the other party is told some sit down and keep quiet. march where vice president joe biden and harry reid all slammed the move when the shy was on the other foot. bill: mitch mcconnell talking it a step further saying not only is this a bad idea. but democrats will live to regret it. what do you think?
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does it change the way washington governs itself? send a tweet @billhemmer. martha: it becomes an arm like the house. if you can pass it on a simple majority it changes the dynamics. he he this is not just about a diversionary tactic from obamacare. it's a deep-seeded change. bill: we have breaking news on obamacare. martha: there are new details on what could be a political move for the white house on obamacare. it's pushing back enrollment period for next year from october 15 to one month later, move 15 which conveniently fall right after the mid-term election. the administration claims it's meant to give in surers more time to prepare for the new plans. remember when the republicans were blasted suggesting a
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one-year delay? funny how that works. stuart varney joins us now. have thin on this one. >> let me paraphrase -- how convenient. think forward. next year millions of cancellation letters where going to go out. some people who had their plan canceled will have to go on the exchanges and enroll on the exchanges. now they can start enrolling november 15, after the election. you vote first, then you get the sticker shock. vote first, then you find out how' your premiums have gone up, your deductibles have gown. vote first, get that out of the way with, then you will find out what you are going to be hit with. martha: the white house decided they were going on defense. they did it in a number of way. we have this decision as one of them. the journalists come together white house to talk to the president. this nuclear option which is a
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whole other distraction and issue thrown into the mix here. it is interesting to me that this is what republicans were asking for. this is problematic and we need the insurers to have more time to get upon board. at that points the white house said no way. very different tune now. >> they reversed them civils several times on several issues. it's still looking at a rolling collapse of obamacare and you are looking at a white house increasingly playing defense. hedging its bets, trying to maneuver around certain deadlines because they can't meet those deadlines. they are have much playing defense but it's a rolling collapse for obamacare. martha: thanks very much. bill: this news breaking today. we'll have a lot more on it, too. we have a packed show. so you will delay this thing until after the election of next year. maybe some people aren't surprised by this breaking news.
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this so called fix to obamacare, more than a million people who lost their insurance in california are now find out whether they get it back. we'll talk to a state understand commissioner who has his own decision to make for 470,000 people. he's on deck now. martha: big change could be dmomght air. a move to let people talk on their cell phones on the plane. can you imagine sitting around that all the way from new york to l.a.? bill: i would need. >> quiet car for that. martha: the moment that changed america when the shots rang out in dallas 50 years ago in dallas. president kennedy's voice silenced forever. the eternal flame in arlington. people around the world will pause to remember that fateful
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moment 50 years ago today. >> it appears something has happened in the motorcade group. something i repeat has happened in the motorcade route. people are running up the hill, along hill street by the freeway. several police officers are rushing up the hill at this time. standby just a moment, please. something has happened in the motorcade group, stand by, please. parkman hospital has been advised to stand by for a severe gunshot wound. i repeat a shooting in the downtown motorcade area.
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no injuries reported. no cars were struck during this landing believe it or not. traffic was a nightmare. cars are wondering why there was a plane on the roadway. cal * california will not allow canceled policies to be renewed. in california alone you have more than 1 million americans who lost their life insurance. 5 million americans are in the same situation leaving them in limbo. a member of the california insurance board said delaying it is not the answer. >> if i thought delaying it would solve the problems i would delay it. but i think it will make a bad situation worse. bill: in north carolina 470,000 canceled policies and in that
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state alone. wayne goodman is the north carolina insurance commissioner. good morning to you. this is quite a pickle. you have almost a half million people in your state alone that are facing a decision here. you, however, have made a decision opposite of california. you will allow them to renew their policy. why did you decide that? >> the decision is i have 473,000 north carolinians that will have a gap in their insurance coverage. that will be devastating to those families if we allow them to go without policies. i told the companies they need to resurrect those policies. bill: why would you allow it to be fixed and california not. in california they say it's too
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complicated to reverse it. what's the difference? >> each state has its own marketplace. but north carolina we have been ahead of the curve. we were working on this solution well before we heard the president or the white house was going to suggest the same thing. so we were already working on this,en we have better i believe laws that allow flexibility so we could act quickly on behalf of our citizens. bill: we heard fear week now how' this complicates matters for the insurance companies. how difficult is that now? >> it is a balancing act. we tell our consumers that we want to help them keep their coverage, it does mean that insurance companies could very well see a drop in the money they are expecting to come in so there is going to be a balancing act that will be struck by state
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understand commissioners, whatever is in the best interests of their consumers so there will be some negatives for insurance companies. bill: will you agree premiums will be forced to go higher because of it? >> that's a concern several our state ibs commissioners shared with the president in his oval office this week. it could raise rates for some of our citizens next year. bill: what did he say to that? what did he respond? >> the upshot of the conversation with us the president and the state insurance commissioners underscored insurance regulations are best handled by the state. state-based regulations is better for all concerned. the marketplace and business and the families and individual who need insurance. it's better that the states handle understand regulation. of course, we are now down a different road and we are trying to deal with this where we are now. bill: clearly he did not agree
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with that so what did he say? >> he did underscore that the states have a vital role, and he was basically wanting to hear from us about what we are doing in our respective states. we expressed our concerns about the proposed fix he made how it will have a negative impact on the ings companies and some families. i share with the president that i have to stand up for north carolinaans and they needed to keep their insurance coverage and i would do that in the best interests of the tarheel state. bill: was he sympathetic to that? >> yes, he was. i was impressed he knew so much about some very substantial statistics and data about the marketplace for north carolina and the other marketplaces of the states that were in that meeting. he did indicate that he learned more about insurance regulation and the insurance markets over
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the last 60 days than he had in the last several years. he had a crash course in lights of everything. bill: we are all getting a crash course it seems like today or by today. yet again there is another delay that was given out several hours ago. do you believe this law survives or not, sir? >> it's still too early to tell. this is as very complex law that i have many times come across folks who are just now understanding the impact the law is having on their lives and businesses and on our respective states. it's still too early to tell, but obviously the fumbled rollout of the president's proposal and the like made things very difficult for all of us. but our state insurance commissioners, we'll do everything we can to make sure our states are better off with what we can do as opposed to what the federal government can
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do. bill: i appreciate you coming on today. we reached out to people with a similar job to your across the country and our viewers need to hear this. we'll keep in touch with you in your office. thank you. martha: we got word that president obama was going to be huddling with a number of journalists, mostly left-leaning journalists getting together at the white house for an of off te record briefing. there is juan williams as is walked out of that briefing as the white house has begun an allout evident to fight back on obamacare. we are seeing it in a number of way. what is the strategy? we'll talk to juan coming up. bill: 50 years ago to the day, november 22. a somber ceremony remembering
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walter croon kite. walter cronkite. the word changed america forever in terms of loss of innocence on the day he was assassinated. john f. kennedy, november 22, 1963. the shots rang out as president kennedy's motorcade moved through dealey plaza. the parents with their children were standing there in anticipation waiting to see the president. then a short time later the death of the president was announced. lyndon johnson sworn in as the new chief on air force 1. jackie kennedy still in the suit
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she was wearing looks on. it was a surreal moment for america. now a look at the eternal flame that continues to burn in arlington national ceremony in virginia. let's go to dealey plaza in dallas where so many will be gathered. the country and the world will stop. we'll remember. we'll honor the remarkable life and legacy of our nation's 35th president. casey siegel is on site there today for us. tell us what we can expect there today. >> reporter: there will be events happening all over the city of dallas to remember president john f. kennedy. the main service will be happening here in dealey plaza. the press riser is on the infamous grassy knoll. and just over my right shoulder
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is elm street where the presidential motorcade was coming down when the shots were fired. the reddish orange book is the texas state book depository. it was where lee harvey oswald was perched and fired the deadly shot. a number of speakers including a pulitzer prize winning historian will be reciting excerpts from some of jfk's most famous speakers. there will be a tolling of the bells. a moment of silence. volunteer projects will be happening. president kennedy helped start the peace corps. a doctor who treated jfk at nearby parkland hospital where he died. a somber day in the city of
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dallas but the focus of this events is to remember the legacy and a man whose life was cut tragically short and changed america forever. martha: those who were alive and remember where they were when they got that news, for so many across this nation, it feel like it just happened. >> it does. you took the word right out of my mouth. for that generation people can remember exactly where they were and what necessity were doing when the newsflash started hitting and they received the word that kennedy had been assassinated. an anniversary like this bring back painful memory for those who lived it. like bill and gail newman who brought their young children here to the grosy knoll to catch a glimpse of the president and the first lady. >> as the president's car approached 100 feet away. the first two shots rang out and
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it was a boom, boom like that. and at the time i thought someone had thrown firecrackers and made a noise. >> reporter: can you imagine? interestingly no presidents will be on hand for today's service and no members of the kennedy family will be here. mostly people from the city of dallas and people who were here 50 years ago today. martha: it's amazing how close to him and close to the family so many people who never met him felt and feel today as they look back on that day. we talk about the tears that were across the nation, a whole nation shedding tear simultaneously on that day. it's a chilling image and reality. thank you very much. we'll be looking at all the coming throughout the afternoon. >> we are asking a lot of our viewers, where were you when president kennedy was shot 50 years ago.
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you can talk to us on bill hemmer and martha maccallum on twitter. there will be quite a ceremony taking place and we'll have nonstop coverage of that when it happen. martha: they were charged with bullying a girl who was at one point their friend to death. now one of the accused teenaged girl joins us here live with her attorney jose baez and we'll hear her side of the story. then the man who brought the charges, sheriff grady judd is also here live in america's newsroom. don't miss this. this is coming up. bill: the controversy on the hill. the dems invoke the nuclear option.
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rain and flood to southern california. and the first major snowstorm of the year hitting denver, colorado. the change of seasons in colorado is on. >> i can remember august when it was hot and hot and hot. this is different. it will be gone in a few days and we need the moisture. >> i would rather have it a little bit colder, i hate the heat. bill: you have been warned. colorado is teaching us a lesson right now. 35 right now. martha: a group of liberal journalists were brought in to attend a face-to-face meeting with the president and. >> of his staffers. our own juan williams was there. he's says the president's team are in full fight mode over obamacare's debacle.
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he joins me now with his take on it. good morning to you. good to have you with us today. yesterday about this time we got word that the president had summoned a number of people to the white house to talk. it feels like they are in a sort of full court press in terms of fighting back on this. what happened in that meeting? what was it like? >> it was interesting to me. mostly liberal journalist. people from the post, mother jones, people from msnbc. i think it was clearly intend to speak to the democratic base that has been moving away from the president on the affordable care act. i think you see that in terms of the polls the in terms of his dropping poll numbers. i think the key take away from me in listening to the aide in the room being in the president's presence. i can't say what was said because that was off the record. but the key takeaway is they are
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not giving up the fight. they think this thing is going to work. for all the bad news out there they are not dispe -- they are t dispirited. they are going to grind it out and relaunch in way they think will create a sustainable mix that will allow the insurance companies and people all across america to enjoy a higher level of healthcare. >> you talk about some of the people that were there. robert gibbs was there apparently as well, right? >> i don't remember seeing robert gibbs. >> you walked out of the white house according to one report report with howard feinman. >> valerie jarett was in the room. the communications director. the deputy press secretary was there, and some other aid. at one point jack lou walked in an walked into the wrong meeting.
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martha: the reason i bring that up is robert gibbs has been critical about the way this rollout happened. he said i hope the people who help the launch this thing won't continue to be parts of this process. i find it interesting he was over there yesterday at some point and i wonder if there is any sense and i wonder if you got any sense that they are talking about changing the guard pass part of trying to change and revamp' this message and get on a better p.r. side of this thing. >> that question came up about accountability. at the moment it seems the white house position is we need people who know where we have been and what we are doing to get the fix done rather than chopping off heads. and the whole energy that came out of this was if there is anger, there is anger that the president was not told earlier what was going on. because if he had been told
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earlier i guess the sense from the white house that the rollout would have been done much differently. martha: that's what has people so baffled. we have seen these memos. they had fighter wasn't going to work up until the last week. it's incongruous that the president walked out and said do you think i would have known fit wasn't going to fly i would have said it was like shopping on amazon.com? you are getting no feel that he's thinking of a shakeup? >> zero. their feeling is that was done months ahead of time and the idea was oh, we are going to be able to repair any small issue like that in the six months that come before the rollout. martha: clearly they could not and they didn't. >> the language that was used at one point someone said something
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about the original sin of this law is there was no republican support. so even in terms of trying to make changes they feel a political atmosphere is so charged right now that unlike massachusetts where you had a republican governor romney and a democratic legislature working to fix it as it came out. here any fix, anything that is being done to the law is being done in the face of tremendous opposition. martha: they are not improving that situation yesterday with this nuclear option. they arer in never going to get together now. >> martha, you are right on target. you just exploded the nuclear option. right now it's too polar eye --o polarized in this town. bill: that on the heels of another delay and obamacare. democrats changing the rules in the senate. what about that?
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bill: eight years ago republicans were just talking about changing the rules in the senate and democrats railed against it. >> the right of free and open debate is taken away from the minority parties and the millions of americans who ask us to be their voice. i fear that the already partisan atmosphere in washington will be poisoned to the point where no one will be able to agree on anything. >> this nuclear option is ultimately an example of the
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arrogance of power. it is a fundamental power grab. >> for people to suggest that you can break the rules and change the rules. it's un-american. >> the nuclear option if successful will turn the senate into a body that could have its rules broken at any time by a majority of senators unhappy with any positions taken by the minority. it begins with judicious nominations. next will be executive appointments. and then legislation. >> it doesn't serve anyone's best interests and it isn't what the patriots who founding this democracy had in mind. >> i say to my friend on the republican side you may own the field right now, but you won't own it forever. and i pray god when the democrats take back control we don't make the kind of naked
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power grab you are doing. bill: videotape is a dangerous thing, isn't it, guys? bob beblg and andrea and tear owes. -- and andrea tantaros. beckel is on drums. andrea ... >> i thought you were going to say something else. bill: not at 9:00 in the morning. >> i think democrats perceive the president to be weak and they need to help him put points on the board and get some wins with the base. they figure let's do this grab, who cares about hypocrisy. it's a 48-hour story, it will be buried by next week. i don't think this is a distraction. i think this is a lifeline to the president could save him. bill: the reporting by the white
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house, the democratic base was feeling defeated across the country and this was a lifeline to pick them up again. did you hear that? >> this has been going on for some time. my only surprise is it wasn't done sooner than this. in the history of this country. from its founding, 23 circuit court judges have been filibusters. 20 of them under barack obama. bill: you are okay with this? >> absolutely okay. the republicans have no interestn except seeing barack obama defeated. >> republicans felt the same under george bush. this will make the senate worse. i think they think they have a year to do something. but when republicans win back the senate which i think they will, this is going to bite the
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democrats. bill: byron york made an interesting points. the majority of democratic senators serving today never served in the minority. they haven't had the experience of going on the other side. the other story is what we woke up about another delay in obamacare. in 2014 the man kate for signing up won't happen until after the mid-term elections. .that matter? >> i think it's very smart. ed the pressure is on the democrats in 2014. they will use the affordable care act as a tblu a bludgeon at them. >> it doesn't matter. businesses are already start something cancel their insurance and roll their employees into the exchanges. so the white house doesn't
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really know what to do. the short term fixes will only make it worse. the employer mandate will be the most devastating thing yet to happen. bill: they are arguing the notices don't go out until december for big companies. it could be september, october. >> it shows how ignorant the administration is when it comes to how businesses work. they assume they are going to be canceling them that month? they will be cans lightning them up to election day. >> you are all running around saying 5 million people have gotten cancellation notices. i'll guarantee you january 15 million will have lost their insurance. >> i guarantee more people will have lost their insurance and have insurance. if you look at the math. the time line doesn't add up. they are going to have to delay the penalty. there is no other way for them
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to do this. bill: robert? it's friday. we still have a couple hours before there could be another delay on something else. there is still time. it's early. >> something as fundamental and important as this i suggest they delay i'd six months to a year when it started to fall apart. do you want too go back to the good old days of healthcare before you had obamacare? everybody wanted to change it including republicans. >> i don't envy bob at all. he's got a tough job defending this mess. but bill you are not going to get the healthcare law -. bill: see you at the top. martha: more on that to come. as if air travel could get any more frustrating. now imagine the person on either
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cell phones signals have been entirely alleviated now. tom whaler of the fcc says the time is right to review our outdated and restrictive rules. i look forward to working with our colleagues at the faa on these new mobile opportunities. it will have to be up to the individual airlines and right now a lot of them have skid about them. there is huge concerns weather social implications of this. the passenger talking loudly or obnoxiously about a bad date or a business deal when you are trying to get some shut eye. the fcc is bombarded with criticism. it's difficult to construct a quiet space in the confines of an airliner. martha: i love the quiet car.
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i don't mind not being able to use my cell for a couple moments. what about the airlines? any feedback from them? >> reporter: says our customers have told us that inflight voice communications would be disruptive. we continue to monitor feedback from our customers and consider should the fcc make any changes. united says our customers have expressed concern about how the use of cell phones in flight will impact their experience on board. when the. delta said no go. they won't do it. you might want to fly delta. thank you, doug. >> no quiet car on that flight. another day, another delay on obamacare.
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martha: they're on defense as the white house moves the goalpost again. they have now delayed the enrollment next year until right after the midterm elections for people to get on board with obamacare. welcome everybody, to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." on a friday. how are you doing. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning at home. morning to you, martha. funny how this works on. democrats ramming through a historic change in senate rules, taking away republican as power to stop the president's again today. president wasting no time nominating several candidates for the federal bench. senator mitch mcconnell immediately after that called the move outrageous. this. >> this is nothing more than a power grab in order to advance the obama's administration regulatory agenda, and, you know, they just broke the senate
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rules in order to exercise the power grab. so i would sum it up saying a sad day in the history of the senate. martha: wow, really not happy yesterday. meanwhile republican senator lindsey graham issued this statement. president's obama committed to protecting obamacare, his signature achievement regardless of millions damage to millions of americans and throw the judiciary into chaos if necessary. chris stirewalt joins me for example news digital politics editor and host of "power play." interesting day. after three-pronged approach. you can tell they got their heads together at white house. we're going on defense. we'll dot "nuclear option." move the deadline past midterm elections and call in favorite journalists and get the message changed and pronto. so first up, you're calling it the smash and grab in your article in terms of moving the
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date, right? >> it is not just, you're exactly right, martha, take it all together if is of a piece. it is not they're going on defense. i think it is time to go on offense. you're down in the polls. the american people don't trust the president for the first time. they think he is not trustworthy. they are very concerned about his --, millions of cancel policies. deep concerns what will happen next year. so the answer from the white house is, we can run this country with a third of america on our side, if that third of america is intensely with us. and they're going to try to increase voter intensity among democrats who remain with them and try to crash through what promises to be a brutal eight or 10 months for the implementation of this law. what they will be able to do because of changing these senate rules, yes, judiciary is very important and judges in place to help the law and keep the law in place. remember this, now the president can fire kathleen sebelius as
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health secretary and put somebody in of highs choosing. now the president can do whatever he wants at the epa the president can do all kinds of things that republicans and moderate democrats. he can with executive authority do exactly whatever he wants. martha: you're so right, chris. this is a huge moment and big game-changer for all the reasons that you just detailed. h. really you try to sort of figure out what the discussion has been in the oval office and in the west wing. they know they're in a dire situation and they need to change the scheme but it does appear they will start a hold the ball and literally try to push it through the defensive line and make it go into the touchdown zone they're hoping. so talk to me a little bit about the possibility that you just brought up. are we about to see a change of some of the players in this game? >> well, one of the reasons, and you, we talked about it before, one of the reasons that
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everybody said that kathleen sebelius was safe as health and human services secretary how on earth would you get her confirmed. that is not a problem. the president could give up, if there are five moderate democrats in the senate, give up five moderate democratic votes for her replacement and put anyone in he wants. there are 51 democrats, senate democratic conference is quite liberal. 50 votes plus vice president joe biden, the tiebreaker, they could confirm almost anybody to that position. he doesn't have to worry about it now. he can really proceed pays. he can fill up the slots in the federal judiciary so when the inevitable challenges to obamacare and, the regulation that is causing the people to lose their insurance policy and more so next year, come to the courts, they will be able to get through. martha: you're right. those will be easier. i would also not be at all surprised if we see changing faces at the white house as well and it is interesting to note that robert gibbs was there yesterday after having been very critical of the team that is
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working on this. >> yeah, you bet. martha: i put that out there. we'll see if anything comes of that, by the next couple of times that we talk. chris, good to see you. >> you bet. martha: visit our politics page. sign up for chris's daily political newsletter, fox news first. go to foxnews.com/foxnewsfirst. put your email address in there and get it in the morning like we all do. bill: republicans have not held their fire. they say democrats will live to regret this decision. republican senator john barrasso is with me this morning. sir, good morning to you. >> thanks for having me, bill. >> i want reaction on two stories, this and obamacare delay. first on changing the rules in the senate. what do you think this means for america? >> first i think it shows a sign of desperation on the part of this white house and this administration. the president's polling is at an all-time low. people think he is not trustworthy and they think he is incompetent. when you see that sort of polling, the white house is desperate to do something, they
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did this deliberately. as the last report just showed they are fairly convinced they will lose control of the senate. so they want to force things through in the next year because we're focused on the 2014 elections because the debacle health care law. millions of people who received cancellation notices. millions who can't keep their doctor and skyrocketing cost of insurance under this president's law. bill: joe biden in 2005, i pray to god when the democrats take back control of the senate we don't make the same kind of naked power grab. what does that mean now? >> well, it means that, he was he was for it before he was against it or against it before he was for it. so was barack obama. so was john kerry. this is what we see happening now. this is the sign of the desperation of this administration because, i think they're shocked at how poorly the obama health care law is working and how poorly it is being received around the country. but these are things that those
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of us who actually read the bill initially could see coming. we predicted years ago that millions would lose their insurance and now we know over five million people have received cancellations notices. we predicted people wouldn't be able to keep their doctor in spite of president's promises. now we know millions, even our seniors on medicare will not be able to keep their doctors. we know that some of the best hospitals in the world are not going to be in the exchanges or have very limited coverage. we're talking about some of the best pediatric hospitals in the country. seattle, st. louse, houston. we know cedars-sinai in california, the mayo clinic, many of them are excluded from most of the policies in the obama health care law. the president and the white house are reeling as they should be because of what they have done to the american people and, and there's a sense of both anxiety and anger all across the country right now. bill: let me point you back to the politics of "the nuclear
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option" decision. very interesting here, you say they believe they will lose the senate next november because along with that you have yet another delay of obamacare. the enrollment sign-up period is delayed past the november midterm election. does that surprise you? >> it is a cynical, political ploy by the administration to hide the additional sticker shock, the increased costs of insurance that are going to come next year. so for them to delay from a couple weeks before the election to a couple of weeks after the election, to me is just a naked effort, people will see right through this administration trying to hide. bill: do you think it is the cost that they're afraid of? >> well, i believe they are afraid of the costs of insurance which is going up under the health care law. bill, let's face it. the young, healthy people are not going to sign up on this website or pay more for insurance.
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many of them don't believe they need or want or will ever use or can afford. so the older, sicker, people, who are signing up, for the health care law are going to result in higher costs in next year's premiums. that is what this administration is trying to hide until after the 2014 elections. bill: senator, thank you. want to get you on record for both of those topics. appreciate your time from the hill today. john barrasso. >> thanks for having me, bill. bill: republican from wyoming there in d.c. nine minces past. we're taking at viewers at home too, right, martha? martha: we are. they have been tweeting us throughout the show. the question is, will democrats end up regretting this move? bill: when majority means mob rule, 52% vote to all all money and rights from the 48%. i have zero respect for senator reid. martha: here is another one. dems will regret this world and world as we know it shifted under our feet. a very bad move for democracy. bill: this with "the nuclear
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option", rather the state, nor the senate nor the white house represent all americans anymore. the minority lost its voice with that vote. martha: not happy. about this one. keep sending those tweets to us, @marthamaccallum, @billhemmer. and we will be reading them throughout the show. bill: you got it. 10 minutes past the hour. as we move on a change of heart when it comes to the term obamacare. remember this one? >> we passed obamacare, yeah, i like the term, we passed it. bill: all right. a broken website later and president's poll numbers at all-time low and why that word is now vanishing from use, hmmm? martha: two teenage girls accused of bullying this girl who was their friend at one time to death. we will speak live with one of the girls who is going to be here with her attorney, jose baez. bill: plus remembering the moment today, 50 years since the assassination of president john f. kennedy. in a moment the effect of that
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later. welcome back, everybody. want to show you the moment before the world changed here in america. take you down to dallas, texas. two hours from now we'll get into the ceremony live from dallas, texas. we show you on the map behind us in dealey plaza. there are ceremonies planned and prepared throughout the day today. the main events start going around 11:00 central time, noon eastern time here in, on the east coast. this is the parade route. it was west on main. it was north on houston. it was west on elm street for president kennedy that day, in the limousine. this is the book depository building. in this building up there on the sixth floor, it is seven floors in height but the sixth floor corner window is where lee harvey oswald sat on his perch and fired his shots that morning. advance it one time from the ground level now. this would be looking out past elm street towards the freeway. this is the north route on houston. this would be the western route
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here on elm. up here again in the sixth floor window where lee harvey oswald was that day. wow, what a day. so many too have been reaching out to us and sharing some of their thoughts where they were that day. it is like 9/11 for our generation. it's a moment we'll never forget. certainly this is a moment for the generation prior, that they will never forget as well. martha: as a nation and as a soul of a nation there are those moment that is are indelible in the experience of all of us and as a country and our next guest is a journalist who covered the young president, john f. kennedy, from america, it was a time of hope. it was also known as a brief shining moment that was here in camelot. as it was known at the time. marvin kalb, joins me now, fox news contributor, former moderator of "meet the press." marvin, good to have you with us on this very significant day. >> thank you. martha: tell me a little bit where you were, what your
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experience, what you remember about that day? >> i remember immediately i was at the state department trying to do a radio spot, having to do with vietnam. and the minute i got connected to the studio i heard the announcementthat the president had been shot. something inside me said, he was already dead. i didn't know that. and i decided that rather than put myself in a position of having to broadcast immediately, i did something which was totally unprofessional. i walked around the state department, the whole block, knowing that in that period of time i could compose myself and then be ready to do my job but i have a feeling millions probably felt the same way. martha: it, you know, it is hard to imagine the devastation that crept across the country because they were really sort of embodying the youthful spirit of a country. >> exactly. martha: beautiful president, attractive family. his wife, everybody, was so caught up in that moment. i remember, my parents talking
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about it over the years and my mother getting tears in her eyes talking about it when i was a child. >> yeah. martha: you could tell for her and so many people of her generation, the first catholic president which was significant to many people as well at the time but you know i'm curious as a journalist who has covered someplaces in the world, what started to tick through your brain as possibilities of who might have done this, marvin? >> well one of the things that we found out very quickly which is really remarkable, the minute they picked up lee harvey oswald, his biography flashed across the screen. the man spent 2 1/2 years in the soviet union. why? he was very sympathetic to castro's cuba. he proclaimed himself to be marxist, a communist. although he would make the distinction every now and then. you had to think as a reporter, what was the connection here? was there a conspiracy? were the russians, were the communists trying to get act the kennedy's victory in a sense a
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year before during the cuban missile crisis? what was going on here? there was a shock that ran through the entire system because we did not know who was behind it. and the whole idea right now that only one person in his own internal madness could do this kind of thing was very hard to accept then and i must say, to you, it remains difficult, even to this day. martha: do you believe that he acted alone? >> well, all of the evidence that has been confirmed says yes. lee harvey oswald acted alone but he acted in an environment in which he was obviously strongly influenced by pro-castro supporters. he would dem, demonstrate in new orle a chance to do that, to show his sympathy. he would also demonstrate against castro. he was a very strange social
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misfit and he could have been exploited by people. was it the mafia that was very angry at kennedy? wanted to get back at him? used jack ruby who dealt with the mafia in order to kill oswald so he would never talk about what was going on? all of these things are in your mind, they have to be but the evidence is not there conclusively. martha: for so many it strains credulity you could have one man act alone and carry out that mad exact as you called it. >> exactly. martha: then another one act alone purely on the volition he wanted to kill the man who did that. so many questions remain today. marvin, thank you very much for being with us today and sharing what you remember from that day. thank you, marvin. >> thank you, martha. bill: a bit later, reminder, live coverage from dealey plaza, live here on fox. a house destroyed in an instant. surveillance video now uncovered that shows how powerful a
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martha: amazing images from surveillance video shows the power of those tornadoes last sunday in illinois. look at the house on the left side of your screen. look at this. then you don't. reduced to rubble as the tornado tore through on its path. watch again, the pictures were captured pro from a gas station and dairy queen in the town of diamond. and then it was gone. fortunately nobody was gone home in the house. bill: concerns that al qaeda is setting up a home base, a new
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home base in africa. the latest mall attack in kenya saying the terror network growing influence in that part of the world. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge in touch with her sources live in d.c. what are we learning, catherine? >> reporter: good morning, bill. president obama said late october al qaeda's leadership is in decline. his administration at the same time placed two al qaeda affiliates on the state department list of terrorist organizations. both of these groups are in africa. they include, translate as western education is sin, a group responsible for vicious attacks like this one in northeastern nigeria that killed 80 people. the group wants to establish an islamic state with the application of strict islamic law. conclusion of leading experts testifying before congress yesterday, libya, once seen as a possible centerpiece for the administration's foreign policy, is now overrun by some 300 militias, many with extremist ties. >> can the army really sustain
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itself? the army does not match the militias in terms of manpower or fire power. >> libya is not one big mess. libya is bunch of little messes that are not very related. >> so in simple terms what we're seeing in north africa, especially places like libya, you have a weak central government. you have in libya's case the existence of wmd, chemical weapons and then you have the rise of the these extremist groups as well, bill. bill: it is a dangerous, volatile combination. thank you, catherine herridge in washington on that. martha? martha: at one point the president was very comfortable with the word obamacare. he said he kind of liked it until the law got rolling. why that word has now start toddies appear from the president's vocabulary. bill: a florida teenager speaking out after she was accused of bullying another girl to death. we'll talk live with her and the sheriff who filed the charges. >> so parents, you be responsible so that you discipline your children and we don't have to.
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in your hands where they belong. >> the term isn't getting much love anymore. president obama avoiding the word he embraced. here he is a week later: >> there is no question the rollout on the affordable care act was tougher than expected. a lot of state legislative expanded medicare because of the affordable care act. >> are you running away from the phrase is our question now? good morning to you. you like it, you don't? it was in and now it is out? >> i think it comes down to this simple idea: if you think it is awesome, you want your name on it. if it turns out it isn't, you
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don't. >> you have no doubt this is a deliberate decision to move away from the phrase. >> i think almost certain it is. the president doesn't want his name here it because it didn't turn out well. you remember at the beginning of the debate when republicans and critics called it obamacare they decided that was pejoritive and then they decided to implement it. it is his legacy law. >> i am reading from political. healthcare.gov is almost enti entirely scrubbed of obamacare. and health exchanges don't use
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the term obamacare at all. so i guess it isn't coming back. sgr >> obama is trying to get his name off it because the program is bad and democrats are trying to get his name off it because his approval ratings it so low. the thing is, when it comes to to re-branding and people are realizing it isn't too affordable. >> you can see all of the political decisions in the works. and republicans are making the argument that democrats believe they can not win the senate next year. now you have a decision to delay enrollment until after the mid- term election. >> i think almost every decision
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on obamacare when it comes to implementation. they had to go october1st, they couldn't for for help, they held off on giving the states the information bah because they were afraid voters would have been turned off. pushing it back after every election isn't going to work. >> the thinking is that the employee or cancelations, which there could be tens of millions, would be delayed until after the election, but big companies plan before that.
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juan williams remarked at how, i don't think he used the word desperate, but how they feel it is important to reach out to their base that say rather disspirdi dispirited. >> it would be hard to sit across from the president and say how did you let this happen. he is to blame for this because he is part of the process and didn't make sure it because going to be implemented properly. i am not sure the american people will buy every time they put it off until election. >> it is 11 a.m. east coast time and there is plenty of time to an announce another delay before the weekend. >> we will probably see many. >> good to see you, mk.
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>> john boehner trying to sign up using the washington, d.c. exchange. but he suffered frustrating delays along the way. and he was forced to restart several times. he posted, kept at it, called the help line, they called back a few hours later and after restarting the process on the website two more times, i just heard from the health link that i have been successfully enrolled. >> he was live tweeting during the process. and then a spokesperson came out and said we have done it. but the speaker is on board. >> i bet he pushed the button past. charges have been dropped against two girls who were accused of bullying their friend
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to death. in minutes you will get all sides of the story, and one of the accused girls is live and we will talk with the sheriff who brought the charges. >> bullying is a national epidemic. now we have a defense attorney saying he should not have done that. there is a 12-year-old dead child that was bullied. child that was bullied. homemade soup! yeah... [ male announcer ] campbell's homestyle soup with farm grown veggies. just like yours. huh. [ male announcer ] and roasted white meat chicken. just like yours. con troatroversy and
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>> well the family of one of the two girls accused of bullying a classmate to the point of suicide is speaking out after charges against the two girls were dropped. 13-year-old kaitlyn roman have been accused of bullying the 12-year-old online and in person. and rebecca jumped to her death from this water tower.
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felony stalking charges were given to the girls. and one month after this hap happen happened, the charges have been dropped but the saga isn't over. he are joined by kaitlyn, her mom, and their attorney. >> you were friend with her initially? >> yes, i was. >> what happened when you started realizing that all of this was going on? it was a group of 15 kids ganging up on her. what was your response? >> i stayed her friend at first and that is when i stopped being her friend; i was pressured into it. >> how do you feel about that given what happened? there are a lot of children and
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i have children your age and they are afraid to speak out. there is a lot of pressure isn't there? >> they push you to do things you don't want to do. >> i want to pull up a quote from rebecca's mom's attorney and her mother would appreciate a heart felt apology from the girls who bullied her child. did you ever apologize to your former friends's mom about this? >> i did go to her house and tell her i was sorry for her loss, but i don't think i bullied her. >> when you listen to rebecca's mom talk about how she went to the school and they got nowhere and told her her daughter should
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tou toughen up. they took her to another school. what do you think when you hear about what the mother was up against? >> i feel like the child had problems of their own and rebecca needed to be moved from the school. it wasn't just one kid. >> were you aware this is going on? these kids are on this stuff all of the time and they know when someone is in trouble and pebei bullied. >> everyone was aware there was a problem, but no one knew how to stop the problem. >> did you ever go to your daughter and say this is wrong? you need to step in. >> i don't think it was to the extent of what people are saying it was. i think that this is blowing up to way more than what it was
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supposed to do. she moved to another school because she wasn't involved in the clique and that is what happens. >> i get it. but, i think there is all this bullying stuff that goes in in terms of training. did you have bully sessions at school? >> yes. >> and what was your reaction when you felt like i am in the middle of this, and it is happening here, too? did you feel that way? >> i still feel that bullying needs to stop because words do hurt and it takes a big piece of someone. >> it sure does. i can only imagine what this has been like at your school and seeing what ended up happening.
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jose, we saw the things posted -- drink bleach and die, kill yourself -- and you say your client never posted anything like that? >> kaitlyn didn't do anything like that. lumping these children together is a huge mistake. i want to make clear these are two different individuals and they should be held accountable for their individual actions. none of the statements were attributed to kaitlyn. i want night on o'reilly i want to play what he said and get your reaction. >> we said all along we were not looking to lock the door and throw away the key and keep the kids in jail. we were looking for counseling.
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we wanted them to stay in the juvenile system. one child was diverted and jose bias has his child in intervention and takes her to new york and puts her face and name on the stations. she bullied and violated the law and that is why we charged her. >> i think he has a hard problem with one the truth and reality. if she bullied rebecca why did the prosecutor fail and refuse to file charges? >> he is saying that is procedure because they were diverted and not going through counseling you that is the process that causes the charges to be dropped. if you go into the counseling that is it instead of charges. >> that is a lie.
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the only diversion going on is his diversion of truth. there was 27,000 pages of postings and all of the evidence he claimed he had. we had put her in counseling because this was a fragile child before this case began. kaitlyn was a victim herself of bullying and then having a local sheriff, who everyone fears in the town, and they say the most dangerous place is between the sheriff and the camera. >> we will talk to him in just a minute. thank you. i wish you well. thank you, mitchell, and jose for being here as well. >> thank you >> fair and balanced. that is one side of the story. and we are about to hear the
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>> the sheriff at the center of the case is here with me. sheriff brady is my guess. the attorney says you are a liar in this. what do you say? >> good defense attorneys say nothing, deny everything and raise counter claims. he has forgotten about this girl who was bullied and beat up by kaitlyn and now we have what we have. we did a thorough and complete
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investigation and established a strong case of probably cause and we charged them with third-degree felony aggravated stalking because of the stage of the victim. our goal was to make sure they received counseling. they were not charged with the murder of rebecca. they were charged with stalking and tormenting her and we have a lot of evidence to prove that. >> he is saying there is no evidence. i understand you would disagree with that. here is where i get confused. you came out publically against these children, drew a lot of attention to it, and why make the about face and not prosecute? >> we have not made an about face at all. in the state of florida, the
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juvenile system is totally separate from the adult court system. and more often than not we don't take kids to juvenile court. we can charge them with a petition and take them to court, but our goal was to obtain counseling and stop the bullying and harassing and that is what we did. we are pleased with the outcome of this case. but the criminal procedure is once you create a diversion, you drop the criminal charges >> could you have gotten the same result without putting the faces and the names of these two young girls public? >> we make arrest when there is probably cause for felonies committed. if the same circumstances presented today we would arrest again. and this is all about doing what
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is right for the victim and stopping the conduct. >> but just last night you said she bullied and violated the law. >> she did. >> if you believe that why is the arrest going away? >> because the state prosecutes beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt. had we taken the kids two juvenile court we would have gotten the same outcome. we never wanted to lock these kids up. we wanted counseling and appao y apology. and she apologized in person and we have text where kaitlyn admitted to bullying and beating up our victim who ultimately jumped to her death.
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>> what do you think parents -- or what did you learn from this? it is a struggle to raise kids. every generation has a different set of challenges and this one is different that know the last. what do you think people need to understand? >> we want everyone to know bullying shouldn't be a law enforcement issue. this went beyond that to stalking. but it all starts at home. parents need to pay attention to what kids are doing on electronic devices and need to make sure they are not bullying kids in person. as a result, if parents take responsibility, this won't happen again. >> thank you for your time, sheriff. live in tampa florida with us today. >> i think there is a temptation on the part of many parents to say not my kid. and i think until we get to the
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point where we are willing to say my child is wrong. this sheriff never wanted to throw the children in jail. he wanted to make a point. and that is why the story got attention because we do need a . >> our intention was to give you both sides today and that is what we did. >> today is a day that the nation pauses to remember a day that changed the course of american history. the assassination of john f. kennedy. we are continuing live coverage. keep it here. keep it here.
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france. the club was closed and servicemen had meals paid by patrons. walter cronkite appeared with the news. so sad. martha: continuing coverage throughout the day. noon is the big hour for these memories in dealey plaza. "happening now" starts right now. we'll see you back here tomorrow, everybody. jon: it is 11:00 a.m. on the east coast and we begin with this fox news alert. remembering a very dark day in american history. 50 years ago today president john f. kennedy was shot and killed as his motorcade drove through the streets of dallas, texas. you're looking live at dealey plaza there in dallas where a solemn ceremony is to begin over an hour from now. the eternal flame burning on the gravesite of president john f. kennedy at arlington national cemetery. in the white house the flag flies at half-staff
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